1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: We appreciate all of you hanging out with us fantastic 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Wednesday across the country. Encourage you to download the podcast. 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,480 Speaker 1: Make sure you don't miss a single moment. As we 6 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: are speaking to you right now, Buck, I was just 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: pulled up watching during commercial break there is a Netflix 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: employee protest. The tons of employees have walked out of 9 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: Netflix to protest the fact the audacity that they would 10 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: have a comedian in Dave Chappelle making jokes that might 11 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: be offensive to the transgender community. And I was watching 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: some of the protest speakers and leave me to say this. 13 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: We have got to have some of that audio for 14 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,599 Speaker 1: tomorrow's show because it is goldenly insane. But we are 15 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:55,400 Speaker 1: joined now by Elbridge Colby. He's the co founder and 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: principle of the Marathon Initiative, and formerly he was a 17 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: US Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Force Strategy and Force Deployment. 18 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 1: He's the author of the Strategy of Denial American Defense 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: in an Age of Great Power Conflict, which just came 20 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: out last month and Elbridge appreciate you joining us. We 21 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: want to talk to you about this situation with China 22 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: right now, and I'm going to ask you the big 23 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: picture question right now, as we confront a major issue 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: in Taiwan. If China decides to invade Taiwan, what should 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: the United States do? What do you think the United 26 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: States would do? Well? First off, it's great to be 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 1: on guys, many thanks for the invitation, thrilled to be here. 28 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: I think to get to it, the answer is, yes, 29 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: we should defend them. It's in our interests. It's not 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: open and shut. But the key here is to have 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: our military focus on it and to be ready. And 32 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: we're not there right now, but Taiwan is critical for 33 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,280 Speaker 1: our position in Asia. And look, Asia's the world's most 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: important market and China's the other world superpower. If China 35 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: dominates Asia, trust me, they will be using their power 36 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: to change our lives at home. What would we do? 37 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the Biden administration would do. They've 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,800 Speaker 1: talked a pretty big game, so that's one signal. But 39 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, who knows, right, 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: But I do think that the pressure on the Biden 41 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: administration be compelling, would probably be almost irresistible. But the 42 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: issue is if China can wrap Taiwan up in a 43 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,119 Speaker 1: couple of days or weeks, it may be too late. 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: So we need to be ready and prepared with the idea. Ultimately, 45 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 1: if the turning us of avoiding God forbid of major 46 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: war bridge it's buck I want to know why you 47 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: think China has been making such aggressive noises about Taiwan recently. 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: I mean, what is it about this moment in time? 49 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: Certainly that the Biden administration plays a role in all this, 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 1: but are there other factors too? And you know how 51 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: close are we? I mean, I know there's the deaf 52 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: con scale for nuclear war, right, I mean, if we 53 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,239 Speaker 1: had a Deacon scale for Taiwan, where would you put 54 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: us in terms of Chinese aggression and the possibility of 55 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party deciding that it's go time. Well, thanks, 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: Bucket's great to talk to you again. I mean, I 57 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: think the Deacon level should be high, and I mean 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: I'm not talking necessarily tomorrow, although it might be, but 59 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: I think the next couple of years. But if we're 60 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: going to be able to change things, then we've got 61 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: to start moving dramatically right now, and the key what 62 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: are they doing? I don't exactly know. I actually do 63 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: think that their best option at the end of the 64 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: day is to go big, go bigger, go home, because 65 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: they're never going to convince the people on Taiwan to 66 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 1: live under the rule of the suppressors of Hong Kong. Right, 67 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: They're not going to be able to kind of hoodwink 68 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: for magic trick them out of their freedom. Is what 69 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna do, if they're really serious about it, which 70 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 1: I think they are, is they're gonna go big and 71 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna take it, and they're gonna dare us to 72 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: come and try to reverse the trends. And given the 73 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: military balance in the theater, we might not have a 74 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: good option. I could see us backing down. And I 75 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: mean I think it's it is possible us in our 76 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: allies God forbids. What are the indicators. I mean, look, 77 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: they've got the will, right, I mean, Shijinping hasn't been 78 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: shy about the Chinese have always said that they want 79 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 1: to take Taiwan. Also, it's a great way to humiliate us, right, 80 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: I mean, mccars are called Taiwan the Unsinkable aircraft carriers 81 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: right there in the middle of our strategic position. If Taiwan, 82 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: if China could take Taiwan, it would be a massive 83 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,160 Speaker 1: blow to our credibility. And I'm not somebody who thinks 84 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: that everything we do around the world is always connected 85 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: that we can't get out of any commitment to the contrary. 86 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: But look, if you're Japan or the Philippines or Vietnam, 87 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna be looking at Taiwan, right Yeah, Well, why, 88 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean bridge, why should Americans honestly care all that 89 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: much to the point of possibly even militarily defending this 90 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: Island's let's be honest, very far away, and not a 91 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: lot of Americans spend much time thinking about that is 92 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: the right question. It's a question that we need to answer, 93 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 1: and in fact, the question that was hanging over my book. 94 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: The issue is is that this is about Asia. This 95 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: is about who dominates Asia and whether China dominates Asia. 96 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: We're not looking to dominate Asia, We're looking to stop 97 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: them from doing it because think of the reality if 98 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:48,159 Speaker 1: China's in a position where everybody in Asia fifty percent 99 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: or more of global GDP, all the world beating companies, 100 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 1: all the regulation is set there they are going to 101 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: be able to do to us what you know, what 102 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: they're doing to the Australians or what they do to 103 00:04:56,920 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: their own people. I mean, the example I think of 104 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 1: Buck is we all have concerns about the social media companies, 105 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: but the premise of our debate in this country is 106 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: that we will be able to change it if we 107 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: get the right political coalition. But if the Chinese dominant Asia, 108 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: we won't have that ability. We'll have to go to 109 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: Beijing and we won't have much of a chance. And 110 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: Taiwan is critical to have that overall issue resolves because 111 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: the people in Japan. I don't really I care about 112 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: the American people in their interests, and I don't want 113 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: to fight a major reward. But at the end of 114 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 1: the day, I don't want Americans to have to live 115 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: bending the need to the regulators or the Communist party 116 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: in China. We're talking to Bridge Colby, co founder principle 117 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: the Marathon Initiative. All right, So Buck asked a good 118 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: question about why we should care about Taiwan. Here's a 119 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 1: bigger question too, in the result of Joe Biden being 120 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 1: in office, how much does our weakness in Afghanistan in 121 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: your mind, factor into how China makes a determination upon Taiwan. 122 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: In other words, is the way in which we departed 123 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: Afghanistan is the low approval rating of Joe Biden for 124 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: foreign affairs? Does that factor into the calculus for China 125 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: as they try to determine what to do with Taiwan. 126 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the answer is yes. I mean, 127 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: I supported the withdrawal from Afghanist I think it was 128 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: the right decision. I mean President Trump was going in 129 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: that direction. Look, we need to focus on Asia, that's 130 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: the big problem. We need to get rid of other 131 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: commitments like Afghanistan. We need to reduce in Europe and elsewhere. 132 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: But how you do it is critical. And it was 133 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: clear that we could have done better here. I mean, 134 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: we all pay three more than three percent of our 135 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: income to the national security state buck you worked and see, 136 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean, we deserve better than that. And I think 137 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: what could happen is that the Chinese could assess these 138 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: guys can't tie their shoes straight, and at the end 139 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: of the day, they're they're not going to be ready 140 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: to stand up. I mean, I think one of the 141 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: things that the Trump administration did right was in trying 142 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: in some ways to reduce in the Middle East. There 143 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: was also a face shot to a run which said, 144 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:46,840 Speaker 1: don't think that we can be toyed. I don't think 145 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: that we can be pushed around. Yes, we're pulling back 146 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: because we got bigger problems, but we are prepared to 147 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: go to go harsh. And I think that's probably the question. 148 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,919 Speaker 1: I think that's one thing that people really underestimate is 149 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: that they A lot of people just assume that Chinese 150 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: won't do that, But I mean, what about the Chinese 151 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: comunist leadership, especially joining gives people the confidence that he's 152 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: not going to pull the trigger if he thinks it's 153 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: going to be advantageous for him. We're speaking of Bridge Colby, 154 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: who's the co founder and principle of the Marathon Initiative. 155 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: He's the author of the Strategy of Denial American defense 156 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: at an age of great power conflict. What is the 157 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: I mean, to the degree you can know this, I 158 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: know you're working the Trump administration at the Pentagon bridge, 159 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: But what is the Biden vision and I mean his 160 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: foreign policy team around him? What is the vision of 161 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: how we should be dealing with China? And how does 162 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: it differ from the Trump team. Yeah. I think there 163 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: was an article in the New York Times a good 164 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: reflection of the Biden administration thinking by David Sanger that 165 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: I think they are actually I think or at least 166 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: important segments to the administration. They are trying to focus 167 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: on China, but their view is that it's almost like 168 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of weird almost. It's like they talk about it, 169 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: We're going to compete hard on the playing field about 170 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: technology or economics, or military signaling or the military build up, 171 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: but then we're going to keep that in check, and 172 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: we're going to cooperate on climate and so forth. And 173 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: at the same time, the Biden team is like, well, 174 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: it's all going, you know, we're gonna get together with 175 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: our European allizing, We're going to stand up in the 176 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: UN Security Council and the G seven and NATO and 177 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: what have you. And I think the fundamental problem here 178 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: is that it underestimates the importance of real hard power 179 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: that the Chinese have been investing in and is going 180 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: to be increasingly attracted to them. So what I'm worried 181 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: about urgently is that the Biden team is focusing on 182 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: like this economic condition, you know, quote unquote competing international 183 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: institutions like the UN. But at the end of the day, 184 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: Mauzadong had one thing, right, power comes out of the 185 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: barrel of a gun. If the Chinese can force Asia 186 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: to kind of you know, queue their line and tow 187 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 1: their line, then it doesn't matter what happens in the 188 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: WTO or the UN or the WHO. Right. And so 189 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: this is what I'm concerned about, and it's different than 190 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: the Trump administration. I think the Trump administration understood correctly, 191 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:53,840 Speaker 1: and I mean I'm generalizing, but that we needed to 192 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: go through a really confrontational period to reset right. For 193 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: twenty years, we'd had a screwed up policy of agement 194 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: that was naive. John Meherzheimer as an excellent piece on 195 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,320 Speaker 1: this in the current issue of Corgner Affairs. I'd recommended 196 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: to your audience. We'd had this screwed up policy. Nobody 197 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,200 Speaker 1: trusted us to take a firm line against China, and 198 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: the Chinese didn't believe that we would take a firm 199 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: and enduring lining againt China. And what the Trump administration, 200 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: President Trump himself did is stood strong poked the Chinese 201 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: in the eye. But I think the long term goal 202 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: there was yet to build up as a position of 203 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: strength with our allies, with our military forces, et cetera. 204 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 1: But ultimately to be Yeah, this resident was right to 205 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: be able to cut a deal. Now what that deal 206 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: looked like down the line. It wouldn't mean cutting our 207 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: allies loose or something like that, but it would mean, like, 208 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: we're not going to try to turn them in. You know, 209 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: it's not the American people's responsibility to turn the China 210 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: into democracy. We might wish for that, but that's not 211 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: our job here. That's not what this is really about. 212 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: This is making sure that China does not dominate our 213 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: future because it dominates the world's largest market. What does 214 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: an invasion of Taiwan look like and how rapidly would 215 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: it transpire? How long would we have I know we've 216 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: got troops in Asia. How long would we have to react? 217 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: How quickly would Taiwan fall? In your mind, what is 218 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: the process under which a Chinese invasion would look like 219 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,680 Speaker 1: and what would the timeframe be for American response? Well, 220 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: I think it's a lot more urgent and short than 221 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,880 Speaker 1: people appreciate. And part of that is because there's a 222 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: presumption that China will kind of test or work its 223 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: way up through what's often called the gray zone by 224 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: trying to kind of con Taiwan into giving up. But 225 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: I think the Chinese recognized that's not going to work. 226 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: Nobody in their right mind on Taiwan that wants to 227 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: turn into Hong Kong right, let alone Shenzhen or Shanghai. 228 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: So if China knows that and those Taiwan's never going 229 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: to come over, their incentive actually is just to go 230 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: big and resolve it quickly, and what's often called a 231 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: fet to complete right and to move as quickly as 232 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: possible before the Americans have the chance to mobilize our 233 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: military forces, go through our political process, etc. Just wrap 234 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: it up and create a much more difficult position. You know, fundamentally, 235 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: it's usually easier to defend an island than to retake it, right, 236 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: So if we have to retake Taiwan, that's terrible, terrible, 237 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: Whereas defending Taiwan that's something we can we can do 238 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: much more feasibly. To China knows that. So I think 239 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: part of what they're doing, buck to get back to 240 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,520 Speaker 1: your question, is I think they're trying to desensitize us. 241 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: If you look at examples of surprise in the modern world, well, 242 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: they're often not because something came out of really nowhere, 243 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: but because we kind of like discount it. So if 244 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: you look at the nineteen seventy three war, the Arabs 245 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: very carefully dulled American and Israeli intelligence to understand what 246 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: the Arabs were about to do, and that ultimately worked 247 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: quite effectively for the Israelis came out on top, fortunately, 248 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,559 Speaker 1: but but it worked in terms of surprise. I think 249 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: that's what they maybe try to do. So we could 250 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: wake up one morning and it could be a matter 251 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: of a couple of days. And so what I'm really 252 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: trying to do by pounting the drum is get us 253 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: ahead of the problem. 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Yes, we can start out every segment with 310 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 1: this is interesting because obviously that's why we're telling people 311 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: about it. But Dave Chappelle's Now, I'm gonna say this, 312 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: and I don't want to get into a cultural critic 313 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: thing here, but this was not his best I'm just 314 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: gonna say this is not as funny as ten. It 315 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: was okay, there were some funny moments, there were some 316 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: kind of moments, but he had long a long commentary 317 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 1: about the trans community specifically, so it's within the LGBTQ 318 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: plus world, but the trans community, and there there are 319 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: a lot of people on the left and from the 320 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 1: the LGBTQ plus plus community and the trans community that 321 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: are very angry about this. And there's now a Netflix 322 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: employee walkout underway today in Los Angeles because they say 323 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: that it was Dave Chappelle's comments were transphobic and that 324 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: it it is um putting people in danger and the 325 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: employee demand. They've released a list of demands, which of 326 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: course all terrorists right. They're they're releasing a list of demands. 327 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: They want three areas, content, investment, employee relations, in safety, 328 00:15:55,840 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: and harm reduction. They want more investing in tre ends 329 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: and non binary talent and content, along with involving more 330 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: input from marginalized communities around potentially harmful content at Netflix. 331 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: Netflix is woke, It will not go broke, but they 332 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: got a problem on their hands. Ted Sarandos, who is 333 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,000 Speaker 1: one of the co chief executive officers of Netflix, came 334 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: out and apologized for not being sensitive enough in his 335 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: initial comments about the Dave Chappelle special. And here's why 336 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 1: I think this matters. You might be out there, you 337 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: might say, he, I don't care about Netflix comedians. It 338 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: matters because as who gets canceled changes, the overall power 339 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: of cancel culture declines because it starts to feed on itself. 340 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: This is what happens with all revolutions. Eventually, they end 341 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: up guillotining their true believers. Remember Robespierre got guillotine during 342 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: the French Revolution. Because the purity contest starts to pit 343 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: idiologus against each other. And Trump was, in their mind 344 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 1: of the war universe, the great Satan who they could 345 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: a lie against. Without Trump, they don't have any easy foil, 346 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: and so they're starting to turn internal. So Buck, if 347 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: they cancel a black comedian because his jokes are not 348 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: considered to be acceptable, a lot of black people who 349 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: are fans of Dave Chappelle, and white and Asian and 350 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:23,080 Speaker 1: Hispanic fans too, are going to say, wait a moment. 351 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: They're starting to turn on what would otherwise be a 352 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: member of their coalition. Can I tell you where I 353 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 1: see this going. This is going to turn into Netflix 354 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: will make concessions to the trans demands. I didn't mean 355 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: for that to rhyme, but it did trans demands here, 356 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: and that will be the way they They'll say, oh, well, 357 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:44,679 Speaker 1: we'll address it, we'll address the concern. But they're not 358 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: pulling down the Chappelle special. They're not going to pull 359 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: it off their streaming service. It's not going to happen 360 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: because you have, as you point out, a very successful 361 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: black comedian, and there are sensitivities on the left around 362 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: what that would mean as well. So he's I don't 363 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: think he's gonna get canceled normally special, but you will 364 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: see a whole lot more you know Netflix specials, in series, 365 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: scripted series about you know, non binary characters, etc. We're 366 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: pet lovers here on this program. During the height of 367 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: the pandemic, pets were a constant companion. I took my 368 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 1: parents French bulldog to Lula for the entirety of the 369 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 1: pandemic for the first year of it, I should say, 370 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: and it was incredible. But I want her to be 371 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 1: as healthy as possible. That's why we feed her Rough Greens. 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This is from 411 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: mother Jones website that Joe Mansion has told Democrats that 412 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: he is considering leaving the party and has an exit 413 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: plan in place. Now. Mansion is saying this in the 414 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: context of negotiation that is ongoing about exactly how much 415 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: this budget is going to cost. According to this article, 416 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: he has let the White House know that he will 417 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: not support any higher than one point seven five trillion 418 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 1: dollars in the budget. That's still a lot of money, 419 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:24,359 Speaker 1: but it's half of the reported price tag that Democrats wanted, 420 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: and he has said one seven five is his top 421 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: number and that if the Democrats reject it. Here's what 422 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: he would do. This is according to Mother Jones. Now 423 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: Mansion has come out and denied it. Mansion says he 424 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: would send a letter to Chuck Schumer announcing that he 425 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: was pulling himself out of Democratic leadership in the Senate. 426 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: If that did not get his results after another week, 427 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: he would change his voter registration from Democrat to independent. 428 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: The question then would be whether or not Mansion would 429 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: cauc us with the Democrats or the Republicans. It's worth mentioning. 430 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: Sunday New York Times had a big article saying that 431 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: Kursten Cinema from Arizona, who was also among the most 432 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: moderate of the Democrats, has also contemplated in some way 433 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: being an independent, and that maybe that would be a 434 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: better fit for her. So, Buck, when you see this story, 435 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,080 Speaker 1: and obviously we saw, was it Jim Jeffords I think 436 00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: who switched his party affiliation and changed the overall makeup 437 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,160 Speaker 1: of the Senate back in the day he flipped from 438 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: Republicans to Democrats right and became an independent, but caucused 439 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: with Democrats and changed the control of that chamber. Do 440 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: you buy into the idea that Mansion potentially could become 441 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,200 Speaker 1: an independent and leave the Democratic Party or is this 442 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: just a negotiating point. It feels so hard to separate 443 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: the leverage that he gets even from this flow. Of 444 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: course he denies, Oh no, no no, no, he denies it 445 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: right away, right, But this is a pre detailed article, 446 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,359 Speaker 1: I supposedly breaking down delusion making the Democrat Party is 447 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: a party of progressive authoritarians. I mean, that's really the chest. 448 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I I threw around the term commie sometimes 449 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 1: that's their more revolutionary vanguard. That's more the squad at AOC. 450 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: And you know, there's a there's a communist vibe that 451 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: comes from some of the more more extreme Democrats these days, 452 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: and I think it's filtering into their policies. But does 453 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: Joe Manchin really have a home in today's Democrat Party 454 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: When you look at it, it actually would make sense 455 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: for him to be an independent given these realities. Also 456 00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 1: the fact that, I mean West Virginia is a quite 457 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: red state and that the reddest state supporting Trump in 458 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: twenty twenty Wyoming. Wow, it's West Virginia. I think it 459 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: was West Virginia because will you get a fact check 460 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 1: on that during the commercial break? But I mean it's 461 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: very rest of the point. And so you've got this 462 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: Democrat senator from a very very red state. And remember, 463 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, he was a very important vote just a 464 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,439 Speaker 1: few years ago when it came to or you know, 465 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 1: very important voice and vote for confirmation when it came 466 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 1: to Brett Kavanaugh. And that's situation, right, and he realized 467 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: West Virginia did not believe the Kavanaugh smears as a state, 468 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: that the people West Virginia. So that was a wise 469 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: move and the right move for him. Here's the problem 470 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: I think the Democrats have. They put forward this three 471 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: point five train, and I remember it's it's really more 472 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 1: than that. I mean, when people actually look at the numbers, 473 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 1: at three point five trillion plus a trillion an infrastructure, 474 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: so when you look at the total spending package, it 475 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: was massive, yes, and it put this in perspective the 476 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: Obama administration, the Obama administration spending spree that ignited the 477 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: Tea Party. When you're looking at the stimulus package, it 478 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: was about a trillion dollars for a stimulus package. So 479 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: we're now looking at three point five trilling, which is 480 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: completely just blowout spending with rising inflation, and the Democrats 481 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:49,359 Speaker 1: keep going, oh, Wow, inflation is a little worse than 482 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: I thought. Why is inflation going up? And so it's like, 483 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 1: this is math because you're putting so much money into 484 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 1: the economy, You're you're you're putting pressure on the currency. 485 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: But I think that they're going to have a tough 486 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: time convincing Democrats even if Mansion gets his way here 487 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: that what they've passed is really enough and shows that 488 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: the Biden agenda is real, because I think they overshot 489 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: with the initial price tag, so there will be a 490 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: letdown even if the one point seven trillion mansions holding 491 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: out for becomes the final number. And as for Mansion 492 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: switching parties or not, I think a lot of it 493 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: is going to be determined by how this actual debate 494 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: and political wrangling turns out for him. But it doesn't 495 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: strike me as implausible at all. Here's the way that 496 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: I would look at it. If Mansion wants to remain 497 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: in the Senate in the years ahead. He was elected 498 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: and re elected in eighteen, He's going to be up 499 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 1: for reelection in twenty four. I don't see any way 500 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: possible that in two twenty four he wins, given how 501 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: much the Senate has become a national referendum, particularly given 502 00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 1: how important his seat is. So I wonder whether you 503 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 1: tell me what you think about from a mansion perspective, 504 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: if he flips and decides to run as an independent 505 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: instead of a Democrat right before twenty twenty four, politically 506 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: he's going to get attacked as being a turncoat who 507 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: only cares about his reelection. If he changes parties several 508 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,479 Speaker 1: years in advance of twenty twenty four, he can say, hey, 509 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to be representing the people of West Virginia 510 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 1: the best way that I could, and even though I 511 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 1: was elected as a Democrat, I decided to become an independent. 512 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:35,959 Speaker 1: So I'm not now changing my colors just to get reelected. 513 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: Does that make sense? He can say, what is true. 514 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,240 Speaker 1: I think of a lot of Democrats the Democratic Party 515 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: left me. I didn't leave the Democratic Party, and in 516 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: order to best represent West Virginia, I needed to become 517 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: an independent. I think that's a compelling political argument. I 518 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: think it's easier to make now than it would be 519 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,400 Speaker 1: as a prelude to running in twenty twenty four, when 520 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 1: everybody would just say, oh, it's awfully convenient. You did 521 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: the Democrat bidding, and then as soon as you've mate 522 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: might face to consequences, you now try to change your 523 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 1: party affiliation. I think if he's gonna do it for 524 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, he has to do it now. And 525 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 1: if he's not gonna do it, I think he's basically 526 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: saying I'm out. I'm not going to try to win 527 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: reelection in twenty four. And in the meantime, we have 528 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: the fate of the Biden agenda hanging any analance because 529 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: there is nothing. I mean, those executive orders that Biden 530 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: signed the very beginning, things like stopping the Keystone XEL pipeline. Oh, 531 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,920 Speaker 1: that's great. Just remember that everybody every time you go 532 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,440 Speaker 1: to put gas in your car, the Biden administration approach 533 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: in general to energy, because they'll say, oh, but the 534 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: Keystone wasn't. Yeah, whatever the approach in general when it 535 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: comes to leasing on federal land, when it comes to 536 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 1: hydrocarbon as a general, they've taken the let's make it 537 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: as hard as possible and expensive as possible for you 538 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: to heat your home and have gas for your car. 539 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: But you look at the early Biden administration executive orders, 540 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: that doesn't cut it. What does cut it? We haven't 541 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: beaten COVID. The economy looks like it's I mean, we 542 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 1: keep talking about this, how it's just not a good 543 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 1: year for Joe Biden. If they don't get the massive 544 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: spending package through anywhere near even what they said they would, 545 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,359 Speaker 1: and we're talking about cutting it in half, that's gonna 546 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: be a tough sell. I mean, maybe it's funny. It's 547 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 1: a tough sell because of the expectations they set up, Clay, 548 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: but then a'bout the same token. As I said, it's 549 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: double almost what the Obama spending package was, and we 550 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: thought that was crazy. So it's all right, everybody, don't 551 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: worry about it. You know, your savings will just keep disappearing. 552 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: Smoke them if you got them, Clay and I will 553 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,199 Speaker 1: be here for you. As the Democrat commies ruined the 554 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: economy that we have. So that's what we got. It's 555 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: what we got. In the meantime, we got to tell 556 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: you about the Tunnel of the Towers Foundation. They come 557 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: every day hoping to do good deeds for men and 558 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,560 Speaker 1: women across the country. They pay attention to our first 559 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: responders and our troops and their families, and they've done 560 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 1: remarkable things this year. 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Again, 570 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 1: it's just eleven dollars a month at T the number 571 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: two T dot org. Closing up shop here today on 572 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. But we appreciate 573 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,880 Speaker 1: so much you're spending good time with us. Thank you 574 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: for being here, and if you missed any part of it, 575 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: please go to wherever you get your podcast. The iHeart 576 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: app is my personal favorite. You can listen to Clay 577 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton show there any time you like. 578 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: And we also have social media accounts. I get Facebook 579 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: messages from you during the show. Sometimes I'll say, people 580 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 1: write me, and you're writing me in real time. Clay 581 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: and I check our Twitter, our Facebook during the show. 582 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,479 Speaker 1: I'm buck Sexton on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram. If 583 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: you want to see Telula photos, a lot of Telula photos. 584 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: And you've got Clay Travis on Twitter on Instagram as well. Clay. 585 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: Where the cat photos? My man, we haven't had many 586 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: cat photos lately. Well. First of all, Ali and my wife, 587 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:27,080 Speaker 1: our producer, Ali, text back and forth. I think cat photos. 588 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: These cats are destroying my house. They just tear things apart. 589 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: My wife is furious when the boys break anything in 590 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: the house. And you can imagine with three young boys, 591 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 1: there's always wrestling and things getting broken. The cats destroy 592 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: everything and they get away with it, zero responsibility at all. 593 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: So there's tension now in the house over that, over 594 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: that Internet. Do you put little cat costumes on the cats? 595 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: Like does your wife good as that you know, is 596 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: one of your cats in a little Spider Man costume 597 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: or a little Fauci lab code that cat? I wouldn't like. 598 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: I don't think she's done that because the last Halloween 599 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: party last year, we had an issue with the cats. 600 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: The cats can't go outside right, and but there's tons 601 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: of people going in and out. So the cats escaped 602 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: and we weren't sure where they were. It was a 603 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 1: major calamity in the house. Every time the cats disappear. 604 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 1: So far they haven't gotten out. So I think the 605 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: cats are going to be locked up so that they 606 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: can't interact around Halloween. I don't think they'll be in 607 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: uh uh in costumes at all. Do you have a 608 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: favorite by the way, like, are you allow to pick 609 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: them on your cats? Cats? Equally? I am anti cat 610 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: like on the cats, Yes, Travis Media, it's going to 611 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: take that one in the house. Like a lot of 612 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: people out there during this whole COVID mess, we added 613 00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: family cats because my kids and my wife advocated for it, 614 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: and I get out voted four to one on the 615 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: cat front, so I had I would have no cats 616 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: in the house if it were my choice. Man, all 617 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: these all these people thought you were there, you were 618 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: their brother in cat ownership, and now you're you're you're 619 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: telling us you're all you're a dog guy. Well, not 620 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: only that, we have the Bengal cats, which are hypoallergenic, 621 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: so they don't give have to create major how allergy issues. 622 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: The cats cost me like a thousand dollars each. I 623 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: mean this, I was in disbelief. I think there's inflation 624 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: in cat prices and dog prices because everybody's trying to 625 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: buy them all right now, this is why I can't 626 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: stop working, Buck, because my family spends money like drunken sailors. 627 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 1: I've said this a lot. I wish I could come 628 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: back as either my wife or one of my sons 629 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: for a second life, because I'm out here working twenty 630 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,719 Speaker 1: hours a day and they get all of the benefits 631 00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,680 Speaker 1: and none of the stress. It's an amazing life to 632 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: be a Travis boy. Or my wife would probably say 633 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: it's an awful experience to be married to me for 634 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: almost twenty years. But I think they got pretty good lives. Now, 635 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: let's take a turn for a moment here toward Yeah, 636 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 1: but just one one quick thing, Clay And when I 637 00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: asked about English bulldog and French bulldog breeders on air, 638 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 1: because I actually had a I'd put in a kind 639 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 1: of request for a friend of mine who was breeding 640 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 1: his frenchie. Turned out their French he only had one, 641 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: so then they kept the one. But I was gonna 642 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: have a frenchie as of this fall. That was the idea, 643 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: but I got so it's amazing. I say to this audience, 644 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, hey, guys, I need to know what the 645 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: what the special you know, the little screw that goes 646 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: in the back of the black Hawk rotor is. And 647 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: you'll get fifty guys who are like, oh, I'm a 648 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: black Hawk mechanic. You know one hundred and seventeenth, the 649 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: one hundred and seventeenth aviation, you know. Right away and 650 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: with the dog breeders, I was inundated with people who 651 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: are like, I've got French chees, I've got bull looks. 652 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: It was so nice. I appreciate that, and I am 653 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: gonna be getting this spring I got. I gotta put 654 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,040 Speaker 1: a marker down. Man, what's the bulldog cost? Did you 655 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: look at the pricing? Bulldogs are really expensive? Like, well, 656 00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: I have no idea like French bull so French bulldogs 657 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: because they're French, they cost a whole lot of money. 658 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: I mean they if you were to buy one from 659 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 1: a standard breeder, they're usually about four thousand dollars. Oh 660 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,560 Speaker 1: my god, yeah, yeah, and actually thousand dollars. This is 661 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean, remember Lady Gaga someone's stole or two Frenchies. 662 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: I mean there's like a it's so the French bulldog 663 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: is the most expensive in the bulldog family. Yeah, accurate, Yeah, English, 664 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: what is the French bulldog versus another brand? And I 665 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: think the English bulldog you probably pick one up for 666 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,560 Speaker 1: about And again, these are city prices. They're people who 667 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: are like, fuck, I live in Nebraska. We'll give you 668 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: a dog for three hundred bucks, right, but yeah, or 669 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: for free or whatever. But you know the city prices 670 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: on this meeting. If you go to a breeder within 671 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: a driving distance not just of New York, but New York, Dallas, 672 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, places like Houston, places like big cities, big cities, 673 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna you're looking at probably a couple of grand 674 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,240 Speaker 1: for an English bulldog and four grand for a Frenchy. 675 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: But the blue Frenchy breed, or rather blue Frenchy type 676 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,960 Speaker 1: not breed. The blue Frenchies can go for clay. There's 677 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: a guy in my building who told me he paid 678 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars for his French bulldog. And that French bulldog, 679 00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, looks at me all the time, and 680 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,600 Speaker 1: it's like, get out of my way. Peasants. You know 681 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:01,719 Speaker 1: that is a fense. Thousand dollars said dogs. I just 682 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: want to know how he got the little blue friend. 683 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,720 Speaker 1: She to walk around with a beret and a little 684 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: cane that he hits the peasants like me with whenever 685 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: I get in the way, and a little monocle too, 686 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: you know, so tent that. I mean, I knew it 687 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: was going to be expensive, but I don't feel as 688 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: bad paying as much for these cats as I did now. 689 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 1: I So there you go. Man, see thousand thousand dollars 690 00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 1: for a cat like I don't feel like that's that's 691 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:24,879 Speaker 1: that crazy. Although you probably could have just gone into 692 00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 1: an alleyway somewhere in Nashville and think, certainly there are lots, 693 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: but they wouldn't be hypo allergenic. We've got two brothers 694 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: that are destroying the house. I'm I'm ready to put 695 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: I think I've given you a great idea too. I think, 696 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 1: missus Travis, you guys should get little costumes for the cats. 697 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,280 Speaker 1: I hope she's not listening, because that definitely she's probably 698 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 1: thought of it. Oh my gosh, I mean she's probably 699 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: already ready to go. She's laughing at us right now 700 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: she's got a little cat costumes for the for the kiddies. 701 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: We were going to talk about Jen Saki making fun 702 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: at question, but we'll get to that tomorrow. Sometimes you've 703 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: got to talk about cats and dogs living together. Mass hysteria, folks, 704 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,920 Speaker 1: Mass hysteria in your hometown, New York City, where the 705 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: Thomas Jefferson Statue came down, they used to be the 706 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: town of the Ghostbusters. Gave us such a good time, 707 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 1: New York, New York. Don't worry from a New York 708 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: listeners out there. The Clay and Buck Show, We're here 709 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 1: for you. You know We're things are a little crazy here. 710 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: We're here for you. If we're here for you in 711 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Miami, Tampa, Portland's we'll be here a long time. 712 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: If we tell all the cities across the country, we're 713 00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: here for you. 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