1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: The volume. 2 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 2: Hello ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for joining us 3 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:15,760 Speaker 2: for another episode of Nightcap. 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 3: Y'all know me. 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 2: I'm your favorite on Shannon Sharp, my partner and co 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: hosts Liberty City's own Bengal Ring of Fame, honoree pro bowler, 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 2: all Pro Madden Adjuster. That's Chad o Cho Senko Johnson, 8 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 2: and we have a very special guest tonight. He's a 9 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: five time pro bowler out of the yard out of 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: Arkansas Pine Bluff from Belleville, Illinois, and he still holds 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: the record for the fastest offensive lineman for a forty 12 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 2: yard dash time in the combined history at four seven one. 13 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: Here he is, Tron Armstead. Tron, how you doing, man, 14 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:48,920 Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. How you doing? 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Supplies are limited and once 35 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:50,440 Speaker 2: they're gone, they're gone, so please grab yours while supplies last. 36 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 3: Yes, O Joe. 37 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 2: In the twenty thirteen Combine Tarn recorded the fastest forty 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 2: for an offensive lineman. I'm buying history, a record that 39 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 2: still stands to this day. 40 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 3: It was close. 41 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 2: Lane Johnson ran four seven two, but Toront's record of 42 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 2: four to seven one is close. And if I'm not mistaken, 43 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 2: they are the only two offensive linemens that's run in 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 2: the four sevenths. They've been a couple of runs low 45 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: four eights, but no other lineman other than Tehran at 46 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: four seven one. Lane Johnson at four seven two have 47 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 2: been in the offensive lineman have been in the four 48 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 2: seven so. 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 3: As of yet. So now we're thirteen years. 50 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: In county twenty thirteen to twenty fifteen, and Toront still 51 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 2: helds that record. Toront, Look, you're coming out of Arkansas 52 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: Pine Bluff and it's not like it used to be. 53 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 2: There used to be a plethora of guys coming out 54 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: of HBCUs and so that would have been nothing, but 55 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 2: here it is. Now we're in the twenty tens and 56 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: we get an offensive linean your three times swack All 57 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 2: Conference player, and you go to the Combine. 58 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 3: What were your expectations? 59 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: Did you know you had this kinunt of ability in you? 60 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure. 61 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,720 Speaker 5: I knew I had the talent and the speed and 62 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 5: agility to showcase. I just had to get to the showcase. 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 5: So it was really huge for me to get that 64 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 5: Combine invite. That was that was monumental for me trying 65 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 5: to get more exposure, to get more eyes to my. 66 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 3: To my tape. So I knew that I was going 67 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: to go. 68 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 5: I was going for the record for sure, Like before 69 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 5: I even before we got to Indy, I was going 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,359 Speaker 5: for the record. I wanted to run faster honestly than that. 71 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 5: But I'll take the four seven. 72 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:32,080 Speaker 3: Four three on five. That's movie. 73 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 4: That's what I would get me to ask you. 74 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 6: I would give me to ask you how tall you 75 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 6: were and how much you weighed to be able to 76 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 6: run that. Listen, I ain't running but full five, So technically, 77 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 6: well you right there with me. 78 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: Mike there on your neck. 79 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I was six six five, three oh six, I 80 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 5: believe three or four at the combine. 81 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: Wow, so you knew, you knew? So what was if 82 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 2: I'm not, I don't know what the record was? What 83 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: was the record? What was the fastest forty time for 84 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: an offensive lineman before you broke it? 85 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 3: It was four a four for a four While you 86 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: didn't break it, you're obliterated. 87 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 5: I needed it. I needed it. I needed all that. 88 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 5: I needed that that my moment. I was on NFL 89 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 5: network dot com NFL dot com for like two hours. 90 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 5: I needed all of it. So so the scouts can 91 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 5: go watch my film. 92 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so now you go run that forty yard dash 93 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 2: type you run four seven one, and that's really the order. 94 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: Yeah they want you to jump high, Yeah, they want 95 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 2: you to do too. But speed is what captivates their tension. 96 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 2: Now you in offensive alignment. You never gonna be able 97 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: to unwind that four seven one again, But you just 98 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 2: wanted to put that on table to let them see. 99 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 2: Look you got a phenomenal athlete. Yes, I went to 100 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: Arkansas Pine Bluff. Yeah, I know you're gonna downgrade me 101 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,480 Speaker 2: talk about who did I blog and who play against? 102 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 2: But I'm gonna come and showcase my skills and let 103 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:49,760 Speaker 2: you see and then the chips. 104 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 3: Fall where they may. 105 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: So when you ran that time, did you know, like, okay, 106 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: I got their undivioted attention, I'm about to get drafted. 107 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, for sure. 108 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 5: We have special talents down there in these HBCUs all 109 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 5: across the country. 110 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 3: We do. 111 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: So I just needed the opportunity to showcase my skill. 112 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 5: I knew a time it was I was going for 113 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 5: the vertical record too. I missed that by half an inch, 114 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 5: so like I knew that I was going to be 115 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 5: able to make that splash, and like I say again, 116 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 5: I needed it. I really needed that chance to get 117 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 5: all the scouts just to watch my fam I wouldn't 118 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 5: ask you for no favorites, but just check out the 119 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 5: film and see the dominance. 120 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 121 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 6: Now, also when I look at the officer line position, 122 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 6: as fast as you were, you know, as far as 123 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 6: running the forty, did you have an advantage as far 124 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 6: as your footwork goes when it came to playing offensive 125 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 6: line as well? Because most of the time, obviously, you know, 126 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 6: playing officer line is all about your hand placement in 127 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 6: your footwork. You know, we always being being balanced for sure. 128 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 6: Did they give you the advantage? 129 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? 130 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 5: No, My athletic says to my agility that those were 131 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 5: my strengths when I played throughout my twelve year career 132 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 5: because I'm six five three oh four, not the biggest tackle, 133 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,280 Speaker 5: not not necessarily the strongest either, but I'm on your 134 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 5: ass as soon as it ass now a lot of jump, says, 135 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 5: I had to use that in my game. So find 136 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,479 Speaker 5: ways to play in my strength, and I was using 137 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 5: my speed. Were you always an offensive lineman? 138 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 3: Cuts out? 139 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: I mean, with with that kind of fast twitch, you 140 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: might have been a you might have been a tight 141 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,239 Speaker 2: end at some point in time in your career. 142 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 3: Were you always an offensive lineman? 143 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 5: Well, back in my hometown Cookie, Illinois, we went off 144 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 5: of speed. That's what we do. We run, So I 145 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 5: was a defensive lineman off of Lima. But I would 146 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 5: to go play seven on seven with the guys corner 147 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 5: safety receive it. 148 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 3: Wow. 149 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 5: Really yeah, it really was like that really was like that. 150 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,919 Speaker 5: I can't do that shit, no no more. But like 151 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 5: I came move like that no morel too. 152 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: You mentioned you say so you were thirty four, thirty 153 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: four right now, thirty five, thirty three, thirty three to 154 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 2: run you walk away from the game, You're only thirty three. 155 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,359 Speaker 2: Lineman normally played there and at thirty six, thirty seven, 156 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: thirty eight. We saw Jacket Slatter play twenty years and 157 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,280 Speaker 2: he retired at forty plus, and we see Lineman especially. 158 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,919 Speaker 3: I don't know your injury history. 159 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 2: That's why, that's why I'm going with this, why I 160 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: walk away from the game and all that chap out there. 161 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 3: You see that money, fact how it is. 162 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 5: It's a lot of freshly printed money out there, for sure. 163 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: It is. 164 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 5: Yes, indeed, I got a man, God bless me with 165 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 5: so many great moments in great years and a great career. 166 00:07:19,040 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 5: My injury history is extensive, it is, yes, it is long, 167 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 5: and I've been through it. 168 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 3: And that's really the part for me is my body. 169 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 3: You know, I love this game. 170 00:07:28,360 --> 00:07:32,040 Speaker 5: I mentally, cerebrally, I can play the game for forever, 171 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 5: you know. But it's just physically and I'm and I'm 172 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 5: okay with with saying that that that my body is 173 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 5: slowing down. It's movements and abilities that I just can't 174 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 5: perform at the same level. 175 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 3: And I take so much pride in my film. 176 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, man, it has to look a certain way, Like 177 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 5: every time I sip on the field, it has to 178 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: look Pro Bowl, all Pro like that's the that's the 179 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 5: brand I wanted to leave. So that's just I never 180 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 5: want to look like I'm out there getting my getting 181 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 5: whooped on. 182 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: That ain't that can't happen. 183 00:07:58,920 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 5: You know what. 184 00:07:59,320 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 4: It takes a lot. 185 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 6: It takes a lot of awareness, self awareness at that 186 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,240 Speaker 6: for a player of your caliber, or any player that's 187 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 6: played in the NFL, that's played at a high level 188 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 6: to understand what it's time to call upus. 189 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 4: Most of the time, we'll. 190 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 6: Ride, we'll ride, the ride the car to the wheels 191 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 6: fall off, you know, with no regard for you know what, 192 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 6: I don't look the same. At what moment did you 193 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 6: realize that, you know what, I really don't have it 194 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 6: to play at the All Pro or or Pro Bowl 195 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 6: level anymore. 196 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 4: But what moment did it hit you? 197 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been dealing with a knee since my third 198 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: year in the league, but it's been with me from 199 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 5: for my entire career. 200 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 3: So man, just I'll speak on this year alone. 201 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 5: I didn't see a practice field like at all, and 202 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 5: not because I didn't want to or the Dolphins just 203 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 5: wanted me to rest. It's like I literally couldn't walk, 204 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 5: you know, I couldn't after a game on Sunday. I 205 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 5: wouldn't be able to walk on my own, you know, 206 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 5: under my own power till Wednesday, Thursday. So I was 207 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 5: only able to play under under under the pay mads. 208 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 5: I couldn't put any pressure on my knee. So it 209 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 5: was like, I can't keep doing that to myself. 210 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 3: Man. We uh it comes. 211 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: Thirty three and you now you get to be forty 212 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, you're like, man with my 213 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 2: liver shutting down, my kids and all the other things 214 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: from taking those pain medicine. Because I know I've seen 215 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 2: I've seen linemen have to take vicoing just to practice. 216 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 3: I get I get the game. I get the game. 217 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 2: I really do, because you know, a that's once a week, 218 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 2: but the practice oh hell. 219 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, that's crazy, and that's what that was 220 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 3: the norm. For sure. 221 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,560 Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't want to fall in that cycle, right. 222 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 2: But the thing is, Aszcho was saying, it takes a 223 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 2: space because to the to the lay person, they don't 224 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 2: they don't, they don't, they don't really see what you know. 225 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 2: And the thing is is that when you it's kind 226 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 2: of hard to let go and not practice because as 227 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 2: an offensive lineman sets for everything, whether you're gonna jump 228 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 2: where you a mat, and the thing is, you got 229 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: to practice that during the course of a week. It's 230 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: hard or an offensive line to just go out there 231 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 2: on a Sunday jump said quick said, hey stab whatever 232 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 2: the case may be, and just to go and you're 233 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: going against the best of the best. 234 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:16,120 Speaker 5: You you said it, you said it. It's the reps. 235 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 5: It is, especially for offensive line play. We so based 236 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 5: on technique and uh tim and and all the hand 237 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 5: placement and not not to mention the cohesiveness of everyone, 238 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 5: because you know, we're the only unit that never comes 239 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 5: off the field outside of the quarterback that's one person, 240 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 5: but we're the only unit that never comes off the field. 241 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 5: So that chemistry and time, and it just is really 242 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 5: tough not getting those practice reps and then preparing mentally 243 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 5: for Max Crosby and Miles Garrett. 244 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 4: And like, that's not okay. 245 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: You got to keep doing that with TJ. Watt. 246 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 5: Listen, I'm not about to keep doing that man with 247 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 5: no practice, Like, come on, man. 248 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 2: Because you talk about your office Tehran, you talk about 249 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 2: your t excuse me, you talk about your offensive lineman, 250 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 2: and like, okay, they get somebody else in there to 251 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 2: practice it. But you and that left guard, y'all need 252 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: to be cohesive. Yeah, you need to like be on 253 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: the same level and pass it off, because if you're 254 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: on different levels, guy, go hit that crack And now 255 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: everybody's like, man, y'all hate judge it. 256 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 3: But see, you might be a little slow. 257 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: He might have been a little fast, and all of 258 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 2: a sudden you give up a sack when y'all should 259 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 2: have had that situation covered. I know, I look and 260 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 2: everybody doesn't do it the same because I remember practicing 261 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 2: with Gary Zimmerman, who the Who's the two decade All 262 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 2: Decade player in the eighties and the nineties. 263 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 3: He went to the Hall of Fame, but he didn't 264 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 3: like me. He didn't like me. The chip block m 265 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: he didn't like the chip. He don't touch it, Yeah. 266 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 2: He said, if I if I jumped said it. Man, 267 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 2: you hit him, you're gonna knock him inside and now 268 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 2: I can't get him, and everybody goes, thank I got beat. 269 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: So don't touch it. 270 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a real thing, especially especially if you have 271 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 5: a big physical tight end, like like yourself. So like 272 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 5: you hitting him too hard? He getting momentum, he getting 273 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 5: like a yo. And yeah to the inside move you 274 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 5: know what I got him to, just get out the way, 275 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 5: go get open. 276 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 3: Jonathan ja O. 277 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,960 Speaker 2: Now I played with j O Jonathan Ogden, who's the 278 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 2: first battlet of Hall of Famer. 279 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 3: He like, hey, knock him, knock him out if you can't. 280 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 2: For me, and depend on who it is man who exactly. 281 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 2: But like you said, starting offensive lineman, they want some 282 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, stick and stay or some guys like 283 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: don't touch him. But like you said, not practice like 284 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: for an offensive lineman. And seeing like like I said, 285 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: I've worked with Zam for like four years, work with 286 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 2: Jail for two years, and to see what they go 287 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: through because they're working on this sets. They ay, they're kicking. 288 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 2: Am I gonna stab him? Am I gonna quick sit him? 289 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 2: Am I gonna jump setting? What am I gonna do? 290 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: And not? In the game? Man, I want to jump set, 291 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 3: but I need bother you. No, I can't. 292 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: I can't see. I can't do what I want. But 293 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: the mind say do that? That body said, brother, do 294 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 2: you do that? 295 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 3: You say you can't do that? You can't through it 296 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 3: no more? 297 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 6: Hey, when it came to playing a left tackle position, now, 298 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 6: I think about my approach to playing receiver when it 299 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 6: came to DB's and studying each dB every week and 300 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 6: understanding what type of dB I'm going against? You got 301 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 6: some that a quick, some of that are fast, some 302 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 6: of the physical, some better, some of that you know, 303 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 6: playoff or whatever may be. What was your approach when 304 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 6: it came to playing defensive ends each week? It was 305 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 6: was your Was your approach different as far as from 306 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 6: from a technical standpoint? 307 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 4: Do you change up things you did depending on who 308 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 4: you were playing that week? 309 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 5: Well, I've always said this is a show that it's 310 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 5: a lot of parallels to me, a lot of similarities 311 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 5: between O line tackling, tackling d N and receiver in corner, Yes, sir, 312 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 5: like that that one on one match up. It's a 313 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 5: lot of dynamics there that that's parallel to me. The 314 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 5: technique that goes into with tendencies. Like you said, is 315 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 5: he pressing well? If I jab inside? What are you 316 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 5: doing with his hands? Same thing as I'm bringing the 317 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 5: defensive end. I'm looking at their alignment. First, how wide 318 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 5: is he getting? And then it get off? You know, 319 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 5: how well is he timing the snap? Then I want 320 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 5: to see his home runs. What's what's his go to 321 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 5: move that he's consistently winning on. What's he's winning on 322 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 5: the most I break that down. That's the one I 323 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 5: want to take away. I want to take that one away, 324 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 5: and then all right, what's his second highest percentage move 325 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 5: to count. I'm taking those top two away throughout my career. 326 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 5: That was the goal, my objective of game planning. I 327 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 5: want to take them top two winners away. Now, if 328 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 5: you beat me with a third, you you you're a 329 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 5: bad man, but you know you're gonna have to get that. 330 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 5: But for me, I was taking those top two, top 331 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 5: two moves away. 332 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 6: And one of the things that I've always liked to 333 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 6: ask players that that once they're done playing. 334 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 4: Who gave them the most fits? For me? 335 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 6: And everybody asked me all the time, listen, you played 336 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 6: a very long time, you're going against them. I've always 337 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 6: had to deal with the number one dB and everyone asked, 338 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 6: you know, who gave you fits? And obviously the one 339 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 6: person I say every time two thousand he had locked 340 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 6: everybody up, but. 341 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 2: Super strong about nobody else. But you you see how 342 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: you did that. 343 00:14:56,640 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 4: When he talked, listen, we hey, you gave fits, so 344 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: you just want to give them their flowers? 345 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, man, I had some battles. I had 346 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 5: some of these guys I say too many times like 347 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't want to have these rivalry going on, 348 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 5: but you know that's how the schedule go. I played 349 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 5: Miles a ton. Miles always one of those. He one 350 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 5: of those you got to you can make sure you 351 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 5: breakfasts like he's He's one of those, for sure. But 352 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 5: the guy that gave me the most fits, and I've 353 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 5: probably seen him the most and he is still underrated 354 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 5: in my eyes. 355 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 3: Robert Robert, Oh, that first trouble Quinn, he's been in 356 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 3: that edge. 357 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 5: He listen, Robert Quinn, he got he probably got the 358 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 5: most sacks on me, like out of everybody's he's the 359 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 5: person that say I got two on t stair Like 360 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 5: he he probably that one person that can say that, right, Okay, 361 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 5: that dude game he yeah he. I don't even want 362 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 5: to see him post career. I don't want to see him. 363 00:15:57,880 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: We can't be friends nothing. I don't want to run 364 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 3: in Robert. 365 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,760 Speaker 2: It's really it's really like a dance because like they 366 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,040 Speaker 2: they getting that white, they're getting that what they're getting 367 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: to that wide nine and now hey, you're like, Okay, 368 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: I know he's gonna come wide, but what if he 369 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 2: dropping bull me? Okay, now he gonna hit me, and 370 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 2: then he's been inside, so I got I got all 371 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: that going in though, I gotta. 372 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 3: Look at him. Okay, what is he doing now? I'm kicking. 373 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: I can only kick so far because the damn cornerback 374 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: right there. Help keep kicking. I'm gonna be in this 375 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 2: damn lamp. I can all again, brother, like you kick 376 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 2: and then I got to say it, and I gotta 377 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: tell you, hey, I gotta be I don't want him 378 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: to get it. I don't want him to bend the 379 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 2: edge on me because these like you said, Miles can 380 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 2: being but also I also don't want him wax on 381 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 2: wax off been crossed my face. 382 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: All that. 383 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 5: We're trying to process all that, man, and they lined 384 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 5: up in his wide nine, and these athletes are only 385 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 5: getting They're only getting bigger, faster, stronger. Yeah, So it's man, 386 00:16:55,880 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 5: it's it's it's tough to deal with. Like Micah playing 387 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 5: Michael Parsons for the first time. It was Christmas Day. 388 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 5: We in Miami, Beautiful Day. We smacked the cowboys. That 389 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 5: ain't part of the story. But seeing seeing Michael Parsons 390 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,120 Speaker 5: for the first time in real life, it was different. Bro, 391 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 5: Like you are You're way too big to be moving 392 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 5: as fast it can be in that well. Like, yeah, 393 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 5: it's just the athlete. The evolution of the athlete is 394 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 5: just it's becoming something something different. 395 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 7: Man. 396 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: Cool, I'm cool. 397 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 2: Y'all watching, you know, playing against Dereck Thomas. But the 398 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 2: guy that I had the most respect for, I only 399 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 2: played againt him for two years because I was on 400 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,119 Speaker 2: in Baltimore two years. I've never seen a guy his 401 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: size that quick. Jabs us mmm, freak. 402 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 3: Man freak the first time I played it. 403 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, man, hey, I turned aiut saying, hey, y'all better fraud. 404 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: He was gone, look out block. 405 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,199 Speaker 2: He took a step down because I had this up, 406 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: so I stepped with it. 407 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 3: Man, when by the time I put my foot down, 408 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 3: he was on my shoulder. 409 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 2: That's a bad He get to your shoulder and you 410 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: ain't extended, you might will. 411 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 3: Kissed the baby. That's a bad feeling. Feeling. 412 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 4: Heyyy you saw the picture I was. 413 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 6: I just saw Javon Curson the airport leaving Philly day 414 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:21,360 Speaker 6: before yesterday. 415 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: Oh did you? 416 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 417 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: Man, he got that before he hurt the ankles. O Joe, 418 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 2: I'm talking about you talking about somebody like he was 419 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 2: like six four two fifty, I'm talking about all. I'm 420 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 2: talking about five X gloves. I mean his hands were. 421 00:18:36,680 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: Like a ketcher. Did did kurtse get in there? Did 422 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 3: he get into the hall? Nah? 423 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:42,359 Speaker 6: Nah? 424 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 3: Nah? 425 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 2: He uh he would? I mean he was at Tennessee, 426 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: his best us at Tennessee. Yeah, he moved to Philly 427 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:53,720 Speaker 2: and then he had he messed up his ankle, messed 428 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: up his years. But hey, back in the day, you know, 429 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 2: dealing with DT. Bruce Smith was fast too. Bruce could 430 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:04,440 Speaker 2: be in for a guy his size normally guys to seventy. 431 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 2: They can't be in like that. Bruce be parallel to 432 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: the ground. That movement that you see, Jarrett, that you 433 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,920 Speaker 2: see a von Miller do where he dip under and 434 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 2: come down on one hand and get back up. 435 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 3: Bruce could do that at two seventy. 436 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 5: That's yeah. 437 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: So hey, that's why you guys make the big bucks. 438 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 2: That's why paid on the office line, because you guys 439 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: got the toughest assignment because you're dealing with like I said, basically, 440 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,719 Speaker 2: it's like Ginger Robins and Fredistaire. 441 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 3: He's coming forward, but you got a mirror what he 442 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: does moving. 443 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 2: Backwards, and is you got a target that's sitting right there, 444 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 2: whether it's and basically everybody in the shotgun now, so 445 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,959 Speaker 2: you can only set so far before he sets your 446 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 2: ass in the cornerback lap or he reach over the top. 447 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 3: And you yo, we. 448 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: Need some more money, man, oh loved, we need more. 449 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 5: We need some more of that money. 450 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 3: We need it all right. Check this out. 451 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 2: Sat Quon Barkle is coming off his best year of 452 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 2: his career, which any of him becoming a Super Bowl 453 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: champion with the Eagles, and now he's gracing the cover 454 00:20:19,040 --> 00:20:21,600 Speaker 2: of Man twenty six, sa Quan was asked if he 455 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 2: retire at the top of his game or going to 456 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: the wheels came off. I'll probably be one of those 457 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: guys that will be out of nowhere. I'll probably just 458 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 2: wake up one day, whether it's the next year or 459 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 2: two or four, and just be like, yeah, it's over. 460 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 2: I don't think I'll ever lose that passion. The competitive 461 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 2: nature is always going to be there. I like, probably 462 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 2: my favorite player of all time is Barry Sanders, so 463 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: probably similar to that. Maybe one day like nowhere, I'll 464 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: probably just be bawling and just be like, yeah, it's 465 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 2: a quiz g Damn. We just talked about that because 466 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 2: your situation was just like out of nowhere, Like yeah, yep. 467 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: It was not as sudden. Really. 468 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 5: The ones in the inner circle, they they knew the 469 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 5: situation and I was trying to push through. 470 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: I was looking for options to continue. 471 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 5: But it's just it's over for sure, like I knew it, 472 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 5: not as sudden as like Barry Sanders or Calvin Johnson. 473 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 5: Saquon is incredible Hall of Fame talent, for sure. It'd 474 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 5: be a he can't walk away all of a sudden. 475 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 5: We need to see some more of that man, that's 476 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 5: a special talent. 477 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 2: What the difference is between them situation in Calvin and Barret, they. 478 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 3: Got tired of losing, all right? For sure? 479 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 2: That situation where he's I mean, you just went to 480 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,400 Speaker 2: the super Bowl. Now if you start to lose, But Barry, 481 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 2: Barry got to the NFC Championship game in ninety one 482 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 2: and never got that close again. So Barry got tired 483 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 2: of losing. Barry wasn't injured. I mean you talked about 484 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: the guy had average fifteen hundred yards for ten seasons. No, 485 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 2: for sure, to go Calvin's the same thing. Calvin like, bro, man, 486 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 2: we ain't getting no closer. I'm going out here and 487 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 2: I'm doing all this to my body. What am I 488 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,399 Speaker 2: really doing this for when I don't really have a 489 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 2: real list chance of getting to in winning a Super Bowl? 490 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: So I think that's the different say quandit of a 491 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 2: different situation. Now, if he was at the Giants, yeah, 492 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 2: he probably. 493 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: Just goes like one day, I'm out of here. 494 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 2: But the situation where he is with that offensive line, 495 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 2: without offense, with that defense, nah, I don't, I don't, 496 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 2: I don't. 497 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:20,200 Speaker 3: I don't think he just walks away. 498 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 6: And money different too, Yeah, I mean the movie different, 499 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 6: obviously different, and obviously he just got paid. 500 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: It gave him a nice, nice, nice, nice twenty mil 501 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 2: a year old Joe, nice. 502 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 6: Nice pay raise that sure going for a running back 503 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 6: for that position, obviously, with a position not as being 504 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 6: as valued as it is now, but being somewhere now 505 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 6: where they appreciate you for what you're doing and they 506 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 6: showed you love. I don't see Safe retiring until he 507 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 6: has that that coming to coming to grass moment. You know, right, 508 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 6: I can't do it like I used to. 509 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 3: That's the fact I don't have that. I said the 510 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 3: same way. 511 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 6: I think that'll be the only time he actually called 512 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 6: it quits when he realized is you know what I 513 00:22:58,040 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 6: can't get. 514 00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 4: I can't be in that corner like I used to. 515 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,680 Speaker 6: I can't hit I can't hit that A or that 516 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 6: that be a C gap, that that that'd be it 517 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 6: and that that ain't. 518 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 7: Probably twenty six, twenty seven, twenty eight, just turn to 519 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 7: But here's the thing though, O Joe, Yeah, Lane Johnson 520 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 7: still there, Mile Lotta is still there, Hurgenson still there, 521 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 7: Nice still there. 522 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 2: So it's not like you see some of these off 523 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: some of these guys. The offensive line get old and 524 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 2: they starting to move them out. That's the best offensive 525 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: line in football. They're not going It's not like they're 526 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 2: about to drop off a cliff in the next year 527 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 2: or two. And they got them all in the contract. 528 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 2: They just did Lane's contract. They just didn't mind a 529 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:45,160 Speaker 2: lot of cont just did Dickinson contract. Is the rook 530 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,719 Speaker 2: that was on a rookie contract. Nah, he ain't going 531 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 2: anywhere anytime soon. 532 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 4: Well, and you know, you know, it's funny when you 533 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 4: think about it. 534 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 6: As good as Saquon is and as good as that 535 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 6: offensive line is, even if sa Quon was losing step, 536 00:23:56,520 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 6: let's say in maybe maybe in three years, if that, 537 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 6: with an offensive line like that, he will still be 538 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 6: able to do what he needs to do because you're 539 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 6: that much better up front. 540 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 2: So he won't be able to go eighty yards with 541 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 2: anybody without anybody touching him. So now he might have 542 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,000 Speaker 2: to break a tackle two yards from the line of 543 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 2: scrimmage and to run through those holes that my old 544 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 2: slow ass could probably get five yards. I ain't gonna 545 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: hit my head on the gold post like him, but 546 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 2: I might get five yards. 547 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: Tea, I gave about three and four yards hunh fall four. 548 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 3: I gave about three four. 549 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: The them makes hurt. I can imagine now, ain't. I 550 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: hadn't gotten hit on the man in two decades. Yeah, 551 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: I shattered, like guys, you know how you drop ice side? 552 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 4: Got to remember they not hitting like me was back then. 553 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: No, No, I don't forgot how to take a hit. 554 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 2: You see you, Hey, you start losing, you know how 555 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: t when you go like when you leave the season 556 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,560 Speaker 2: and you come back and you got to go to 557 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: training camp. 558 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 3: You got to relearn those stuff. And I said, don't 559 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 3: tingle like they did. Like once you get going. 560 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 2: Like training camp and now you go to the season, 561 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,680 Speaker 2: they don't tingle them. And not twenty years, man, i'd 562 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,679 Speaker 2: be getting the I run them the shall across. 563 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: It's a zone. 564 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,440 Speaker 4: You're running through the home. 565 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 5: Hey, they gonna get fined. They gonna get fine though 566 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 5: they might hit you what but I won't be fine. 567 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,520 Speaker 2: They might get fined, but I won't be fined. That's 568 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,240 Speaker 2: that's the world. That's the word. 569 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:24,239 Speaker 3: Yo o cho. 570 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 5: You switched it up on me, man, you usually have 571 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 5: on the cardier. I got seven pair of cardiers over. 572 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 3: I was gonna be oh tonight and you didn't. 573 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,480 Speaker 4: Hey, limit hole, par Now you see what you got? 574 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 3: What you know what I mean? We're in right now. 575 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 5: Hey, hey listen, listen. 576 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 6: Time I keep wearing the same ones over and over, 577 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 6: I'm trying to say the rest of them, you know, 578 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 6: for football season when I'm on TV. I got car 579 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 6: got strings, right, I got a different color to match 580 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 6: eat suit? All right, that's a different brou I gotta 581 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 6: I gotta see you. 582 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 4: I gotta see you, dude. Information right off of Twitter. 583 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:02,239 Speaker 6: He from Canada. Bro, he got everything I need it 584 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 6: I need I need. 585 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna still gonna put the bath on. We're gonna 586 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 3: switch him up. 587 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: Your doer says that when he's a bet, he'll have 588 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: rookie organize his locker. 589 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 3: Take a listen, take a look at this video. 590 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: Guys, I'm gonna bet what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna 591 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 1: have a rookie organized by locker every day. You mean, 592 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: if Flacko told me to do this every day, I 593 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:29,560 Speaker 1: would do it. 594 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: I go to him every day. I said, hey, bro, 595 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 3: you good. 596 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 4: You need anything right then? 597 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: Because it's respect you feel me? 598 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 5: I feel that. 599 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 3: So when you came in as a rookie, what did 600 00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 3: the bets have you do? 601 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 5: Torn bets were pretty pretty good to me, man, Jerry 602 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 5: Evans being grubb Zach Street. Those guys were pretty good 603 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 5: to me. Okay, get him breakfast every Saturday. Uh food 604 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 5: for the plane, snacks, toilet tries. I had to bring 605 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 5: that type stuff to the facility. Deodorant, body wash, all 606 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 5: that good stuff. So trying to find a ride to 607 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,400 Speaker 5: Walmart because Uber didn't exist in twenty thirteen, So trying 608 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 5: to find a ride to Walmart, get the stuff for 609 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 5: the guys and all it into the facility. 610 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,320 Speaker 3: But they were they were pretty they were pretty smooth 611 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 3: on me. Yeah, that's what it was. 612 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 2: I mean, they won't breakfast, sandwiches, they wanted doughnuts, they 613 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 2: wanted chicken to come. 614 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: They wanted Popeye to come to the plane. 615 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, guys, y'all bro y'all know man, 616 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 2: And back then, you know we drove, we know, we drove, 617 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 2: drove to the airport, but we had our own hangar. 618 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 3: So you drive up, go get on the walk up 619 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 3: and get on the plane. 620 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 5: Man. 621 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 3: You know matter I was driving so fast, driving reckless 622 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 3: man trying so if a rookie contract man. 623 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: I can't I can't afford now twelve hundred and fifty 624 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: dollar fine man. 625 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 6: Dang yeah, remember them day I wide receive a group. 626 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 4: I mean obviously the vestment I came into a rookie 627 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 4: in Cincinnati. 628 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,919 Speaker 6: Man, it was it was love, you know, there was 629 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 6: there was a certain amount of risks fact that that 630 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,399 Speaker 6: I showed them, a certain amount of respect that they 631 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 6: showed as well. But you remember Darnay Scott. Yeah, yeah, 632 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 6: a dark Darnay Scott. Danny Farmer was at the time. 633 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 6: Ron Dugan's Pub was there, and. 634 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 3: It was it was all up. 635 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 6: It was nothing to that magnitude like some of the 636 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 6: stories that I that I hear. 637 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 5: No, we have receiver room. Have the hardest time with that. 638 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,080 Speaker 5: The receiver room is always that that be trying to 639 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 5: buck the receiver trying it's it's always a hard time 640 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 5: with that. Uh. We had a situation in Miami last year, 641 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 5: not a big situation, but uh tyree Tyreek Hill have 642 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 5: bought one of the rookies Christmas gifts and the rookie 643 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 5: didn't like it really like, I mean, it's cool, but 644 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 5: you know, you expect you could give me some better, 645 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 5: you know, something bigger. You make it thirty ms a year, 646 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,440 Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. And Tyreek was really hurt 647 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 5: by that, Like he was really upset. 648 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 4: That the guy, Hey, what did he get him? 649 00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember. 650 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 5: It was like it was like a like a Gucci 651 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 5: cologne set or something like that, some type of designer 652 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 5: cologne set. And this is this young boy, he twenty 653 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 5: one years old in Miami. Man, he probably don't even 654 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 5: have now, wearing no colognia. 655 00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 3: I don't want that. 656 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 5: He wanted Tyreg Debaum, something with a little bit more, 657 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 5: a little more splash to it. 658 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was. 659 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 2: You know, you gotta sing at at training camp and 660 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: not no damn fight song either. Nobody ain't nobody go 661 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: to your school, but you so you got to say something. 662 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: Whoever the latest see us now, like probably not. 663 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: To be Kendrin, Lamar Drake or whomever the hot rapper 664 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 2: is right now. Back then, you know, R and B 665 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 2: was still big when I was coming up, and guys 666 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: singing Teddy Pitt, the guy who was singing Luther was 667 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 2: singing Barry Why he Hey y'all have did y'all have 668 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: a Roochie show? Te Oh for sure, for sure. Mike 669 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: and Danny he was. 670 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 5: He was big on that, and Seanpagne was two. Back 671 00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 5: in New Orleans, we would do the song. Most of 672 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 5: the guys would would do R and B Old school 673 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 5: R and B. Yeah, I feel like that, and you 674 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 5: guys probably have a different song. But I feel like 675 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 5: that undefeated song when the rookie starts singing it, and 676 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 5: that rookie show the whole crowd gonna join in, it's fantastic. 677 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 5: When I see you, it's all. 678 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He started that. 679 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 5: You get to the first thirty he get through the 680 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 5: first thirty seconds because everybody gonna yeah. 681 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 6: Hey, you know what that song? That song right there 682 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 6: is like when the swag surface song come on. 683 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 4: It don't matter where you at or what you doing. 684 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 5: Sure everybody join it? 685 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: Then? 686 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you gotta hear somebody. 687 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 4: Everybody. 688 00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it. 689 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 2: Uh, New Orleans Here we come to get you. 690 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 3: That was Yeah, that's super dumb. Used to rock man. 691 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 3: I missed I missed them. I missed that place. I 692 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 3: missed those fans. It's crazy. 693 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 4: Matter of fact, think you went to Arkansas Pine Bluff, sir. 694 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 6: As matter of fact, when I was at Link, you 695 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 6: know about Lincoln University, right, yeah. 696 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 4: And when I was at Links, we played arkansasin Pine Bluffy. 697 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 6: They came up, they came on down with a coil 698 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 6: so steel water whichever what it is, but it's back 699 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 6: in nineteen ninety nineteen ninety seven. 700 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 5: We played Lengths in my freshman year and Lengths and 701 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 5: beat us bro real. 702 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 3: It was bad. 703 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: It was bad, y'all there the bus because we took 704 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: the bus everywhere. It didn't matter if it was three 705 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 2: hours or if it was twelve hours. 706 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 3: You on that bus, I was on that bus. He's 707 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 3: on that bus. Pair it up then. 708 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 2: Well see, and the way we did it is like 709 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,920 Speaker 2: the starting offense and the starting defense on one bus 710 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 2: and then the backups on another bus. We did we 711 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 2: did off no, hell no, started on one bus at 712 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 2: the backups or another bus. 713 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 5: What there you be if you ride the advance, you 714 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 5: ride this bush. 715 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're right exactly about segregate. 716 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's crazy. How they supposed to get better? 717 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:05,479 Speaker 5: Man. 718 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 2: They can't sit and talk to none of y'all because 719 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: we're back there playing cards. You know, spades were playing cards. 720 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 2: We we know we all. 721 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 3: Wanted the back to the back of the bus. You 722 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. We as a matter of fact, 723 00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 3: we wanted to go to the back of the bus. 724 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: But hey, all of us, it wasn't nothing special because 725 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 2: all of us was black. We had what our kicker 726 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: was white, so it wasn't it wasn't no thinking. I'm 727 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: sure it's the same thing with you guys. Did y'all 728 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 2: have a white kick or punter? 729 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 5: Both white kicker and punter. Oh, and a linebacker? We 730 00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 5: had a yo, we had a linebacker too. He was 731 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 5: a bad man. 732 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 3: But that's what you know. But you you missed that. 733 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 2: I missed, you know, taking over you know, going to Tuskegee, 734 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 2: Uh going to uh we're the Burlington, North Carolina. Just 735 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 2: you know, you you taking the bus. I mean it 736 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: is no you know playing It doesn't matter. If it 737 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: was like I said, if it was an hour to 738 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: Georgia Southern and Statesboro, or you go in the Tuskegee 739 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 2: or you going to North Carolina, it didn't matter. Spartanburg, 740 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 2: South Carolina, didn't matter. You're on the bus. 741 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 5: Yeah, we would take the We take that ten hour 742 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,320 Speaker 5: bus ride to Houston for Prairie View, Texas Southern. We 743 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 5: take the ten hour bus ride to Alabama and them 744 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 5: Alabama State. Uh, my first flight in my life was 745 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 5: we got paid to come play UTEP. So we flew 746 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 5: down in UTEP. They paid us to beat on us. Yeah, 747 00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 5: well that was my first time. I'm trying to think, 748 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 5: what if oh first time on the flight. I think 749 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,200 Speaker 5: I went to Black college, all American. I think I 750 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 5: went to Pittsburgh. I think maybe I flew to see 751 00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 5: my brother play. Oh yeah, but other than now, but 752 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 5: now you wouldn't taking it. You wouldn't. But you missed 753 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 5: that because guess what. We could stop by a convenience store. 754 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 5: They was like, man, the guy was like I I was. 755 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:53,240 Speaker 5: I was a captainist the sow. 756 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 2: The man like man, sean man, I'm holder man, have 757 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 2: Coach David to stop by the stop by the convenience store. 758 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm like coach man, I'm hong a coch 759 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: can we stopped by a convenience store? Coach didn't looked 760 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,800 Speaker 2: at me, say all right, home, we're gonna stop, but 761 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 2: you're responsible for you don't really know what they're gonna 762 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 2: Do're gonna clean. 763 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 3: The store out, y'all. 764 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 4: Y'all had that nil money back then, No. 765 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,320 Speaker 3: We had no nil money. 766 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 2: That's why He told me I was responsible for him 767 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 2: to make sure they put issue their pockets. That's why 768 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: he told me, I'm responsible for and I'm standing to 769 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 2: the door. 770 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 8: Hey mm hmmmm hm take it out, man o Joe, 771 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:39,879 Speaker 8: how that don't look he ain't stop everybody I did. Yeah, 772 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 8: he ain't see everything. But I tell you what. 773 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: Let me tell you what I wouldn't do because I 774 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 2: wanted a few guys that had had a vehicle and 775 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 2: they and people like man to this day, they're like 776 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 2: man seaw wouldn't give nobody ride. Bro, I know who 777 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,239 Speaker 2: had stuff, would follow them out the store. I know 778 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: who a bag of potato, chi up, soda, honey buns, 779 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,680 Speaker 2: it would follow you got the store behind you. So no, 780 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 2: you're not getting in my car because everybody knew who 781 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,719 Speaker 2: my who I was and what I drove. Man, I 782 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 2: just know they got in the car with Shannon. It 783 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: was Shannon Sharp. They ain't gonna say nothing else. It 784 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 2: was Shannon Shark. 785 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 5: Oh no, even if he had a little honey bunny 786 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 5: or slides, a little swish roll or something. 787 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,600 Speaker 2: He's having three dollars, but he gonna come out of 788 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 2: there with five dollars worth of stuff. 789 00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 5: So No, he got something for you. 790 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:30,319 Speaker 3: No, and the mall. Never going to the mall with him, 791 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:31,200 Speaker 3: absolutely not. 792 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 2: Tey, What do you think about the locker room decision 793 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 2: with two of going through his third and fourth major concussions? 794 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:38,040 Speaker 3: How do I mean? 795 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 2: Look, you you can do all you can to try 796 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: to protect the guy, but some point in time, he 797 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 2: got to protect himself. He has to know when the 798 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 2: journey's over. You can't. At no situation should he be allowed. 799 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 2: I don't know what he was thinking, that you're gonna 800 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: go ahead, that you're gonna go head first on. 801 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 3: Somebody knowing your history. 802 00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, know, he definitely, he's he has to be aware, 803 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 5: There's no question about it. 804 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 3: And he is aware. But even more and now it. 805 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,800 Speaker 5: Has to be proven on the on the weekly basis 806 00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 5: that he understands his importance and impact to the to 807 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 5: the team, to the franchise, to the city. Without tour 808 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 5: under center, it's a different it's a different team, it's 809 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 5: a different look. 810 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,439 Speaker 3: But with him under under center, I. 811 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 5: Strongly believe Miami Dalkhins can win any game that he's 812 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 5: the starting quarterback. 813 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,800 Speaker 3: So no, you're you're to get thirty degrees. 814 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 5: Oh, here we go. Let's get it, let's get into it, 815 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 5: let's get into but go ahead, but with go ahead 816 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 5: with tua. Yeah, No, he has to know that, he 817 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 5: has to know how much of a value PC is 818 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 5: and and whatever it needs to do. But just just 819 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 5: knowing that God, knowing how much he love a game 820 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,320 Speaker 5: and the way that he prepares. Man, it's that competitiveness 821 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 5: against Buffalo this year, we're stagnant offensively, we get a 822 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,960 Speaker 5: drive going, and he's trying to extend on the third 823 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 5: down to try to get another first down, and just 824 00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 5: he can't be the one to do it, you know 825 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 5: what I mean. But he's just him being a competitor, 826 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 5: trying to trying to wield a team. 827 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I think I talked uncle and I 828 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,520 Speaker 6: talked about this last last year sometime, uh, when he 829 00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 6: when he went out. I just think he has to 830 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 6: learn to fall a little better on the under undertanding. 831 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 6: But when went to especially I remember that first down 832 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,040 Speaker 6: we went head first, he still got he got up. 833 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 4: Yeah, but it was like one of the moments we'd be. 834 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 5: Like, ah, yeah, yeah, for sure, caled your breath moment 835 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 5: when the journeys over. 836 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, No knowing when the journey's over, and then when 837 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 6: he gets hit, knowing how to fall correctly, you know, 838 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,360 Speaker 6: especially when you go when you go back and you 839 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,319 Speaker 6: don't try to do your best. 840 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 4: I know it's hard, but I was. It's something that 841 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 4: I trained myself to do. 842 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 6: Is when you get tackled, you going backwards, try not 843 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 6: to let your head hit the back of the back 844 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,919 Speaker 6: of the back of the ground as hard as it does. 845 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 4: What I used to do is if I get hit. 846 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 6: Hard and I know it's backwards, I'm going backwards, I 847 00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 6: would tighten up my core and try to keep my 848 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:54,640 Speaker 6: head up right the best I can, the best I can, 849 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 6: just so I don't get that boom, that that that 850 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 6: that initial shock which causes cause the. 851 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 5: That's the one though, the one that you're falling back 852 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,319 Speaker 5: hit the head, that's the one that's yeah, that's the one. 853 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 6: I do my best like I'm holding the ball, but 854 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 6: I do my best as if I'm as if I'm 855 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 6: beer hunting, dude, you know, in a sense literally bear hunting. 856 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 6: I'm just saying, trying to keep my body and my 857 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 6: upper body and torso as close to him as possible 858 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,280 Speaker 6: even on impact, just so most of the force isn't 859 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 6: the back of the head bouncing off? 860 00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 3: Yeah? 861 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,400 Speaker 5: How you feel about them guys on the sideline and 862 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,000 Speaker 5: they jump out of bound or or are you trying 863 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 5: to fall forth for the a few more yards? 864 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 3: What you what you think about that? It all depends 865 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 3: in his situation. 866 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 2: He can't do it, not even on four because he's 867 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,440 Speaker 2: too valuable. He gets down and he gets dean, what 868 00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 2: have you done? Okay, you got the first down. Now 869 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: your backup has to come in and finish out the 870 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 2: ball game, right, Yeah, it is the time. Example Peyton Manny. 871 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 2: Once Peyton Manny hurt that neck, they never let him 872 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 2: do quarterbacks nick again. Yeah, if you notice, they don't 873 00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 2: let Patrick mahons since he hurt his knee. They don't 874 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 2: let Patrick mahone do go straight into the line of scrimmage. 875 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 2: You see, you have to protect the guy. 876 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,320 Speaker 3: No, that's the fact, that's the fact. 877 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:09,800 Speaker 2: Tour he's gonna have. They're not gonna let him do it. Obviously, 878 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 2: you wouldn't do no touch push with tour. But second 879 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 2: of all, Bro, you got slide. It's okay, this slide. 880 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: I'm not looking at the quarterback. Oh he took for 881 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:26,120 Speaker 2: what you've been taking those nigs like that, and they're 882 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,440 Speaker 2: looking to punish you because you don't have the protection 883 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: of the pocket, because once you leave that pocket, you're 884 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,840 Speaker 2: a runner. So I'm gonna hit you like Dare Henry. 885 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:37,319 Speaker 3: Free game, free game. Uh. 886 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 2: I mean you go from you have Drew Brees for 887 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 2: a number of years and then you go from tour? 888 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,799 Speaker 3: What was it? What was it like? What was breeze like? 889 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 5: Breeze was a breeze was a killer man. He was 890 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 5: an assassin. He prepared like like a federal agent. 891 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 3: He was. 892 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 5: He's prepared man like he's trying to build a re 893 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,840 Speaker 5: case on everything that we played. Man, you would did 894 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 5: you hear the cliche first one in, last one to leave? 895 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 5: But that was genuinely him, That was truly him. I 896 00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,560 Speaker 5: would see him on those off days. Man's he's preparing 897 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,239 Speaker 5: like none other. And you've seen it every week. And 898 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 5: it was no matter the outcome of the game too. 899 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,480 Speaker 5: This was the special part about him, Noe. No matter 900 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 5: how he played individually or if it was a winner loss, 901 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,560 Speaker 5: he put the same amount of time in. 902 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: He gave every team the same amount of attention and respect. 903 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,759 Speaker 5: Playing the Falcons twice a year, that second game even 904 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 5: though we just beat them about fifteen two weeks ago. 905 00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,800 Speaker 5: He's going to put those same amount of hours in 906 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 5: and that's why he was He was the greatest. 907 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, T did you understand before? Did you understand 908 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 4: the animosity and the hatred that the Saints fans had 909 00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,719 Speaker 4: for the Falcon fan? 910 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:50,400 Speaker 5: Did you know that? 911 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 3: No? I didn't. Honestly I didn't. I didn't know that 912 00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:53,960 Speaker 3: was such a thing. 913 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 5: But I quickly adopted it, quickly adopted quickly, like I 914 00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 5: hate them folks still. 915 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,359 Speaker 4: They got for listen, I think I found out maybe 916 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 4: two or three years ago. And here I go, try 917 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 4: to have a Kumba y'all moment, trying to. 918 00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 6: Get fans ain't happening. Become wanted the game, you know, yeah, 919 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 6: like man, f No, like you know I'm talking about 920 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 6: like for real, I'm thinking they you know, I think 921 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:20,320 Speaker 6: they play around on Twitter and then people say, like 922 00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:24,120 Speaker 6: this is really I really hate them people like they do. 923 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 2: Not mess with Saints fans, do not mess with Falcon 924 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 2: fans and Falcon fans you best believe then on't they 925 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:31,800 Speaker 2: don't fans? 926 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 3: Yeah? 927 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 5: I hate that serious I had I didn't need it, oho, 928 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 5: But like I said, I quickly adopted it. 929 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,600 Speaker 3: I still hate them to this day. Like I'm not 930 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,040 Speaker 3: rocking with the Falcons ever. 931 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 5: Uh. 932 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 2: Lacers on leather rank the NFL atmosphere from best to worse? 933 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 2: What do you think that of the best atmosphere? NFL 934 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: atmosphere is? What do you think the best? 935 00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 3: What is? 936 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 4: Honestly, Hey, it gotta be between Kansas City and Seattle. 937 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 3: In the city is number one. Okay, I go through 938 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 3: the top ten. 939 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,480 Speaker 2: The Chiefs are one, Packers are two, Three, Hawks are three, 940 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:26,680 Speaker 2: Vikings are four, Ravens are five, Bills are six, Lions 941 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 2: are seven, Saints are eight, Patriots are nine. Cowboys are ten. 942 00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: I don't know how Cowboys made it, cause they ain't 943 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,799 Speaker 2: got no home feeling. They lose all the time. 944 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, for sure. 945 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 5: The stadium nice, though, I think it's just raising the 946 00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 5: stadium ranking the stadium for the Cowboys. 947 00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 3: I don't think it's it's gotta be talking about the environment, 948 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,799 Speaker 3: cause I'm saying to see almost like six games last 949 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,879 Speaker 3: year home. Yeah, and don Cowboys don't that don't really 950 00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 3: have a unless there. 951 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 5: Unless they winning the their fans will show up and 952 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,080 Speaker 5: there's so many people in that stadium we will hear it. 953 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,400 Speaker 5: I'm shocked to hear that that that New Orleans was 954 00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 5: so low on that list. That Super Dome is crazy. 955 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, but y'all, y'all, y'all been, y'all been, y'all been struggling, 956 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:10,919 Speaker 2: y'all been on hard, y'all been some leading years. 957 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:13,640 Speaker 3: So this is this is what last year is like best. 958 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,960 Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, look, I give y'all credit now, y'all, 959 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 2: y'all be making some noise because I remember Katrina when 960 00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,759 Speaker 2: y'all with y'all y'all played in San Antonio. I think 961 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 2: he was in San Antonio when. 962 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:26,520 Speaker 3: They came back. 963 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 2: He blocked that punt on that night game against the 964 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: Falcon I mean you could literally hear it through the television. 965 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,839 Speaker 2: I mean it was this I don't know, and Sean 966 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 2: Payte and all the people say they've never heard it 967 00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 2: that loud before or since that night. 968 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that that was definitely a special moment. 969 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:48,280 Speaker 5: But during my tenure in New Orleans, we were always 970 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 5: it was U y'all was goods the city as far 971 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,720 Speaker 5: as like the loudest crowd noise, the Saints was always 972 00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 5: then near the top. 973 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 2: And I'm not surprised that a look. I mean, look 974 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 2: at it. A lot of these Seahawk vikings A Dome, 975 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:09,200 Speaker 2: Lions Dome, Saints Dome, Cowboys Dome. It's something about when 976 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,360 Speaker 2: you can get a you can get an outdoor arena 977 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 2: and you get that kind of like the Chiefs have. 978 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 2: Like when I played the broncos Man, Oh my, how 979 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,400 Speaker 2: that thing be rocking? They that's seventy six thousand I'm 980 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 2: talking about, they'd be going crazy. 981 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 3: Pole chargers right down here at the bottle. Yeah, yeah, 982 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,560 Speaker 3: charges in Listen. 983 00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 4: I've been in some great atmospheres. 984 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,360 Speaker 6: I played at every stadium that's on here, and I 985 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,520 Speaker 6: honestly no one Number two should be the Bengals. 986 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 4: Honestly. 987 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:42,520 Speaker 3: Bus stop Yeah, cut it out. 988 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 4: Listen, listen to me, stay with me. 989 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,719 Speaker 6: Now, never been in the jungle, boy, You've never been 990 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 6: in jungle on a primetime game in Cincinnati. 991 00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 3: You see what you got to see what you had? 992 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:58,200 Speaker 3: You say, I preface the tea. A time game. 993 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 2: Ain't gotta be no prime time game. It can be 994 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 2: any game. It could be a preseason game. It can 995 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 2: be a note of what you're scrimmaging against yourself under 996 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,480 Speaker 2: the lights. They's gonna be ruckus that ain't what y'all do. 997 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 3: That that's what we do. That's what it's not. 998 00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 4: The coach over there has changed tremendously. 999 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 9: You hear me. 1000 00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 5: I was, yeah, I would when I give you, I 1001 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,840 Speaker 5: give you credit, Joe, it is it has from my 1002 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,719 Speaker 5: earlier years to now. I feel like now is a 1003 00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 5: lot better atmosphere. 1004 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 3: They were. They're all white. Yes, it's rocking that Joe Burrow, 1005 00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 3: the icy white. It's not top ten, not in the 1006 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 3: top ten though. Gu's what, No, it's not when they 1007 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:37,279 Speaker 3: wear them, I said, white. 1008 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:38,920 Speaker 2: All you gonna do is see them see see them 1009 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,759 Speaker 2: scared marks because they gonna poop the band. 1010 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,359 Speaker 3: They already gonna st they gonna do it with poop 1011 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 3: the bed. 1012 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 5: Ain't nothing going on. 1013 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 3: Pop it off. That's that Baltimore raven coming out. I 1014 00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 3: know what that is. I know what that. That's that hatred. 1015 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,879 Speaker 5: Y'alls been asking me about one five in the Saint 1016 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 5: No Stillers, Yeah, y'all still. 1017 00:45:55,960 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers, No, we and us for the in 1018 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,560 Speaker 2: the Denver it would be it was the Raiders, then 1019 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 2: the Chiefs. 1020 00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was it was Feelers. 1021 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,240 Speaker 4: I mean during my time, it was the Ravens. Ravens 1022 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:11,800 Speaker 4: and Steelers. 1023 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:13,799 Speaker 3: It was bad. 1024 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,640 Speaker 2: It was y'all be with Cleveland because y'all try to 1025 00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 2: see who own Ohio. 1026 00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 4: Listen, I worry about y'all with my time. During my time, 1027 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,560 Speaker 4: we used to beat up on the Ravens and the Steelers. 1028 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 3: Well maybe you did. I was. I was long gone 1029 00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,280 Speaker 3: to get them shots on ray middle of the fields. 1030 00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,880 Speaker 3: You saw. 1031 00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:42,439 Speaker 4: That thing on you Black? 1032 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:43,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he put. 1033 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 4: The trip trip tripped, Cardinals, the Bear. 1034 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,400 Speaker 3: The Chargers. So what you're thinking on Joe, what they 1035 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,200 Speaker 3: what they get right, what they get wrong? Who? 1036 00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:55,319 Speaker 9: I mean? 1037 00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 6: Know, this is about right though I'm not sure who 1038 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 6: made this list, but it's about right, you know. But 1039 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 6: the funny thing about it is the fact that some 1040 00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,640 Speaker 6: of the dome teams are a little low. That's a 1041 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,600 Speaker 6: testament to the fans in Seattle, in Green Bay, in 1042 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 6: Kansas City. Yeah, and funny thing the first thing I 1043 00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:13,520 Speaker 6: said before, as soon as you mentioned we were doing 1044 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,160 Speaker 6: a rank in the best stadiums, I said, I said 1045 00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:20,879 Speaker 6: Kansas City and Seattle right away, goddamn loud tea. 1046 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, for sure. 1047 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,359 Speaker 4: I don't know if it's the way the stadium is built, 1048 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 4: I don't know what it is. It's like you be 1049 00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 4: on the field and can't hear nothing. 1050 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,200 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, for sure the Seattle game we played that 1051 00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,120 Speaker 5: my rookie year in the playoffs and up. 1052 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,960 Speaker 3: With the beef quake happened. No, that wasn't that. Man, 1053 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that wasn't. 1054 00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 5: I wasn't a part of that. I would have tripped him. 1055 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 5: But you know, it's second round of the playoffs and Champagne. 1056 00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 5: So we went up there. We kind of like battle 1057 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:52,360 Speaker 5: for the number one seed. Middle of the season. We 1058 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:56,240 Speaker 5: played on Monday night. It's twenty eighth to nothing. Immediately 1059 00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,319 Speaker 5: first quarter they smacked us. So when we go back 1060 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 5: in the playoffs, Champaygton had us all these custom ear pieces. 1061 00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 3: Made dead silence. 1062 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 5: So all week we were these earpieces and we nonverbally 1063 00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,359 Speaker 5: communicated every play, every snapcount, and we got up there 1064 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 5: and we we did it. 1065 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:16,640 Speaker 3: It worked like a charm as far as that. We 1066 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:17,200 Speaker 3: still lost. 1067 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:18,759 Speaker 5: Of course, they went on and won a Super Bowl, 1068 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 5: but it was it was that, y'all to you to 1069 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,320 Speaker 5: your point, it was really it was so loud that 1070 00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:29,800 Speaker 5: it like hurt. So we had these custom earpieces like 1071 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 5: a Kansas City. We did that with Kansas City, but 1072 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,920 Speaker 5: the old Kingdome. Before they built this stadium, they used 1073 00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 5: to have They used to have a dome and see 1074 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,280 Speaker 5: how to call the Kingdome. 1075 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I know that didn't know that they Now it 1076 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,400 Speaker 3: only hold about sixty thousand. But boy, you talk about loud. 1077 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 5: They being that rocket. Now it doesn't always brain in 1078 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,919 Speaker 5: this Seattle. It's always ran in this Seattle. Those people 1079 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,520 Speaker 5: walking around sad all week and they go in the 1080 00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 5: stadium and screen. 1081 00:48:57,880 --> 00:48:59,799 Speaker 3: That's all it is. It's all the rain. 1082 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,480 Speaker 2: The old the astronom was like that steal. Oh, the 1083 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,239 Speaker 2: House of Pain. Used to call it the House of Pain. 1084 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 2: They did well, you know, they had warm moon, they 1085 00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,320 Speaker 2: ran the running shoot and their defense made. 1086 00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:15,279 Speaker 9: Hm. 1087 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:16,080 Speaker 5: Boy. 1088 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,240 Speaker 3: But the Bills, the Bills is like the Bill Stadium. 1089 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,480 Speaker 3: That's loud. They got it. 1090 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 2: I don't know they call it now. I don't know 1091 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,120 Speaker 2: what they call it in Mark or whatever. They call 1092 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,480 Speaker 2: it high Mark or something. But it used to be 1093 00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:32,359 Speaker 2: called uh Rich Stadium. Oh Joe, Yeah, them joke gonna 1094 00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:33,520 Speaker 2: be talking about let's go Buffalo. 1095 00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. It's hard. Yeah, it's that. 1096 00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 3: That's that's that was one of my favorite plays to 1097 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 3: play throughout my career and start jumping around there, you 1098 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,600 Speaker 3: better tell it. Yeah, no, that it's hard. It's hard. 1099 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,000 Speaker 3: They got a nice atmosphere up there. 1100 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,200 Speaker 4: Buffalo got some crazy fans. 1101 00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,920 Speaker 3: They tell me they're jumping, wrestling, jumping on the tables. 1102 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, no, they got real football up there, real 1103 00:49:58,800 --> 00:49:59,959 Speaker 5: football atmosphere. 1104 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 4: You know it's funny too, t when you think about it. 1105 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:02,440 Speaker 3: Unk. 1106 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:06,680 Speaker 4: Listen, Buffalo. Buffalo fans deserve their flowers anytime it comes 1107 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:11,400 Speaker 4: to donating. You know, when they have them, what Buffalo 1108 00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,600 Speaker 4: fans come through like no other. 1109 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,200 Speaker 3: No, that's the fun, that's a fun. 1110 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:17,439 Speaker 4: They always show love. 1111 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,160 Speaker 3: Man, they used the tragedy. They always lose, so they 1112 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:22,040 Speaker 3: know how to have to lose the well you know 1113 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,040 Speaker 3: what I mean, Like they know. 1114 00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,399 Speaker 5: How to get close, get to the door and get 1115 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 5: close shut on them. So they used to lose and they. 1116 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:29,799 Speaker 3: Know to handle it will. 1117 00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 2: Oh so you good Chiefs one, Packers, se Yawk's, Vikings, Ravens, Bills, Lions, Saints, Patriots, Cowboys. 1118 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 5: Ain's too low, Saints too low? You think Saints should 1119 00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 5: be in the top five. 1120 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 3: Real real Saints atmosphere, top top three environment? Oh whoa 1121 00:50:58,239 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 3: hold on? 1122 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:01,160 Speaker 4: If the Saints top three environment and then Cincinnati was 1123 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:01,759 Speaker 4: damn show. 1124 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:05,279 Speaker 3: Who got to be no argument, It ain't even in 1125 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 3: the same Yeah. 1126 00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,880 Speaker 2: No, I haven't played in this new stadium, but the 1127 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 2: old Metro Dome. You played no Metro Dome, right. 1128 00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:19,280 Speaker 3: Tea, crazy crazy them too. I can't stand. 1129 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 2: I played up there, man, when they had they had 1130 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,759 Speaker 2: Johnny Randall, they had Chris Doman rest his soul, they 1131 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,839 Speaker 2: had ke Keith Millard, they had Alga and they had 1132 00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,040 Speaker 2: Henry Thomas. Hank boy, they had a defense out of 1133 00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 2: this one. Yeah, boy, boy, boy boy. If Floyd the 1134 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:40,760 Speaker 2: defensive court down, I think it was Floyd Peters, Floyd Floyd. 1135 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 2: What's Floyd's last name? I think it was Reese. Boy 1136 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 2: you're talking about Come man, don't let them sack. Don't 1137 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:51,760 Speaker 2: you let them take that quarterback? 1138 00:51:51,840 --> 00:52:03,440 Speaker 3: Tea? Yeah, yeah, sure, all right, Jordan, because right now 1139 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:05,520 Speaker 3: he just logged on for fact. 1140 00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 2: He one of the all the first athlete, the original 1141 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,239 Speaker 2: music mad fan god. He's been try We've been trying 1142 00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 2: to get him on for a minute. We linked up 1143 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:15,480 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago. He said, man, let me 1144 00:52:15,560 --> 00:52:18,280 Speaker 2: come on back out and here you ladies and gentlemen, 1145 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 2: your favorite rappers, favorite rapper. 1146 00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,040 Speaker 9: What what's up, hunk? What's up? 1147 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:22,279 Speaker 5: Oh? 1148 00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:24,520 Speaker 3: Then what they do? 1149 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 5: Man? 1150 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 9: We live in life, We blessed, We alive. 1151 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:27,399 Speaker 5: Man. 1152 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 10: I'm loving the man. Happy to be here with you. 1153 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,040 Speaker 10: Are you'all nor I'm a big fan of the show. 1154 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 10: Shout out to my my guy up there, man, big dog. 1155 00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 10: I'm not a Dolphins fan, but I'm a Dolphins supporter. 1156 00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 10: I'm a Dolphins supporter. 1157 00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 9: I got fan out of Miami. But shut out to you, man, 1158 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 9: shout out to the whole crew. 1159 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,080 Speaker 3: Yes, sure, shout out told you. 1160 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:48,400 Speaker 2: Make sure you're from the faith living in LA Now, 1161 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,080 Speaker 2: So were you a Raiders fan? You're a forty nine 1162 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:51,520 Speaker 2: Ers fan. 1163 00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 9: I'm a Raider. 1164 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:53,520 Speaker 3: You see that. 1165 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 9: The Niners to us, they like the They like the 1166 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:58,759 Speaker 9: prima donnas of the Bay. 1167 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 5: You learn it like that they liked the. 1168 00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,759 Speaker 10: Pretty girl at school. Everybody want the Raiders. We got 1169 00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:07,879 Speaker 10: in there, Gritton. Growing up, my mom was in real estate, 1170 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,879 Speaker 10: so one of her first real estate deals was Lance Johnstone. 1171 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,839 Speaker 10: When he came to the Raiders, he used to give 1172 00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,000 Speaker 10: us tickets to the game and my mom would always 1173 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:19,480 Speaker 10: take me to the game. And then one of my 1174 00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 10: close friends, Taiwan Jones, he was drafted to the Raiders 1175 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 10: from our high school, Deer Valley. So always been a 1176 00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:29,799 Speaker 10: big Raider fan, Marshawn Lynch, Charles Woodson, you'd always been 1177 00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:30,719 Speaker 10: a big Raider fan. 1178 00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 3: Man, All right, we'll get you out here. CJ. 1179 00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,399 Speaker 2: Gardner Johnson goes off on DC big FANGI on ig. 1180 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 2: I was a tenth dummy for them, So now they 1181 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:45,080 Speaker 2: can be like my scheme work or did my skills 1182 00:53:45,120 --> 00:53:48,359 Speaker 2: set make it work? I had zero issues. People had 1183 00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,279 Speaker 2: issues with me, So yeah, let the salary cap be 1184 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:56,280 Speaker 2: the excuse. Uh, big Fangio. He said that CJ. Gardner 1185 00:53:56,360 --> 00:54:00,319 Speaker 2: Johnson trade was a salary cap issue, a salary cap thing, 1186 00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:01,719 Speaker 2: and I'm fine with it. 1187 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,399 Speaker 3: Just don't let the young guys know like y'all did. 1188 00:54:06,280 --> 00:54:09,360 Speaker 9: Hey, uh what. 1189 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:10,600 Speaker 3: What hold on? Man? 1190 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:15,160 Speaker 2: Basically, he said the situation was a big fan of 1191 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:18,640 Speaker 2: Joe the defensive coordinator. He said they traded him because 1192 00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:21,040 Speaker 2: it was a salary cap issue. Now, they didn't save 1193 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:22,879 Speaker 2: a whole lot of money, maybe a couple of hundred 1194 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:27,600 Speaker 2: thousand dollars, but moving forward, because you got who you 1195 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:30,839 Speaker 2: got coming up, o Jo, you got that big dog 1196 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 2: up front, he gonna it's gonna take some break big 1197 00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,799 Speaker 2: And then you got, you're gonna have brother. You're gonna 1198 00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:41,520 Speaker 2: have brother Mitchell. He gonna be coming up and you're 1199 00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,000 Speaker 2: gonna have to of the Jon. He gonna be coming up. 1200 00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 4: Right, So they clean the house. 1201 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 2: Oh you know, but it happens, Bro, You got a ring, 1202 00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 2: You got an opportunity to come back. You gotta ring, 1203 00:54:56,760 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 2: and and somebody wanted you. When somebody trades you to y'all, 1204 00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:02,440 Speaker 2: let me know what you think about this team. When 1205 00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,560 Speaker 2: somebody trade for you, they're telling you they want you. Okay, Tho, 1206 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:08,640 Speaker 2: the team didn't want me. This new team traded for me. 1207 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,360 Speaker 2: They gave up something to give me. So clearly they 1208 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:14,360 Speaker 2: see the value in me, even if the old team doesn't. 1209 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:17,200 Speaker 3: J J. He real passionate, man. 1210 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,800 Speaker 5: He's very vocal. That's that's his that's his his biggest attribute. 1211 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 3: His passion. 1212 00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,040 Speaker 5: The way that he play the game is like that's 1213 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,399 Speaker 5: how he is off the field too, though. He's very 1214 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:27,719 Speaker 5: he's very vocal, very passionate. So if it's the way 1215 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 5: that he's feeling, you really can't convince him otherwise. So like, 1216 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,799 Speaker 5: even though that the Houston Texans did want him, they 1217 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:35,240 Speaker 5: wanted him, they traded for him, they gave away compensation 1218 00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 5: for him to be a part of their team. 1219 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,040 Speaker 3: CJ is still gonna let let Philly know how you feel. 1220 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 3: That's just that's just how he is. That's how you are. 1221 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know I told her CD all the time. Man, 1222 00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,000 Speaker 6: CJ and I are really close. Like like T said, 1223 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,879 Speaker 6: he's very passionate about that's about the way the game, 1224 00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:53,759 Speaker 6: the game of football in general, the way it is 1225 00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,080 Speaker 6: and some of the things that that that he knows 1226 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,840 Speaker 6: what's going on. I think he allows that passion and 1227 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,600 Speaker 6: love for the game. He gets that it's business at. 1228 00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,440 Speaker 2: The end of the day, always has been, always will be. 1229 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:10,439 Speaker 2: And it's tough though. It's tough when you devote so much, 1230 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:12,640 Speaker 2: you know, like you said, think about it. You getting 1231 00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:16,160 Speaker 2: out there and you can't walk until Wednesday, and you're 1232 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,120 Speaker 2: out there hobbling, and you doing everything you can to 1233 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,399 Speaker 2: give them everything you can and then they do something 1234 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 2: like this. 1235 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:26,920 Speaker 3: So yeah, I definitely get it. I'm trying to some 1236 00:56:27,239 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 3: want dad. 1237 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 10: So three of you guys, like, what is it like 1238 00:56:30,800 --> 00:56:33,880 Speaker 10: kind of being married to a situation. You may have 1239 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 10: bought a home in this city or whatever it may be. 1240 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 10: You raised the family here and because it's time to 1241 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,520 Speaker 10: blow it up and we want to get younger players. 1242 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 9: And what's that like? That transition like having to know 1243 00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:45,360 Speaker 9: you gotta leave. 1244 00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 6: Right you understand it, you understand it, see him like 1245 00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 6: I already do. At some point I knew my time 1246 00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,759 Speaker 6: was coming. I didn't know when that they would be, 1247 00:56:54,239 --> 00:56:56,200 Speaker 6: but obviously I was able to squeeze out ten years 1248 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,000 Speaker 6: normally ten years to your cutoff point, no matter how 1249 00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,000 Speaker 6: good you are. If you go down the list of 1250 00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:03,440 Speaker 6: some of the great receivers, that have been very few 1251 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:05,480 Speaker 6: that stayed on one team for a very long time. 1252 00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:07,960 Speaker 4: The two that I can think of, maybe the longest 1253 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:10,400 Speaker 4: might have been Jerry Rice and Larry and Gerald. 1254 00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:11,280 Speaker 3: You know Jerry. 1255 00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 6: Jerry at some point left for Larry for Jerald's one 1256 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,440 Speaker 6: of the few I can think of that stayed at 1257 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 6: one organization for a very long time. I knew my 1258 00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 6: time was coming. 1259 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,280 Speaker 4: So while I was there, wherever I was at, whatever cars, 1260 00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:22,960 Speaker 4: I was there, but I was from the play in 1261 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 4: my hand SAE, I had fun. 1262 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,680 Speaker 6: So when that time did come, you know, I was 1263 00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,959 Speaker 6: at peace with it because I understood the business side 1264 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:32,240 Speaker 6: of it, which is why I chose to have fun instead. 1265 00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,880 Speaker 4: Because I understood the politics and businesside that came with it. 1266 00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 2: You know it's going to happen, but it doesn't make 1267 00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,400 Speaker 2: it any easierts what you or what you give to 1268 00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:44,720 Speaker 2: that organization. All those painkilling injections that I took, all that, 1269 00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,840 Speaker 2: all all that, those those poor doll shots that I 1270 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 2: took just to be able to go play, and now 1271 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 2: I have one down year, You're like, oh. 1272 00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:53,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll be good. 1273 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,880 Speaker 2: Seven consecutive Pro Bowls, first Team All Pro through five 1274 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 2: yard all that. Man, it's tough to y'all. Hey T, 1275 00:58:03,880 --> 00:58:06,000 Speaker 2: I ain't gonna tell you no, Like, yeah that is. 1276 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, bro, Damn, I thought I was gonna be 1277 00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,000 Speaker 2: one of them John Elways, I'm gonna get me twelve thirteen, 1278 00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:12,600 Speaker 2: oh T with one thing. 1279 00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 3: Yeah No, it's real. It's real, simple for real. 1280 00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 5: Just and just to add to what Ocho and Uncle's saying, 1281 00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:26,000 Speaker 5: especially it's today's media and Adam Schefter and Ian Rappaport 1282 00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 5: them guys get the news before you do, you know 1283 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 5: what I mean. So that's that's the part that I've 1284 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 5: seen we be really impactful negatively to some players. I 1285 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,960 Speaker 5: had one of my teammates here in the Saints. He 1286 00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 5: was a running back and we Bro we chilling in 1287 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:43,040 Speaker 5: training camp, playing the game, and he just scrolling on Twitter. Bro, 1288 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 5: he just got released by the Saints. He had no idea, Like, 1289 00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:50,720 Speaker 5: no idea, it was real. He got released. They kept 1290 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:52,400 Speaker 5: one of the rookie running backs that they had they 1291 00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 5: had drafted, so on Twitter, he had no idea, you 1292 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 5: know what I mean, that's the part that hurt. 1293 00:58:57,680 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 3: The fact of the matter is is what Oko. 1294 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 2: And now we go around sometimes I'm like, Bro, when 1295 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 2: Adam Schefter and these guys be talking, where do you 1296 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:04,880 Speaker 2: think they're getting that from? 1297 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 3: They getting that from the teams, They're getting. 1298 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,840 Speaker 2: That from the general managers, they getting that from owners, 1299 00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 2: They're getting that from playing personnel director. They're getting that 1300 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:17,040 Speaker 2: from NFL sources. Oh look, yes they do. I mean 1301 00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:20,040 Speaker 2: Adam Schefter making you know, long, lots of money. These 1302 00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 2: were these are insiders. They make a lot of money 1303 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 2: and they built up great relationships because and this is 1304 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,640 Speaker 2: why they say anonymous. This is why they say sources, 1305 00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:31,720 Speaker 2: because the moment they give up one source, they're done. 1306 00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 2: I hope you've made a lot of money, because if 1307 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,280 Speaker 2: you give up one source, nobody will ever go on 1308 00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,520 Speaker 2: record with you again. Nobody will ever tell you. Ish, 1309 00:59:40,120 --> 00:59:43,640 Speaker 2: That's why Adam Schefter got all those phones. That's why 1310 00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:44,439 Speaker 2: he taking calls. 1311 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,280 Speaker 3: He's live on air taking calls. That's crazy. There main 1312 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 3: no dummy calls. 1313 00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,120 Speaker 10: That's crazy. That's why I got so much love for 1314 00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,880 Speaker 10: the King. You know, we see out the eye when 1315 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,800 Speaker 10: it come to King James Unk. That's why I got 1316 00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:59,000 Speaker 10: so much love for the King because these organizations got 1317 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 10: the ability to move you where they want you to be, 1318 01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 10: but you never kind of got the opportunity to pick 1319 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 10: where you want to go. 1320 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:08,080 Speaker 5: All right, So but let me ask you one question. 1321 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 5: I'm gonna get out of your guys way going going 1322 01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 5: through your discography. Man, what's it like to have a 1323 01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,720 Speaker 5: song with the legendary DMX. Man? 1324 01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 9: Honestly, bro, Like, I can't, I can't. 1325 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 10: I can't tell you because the way that happened, I 1326 01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:27,000 Speaker 10: really wasn't involved on the process of that. That was 1327 01:00:27,120 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 10: Joinner Lucas's team and him and X had a relationship, 1328 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:35,080 Speaker 10: and right before X had passed, I believe that might 1329 01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,720 Speaker 10: have been the last verse. Joiner told me that he 1330 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 10: might have laid before he passed. Me had a great 1331 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:43,160 Speaker 10: relationship and they had laid a song and one day 1332 01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,520 Speaker 10: Joiner hit me. He was like, yo, I got this 1333 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:47,560 Speaker 10: joint me and X did, I want you to get 1334 01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 10: on it? And of course I was honored to be 1335 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 10: a part of it. Is ex I grew up trying 1336 01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,439 Speaker 10: to be like X, from rapping like him to trying 1337 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 10: to act like them in Exit Wounds, you know, So. 1338 01:00:58,680 --> 01:01:01,280 Speaker 9: It was just a blessing to be a part of it, honestly, Man, 1339 01:01:03,040 --> 01:01:03,479 Speaker 9: I dope. 1340 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 2: Man, Yeah with TI, I know you got to get 1341 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:09,919 Speaker 2: out of here. Man, I appreciate that. We appreciate your time. 1342 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,600 Speaker 2: Good looking shot. You guys get some more time. Hey, 1343 01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,440 Speaker 2: stop back by with us again. Man, we love to 1344 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 2: have you first. 1345 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 3: Man, I appreciate you guys. Love Yeah, hold on all right, 1346 01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:23,400 Speaker 3: what you got hey, tell us about the YouTube channel 1347 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,560 Speaker 3: youre getting ready to launch. 1348 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,880 Speaker 5: Boom oh yeah, just really man, being a big fan 1349 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,360 Speaker 5: of you guys, showing everything you guys doing. I'm looking 1350 01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:32,959 Speaker 5: to get into my own I want to talk O line. 1351 01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:35,040 Speaker 5: I want to talk on line D line. Get some 1352 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 5: details of the trenches. How Kobe and Peyton Manning had 1353 01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 5: the detailed show and they really broke down right what 1354 01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:41,640 Speaker 5: they're seeing, how they analyze the game. 1355 01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,160 Speaker 3: I want to be one of those. 1356 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,520 Speaker 5: People and kind of really take over that that avenue 1357 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,560 Speaker 5: for O line D line to where it's okay, easily digestible. 1358 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:52,720 Speaker 5: So I can I can be an educator in that space. 1359 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:55,200 Speaker 5: So you know what technique is used, you know who 1360 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,560 Speaker 5: that sack is on and how it happened, you know 1361 01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,520 Speaker 5: what I mean. That's going to be a part of 1362 01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,919 Speaker 5: my YouTube show. So Toronto on the Stead show coming. 1363 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,600 Speaker 5: So man, I appreciate you guys. You already got a partner, 1364 01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:07,080 Speaker 5: We got some we got some things. 1365 01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:10,600 Speaker 3: We got something. Yeah, we gotta talk online, got to talk. 1366 01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:14,400 Speaker 4: God, h you got you gotta talk to you know, 1367 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 4: Big Willy Andson. 1368 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:16,520 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. 1369 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:20,480 Speaker 6: Yeah, we believe, we believe we'd be real good in 1370 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:24,200 Speaker 6: that space, especially from an informative standpoint playing playing the 1371 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 6: old line position. 1372 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,000 Speaker 3: Man, gonna be there for sure. Yeah, all right, what TV. 1373 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:33,280 Speaker 2: We really appreciate Daddy YouTube show launched on June seventeenth. 1374 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,160 Speaker 2: He's gonna break down. It's gonna be the final points 1375 01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,120 Speaker 2: of old line and D line play. What actually happened? 1376 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:41,960 Speaker 2: The set, quick set, jump set, He watched the staff, 1377 01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 2: he dropped down, he played for the bull. He's been 1378 01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:47,720 Speaker 2: all that stuff all the good stuff and the interesting 1379 01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:50,120 Speaker 2: stuff that a lot of people don't talk about. You'll 1380 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 2: be able to get that on tear Toront's YouTube channel, 1381 01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 2: so check it out. Is launching June seventeenth. T Appreciate 1382 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,360 Speaker 2: your time, man, and when you start back by with. 1383 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 9: His book Shut Out Teeth. 1384 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:03,200 Speaker 5: The volume