1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast, Our two of Clay in Buck gets 3 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: going right now, everybody, thank you very much for being here. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: And the positions of various GOP contenders on Ukraine. It's 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: something that got a bit of attention last night. Tucker 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: Carlson reached out his show and reached out to contenders 7 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: for the GOP domination because we now have a full 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: scale war going on in Europe between two advanced industrialized 9 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: economies and one of them has a whole lot of 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: nukes and a whole lot of energy reserves, and this 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: is a big deal. It's also in the backdrop of 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: all the things we're seeing economically play out right now too. 13 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: You can't just leave all this stuff on the side. 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: This is factoring into the sense of public unease right now. 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this, Does it feel like things 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: are good right now in the country honestly economically? Does 17 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: it feel like things are good? On the world stage. 18 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: Biden is soon to be out there telling everybody he 19 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: is running for reelection and what a great economy it is. 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,199 Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to make these claims. The media 21 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: is going to back him up. And I'm just here 22 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: to tell you they're lying to you. They're lying. Do 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: you you know that? But get ready for it because 24 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: it should annoy you. It should be something that you 25 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: find very frustrating. There should be a part of you 26 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: that feels like, Wow, they are brazen, because what's their 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: alternative to admit that Biden is an imbecile to agree 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: with Republicans that many of the things, whether it's the 29 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: reduction in pursuing fossil fuels that has happened because of 30 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: the Biden administration, the decisions that have been made across 31 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: the board when it comes to regulation, taxation, that all 32 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: these things make us poorer, more depressed, less free as 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: a nation, less prosperous. No, they're never going to met 34 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: any of that. But Biden's got his handsful right now 35 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: because there's only so much the media can do to 36 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: make things seem better than they are. And on the 37 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:24,520 Speaker 1: issue of Ukraine and Russia, I do think that the 38 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: GOP is going to have a bit of a fight 39 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: on its hands here. Internally, Democrats are they're the party 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,080 Speaker 1: of if there's a war that we can fund or 41 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: fight in that doesn't actually benefit America, Democrats are all in. 42 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: Democrats and Lindsay Graham, sign them up, I mean, not 43 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: to fight, but sign them up to send your children 44 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: and your money to that conflict. Republicans at least tend 45 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: to be more likely to there a lot of there's 46 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: a lot of provisos, a lot of caveats in this 47 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: because I just mentioned that Lindsay Am but there are 48 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: others as well. But there are at least conservatives within 49 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 1: the GOP tent who if there's gonna be a war, 50 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 1: it's to protect us and protect our interests. Maybe maybe 51 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: they're wrong about those interests, or maybe they're miscalculating, but 52 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: at least that's their purpose. So what are we doing 53 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: in Ukraine right now? And one are the various candidates 54 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:25,799 Speaker 1: for on the Republican side think about it. I thought 55 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: it was very interesting that you had Ron de Santis, 56 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: who is not yet running for president, and everyone is 57 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: assuming that he will run, but we're not certain of 58 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 1: that obviously hasn't happened yet. Here's what he shed about 59 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: America's objective in Ukraine. And again hat tip to Tucker's 60 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: show forgetting this information. And Tucker read this on Fox 61 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: last night without question Peace should be the objective. The 62 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: US should not provide assistance that could require the deployment 63 00:03:56,920 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 1: of American troops or enable Ukraine to engage in offensive 64 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: operations beyond its borders. F sixteens and long range missiles 65 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 1: should therefore be off the table. These moves would risk 66 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: explicitly drawing the United States into the conflict and drawing 67 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 1: US closer to a hot war between the world's two 68 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 1: largest nuclear powers. That risk is unacceptable. I agree that 69 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: risk is unacceptable. I think that is an eloquent and 70 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: well thought out position from Rhonda Santists on this one. 71 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: Trump was in Iowa, and I mean he put this in. 72 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: He also responded in writing, but I thought that he'd 73 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: better to hear this that Trump said, this is clip three. 74 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 1: He is the only candidate who will make this promise 75 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: that he will prevent World War three. Play it standing 76 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: before you today. I am the only candidate who can 77 00:04:55,440 --> 00:05:00,320 Speaker 1: make this promise I will prevent World War three, because 78 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 1: I really believe you're going to have he will prevent 79 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: world Now, that's an important promise to be able to keep. 80 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: That's something that really we all, you know what we're all. 81 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: I would well, I think all Democrats would even go 82 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 1: along with that one. Certainly all same people would go 83 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: along with wanting a future Trump administration to be successful 84 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: in keeping the promise of averting World War three. I 85 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: think that's a that's a big deal. We all know that, 86 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: So that's a central issue. I think you're going to 87 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: see this getting fought out a whole lot more in public. 88 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: I also think you're going to see an increase in 89 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 1: the kinds of technology and the personnel and everything else 90 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: that the Russians and the Ukrainians are putting onto their 91 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: front lines. Going into the spring fighting season, the Russians 92 00:05:55,440 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: have reportedly had a massive call up of more not 93 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: just reserve US but conscripts. So this is going to 94 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,039 Speaker 1: be a fight that gets even bloodier, and it's going 95 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 1: to go on for years. And the US has to 96 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: understand now and has to have the discussion now about 97 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: what our objectives are war and peace. This stuff really matters, 98 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: matters to all of us. We've gone through twenty years 99 00:06:20,279 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: of the American people having our men and women in 100 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: uniform deployed overseas. Trump got us to the end of it. 101 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,599 Speaker 1: Biden did pull the troops out of Afghanistan, and you know, 102 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: I keep saying this because I just want to make 103 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 1: sure that we don't have four more years of Democrat 104 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,679 Speaker 1: because that's really forget. Biden is just the puppet Democrat regime, 105 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: Democrat apparatus running the country. He is going to point 106 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: to Afghanistan as a success, and it's going to resonate 107 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: with a lot of people, not the war as a success, 108 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: obviously the withdrawal, because memories are fading about what a 109 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: debacle the actual withdrawal was and who we left behind 110 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: mind and all people will know is when Biden says, 111 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: you know, I pulled out the troops. He did, so 112 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: that's going to be a useful narrative for him. The 113 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,280 Speaker 1: same way you're seeing Biden moderate on he's moditoring on 114 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 1: fossil fuels. You see, he just is going to approve 115 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: this project. The environmentalists are all upset about it. He's 116 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: moderated on police. See he's saying we need more cops 117 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: and he's not defund the police. And the Biden that 118 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: you and I know, as in the Democrat administration that 119 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: currently exists, isn't what is going to be presented to 120 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: swing voters to independence and Arizona Michigan, Wisconsin, Georgia, Pennsylvania. 121 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: You get it. That's not what's what All the ads 122 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: they're gonna run and all the media narrative is going 123 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: to be, Oh, Joe Biden. Yeah, he's a moderate, he's 124 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: a moderate. I want to get to how much of 125 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: a lie that is in a moment, but I want 126 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 1: everyone to understand that that's where this is going, that 127 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: the reality of Joe. You're not running against the reality 128 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden, a decrepid, old buffoon who spent decades 129 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: doing whatever would keep him in power in Delaware as 130 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: a senator, you know, as a machine politician for the 131 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: Democrat Party who was a joke to Democrats until five 132 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: minutes ago. That's not who you ran against. Was, you know, 133 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: moderate normalcy, always always grinning at people and saying that 134 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: he feels their pain, and yeah, you know, we're all 135 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: just human beings. Let's all just hug it out. It 136 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: was the whole thing was a farce. He's the president. 137 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: Now you're going to be running against the fiction that 138 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: they're able to create with grains of truth behind it 139 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: about Joe Biden. So understand that. Okay, that's one part 140 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: of this and then there's this from from Donald Trump. 141 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: I am a two time Trump voter. I think that 142 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: Donald Trump, I'm wait, yes, sorry, two times I was 143 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,720 Speaker 1: like he didn't get two terms. Two time Trump voter 144 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: obviously voted from in twenty sixteen and in twenty twenty. 145 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: I think Trump did a very good job as president. 146 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: There are some areas where I wish things had been 147 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: a little different, but overall, a very good job as president. 148 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:11,920 Speaker 1: And I think that he has a lot to bring 149 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: to the table now and I think he could be 150 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: a very good president in his second term. I also 151 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 1: think that he needs to have people around him who 152 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: will tell him the truth, the truth about some of 153 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 1: the positions he's taken. By the way, recently, some of 154 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: the videos he's put out, some of the policy ideas 155 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: really engaging, really worthwhile stuff shows both the ability to 156 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: learn and the ability to project division for the future 157 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: that I think would be quite good for the country. 158 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: But then there's other stuff that comes out sometimes and 159 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: I just look at this and I say, what is this? 160 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,599 Speaker 1: What is this all about? Why is Trump taking this approach? 161 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: Who is advising him or maybe it's just Trump himself, 162 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: but he needs advisors then to tell him, this is 163 00:09:56,240 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: not the way, sir, talk about you as the leader 164 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: of the party with great ideas that will raise up 165 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: all Republicans and with it the entire nation be bigger 166 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: than some of the petty stuff. This isn't twenty sixteen. 167 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: You're not the guy that everyone's laughing at who has 168 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 1: to show everybody who you know, the real, the real 169 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: alpha dog is right that it's not twenty sixteen. You 170 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: have been the president. There has to be a change. 171 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: And I bring it up because that he put out 172 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: this video and I want you to hear it. And 173 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 1: if you think I'm missing this or whatever, by all means, 174 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: I want to open up the lines. Like I said, 175 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: I want to encourage the best of Trump, the best 176 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: of his ideas, the best of what he's got. And 177 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: you know we are in a primary officially, and so 178 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:45,839 Speaker 1: when I see this video, I think, no, no, no, 179 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 1: this is not This is not people. By the way 180 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: people say that it's it's funny. If I say maga, 181 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 1: they say you're supposed to say maga. And if I 182 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 1: say maga, people yell at me and say it's supposed 183 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 1: to be maga. I mean, I think this is tomato Tomato. Right. Anyway, 184 00:11:01,240 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: here is Donald Trump praising well you'll hear for yourself. 185 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: Play clip one. For those of you that didn't notice, 186 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Florida was doing great long before Rond Sanctus got there. 187 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,200 Speaker 1: People are fleeing from New York to Florida and other 188 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: places because of high taxes and out of control crime. 189 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: It's really bad, not because of the governor. Thank you, 190 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 1: mister President for doing that. But it's not because of 191 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: the governor. Florida was doing fantastically. You had a governor 192 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: named Rick Scott who did a very good job. Even 193 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: Charlie Chris the Democrat, did a good job, but he 194 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: had very good numbers. Sunshine and ocean are very alluring. 195 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,120 Speaker 1: It's not too hard to work with those factors. So 196 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: just remember Florida was doing really well long before Rond 197 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: Sanctis got there. Okay, first of all, this Sanctus nickname 198 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: Trump Trump's nicknames used to crumble his opponents. Okay, a 199 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: low energy Jeb. Jeb never covered for his presidency, never 200 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: or a presidential campaign. Never recovered from that little Marco 201 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: right with with Marco Rubio that was at the time. 202 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, some people say that this stuff 203 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 1: is unfair and it's childish, But I'm just saying, at 204 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,440 Speaker 1: the time these things worked, say what you will about them, 205 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: they worked. The sanctus I don't, I don't. I don't 206 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: think so, I don't. I guess it's sanctimony, is what 207 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,719 Speaker 1: we're kind of going for here. It's just it's not 208 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: clever enough, it's not worthy of Trumpian nickname. It's just 209 00:12:30,520 --> 00:12:33,880 Speaker 1: it's just not gonna work. So I'm here to just 210 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: be honest with all of you about what I see 211 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 1: happening here in this primary. Look, it's still super early. 212 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: Descendus isn't even in the primary, so why is he 213 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: attacking a popular Republican governor. And then on the issue 214 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: of what's happened in Florida, if all of you knew, 215 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: the number of people in conservative media who have moved 216 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: to Florida in the last three years is mind blowing. 217 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 1: There's been nothing like this ever before in my lifetime 218 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 1: in this country. So many of your favorite commentators, TV, radio, podcasts, 219 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: you name it have moved to Florida and either doing 220 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: partially you know, six months of the year or something 221 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: like that, or here year round. And it's because this 222 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: has become a symbol of something, something is happening in 223 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 1: this state that the right and conservatism is seizing on. 224 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: There's a momentum here. And you see this from the 225 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 1: eight hundred thousand people who have I'm in Florida right now. 226 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: You see this from the eight hundred thousand people who 227 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: have moved to Florida since the beginning of the pandemic. 228 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: You see this from the lowest crime rate the state 229 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: has had in fifty years. It's always it's always had 230 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: great weather, it's always had you in recent memory, at 231 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: least low or no state taxes on income. So that's 232 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,240 Speaker 1: not going to cut it. And it was the best 233 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: state to be in during COVID. I know because I 234 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: was in New Yorker who had come down to Florida 235 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: during COVID to experience normalcy when other states and other 236 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: places I remember, I mean Texas, I was very disappointed 237 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: in Texas during the pandemic. I love the state of Texas. 238 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: I've thought about moving there to live many times in 239 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: my life. But during the pandemic, Abbott was not very good. 240 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,560 Speaker 1: He got better, he got you know, he got wise 241 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: on La COVID and lockdowns, but it took him a 242 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: while Florida was the best state during the pandemic. We 243 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: have to be honest here about what happened, where we 244 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: had our victories, where we had our losses. And when 245 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: you have not a single statewide elected Republican in Florida 246 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: for the first time since the Civil War, that's different. 247 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: That's not a normal thing. Praising Charlie Christ. First of all, 248 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: he was a Republican when he ran the state, which 249 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 1: is hilarious because Charlie Christ has literally been a Republican, 250 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: a Democrat, and an independent. But this is not the way. 251 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: This is not the way for Trump. I want. I 252 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 1: want more of the ideas. I want more of the leader. 253 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: I want the narrative. You know, there's a there's a 254 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:56,280 Speaker 1: time and a place for the brawling and the fighting. 255 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 1: But for me, this it just didn't work. If you 256 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: think I'm wrong by all means, let me know. If 257 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 1: there are some Trump voters out there, and I mean 258 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: obviously a lot of Trump voters, I mean people for 259 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: whom Trump is the only option, the only option to 260 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: take on Biden. If you like this or didn't like 261 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: this ad, let me know. I'm very curious. 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Together, they're breathing sanity 288 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: into an insane world. Welcome back. We got David McCormick, 289 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: former CEO of Bridgewater, a huge hedge fund, a candidate 290 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: for US Center to Combat Veteran He'll be up with 291 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: us in a few minutes. Great time to talk to 292 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: him because of all the stuff going on with the banks, 293 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: in the economy, corey in Arab Alabama. I didn't know 294 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: that was a place. Good to meet you, Cory. What's 295 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: going on? Hey? I mean, I'm a two time voter, 296 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: big Chump supporter, but I really feel like Florida as 297 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: a state we have to win to get the presidency back. 298 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: And if Tom keeps backing hisanas, I thought I were 299 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: going to lose Florida and it just it just bruats 300 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: my heart. Man, look me too, Thank you for for 301 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: calling him my friend. I'm look. I voted for Trump twice. 302 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm a big Trump supporter in general. But I'm just 303 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,120 Speaker 1: trying to be honest about where I think he's going. 304 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: Diane from Virginia, What have you got for us? Diana? 305 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:25,640 Speaker 1: I just can't support him the way he is now. 306 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: I voted for him twice. Just cannot believe his anger 307 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 1: and resentment and so many things that have really are 308 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: destructed to this country. He needs to be taken on 309 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: the current president the card democratic black laning black wingers 310 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: in this country. Look, thank you. Yeah, I agree. I 311 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: mean he should be saving his saving his fighting fury 312 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: for the other side. I totally agree. 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A combat veteran West Point graduate, 342 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: author of a new book that is out now, Superpower 343 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: in Peril, a battle plan to renew America. David, good 344 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: to have you back on the program. Hey Bus, thanks 345 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: for having me. I appreciate it. So we got a 346 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: couple of things, big things to get into here. First 347 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: of all, breaking news just in the last couple of minutes, 348 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: a Russian jet has collided with a US drone over 349 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 1: the Black Sea and international airspace. I want to get 350 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: into all the banking stuff. You ran Bridgewater, one of 351 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: the biggest hedge funds in the world. You know the 352 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: banking stuff very well. But first tapping into your combat 353 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 1: veteran side. You went to West Point, you have served 354 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: in different government national security related roles. How concerned are 355 00:19:56,880 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: you about the trajectory right now in Ukraine. Well, I'm 356 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 1: very concerned about it in the sense that you know, 357 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: Putin is an aggressor here h He has challenged a 358 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: sovereign sovereignty of Ukraine. And I think we are in 359 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: the right position to be supporting the Ukrainians because I 360 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: think it's in US interest. But we got to do 361 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: that with a lot of care, and we got to 362 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: make sure the things that we're sending there aren't being 363 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: corrupted and used in ways it's inconsistent with the mission. 364 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 1: And we got to be careful and incidents like you 365 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: describe are the things that are unexpected. We got to 366 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: be careful that US troops don't in any way get 367 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: drawn in. So I'm I'm among those who think what's 368 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: happening in Ukraine is an important US interest. I think 369 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: China is watching carefully. But I also understand those who 370 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: are skeptical, and we have to be careful not to 371 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: get drawn into something bigger. Now, all under the financial 372 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: side of things, there's a lot of message to clean 373 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: up right now in a bunch of different a bunch 374 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: of different areas of the world. Yeah, so tell us. 375 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, is the bailout, the backstopping, 376 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: whatever it is, is this the right thing to do? 377 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 1: How do you see things as they are right now? 378 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: Before we get into where the financial and sector and 379 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: economics sector are going, But what do you think about 380 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: what they've done up to this point? Well, I think 381 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: you got to start and I'll be very brief, but 382 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: you've got to look at how we got here because 383 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: it answers part of your question. So we are here 384 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 1: because of excess excess over the last ten years in 385 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: terms of too much fiscal spending, but extreme excess in 386 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: the last two years under Joe Biden, enormous amount of spending, 387 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 1: forty percent increase in discretionary spending. We're an all time 388 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: high in our debt of thirty one trillion dollars. And 389 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: that excess of spending has been matched with extremely low 390 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: interest rates for more than a decade. And as a 391 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: consequence of that, we have inflation. And that inflation is 392 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: something we got to control. And so the Fed, ironically, 393 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: in trying to help stop the problem it created, raised 394 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: interest rates quickly. And now we've got a gap between 395 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: the assets and the liabilities, and that is across the 396 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: whole banking sector. It's not just across the SBB, and 397 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: that's the macro problem. Now. Second SBB, Silicon Valley Bank 398 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: wasn't terribly man is a bank terrible risk management. It's 399 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: appropriate that the whole leadership team got fired. But the 400 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: regulators made a big mistake here. The San Francisco Federal 401 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 1: Reserve should have known this. It's obvious what was going 402 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: to happen when interest rates rise, that the balance sheets 403 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: on the banks are gonna be underwater. They're gonna have 404 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 1: to sell assets. And because these assets were so the 405 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 1: deposits are so concentrated. It's created a real problem, not 406 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: just for Silicon Valley Bank, but for others. Now, in 407 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: terms of what the government has done, I think it's 408 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 1: it's appropriate the equity holders lose their lose their money. 409 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: I think it's appropriate that the credit holders lose their money. 410 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: I'm very concerned about the bailout of these uninsured deposits 411 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 1: and a mun I'm concerned for two reasons. First, you know, 412 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 1: the guy who had the landscaping business and landscaped Silicon 413 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: Valley Bank and the company would have ten thousand dollars. 414 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: He lost that ten thousand dollars. But the rich Silicon 415 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: Valley venture capitalist got one hundred percent on their dollars, 416 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: and that seems wrong, that seems inappropriate. Second, we got 417 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: a moral hazard. We got a moral hazard problem where 418 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: there's eight trillion dollars of uninsured bank deposits. And so 419 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: did we now just set a precedent where we're going 420 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: to bail out eight trillion dollars of uninsured bank deposits 421 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: if we need to. I don't think so. So we're 422 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: sending a dangerous precedent, and that for that reason I 423 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: would oppose it opposed a bailout of any kind. We're 424 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: speaking of David McCormick. He's a former combat veteran ran 425 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: for Senate in Pennsylvania in a tough primary there against 426 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 1: doctor Oz and also is the author of a new 427 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: book that is out, Superpower in Peril, about a plan 428 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: to New America. All right, David, where is this all going? 429 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: I mean credit suites? Back to the financial thing, because 430 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: people are worried about their money, I think rightfully, so 431 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: they're worried about their savings, and they're worried about their jobs. 432 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: So what happens now? I mean credit suits? They're saying, 433 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: has I think that, you know, systemic issues or something. 434 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: There is some term that they used to say, it's 435 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: not looking good over there. And there are some other 436 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: banks I'm sure that also have similar problems, maybe not 437 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: as badly as SVB. But do you feel like this 438 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:33,040 Speaker 1: is the beginning of a real plunge or is this 439 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: something that if we handle appropriately or is handled appropriately, 440 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: we're not heading into a major recession. Well, one of 441 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: the things I've I've learned along the years is to 442 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 1: just have humility about the ability to predict anything. Here, 443 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 1: I would say that a couple things. In response to 444 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 1: your question, The biggest important thing in banking is to 445 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: have confidence. Confidence in the banking system. The deposits that 446 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: old people put in the banks are not available to 447 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,199 Speaker 1: take out because they lend those, so there's a fraction 448 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 1: of the deposits available. So people have to have eidence, 449 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: and the government's try to take steps to put confidence 450 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: in place. We'll see how much it works. The underlying 451 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: problem that I described, where people have bought assets and 452 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: had long duration assets and now they're worth a lot 453 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: less is a big problem. And the inflation that we 454 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 1: have in our economy is likely going to lead the 455 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: Fed to raise rates to the point where we go 456 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: into recession, and that is going to be very challenging 457 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: for our economy. And it's part of the broader thing 458 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 1: I try to address in my book about Superpower Imperil. 459 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: I think this is just evidence of a decline. America's 460 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: in decline economically from a national security perspective. Spiritually, and 461 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: decline is not inevitable, but neither is renewal. It depends 462 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: on what we do. And so my book Superpower Imperil 463 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: lays out the plan for educating our people for confronting 464 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: China and for securing America, and part of that is 465 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: to get our fiscal house in order and to get 466 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 1: back to more normal policy. We've lived in access for 467 00:25:56,800 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: a long time, and whenever there's access, there creates all 468 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: sorts of distortions in the markets. And that's what we're 469 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: dealing with right now. Is there any way you think 470 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 1: realistically that the Fed will be able to navigate these 471 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 1: interest rate raises without plunging us into what even the 472 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: Biden administration will have to admit is a recession. Yeah, Listen, 473 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,919 Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be very difficult. And you know, 474 00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: if you go back and I just read recently the 475 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: book about Paul Volker during his time there, and what 476 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: happens with inflation is there's you know, if you take 477 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: the pedal off too quickly and lower rates too quickly, 478 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: inflation comes back. And so you've got to break the 479 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: back of inflation both with your movements, with your moves 480 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: and interest rates, but also with your rhetoric and signaling. 481 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,200 Speaker 1: And I think it's going to be very difficult not 482 00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: to be very tough minded on inflation, because the inflation 483 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: has an insidious impact on our economy and is very 484 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 1: challenging for politically, so I think we're likely to go 485 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: into recession. I think it's likely going to be a 486 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 1: tough period, and that's why I think a renewal agenda 487 00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: is really important. There's lots of problems in the country 488 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: just beyond the economic ones you and I are talking about, 489 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: and so my argument in the book is that we 490 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: need leadership as conservatives that's going to put great candidates 491 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: forward that can win primaries and win general elections. Is 492 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: going to put a positive agenda forward for how to 493 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: solve these problems and uh, and it's going to do 494 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: the work to get absentee ballots and voter registration so 495 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: we can win elections and take the country in the 496 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 1: right direction. And this book is meant to be a 497 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: blueprint for how to do that. A battle plan to 498 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 1: renew america superpower in Peril is the book Before let 499 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: you Go, David, you're thinking about running for president because 500 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: this book looks like the kind of book somebody might 501 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: write if they were running for president. Well, first, I 502 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 1: started writing the book before I ran for the Senate. 503 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,160 Speaker 1: At this point, now that the books time, my wife 504 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 1: did tell me I got to get a job of 505 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: some sort bucks. So I don't I don't think. I 506 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: don't think she's very open minded about that. But I 507 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: have I have been thinking about running for the Senate 508 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. I've not decided yet. There's twenty four centator 509 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 1: CASEYC will be open for election, and so we'll think 510 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 1: about that and pray about it and make a decision 511 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: later this year. I suspect catch it. So maybe running 512 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 1: for something fair enough. David McCormick, everybody's superpower and peril. David, 513 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 1: thanks for calling in, appreciate it. Thanks, but thanks to 514 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: talk to you. You know, we're big fans of the 515 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: herbal supplement company Chalk. 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Play is out and he is just on 544 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: a great vacation in Italy. He'll be back on Monday. 545 00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: We have some calls in here, Randy in a brass 546 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 1: You are a Democrat who may go right, Well, Randy, 547 00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: you're in the right place. How do we convince you 548 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: to come on into the light? Well? Buck quick calling 549 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: me a communist and all those nasty things. But maybe 550 00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: you're not a commy. Maybe you're one of the old 551 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: school Democrats that actually was open to reason, insanity, you 552 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So there's a whole range, sir. 553 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: I'm all alienated by my party. I'm a Christian, I'm 554 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: pro Second Amendment, I'm pro law enforcement, I'm pro military. 555 00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: But sounds like you're a Republican. I don't know what 556 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: what is there left to figure out here? So keep going. 557 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: I'm also pro labor and a few other and I'm 558 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,880 Speaker 1: pro public schools, so there are some issues there. And 559 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: I am pro choice, but that doesn't mean i'm pro abortion. 560 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: You know, you guys, the Republicans, you're always saying we've 561 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: got to get the independence to vote for us. Yeah, 562 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: I think you can get the independence to vote for you, 563 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: especially the way my party's been going. But open the door. 564 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: There there are those of us Democrats. Open the door. 565 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: You know the guy that comes on the air following 566 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: this show on my station. Oh nope, nope, nope, nope, nope, 567 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: we're not gonna We're not. Are you saying he opens 568 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: the door and is good about this? Or well? No, 569 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 1: I just want to say, he's kind of like did 570 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: you ever see the movie Boogie Nights? No, no, no, 571 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: we're not, We're not, don't. I don't know who it is, 572 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: but I don't want to thank you Randy for calling in. 573 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,520 Speaker 1: I don't want anyone talking about any of the other 574 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 1: shows that may be coming on after or before this, 575 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: because they're not here to respond one way or the other. 576 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: And uh, I mean, if it's any of my syndicated 577 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: brethren on Premiere, they're amazing talents and great guys. Charlie 578 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: in Miami, Charlie, what have you got, neighbor. Welcome to Miami. 579 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,240 Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. I love Miami. It's fantastic. Hey definitely 580 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: born race here and love it myself, love the Santis, 581 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: love Trump. I'm at the point now where Trump we 582 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: gotta let Trump be up and you know, niceties and 583 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: trying to get along. That doesn't work anymore. And Trump 584 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: when he does this preemptive fire against Desantist, because Trump's 585 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: already said his number one foe, even though he hasn't 586 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 1: put his head in the ring, will be de Santist. 587 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: So he's doing a little friendly fire. He's trying to 588 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: see if he can keep him out of the primary. 589 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 1: That's all he's doing. But now, so you're a Florist. 590 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: So this is interesting to me because I actually wanted 591 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: somebody who was a Trump person, who voted for him 592 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 1: and is still planning to vote for Trump in the 593 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: primary kind of no matter, I mean, assuming, no matter what, right, 594 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 1: no most out. I has a Trump sticker still in 595 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: my car right right now. I got you. I got you. 596 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: So I wanted someone of your position to call in. 597 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 1: But what I'm wondering is you're also a Floridian. So 598 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: when Trump says that Desantist hasn't done great stuff in Florida, 599 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: you're a Floridian, you're a Miami in. I mean, how 600 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: it doesn't that land doesn't it sound like he's just 601 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: kind of blowing smoke? I mean, you can't think that's true. No, 602 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: obviously not. I mean, Desantist has done a great job, right, 603 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: So so it sounds like you agree with me that 604 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: you know try I'm not saying Trump can't criticize Decantist 605 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 1: at all. I'm saying, let these guys play it on 606 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: the primary. I'm just saying the criticism that Desantists hasn't 607 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: done a good job as a Republican governor of Florida. 608 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, to me, this is like saying, you know 609 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: that the number one guy in the PGA tour, I 610 00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 1: don't even know who it is. Can't, you know, drive 611 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: a golf ball. Well, you know what I'm saying, Like, 612 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: it just doesn't. That's just not where you attack again. 613 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: I just I take it as friendly fire. I take 614 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 1: it as he's just trying to take de Santists off 615 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: the board now then later, because if De Santist is 616 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 1: off the board, who else has left? Nobody? And that's 617 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: the reality. So once he clears the Santists, then he 618 00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 1: can start focusing on j A Joe and go that round. 619 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: And he just said when he was in Iowa, he's 620 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: already laid down some of his platform. You know, he's 621 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: gonna prevent World War three, he's gonna go against Chatina, 622 00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna you know, he's Russia, He's gonna get back 623 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,719 Speaker 1: in control. And so you're you're you're your Trump all 624 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 1: the way. And I wanted to hear from from somebody 625 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: who feels that way at this point. And uh, you 626 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: do love Florida though, too, which is great because I 627 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: also think, yeah, original original Floridian. Thank you for My 628 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,440 Speaker 1: wife is an original Floridian. By the way, it's always uh, 629 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: always helpful. She's from the Orlando area. Rick in Wisconsin, 630 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Rick? Hello, how are 631 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 1: you doing today? Sir? We're great all across America. We're fantastic. 632 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: What's going on? Well, I just wanted to weigh in 633 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: on this Trump issue. I don't think he should be 634 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: attacking to Santos. We're all on the same team here 635 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: and here in Wisconsin, we just had an election not 636 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: long ago, and we had two very strong Republican candidates 637 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: who completely destroyed each other in the primary and that 638 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 1: made it very very easy for our Democratic governor to 639 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: we to rewin the election. And I just I don't 640 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: understand why we're attacking each other and making it easy 641 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,240 Speaker 1: for the Democrats you know, Rick, I think that there's 642 00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: there's criticizing, and then there's trying to destroy, right, and 643 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 1: there there's a there's a fine line. I get that 644 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna fight, thank you for calling and Rick, by 645 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: the way, They're gonna fight, They're gonna argue, they're gonna 646 00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: have attacks against each other on different positions. M But 647 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: as long as it's on the policy and doesn't turn 648 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:33,879 Speaker 1: into this person, I'll tell you. You know, people would say, oh, well, 649 00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,439 Speaker 1: Kamala called Joe Biden, you know, racist on stage. Yeah, 650 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 1: but Democrats call everybody racist. Right. So while that seemed 651 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: at the time like oh my gosh, that's unforgivable, Democrats 652 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: call everybody racist. So they could just say, you know, 653 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: you're not really racist. We call everybody racist, right, That's 654 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,360 Speaker 1: what Democrats do. Um. I don't see Democrats usually trying 655 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,719 Speaker 1: to destroy each other in a primary. I think sometimes 656 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 1: that does happen with Republicans. Maybe that's just my perception. 657 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,360 Speaker 1: Who want to avoid that. We want to go. You know, 658 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 1: it's it's like they say in a boxing match at 659 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:05,359 Speaker 1: the beginning the ref right, we want a good clean fight. 660 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: We want a good clean Primaria doesn't mean there's not 661 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: going to be shots throne. It just means nothing, you know, 662 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: no punches below the belt, no kidney punches or whatever. 663 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: You know. I don't know the boxing rules that well, 664 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: this is where I need clay clay, where are you 665 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: I need boxing rule help? But anyway, next hour we'll 666 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 1: be talking about the police situation in New York City. 667 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: They're getting a lot of cops that are leaving the 668 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: NYPD and they can't backfill them fast enough, so that's 669 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: gonna be a big problem for them. Also, Joe Biden 670 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: speaking to somebody on the Daily Show about transgender surgery 671 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: for kids. The moderate Joe Biden, that's what they say, right, 672 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: he's a moderate. You gotta hear what the current Democrat president, 673 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: who's supposed to be such a down the middle guy 674 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,760 Speaker 1: thinks about transgender surgery for kids. Stick around,