Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Hell that for me, I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State? Is that woo woom? And Dan
Speaker 1: and Tye.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Verbal boys and girls. My
Speaker 2: name is ty Hildebrand. His name is Dan Rubinstein. Solid
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Speaker 2: Sir mister Rubinstein, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good. I am currently looking at the college football
Speaker 1: subreddit on reddit dot com, which is one of the
Speaker 1: two subreddits I look at. It's this in the pizza one,
Speaker 1: which I'm now posting on. By the way, Oh, you've
Speaker 1: made it to the to the posting state. Okay, oh
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, absolutely, I have it. It doesn't look like
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of news to talk about. Michigan loses
Speaker 1: Giles Jackson, who is sort of there speedy all purpose
Speaker 1: weapon a lot of reverses, was a promising receiver, so
Speaker 1: he looks like he's in the transfer portal. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of current stuff to
Speaker 1: talk about unless you want to get into Murray State,
Speaker 1: Eastern Illinois, Tennessee State, UT Martin. I'm okay, Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 1: I think I'm I think I'm good. Actually, yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: glad the kids are playing football, he says, as an
Speaker 1: ancient human. But no, I mean, aside from there's some
Speaker 1: recruiting news. I saw. I think Miami got a blue
Speaker 1: chip quarterback, Arkansas got a top tier safety. It's it's March.
Speaker 1: There's nothing too much we can talk about right now.
Speaker 1: I guess quarterback recruiting is somewhat interesting because that's where
Speaker 1: the dominoes tend to fall pretty far ahead of signing day.
Speaker 1: But I'm all right, and I'm very excited for today's show.
Speaker 1: And I also have early reviews of YouTube coaching clinic speeches.
Speaker 2: YouTube coaches clinic speeches. Okay, yeah, if you look for
Speaker 2: coaches you enjoy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, head coat coaches, sometimes coordinators. There's a good chance
Speaker 1: that a video of them giving a coaching clinic is
Speaker 1: on YouTube. And I watched Kirby Smart, I watched Lincoln Riley,
Speaker 1: I've watched Sark There's a number i've watched Nick Saban.
Speaker 1: There's a number of really good ones you can watch,
Speaker 1: and they're like an hour long, and you get a
Speaker 1: who's cheek inside her head?
Speaker 2: Let's let's stay here for a second because he's not
Speaker 2: sending me these links and I've been watching. I think
Speaker 2: I watched the Sark once he sent over who is
Speaker 2: the best that you've watched? Just from an entertainment standpoint.
Speaker 1: I saw Chip Kelly want a long time ago. That
Speaker 1: was really good. I think it was at an old
Speaker 1: Nike clinic because he was so plain and direct and
Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, this is what he runs, this
Speaker 1: is what I run, and this is how we just
Speaker 1: f up teams with it. It's not that difficulty. He
Speaker 1: was just very frank and that was a fun watch.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the Sark one, which I had sent to you, Reese.
Speaker 1: Sark was good. Yeah. The thing so it's college coaches
Speaker 1: reviewing their offenses or defenses or philosophies about coaching in
Speaker 1: general to a room packed full of there are smaller
Speaker 1: school like smaller level college coaches or a lot of
Speaker 1: high school coaches. I think is the target audience. It's
Speaker 1: about coaching development. It's a coaching ted talk is what
Speaker 1: it is. It totally is, and it's also I mean,
Speaker 1: it's good for high school coaches to learn from these
Speaker 1: guys who have succeeded and also to network because, as
Speaker 1: we know, a number of prominent head coaches and coordinators
Speaker 1: have come from the high school ranks up. It's not
Speaker 1: always just guys starting out as low level college guys
Speaker 1: and working their way up. A lot of time it's
Speaker 1: you know, Art Briles and Gus Malsan and Chad Morris,
Speaker 1: guys like that. So though it's fascinating to watch, they
Speaker 1: all start out the same way, which is complementing the
Speaker 1: hell out of the coaches. You guys are doing the
Speaker 1: real work. That's right. You guys are the fronkbone of
Speaker 1: this sport. Yes, so I've been watching some of that,
Speaker 1: but really there isn't a ton to talk about. We've
Speaker 1: had some. I saw some Pac twelve schools are wrapping
Speaker 1: up spring practice. I think Oregon starts in a week
Speaker 1: or two, so not too much. I'm excited to see,
Speaker 1: not excited, but eager to see what the transfer portal
Speaker 1: looks like after the spring season.
Speaker 2: Well, on today's show, we're going to do something that
Speaker 2: we've wanted to do for a long time. Yeah, this
Speaker 2: is the How's your Marriage?
Speaker 1: Show? Dan?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the How's your Marriage Show? Except we're
Speaker 2: not talking about our marriages. Well you want to, and
Speaker 2: I know you it will end up there. But here's
Speaker 2: where we're going to start. Where we're going to start
Speaker 2: is by looking at marriages between coaches and programs, coaches
Speaker 2: and institutions. We're going to evaluate the health of said relationships.
Speaker 2: So we've got a big list here. I don't know
Speaker 2: if we'll get through all of these, but some guys
Speaker 2: might be on the hot seat, some guys maybe are
Speaker 2: doing pretty well or have been in a state of
Speaker 2: stagnation for a while.
Speaker 1: Some are very much on the rise.
Speaker 2: So we're really going to run the gamut here evaluate
Speaker 2: the health of some of these relationships. Coaching standpoint, maybe more,
Speaker 2: I don't know, right, and we're going to see where
Speaker 2: we stand here. We're two married guys. We can evaluate
Speaker 2: a relationship, right.
Speaker 1: We absolutely I want to. We did this what twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen way back when you till you found it, I
Speaker 1: didn't even know we did. Yeah, we tied it to steaminess,
Speaker 1: And I got to tell you once again this is
Speaker 1: going to be a sexist landmine for us, and we're
Speaker 1: going to do our best to avoid any pratt falls here.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I think we're going to evaluate relationship, marriages,
Speaker 1: steam factor, and whether or not everything you know, the
Speaker 1: charcoal is still burning bright between these two entities, be it.
Speaker 1: I think we've got mostly coaches in schools, but also
Speaker 1: maybe bigger, broader ideas and bigger broader relationships, if that
Speaker 1: makes sense. Why don't we start out very broad? Do
Speaker 1: you have us? Do you have a sound to lead
Speaker 1: us in?
Speaker 2: I mean, the only one I have is on set.
Speaker 2: I feel like spicy is a pretty good right here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's pretty good, such a versatile sounded. Indeed, Yeah,
Speaker 1: where are we starting.
Speaker 2: We're starting with Power five football and its marriage, its
Speaker 2: open relationship with the NC Double A.
Speaker 1: Dan, it's open it.
Speaker 2: I just want to you want me to explain what
Speaker 2: that term me. I'm aware of what the term means,
Speaker 2: thinking I'm older than you. Keep that in mind.
Speaker 1: That's true power five football in the n C Double A.
Speaker 2: So this is this is an interesting space to be
Speaker 2: in right now. The NC Double A. How would we
Speaker 2: describe its relationship with Power five football?
Speaker 1: Rules? It's organizational on some level, but it's mostly there
Speaker 1: to organize the structure of eligibility and enforce rules that
Speaker 1: affect eligibility. So it's a I suppose, very concerned security guard.
Speaker 2: And power five football strikes me as a kind of
Speaker 2: the kind of person that's been working out, looking in
Speaker 2: the mirror, feeling real good about itself. Oh okay, and
Speaker 2: starting to look at that NC double A and wonder, hmm,
Speaker 2: do we really want to stay do we really want
Speaker 2: to have the old ball and chain here? The NC
Speaker 2: DOUBLEA be kind of with us forever? Like?
Speaker 1: Are we out growing?
Speaker 2: Are we getting too good for the NC double A?
Speaker 2: And I worry that these two may be headed for
Speaker 2: Splitsville at some point.
Speaker 1: Do you think I don't think you're necessarily incorrect. Do
Speaker 1: you think that they've been together for so long and
Speaker 1: grown a parts? Like dinner parties can get pretty uncomfortable. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there are a couple that at a dinner party, one
Speaker 1: of them says something that the rest of the tables like,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, did he say this is how he feels
Speaker 1: about this group of people? I'm sorry? Did he just
Speaker 1: talk about? What? What is he? What is he going
Speaker 1: off on? And the partner in that relationship, the spouse
Speaker 1: in that relationship is getting more and more embarrassed all
Speaker 1: the time and wondering as they they glide into their
Speaker 1: elder stage of their lives into the twilight years, is
Speaker 1: this who they really should be spending time with. Is
Speaker 1: are they still aligned as personalities as a couple. That's
Speaker 1: the type of relationship right now now. It's very difficult
Speaker 1: to find that person later in life. I think you
Speaker 1: really have to be able to come across a lot
Speaker 1: of personalities. And now maybe you're just in the case
Speaker 1: of powerfive Football, you just want to be single. You
Speaker 1: just want to be a bachelor or bachelorette, and you
Speaker 1: just want to enjoy your life, and you want to
Speaker 1: go on the vacations you want to go on. You
Speaker 1: want to go to the restaurants you want to go to,
Speaker 1: you want to buy the car you want to buy,
Speaker 1: You want to decorate your house the way you want
Speaker 1: to decorate your house. That's what I feel like we're
Speaker 1: in right here. I feel like this.
Speaker 2: Is a relationship that may need counseling. And Power five
Speaker 2: is looking at the NC DOUBLEA is saying Spark's gone,
Speaker 2: and the ncublea doesn't want to hear that, and so
Speaker 2: they're willing to go to counseling. They're willing to do
Speaker 2: whatever they can to rekindle that old flame. I just
Speaker 2: a lot of times you get to that point there
Speaker 2: is no rekindling to be had, Dan, So I worry
Speaker 2: about this relationship, I really do.
Speaker 1: I understand where both are coming from. But Power five,
Speaker 1: Power five, man, it's got room to grow, It's got
Speaker 1: on its own. The nc DOUBLEA, the NCAA has gotten
Speaker 1: used to a certain lifestyle. Yeah, I do, and are
Speaker 1: now worried that, oh, we're gonna have to move from
Speaker 1: this this lakeside cottage, this lakeside mansion into the condo
Speaker 1: in the city. Yeah, they don't want that without Power five,
Speaker 1: they don't. Mark Emmerton does not want that. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. So, Yeah, I think counseling or just they
Speaker 1: really have to to spice things up and change their ways.
Speaker 1: If that's even possible. It's late in life. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Let's jump to what I think is the opposite side
Speaker 2: of the spectrum. Dan, Okay, let's talk about Dan Mullen
Speaker 2: and University of Florida right as opposed to Power five
Speaker 2: In the NCAA, which I feel like maybe two ships
Speaker 2: drifting in opposite directions. I feel like the Mullen Florida
Speaker 2: relationship is one of those deals where they start wearing
Speaker 2: matching jackets, like, okay, each way back, they go way back.
Speaker 2: Each's identity is has so much in common with the
Speaker 2: other that they just sort of morph into the same
Speaker 2: entity altogether. You ever met a couple like that where
Speaker 2: you know they're maybe they're they're wearing like matching Jean
Speaker 2: jackets or something. They become one and the same.
Speaker 1: You're talking about like the Brad pittization of a relationship
Speaker 1: where he's he's with Aniston and his hair is blonde.
Speaker 1: He's with Jolie his hair is black. Like he takes
Speaker 1: on he's a shape shifter. Yeah, as it relates to
Speaker 1: his relationship partner. Yeah, in this case, I guess, Yes,
Speaker 1: I guess.
Speaker 2: What I'm feeling about the Mullen Florida union here is
Speaker 2: that Florida is just going to take on all the
Speaker 2: characteristics of Dan Mullen, that he's going to be successful there.
Speaker 2: He's been successful there in the past, so he knows
Speaker 2: the school. They have a lot in common.
Speaker 1: It's a weird way to talk about a side of
Speaker 1: a relationship, I know, isn't it. It's very strange.
Speaker 2: He's been successful there, so yeah, I didn't even notice
Speaker 2: that when I said it, but I know, think, where
Speaker 2: do you stand on the mull in Florida thing?
Speaker 1: There is an element to Mullen and Florida. Not to
Speaker 1: say that Dan Mullen cheated by leaving Mississippi State in
Speaker 1: his wake, because he accomplished a lot of very impressive
Speaker 1: things in Mississippi State and in Starkville, but there is
Speaker 1: an element where his name keeps coming up, keeps coming
Speaker 1: up for jobs, even at Florida, where he just won
Speaker 1: the East. They just broke through the Gators did under
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen, beat Georgia, ended up scoring a ton of
Speaker 1: points on Alabama, and even though Kyle Trask is gone,
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts is gone, what do you call him? K
Speaker 1: pop that I think there is some doubt among Florida
Speaker 1: fans that he's sort of had his ceiling and that
Speaker 1: it'll be more difficult to break through the Alabama side
Speaker 1: of things. There's also a side to me that with
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen's name coming up for so many jobs so often,
Speaker 1: I think Dan Mullen has a lot of emotional friendships
Speaker 1: with other schools, and that is a tricky relationship to
Speaker 1: be and almost like you got together with somebody who
Speaker 1: cheated on you with their who cheated on their spouse
Speaker 1: with you. Now you're together, but you're still like, well,
Speaker 1: this person is a cheater that I'm now with, and
Speaker 1: so what does that say about our relationship? I think
Speaker 1: there's an element to that. With Dan Mullen and Florida.
Speaker 1: Things are going great, charming and really getting the most
Speaker 1: out of the relationship, but there is that element that,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's got to be his way, and
Speaker 1: is his way always the best for the relationship? Not
Speaker 1: so sure? Hmm.
Speaker 2: I did not expect you to explore the cheating side
Speaker 2: of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, does his name not come up?
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen would be interested in an NFL job? Should
Speaker 1: one come up and be interested in Dan Mullen's services. Now,
Speaker 1: maybe that was all smoke, but there seems to always
Speaker 1: be smoke with Dan Mullen and jobs in college football.
Speaker 1: That's a really interesting angle Dan. Emotional friendships.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't. I didn't consider that before. I think
Speaker 2: we're still a little bit of ways off from that.
Speaker 2: I feel like Florida, Florida needs to get to the
Speaker 2: top of the sec before before that's a real conversation,
Speaker 2: a real worry now from the from the Florida side.
Speaker 1: But is there an element of Florida having a tremendous
Speaker 1: relationship for a stretch though it did go south with say,
Speaker 1: Dan Mullen's brother, and now Florida. You know, they were
Speaker 1: with Stan Mullen. Mullen sure, and Dan's always going to
Speaker 1: be compared to Stan because they're tied together. And now
Speaker 1: Florida is like, well, Stan is off doing his thing
Speaker 1: and it didn't work out. Let's go with Dan Mullen,
Speaker 1: the lesser of the Mullins, but a terrifically impressive Mullen.
Speaker 2: Still a Mullon nonetheless. Okay, correct, you really threw me
Speaker 2: for a loop, So I want to move on. I
Speaker 2: want to go a different direction.
Speaker 1: I would have for a long walk a little while
Speaker 1: ago and thought these throw continue.
Speaker 2: Ken, Neo, Matalolo and Navy. So look, I'm going to
Speaker 2: say something here Lis that listen. I would anticipate a
Speaker 2: large chunk of our listening audience would take some umbrage too,
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna say it anyway, because we're all friends.
Speaker 2: We're all friends here. I feel like with the frequency
Speaker 2: that Ken Niamatolo, I can't even say his name, that
Speaker 2: his name comes up with Ken, Ken, thank you, with
Speaker 2: other jobs, that there must at least be some interest
Speaker 2: from his side.
Speaker 1: Is that fair to say? I know he's interviewed of it.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, of course, of course, yes, And
Speaker 1: yet he's still at Navy.
Speaker 2: Navy's going to keep him for as long as he's
Speaker 2: willing to stay. This to me, has the element of
Speaker 2: a high school relationship that it's just sort of always been,
Speaker 2: and now as we get a little bit later in life,
Speaker 2: there may be one of the two partners that's willing
Speaker 2: to just explore, test the waters and see what's out there.
Speaker 1: And I feel like that might that maybe Ken in
Speaker 1: this case. Dean, Okay, yeah, I think you're onto something.
Speaker 1: I thought about this in terms of Ken new Modololo
Speaker 1: and Navy. You know, notice how I just nailed the
Speaker 1: name right there. Casually. Ken is Ken and Navy are
Speaker 1: from a small town. They have a very specific relationship
Speaker 1: and specific history and specific accent and way of doing things.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that Ken is tired of Navy,
Speaker 1: but maybe Ken wants to take the train into the
Speaker 1: big city and understand a way of life that's different
Speaker 1: than what he's used to. And not that Navy's holding
Speaker 1: him back, because Navy understands Ken like they have a
Speaker 1: great rapport, But there is something about their very specific
Speaker 1: relationship and references and preferences that Ken Neamadololo is saying,
Speaker 1: this has been a great relationship. I wouldn't change a thing,
Speaker 1: and I know I come at things from a very
Speaker 1: specific perspective.
Speaker 2: But.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe I'd like to take a siesta
Speaker 1: before a late dinner at ten pm and see what
Speaker 1: that's like. Yeah, this you know what this is Dan,
Speaker 1: now that I think about it.
Speaker 2: H Ken on his Facebook profile still has listed when
Speaker 2: it says interested in he still has interested in small
Speaker 2: mid major college football programs. Has that listed? He does
Speaker 2: not have any entry though at least not publicly in
Speaker 2: that married field, and so you might be passing by.
Speaker 2: He might be Ken's friends say, Wow, he's okay, he's
Speaker 2: still interested in X. We know he's married to X,
Speaker 2: but we don't see any listing of that.
Speaker 1: Why that's true, I think that's a good comparison.
Speaker 2: It's not overt, it's not in your field, not trying
Speaker 2: to cause a ruckus. And it's very easy for Ken
Speaker 2: to just say, look, I don't go on Facebook that much.
Speaker 2: Doesn't mean anything to me. Probably means a lot to Navy, though,
Speaker 2: doesn't it. Navy might not even know about it. Maybe
Speaker 2: they can't do it.
Speaker 1: I was on a very similar mind path. Do you
Speaker 1: remember when Instagram would let you see somebody's likes, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: oh he accounts that they've liked. Oh yeah, and first
Speaker 1: of all, hilariously evil feature, just incredible. But then you
Speaker 1: would you would hear about politicians, or you would hear about,
Speaker 1: you know, big famous people that are in relationships but
Speaker 1: liking all of the posts of this person that they're
Speaker 1: not in a relationship with, and all those posts are
Speaker 1: that person. It's scantily clad on a beach somewhere, or
Speaker 1: it's a politician who's like the sexualization of our youth.
Speaker 1: And then you look at their likes and it's maybe
Speaker 1: some adult film stars maybe, and they didn't realize that
Speaker 1: they were being kind of overt with who they truly are,
Speaker 1: which is fine, but there is that element to ken neomodololo.
Speaker 1: His quirks and preferences are on display, whether he knows
Speaker 1: it or not. Yeah, he's looking. He's open for business. Sure,
Speaker 1: But the thing is, somebody in a bigger city with
Speaker 1: a different job, from a different background, are they going
Speaker 1: to be into his delco accent? Right? It's unclear, right,
Speaker 1: Like it's a very specific personality that he has that
Speaker 1: he doesn't know how it's going to play somewhere else.
Speaker 1: But he's willing to roll that dice. I can evolve,
Speaker 1: I can change, I can fit in. I'm a chameleon.
Speaker 1: Speaking of which, Dan, But by the way, the delco
Speaker 1: accent is just my favorite sound in America. Yeah, yeah, No,
Speaker 1: it's a thing that's suburban Philly, suburban Delaware County. Yeah yeah, a.
Speaker 2: Lot of water, a lot of thone phone talk on
Speaker 2: the phone.
Speaker 1: I know it well.
Speaker 2: Okay, speaking of aggressive personalities, let's talk about Herm Edwards.
Speaker 1: Oh, let's do it here.
Speaker 2: We are so Herm Edwards Actually when he now's his
Speaker 2: marriage to Arizona State made some waves because it was
Speaker 2: almost like.
Speaker 1: An online type of thing. Remember he got was it
Speaker 1: the was it the fight song wrong or the mascot wrong?
Speaker 1: He got some right, what was that, something about sun
Speaker 1: devils and being Catholic. Yeah, oh no, it was somebody
Speaker 1: said they asked him a question and they announced that
Speaker 1: they were from Devil's digest. He was like, I don't
Speaker 1: know about that. I'm a Catholic. Yeah it was.
Speaker 2: It was just a weird, a weird thing where he
Speaker 2: had been thrust into the situation and still didn't know
Speaker 2: enough about the partner, and so that made some waves.
Speaker 1: That made some waves. He also had a very weird.
Speaker 2: Philosophy at the time, you'll recall that also made waves.
Speaker 2: We got like three months worth of content out of that.
Speaker 1: That was awesome.
Speaker 2: I don't know how ASU felt about that, but they were.
Speaker 2: They were kind of reinventing the wheel in a sense.
Speaker 2: So quirky new partner comes in a lot of enthusiasm,
Speaker 2: happy to be there, trying to change the world. I
Speaker 2: understand how you get caught up in that. And I
Speaker 2: would say to some extent herm Edwards for sure has
Speaker 2: exceeded expectations at Arizona State, because at least initially I
Speaker 2: thought it was going to be a train wreck.
Speaker 1: That has not been the case.
Speaker 2: I don't know how if there's been a whole lot
Speaker 2: of progression, but at least to date, I would say
Speaker 2: it's been it's been a good experience. What is the
Speaker 2: state of affairs now with herm at Asu Dan because
Speaker 2: we you'll recall, talked a few weeks back about Arizona
Speaker 2: state and how do they get over the hump? How
Speaker 2: do they get to that next level? Where are we
Speaker 2: at here? Where do you stand on herm Have.
Speaker 1: You ever been to dinner with a couple, a new
Speaker 1: couple where you had been to dinner with one of
Speaker 1: those people that with another long term spouse or partner, boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever,
Speaker 1: and you're just like kind of skeptical that they've moved
Speaker 1: on to this new person, maybe younger, and you're just like,
Speaker 1: I wonder how this is gonna go. I wonder what
Speaker 1: they have in common. I wonder what their vibe is,
Speaker 1: their chemistry is like that vibe. I think I've been
Speaker 1: that person who has had like a lot of dinners
Speaker 1: with friends with one person and then I moved across
Speaker 1: the country and what things changed? I think herm Edwards
Speaker 1: was introduced to a much younger spouse by a good
Speaker 1: friend of his agent and Adie Ray Anderson Vasio, and
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people were skeptical of the
Speaker 1: generation gap. We're talking longtime adult NFL professional coach out
Speaker 1: of the dating game, and everybody just assumed if he
Speaker 1: were to get back in the game, it would be
Speaker 1: with somebody more mature, more his age. But he goes
Speaker 1: with somebody noticeably younger. But he's also trying to correct
Speaker 1: the errors of his ways, trying to approach things in
Speaker 1: a more modern way. He's dressing better, he's more thoughtful,
Speaker 1: he's trying to improve. And yes, this spouse is younger
Speaker 1: and people are talking, there are whispers, but when you
Speaker 1: spend time with them, you could see that they're a
Speaker 1: pretty good match. So hold on, hold, let me pause
Speaker 1: you there for a second. I want to, okay, I
Speaker 1: want to unpack a little bit of this generational dynamic
Speaker 1: here that you've uncovered. Of course, do we feel that
Speaker 1: it's more of the old guy trying to improve himself
Speaker 1: to be a better fit, or do we think that
Speaker 1: it's the older guy almost doing the cool substitute teacher thing,
Speaker 1: where like he's just being being edgy for the sake
Speaker 1: of it, Like maybe he bought a leather jacket and
Speaker 1: it doesn't fit anything with his persona, but he's doing
Speaker 1: it to try and play younger.
Speaker 2: What side of the coin here are we on with Herm?
Speaker 1: I think Herm Edwards is somebody who has gotten a
Speaker 1: little bit of a bit older, is divorced, not by
Speaker 1: his own doing, but realizes perhaps some of the error
Speaker 1: of his ways, airs of his ways.
Speaker 2: And.
Speaker 1: Realizes that he's no good single. He needs someone needs
Speaker 1: and he has a very specific energy to him. And
Speaker 1: he was like, listen, I'm just going to find somebody
Speaker 1: that's a good match. If they're tall, if they're short,
Speaker 1: if they're old, if they're young, if they're loud, if
Speaker 1: they're quiet, I'm going to find somebody who I work
Speaker 1: out well with. And it just so happens this person
Speaker 1: is young and lives in the sunshine, and there's not
Speaker 1: a ton of big expectations of him. They just want
Speaker 1: to have a good time. Their personalities match. You know,
Speaker 1: we like to look down on when we see that
Speaker 1: famous people. You know, maybe an older man and a
Speaker 1: younger woman or an older woman, whatever combination you're looking
Speaker 1: for you have in mind, and we like to look
Speaker 1: down and be like, what could they possibly have in common? Well,
Speaker 1: here's the reaction if a seventy year old is with
Speaker 1: a thirty year old, Say it's about a forty year
Speaker 1: age gap. Thirty year old still an adult, right, we
Speaker 1: shouldn't discount somebody. So I think we got to give
Speaker 1: them a chance, even though it seems unconventional. I think
Speaker 1: once you hang out with them and you see the
Speaker 1: experience of herm and his younger partner, ASU, you get it.
Speaker 1: You understand what they're what they're doing together. I think
Speaker 1: what you're saying, and I sort of vibe with this
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, this is they have uncomfortable double dates
Speaker 1: with Michigan State.
Speaker 2: They do, they do, They absolutely do. This is a
Speaker 2: new age relationship. Maybe they don't believe in the label marriage. Okay,
Speaker 2: they're just together.
Speaker 1: No, I think they're getting something out of each other.
Speaker 2: Common law to some extent, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's companionship. I think there's fun. Yeah, experimentation.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, speaking of companionship, speaking of fun, Speaking
Speaker 2: of experimentation, let's talk about Brett Bilima.
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's absolutely do it. Oh no, okay.
Speaker 1: Bilamas from the Midwest.
Speaker 2: He was at Wisconsin, had a stint at Arkansas.
Speaker 1: Been out of the game.
Speaker 2: For a couple of years now, he's coming back to
Speaker 2: the Midwest, going to Illinois after they part of ways
Speaker 2: with love Smith. I have no idea how to feel
Speaker 2: about this, Okay. I feel like, if you are Illinois,
Speaker 2: you're in the situation where you're looking for a warm body.
Speaker 2: You're looking for a warm body. You've heard all the stuff.
Speaker 1: About Brett Bilima, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: You kind of just don't care though, You're kind of
Speaker 2: just cool with it because you're in the market.
Speaker 1: You're willing to give.
Speaker 2: It a shot.
Speaker 1: Incomes Brett Bieloma.
Speaker 2: He's interested, willing to go to you know, the pub
Speaker 2: with you, throw a few back, tell some jokes, have
Speaker 2: a good time, make you feel young again.
Speaker 1: Dan. So, in this situation, if I'm to understand you,
Speaker 1: and please correct me if I'm wrong, is the background
Speaker 1: check a chlamydia test.
Speaker 2: I'm not going quite to that extreme. Okay, all right,
Speaker 2: but you've heard you know, you've heard rumblings. If you're Illinois,
Speaker 2: you've heard rumblings and you're just willing to look past
Speaker 2: it because you're tired of being lonely.
Speaker 1: Man. You're tired of being lonely. I think there's an
Speaker 1: element of familiarity with Brett Bielahma and that division that
Speaker 1: school that maybe Brett Bilama maybe this was similar. What
Speaker 1: was the movie Just Friends Ryan Reynolds? Is that the
Speaker 1: movie Ryan Reynolds Amy Smart where he sings all for
Speaker 1: one Gosh, you know what I'm talking about. No, I don't.
Speaker 1: You've never seen Just Friends. I don't think so. Oh
Speaker 1: it's a good movie. I think it's Anna Faris plays
Speaker 1: like a Britney Spears type. Anyway, Ryan Reynolds wears a fatsuit.
Speaker 1: It's funny. There is that element of familiarity returning home
Speaker 1: Ish and Brett Bielma tried to make it out in
Speaker 1: the big cities, out in the world and see how
Speaker 1: far he could go. And Illinois, I've been through some
Speaker 1: tough relationships. Yeah, and it's sort of everybody's hoping it's
Speaker 1: right place, right time. Brett Bielima coming home. This is
Speaker 1: who he always was, big ten kid Illinois looking for
Speaker 1: somebody who gets them, understands their references. Went to high
Speaker 1: school together, always sort of circled around each other, but
Speaker 1: never really made it official. Coming together, and everybody's rooting
Speaker 1: for it, right and hoping for the best that you know,
Speaker 1: Illinois has been down on their luck. Everybody's just they
Speaker 1: want the best for Illinois. Rett Bielama had a rough
Speaker 1: go of things outside of Big ten West. Everybody just
Speaker 1: everybody just wants it to work out. There's a real
Speaker 1: Hallmark movie quality to this, islearly there is, Yes, there is.
Speaker 1: There's a Hallmark quality to this where the investment banker
Speaker 1: from Chicago goes on a retreat, no one of those
Speaker 1: no phone retreats, right, just kind of home in Alabama
Speaker 1: and reconnect and meets someone that runs like a very
Speaker 1: rural tree farm, Yeah, and decides gonna give it all
Speaker 1: up and help run the tree farm instead. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: like that. So in this instance, maybe Brett Buelama worked
Speaker 1: in corporate lumber, Yeah, and came home. It was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Illinois. I don't know. We come from
Speaker 1: different but at the same time they have so much
Speaker 1: in common. Yeah.
Speaker 2: People are either going to love this sh show or
Speaker 2: that's what's gonna happen. That's true of most shows.
Speaker 1: That's what's that's what's gonna happen here.
Speaker 2: Do you like this marriage? By the way, just like
Speaker 2: superficially speaking, do we like Bilma and Illinois together.
Speaker 1: I think I think they can open up a charming
Speaker 1: used bookstore. They're never gonna hit the riches, but I
Speaker 1: think they could become a staple of their community, and
Speaker 1: so I'm rooting for that. Maybe serve some scones and tea.
Speaker 2: I like it does not strike me as a scone
Speaker 2: kind of guy.
Speaker 1: Dan Oh multiple scones. I've seen the pictures of him.
Speaker 1: He's doing no fat shaming here. I just imagine he
Speaker 1: likes multiple scones. I like multiple scones.
Speaker 2: Sure, I just don't strike him as refined enough to
Speaker 2: be into scones.
Speaker 1: I'm so insulting. He needs red meat.
Speaker 2: That's what he needs. Okay, he's a growing boy. Uh
Speaker 2: where do we want to go next?
Speaker 1: Do you get to pick next? Let's go Miami in
Speaker 1: Manny Diaz. Great hair, great hair.
Speaker 2: I know you, yeah, yeah, great head of hair. Familiarity
Speaker 2: with the area, Manny Diaz. If you're Miami, you're looking
Speaker 2: at Manny Diaz has been there before. You've always sort
Speaker 2: of known about Manny Diaz. He's always been in your circles.
Speaker 2: Knows your hometown. Dad was the mayor your hometown.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who wouldn't want to have many Diaz in their arm.
Speaker 1: Great head of hair.
Speaker 2: Has definitely been somebody who has been talked about in
Speaker 2: circles for many, many years. So whoever gets Manny Diaz
Speaker 2: like they got it made? Where are they lucky now?
Speaker 2: Now Miami's got Manny Daz correct. I don't know if
Speaker 2: the early going with the Many Diaz thing has been
Speaker 2: quite the the envious experience that the Hurricanes had expected
Speaker 2: or hoped for. Now they were able to get dear King,
Speaker 2: We're able to attract some talent, some flash trying to
Speaker 2: recapture that that swagger.
Speaker 1: No, I think it was more than that though though
Speaker 1: great defensive line last year, got after the quarterback, really
Speaker 1: fun aggressive defense. Jalen Phillips Rochet, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like the best is yet to
Speaker 2: come of this relationship. I remain very hopeful here that
Speaker 2: this is a relationship with a lot of unrealized potential.
Speaker 2: It just might take some time. Like many relationships, it
Speaker 2: has to develop organically over the course of time. Many
Speaker 2: Diaz is still trying to find his way here as
Speaker 2: Hurricanes football coach. I I feel optimistic.
Speaker 1: Here, Dan. Do you remember have you seen the movie
Speaker 1: The Graduate? Yes? I have remember the ending scene with
Speaker 1: stop the weddings, stop the window. It was also spoofed,
Speaker 1: and I think it was Wayne' World two. There is
Speaker 1: that element of Miami watching many Diaz as the coach
Speaker 1: of Temple, knowing that they were more perfect for each
Speaker 1: other as a couple banging on the glass, stop the
Speaker 1: running away together themselves getting married, but not fully knowing
Speaker 1: the rhythms of what a marriage would be like. I
Speaker 1: think there's been a lot of swings, a lot of
Speaker 1: ups and downs, and you look at some of the
Speaker 1: downs last year, the Clemson game, the North Carolina game,
Speaker 1: a lot of downs, and while the highs are high,
Speaker 1: the lows are can be pretty embarrassingly low. And so
Speaker 1: I think there's still a couple figuring things out that
Speaker 1: some of the lunches together on double dates couldn't have
Speaker 1: gone better. Some of the brunches, some of the dinners
Speaker 1: really awkward for another couple or two that they're going
Speaker 1: back at each other, and that's just it's it becomes
Speaker 1: very awkward sort of the scene and breaking bad, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? The dinner with the dinner
Speaker 1: and Paul sort of sipping the water uncomfortably looking back
Speaker 1: and forth. There is that element to Miami and Many Diaz,
Speaker 1: especially when you look at what quarterback look like before
Speaker 1: Dearic King this year with the offense has done on
Speaker 1: the ground or not done on the ground, committing too
Speaker 1: many penalties. So I think people think they're going to
Speaker 1: work it out, They're going to find their way. There's
Speaker 1: too much that they love about each other for it
Speaker 1: not to work out. But at the same time, you
Speaker 1: never know if something's going to come up and bite them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because there's just so much there's a lot of raw
Speaker 1: energy and passion between the two of them. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got to explain that.
Speaker 2: It just sort of emanates off the two of them.
Speaker 2: I do wonder if there is a quality to Miami
Speaker 2: where they are more in love with the idea of
Speaker 2: a many Daz than Many Daz himself.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see what you're saying, you know, And.
Speaker 2: That worries me that if a year or two from now,
Speaker 2: Miami has a bunch of friends sit it down and say, look,
Speaker 2: they just not go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, is he gonna propose? Is he not going to propose?
Speaker 1: Maybe they're not.
Speaker 2: Even really married yet. I don't interesting, And I could
Speaker 2: see Miami's friend group having a heart to heart with it, saying, look,
Speaker 2: this isn't going anywhere, right, and that forces Miami to
Speaker 2: a choice, a heartbreaking choice at that, because again, everyone's
Speaker 2: rooting for this couple.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: But I do worry that Miami may be more infatuated
Speaker 2: with the idea of a many Diaz and maybe not
Speaker 2: just maybe not this one.
Speaker 1: But then again, you see Miami and Manny Diaz do
Speaker 1: karaoke together. They sing Islands in the Stream at Louisville,
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, what a couple. What
Speaker 1: a couple.
Speaker 2: Even when they're not doing kara they finish each other's sentences.
Speaker 2: They are a very good match.
Speaker 1: The best of them is just so easy. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: there are those down moments.
Speaker 2: Mac Brown in North Carolina, Dan, mm hmm. Yeah, let's
Speaker 2: let's unpack this one a little bit more.
Speaker 1: Mac Brown.
Speaker 2: You talked earlier about the relationship between herm Edwards and
Speaker 2: Asu the older gentleman, maybe right, younger spouse. Is that
Speaker 2: not true for mac Brown?
Speaker 1: Yes? I think they were. They were high school sweethearts
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason doesn't work out, they are going
Speaker 1: to get married and have kids in their their town,
Speaker 1: their hometown. But then mac Brown wanted to go away
Speaker 1: to college. Maybe he went away to war war and
Speaker 1: things just changed. Am I comparing the University of Texas
Speaker 1: to went to war? Oh, a combat zone abroad, somewhat
Speaker 1: somewhat went to war. He's not one hundred years old.
Speaker 1: But Okay, I know, I know. No, I think it's
Speaker 1: one of those things. Of course that mac Brown thought
Speaker 1: he was going to have it better elsewhere, and for
Speaker 1: a long time he did. But there's just there's nothing
Speaker 1: like coming home. There's nothing like coming home ty, coming
Speaker 1: back where the people appreciate you for who you are,
Speaker 1: not for who you aren't. How about that? I do
Speaker 1: you know?
Speaker 2: So if we if we look at herm in ASU,
Speaker 2: you talk about one partner who is generations older.
Speaker 1: M hm than the other.
Speaker 2: I feel like that is the case to some extent
Speaker 2: with Mac and UNC. But UN sees more of an
Speaker 2: old soul like it sort of fits. And plus there
Speaker 2: is more familiarity there. They do know each other, and
Speaker 2: I think Mack Brown has proved an adaptability. He really
Speaker 2: has these first couple of years where he's been with
Speaker 2: UNC or back with UNC. Now it's been really successful.
Speaker 2: They have for sure gone places, gone to new heights
Speaker 2: in these first couple of years in a way that
Speaker 2: I don't think many of us in college, forble media expected.
Speaker 2: Everybody likes mac Brown. Everybody is rooting for mac Brown.
Speaker 2: No one was rooting actively against mac Brown unless you're
Speaker 2: maybe a Duke fan. I don't even know if Duke
Speaker 2: fans care about this football rivalry. But Mac Brown has
Speaker 2: clearly I think, proven his metal here. So I root
Speaker 2: for this couple. Mac Brown is damn likable. UNC has
Speaker 2: had flashes over the years, They've had stars move through
Speaker 2: that football program. Going to pretend that it's been like
Speaker 2: a sustained chain of success at Chapel Hill in the
Speaker 2: football field, it hasn't right, kind of an unknown quantity there.
Speaker 2: So I feel a sense of joy and optimism for
Speaker 2: this relationship.
Speaker 1: I think you're leaving out something important. I think the
Speaker 1: fire is burning. Yeah, I think so. I'm not even
Speaker 1: talking embers. I'm talking big flames.
Speaker 2: Tie.
Speaker 1: I think people expected happy little marriage, see the grandkids,
Speaker 1: you know, have fun, But there is so much more
Speaker 1: passion behind closed doors.
Speaker 2: You're thinking this is a Viager commercial, aren't you.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is can remember the commercial with the
Speaker 1: couple each in their own bathtub side by side. I
Speaker 1: don't know if we're talking about two bathtubs tie.
Speaker 2: And that's that's a little weird for this show. But
Speaker 2: I get you, is that a visual you want to
Speaker 2: go to? But no, I did get a visual there,
Speaker 2: and it does disturb me at least.
Speaker 1: A little bit.
Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of like flirtatious glances, you know,
Speaker 2: just vague flirtatious glances like you'd see on one of
Speaker 2: those lagger commercials.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: I think that's what we're talking about here where it's
Speaker 2: like they don't come out and say it because that
Speaker 2: be too much for a commercial, but you know, you
Speaker 2: know what they're getting at.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, I think the sparks of flying TI
Speaker 1: Yeah hmm, okay. Scott Frost and Nebraska Dan, I worry
Speaker 1: about this relationship. I worry there. I mean, they're what
Speaker 1: on again, off again?
Speaker 2: I worry there's double heartbreak on the horizon. I worry
Speaker 2: that Scott Frost went back home. It was comfortable and
Speaker 2: made a lot of sense. May have felt pressured into
Speaker 2: this marriage either by his parents someone else. Parents don't know.
Speaker 2: And on the flip side, Nebraska, look, it made a
Speaker 2: lot more sense for Nebraska than maybe it ever did
Speaker 2: for Scott Frost. Sure, here we are all the success
Speaker 2: he had. Yeah, here we are a little bit on
Speaker 2: the rocks. Dan Fair to say a little on the rocks.
Speaker 1: I think Nebraska in this situation or Scott Frost in
Speaker 1: this situation. One of them is did you watch Parks
Speaker 1: and rec.
Speaker 2: Sorry taking a sip? No, not, not to the extent
Speaker 2: that you did.
Speaker 1: I have seen a lot of volatility. There's there's a
Speaker 1: tammy Tooo situation plagued by Megan Malley and then Ron Swanson,
Speaker 1: of course Nick Offerman there it's just an on again,
Speaker 1: off again relationship. Of course, Scott Frost initially goes to Stanford,
Speaker 1: comes back home to Nebraska where he succeeds, leaves, you know,
Speaker 1: he's at what Northern Iowa and Oregon and UCF and
Speaker 1: comes back home. Can't quit each other on again, off
Speaker 1: again coming home. But what's the adage? Ty, you can
Speaker 1: never truly go home. And there is that element that
Speaker 1: volatility there as well, where they just didn't think about
Speaker 1: what they were getting into with each other. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: didn't realize the baggage involved when they thought, well, this
Speaker 1: is perfect we have all the same old friends, same
Speaker 1: old stomping grounds, but they didn't realize same old issues.
Speaker 2: Issues Scott Frost didn't know about like the forty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars in credit card debt, Like just little things like that.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that's attached to me now too. That's the rule?
Speaker 1: What Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of situations where his name is the
Speaker 2: only one on the car loan and he's fine with
Speaker 2: it because there is a genuine love there. But should
Speaker 2: he choose to go elsewhere it doesn't wash off?
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2: Scott Frost, nebrascal, watch out. SAME's headed for splitzwell crazy kids. Yeah,
Speaker 2: not Mike Gundy in Oklahoma State. They've been together a
Speaker 2: long time. Yeah, Mike Gundy may fall a little bit
Speaker 2: into that category where the partner's wondering, Okay, what'd you
Speaker 2: say out in public? What you wear out in public?
Speaker 2: Maybe not the proudest of that, but yeah, it's they've
Speaker 2: been together.
Speaker 1: For so long. Mm hmm, you sort of accept the
Speaker 1: other for who they've become.
Speaker 2: It's okay for the most part.
Speaker 1: I think they've been snappy with each other at family functions,
Speaker 1: you think, and it embarrasses the hell out of their
Speaker 1: kids and grandkids.
Speaker 2: So I'm assuming you're saying that Mike Gundy is the
Speaker 2: one who's been the embarrassing party.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah for the most part. Yeah, Mike Gundy in
Speaker 1: front of the worlds, in front of you know, the
Speaker 1: family functions, weddings, confirmations, bar mitzvahs, you name it. So
Speaker 1: it's just you gotta take what he says with the
Speaker 1: grain of salt, because people are gonna get a little
Speaker 1: bit riled up about him and his kids. His grandkids
Speaker 1: know that, like, well, that's just that's just old pop Pop.
Speaker 1: It's gonna say some stuff. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: like he's losing friends. M h cousins stops showing up
Speaker 1: at the functions, right one of the kids makes up
Speaker 1: it makes up an excuse. A kid makes up an
Speaker 1: excuse not to come. I think there's that element where
Speaker 1: maybe Oklahoma State and Mike Gundy, behind closed doors, it's
Speaker 1: been more of a marriage of convenience. They both have
Speaker 1: these great jobs. You know, they got this great house,
Speaker 1: everything's going with, the kids are great every you know,
Speaker 1: they seem like they have a good life publicly, but
Speaker 1: behind closed doors, there's a lot of concern. There lot
Speaker 1: of animosity. This is a situation where maybe, like Mike
Speaker 1: Gundy's a little too active on Facebook. Oh yeah, definitely.
Speaker 2: All the family members are friends with him, but maybe
Speaker 2: have muted him.
Speaker 1: They have all muted him. They've all muted.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, to the extent where there's big news
Speaker 2: in the Gundhi family and a lot of those closest
Speaker 2: to him family members don't actually know about it because
Speaker 2: they've just they've muted that social media feed.
Speaker 1: Oh definitely.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying this, you know, I'm not even
Speaker 2: touching up against the political angle here, which we know exists.
Speaker 2: But maybe he's just an oversharer yep. Uses Facebook like
Speaker 2: it's Twitter. We all know people like that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Got to get every thought out there, got
Speaker 1: to get it out there. A lot of uncomfortable memes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you feel a little bit for Oklahoma State because nobody
Speaker 1: can really remember or picture them with anybody else. But
Speaker 1: also appears Oklahoma State has a track record of not
Speaker 1: having the best spouses, having the best taste, and.
Speaker 2: Maybe Oklahoma States liked the couple of those posts has
Speaker 2: encouraged some of that social media behavior.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think they're you know, we can remember the good year
Speaker 1: as well, but it's hard to ignore the full picture.
Speaker 2: I still don't ever see this going for Splitsville. Wow, Okay,
Speaker 2: I really don't.
Speaker 1: Could you see Gundhy cheating on Oklahoma State or sort
Speaker 1: of ending things? Ending things? Maybe? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Which
Speaker 1: do you think would end things? First? It seems like
Speaker 1: Gundhi's tried to end things. Gundhi's had wandering eyes and
Speaker 1: just thinking that, you know, maybe this spouse isn't good
Speaker 1: enough for him. Yeah, maybe there's a better spouse in Knoxville.
Speaker 1: But ultimately, Oklahoma State has been the most familiar. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: he's a still water guy, has the long track record.
Speaker 1: But at this point, I think he may have missed
Speaker 1: his window. I think he's got a little saggy saggy
Speaker 1: watch out. Yeah, I think his hearing's going a little bit.
Speaker 1: I just think the appeal of Mike Gundy to another
Speaker 1: school perhaps wasn't what it was in twenty fourteen. Final two.
Speaker 1: Mature and gravity have taken its course.
Speaker 2: Final two, and I feel like each is on a
Speaker 2: different side of the relationship spectrum.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: On one hand, we've got Luke Fickle and Cincinnati. On
Speaker 2: the other we've got gusmels On and UCF. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: of course we know the drill here. Luke Fickle has
Speaker 2: been tremendously successful in his relationship with Cincinnati, so much
Speaker 2: so that definitely a lot of wandering guys out there,
Speaker 2: people asking the questions on him though, on him, on him,
Speaker 2: do you want to be the fouk Fickle? And on
Speaker 2: the flip side, with gusmels On, who was a darling
Speaker 2: for many years with Auburn Tigers, that relationship recently dissolved,
Speaker 2: UCF was in a position needed that warm body quick
Speaker 2: they're able to pick up Gus mels On.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I have I'm going to try to be
Speaker 1: vague about this, okay, please do. I have a friend
Speaker 1: who's friends with a or friendly with a moderately famous actor,
Speaker 1: and when that actor was younger and began dating his
Speaker 1: now wife, his friends all said, she's real nice, not
Speaker 1: what I expected from somebody he would date. Oh, very different, okay,
Speaker 1: real sweet, just not what we'd expected for them for
Speaker 1: him in a long term relationship. So that's not a compliment.
Speaker 1: It's different. No, no, no, not a compliment. Hard to take
Speaker 1: that as a compliment. If somebody's immediately talking about your
Speaker 1: personality and not necessarily the full picture, then not full compliment.
Speaker 2: Now it doesn't feel like a compliment the way that
Speaker 2: you describe it.
Speaker 1: But everybody thinks this pseudo famous actor is great, great looking, charming, funny,
Speaker 1: just like huh, that's a different direction than what I
Speaker 1: would have expected. And Luke Fikele clearly loves Cincinnati, feels
Speaker 1: like Cincinnati is great for him, has turned down the
Speaker 1: wandering eyes of others, and Luke Fickel is he's done
Speaker 1: such a great job in this relationship. Super attentive, organized, considerate,
Speaker 1: still brings the fire. I mean, Luke Fikele and Cincinnati
Speaker 1: and arrest on bathroom. You didn't hear it from me,
Speaker 1: but is the complete complete package. The concern, though, is
Speaker 1: Luke Fikel wants to build a bigger house. Luke Fikel
Speaker 1: wants to go on bigger vacations, and Cincinnati's just like, well,
Speaker 1: I like our little cottage. Well, you know, I like
Speaker 1: going to the Poconos, I like going to the Adirondacks.
Speaker 1: I don't know about Europe, I don't know about Asia.
Speaker 1: You're saying this is an introvert extrovert. I think there
Speaker 1: is that element where it plays really well. There's a
Speaker 1: good yin and yang to Luke Fickle Cincinnati, but maybe
Speaker 1: there's a more pronounced yang to Fickle's y. Have you
Speaker 1: ever taken the Myers Briggs test? I haven't, and I'm terrified. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's a real scientific measure,
Speaker 2: but it's a measure of something, and I think it's
Speaker 2: something like they say you're a good match if you've
Speaker 2: got three of the same letters, but each of you has,
Speaker 2: you know, or maybe it's two of the same letters.
Speaker 2: There's some overlap there that if you get your four
Speaker 2: letters and it's relatively the same as somebody else, that
Speaker 2: it's usually a good measure that it's going to be
Speaker 2: a decent match. I feel like maybe only one of
Speaker 2: the letters is a match here, and Luke Fickle's happy
Speaker 2: where he's at doesn't mean everything to him. But over
Speaker 2: the long haul, that's when the personalities come out. That's
Speaker 2: when Luke Fickle starts looking in the mirror and saying,
Speaker 2: do I really want this?
Speaker 1: Is what's You're also talking about Cincinnati being the one
Speaker 1: to notice him he's flying beneath the surface, beneath the radar.
Speaker 1: Nobody's considering Luke Fickle to be the next great husband,
Speaker 1: but Cincinnati's had their eye on him for quite some
Speaker 1: time and he completely fulfilled and beyond Bearcat's expectations. And
Speaker 1: so there's that sense of loyalty that lists the pop singar.
Speaker 1: This is the pop star who had the high school spouse.
Speaker 1: I guess not high school spouse, maybe I don't know. No,
Speaker 1: do your thing, Jerry Lee Lewis this one the high
Speaker 1: school partner? Yeah, and then blew up and got famous.
Speaker 1: And in this case, Luke Fickle to pop stars still
Speaker 1: with that high school sweetheart. Sure. Interesting, but you kind
Speaker 1: of know, you kind of know that with Luke Fickle
Speaker 1: going on tour and it's just gonna be tough. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be there in two different wavelengths in terms of
Speaker 1: how well known each entity is.
Speaker 2: They're going to have a come to Jesus moment where
Speaker 2: they both just get it out in different places in life.
Speaker 1: Get it out in the open.
Speaker 2: I feel like this is going to be an amicable
Speaker 2: breakup when it happens, it will happen, It's gonna be
Speaker 2: amicable and they're both publicly and I think genuinely going
Speaker 2: to root for each other, stay friends with the kids,
Speaker 2: stay friends for the kids. It's going to be a
Speaker 2: good religationship.
Speaker 1: Luke Fikel has a good relationship with new Dad at Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, here's where the circuit breaker is.
Speaker 2: Maybe he has extra tickets to the game and invites
Speaker 2: him a long.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a seamless transition.
Speaker 2: Meant the new dad too, Yeah, sure, could be a
Speaker 2: friend of his, could be yeah, could be interesting.
Speaker 1: Interesting. I think we're on the same page. I think
Speaker 1: we're lying there. Do we have any other names here
Speaker 1: that we need to come I think Gus Malson is
Speaker 1: clearly somebody who was in a very trying relationship ultimately
Speaker 1: was dumped but got a great beach house out of
Speaker 1: it and just just wants to boogie board, drink a
Speaker 1: cold beer with somebody, toes in the sand and found
Speaker 1: somebody who just wants to be chill. Founds that that
Speaker 1: match and I think easy to get along with bunching.
Speaker 1: They love the same stuff on Netflix. She loves that
Speaker 1: he has glasses, like there's just it's just easy. Is
Speaker 1: he easy to ree the character from forgetting Sarah Marshall.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, he wasn't a love story participants in that movie,
Speaker 1: but yeah, just a free spirit. There's some pain behind
Speaker 1: those eyes. He saw it with UCF. Yeah. Maybe you
Speaker 1: know what, I'll go a different Paul Red movie if
Speaker 1: you will allow me to. What if he is the
Speaker 1: Jason Siegel character from I Love You Man. It's living
Speaker 1: in Venice, eating fish tacos, doing his thing. Doesn't have
Speaker 1: to worry about the rat race downtown. Been there, done
Speaker 1: that right, living in a cottage. H Will he get
Speaker 1: put into a headlock and put to sleep by the
Speaker 1: Hulk Lufarigno? Maybe? Maybe in that case, I guess that
Speaker 1: is Luke Fickle in Cincinnati. But yeah, I think there's
Speaker 1: a big sigh of relief from gustmels On. Yeah, he
Speaker 1: was walking on eggshells with his ax, didn't want to
Speaker 1: say the wrong thing, didn't want to put the remote
Speaker 1: control in the wrong place. She was always going to
Speaker 1: yell at him for something. And now he just has
Speaker 1: a weight off of his shoulders. Boogie board, eat fish tacos,
Speaker 1: and exhale. This has been one of the weirdest shows
Speaker 1: we've ever done in Orlando, Florida. Nowhere near the beach.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, okay, so right in solid Verboat gmail
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Speaker 1: Let us know your thoughts on each of our breakdowns
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Speaker 1: going to have very strong opinions.
Speaker 2: It will go one way or the other. I can
Speaker 2: tell you yeah, they're going to love it or hate it.
Speaker 2: Maybe not to the Moana extreme.
Speaker 1: We've done this show before. I think like twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: maybe I think that might have been more risque the
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen probably. Yeah, now we're old. Can I ask
Speaker 1: you a question? It depends. Here's what we're to do here.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question, but here's what
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. You've been dodging my podcast within a
Speaker 1: podcast called How's Your Marriage for so long. What I
Speaker 1: want you to do is I want you to start
Speaker 1: answering this question. But as you start answering the question,
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Speaker 2: This is the first I'm hearing of this, but so
Speaker 2: far I'm okay.
Speaker 1: With This is the plan I thought about when we
Speaker 1: were walking, because I have so many questions for this
Speaker 1: podcast within a podcast for some people How's your Marriage?
Speaker 1: And I want you to I think we we can
Speaker 1: use whatever language we want to use. And I don't
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Speaker 2: On my end, this is a huge bear trap that
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Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, so here's what we're gonna do. Because we
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Speaker 1: that's all? Is that? Okay? So? Can I can I
Speaker 1: ask you how's your marriage? Is it good? My marriage
Speaker 1: is terrific? Yes? How about you? Well, I'm glad you asked.
Speaker 1: I have some thoughts. Okay, that's the end. How I
Speaker 1: don't know how long that went, twenty minutes or so
Speaker 1: of How's your Marriage? Yeah? I honestly, this is this
Speaker 1: is totally true. I'm not just saying this to say it.
Speaker 1: That was probably the most open you've ever been. Yeah,
Speaker 1: most vulnerable and revealing. I cried a little bit. I'm
Speaker 1: totally serious. This is not a bit. I learned stuff
Speaker 1: during that about your marriage. I'm not glad to learn
Speaker 1: it and me of you. But hold on, can we
Speaker 1: dive in real quick? We just got done. We just
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Speaker 1: I like hearing that. I think that's all I have. Dan.
Speaker 1: Should we do a housier marriage newsletter written by our spouses?
Speaker 1: The top and bottom five things about Ty and Dan? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that could be sign up for the newsletter of intenth.
Speaker 1: My guess is that both would say we're not as
Speaker 1: funny as we think. Oh my god, do you have
Speaker 1: the thing where they tell you that you recycle the
Speaker 1: same jokes. It's so I've made this joke to you
Speaker 1: and you think it's funny, which might mean that we're
Speaker 1: a better parent we are with our spouses. But my
Speaker 1: webinar goof the webinar, I love the webinar goof Jody
Speaker 1: does not no and have I done it on the show?
Speaker 1: I think you've done it multiple I think I have
Speaker 1: yeah where I get something. Yeah, I get something mildly right.
Speaker 1: And then I explained to you that you can be
Speaker 1: as bright as I am by taking my webinar. Jody
Speaker 1: is not a fan. Wow really where like I explain
Speaker 1: something that turns out to be true. I may explained
Speaker 1: Dan explain something obnoxiously, but it turns out to be true.
Speaker 1: And then I say, you know there's more here that
Speaker 1: I can share knowledge wise. If you just go to
Speaker 1: Santa Humstein dot net, there's my webinar. I can get
Speaker 1: the free webinar. Hates that with a fiery passion.
Speaker 2: I like that goof and I find that she's not
Speaker 2: wrong when she says that I recycled the same content
Speaker 2: over of course, I just continue to think it's funny.
Speaker 1: And she does not. That's the issue. Okay, that's Jody.
Speaker 1: Don't lave us, Yeah, please don't.
Speaker 2: This has been our marriage show, yes, our steamy marriage
Speaker 2: college football show.
Speaker 1: Indeed right in let us know your thoughts. We will
Speaker 1: be back.
Speaker 2: It is our public Q and a episode do one
Speaker 2: every month here in the office season. You can find
Speaker 2: out more about that on the Thursday download, which is
Speaker 2: coming your way. Dan, you put a call out to
Speaker 2: folks asking what do you and I continuously get wrong?
Speaker 1: Yes, about your team, about any team, about any college
Speaker 1: football topic, or about any non college football topic. What
Speaker 1: do Tye and Dan get annoyingly and consistently wrong on
Speaker 1: the show, and be specific because we get a lot wrong.
Speaker 1: So we are going to address this. This is our
Speaker 1: either maya Kulpa or double down show.
Speaker 2: It'll be fun for that guy over there, my good
Speaker 2: friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand. We'll talk to
Speaker 2: you all on Thursday in the meantimes day Sung Peace,