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Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal. Hell that for me, I'm

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Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 1: for Dake Edith State? Is that woo woom? And Dan

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Solid Verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 2: name is ty Hildebrand. His name is Dan Rubinstein. Solid

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Speaker 2: Verbal at gmail dot com is the email address. Don't

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Speaker 2: forget to go on out to verballers dot com for

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Speaker 2: the Patreon. Don't forget to follow along on social media,

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Speaker 2: Sir mister Rubinstein, how are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm good. I am currently looking at the college football

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Speaker 1: subreddit on reddit dot com, which is one of the

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Speaker 1: two subreddits I look at. It's this in the pizza one,

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Speaker 1: which I'm now posting on. By the way, Oh, you've

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Speaker 1: made it to the to the posting state. Okay, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, yeah, absolutely, I have it. It doesn't look like

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of news to talk about. Michigan loses

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Speaker 1: Giles Jackson, who is sort of there speedy all purpose

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Speaker 1: weapon a lot of reverses, was a promising receiver, so

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Speaker 1: he looks like he's in the transfer portal. I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a lot of current stuff to

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Speaker 1: Eastern Illinois, Tennessee State, UT Martin. I'm okay, Yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm I think I'm good. Actually, yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: glad the kids are playing football, he says, as an

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Speaker 1: ancient human. But no, I mean, aside from there's some

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Speaker 1: recruiting news. I saw. I think Miami got a blue

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Speaker 1: chip quarterback, Arkansas got a top tier safety. It's it's March.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing too much we can talk about right now.

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Speaker 1: I guess quarterback recruiting is somewhat interesting because that's where

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Speaker 1: the dominoes tend to fall pretty far ahead of signing day.

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Speaker 1: But I'm all right, and I'm very excited for today's show.

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Speaker 1: And I also have early reviews of YouTube coaching clinic speeches.

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Speaker 2: YouTube coaches clinic speeches. Okay, yeah, if you look for

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Speaker 2: coaches you enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, head coat coaches, sometimes coordinators. There's a good chance

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Speaker 1: that a video of them giving a coaching clinic is

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Speaker 1: on YouTube. And I watched Kirby Smart, I watched Lincoln Riley,

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Speaker 1: I've watched Sark There's a number i've watched Nick Saban.

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Speaker 1: There's a number of really good ones you can watch,

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Speaker 1: and they're like an hour long, and you get a

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Speaker 2: Let's let's stay here for a second because he's not

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Speaker 2: sending me these links and I've been watching. I think

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Speaker 2: I watched the Sark once he sent over who is

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Speaker 2: the best that you've watched? Just from an entertainment standpoint.

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Speaker 1: I saw Chip Kelly want a long time ago. That

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Speaker 1: Nike clinic because he was so plain and direct and

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Speaker 1: he was like, yeah, this is what he runs, this

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Speaker 1: f up teams with it. It's not that difficulty. He

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Speaker 1: was just very frank and that was a fun watch.

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Speaker 1: I enjoyed the Sark one, which I had sent to you, Reese.

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Speaker 1: Sark was good. Yeah. The thing so it's college coaches

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Speaker 1: reviewing their offenses or defenses or philosophies about coaching in

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Speaker 1: high school coaches. I think is the target audience. It's

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Speaker 1: it is. It totally is, and it's also I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's good for high school coaches to learn from these

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Speaker 1: hell out of the coaches. You guys are doing the

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Speaker 2: Well, on today's show, we're going to do something that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is the How's your Marriage Show? Except we're

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Speaker 2: So we're really going to run the gamut here evaluate

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Speaker 1: We absolutely I want to. We did this what twenty

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Speaker 1: going to do our best to avoid any pratt falls here.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I think we're going to evaluate relationship, marriages,

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Speaker 1: I think we've got mostly coaches in schools, but also

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Speaker 2: I feel like spicy is a pretty good right here.

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Speaker 2: We're starting with Power five football and its marriage, its

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Speaker 1: Dan, it's open it.

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Speaker 2: And power five football strikes me as a kind of

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Speaker 1: Do you think I don't think you're necessarily incorrect. Do

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Speaker 1: I understand where both are coming from. But Power five,

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Speaker 1: used to a certain lifestyle. Yeah, I do, and are

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Speaker 1: If that's even possible. It's late in life. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Let's jump to what I think is the opposite side

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Speaker 2: of the spectrum. Dan, Okay, let's talk about Dan Mullen

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Speaker 2: and University of Florida right as opposed to Power five

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Speaker 2: Each's identity is has so much in common with the

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Speaker 1: You're talking about like the Brad pittization of a relationship

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Speaker 1: He's with Jolie his hair is black. Like he takes

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Speaker 2: What I'm feeling about the Mullen Florida union here is

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Speaker 2: characteristics of Dan Mullen, that he's going to be successful there.

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Speaker 2: He's been successful there in the past, so he knows

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Speaker 1: It's a weird way to talk about a side of

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Speaker 2: We are so Herm Edwards Actually when he now's his

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Speaker 1: his own doing, but realizes perhaps some of the error

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00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,359
Speaker 1: of his ways, airs of his ways.

432
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 2: And.

433
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: Realizes that he's no good single. He needs someone needs

434
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: and he has a very specific energy to him. And

435
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: he was like, listen, I'm just going to find somebody

436
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: that's a good match. If they're tall, if they're short,

437
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: if they're old, if they're young, if they're loud, if

438
00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: they're quiet, I'm going to find somebody who I work

439
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,359
Speaker 1: out well with. And it just so happens this person

440
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 1: is young and lives in the sunshine, and there's not

441
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,920
Speaker 1: a ton of big expectations of him. They just want

442
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: to have a good time. Their personalities match. You know,

443
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: we like to look down on when we see that

444
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 1: famous people. You know, maybe an older man and a

445
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: younger woman or an older woman, whatever combination you're looking

446
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 1: for you have in mind, and we like to look

447
00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,400
Speaker 1: down and be like, what could they possibly have in common? Well,

448
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: here's the reaction if a seventy year old is with

449
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: a thirty year old, Say it's about a forty year

450
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: age gap. Thirty year old still an adult, right, we

451
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 1: shouldn't discount somebody. So I think we got to give

452
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: them a chance, even though it seems unconventional. I think

453
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,359
Speaker 1: once you hang out with them and you see the

454
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: experience of herm and his younger partner, ASU, you get it.

455
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: You understand what they're what they're doing together. I think

456
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: what you're saying, and I sort of vibe with this

457
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, this is they have uncomfortable double dates

458
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 1: with Michigan State.

459
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 2: They do, they do, They absolutely do. This is a

460
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:46,200
Speaker 2: new age relationship. Maybe they don't believe in the label marriage. Okay,

461
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 2: they're just together.

462
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: No, I think they're getting something out of each other.

463
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: Common law to some extent, I don't know.

464
00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:00,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think there's companionship. I think there's fun. Yeah, experimentation.

465
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, speaking of companionship, speaking of fun, Speaking

466
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 2: of experimentation, let's talk about Brett Bilima.

467
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's absolutely do it. Oh no, okay.

468
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 1: Bilamas from the Midwest.

469
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 2: He was at Wisconsin, had a stint at Arkansas.

470
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: Been out of the game.

471
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: For a couple of years now, he's coming back to

472
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,240
Speaker 2: the Midwest, going to Illinois after they part of ways

473
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 2: with love Smith. I have no idea how to feel

474
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 2: about this, Okay. I feel like, if you are Illinois,

475
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 2: you're in the situation where you're looking for a warm body.

476
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: You're looking for a warm body. You've heard all the stuff.

477
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: About Brett Bilima, mm hmm.

478
00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 2: You kind of just don't care though, You're kind of

479
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: just cool with it because you're in the market.

480
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: You're willing to give.

481
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: It a shot.

482
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: Incomes Brett Bieloma.

483
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 2: He's interested, willing to go to you know, the pub

484
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:19,439
Speaker 2: with you, throw a few back, tell some jokes, have

485
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,360
Speaker 2: a good time, make you feel young again.

486
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 1: Dan. So, in this situation, if I'm to understand you,

487
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: and please correct me if I'm wrong, is the background

488
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: check a chlamydia test.

489
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,640
Speaker 2: I'm not going quite to that extreme. Okay, all right,

490
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 2: but you've heard you know, you've heard rumblings. If you're Illinois,

491
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: you've heard rumblings and you're just willing to look past

492
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,000
Speaker 2: it because you're tired of being lonely.

493
00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: Man. You're tired of being lonely. I think there's an

494
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: element of familiarity with Brett Bielahma and that division that

495
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,560
Speaker 1: school that maybe Brett Bilama maybe this was similar. What

496
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,560
Speaker 1: was the movie Just Friends Ryan Reynolds? Is that the

497
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 1: movie Ryan Reynolds Amy Smart where he sings all for

498
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: one Gosh, you know what I'm talking about. No, I don't.

499
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 1: You've never seen Just Friends. I don't think so. Oh

500
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: it's a good movie. I think it's Anna Faris plays

501
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,440
Speaker 1: like a Britney Spears type. Anyway, Ryan Reynolds wears a fatsuit.

502
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: It's funny. There is that element of familiarity returning home

503
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Ish and Brett Bielma tried to make it out in

504
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 1: the big cities, out in the world and see how

505
00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 1: far he could go. And Illinois, I've been through some

506
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:37,199
Speaker 1: tough relationships. Yeah, and it's sort of everybody's hoping it's

507
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 1: right place, right time. Brett Bielima coming home. This is

508
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: who he always was, big ten kid Illinois looking for

509
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: somebody who gets them, understands their references. Went to high

510
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: school together, always sort of circled around each other, but

511
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: never really made it official. Coming together, and everybody's rooting

512
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: for it, right and hoping for the best that you know,

513
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,479
Speaker 1: Illinois has been down on their luck. Everybody's just they

514
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: want the best for Illinois. Rett Bielama had a rough

515
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,959
Speaker 1: go of things outside of Big ten West. Everybody just

516
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: everybody just wants it to work out. There's a real

517
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: Hallmark movie quality to this, islearly there is, Yes, there is.

518
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: There's a Hallmark quality to this where the investment banker

519
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: from Chicago goes on a retreat, no one of those

520
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: no phone retreats, right, just kind of home in Alabama

521
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: and reconnect and meets someone that runs like a very

522
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: rural tree farm, Yeah, and decides gonna give it all

523
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: up and help run the tree farm instead. Yeah. I

524
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: like that. So in this instance, maybe Brett Buelama worked

525
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: in corporate lumber, Yeah, and came home. It was like,

526
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: oh my god, Illinois. I don't know. We come from

527
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: different but at the same time they have so much

528
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: in common. Yeah.

529
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: People are either going to love this sh show or

530
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 2: that's what's gonna happen. That's true of most shows.

531
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,200
Speaker 1: That's what's that's what's gonna happen here.

532
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: Do you like this marriage? By the way, just like

533
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: superficially speaking, do we like Bilma and Illinois together.

534
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: I think I think they can open up a charming

535
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: used bookstore. They're never gonna hit the riches, but I

536
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: think they could become a staple of their community, and

537
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: so I'm rooting for that. Maybe serve some scones and tea.

538
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: I like it does not strike me as a scone

539
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 2: kind of guy.

540
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: Dan Oh multiple scones. I've seen the pictures of him.

541
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:44,480
Speaker 1: He's doing no fat shaming here. I just imagine he

542
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 1: likes multiple scones. I like multiple scones.

543
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 2: Sure, I just don't strike him as refined enough to

544
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: be into scones.

545
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm so insulting. He needs red meat.

546
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 2: That's what he needs. Okay, he's a growing boy. Uh

547
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 2: where do we want to go next?

548
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: Do you get to pick next? Let's go Miami in

549
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: Manny Diaz. Great hair, great hair.

550
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: I know you, yeah, yeah, great head of hair. Familiarity

551
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: with the area, Manny Diaz. If you're Miami, you're looking

552
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: at Manny Diaz has been there before. You've always sort

553
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: of known about Manny Diaz. He's always been in your circles.

554
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: Knows your hometown. Dad was the mayor your hometown.

555
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, who wouldn't want to have many Diaz in their arm.

556
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: Great head of hair.

557
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: Has definitely been somebody who has been talked about in

558
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 2: circles for many, many years. So whoever gets Manny Diaz

559
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 2: like they got it made? Where are they lucky now?

560
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: Now Miami's got Manny Daz correct. I don't know if

561
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 2: the early going with the Many Diaz thing has been

562
00:31:55,720 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 2: quite the the envious experience that the Hurricanes had expected

563
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: or hoped for. Now they were able to get dear King,

564
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: We're able to attract some talent, some flash trying to

565
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,280
Speaker 2: recapture that that swagger.

566
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: No, I think it was more than that though though

567
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: great defensive line last year, got after the quarterback, really

568
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: fun aggressive defense. Jalen Phillips Rochet, Yeah.

569
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: I mean I feel like the best is yet to

570
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 2: come of this relationship. I remain very hopeful here that

571
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: this is a relationship with a lot of unrealized potential.

572
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 2: It just might take some time. Like many relationships, it

573
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,600
Speaker 2: has to develop organically over the course of time. Many

574
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: Diaz is still trying to find his way here as

575
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 2: Hurricanes football coach. I I feel optimistic.

576
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 1: Here, Dan. Do you remember have you seen the movie

577
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: The Graduate? Yes? I have remember the ending scene with

578
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 1: stop the weddings, stop the window. It was also spoofed,

579
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 1: and I think it was Wayne' World two. There is

580
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: that element of Miami watching many Diaz as the coach

581
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: of Temple, knowing that they were more perfect for each

582
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: other as a couple banging on the glass, stop the

583
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 1: running away together themselves getting married, but not fully knowing

584
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 1: the rhythms of what a marriage would be like. I

585
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: think there's been a lot of swings, a lot of

586
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: ups and downs, and you look at some of the

587
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: downs last year, the Clemson game, the North Carolina game,

588
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: a lot of downs, and while the highs are high,

589
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 1: the lows are can be pretty embarrassingly low. And so

590
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: I think there's still a couple figuring things out that

591
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: some of the lunches together on double dates couldn't have

592
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: gone better. Some of the brunches, some of the dinners

593
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: really awkward for another couple or two that they're going

594
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: back at each other, and that's just it's it becomes

595
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 1: very awkward sort of the scene and breaking bad, you

596
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,399
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? The dinner with the dinner

597
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: and Paul sort of sipping the water uncomfortably looking back

598
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: and forth. There is that element to Miami and Many Diaz,

599
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: especially when you look at what quarterback look like before

600
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: Dearic King this year with the offense has done on

601
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: the ground or not done on the ground, committing too

602
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: many penalties. So I think people think they're going to

603
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: work it out, They're going to find their way. There's

604
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: too much that they love about each other for it

605
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: not to work out. But at the same time, you

606
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: never know if something's going to come up and bite them. Yeah,

607
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,399
Speaker 1: because there's just so much there's a lot of raw

608
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,920
Speaker 1: energy and passion between the two of them. Yeah, you

609
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: got to explain that.

610
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: It just sort of emanates off the two of them.

611
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 2: I do wonder if there is a quality to Miami

612
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: where they are more in love with the idea of

613
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 2: a many Daz than Many Daz himself.

614
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I see what you're saying, you know, And.

615
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 2: That worries me that if a year or two from now,

616
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: Miami has a bunch of friends sit it down and say, look,

617
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: they just not go anywhere.

618
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, is he gonna propose? Is he not going to propose?

619
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: Maybe they're not.

620
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 2: Even really married yet. I don't interesting, And I could

621
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: see Miami's friend group having a heart to heart with it, saying, look,

622
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 2: this isn't going anywhere, right, and that forces Miami to

623
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 2: a choice, a heartbreaking choice at that, because again, everyone's

624
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 2: rooting for this couple.

625
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

626
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 2: But I do worry that Miami may be more infatuated

627
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,880
Speaker 2: with the idea of a many Diaz and maybe not

628
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: just maybe not this one.

629
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: But then again, you see Miami and Manny Diaz do

630
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 1: karaoke together. They sing Islands in the Stream at Louisville,

631
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: and you're like, oh my god, what a couple. What

632
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 1: a couple.

633
00:36:01,600 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 2: Even when they're not doing kara they finish each other's sentences.

634
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: They are a very good match.

635
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: The best of them is just so easy. Yeah, but

636
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: there are those down moments.

637
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 2: Mac Brown in North Carolina, Dan, mm hmm. Yeah, let's

638
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 2: let's unpack this one a little bit more.

639
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: Mac Brown.

640
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 2: You talked earlier about the relationship between herm Edwards and

641
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 2: Asu the older gentleman, maybe right, younger spouse. Is that

642
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 2: not true for mac Brown?

643
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: Yes? I think they were. They were high school sweethearts

644
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 1: and for whatever reason doesn't work out, they are going

645
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,479
Speaker 1: to get married and have kids in their their town,

646
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: their hometown. But then mac Brown wanted to go away

647
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: to college. Maybe he went away to war war and

648
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: things just changed. Am I comparing the University of Texas

649
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: to went to war? Oh, a combat zone abroad, somewhat

650
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: somewhat went to war. He's not one hundred years old.

651
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: But Okay, I know, I know. No, I think it's

652
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: one of those things. Of course that mac Brown thought

653
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: he was going to have it better elsewhere, and for

654
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: a long time he did. But there's just there's nothing

655
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: like coming home. There's nothing like coming home ty, coming

656
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: back where the people appreciate you for who you are,

657
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: not for who you aren't. How about that? I do

658
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: you know?

659
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: So if we if we look at herm in ASU,

660
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: you talk about one partner who is generations older.

661
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 1: M hm than the other.

662
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: I feel like that is the case to some extent

663
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 2: with Mac and UNC. But UN sees more of an

664
00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: old soul like it sort of fits. And plus there

665
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: is more familiarity there. They do know each other, and

666
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: I think Mack Brown has proved an adaptability. He really

667
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: has these first couple of years where he's been with

668
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 2: UNC or back with UNC. Now it's been really successful.

669
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 2: They have for sure gone places, gone to new heights

670
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 2: in these first couple of years in a way that

671
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: I don't think many of us in college, forble media expected.

672
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 2: Everybody likes mac Brown. Everybody is rooting for mac Brown.

673
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: No one was rooting actively against mac Brown unless you're

674
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 2: maybe a Duke fan. I don't even know if Duke

675
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 2: fans care about this football rivalry. But Mac Brown has

676
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 2: clearly I think, proven his metal here. So I root

677
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 2: for this couple. Mac Brown is damn likable. UNC has

678
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: had flashes over the years, They've had stars move through

679
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: that football program. Going to pretend that it's been like

680
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: a sustained chain of success at Chapel Hill in the

681
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 2: football field, it hasn't right, kind of an unknown quantity there.

682
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: So I feel a sense of joy and optimism for

683
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 2: this relationship.

684
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: I think you're leaving out something important. I think the

685
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: fire is burning. Yeah, I think so. I'm not even

686
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 1: talking embers. I'm talking big flames.

687
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 2: Tie.

688
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: I think people expected happy little marriage, see the grandkids,

689
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, have fun, But there is so much more

690
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: passion behind closed doors.

691
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: You're thinking this is a Viager commercial, aren't you.

692
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm thinking this is can remember the commercial with the

693
00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: couple each in their own bathtub side by side. I

694
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: don't know if we're talking about two bathtubs tie.

695
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 2: And that's that's a little weird for this show. But

696
00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 2: I get you, is that a visual you want to

697
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: go to? But no, I did get a visual there,

698
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: and it does disturb me at least.

699
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: A little bit.

700
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, a lot of like flirtatious glances, you know,

701
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 2: just vague flirtatious glances like you'd see on one of

702
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 2: those lagger commercials.

703
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 1: Yep.

704
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 2: I think that's what we're talking about here where it's

705
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: like they don't come out and say it because that

706
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: be too much for a commercial, but you know, you

707
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 2: know what they're getting at.

708
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, No, I think the sparks of flying TI

709
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah hmm, okay. Scott Frost and Nebraska Dan, I worry

710
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: about this relationship. I worry there. I mean, they're what

711
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 1: on again, off again?

712
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 2: I worry there's double heartbreak on the horizon. I worry

713
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: that Scott Frost went back home. It was comfortable and

714
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 2: made a lot of sense. May have felt pressured into

715
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 2: this marriage either by his parents someone else. Parents don't know.

716
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 2: And on the flip side, Nebraska, look, it made a

717
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: lot more sense for Nebraska than maybe it ever did

718
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: for Scott Frost. Sure, here we are all the success

719
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 2: he had. Yeah, here we are a little bit on

720
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: the rocks. Dan Fair to say a little on the rocks.

721
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: I think Nebraska in this situation or Scott Frost in

722
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,240
Speaker 1: this situation. One of them is did you watch Parks

723
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 1: and rec.

724
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: Sorry taking a sip? No, not, not to the extent

725
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: that you did.

726
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: I have seen a lot of volatility. There's there's a

727
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: tammy Tooo situation plagued by Megan Malley and then Ron Swanson,

728
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: of course Nick Offerman there it's just an on again,

729
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: off again relationship. Of course, Scott Frost initially goes to Stanford,

730
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: comes back home to Nebraska where he succeeds, leaves, you know,

731
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: he's at what Northern Iowa and Oregon and UCF and

732
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: comes back home. Can't quit each other on again, off

733
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:05,319
Speaker 1: again coming home. But what's the adage? Ty, you can

734
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: never truly go home. And there is that element that

735
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 1: volatility there as well, where they just didn't think about

736
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: what they were getting into with each other. Yeah, they

737
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: didn't realize the baggage involved when they thought, well, this

738
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: is perfect we have all the same old friends, same

739
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 1: old stomping grounds, but they didn't realize same old issues.

740
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 2: Issues Scott Frost didn't know about like the forty thousand

741
00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:36,200
Speaker 2: dollars in credit card debt, Like just little things like that.

742
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry that's attached to me now too. That's the rule?

743
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 1: What Yeah?

744
00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of situations where his name is the

745
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: only one on the car loan and he's fine with

746
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 2: it because there is a genuine love there. But should

747
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 2: he choose to go elsewhere it doesn't wash off?

748
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, you're not wrong.

749
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 2: Scott Frost, nebrascal, watch out. SAME's headed for splitzwell crazy kids. Yeah,

750
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 2: not Mike Gundy in Oklahoma State. They've been together a

751
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: long time. Yeah, Mike Gundy may fall a little bit

752
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: into that category where the partner's wondering, Okay, what'd you

753
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 2: say out in public? What you wear out in public?

754
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Maybe not the proudest of that, but yeah, it's they've

755
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 2: been together.

756
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 1: For so long. Mm hmm, you sort of accept the

757
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: other for who they've become.

758
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: It's okay for the most part.

759
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: I think they've been snappy with each other at family functions,

760
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,799
Speaker 1: you think, and it embarrasses the hell out of their

761
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: kids and grandkids.

762
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 2: So I'm assuming you're saying that Mike Gundy is the

763
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: one who's been the embarrassing party.

764
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: Uh yeah for the most part. Yeah, Mike Gundy in

765
00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: front of the worlds, in front of you know, the

766
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: family functions, weddings, confirmations, bar mitzvahs, you name it. So

767
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: it's just you gotta take what he says with the

768
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: grain of salt, because people are gonna get a little

769
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 1: bit riled up about him and his kids. His grandkids

770
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 1: know that, like, well, that's just that's just old pop Pop.

771
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: It's gonna say some stuff. But at the same time,

772
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: like he's losing friends. M h cousins stops showing up

773
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,400
Speaker 1: at the functions, right one of the kids makes up

774
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 1: it makes up an excuse. A kid makes up an

775
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: excuse not to come. I think there's that element where

776
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: maybe Oklahoma State and Mike Gundy, behind closed doors, it's

777
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: been more of a marriage of convenience. They both have

778
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: these great jobs. You know, they got this great house,

779
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: everything's going with, the kids are great every you know,

780
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: they seem like they have a good life publicly, but

781
00:44:56,040 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: behind closed doors, there's a lot of concern. There lot

782
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: of animosity. This is a situation where maybe, like Mike

783
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,800
Speaker 1: Gundy's a little too active on Facebook. Oh yeah, definitely.

784
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 2: All the family members are friends with him, but maybe

785
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 2: have muted him.

786
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,600
Speaker 1: They have all muted him. They've all muted.

787
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, to the extent where there's big news

788
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: in the Gundhi family and a lot of those closest

789
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 2: to him family members don't actually know about it because

790
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: they've just they've muted that social media feed.

791
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: Oh definitely.

792
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying this, you know, I'm not even

793
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: touching up against the political angle here, which we know exists.

794
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 2: But maybe he's just an oversharer yep. Uses Facebook like

795
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 2: it's Twitter. We all know people like that.

796
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Got to get every thought out there, got

797
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:54,320
Speaker 1: to get it out there. A lot of uncomfortable memes. Yeah,

798
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: you feel a little bit for Oklahoma State because nobody

799
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 1: can really remember or picture them with anybody else. But

800
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:02,359
Speaker 1: also appears Oklahoma State has a track record of not

801
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 1: having the best spouses, having the best taste, and.

802
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:11,719
Speaker 2: Maybe Oklahoma States liked the couple of those posts has

803
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: encouraged some of that social media behavior.

804
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yeah, I think that's right. Yeah, I

805
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:22,399
Speaker 1: think they're you know, we can remember the good year

806
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: as well, but it's hard to ignore the full picture.

807
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: I still don't ever see this going for Splitsville. Wow, Okay,

808
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: I really don't.

809
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:37,399
Speaker 1: Could you see Gundhy cheating on Oklahoma State or sort

810
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: of ending things? Ending things? Maybe? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Which

811
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 1: do you think would end things? First? It seems like

812
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: Gundhi's tried to end things. Gundhi's had wandering eyes and

813
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: just thinking that, you know, maybe this spouse isn't good

814
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: enough for him. Yeah, maybe there's a better spouse in Knoxville.

815
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 1: But ultimately, Oklahoma State has been the most familiar. Ultimately,

816
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: he's a still water guy, has the long track record.

817
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: But at this point, I think he may have missed

818
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 1: his window. I think he's got a little saggy saggy

819
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: watch out. Yeah, I think his hearing's going a little bit.

820
00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: I just think the appeal of Mike Gundy to another

821
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 1: school perhaps wasn't what it was in twenty fourteen. Final two.

822
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 1: Mature and gravity have taken its course.

823
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 2: Final two, and I feel like each is on a

824
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 2: different side of the relationship spectrum.

825
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

826
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: On one hand, we've got Luke Fickle and Cincinnati. On

827
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 2: the other we've got gusmels On and UCF. Yeah, so

828
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,399
Speaker 2: of course we know the drill here. Luke Fickle has

829
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: been tremendously successful in his relationship with Cincinnati, so much

830
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: so that definitely a lot of wandering guys out there,

831
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 2: people asking the questions on him though, on him, on him,

832
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 2: do you want to be the fouk Fickle? And on

833
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 2: the flip side, with gusmels On, who was a darling

834
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: for many years with Auburn Tigers, that relationship recently dissolved,

835
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 2: UCF was in a position needed that warm body quick

836
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:18,759
Speaker 2: they're able to pick up Gus mels On.

837
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, I have I'm going to try to be

838
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,000
Speaker 1: vague about this, okay, please do. I have a friend

839
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:37,360
Speaker 1: who's friends with a or friendly with a moderately famous actor,

840
00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 1: and when that actor was younger and began dating his

841
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: now wife, his friends all said, she's real nice, not

842
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: what I expected from somebody he would date. Oh, very different, okay,

843
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:59,840
Speaker 1: real sweet, just not what we'd expected for them for

844
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 1: him in a long term relationship. So that's not a compliment.

845
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: It's different. No, no, no, not a compliment. Hard to take

846
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 1: that as a compliment. If somebody's immediately talking about your

847
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: personality and not necessarily the full picture, then not full compliment.

848
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 2: Now it doesn't feel like a compliment the way that

849
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:20,719
Speaker 2: you describe it.

850
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: But everybody thinks this pseudo famous actor is great, great looking, charming, funny,

851
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: just like huh, that's a different direction than what I

852
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: would have expected. And Luke Fikele clearly loves Cincinnati, feels

853
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: like Cincinnati is great for him, has turned down the

854
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: wandering eyes of others, and Luke Fickel is he's done

855
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 1: such a great job in this relationship. Super attentive, organized, considerate,

856
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: still brings the fire. I mean, Luke Fikele and Cincinnati

857
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,279
Speaker 1: and arrest on bathroom. You didn't hear it from me,

858
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: but is the complete complete package. The concern, though, is

859
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 1: Luke Fikel wants to build a bigger house. Luke Fikel

860
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: wants to go on bigger vacations, and Cincinnati's just like, well,

861
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 1: I like our little cottage. Well, you know, I like

862
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: going to the Poconos, I like going to the Adirondacks.

863
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: I don't know about Europe, I don't know about Asia.

864
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: You're saying this is an introvert extrovert. I think there

865
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: is that element where it plays really well. There's a

866
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 1: good yin and yang to Luke Fickle Cincinnati, but maybe

867
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: there's a more pronounced yang to Fickle's y. Have you

868
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: ever taken the Myers Briggs test? I haven't, and I'm terrified. Yeah.

869
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's a real scientific measure,

870
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 2: but it's a measure of something, and I think it's

871
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: something like they say you're a good match if you've

872
00:50:56,680 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: got three of the same letters, but each of you has,

873
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:03,960
Speaker 2: you know, or maybe it's two of the same letters.

874
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 2: There's some overlap there that if you get your four

875
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,000
Speaker 2: letters and it's relatively the same as somebody else, that

876
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 2: it's usually a good measure that it's going to be

877
00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 2: a decent match. I feel like maybe only one of

878
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: the letters is a match here, and Luke Fickle's happy

879
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 2: where he's at doesn't mean everything to him. But over

880
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:26,759
Speaker 2: the long haul, that's when the personalities come out. That's

881
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: when Luke Fickle starts looking in the mirror and saying,

882
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: do I really want this?

883
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,879
Speaker 1: Is what's You're also talking about Cincinnati being the one

884
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: to notice him he's flying beneath the surface, beneath the radar.

885
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: Nobody's considering Luke Fickle to be the next great husband,

886
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: but Cincinnati's had their eye on him for quite some

887
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: time and he completely fulfilled and beyond Bearcat's expectations. And

888
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 1: so there's that sense of loyalty that lists the pop singar.

889
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: This is the pop star who had the high school spouse.

890
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: I guess not high school spouse, maybe I don't know. No,

891
00:52:04,239 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 1: do your thing, Jerry Lee Lewis this one the high

892
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: school partner? Yeah, and then blew up and got famous.

893
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: And in this case, Luke Fickle to pop stars still

894
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,760
Speaker 1: with that high school sweetheart. Sure. Interesting, but you kind

895
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: of know, you kind of know that with Luke Fickle

896
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 1: going on tour and it's just gonna be tough. It's

897
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: gonna be there in two different wavelengths in terms of

898
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: how well known each entity is.

899
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: They're going to have a come to Jesus moment where

900
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 2: they both just get it out in different places in life.

901
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: Get it out in the open.

902
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,320
Speaker 2: I feel like this is going to be an amicable

903
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: breakup when it happens, it will happen, It's gonna be

904
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:52,600
Speaker 2: amicable and they're both publicly and I think genuinely going

905
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,600
Speaker 2: to root for each other, stay friends with the kids,

906
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 2: stay friends for the kids. It's going to be a

907
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: good religationship.

908
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: Luke Fikel has a good relationship with new Dad at Cincinnati.

909
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, here's where the circuit breaker is.

910
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,520
Speaker 2: Maybe he has extra tickets to the game and invites

911
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 2: him a long.

912
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, a seamless transition.

913
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 2: Meant the new dad too, Yeah, sure, could be a

914
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,800
Speaker 2: friend of his, could be yeah, could be interesting.

915
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: Interesting. I think we're on the same page. I think

916
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:29,680
Speaker 1: we're lying there. Do we have any other names here

917
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: that we need to come I think Gus Malson is

918
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: clearly somebody who was in a very trying relationship ultimately

919
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: was dumped but got a great beach house out of

920
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: it and just just wants to boogie board, drink a

921
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: cold beer with somebody, toes in the sand and found

922
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: somebody who just wants to be chill. Founds that that

923
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: match and I think easy to get along with bunching.

924
00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: They love the same stuff on Netflix. She loves that

925
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: he has glasses, like there's just it's just easy. Is

926
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,840
Speaker 1: he easy to ree the character from forgetting Sarah Marshall.

927
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, he wasn't a love story participants in that movie,

928
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, just a free spirit. There's some pain behind

929
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: those eyes. He saw it with UCF. Yeah. Maybe you

930
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 1: know what, I'll go a different Paul Red movie if

931
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: you will allow me to. What if he is the

932
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: Jason Siegel character from I Love You Man. It's living

933
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: in Venice, eating fish tacos, doing his thing. Doesn't have

934
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,479
Speaker 1: to worry about the rat race downtown. Been there, done

935
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: that right, living in a cottage. H Will he get

936
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: put into a headlock and put to sleep by the

937
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 1: Hulk Lufarigno? Maybe? Maybe in that case, I guess that

938
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: is Luke Fickle in Cincinnati. But yeah, I think there's

939
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: a big sigh of relief from gustmels On. Yeah, he

940
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,440
Speaker 1: was walking on eggshells with his ax, didn't want to

941
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: say the wrong thing, didn't want to put the remote

942
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 1: control in the wrong place. She was always going to

943
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 1: yell at him for something. And now he just has

944
00:55:27,160 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: a weight off of his shoulders. Boogie board, eat fish tacos,

945
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: and exhale. This has been one of the weirdest shows

946
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: we've ever done in Orlando, Florida. Nowhere near the beach.

947
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh no, okay, so right in solid Verboat gmail

948
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 2: dot com.

949
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,759
Speaker 1: Let us know your thoughts on each of our breakdowns

950
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: as well as the concept here. I think people are

951
00:55:55,080 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: going to have very strong opinions.

952
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 2: It will go one way or the other. I can

953
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:01,239
Speaker 2: tell you yeah, they're going to love it or hate it.

954
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 2: Maybe not to the Moana extreme.

955
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,239
Speaker 1: We've done this show before. I think like twenty seventeen

956
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,920
Speaker 1: maybe I think that might have been more risque the

957
00:56:10,960 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen probably. Yeah, now we're old. Can I ask

958
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: you a question? It depends. Here's what we're to do here.

959
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question, but here's what

960
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,799
Speaker 1: we're gonna do. You've been dodging my podcast within a

961
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: podcast called How's Your Marriage for so long. What I

962
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: want you to do is I want you to start

963
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,480
Speaker 1: answering this question. But as you start answering the question,

964
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: I want you to in post fade out your answer

965
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: and put on some sort of Divorgeac track as an

966
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: ode to Jade hoy Socer producer in the NBA universe.

967
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: And we are only going to put this podcast within

968
00:56:47,239 --> 00:56:51,440
Speaker 1: a podcast available. We're going to make it available to

969
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: our patrons. W You can learn more for Ballers dot

970
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:56,560
Speaker 1: com for a limited time.

971
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: This is the first I'm hearing of this, but so

972
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: far I'm okay.

973
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: With This is the plan I thought about when we

974
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 1: were walking, because I have so many questions for this

975
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: podcast within a podcast for some people How's your Marriage?

976
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: And I want you to I think we we can

977
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,560
Speaker 1: use whatever language we want to use. And I don't

978
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: think this will become available to anybody. You don't want

979
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: it to become avail, won't I want?

980
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 2: On my end, this is a huge bear trap that

981
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 2: I inadvertently walked into.

982
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 1: Correct. Yeah, so here's what we're gonna do. Because we

983
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 1: we love hanging out with everybody in our Patreon dot

984
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,600
Speaker 1: com ors dot com. This secret podcast within a podcast

985
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: called How's Your Marriage is only going to be available

986
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:46,280
Speaker 1: there if people want to learn about our marriages. That's

987
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: that's all? Is that? Okay? So? Can I can I

988
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: ask you how's your marriage? Is it good? My marriage

989
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: is terrific? Yes? How about you? Well, I'm glad you asked.

990
00:57:54,880 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 1: I have some thoughts. Okay, that's the end. How I

991
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:13,840
Speaker 1: don't know how long that went, twenty minutes or so

992
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: of How's your Marriage? Yeah? I honestly, this is this

993
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: is totally true. I'm not just saying this to say it.

994
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: That was probably the most open you've ever been. Yeah,

995
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: most vulnerable and revealing. I cried a little bit. I'm

996
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: totally serious. This is not a bit. I learned stuff

997
00:58:32,800 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 1: during that about your marriage. I'm not glad to learn

998
00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 1: it and me of you. But hold on, can we

999
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 1: dive in real quick? We just got done. We just

1000
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: dove out. Oh okay, fine, fine, it'll be part two,

1001
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: Part two, Part two, Okay, cools dot com. That was intense.

1002
00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,880
Speaker 2: So look soliverbal at gmail dot com. Again is the email,

1003
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: follow us on social the Patreon forballers dot.

1004
00:58:55,320 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: Com where you can go to fund the goods.

1005
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 2: Also going out to the website seliverbal com. We got

1006
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 2: a newsletter. Sign up form there says join the newsletter.

1007
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 2: It's in a big yellow box. It gives your email.

1008
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 2: We're not gonna spam you. We're gonna send you fun stuff,

1009
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 2: we promise.

1010
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,480
Speaker 1: I like hearing that. I think that's all I have. Dan.

1011
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 1: Should we do a housier marriage newsletter written by our spouses?

1012
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: The top and bottom five things about Ty and Dan? Yeah,

1013
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: that could be sign up for the newsletter of intenth.

1014
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: My guess is that both would say we're not as

1015
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: funny as we think. Oh my god, do you have

1016
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: the thing where they tell you that you recycle the

1017
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: same jokes. It's so I've made this joke to you

1018
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: and you think it's funny, which might mean that we're

1019
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: a better parent we are with our spouses. But my

1020
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: webinar goof the webinar, I love the webinar goof Jody

1021
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: does not no and have I done it on the show?

1022
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 1: I think you've done it multiple I think I have

1023
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 1: yeah where I get something. Yeah, I get something mildly right.

1024
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,200
Speaker 1: And then I explained to you that you can be

1025
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: as bright as I am by taking my webinar. Jody

1026
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: is not a fan. Wow really where like I explain

1027
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,280
Speaker 1: something that turns out to be true. I may explained

1028
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: Dan explain something obnoxiously, but it turns out to be true.

1029
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: And then I say, you know there's more here that

1030
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: I can share knowledge wise. If you just go to

1031
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: Santa Humstein dot net, there's my webinar. I can get

1032
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: the free webinar. Hates that with a fiery passion.

1033
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 2: I like that goof and I find that she's not

1034
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:31,680
Speaker 2: wrong when she says that I recycled the same content

1035
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 2: over of course, I just continue to think it's funny.

1036
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:42,280
Speaker 1: And she does not. That's the issue. Okay, that's Jody.

1037
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: Don't lave us, Yeah, please don't.

1038
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: This has been our marriage show, yes, our steamy marriage

1039
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 2: college football show.

1040
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:54,480
Speaker 1: Indeed right in let us know your thoughts. We will

1041
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: be back.

1042
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:57,480
Speaker 2: It is our public Q and a episode do one

1043
01:00:58,080 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 2: every month here in the office season. You can find

1044
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 2: out more about that on the Thursday download, which is

1045
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:08,040
Speaker 2: coming your way. Dan, you put a call out to

1046
01:01:08,120 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 2: folks asking what do you and I continuously get wrong?

1047
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: Yes, about your team, about any team, about any college

1048
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: football topic, or about any non college football topic. What

1049
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: do Tye and Dan get annoyingly and consistently wrong on

1050
01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: the show, and be specific because we get a lot wrong.

1051
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: So we are going to address this. This is our

1052
01:01:35,720 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 1: either maya Kulpa or double down show.

1053
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 2: It'll be fun for that guy over there, my good

1054
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 2: friend Dan Rubinstein, for myself, Tie Hildebrand. We'll talk to

1055
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,960
Speaker 2: you all on Thursday in the meantimes day Sung Peace,