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Speaker 1: We got it. Appears by Ben mallor t Ben. We

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Speaker 1: don't want to go home. They don't want to hang

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Speaker 1: made an appearance on the show. Things are looking up.

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Speaker 1: You know you'd have made him when Big ben Cones

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Speaker 1: a good show. So you know, you guys were we

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Speaker 1: were kind of breaking down. You know what version of

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Speaker 1: Lebron do you want to see? Wrap? Can I give up? So,

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Speaker 1: by the way, it's too certain for this. This kind

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Speaker 4: That I completely forgot to mention to you guys, So

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Speaker 2: I mean you brought it up. I mean I set

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Speaker 4: Let's Here's the thing is Jonahs hates when we make

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Speaker 4: audibles or changes. So let's lie yeah number one on

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Speaker 1: From time and then have to change that.

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Speaker 4: What I'd like to do is somehow talk about this

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Speaker 4: so that's one additional person's perspective. He was also concerned

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Speaker 1: Like it or not. He's a rising tide. He's still

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Speaker 4: I don't know to this conversation, was he was over

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Speaker 1: I just I don't People love to hate him, but

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Speaker 2: We've seen it twice already down.

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Speaker 4: This road, so no, you haven't been down you know

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Speaker 4: what there's another different road that I wonder if it

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Speaker 1: It's because of is it Rich Paul? His influence in

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Speaker 1: That is that everything is based off of what lebron

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Speaker 1: what happens to Bronni? It's a great question. I think

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Speaker 1: Brownie James's name. I don't even I didn't even know

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Speaker 2: It's We've done it twice, We've seen it, and I

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Speaker 2: He can still play and can still be an impact

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Speaker 2: It's not like he's an awful player all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: We talked about it yesterday. He's still a twenty point

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Speaker 1: But I other people through san Antonio out there that

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Speaker 1: the cachet and the stardom and the drawing card that

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Speaker 1: second time around, what's better than the second time around?

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Speaker 1: The third time around? He's not better he's not a

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Speaker 1: He was super crazy, athletic, got things done, accomplished at

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Speaker 1: a high level. Second time around, he learned how to

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Speaker 1: be a champion and brought that back to Cleveland. Third

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Speaker 1: time around. Third time around, you try it. But the

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Speaker 1: And if you get if you get to have a

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Speaker 1: in his last season what would be his final season,

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Speaker 1: and you get to celebrate that, and that's where he's from,

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Speaker 1: and you have a history with him of one and

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Speaker 2: Is and his whole you know, wanting if he wants

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Speaker 2: ending to his career.

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Speaker 1: Dude, if it was so great, why'd you leave?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: If you love Cleveland so much? Why were you a

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Speaker 1: It's just like this whole it's so.

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Speaker 2: Forced, and I think fans it's not fair. I think

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Speaker 1: It's not fair. Why is that it's not fair? Why

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Speaker 1: He's he's you know, what kind of makes it a

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Speaker 1: I mean he's from Cleveland, okay, but that that's all

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Speaker 1: good from Cleveland. But what does he have to really

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Speaker 1: We were a good team.

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Speaker 2: Back and we're really good back then.

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Speaker 1: All of the man, what it really was, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: that is fine.

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Speaker 2: There's there's there's nothing. There's nothing wrong with with any

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Speaker 2: of that. All that's great. It's just when you come

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Speaker 2: back and try and sell everybody on man, I love it.

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Speaker 1: I do it for this city. I do You don't.

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Speaker 2: You left Miami to go win titles, he didn't get criticized,

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Speaker 2: and then you left.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have that Cleveland. He doesn't have a school,

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Speaker 1: and then you and then you school, and then.

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Speaker 2: You left Cleveland again to go make movies and be

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Speaker 1: All right, it's smart, Okay, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean, look, he's gonna make a probably Netflix thing about it,

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Speaker 4: you know, like The Last Dance or something. Why not

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Speaker 4: that's probably how it's gonna go. And why not do

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Speaker 4: it in Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing wrong with that. You know.

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Speaker 4: It's whatever he wants. It's his the end of his career.

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Speaker 4: But like the Boston Celtics, the Pittsburgh Penguins, the Chicago Bears,

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Speaker 2: And I grew up in southern California. Yes, So all

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Speaker 2: It I don't know from what I've heard, the dollar

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Speaker 1: It does it does, all right, So his dollars is

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Speaker 1: Damn Jonas. Here's the thing is, we're building this up.

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Speaker 2: But we're all in agreement. He's not retiring.

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Speaker 4: Away, lavarns, Yeah, yeah, gotta, I gotta got I'm talking get.

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Speaker 2: Here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn Jonas Knoxley,

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Speaker 1: You stop if if he played great from what I

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Speaker 2: He's get Nam number one pick like it's it's almost

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Speaker 1: Man. Stop. I'm just saying they knew what he was

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Speaker 2: LaVar you're mentioning Sphere in Vegas. Yesterday you assaulted an

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Speaker 1: Thank you old man out there, whoever you are, I

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Speaker 2: at Sphere in Vegas coming up September nineteenth for Mayweather

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Speaker 2: Pakio too.

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Speaker 1: All right, right, when you.

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Speaker 2: Thought that only Mike Tyson, let's go because the older

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Speaker 2: I'm in, I am in.

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Speaker 1: When's the last time Pakia fought? Did he fight somewhere? Recently? July?

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Speaker 1: He fought uh Mario? Do you like to how'd you

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Speaker 2: I had Pacquiao winning, but that's only because I had

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Speaker 1: Stop what It was still there?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the speed was still there. Watched the fight. I'm

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Speaker 4: Gonna ask question, is this good for boxing? Is this

437
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 4: kind of sad in a way.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's turning into WWF versus being real boxing,

439
00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 1: Like this is just I don't want to call it ridiculous.

440
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,520
Speaker 1: I mean, you have the right to do something that

441
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Speaker 1: you love, and if you can do it and make

442
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:26,280
Speaker 1: money off of it and turn it into a spectacle

443
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Speaker 1: and give people an experience, I mean there's something to it.

444
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Speaker 1: If I could have saw George Big, George Foreman, and

445
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,959
Speaker 1: Muhammad Ali, even at the states that they were in

446
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 1: later in life, get back into the ring, like they

447
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 1: would have had to help Muhammed get to the ring,

448
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: that you know, Big George would have probably made it

449
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: to the ring on his own, unassisted, and we got

450
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,280
Speaker 1: to see them get into the ring. And I'm not

451
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,840
Speaker 1: like it sounds like a bit with it, which it

452
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a bit, but in actuality

453
00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: and reality to see them and real life get back

454
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: into the ring, even if it was just to like

455
00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: stand there and shake for the whole entire round and

456
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: Big George move around.

457
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Speaker 3: Like.

458
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Speaker 1: There could be some value. There's value to it because

459
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 1: of what the historical value connected to it is. But

460
00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:30,159
Speaker 1: outside of this being and it should be labeled, it

461
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 1: should be marketed, it should be advertised as this is

462
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: an experience because the reality of it is is that

463
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: like Rocky did it best, and Rocky what was it

464
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Speaker 1: Rocky for? Like when Apollo Creed did it back then?

465
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Speaker 1: Which that's the model that this is right now. Exhibition,

466
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Speaker 1: But he chose to take an exhibition against a bigger, stronger,

467
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Speaker 1: younger dude and he kuilt him. Also, you want death, No,

468
00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: I don't want death, But don't market it as a

469
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: real fight, Like, oh wow, don't market it as don't

470
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,680
Speaker 1: market these fights as real fights. Well, I believe I

471
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,439
Speaker 1: don't believe this is an exhibition fight. This is a

472
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Speaker 1: real fight. This is a real fight, which that's ridiculous.

473
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Speaker 4: Jonas, Can you give us a reminder of what happened

474
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 4: the last time these two felt?

475
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Speaker 1: I mean, I believe Pakia was going in with an

476
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Speaker 1: injured shoulder.

477
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that people didn't really know about. He had a

478
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 2: torn rotator cuff, and you can see there was an

479
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 2: exchange in the fight where he reaggravated it and the

480
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 2: fight change from that point on and Mayweather controlled him

481
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,000
Speaker 2: like he does a majority of the time. Pakia had

482
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Speaker 2: moments and flurries here and there, but people were pissed

483
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Speaker 2: off because you remember that was the old pay per

484
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 2: view model back in the day, and I think they

485
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 2: were charging one hundred dollars for the fight, And once

486
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,520
Speaker 2: people found out that Pakia went in with an injured

487
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Speaker 2: shoulder and was compromised, some people actually filed lawsuits to

488
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Speaker 2: try and get their hundred bucks back because.

489
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Speaker 1: They felt like they were sold to Bill Goods.

490
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: But even that fight, back then, they were past their

491
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Speaker 2: peak years. They'd been trying to get a deal done,

492
00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 2: but still Massive Fight. HBO and Showtime were both involved

493
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 2: back when they were still doing boxing. And so now

494
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: we're going to get it on Netflix. And look, the

495
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Speaker 2: only thing I would say is I was looking at

496
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Speaker 2: the college football slate for September nineteenth, and I mean,

497
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:27,879
Speaker 2: there's some some good games.

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Speaker 1: It's football. I'm just saying, you don't know, you don't

499
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Speaker 1: know what games are going to be good or bet within.

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Speaker 2: I well, you got names you may get, Okay, that's fair.

501
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Speaker 2: Florida State Alabama, that's.

502
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Speaker 1: A great that's a great name matchup.

503
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Speaker 2: That's a good match up there. What about Georgia Arkansas

504
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: into Georgia.

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Speaker 1: That's a good name matchup. Florida a Florida Auburn.

506
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean you gotta Now let's go to

507
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Speaker 2: the Big Ten here, Shoot, we got because I know,

508
00:25:54,840 --> 00:26:00,919
Speaker 2: Penn State's got a whole fun matchup. Penn State hoasting Buffalo,

509
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 2: how about it? Buffalo plays football, Michigan State Notre Dame.

510
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 2: There you go in South Bend.

511
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Speaker 1: In South Bend, a good one, all right.

512
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 2: The Hilltoppers are taking on the defending national champs at Indiana.

513
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Speaker 1: There. Who are the Who's Western Kentucky? All right? Bowling

514
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Speaker 1: Green Kentucky. Man, y'all said that, like I should know,

515
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Speaker 1: you should know. I don't know and put you up

516
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Speaker 1: on Game. In fact, I won't even know a boy

517
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Speaker 1: the end of this segment up on Game. I'll forget

518
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 1: it before the segment is you can't use that quote.

519
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Speaker 4: And I know Bowling Green, Kentucky down Western they sling

520
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 4: that rock around.

521
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Speaker 1: Man. Dang Colorado giving you that high school quarterback talk

522
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: right there, Bailey Zapi down there right now, that's the

523
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Speaker 1: that's the dude. Like the biggest advocates for Bailey ZAPPI.

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Speaker 1: I think what time I remember Bailey's app. Oh yeah,

525
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Speaker 1: you wanted to get zapped? Yeah you were, Hey, Jonas,

526
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Speaker 1: don't get slapped out in this this studio, you get that,

527
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 1: I don't want to get don't don't try break. That

528
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 1: is weird. That is weird that we wore the same exactly.

529
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Speaker 1: That is some weirds though, and the wowest well, we'll

530
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 1: have to post that on our Instagram. How that's weird? Man?

531
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: That that kind of creeped me out a little bit,

532
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: Like are you in my bedroom? I text you did

533
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: not need to see what was going on in myxed

534
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 1: LeVar this morning. I was like, we're doing it. He goes,

535
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Speaker 1: you know what? Blood all right? You know we did it.

536
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Speaker 4: All right, let's get uh, let's get back on track

537
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 4: in regards to the fights we did.

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Speaker 1: Can can we acknowledge what this is probably about? Oh? Yeah? Money?

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00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah. The funny thing is, would you say the

540
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 4: persons are bigger now? Because I feel like they were

541
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 4: huge back then too. Let's do a little game any

542
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 4: game show?

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00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: Music? Love game shows? Okay, man, I love game shows.

544
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,520
Speaker 1: Oh ready, okay, all right.

545
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Speaker 4: Now, I'm not going to go through every individual fight,

546
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Speaker 4: but I am going to ask you, guys, how much

547
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Speaker 4: do you think Floyd Mayweather had grossed? I mean, how

548
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 4: much he made in his entire boxing career up to

549
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Speaker 4: this point. I've got an estimated number. Go ahead, LeVar

550
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 4: eight hundred million, okay, eight hundred million. Jonas, what's your guess.

551
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Speaker 1: I'm going to say eight hundred and one million. Oh

552
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:30,879
Speaker 1: and what the price is?

553
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: Right, model dd D D ding Jonas knocks wins one

554
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 4: point one to one point two billion dollars?

555
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Speaker 1: Knocks loocks. Could you imagine spend that is forty eight

556
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 1: and he's already forty eight years old. He's already spent,

557
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: and he's like he needs to This is wild. It's

558
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 1: wild to me.

559
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Speaker 2: He's got that lawsuit again showtime. He says they own

560
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 2: like three hundred and fifty million dollars, So that's pending.

561
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Speaker 1: Whatever that's going to Is that included in that one

562
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 1: point one billion? Is that d O him? But I'm

563
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: just saying, like, if his career earnings is reported to

564
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Speaker 1: be one point one billion, if you take away three

565
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: hundred million from that, which is still a whole lot

566
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Speaker 1: of money.

567
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Speaker 4: But I mean that is that is the estimated number

568
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 4: based on his professional boxing career that includes the fight

569
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Speaker 4: versus pay per view revenue, shares and promotions via the

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00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:32,719
Speaker 4: Mayweather Promotions, endorsements, appearances to exhibitions.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like it could be feasible that

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Speaker 1: that it's a figure that he got to I know.

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00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: I mean he was that let that Canelo fight. He

574
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Speaker 1: made a lot of money McGregor fighting made and if

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Speaker 1: you do like.

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Speaker 4: The time value of money, like inflation adjusted, it's actually

577
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 4: closer one point five. All right, Many pakiaw How much

578
00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: do you think Many Pakia made in his boxing career?

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Speaker 1: Probably like half a BILLI five hundred I'll get jump out.

580
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Speaker 1: I'll say five hundred and one million. Jonas Knox wins

581
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Speaker 1: again getting that's right.

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Speaker 4: Manipacia made five hundred and seventy five to six hundred

583
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Speaker 4: million dollars in his career, to be fair.

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Speaker 1: Funny thing is, I gave us the five hundred figure,

585
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Speaker 1: you're going to go five hundred and one. You wouldn't

586
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Speaker 1: even know. I was gonna say, like ten grand? What

587
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: do I know?

588
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: I don't think in those terms. But the thing about

589
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Speaker 2: manypaciav for being fair. It's not like he's been great

590
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Speaker 2: with his money either. Like I was about Handler too,

591
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Speaker 2: is I was gonna ask that you've.

592
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Speaker 1: Always brought this up. It's well known. What exactly are

593
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Speaker 1: the issues that he's facing?

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Speaker 2: All right, So there's been so many Pacio was a

595
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Speaker 2: you know, a god fearing man. He's a completely different

596
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 2: guy now, but there was and levard I were actually

597
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 2: talking about this recently. There was a time where he

598
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Speaker 2: had a reputation that he would spend a lot of

599
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Speaker 2: hours in pool halls and he wasn't always alone, and

600
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Speaker 2: you know, he had maybe some things on the side,

601
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Speaker 2: and there was a famous there's a I guess not

602
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: a well known story, but I believe the third of

603
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Speaker 2: the fourth fights that he had against Juan Manuel Marquez

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Speaker 2: in Vegas one.

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00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: Of the reports was knocked out.

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00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 2: Well, no, that he actually won that fight, but it

607
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 2: was controversial for those wondering, I actually.

608
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: I had him winning out one fifteen, one thirteen for

609
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: those for those curious, but knocks, I get mailed that one. Yeah.

610
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 2: But in that event, Pakia showed up to the fight

611
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Speaker 2: with Marquez the third of the fourth like forty five

612
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 2: minutes before the ring walks, which is like never happens,

613
00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: and they were calling and calling, and the report was

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Speaker 2: that he was having a fight in the hotel room

615
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: with his wife. They were arguing about some marital stuff.

616
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: So he he had like all sorts of things going on.

617
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 2: And later in his career, because he would give away

618
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 2: so much money, he was asking for advancements when he

619
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Speaker 2: would take fights, so you would ask for, you know,

620
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: ten million dollars in advance. Whatever it was to be

621
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Speaker 2: able to pay bills and to be able to pay

622
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Speaker 2: for certain things. Because his entourage was so big, Like

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Speaker 2: if you watch any of those twenty four sevens, Yeah, dude,

624
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 2: he had like like twenty five Filipinos in his house

625
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: that were friends and family at all times, at every

626
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 2: fight that had nothing to do with the fight, and

627
00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 2: he was supporting all your household tang oh today close.

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00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: Yeah not the Philippines though, Yeah where from from from

629
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: the city? Hey man, you know linebacker you my people?

630
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, these guys clearly need wall over there. These

631
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 2: guys clearly need a few bucks going into this fight,

632
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: Which is kind of sad because.

633
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Speaker 4: Is that is that also a byproduct of and there

634
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 4: are some really good younger fighters, but for whatever reason,

635
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 4: they just have not been able to build their brands

636
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 4: the same way. Is that a byproduct of that of

637
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 4: what the younger fighters not being over the younger fighters like,

638
00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 4: there's still good talented young fighters right and real good boxing,

639
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: they just can't seem to like create the type of

640
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 4: I don't know it's branding image that the way Mayweather

641
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 4: did or Tyson just because his style of fighting and

642
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 4: all that.

643
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Speaker 1: Just it feels like there's not as big of.

644
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: Draws HBO and showtime pulling out of boxing, change the game,

645
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: whatever anybody wants to say, Like.

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Speaker 1: You only get a few that hit that meteoric rise,

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Speaker 1: You only get a few because there have been a

648
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:38,680
Speaker 1: ton of really really dope boxers, really dope boxers, and

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00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 1: they they never reached that level of fame and popularity,

650
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 1: So I don't think that's new and unique to to now.

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00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: I think to boxing fans, boxing fans know who the

652
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 1: good ones out there are. But in terms of mainstream

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Speaker 1: I think boxing as a whole has and a lot

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Speaker 1: of it has to do with how it's marketed and

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Speaker 1: how it's it's you know, how it's advertised out there.

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Speaker 1: And HBO did a great job of selling fights and

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Speaker 1: selling fights at the public. Showtime did a great job

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Speaker 1: as well. But I just think boxing as as a

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Speaker 1: whole as a sport has taken a back seat to

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Speaker 1: to other sports. And and I'm and I would say

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Speaker 1: I would venture to say, like M M A has

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Speaker 1: probably replaced boxing in terms of relevance, short attention span,

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Speaker 1: shorter fights, quicker round uh less rounds. But if you're

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Speaker 1: paying attention, like we just had a brilliant career in

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Speaker 1: with with Bud Crawford, you know, brilliant Shakor Stevenson is

666
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Speaker 1: is a dope fighter. Gervante was hitting there, but he

667
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Speaker 1: just can't stay. He just can't. He can't hold it together,

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Speaker 1: man Like, he just can't, you know whatever, for one

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Speaker 1: reason or another. However, he'd be feeling in the moments,

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of you know Johnson healthy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't. He can't get out of the boxing

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Speaker 2: ring with his with his chick, can't keep his hands

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Speaker 2: off off female and not in a good way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all that. Yeah, not a good way, knock at all.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, there's then you got ben Avita's out there. Man.

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Speaker 1: Benavitaz is the one I like when I'm sitting there

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Speaker 1: thinking about the Russian killing, killing Apollo Creed and and that. Like,

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Speaker 1: imagine if if Floyd said, yeah, I'll take a fight

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Speaker 1: with Benavitas, Oh, don't do that, I would now that

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Speaker 1: not only am I I'm going I'm going to that fight.

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Speaker 1: Give me a real fight, give me a real fight.

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Speaker 1: Even if you said, Okay, Mike Tyson is coming back

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Speaker 1: into the ring, he's gonna fight Anthony Joshua, give me

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Speaker 1: a real fight. I'll go see Anthony Joshua versus Mike Tyson.

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Speaker 1: I go see that, like, and I'd hate to see

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Speaker 1: the destruction of Mike Tyson. I would hate to see,

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Speaker 1: but I would go see because I believe that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get the best of whatever that old version of

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Speaker 1: Mike Tyson is. And you gotta get the best from

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Speaker 1: Anthony Joshua because you can't lose to Iron Mike at

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Speaker 1: sixty some years old, you can't do it. I would

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Speaker 1: go see Mike would Mike would be destroyed. It would

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Speaker 1: destroy and Ben and and Benavidez. Here's the thing. I'm

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Speaker 1: not certain that Benavidez would destroy Floyd. I just know

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Speaker 1: Floyd wouldn't win. But I would be interested to see

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Speaker 1: if somebody could physically dominate Floyd Mayweather. Even yeah, now

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Speaker 1: he is, he's like hitting light heavyweight. He fight his

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00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: last fights, I like heavyweight. But at some point they

699
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Speaker 1: were you know, in that welterweight discussion, like light welterweight.

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Speaker 1: It could it could happen. It's a possibility that that

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Speaker 1: could have happened.

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Speaker 2: Well, it is Two Pros and a Cup of Joe

703
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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio, LaVar Arrington, Brady Win Jonas

704
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Speaker 2: here coming up next here though bygones will be letting

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00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 2: bygones be bygones in the world of sports does not

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Speaker 2: exist for one of the all time greats.

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Speaker 1: You'll hear why next here on FSR, be.

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Speaker 3: Sure to catch live editions of Two Pros and a

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Speaker 3: Cup of Joe with Brady Quinn, LeVar Errington, and Jonas

710
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: Knox weekdays at six am Eastern, three am Pacific on

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Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 2: Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 2: LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with the here coming

714
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Speaker 2: up top of next hour, we'll call it a little

715
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Speaker 2: over ten minutes from now, we're going to tell you

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Speaker 2: about a little tweak, a little change potentially to the

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Speaker 2: NFL coming very very soon. That'll be yours right here

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Speaker 2: on FSR. But right now it is time for this.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you can't We had got to everything in the

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Speaker 3: world of sports or entertainment.

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Speaker 1: Good thing.

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Speaker 3: The guys are here to bring you in case you

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Speaker 3: missed it.

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Speaker 2: And guys, I don't know if you're familiar with the

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Speaker 2: great Jeff Kent, former Major League Baseball player, was voted

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Speaker 2: into the Hall of Fame back in December.

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Speaker 1: Had to wait a little while, but you got voted

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Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame back into That's right, ye

729
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: had to wait a little bit. You know. He's always

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Speaker 1: been known as a guy who spoke his mind.

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Speaker 2: Maybe yeah, I remember, I'm always speaking his mind. He

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Speaker 2: might have bothered some teammates from time to time. And

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Speaker 2: so you would think that now that he's gotten into

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Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame, he's a happy man. You know,

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Speaker 2: you let bygones be bygones. But apparently that is not

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Speaker 2: the case. He was in the booth during a Giant

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Speaker 2: spring training game over the weekend on KNBR and Jeff

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Speaker 2: Kent had this to say, and I'm going to against

739
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Speaker 2: my better judgment, I'm hoping you guys will keep this clean.

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Speaker 2: Upon hearing the dialogue and the back and forth between

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Speaker 2: Jeff Kent, all right, and let's take a listen.

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Speaker 4: Who was He was your size, and he came in

743
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Speaker 4: hard on you and and and you know.

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Speaker 1: You survived it. But I think he got banged up

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Deal for yeah, I did.

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Speaker 6: He tore my knee up, he went, she slid and

747
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Speaker 6: rolled his fat ass past the base, the son of

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Speaker 6: a bitch and put me out for a little while.

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Speaker 6: I was, Yeah, I was not happy about that because

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Speaker 6: he was a middle infielder and we were beating him

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Speaker 6: up pretty good.

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Speaker 1: He didn't need to be doing that.

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Speaker 4: So and not that you've thought about it much since then,

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Speaker 4: that's half.

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Speaker 1: Empty right there, John. But that was the one time

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Speaker 1: I do remember that a guy really came in hard

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Speaker 1: on you. But anyway, and I would throw the ball.

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Speaker 6: I wouldn't literally throw the ball between their eyes. If

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Speaker 6: they came in and they weren't ducking down, I was

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Speaker 6: throwing the ball right between their eyes. They better get down.

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Speaker 1: And that's the way he got taught.

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Speaker 2: So you got into a hall of fame, it's a

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Speaker 2: good bit. So when you got all right. So when

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Speaker 2: you got into the Hall of fame, all right, I

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Speaker 2: would assume. And when Brady gets in, all the old rivalry,

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Speaker 2: you just let those things go. Jeff Ken apparently not

767
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Speaker 2: a hard slide by a rod, and all these years

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Speaker 2: later he's calling him a fat ass during a spring

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Speaker 2: training game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but he was having good fun with it, like

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Speaker 1: that was not No, that wasn't That wasn't like if

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Speaker 1: Keat's got a little bit of a reputation. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: that was fun. He was having fun with it. That's

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Speaker 1: my interpretation of it. I don't I don't mean to

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Speaker 1: steal the bite from it, but he was. He was

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Speaker 1: having a good time with it. He sounded he actually

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Speaker 1: did sound happy and Joe vial.

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Speaker 4: Rivalries don't die well unless I guess you don't, you know,

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Speaker 4: decide not to play each other anymore, but you know

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Speaker 4: the memories that all that, that fades it a little bit.

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Speaker 4: But that sounded more like fun. You know, he's just

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Speaker 4: taking and taken.

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Speaker 1: In the moment.

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Speaker 2: And I think he might have been when he pointed

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Speaker 2: to something being half empty. He also might have been

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Speaker 2: what might have been sipping a little something though, or

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Speaker 2: or pasty.

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Speaker 1: Allen the Mayweather