1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: How many of you would like to make more money 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: this year. I'm guessing the answer is yes. All of 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:09,119 Speaker 1: us will need to make more money to take care 4 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: of the people we love, to build the dreams, and 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: to build our life. But what happens when we're told 6 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:18,400 Speaker 1: to chase wealth but never taught the rules of money? 7 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: Nearly half of the adults in the United States grade 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: their financial knowledge a SEE or worse. Yet social media 9 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: pushes get rich quick. True freedom isn't about hacks. It's 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: about discipline, risk, and understanding money. 11 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 2: The number one health and wellness podcast. 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: Jay Set Jay Shetty Set. In this episode, you will 13 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: hear from financial experts who share lessons on saving, investing, 14 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: and building wealth that serves your goals, not your impulses. 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Scott Galloway puts it simply, saving isn't about willpower. It 16 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: starts with having something to save. Reclaiming just eight to 17 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: ten hours a week from distractions like TikTok or gaming 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: could shift your financial future and discipline. It comes most 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: easily from automation. Only seventeen percent of Americans use automatic 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: deposits or transfers to build savings, yet it's the most 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: reliable way to grow wealth without relying on willpower. What 22 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: I love about Scott's message is that he doesn't frame 23 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: money as an overnight breakthrough. He frames it as an 24 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: ongoing practice. Here are the key takeaways. Start small, automate it, 25 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: let time do the compounding, and remember your early years 26 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: are for workshopping. Don't expect perfection, expect to keep showing 27 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: up because it's not intensity, but consistency that builds true 28 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: financial freedom. I was talking to my team about this 29 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: before you came, because I love getting into everyone's heads 30 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: about what's everyone worried about, what's I'm struggling with, what 31 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: are we thinking about? And one of the big things 32 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: that came up was I don't know how to save. 33 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: Like a lot of young people say this to me today, 34 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: like I don't even know what saving means anymore. They've 35 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: not been trained in it. The education system let them down. 36 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: Maybe their parents keep saying save, save, safe, safe, save, 37 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: but their consumption is high. If someone's thinking about saving today, 38 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: how do they create a framework for healthy and realistic saving. 39 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 3: Well, the first thing you have to have something to say. 40 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: There's just no getting around it. You've got to be 41 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: able to make money and the best way to make 42 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 3: a lot of money is by starting and making a 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 3: little bit of money. I coach a lot of young 44 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 3: men and typically what I do on the first meeting 45 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 3: as I tell them to unlock their phone and I say, 46 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: I'm not going to judge you. You know, I'm on TikTok, 47 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 3: I watch porn. I'm not easily offended here. And we're 48 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: going to find eight to ten hours a week out 49 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 3: of your phone. And it's ridiculously easy with young men 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: to find eight or ten hours in their phone between Robinhood, Twitter, 51 00:02:56,160 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 3: what have you, and we reinvest it. The first thing 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 3: is we got to figure out Okay, for me, it's 53 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 3: physical fitness. 54 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 2: Right away. 55 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 3: We're going to spend two to four hours a week 56 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 3: getting strong, especially I coach mostly young men, but I 57 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: think one of the keys to mental health is feeling 58 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,799 Speaker 3: as if, when you're a young man, that you could 59 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: walk into any room and if shit got real, kill 60 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 3: and eat everybody, or out and run them. I think 61 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 3: that should be your goal. I think it's instinctual. I 62 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 3: think it make you feel strong. I think it make 63 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 3: it feel kinder. The people who break up fights at 64 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 3: bars are usually big, strong men. The second thing you 65 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 3: have to start making some money. I don't care if 66 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 3: it's flipping on your smartphone to be a lift driver 67 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 3: or a task rabbit, going to CBS and stocking shelves. 68 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 3: Even just a little bit of money gives you a 69 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: taste for the flesh of money and get you thinking 70 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 3: about different ways to make money. And capital in a 71 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 3: capitalist society is intoxicating. So we have to figure out 72 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 3: a way to start making some money. Once we start 73 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 3: making some money and we have a salary and we 74 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 3: work at an organization, ninety eight percent of people will 75 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: spend everything that comes through their hands, right. It just 76 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 3: you live in a society where there are the most 77 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 3: impressive people and the most impressive technology ever in the 78 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: history of our planet. Have one mission, and that's to 79 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: figure out a way to present you with the ultimate 80 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 3: offer at exactly the right time. Oh, heading to Coppo 81 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 3: for a girl's weekend. Wouldn't you like to upgrade from 82 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:21,840 Speaker 3: economy to economy comfort? 83 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: Oh? 84 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 3: Only two of these rooms left. How about upgrade now 85 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 3: to the special SPA package. Oh, you just bought a 86 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 3: pair of on running shoes, What about these bomba socks. 87 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 3: It is nearly impossible for a young person to save 88 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 3: money if it comes through their hands, if they get 89 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 3: their hands on it. You want to figure out a 90 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 3: force savings So everything from like the Acorns app that 91 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 3: rounds up and puts the money automatically into a low 92 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 3: cost index fund. Find out what government programs there are 93 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 3: in your nation that where if you sign up, the 94 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: money's taken out of your check, maybe it's matched by 95 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 3: the government, maybe it's matched by your employer four oh 96 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 3: one k Ira Roth. First thing you do, find someone 97 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 3: smarter your company. Talk to your tax advisor, go on 98 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 3: AI and say, what force savings mechanisms our most tax 99 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 3: advantage that I can participate in at an early age 100 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 3: because you really just need to take somewhere between call 101 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 3: it three and five percent of your income if you 102 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 3: start when you're in your twenties, and in the UK 103 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 3: they round up from four thousand pounds a year to 104 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 3: five thousand. There are tax deferred programs here such that 105 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 3: you don't get clipped twenty thirty forty percent each year. 106 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: So the first thing is I got to start making 107 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 3: some money. The next thing is I'm going to lean 108 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 3: into my advantage, your advantage when you're young. Everyone has 109 00:05:36,240 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: capital when you're young, you have more human capital, you 110 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 3: have more time than financial capital. So I'm going to 111 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 3: lean into that advantage and if I can just figure 112 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 3: out the discipline of getting one thousand, two thousand, five 113 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: thousand bucks a year into one of these programs, I'm 114 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: not going to touch it. I'm not going to think 115 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 3: about it. I'm not going to trade. I'm going to 116 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 3: focus on what I'm good at. By the time you're 117 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 3: my age, you're going to be fine. But the easiest 118 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 3: way to do that is a forced savings plan. You 119 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 3: have agency make some money and immediately, I don't care 120 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: if it's you start off making a couple grand a 121 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 3: month as a task, grab it or whatever it might be. 122 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 3: I'm going to take two or three percent of it 123 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 3: and find a program sets that it never gets into 124 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: my hands and goes into a low cost diversified index. 125 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: Mont. 126 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 1: One of the things I love you talk about in 127 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: the book The Algebra of Wealth is you talk about 128 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 1: the challenge we have with our goals. The first is 129 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: we set unrealistic goals and then they're super long term, 130 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: so we say things to ourselves like, well, in the 131 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: next twelve months, I'm going to save twelve thousand dollars 132 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: and it's like we've never even saved five hundred dollars. 133 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 1: And you talk about this need to set a goal 134 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 1: of like this is how much I'm going to save 135 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 1: this month, Like this is where I'm going to start. 136 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: And it's so interesting you talk about time and your 137 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: work with young men, because I think time is so 138 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: interesting because I think today most people would rather finish 139 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: their work day and we'd love to just switch on 140 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: a show, doom, scroll on TikTok, And so there is 141 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: more time that could be engaged in creating other revenue streams, etc. 142 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: But what is really blocking us from doing that? I 143 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: think everyone knows they have time, they know they want 144 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: to make more money, but there's something there that's just 145 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: blocking us from getting activated. What have you found that 146 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: is so? 147 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 3: I can't speak for the whole population, but generally speaking, 148 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: the lack of executive function is the part of the 149 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: brain that controls that is the prefrontal cortex, the kind 150 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: of gas on, gas off, the part of the brain 151 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 3: that says stop playing video games and start studying. That 152 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,239 Speaker 3: is maturing later and later in boys. It's somewhere between 153 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: twelve and eighteen months behind a young women so in 154 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 3: many ways, a senior in high school, a woman who's 155 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: applying to college, and a young man who's applying to 156 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 3: college senior in high school, the woman is competing against 157 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: a sixteen and a half year old, and as a result, 158 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 3: few and fewer men are going to college. And we're 159 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: in an economy where forty years ago, one of three 160 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 3: jobs needed a college degree. Now it's two and three. 161 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 3: Women are correctly and justifiably, especially young women, blowing by 162 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 3: young men. They have more discipline, they have higher eq. 163 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: Quite frankly, they're just more mature. I say this in 164 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 3: my own company. I have a lot of young people, 165 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: disproportionate amount of young people in my organization. There's some 166 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 3: very talented young men, but I would describe them kind 167 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 3: of as dopey, almost a little boyish. I have some 168 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 3: young women in my firm who could be the junior 169 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 3: senator from Pennsylvania. Women are just maturing earlier. So there's 170 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 3: certain biological things that get in the way of men 171 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 3: having executive function. I also think that there's so much temptation. 172 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 3: I think there's a little bit of belief of kind 173 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: of yolo, you know, this is it live for today. 174 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,319 Speaker 3: I also think it's harder for them to save just 175 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 3: because everything's so goddamn expensive, so it's discouraging for them. 176 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, I'm working my ass off and I 177 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: can barely pay for my barely pay for my rent. 178 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 3: So this is anecdotal evidence, but it largely represents the economy. 179 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 3: When I got out of business school, the average salary 180 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,680 Speaker 3: was one hundred grand. You know, I went to quote 181 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: unquote a lead business school. I went to the high school. 182 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 3: The average house in San Francisco costs two hundred and 183 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 3: eighty thousand dollars, so two point eight times the NBA salary. Now, 184 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 3: the kids at how still in elite business goal incredible 185 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 3: compensation average two hundred grand right out of business school, 186 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 3: But the average home in San Francisco is two point 187 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 3: one million. Why because as soon as you have a house, 188 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 3: you become very concerned with traffic and you start showing 189 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 3: up to local review meetings and making sure no new 190 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 3: housing is built, Which is great if you already own 191 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 3: a home. Going back to the rejection of strategy, but 192 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: it's almost impossible now. It's almost like saving for a 193 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 3: home is out of my reach. The travel industry has 194 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: boomed and my thesis is that you have millions of 195 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: young people who are going into their mating ears and decided, 196 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 3: let's say four house. Let's say for a house then 197 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: pre pandemic, a house is two hundred and ninety k. 198 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,720 Speaker 3: Post pandemic, it's four to twenty. Interest rates from from 199 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: three percent to seven percent. Average mortgage went from eleven 200 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 3: hundred to two twenty two hundred. All of a sudden, 201 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 3: the American dream has become a hallucination of fantasy again. 202 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 3: I'm getting a backpack and I'm going to do an 203 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 3: Airbnb in mancok And travel stocks, hotel stocks, airline stocks 204 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 3: have all boomed because I think young people have given 205 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: up on the American dream of owning a home. But 206 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: circling back to your question, it's I think recognizing you 207 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: have agency, realizing that this is hard. 208 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: It's hard work. 209 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 3: You're working in an economy, build a kitchen cabinet of 210 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 3: people who can advise you. It's very hard to read 211 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: the label from inside of the bottle. You gotta work hard. 212 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: There's just no getting around it. I don't care how 213 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 3: talented you are. Beyonce works are ass off. I mean 214 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 3: it just people who want to be successful and influential 215 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: after work, work really hard, and then what I would 216 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 3: also say is that forgive yourself. My first job out 217 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 3: of college was investment banking. I hit the lottery. Everyone 218 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 3: was super impressed. I hated it and I wasn't going 219 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 3: to good at good at it, And within two and 220 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 3: a half years I was back living at home with 221 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 3: my mother, unemployed. That almost kind of devastated. But my 222 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 3: kind of success comes from my ability to endure rejection 223 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 3: and move through it, to mourn and move on. So 224 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 3: if you're in your twenties and you're thinking I'm not 225 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 3: making a lot of money, I'm having trouble like having 226 00:11:12,960 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 3: a nice life. I'm not entirely sure what I want 227 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: to do, then you are exactly where you should be. 228 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 3: Your twenties are for workshopping. Forgive yourself, but keep trying. 229 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 3: Reach out to people for help, show up, get the 230 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: easy shit right, show up early, be courteous, be kind, 231 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 3: you know, think about how do I get more certification? 232 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 3: And then the moment you lock in on something that 233 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: you're good at and could become great at, go all 234 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: in on it. And I come from the attitude I'm 235 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 3: assuming people want real economic security. Some people say, Scott, 236 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: I'm not like you. I don't want to live to work. 237 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: I want to work to live. Fine, but have an 238 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 3: honest conversation with yourself around what you need to make 239 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 3: to have a reasonable life. If you want to live 240 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: in LA and you want to have a nice lifestyle, 241 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,080 Speaker 3: you just have to make a shit ton of money. 242 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 3: That's just the reality. But if you say I'm not 243 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 3: all about work, then fine. Do you want to move 244 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: to Santa Clarita or do you want to move to 245 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 3: the Inland Empire or do you want to move to 246 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 3: somewhere in Oregon. Fine, but you have a sober conversation 247 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 3: with yourself. What are your expectations and realistically, what kind 248 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 3: of commitment and trade off are you going to need 249 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 3: to get there. What I tell young people is you 250 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 3: can have it all, you just can't have it all 251 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: at once. I have amazing balance right now, and looking 252 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 3: around I think you do. 253 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: But that's because I had. 254 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: Almost none in my twenties and thirties. And I don't 255 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 3: you know this whole life. I don't know much about you, 256 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,240 Speaker 3: but the life I lead now when I'm in LA, 257 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 3: I didn't even know what existed in my twenties because 258 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, I need to make money and I'm not 259 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: exceptionally talented. So the thing I can control is how 260 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 3: hard I work, and there's no getting around it. It'll 261 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 3: cost you some relationships. It cost me my hair, it 262 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 3: cost me my first marriage. And this sounds crass, but 263 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 3: it was worth it because now that I have kids, 264 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 3: now that I'm older, I have a lot of balance. 265 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 3: So it's a sober conversation. It's a kitchen cabinet. It's 266 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: forgiving yourself. It's trying to find something you're good at. 267 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 3: It's a lot of things, more than anything, more than anything, 268 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: forgive yourself. If things aren't working out in your twenties, 269 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 3: that's where you should be. Very rarely do people come 270 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 3: right out of college and go. 271 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: Like this, yeah, so well said so much to unpack 272 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: their scott and thank you for kind of giving us 273 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 1: so many points to check with. Just spreach Seeing breaks 274 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: down the three habits that keep people broke. He reminds 275 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: us that saving alone won't make you wealthy. If inflation 276 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: outpaces your interest, your savings lose value every day. That's 277 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: why wealthy people don't just earn more, they own more. 278 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: Just Spreach's first real estate investment taught him that wealth 279 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: isn't built by climbing the corporate ladder, but by owning 280 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: a piece of it. His challenge to all of us 281 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: learn how money moves, ask why, and focus on ownership 282 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: over appearances. If you could tell me what are the 283 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:07,160 Speaker 1: three habits that keep us in that poor or poverty mindset, 284 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 1: as you said, and what are the healthy habits that 285 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: bring us into the wealthy mindset? 286 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 4: Sure? So, the three I think biggest bad habits when 287 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 4: it comes to money. First, probably the most obvious, I 288 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 4: would say it is people following the two s's where 289 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 4: you're spending or saving all their money. You'll never become 290 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 4: wealthy if you do that. Number two would be you 291 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 4: blindly follow the system without questioning the way the system works. 292 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 4: And number three is you don't understand how money works. 293 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: So if you start with number one, the two says 294 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 4: save and spend. And now it's interesting if you look 295 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 4: at the financial statements for the majority of people in 296 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 4: America or even across the world, the way it looks 297 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: is you make money, you pay taxes, you spend money, 298 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 4: and then you wonder where all your money went. 299 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 1: Literally, and so people. 300 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 4: The majority people don't have any plan for their money, 301 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 4: and that's why the majority people have little to no 302 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 4: savings and the majority of Americans have little to no 303 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 4: investments right now, but half of America has zero investments. 304 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 4: And I'm talking about zero four to one k, zero iras, 305 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 4: zero stock market accounts, zero real estate investments, zero gold investments, nothing. 306 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 4: And then out of the next half of Americans that 307 00:15:22,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 4: have an investment, only half of those have an investment 308 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 4: outside of their four to one care ira. So you 309 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 4: have a very small percent, about a quarter of America 310 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 4: working America, that has any investments on their own. When 311 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 4: you go back to the saving and spending, we're in 312 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: a spending culture. America has a consumerism culture. And I 313 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 4: joke about this, but the way I like to say 314 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 4: it is Traditionally Indian people make a dollar to spend 315 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 4: twenty cents. American people make a dollar to spend two 316 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,040 Speaker 4: dollars thanks of the help of credit credit. This is 317 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 4: just the culture that we're in where it's very okay 318 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 4: and normalized to spend money even if you can't afford something, 319 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 4: you don't have it, and what are you doing, well, 320 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 4: you're spending all your money making everybody else around you rich, 321 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 4: but you yourself. You might look rich, but you're actually broke. 322 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 4: There's a reason why the owner and CEO of Louis 323 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 4: Vuton is the richest person in the world. Whereasus the 324 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 4: majority of people who wear Louis Vuitton are broke. The 325 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,480 Speaker 4: people who are wearing Louis Vuton are trying to look 326 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 4: rich And how are you doing that? Well, you're making 327 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 4: the owner of Louis Vuton rich by doing that. And 328 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: so this is where you got to understand. There's nothing 329 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 4: wrong with wearing designer stuff. There's nothing wrong with having 330 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 4: nice stuff. There's nothing wrong with wanting nice things, but 331 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 4: you have to be able to afford it. First, I 332 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 4: used to guest teach in Detroit public schools and when 333 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 4: I used to teach there, it's a rough school district. 334 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 4: I would talk to the kids about life, you know, 335 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 4: motivation and entrepreneurship and money and success. And one of 336 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 4: the things that I would ask is how many of 337 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 4: you have a job. Almost all of them raise their 338 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 4: hand saying that they had a job. My next follow 339 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 4: up question was how many of you have a bank account? 340 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 4: Nobody raised their hand, So I asked, you know what 341 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 4: you do with your paycheck. They said, well, we get 342 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 4: a physical check, then we go to the liquor store 343 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 4: where you get it cashed. The liquor store owner takes 344 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 4: one to ten percent. Then you buy pop, candy, bunch 345 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 4: of junk on the way out, and by the time 346 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 4: you're out of the store, you've already given away half 347 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: of your paycheck. I call it a net zero thinking, 348 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 4: where we think in terms of spending. If I have 349 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 4: a thousand dollars, I can go out and buy this handbag, 350 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 4: this nice thing. If I have ten grand, I can 351 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 4: go on this nice vocation. If I have fifty grand, 352 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 4: I can go on to buy this nice car. We 353 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:31,159 Speaker 4: think in terms of spending because we think if I 354 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 4: have this money, how can I spend it now? If 355 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 4: you break away from that and now you start creating 356 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 4: a buffer and you don't spend all of your money, 357 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 4: the next problem is we save our money. Because for me, 358 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 4: the only financial education that I was given was save 359 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 4: your money. Because if you're not spending it now, you 360 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: are building up a big bank account. And if you 361 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 4: have a big bank account, you'll be wealthy. But the 362 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 4: reality is you will never be able to become wealthy. 363 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 4: Through your savings. Your savings will never make you wealthy. 364 00:17:57,200 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 4: And if you don't believe me, I'll give you just 365 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 4: a mathematical term. Your savings right now are growing by 366 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 4: essentially nothing. Well, let's just say one percent, and I 367 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 4: being very very generous here. If your savings grow by 368 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 4: one percent and inflation is higher than one percent, and 369 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 4: we can see now inflation is extremely high. But even 370 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 4: before the twenty twenty pandemic, inflation was still higher than 371 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 4: one percent, we were two or three percent. Inflation means 372 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: that the value of your savings are dropping. So if 373 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 4: inflation is higher than your savings, that means that your 374 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 4: savings are losing value each and every day. Every day 375 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 4: that you save your money in the bank, you are 376 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: slowly becoming poorer each and every day, and most of 377 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 4: us never see it happen. Now, this doesn't mean you 378 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 4: shouldn't save any money. This just means you have to 379 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 4: understand how to save your money strategically, because wealthy people 380 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 4: do not want to save all their money. They want 381 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 4: to save their money for an emergency. They save their 382 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 4: money for an investment, or they save their money for 383 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: a big purchase. If it doesn't fall into one of 384 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 4: those three things, you don't want to save your money 385 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 4: because now you're saving money, your savings are just making 386 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 4: you poorer each and every day. This brings me to 387 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 4: then the second aspect, which is blindly following and trusting 388 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 4: the system. And this one was the most difficult one 389 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 4: for me because growing up, most of us, myself included al, 390 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:14,479 Speaker 4: was told that if you want to become successful, go 391 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 4: to school, get good grades, get a good job, climb 392 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: the corporate ladder. For me, it was go to school, 393 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,359 Speaker 4: get good grades, get into medical school, become a doctor. 394 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 4: I know you've heard several stories before. Yeah, that was 395 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 4: all that I was told. Since I was like a 396 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 4: little baby. My parents would tell everybody just but it 397 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 4: is going to become a doctor. He's going to go 398 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 4: out and do medicine, this and that, and that's what 399 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,639 Speaker 4: I was always told. And I was not really against 400 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,719 Speaker 4: it because I wanted to be successful. I saw how 401 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,399 Speaker 4: hard my parents worked since I was a kid. I 402 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 4: always wanted to give back, and I always assumed that, Okay, 403 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:48,160 Speaker 4: if I got good grades, I'll get into a good 404 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,040 Speaker 4: medical school. And if I do good in medical school, 405 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 4: I'll be able to get a good job as a doctor, 406 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 4: and if I get a good job as a doctor, 407 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 4: I'll be able to make more money. I thought it 408 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 4: was all just linearly corelling, your grades, your income, your grades, 409 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,959 Speaker 4: your success. I was one of the reasons why growing up, 410 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 4: anything that was not medical or academic related, it was 411 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 4: completely discouraged. And sometimes I think it's very difficult for 412 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: someone to understand what does it mean that, like, you know, 413 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:13,800 Speaker 4: your parents really wanted you to be a doctor, because 414 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 4: it wasn't like an option, like this was the only option. 415 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 4: And I think the best example that I can give 416 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 4: of that was when I was in eighth grade. I was, like, 417 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 4: you know, twelve years old. My parents got me a tutor, 418 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 4: not for the English class that I was on the 419 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 4: verge of failing, not for the other stuff that I 420 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 4: was studying for in eighth grade, but for the medical 421 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:33,359 Speaker 4: college admission test, the test you take in college to 422 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 4: get into medical school. My parents got me a tutor 423 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 4: for when I was in twelfth grade. We didn't spend 424 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 4: money on a lot of things. The only thing that 425 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,479 Speaker 4: parents were willing to spend money on were things related 426 00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:45,159 Speaker 4: to academics to get me into medical school. And so 427 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 4: here I'm in twelfth grade, I have an MCAT tutor 428 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: coming to my house and he's like, wait, this is 429 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 4: the kid that I'm teaching about medical school to get 430 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 4: him into medical school, And like, that's how strict it 431 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 4: was in my house. So I was checking all the boxes. 432 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 4: I was doing good in school, I was studying hard, 433 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 4: I was getting good grades. But then along the way, 434 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: I realized that something wasn't adding up. When I was 435 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 4: in high school, I was working at Indian weddings. I 436 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 4: was playing a drum called it Old, and I got 437 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,679 Speaker 4: to meet a lot of the local Indian DJs that 438 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 4: work in Indian weddings and we became friends. And they 439 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 4: would say, you know, you have a lot of friends 440 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,719 Speaker 4: in high school, how about we start hosting teen parties 441 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 4: in high school. Now I couldn't tell my parents this 442 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 4: because again, anything that's not you know, medicine related, going 443 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 4: to give me a medical school, I can't tell them. 444 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 4: So I would do this all on the side, even 445 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 4: going to work at weddings. I had to kind of 446 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 4: keep it all secret. And I was like, okay, let's 447 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 4: do it. You know, it was fun for me. So 448 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 4: I was sixteen years old and I started hosting these 449 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 4: teen parties at a local restaurant that just opened up 450 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 4: and they wanted some exposure, so they let us do it. 451 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 4: They're for free, and it was fun. But then I 452 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 4: was like, you know, I know this is a hobby. 453 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 4: I'm going to go to college and I'm going to 454 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 4: become a doctor and this is all going to become history. Well, 455 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 4: I go to college, I'm seventeen. I don't know what 456 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 4: to expect because my parents didn't go to universe here, 457 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 4: and I think that everybody goes to college, they spend 458 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 4: their Friday nights in the chemistry lab. They all want 459 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:06,720 Speaker 4: to become this big thing and they want to spend 460 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,120 Speaker 4: all their time studying in college. And I get there 461 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 4: and everybody is partying, drinking, blowing money they don't have 462 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: on all this stuff. Like I don't party, I don't drink, 463 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,919 Speaker 4: I never drink, I didn't smoke. So for me, it 464 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 4: was like a big shock and I was like, this 465 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 4: is weird, Like this is not what I expected. But 466 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 4: I still need something to do on Friday nights. So 467 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: that entrepreneur side of my brain kicked in again. It 468 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 4: was like, Oh, let's bring this party business back to college, 469 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 4: because that's all I knew so I was like, okay, 470 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: so I'm seventeen. I started knocking on the doors of 471 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 4: all the clubs, venues, bars, restaurants, asking them if I 472 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: can host party heres. And again, I'm not a party person. 473 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 4: I don't drink, I don't smoke. But this was the 474 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 4: only hustle that I knew, and you know, I just 475 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 4: didn't know much else. So eventually I found a club 476 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: that would work with me, and they didn't want to 477 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 4: charge me anything. They will let me work on it 478 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 4: essentially a commission basis that they'll take a percentage of 479 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 4: the red knew that I bring in, and I said, okay, 480 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 4: it doesn't cost me any money. Because I didn't have 481 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 4: a lot of money. I started hosting these parties, but 482 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 4: I still knew that this was just a hobby, something 483 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,040 Speaker 4: I'm doing because I was bored on weekends. Then I 484 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 4: started studying to go into medical school. And this is 485 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 4: where things really shifted because I had some cash saved 486 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 4: up in the bank. And now this is like the 487 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 4: bottom of the two thousand and eight crash because I 488 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 4: was in high school when the two thousand and eight 489 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 4: crash happened. Around twenty twelve, was when I was studying 490 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 4: for the MCAT. So real estate prices are at rock 491 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 4: bottom and the markets are still really shaky, and I'm 492 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 4: starting to study for the MCAT and I am bored 493 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 4: out of my mind trying to study for this because 494 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 4: I just wasn't very passionate about it. And so during 495 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 4: my breaks, I would read business books and I would 496 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,120 Speaker 4: go on the Yahoo Finance and I would study what's 497 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 4: going on to the markets, just for fun. And I 498 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 4: kept hearing about how real estate as I rock bottom 499 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: on the news, and the business books that I read 500 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 4: always said that wealthy people invested in real estate. I 501 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 4: had no idea what that meant. I didn't know any 502 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 4: really did investors. I didn't even know what real estate 503 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 4: investing was. I didn't have investor people in my family, 504 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 4: so I didn't know what that meant. So I was like, well, 505 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 4: if wealthy people invest in real estate, maybe I should 506 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:11,720 Speaker 4: invest in real estate. So I brought up the idea 507 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 4: to my dad. I was like, Dad, I want to 508 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 4: invest in real estate. He's like, shut up, you're stupid. 509 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 4: Go study and become a doctor. You can worry about 510 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 4: all this other stuff after you become a doctor. And 511 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 4: I was like, okay, now I just want to say, 512 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 4: you know, I love my dad to death. My parents 513 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 4: this was just all they knew. They didn't have that 514 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 4: financial education. But in the back of my mind, you 515 00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 4: I'm always like, yo, okay, what can I do? Maybe 516 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 4: I don't got to tell my parents. I'll just say 517 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 4: something else. I had a little bit of cash saved 518 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 4: up in the bank from the party business that I 519 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 4: was running, So I started looking at rental properties to buy, 520 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 4: and I found this small condo on sale for eighty 521 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 4: four hundred dollars. That was the price of the condo. 522 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: That's wow. 523 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 4: And that same condo a few years prior had sold 524 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 4: for one hundred and fifty grand. So the two thousand 525 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 4: and eight crash really decimated the real estate market in 526 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 4: Michigan because for Jim Chrysler were just hit so hard. 527 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 4: And so I was like, okay, well, this is not 528 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 4: a bad price. I can afford this. I made an 529 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 4: offer for four thousand dollars and it was in foreclosure. 530 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 4: The bank countered with seven thousand, and then I said, mmm, 531 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 4: how about we settle at six grand? And we were 532 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 4: trying to go back and forth, and then they said, well, 533 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,239 Speaker 4: we have another offer on the table. I didn't want 534 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 4: to lose this deal because I already looked at a few, 535 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 4: so I was like, okay, well I'll make an offer 536 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 4: for eight grand. So it was a bidding war. The 537 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 4: other person offered less than eight grand, so I got 538 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 4: the condo. So I got the conda for eight thousand dollars. 539 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 4: But a little bit of work into it, it was 540 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 4: in pretty good shape and I got it rented out 541 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 4: for six hundred dollars a month. Now, I'm nineteen years old, 542 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: and I had no idea what I was doing. But 543 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 4: all of a sudden, once I got it a little 544 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 4: bit figured out, I was like, wait, this condo is 545 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 4: paying me every single month, and I don't have to 546 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,159 Speaker 4: go and host a party. I don't got to go 547 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 4: to work. I was working at Auntienn's Pretzels a little 548 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 4: bit before that. As I don't got to flip pretzels, 549 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 4: I don't got a host's party, I don't got to 550 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 4: work at a wedding and it's paying me. Something doesn't 551 00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 4: make sense, Like how come I was never told about this. 552 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 4: I was doing good in school, like I thought I 553 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 4: was like smart. I thought I knew what I was doing. 554 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 4: Turns out that there's a whole world of financial education 555 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 4: that we're never taught. So now the traditional system is 556 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,680 Speaker 4: go to school, study hard, get good grades, get a 557 00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 4: good job, climb the corporate ladder. And now I'm starting 558 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 4: to realize, wait, there's a different system here than none 559 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 4: of us are ever taught, where the goal isn't to 560 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 4: just get a job and climb the corporate ladder. What 561 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,239 Speaker 4: wealthy people are doing is they're working to own the 562 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,679 Speaker 4: corporate ladder. And I was like, I didn't even know 563 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,720 Speaker 4: that you could do that, because now, if you can 564 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 4: own investments, if you can own assets, you own things 565 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 4: that are going to be paying you without you having 566 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 4: to physically work. And this is what wealthy people are 567 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 4: working for. Yet none of us are ever taught this. 568 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 4: None of us are ever taught in school. How do 569 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 4: you manage money? None of us are ever taught how 570 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 4: do you invest your money? None of us are ever 571 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: taught how do you build wealth? None of us are 572 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 4: ever taught how do you generate passive income? Yet wealthy 573 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 4: people are teaching their kids this and they're able to 574 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:04,359 Speaker 4: figure it out because they have that education. But for 575 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,400 Speaker 4: the majority of us, we're not taught this unless you're 576 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 4: willing to go out your way. Now YouTube has made 577 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 4: it a lot more accessible, thank god. Before YouTube, you 578 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 4: had to go out of the way to read books 579 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 4: and take classes, and it's tough. I mean, it's much 580 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 4: harder to read a three hundred page book than it 581 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 4: is to watch a ten minute YouTube video. Yeah, definitely, 582 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 4: So that was a big turning factor for me because 583 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,360 Speaker 4: that's when I started to realize that there's something different that. 584 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: You can do. 585 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,919 Speaker 4: So the second habit that we talk about, you know, 586 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 4: breaking away from that traditional system, asking the question why. 587 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 4: And then the third thing is understanding what money is. 588 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 4: And this is a very tough concept to understand. And 589 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 4: I guess the best example that I can give with 590 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: this is kind of going back to the traditional Indian 591 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 4: culture because in India, it's a very common thing that 592 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 4: when somebody has extra cash, extra rupees, they want to 593 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 4: convert these rupees to gold. It's why in India a 594 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 4: lot of gold is transacted during weddings, because they they 595 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 4: want to give money, and the way that they do 596 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 4: that is through gold. Because inherently, people understand that the 597 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,200 Speaker 4: rupee loses value, and I don't think that people understand 598 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 4: the why or the ins and out. It's just normal, 599 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 4: that's just the culture. So people take the cash and 600 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 4: they buy gold. And the reason why now we need 601 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 4: to understand this here in our culture is because when 602 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,440 Speaker 4: we think of money, there's two different aspects to it. 603 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 4: There's a currency, which means something that we use to 604 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 4: buy and sell things in exchange, and then there is 605 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 4: the store of value. And many of us assume that 606 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 4: our money is supposed to be a store of value, 607 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 4: is supposed to keep it's worth. But now, because of 608 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 4: the twenty twenty pandemic and the twenty twenty one inflation 609 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: and the twenty twenty two inflation, we're seeing that, oh 610 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 4: my god, my savings don't buy me as much. My 611 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 4: earnings are not stretching as far, and so we're starting 612 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 4: to really realize here that maybe my dollars don't hold 613 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 4: the same value. And so now it's understanding what is money. Well, 614 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 4: there's two aspects. You have the currency aspect to buy 615 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 4: and sell things, and then there's a store of value. 616 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 4: What wealthy people understand is that money doesn't act as 617 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 4: a very good store of value in today's day and age. 618 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 4: So you want to take your money and convert it 619 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 4: to something that is a store of value or maybe 620 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,160 Speaker 4: something that's actually going to produce you income. This is 621 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 4: like something that's so important for everyone to understand. And 622 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 4: what's interesting is my first video to go viral was 623 00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 4: back in twenty sixteen, and in that video on my 624 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 4: Minority Mindset channel. The reason why I think it when 625 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 4: viral was because I talked about this whole idea of 626 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 4: when you save all your cash in the bank, you're 627 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 4: becoming poorer each and every day because back then inflation 628 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 4: was between two and three percent, while your bank was 629 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 4: paying you half a percent. So I said was, look, 630 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 4: you're losing two to three percent of your cash's value 631 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 4: every single day, So you need to do something with 632 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 4: this money because your money is losing value. In ten years, 633 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 4: it's going to be worth less than it is today. Well, 634 00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 4: I didn't expect this twenty twenty pandemic to happen. I 635 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 4: and expect all this craziness to happen. But now here 636 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 4: we are with inflation is significantly higher than two to 637 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 4: three percent, and now people are really starting to understand 638 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 4: that whoa, what is my money? And you have to 639 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 4: be able to understand this because this is the driving 640 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 4: reason for why wealthy people don't want to save all 641 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 4: their extra cash. You want to put your cash to work, 642 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 4: which brings us now to the second side, Right, what 643 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 4: do wealthy people do well? The first thing you have 644 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 4: to understand how money plays a part in your life. 645 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 4: Like we discussed, right, how does money impact your life? 646 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 4: That way, you don't go out and just start chasing money, 647 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 4: because one of the things that I realized was I 648 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 4: started making way more money when I stopped chasing money. 649 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 4: Because when you're chasing money, you're chasing something that's illusory, 650 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 4: it's just fake, it's just it doesn't even feel good, 651 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 4: and you're not going to be able to put your 652 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 4: full self into it. But then the second thing on 653 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 4: the more financial side is what do you do with 654 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: that money? And one of the things that I realized 655 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 4: is what wealth people want is this thing called equity. 656 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 4: And this is where you have a lot of benefits 657 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 4: in America because you can't do this in a lot 658 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 4: of countries. See if you think about the traditional American dream, 659 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 4: which is changing now, but the traditional American dream was 660 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 4: you can work hard, buy a home, have a car. 661 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 4: But the whole idea of buying a home, the reason 662 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 4: why this was the American dream was because if you 663 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 4: can buy a home, you can work over the years 664 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 4: to pay it off, and now you have equity in 665 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 4: your home, and now you have the sort of generational 666 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 4: wealth that you can pass down you have an asset. Well, 667 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 4: the traditional American dream is now an American nightmare with 668 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:41,360 Speaker 4: the high cost of home ownership, with wages not keeping 669 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 4: up with the cost of living. However, that doesn't mean 670 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 4: that the American dream is dead. It's just changed. So 671 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 4: what is this new idea of the American dream. Well, 672 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 4: if you go back to the root core of equity, 673 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,239 Speaker 4: this is the real dream of wealth and something that 674 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 4: you can build for yourself, for your family and for 675 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 4: generations is if you have equity. Now, how do I 676 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 4: explain this, Well, if you think about any company, especially 677 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 4: in a bigger company, it's easy to understand there's two people, 678 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 4: two types of people that are involved. You have the 679 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 4: workers and you have the owners. The workers are working 680 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 4: for a salary. You go to work every single day, 681 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 4: you get a paycheck. You're getting a salary. The owners 682 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 4: of the company are not getting paid a salary. They're 683 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 4: getting paid in profits. They want the company to make 684 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 4: bigger profits so that they can make more money. Now, 685 00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 4: there is some overlap between the workers and the owners. 686 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 4: If you are a founder, you're probably an owner as well. 687 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 4: The CEO might have some ownership, and some newer companies 688 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 4: you'll give equity to the workers as well. But when 689 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 4: you have equity, you're getting the profits of a company. 690 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 4: Everybody in America, in this system, needs to be a 691 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 4: business owner if you want to become successful. Now, the 692 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 4: one thing that I want to caveat that with is 693 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 4: the majority of people should not to start a business 694 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 4: and the majority people should not try to operate a business. Now, 695 00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 4: you might say, dost Fleet, you just said everybody should 696 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: be a business owner. How does that make any sense. Well, 697 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 4: you can own a business without working for the business. 698 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 4: And now this is the question of what are you 699 00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:14,720 Speaker 4: doing with your salary. 700 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: Support for this podcast is brought to you by Walden University. 701 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: Ever catch yourself thinking what if I could go after 702 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: what I actually want and really make a difference. You're 703 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: not alone, and that's exactly why I want to tell 704 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: you about Walden University. 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Most people 714 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,759 Speaker 1: don't fail or fall behind because their intentions are bad. 715 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: They fail because they avoid risk. As Cody explains, our 716 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: culture dodges rejection and failure, but in doing so we 717 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 1: also dodge the chance to build lasting wealth. Cody's advice 718 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: is refreshingly practical. If you don't have money yet, your 719 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: first investment should be in yourself, your skills, your knowledge, 720 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 1: or resilience. The roadmap is clear. Invest in you start 721 00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: simple with diversified index funds, move into private investments when 722 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,880 Speaker 1: you're ready, and then build or buy a business of 723 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: your own. Through it all, remember to not chase Instagram wealth. 724 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: The real flex is peace of mind, freedom of time, 725 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: and knowing your money is working for you. Instead, of 726 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: the other way around. 727 00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 5: If you want to make a lot of money in business, 728 00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 5: you also need somebody who they call them the visionary, right, 729 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 5: the person who has all the ideas, the crazy things. 730 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 5: And then you have your executor, which is often called 731 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,840 Speaker 5: your implementer. And so if you only have vision but 732 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,760 Speaker 5: you have no execution, you will fail and make no money. 733 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 5: If you only have execution but you have no vision, 734 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 5: you will play small games for life. And so there's 735 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 5: a great book actually called Have you read How to 736 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 5: Make a Few Billion dollars? 737 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:38,080 Speaker 1: No, it's a good book. 738 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 5: It's by this guy, Brad Jacobs. If you can get 739 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 5: him on the podcast, I will listen. I've been trying to. 740 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's your style, but he's well, 741 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 5: actually he might be. He was like, he's a multi 742 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 5: billionaire hedge fund manager and private equity investor, and he 743 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 5: started off as a jazz musician and that was going 744 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,040 Speaker 5: to be his calling. So he really likes like dissonant 745 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 5: noises and like, how do you pull things together and 746 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,280 Speaker 5: sort of make them play as a musician. Mark anyway, 747 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,080 Speaker 5: he's bought all of these companies. He's massively successful. But 748 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 5: he always talks about what makes a great deal. If 749 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 5: you want to make a lot of money, you've got 750 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 5: to pick the right deal. And there's sort of four 751 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 5: types of deals. You can think about it like a quadrant. 752 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 5: You could have a low risk and you could also 753 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 5: have a low reward deal. That's actually most deals in life, right, 754 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 5: that's like stay in your same job, don't take risks, 755 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 5: et cetera. The problem is you're not going to make 756 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 5: much money. Then you have a high risk, high reward deal. Well, 757 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 5: that could be like investing in an El Salvadoranian power plant. Okay, 758 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 5: it's just so likely to fail that even though it's 759 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 5: super high profit, we probably want to stay away from those. 760 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,359 Speaker 5: And then you have sort of the golden child, which 761 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 5: is how can we have high reward low risk. Well, 762 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 5: not many of those exist, right, that would be a unicorn. 763 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 5: So what we're really looking for is where is there 764 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 5: a big, hairy problem that has the right amount of 765 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 5: risk and if we can find that, then we have profit. 766 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 5: And so now they call it hair on a deal. 767 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 5: That's like you know, investing in terms, you want to 768 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 5: look for those hairy deals where you think, oh, that 769 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 5: level of risk is manageable, and in our culture, for 770 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 5: some reason. I think we've gone into risk off. 771 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 772 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 5: God, we don't even want the risk of asking somebody 773 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 5: a question at a bar, you know, more or less 774 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 5: starting a business. And that's a problem. I mean, the 775 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 5: SBA has fascinating data. Do you know there are more 776 00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 5: small businesses that close each year than open in the US, 777 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,319 Speaker 5: no way more close than open. And so we have 778 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 5: people taking way less risk than we think, and that 779 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 5: means you'll never make as much money. That crazy. 780 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, let's talk about that in terms of investing. If 781 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,759 Speaker 1: someone's thinking that, because they cut exactly what you're talking 782 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 1: about right now, this risk reward profile. If someone has 783 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: never invested in anything, they're working their job, they've got 784 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 1: a little bit of money, maybe if they've got one 785 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,839 Speaker 1: thousand dollars to stop thinking about investing. Maybe they've got 786 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,839 Speaker 1: a bit more. Maybe they've been saving up and they're 787 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: thinking that home that they want to buy is a long, long, long, 788 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 1: long long way away. But they got a little bit. 789 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:06,719 Speaker 1: Where should they invest. 790 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,520 Speaker 5: If you have only a little bit of cash, the 791 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,799 Speaker 5: best returning asset class of all time, it's going to 792 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:15,040 Speaker 5: be you put the money into you learning first before 793 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 5: you go to invest. A lot of days. A lot 794 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,279 Speaker 5: of people these days will say, hey, it's Airbnb. Hey 795 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 5: it's buying small businesses. Hey it's real estate. The highest 796 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 5: performing asset class that you could ever have is you 797 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:28,560 Speaker 5: because you have unlimited upside and it compounds over time. 798 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,640 Speaker 5: And so if you don't have a lot of cash 799 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 5: right now, bet on you first, before you go bet 800 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:36,560 Speaker 5: on somebody in the SMP. Now after that next amount. 801 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,360 Speaker 5: I believe because I'm old school, I started at Vanguard. 802 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:43,040 Speaker 5: I believe if you're reasonable, you'd probably agree with me, Like, 803 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:44,719 Speaker 5: do we think that we're going to beat the best 804 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 5: stock pickers in the world who obsess on this every 805 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 5: single day? Are we going to beat the titans of 806 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 5: industry with their technology. 807 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:51,160 Speaker 1: No. 808 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,560 Speaker 5: So that's why I always go for low cost, low movement, 809 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 5: so they don't trade a lot index funds. I worked 810 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 5: at Vanguard. They have the best cost struct sure, so 811 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 5: I throw things in the S and P five hundred 812 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 5: in a diversified portfolio out of. 813 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: Cast someone that someone who's totally new to this. 814 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 5: You got a Vanguard dot com, you have no fees 815 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 5: on their training platform. In my opinion, avoid anything where 816 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,520 Speaker 5: you're buying individual stocks when you don't know unless you're 817 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,320 Speaker 5: doing it purely for learning and you're okay with losing everything, 818 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 5: and you go to Vanguard dot com and you select 819 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 5: a diversified portfolio. It's cool too because they'll actually help 820 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 5: you do it based on your age and based on 821 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 5: how much risk you want to take. So they'll have 822 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 5: a sixty forty portfolio, which is like sixty percent stocks 823 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 5: and forty percent bonds if you're our age, for instance, 824 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 5: if somebody's a little younger, they'll go eighty twenty because 825 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 5: you should take more risk with stocks when you're young. 826 00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 5: So you can literally in one click get a diversified portfolio, 827 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 5: and then you can add to it. You could also 828 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 5: use like a wealth front for that. 829 00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,440 Speaker 1: What's the divis portfolio? 830 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 5: For someone who doesn't know, that means that you you 831 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 5: never want to have all your eggs in one basket 832 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 5: and anything in life, but certainly in investing, and so 833 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 5: that means that they're going to give you stocks and bonds. 834 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 5: It means they're going to give you emerging markets versus 835 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 5: the US. So let's say India, China, Russia, Brazil, and 836 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 5: the US stock market, And it means that typically over time, 837 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 5: you know that there's these charts you can see in 838 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 5: finance where it kind of looks like it looks like 839 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 5: a grid, and on it are all of these different colors. 840 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 5: And what do all the coverers represent that have no 841 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 5: pattern to it? Every single year looks different. They represent 842 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 5: every asset class you could invest in, from bonds to stocks, 843 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 5: to Chilean stocks to short term money markets. And what 844 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 5: you see over time is in every single market, everything moves. 845 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,680 Speaker 5: And so what you want to have is a portfolio 846 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 5: that over time averages somewhere around ten percent. That's the 847 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 5: average cost of inflation. How your money really if you 848 00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,720 Speaker 5: don't invest it. Every single year that you don't invest, 849 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,439 Speaker 5: you lose money. Say you took a one hundred dollars 850 00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 5: bill right here, and I had it right in front 851 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,880 Speaker 5: of me, and I looked at that bill since the 852 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 5: beginning of the Federal Reserve, which is the government institute 853 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 5: that mandates or manages all of our currency in the US. 854 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 5: So if I go all the way back to the 855 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 5: seventies and I look at it today, what do I see? 856 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 5: I see that that one hundred dollars bill, if I 857 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 5: just held it from then to now, is worth about 858 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,560 Speaker 5: twenty five bucks. It's not worth a hundred anymore. Why 859 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 5: because of inflation. And so if we don't invest our 860 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 5: money and we stick it under our mattress, then sadly 861 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,080 Speaker 5: the government eats away at it every single year. Both 862 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,160 Speaker 5: sides politically agnostic, and so we got to make sure 863 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,280 Speaker 5: that we put our money somewhere. That's why the stock 864 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 5: market over time is usually what most people do. 865 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: Okay, it makes a lot of sense. And what's the 866 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:29,120 Speaker 1: difference between a stock and a bond? 867 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 5: Okay, so stocks and bonds one oh one. I think 868 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,320 Speaker 5: about stocks like a ability for you to have future 869 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 5: upside of a company. So you are betting in a 870 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,279 Speaker 5: way on a company. You're saying, today the price of 871 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 5: Amazon is ten dollars. I think in the future the 872 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 5: price of Amazon will be fifteen dollars. I want to 873 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 5: go for that ride. It's called upside return with a bond. 874 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 5: What are you doing instead? You're saying, I actually want income. 875 00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,240 Speaker 5: It's like a certificate. If I give you one hundred bucks, 876 00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,080 Speaker 5: I promise you over the next five years, I'm going 877 00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 5: to give you one hundred back. You're not going to 878 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 5: make more if the bond that you invest in goes 879 00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 5: up or down in price. You're just going to clip coupons, 880 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 5: is what they're called it. It used to be like that, 881 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 5: So you're clipping the coupon. And the reason we want 882 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 5: both of those is because again, you want when the 883 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,759 Speaker 5: stock market crashes, you want your bond to still be 884 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 5: clipping those coupons. Baby still coming in when the stock 885 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 5: market's raging. You want to capture some of that upside. 886 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 5: And that's how we play right there in the middle 887 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:28,280 Speaker 5: of investing. 888 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: Is there a stage three? So we did stage one 889 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 1: as you Stage two is SMP. What's the stage three? 890 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 5: Stage three is private? So if you're a real pro 891 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,800 Speaker 5: and you want to go for three h three of investing, 892 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 5: that's where we start to do private equity. That's just 893 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 5: investing in those same companies, but instead of them being 894 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 5: traded publicly, those companies are now held by private investors. 895 00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,920 Speaker 5: They'll never trade on a stock exchange. That also includes 896 00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,320 Speaker 5: things like you can have alternative investments that might be 897 00:42:56,440 --> 00:42:59,920 Speaker 5: investing in direct in real estate or investing in commodities, 898 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 5: which would be like timber. Right, you could bet on 899 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 5: timber prices that might be like equity and options. I 900 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 5: think this generation got a little crazy because they were 901 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 5: the first generation to gamify stock market investing and make 902 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 5: it seem fun as opposed to serious. And they were 903 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,880 Speaker 5: the first generation that got easy access to things like 904 00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 5: options and warrants. And that's really actually only for pros. 905 00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 5: So I think anybody who's trying to tell you how 906 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 5: to day trade, anybody who's trying to tell you how 907 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,520 Speaker 5: to do options that strategy, think about that like somebody 908 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,040 Speaker 5: trying to tell you, let me teach you, over the 909 00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,600 Speaker 5: course of a couple hours of me speaking to you, 910 00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,000 Speaker 5: how to cut open somebody's brain. We just wouldn't do that. 911 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 5: This is for pros. And if you really want to 912 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 5: make real money, you don't do it by messing around 913 00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,840 Speaker 5: at the margins of financial investing. In my mind, you 914 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 5: do it by becoming the company that they invest in, 915 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,520 Speaker 5: which is stage four. So that's when you're like, I 916 00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 5: buy the business outright, I raise money for my own business, 917 00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:57,919 Speaker 5: and that's the next level of the game. 918 00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,800 Speaker 1: That's so great. I love that by step because I 919 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: feel for so many people it just feels like this unorganized, messy, 920 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,480 Speaker 1: wild wild West. And now it's like wait a minute, 921 00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:11,120 Speaker 1: Stage one, Stage two, st stage four. I love those. 922 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: Going back to stage two of the S and P. 923 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: What percentage of someone's income should they be looking to 924 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: put into the S and P. 925 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 5: There's lots of rules around this, but I believe in 926 00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:25,359 Speaker 5: you pay yourself first, and you pay yourself first. What 927 00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:28,719 Speaker 5: I mean is you think about your investments just like 928 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 5: you would a need, not a want. So every single month. 929 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:35,040 Speaker 5: I believe in automatic investing. I've done it my entire career. 930 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 5: Vanguard taught me that you get really lucky in finance. 931 00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 5: They teach you how to invest so that it becomes 932 00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:42,960 Speaker 5: a habit, not a possibility. You don't wake up unless 933 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 5: you're gross and not brush your teeth, right, You just 934 00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 5: brush your teeth because you're not gross, And so for investing, 935 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 5: I think about it the same way. It's like you 936 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 5: automatically set up your payments, so a little bit goes 937 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,399 Speaker 5: every time. I believe you want to have at least 938 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,080 Speaker 5: ten percent of the money that you make go into investing. 939 00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 5: There's lots of different rules people could play either way, 940 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 5: but I think pay yourself first because otherwise you'll never 941 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 5: pay yourself at all, and give yourself at least ten 942 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,200 Speaker 5: percent because we want to beat inflation every single year, 943 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 5: and if you do those two things, you are better 944 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,360 Speaker 5: than about ninety percent of people that don't do that ten. 945 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: Percent off to tacks. That's just such a great goal 946 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,000 Speaker 1: of people. And you start thinking about it and you go, oh, 947 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: what am I spending dumb money on? You know, like 948 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: what do you see people wasting money on? You know what? 949 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,399 Speaker 5: The biggest thing is people waste money on looking rich 950 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,799 Speaker 5: instead of being rich. And that is a cultural phenomenon 951 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 5: that I think is eroding our wealth of society. I mean, 952 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 5: perfect example here Coachella. We know because we're on the 953 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 5: inside that the dirty secret of Coachella and everybody that 954 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 5: you see on there is that most influencers are one 955 00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,360 Speaker 5: paid to go, two give them free tickets, three flown 956 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 5: out for free for They actually have warehouses where you 957 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,239 Speaker 5: can pick out the clothes because that part's expensive, and 958 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,040 Speaker 5: you get the clothes for free, or if you're a 959 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 5: real pro, they'll pay you to wear the clothes and 960 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 5: give you the clothes for free. And so this entire 961 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,759 Speaker 5: experience for the few who become because we're all we 962 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,919 Speaker 5: just desire what other people have. That's how humans are. 963 00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 5: They're not paying anything for a thing that costs thousands 964 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 5: and thousands and thousands of thousands of dollars. Well, the 965 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 5: problem is is that the average Coachella main ticket holder, 966 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 5: about sixty four percent of them, couldn't afford their ticket, 967 00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 5: so they had to do buy now, pay later options. 968 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 5: This year they offered buy now, pay later. And that 969 00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,520 Speaker 5: is just for the ticket. That's not for the clothes, 970 00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,440 Speaker 5: and that's not for the food, and that's not for 971 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 5: the drinks. And so we are basically having credit card 972 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 5: debt with which lasts forever, as a trade for Instagram 973 00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:37,720 Speaker 5: posts which last for a minute. And so the number 974 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:39,760 Speaker 5: one thing that you can do to change your financial 975 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,320 Speaker 5: future is to not buy into what you see on 976 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,759 Speaker 5: the internet everybody else doing, which is why I really 977 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 5: respect what you do and I try to do it 978 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 5: online too. Sure we have nice things now sometimes you'll 979 00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,719 Speaker 5: catch it in places because I won't really tell. But 980 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 5: you don't see me flashing nice watches. You don't see 981 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 5: me having nice cars. You don't see me posting about 982 00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:01,440 Speaker 5: private planes. Why that's not really necessary. And all you 983 00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 5: are signaling is that that is what success is. That 984 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,760 Speaker 5: is not a success. It is those are just accoutromants 985 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 5: that could be fun if you're into it once you're rich, 986 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:13,640 Speaker 5: but I promise you I've met so many unhappy mothers 987 00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:14,640 Speaker 5: who have private jets. 988 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: Yeah no, And I really appreciate that you saying that, 989 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 1: because I think for me it was the same thing 990 00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 1: I didn't I never wanted. I mean, when I started, 991 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: I didn't have anything to show, but I didn't want 992 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: someone to follow me for what I had. I wanted 993 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:27,759 Speaker 1: them to follow me for what I was saying and 994 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: doing and living. And that to me always felt like 995 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,000 Speaker 1: that means anyone could do it and as soon as 996 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: it became. And also it was never about getting the thing, 997 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,960 Speaker 1: even for me. So if you make it about getting 998 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 1: the thing, then the thing you do to get it 999 00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,399 Speaker 1: you don't love. Whereas my thing is I love the game. 1000 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,360 Speaker 1: I love what I'm doing, and same as you. And 1001 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: it goes back to where we started, where it's like, 1002 00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,280 Speaker 1: if you love the game, if you respect the rules, 1003 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: if you love what you do, then all of these 1004 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 1: things are a byproduct. They're wonderful, but they're never the goal, 1005 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: they never the destination. They're never the thing that you wanted. 1006 00:47:58,239 --> 00:47:59,720 Speaker 1: That's not what drove you there. 1007 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 5: It's so true, and they'll all be taken from you 1008 00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,479 Speaker 5: at very points, you know, And so I think about 1009 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 5: it a little bit like beauty. 1010 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 1: You know. 1011 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,280 Speaker 5: I'm getting older, and I've tried to on the internet, 1012 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 5: never make it about how I look one way or 1013 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,799 Speaker 5: the other, if I'm fit or not, if I'm in 1014 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 5: sexy outfits or not. Why Because I'm going to get old. 1015 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 5: I know what the future looks like, and it's old 1016 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,799 Speaker 5: and wrinkly and saggotits and all the things right, and 1017 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,040 Speaker 5: that's cool. It doesn't matter. And so if I can 1018 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,600 Speaker 5: like prepare now that maybe people listen because I might 1019 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:29,160 Speaker 5: have something valuable to say, then I'll still have something 1020 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,960 Speaker 5: valuable to say when I'm eighty, as long as I'm 1021 00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,640 Speaker 5: still with it. And I think it's the same with stuff. 1022 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 5: You know, somebody could take that from you, but they 1023 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 5: cannot take ever. Nobody but God can take all the 1024 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 5: lessons that you've learned while running this business. Nobody but 1025 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 5: God could take the relationships that you've built from this business. 1026 00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,000 Speaker 5: But many things, including the market, could take everything that 1027 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,839 Speaker 5: sits around us. And so I try to remember that 1028 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 5: so that I never anchored to it. 1029 00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 1: Want to make a real difference this giving season this 1030 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: December on Purpose is part of PODS Fight Poverty podcast, 1031 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 1: teaming up to lift three villages in Rwanda out of 1032 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:20,880 Speaker 1: extreme poverty. We're doing it through give Directly, which sends 1033 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,239 Speaker 1: cash straight to families so they can choose what they 1034 00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: need most. Donate at GiveDirectly dot org, forward slash on purpose. 1035 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,560 Speaker 1: First time gifts are matched, doubling your impact. Our goal 1036 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:37,480 Speaker 1: is one million dollars by year's end, enough to lift 1037 00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:42,240 Speaker 1: seven hundred families out of poverty. Join us at GiveDirectly 1038 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:57,360 Speaker 1: dot org, forward slash on purpose. When Lewis Howes joined me, 1039 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,759 Speaker 1: he didn't talk about spreadsheets. He talked about it experiments. 1040 00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,239 Speaker 1: He challenged us to treat money like a relationship. Set 1041 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: an intention, stay open to possibility, and practice gratitude when 1042 00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,279 Speaker 1: it shows up, even if it's just a penny on 1043 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,080 Speaker 1: a subway step. He shares a simple practice, I'm a 1044 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,400 Speaker 1: magnet for money. Money comes to me abundantly and freely, 1045 00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,719 Speaker 1: not as magic thinking, but as a way to train 1046 00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:28,240 Speaker 1: your attention to notice opportunities, receive them, and act. Lewis's 1047 00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:32,520 Speaker 1: message is simple, treat money with respect, live beneath your means, 1048 00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:37,040 Speaker 1: and focus on really feeling abundant. That's true wealth set 1049 00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 1: intentions do the work and don't chase easy money, build skills, 1050 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:45,279 Speaker 1: serve others, and let effort compound. When you heal your 1051 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,279 Speaker 1: money wounds, you don't just attract opportunities, you're ready to 1052 00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 1: receive them. What do you have to say to people 1053 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:53,400 Speaker 1: who are saying that you can manifest money? Do you 1054 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: agree with that idea of This is an interesting story. 1055 00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,359 Speaker 6: I was in New York last week and I said 1056 00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 6: to myself, and I have a lot of these differents 1057 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,160 Speaker 6: exercises and games in the book to just give people 1058 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,239 Speaker 6: as social experiments. I think it's really powerful to give 1059 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 6: yourself experiment because I think when you experiment, you allow 1060 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:14,880 Speaker 6: yourself to explore possibilities. And when you create an experiment 1061 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 6: for yourself, you allow for the idea of magic to 1062 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 6: enter your life. So I want you to just as 1063 00:51:20,040 --> 00:51:22,640 Speaker 6: you're watching or listening, I want you to say, I 1064 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,239 Speaker 6: allow for magic and. 1065 00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:26,400 Speaker 2: Abundance to manifest in my life. 1066 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:29,719 Speaker 6: I'm going to create a possibility that this can happen 1067 00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:33,279 Speaker 6: in my life, a moment, a synchronicity. Someone might call 1068 00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:36,000 Speaker 6: me out of the blue, someone might hand me money randomly. 1069 00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:38,200 Speaker 6: I'm going to allow for this moment to happen in 1070 00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 6: this magic to happen. So I said to myself, I 1071 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,400 Speaker 6: want to follow my own practices right. And I went 1072 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,200 Speaker 6: to see our friend Mel Robbins in Boston, and I know, 1073 00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 6: I was in New York for a few days, and 1074 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,320 Speaker 6: I just said to myself, money comes to me abundantly 1075 00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 6: and freely, and I see it everywhere. I just said 1076 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 6: this to myself every morning when I woke up, and 1077 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 6: when I went out of the hotel, I said, money 1078 00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 6: comes to me abundantly and freely, and I see it 1079 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:03,640 Speaker 6: every way where. And I'm a magnet for money. I'm 1080 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,600 Speaker 6: a magnet for money. I just kept saying this energy, 1081 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 6: I'm a magnet for money. I was just playful, this 1082 00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,800 Speaker 6: social experiment. And when I was at Mels, a penny 1083 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 6: dropped on the floor. Someone was carrying a box and 1084 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:15,040 Speaker 6: a penny fell and I said, oh, look, money comes 1085 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 6: to me. I see it everywhere. There's a penny. Yeah, 1086 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 6: And there's a point to this story. And I pick 1087 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 6: it up and I say, Mel, do you want this? 1088 00:52:21,560 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 6: And she goes, no, it's yours, and I go, thank you. 1089 00:52:23,239 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 6: I receive because when I relax, I receive, and I'm 1090 00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 6: a magnet for money. Even it was a penny. I 1091 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,200 Speaker 6: could notice it, and I was like, all right, it 1092 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 6: came to me. See here's a win, here's a little win. 1093 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,239 Speaker 6: Let me do this again. The next day, I go 1094 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 6: to a New York city and I'm in the subway 1095 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 6: and it's freezing right now in New York, it's like 1096 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 6: fifteen degrees. And I'm just saying this to myself in 1097 00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 6: the subway, and I was like, get off the subway. 1098 00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 6: I go up the stairs and it's freaking filthy in 1099 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 6: the New York subway, right and the stairs are dirty, 1100 00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,040 Speaker 6: and I see a penny heads up, and I thought 1101 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 6: to myself, this is filthy, this is dirty. It's not valuable, 1102 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,359 Speaker 6: it's not enough money. I don't need to pick this up. 1103 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 6: But I was like, oh, I'm doing this experiment. Money 1104 00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,240 Speaker 6: comes to me abundantly and freely. I'm a magnet for money, 1105 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,839 Speaker 6: and I'm gonna manifest money, right And. 1106 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 2: So I see it's heads up. 1107 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,279 Speaker 6: I pick it up, put it in my pocket, and 1108 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 6: I just say, thank you, money for coming to me. 1109 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:13,479 Speaker 6: The next day, I put it in on my bedside table. 1110 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,080 Speaker 6: I don't think anything of it. The next day I 1111 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,919 Speaker 6: wake up and I look at this penny and I said, 1112 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,680 Speaker 6: because I'm doing this experiment every day, I'm a magnet 1113 00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,120 Speaker 6: for money. Money comes from me abundantly and freely. And 1114 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:27,160 Speaker 6: I look at it as a reminder. These two pennies. Look, 1115 00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 6: this is a reminder that money came to me. Maybe 1116 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:32,359 Speaker 6: it's not thousands of dollars or millions of dollars, it's 1117 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,400 Speaker 6: not something that's magically right here, but it's a reminder 1118 00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:36,680 Speaker 6: that something is possible. 1119 00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,319 Speaker 2: And I flipped over this one penn. 1120 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: No. 1121 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 6: I looked at the penny because it was heads up, 1122 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,640 Speaker 6: and I noticed something. I go, oh, that's really interesting. 1123 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 6: It said nineteen forty five on this penny. That's an 1124 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 6: eighty year old penny. And I go, huh, that's unique. 1125 00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,160 Speaker 6: I haven't seen a penny that old in a long time. 1126 00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,640 Speaker 6: And I flip it over and I noticed something and 1127 00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 6: I get chills thinking about it. I notice it's a 1128 00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:58,960 Speaker 6: wheat penny. I don't know if you know what a 1129 00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:02,600 Speaker 6: wheat penny is. So a wheat penny looks different than 1130 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,720 Speaker 6: a normal penny. It's got like two stalks of wheat 1131 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,800 Speaker 6: on the outside of the penny. It says old penny, 1132 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 6: and I look it up and I google nineteen forty 1133 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:16,880 Speaker 6: five wheat penny value and one just sold. 1134 00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:17,920 Speaker 2: I kid you not. 1135 00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,359 Speaker 6: I get chills thinking about it. One just sold. Guess 1136 00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 6: for how much? I have no idea four thousand dollars. 1137 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 6: No online one's sold for four thousand dollars. Now it's 1138 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:28,919 Speaker 6: all based on the condition and all these different things 1139 00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:31,759 Speaker 6: like who knows. Maybe it's worth twenty dollars, maybe it's 1140 00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,120 Speaker 6: worth five thousand dollars, maybe it's worth one hundred dollars. 1141 00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:37,920 Speaker 6: But the idea is that there was more value inside 1142 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 6: of that penny than what met the eye originally. And 1143 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 6: the experiment of let me be open to possibilities for 1144 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,400 Speaker 6: money to come to me, and what I thought was 1145 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:52,239 Speaker 6: two pennies might be two thousand dollars, and all I 1146 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 6: had to do was be willing to look for it, 1147 00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:57,320 Speaker 6: be willing to pick it up and say I receive 1148 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 6: thank you. If I didn't look for it, if if 1149 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,719 Speaker 6: I didn't set that intention, if I didn't see the 1150 00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,520 Speaker 6: possibilities in front of me, I may not have received 1151 00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 6: that penny that could have been worth thousands. And it's 1152 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 6: the same thing in life. We may not see the 1153 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 6: opportunity in front of us right now. We may not 1154 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,359 Speaker 6: reach out to the people we already know and say, hey, 1155 00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,600 Speaker 6: this is what I'm looking to create in my life. 1156 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 6: I have these skills, I have these talents. Is there 1157 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,200 Speaker 6: anything that you need right now that I can be 1158 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:25,680 Speaker 6: of service for you with? And that's for that first year. 1159 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,120 Speaker 6: How you created multiple six figures in that first year 1160 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 6: when you had nothing was reaching out to hundreds of people. 1161 00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,839 Speaker 6: That was you either setting the intention, seeing that there 1162 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,120 Speaker 6: might be possibilities, and doing the work to manifest hundreds 1163 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,360 Speaker 6: of thousands that first six months. So by doing that effort, 1164 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 6: setting the intention by saying I'm open to possibilities, I'm 1165 00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,840 Speaker 6: open to receiving opportunities that come to me, but I 1166 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:52,120 Speaker 6: have to be willing to look for them. 1167 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:53,560 Speaker 2: I have to be willing to ask for them. I 1168 00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:54,200 Speaker 2: have to be willing to. 1169 00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 6: Put myself out there and receive and say, yes, thank you, 1170 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 6: I would do this work. And that's what I think 1171 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 6: people need to be thinking about. Can you manifest millions? Yes, 1172 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,160 Speaker 6: if you're willing to set a clear intention, if you're 1173 00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,560 Speaker 6: willing to reach out and say here's what I'm willing 1174 00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 6: to offer and add value in I want to help 1175 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,800 Speaker 6: you achieve these goals, you're creating more potential to manifest money. 1176 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:17,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that Penny story because I'll tell you 1177 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: a bit about what I do, and I do a 1178 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,560 Speaker 1: similar thing, and it comes from my tradition. 1179 00:56:21,680 --> 00:56:23,000 Speaker 2: So do you have a money mantra? 1180 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: No, I we don't say something, but I'll tell you 1181 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:29,000 Speaker 1: about it. Yeah. So there's a So in our tradition, 1182 00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: there's a god or a goddess for each aspect of 1183 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,560 Speaker 1: society money. And so there is god as in there's 1184 00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,520 Speaker 1: there's one god, but then there's loads of different gods 1185 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,719 Speaker 1: for different departments of society, kind of like you have 1186 00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 1: a president or a prime minister, and then you have 1187 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: like the cabinet and that who's the money god. So 1188 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,759 Speaker 1: it's a goddess called Luxhmi. That's lush me, yeah, and 1189 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,360 Speaker 1: lux me means wealth or fortune. 1190 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 2: It's like luxury almost luxury. 1191 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:55,880 Speaker 1: Maybe that's where it comes from, that luxury is the 1192 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 1: goddess of fortune or the goddess of wealth. And so 1193 00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,480 Speaker 1: you would never ever put your foot on a goddess. 1194 00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:06,160 Speaker 1: So whenever you're walking the streets and you see pennies around, 1195 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:08,760 Speaker 1: you're never meant to just walk past them. You actually 1196 00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:10,239 Speaker 1: meant to pick them up. And put them to your head. 1197 00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 1: So that's kind of like part of our culture. And 1198 00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 1: so whenever I'm walking around the streets of New York 1199 00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: or La wherever I am or subways, I do the 1200 00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: same thing. Interesting, I'll always pick it up. And it's 1201 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:20,200 Speaker 1: really funny because someone who's with me will be like, 1202 00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: what are you doing, Like, you know, like, why are 1203 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: you doing that? I'm like, because I'm showing respect. I'm 1204 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,600 Speaker 1: actually showing respect to the goddess of fortunes. And so 1205 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 1: that's what it is, is like I'm showing respect to 1206 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,840 Speaker 1: the goddess of fortune by picking it up and usually 1207 00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:34,960 Speaker 1: give that money to charity or whatever it may be. 1208 00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 1: It's not it's not you're trying to keep on it. 1209 00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 1: You may give it away whatever. But the point is 1210 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,360 Speaker 1: you're saying, I'm not disrespecting the goddess of fortune wherever 1211 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: I see it. That's beautiful because I want to have 1212 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 1: a respectful relationship with money. I actually really love practices 1213 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 1: like that because I think it goes back to the 1214 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 1: point you're making that we have a relationship with everything. 1215 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: You have a relationship with your body, you have relationship 1216 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: with your mind, you have a relationship with your partner, 1217 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: and you have a relationship with money, and just speaking 1218 00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 1: to money and speaking about money is something you have 1219 00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,760 Speaker 1: to do if you want to love that thing and 1220 00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:10,520 Speaker 1: you want it to love you back. Right, If you 1221 00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:12,800 Speaker 1: never talk about your partner, and you never talk to 1222 00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:14,760 Speaker 1: your partner, how are they going to love you? And 1223 00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:15,560 Speaker 1: how are you going to love this? 1224 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 2: Imagine you're roddy for the next month. 1225 00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 6: You never say thank you, You never look her in 1226 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,120 Speaker 6: the eyes, you never speak to her, you avoid her constantly. 1227 00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:26,960 Speaker 6: Imagine like your relationship's going to suffer. You know, I'm 1228 00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:29,480 Speaker 6: sure you guys will figure it out, but imagine that's 1229 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 6: a lifetime of a relationship. It cannot survive. And here's 1230 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,240 Speaker 6: a great question that I want everyone to ask themselves 1231 00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,400 Speaker 6: and another exercise that I want everyone to think about 1232 00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 6: right now, whether you're watching or listening, I want you 1233 00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:45,360 Speaker 6: to comment on the YouTube below what opened up for 1234 00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,600 Speaker 6: you during this moment. And I'm going to give you 1235 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,520 Speaker 6: the exercise Jay. So imagine this door opens and it's 1236 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:57,200 Speaker 6: a person, and this person is money. It's the idea 1237 00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,640 Speaker 6: of money. It's a person that walks in. Right, there's money. 1238 00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:06,680 Speaker 6: And could you as an example for people to imagine 1239 00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 6: this as well. What does that person look like when 1240 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 6: they come in? 1241 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,400 Speaker 2: What would you do? What would you say or not say? 1242 00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 2: Could you? 1243 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 6: Could you share kind of what that would be like 1244 00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:19,919 Speaker 6: for you? Money, a person walks in, they are money, 1245 00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,640 Speaker 6: They're the representation of your relationship with money. 1246 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,400 Speaker 2: How would you show up and react? 1247 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:27,080 Speaker 1: So in our culture, because it would be luxury walking. 1248 00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 1: And I'll show you a visual of her afterwards. You 1249 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 1: would actually bow down like you'd have that and that's 1250 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:36,120 Speaker 1: a sign of respect, not a sign of surrender or subjugation, 1251 00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:39,320 Speaker 1: but a sign of respect. Like you'd bow you'd offer 1252 00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,840 Speaker 1: her whatever she wanted, like you'd be like, what what 1253 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 1: do you need? Like, what would you like? 1254 00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 2: What would you. 1255 00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: Would you like? A place to sit, kind of like 1256 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,560 Speaker 1: a guest in your like a generous home. You see 1257 00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 1: them like a guest in your home? Yeah, like what 1258 00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,520 Speaker 1: would you like? Can you can I get you somebody 1259 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:54,360 Speaker 1: to drink? You know, whatever it may be. Obviously she's 1260 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,120 Speaker 1: a gredss, she don't need anything, But the point is 1261 00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,360 Speaker 1: that's how the hospitality would still be carried through. 1262 00:59:59,480 --> 00:59:59,959 Speaker 2: That's cool. 1263 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,480 Speaker 1: And then you'd denka as well, like you'd start every 1264 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: connection with the godd or goddess with gratitudes, and I'd 1265 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: be like a genuine appreciation and an ability to share 1266 01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:14,919 Speaker 1: how you feel, like I think, being vulnerable and saying hey, 1267 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 1: like it's been really tough this month, like I'm really 1268 01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:19,520 Speaker 1: struggling right now, like this is what I'm going through. 1269 01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:21,600 Speaker 1: I need your help, like a prayer. 1270 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,760 Speaker 6: Almost interesting, that's beautiful, And I asked I've been asking 1271 01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:27,200 Speaker 6: a lot of people this, and so I love to 1272 01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 6: hear people's responses and be honest. And the YouTube comments 1273 01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:33,960 Speaker 6: below of your relationship with money, I asked someone close 1274 01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 6: to me, someone younger, probably in their late twenties. I 1275 01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 6: asked them, you know, if money walked in and you 1276 01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,240 Speaker 6: were at a party, how would you respond? And they said, 1277 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,880 Speaker 6: I would run to the bar, I would not make 1278 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:49,160 Speaker 6: eye contact. I would gossip behind their back to other 1279 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:52,320 Speaker 6: people there about money. I would look down at them, 1280 01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 6: but then I would use them and abuse them because 1281 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,960 Speaker 6: I would really need money, and I would ghost them afterwards. 1282 01:00:58,320 --> 01:01:00,920 Speaker 6: And I go and I go wow, And they were like, yeah, 1283 01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 6: I know it's really bad, but they're being honest. So 1284 01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,240 Speaker 6: I want people to be honest, like what is your 1285 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 6: relationship with money? And just imagine if you were money 1286 01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 6: and someone treated you that way if they wanted to 1287 01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 6: look at you, They avoid you, they speak poorly behind 1288 01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:16,040 Speaker 6: your back. They were using and abuse you when they 1289 01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:18,760 Speaker 6: wanted you, and then they ghost you when they didn't 1290 01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,000 Speaker 6: want to talk to you. Do you think money would 1291 01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,800 Speaker 6: want to keep showing me up in your life if 1292 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:25,200 Speaker 6: they were a person, If they were a person, would 1293 01:01:25,200 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 6: they want to be in your life? Or they feel, Ah, 1294 01:01:28,160 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 6: this isn't a good relationship for me. And your show 1295 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,720 Speaker 6: is all about how people get healed, healthy and whole. 1296 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 6: And if you want to create a richer, more abundant life, 1297 01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:40,439 Speaker 6: you have to create a healthy relationship with money in 1298 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 6: your life. And look at it as if this was 1299 01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,240 Speaker 6: a love of my life, not in a worshiping like 1300 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,080 Speaker 6: I worship it no matter what, but more of like 1301 01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,280 Speaker 6: this is like a person that I love and I 1302 01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,280 Speaker 6: want to treat them with care. 1303 01:01:54,680 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 2: I want to be a great host. How can I 1304 01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:57,640 Speaker 2: show up? 1305 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,000 Speaker 6: And it doesn't mean it's always going to be perfec 1306 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,640 Speaker 6: but how can I show up and be generous, be kind, 1307 01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:07,800 Speaker 6: be patient, listen, be aware and be of service to it. 1308 01:02:08,080 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't make a huge difference, huge difference. 1309 01:02:10,360 --> 01:02:13,760 Speaker 6: I'm not saying you haven't had a beautiful, abundant, peaceful 1310 01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,480 Speaker 6: life as well with money. But I would bet to 1311 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 6: say that you've also experienced stress and overwhelmed with money, 1312 01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,360 Speaker 6: for sure, more than having no money. And a lot 1313 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,280 Speaker 6: of people get blocked because they know that like, oh, 1314 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 6: more money, more problems. Is another like money lie right, 1315 01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,840 Speaker 6: or a money like wound that people might have, Like 1316 01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 6: I don't want to make more money because I see 1317 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 6: people who do have money, they're constantly stressed. They're not 1318 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,600 Speaker 6: generous with it. They're stingy, they don't even tip it all. 1319 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 6: They're even more stingy with it and they have it, 1320 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,000 Speaker 6: So what's the point of having it if they're not generous. 1321 01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,840 Speaker 6: I don't want to be like that. And there can 1322 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 6: be money traps or money wounds when you have money 1323 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:52,080 Speaker 6: if you haven't learned how to heal that relationship. And 1324 01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,280 Speaker 6: so it's learning how to heal the rag relationship so 1325 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 6: that when you grow your net worth, you also increase 1326 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 6: your self worth inside and feel peaceful about it. You 1327 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:08,000 Speaker 6: expand your nervous system, your container to receive abundantly, so 1328 01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 6: it's not scary, it's not stressful. You can receive more 1329 01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 6: and you can give more because you know that the 1330 01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,560 Speaker 6: more you relax, the more you receive, and when you give, 1331 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,480 Speaker 6: it's going to come back in some way. I struggled 1332 01:03:19,480 --> 01:03:22,560 Speaker 6: with that my first six, seven, eight years of making money. 1333 01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,320 Speaker 6: I hoarded money because I was afraid to go broke again, 1334 01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 6: and it limited me in certain ways, and it made 1335 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:30,200 Speaker 6: me feel stressful, and it made me feel like people 1336 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,080 Speaker 6: are trying to take advantage of me and take my money. 1337 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:37,360 Speaker 6: It doesn't feel rich having money and living in scarcity. 1338 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:41,120 Speaker 1: Still, there was a beautiful thing that we'd always repeat 1339 01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 1: in the monastery. It was like God doesn't see what 1340 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,720 Speaker 1: you give, God sees what you hold back. And so 1341 01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: this because we can sometimes become egotistical about how much 1342 01:03:50,680 --> 01:03:52,760 Speaker 1: we give, and it's like, well, you got one hand 1343 01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: behind your back and you just made that point. It's 1344 01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,720 Speaker 1: that it's that pinch, It's that are you giving where 1345 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: there's a challenge to give? Yeah, because that's where we're healing. 1346 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: Because you can get really egotistical, like, hey, if you 1347 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,439 Speaker 1: were worth a billion and you signed a million dollar check, 1348 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,200 Speaker 1: like I know people that are making three million in 1349 01:04:10,200 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: interest a day, like, so you writing a million dollar 1350 01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,680 Speaker 1: check is not the same. This also applies when you 1351 01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,280 Speaker 1: have very little. So my parents, who didn't make a lot, 1352 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,560 Speaker 1: when they were giving and felt well like a lot. 1353 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,880 Speaker 1: It felt like a lot. And so like what we're 1354 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,240 Speaker 1: saying is that that this thought of being a giver 1355 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:30,200 Speaker 1: has to be called to us. 1356 01:04:30,440 --> 01:04:32,160 Speaker 6: You know, my dad was a lot like that too. 1357 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,680 Speaker 6: He had strangers knocking on the door that somehow convinced 1358 01:04:35,720 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 6: him to stay with us for like three months in 1359 01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 6: the summer who were ah, and he just opened his 1360 01:04:41,880 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 6: doors and said yes, like okay. And so he was 1361 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,080 Speaker 6: just like like your parents, like okay, you need a 1362 01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,800 Speaker 6: place to stay for a week, a month, two months. 1363 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 2: Cool, we'll figure it out. 1364 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:51,480 Speaker 6: We'll feed you, We'll do this as long as we 1365 01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:53,400 Speaker 6: feel like you're doing something good and we're trying to 1366 01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,880 Speaker 6: support you. And I think it's it don't have to 1367 01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:58,360 Speaker 6: give money to feel rich. Yes, you can be vanity, 1368 01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:01,400 Speaker 6: your generous with your time, with your or resources in 1369 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,720 Speaker 6: other ways, with your food. It's like you can give 1370 01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,480 Speaker 6: in other ways and create a richness of life. And 1371 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 6: that's the key is to feel rich and abundant and free. 1372 01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:15,760 Speaker 6: And if you feel that, when you start making money, 1373 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:18,960 Speaker 6: you're going to continue to feel free. The biggest trap 1374 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:22,600 Speaker 6: is when you feel scarce and you start making money 1375 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,280 Speaker 6: and you still feel trapped, you still don't feel free. 1376 01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 6: That isn't even greater prison in my mind, that you're 1377 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,600 Speaker 6: living in scarcity when you have money. 1378 01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many people right now that have 1379 01:05:33,560 --> 01:05:36,200 Speaker 1: the pressure to save money because we've been talking about 1380 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:38,680 Speaker 1: making money, yes, but there's this pressure to save money. 1381 01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,720 Speaker 1: And how do you find that balance between spending comfortably 1382 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,760 Speaker 1: if you have the ability, versus like saving for your 1383 01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:48,720 Speaker 1: future or your family. How do you think about that version? 1384 01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:51,240 Speaker 6: Well, I think when you can live beneath your means 1385 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,400 Speaker 6: and feel abundant, you've won. So when you live beneath 1386 01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 6: your means and you don't need extra stuff, you've won. 1387 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:03,120 Speaker 6: I just watched The Count of Monte Cristo the other nights. 1388 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 6: It's an incredible movie of a guy who has nothing, 1389 01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:09,560 Speaker 6: who was born by, you know, back in the I 1390 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:11,920 Speaker 6: don't know, seventeen hundreds or something at a period piece. 1391 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 6: He was born of like a clerk, a guy who 1392 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 6: makes no money, and his friend was born of like 1393 01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,520 Speaker 6: some general who had a lot of money or something. 1394 01:06:21,240 --> 01:06:25,680 Speaker 6: And this poor kid that grew up friends didn't have anything, 1395 01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:29,920 Speaker 6: but he had the world. He had no money, no possessions, 1396 01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:33,000 Speaker 6: but he just approached life was like man, but here's 1397 01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:35,040 Speaker 6: a piece of string, here's a rock that I can 1398 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:37,840 Speaker 6: play with, like I can just imagine the beauty of 1399 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:41,160 Speaker 6: the world. And he appreciated everything even though he had 1400 01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:44,760 Speaker 6: no money. And I think in some ways it's so 1401 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,040 Speaker 6: hard to look at that when we see Instagram and 1402 01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:51,120 Speaker 6: TikTok where everyone has things. When you see everyone else 1403 01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:53,800 Speaker 6: having fun with money and going on that trip with 1404 01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:57,120 Speaker 6: their girlfriends, or buying that expensive car to show after 1405 01:06:57,160 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 6: their guy friends, or getting the nice watches, or or 1406 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,600 Speaker 6: having the cool shoes, and you're thinking, oh, if I 1407 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:04,959 Speaker 6: could really have money, then I could have these things 1408 01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,080 Speaker 6: that would make me feel cool or feel better. But 1409 01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,640 Speaker 6: if we can approach life and just be like man, 1410 01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:14,920 Speaker 6: life is so good with what I have. That is 1411 01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 6: true wealth, That is true abundance and happiness. And it 1412 01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 6: doesn't mean you shouldn't strive to create more. If you 1413 01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:22,640 Speaker 6: want more, if you want to have nice shoes or 1414 01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:25,040 Speaker 6: a nice watch cool, you've got to learn how to 1415 01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:26,840 Speaker 6: make money. And you want to learn how to make 1416 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 6: money easy, not make money hard. And that is a 1417 01:07:30,400 --> 01:07:33,680 Speaker 6: process in developing these skills, these talents within you and 1418 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:37,240 Speaker 6: seeing how you can monetize those skills. And I'm not 1419 01:07:37,280 --> 01:07:39,640 Speaker 6: saying don't splurge on certain things if you want to, 1420 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,960 Speaker 6: but you have to understand the consequences. If you're going 1421 01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:46,040 Speaker 6: to splurge on something to have fun with friends or 1422 01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 6: go on trips and spend this money that you maybe 1423 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,800 Speaker 6: don't have, just know there might be a consequence to 1424 01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,240 Speaker 6: that later. If you have to use a credit card, 1425 01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,480 Speaker 6: you have to pay that debt with interest later. So 1426 01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,360 Speaker 6: just know there's a cost to splurging or spending when 1427 01:08:02,360 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 6: you don't have it. I'm a big fan of saving 1428 01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:09,920 Speaker 6: and investing so that you can have freedom in the 1429 01:08:09,960 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 6: future and feel rich continually and not needing to buy 1430 01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 6: things to feel richer. 1431 01:08:15,960 --> 01:08:18,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, what about this idea of I want to make 1432 01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 1: money quick, Like I just want to make a million 1433 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 1: dollars in a week. I want to find that hack 1434 01:08:23,520 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 1: that solves my money problems. Like, what's your take on that? 1435 01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:27,120 Speaker 1: Is that possible? 1436 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,280 Speaker 6: I've got money wounds and it's because I wanted to 1437 01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,839 Speaker 6: make easy money in my past, not make money easy. 1438 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:37,280 Speaker 6: And I don't know anyone that doesn't want to make 1439 01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:40,680 Speaker 6: easy money like our ego wants it to come to 1440 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:42,679 Speaker 6: us now, and I want to find the quick hack 1441 01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 6: or the quick investment that's got a ten x in 1442 01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 6: two months. Sure, there's always outliers that figure out a 1443 01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,160 Speaker 6: way to do that, but every time I've tried to 1444 01:08:51,200 --> 01:08:53,880 Speaker 6: do that, I've lost my money and it's been painful, 1445 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,080 Speaker 6: and I'm like, Okay, I think I've learned that lesson, 1446 01:08:56,120 --> 01:09:00,280 Speaker 6: But there's this new quick, easy money opportunity, and every 1447 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:01,519 Speaker 6: time I do it again, I'm. 1448 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:02,559 Speaker 2: Like, what was I thinking? 1449 01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:06,120 Speaker 6: You see that Others act like there's a way to 1450 01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,719 Speaker 6: do it so easy. If you just invest in crypto, 1451 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:10,720 Speaker 6: if you just invest in this, if you just do 1452 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:12,479 Speaker 6: this thing, you're gonna make quick. 1453 01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:13,080 Speaker 2: And easy money. 1454 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,000 Speaker 6: I don't know anyone who's made hundreds of millions, millions, 1455 01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,240 Speaker 6: or billions. 1456 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:19,240 Speaker 2: Who's lived that way. 1457 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 6: They might have invested and gone all in on one 1458 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 6: business and created generational wealth, or maybe they went all 1459 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 6: in on investing in one main stock that ended up 1460 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 6: ten or twenty xing over time, but going to quick 1461 01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:38,960 Speaker 6: make easy money way doesn't usually work, and it's painful 1462 01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:40,760 Speaker 6: lessons you have to live afterwards. 1463 01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 1: True financial freedom starts with intention, not willpower. You can't 1464 01:09:44,439 --> 01:09:47,040 Speaker 1: invest what you don't earn, and you can't grow what 1465 01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:50,800 Speaker 1: you don't plan. Real wealth isn't in cause or vacations. 1466 01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,880 Speaker 1: It's in building a life where the rest comes without fear. 1467 01:09:54,600 --> 01:09:57,639 Speaker 1: Get clear on your goals, build systems to support them, 1468 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:02,040 Speaker 1: and let learning guide you. Financial piece isn't luck. It's 1469 01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:05,559 Speaker 1: the result of choices repeated over time. And if this 1470 01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:09,080 Speaker 1: episode helped you rethink your relationship with money, share it 1471 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 1: with someone who's ready to start building wealth with intention 1472 01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:15,040 Speaker 1: and strategy from the inside out. If this is the 1473 01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,760 Speaker 1: year that you're trying to get creative, you're trying to 1474 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,479 Speaker 1: build more, I need you to listen to this episode 1475 01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,519 Speaker 1: with Rick Rubin on how to break into your most 1476 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:28,040 Speaker 1: creative self, how to use unconventional methods that lead to success, 1477 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,840 Speaker 1: and the secret to genuinely loving what you do. If 1478 01:10:31,880 --> 01:10:34,880 Speaker 1: you're trying to find your passion and your lane, Rick 1479 01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:36,800 Speaker 1: Rubin's episode is the one for you. 1480 01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,639 Speaker 5: Just because I like it, that doesn't give it any value, 1481 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,240 Speaker 5: like as an artist, If you like it, that's all 1482 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 5: of the value. 1483 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:46,760 Speaker 3: That's the success comes when you say I like this 1484 01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,439 Speaker 3: enough for other people to see it.