1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Today, I have the 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: pleasure of being joined by one of my favorite state 3 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: representatives from right here in Michigan. He is a man 4 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: who falls into the category of vaccine injured after the 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: COVID vaccine. But before we get into all of that, first, 6 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: I want to tell you about American Financing. It's twenty 7 00:00:19,040 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: twenty four and a lot of us are trying to 8 00:00:20,760 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: get our finances in order. And there's some great news 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: for homeowners. 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Brad welcome. 28 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 2: Hey, thanks Tudor. 29 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: I appreciate you having me on, and yeah, there's a 30 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 3: lot of important things to talk about. Sharing my story 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: I think is very important, especially because it is so outrageous. 32 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: But I can just kick it off if you'd like, 33 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 2: just jump into it at you. 34 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love that. I mean, I want to 35 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: just quickly say, Brad, you were one of the people, 36 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: the first people to sit with me talk to me 37 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: when I was running for office. You, I think are 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: one of the most dedicated guys out there, having been 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: a teacher, being so dedicated to children, and I just 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: want people to know that your background and who you 41 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 1: are is very genuine. And so when I actually when 42 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: I got the call that this happened to you, I 43 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: was completely floored, and I think we were all completely floored, 44 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: and then to find out that this was connected to 45 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: the vaccine. All right, go ahead, tell the story. 46 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I actually recollect when you texted me. I was 47 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 3: laying in the hospital bed there. It was actually close 48 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 3: to my birthday. But one of the things when my 49 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 3: wife and I have been reflecting on this a lot lately, 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 3: because seeing it from her perspective, it was pretty traumatizing. 51 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: But yeah, we were going to travel Sydney and I 52 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: and we were actually going to go on the Israel trip, 53 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: the legislative Israel trip, and so I had to get 54 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 3: vaccinated for that, and so I went to Walmart. I 55 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 3: got the Maderna vaccine. The first vaccine had no issue. 56 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 3: The second one I got on November of twenty twenty one, 57 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: and I had piercing heart pain. 58 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 2: The next day. 59 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: I was actually had a fundraiser in Lansing and I 60 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 3: had to sit down. I was sweating, and it was 61 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 3: just the worst pain that I had felt ever, never 62 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 3: had that type of pain before. And so it went 63 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 3: away after a couple of minutes, which was kind of scary. 64 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: I told my wife about it and then she's like, Okay, well, 65 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 3: let's see if it happens again. Kept on reoccurring, coming back, 66 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 3: not as painful as the first time over the next 67 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: couple of weeks. 68 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 2: So Sydney pushed me to go to the doctor. I 69 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 2: did not want to, but I did. 70 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: What a shock. I mean, I don't want to call 71 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: you out, but you are a guy. 72 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 2: Yep, yeah, it's strong enough. 73 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 3: So I ended up going and yeah, I was thirty 74 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,079 Speaker 3: three years old at the time. And the doctor I 75 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 3: kept asking because I was like, is this related to 76 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: the vaccine? Is it milecarditis? Talked to me and he's like, well, 77 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 3: if it's milcarditis, we wouldn't know, we wouldn't have anything 78 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 3: to do to treat it. And I was like, well, 79 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: I have piercing heart pain right the day after. You know, 80 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: it's got to be really well. 81 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: I don't know. 82 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: And so I had an irregular heartbeat as well, he said, 83 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 3: which in my thirty three years of living, I've never 84 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: heard that before. And he said, yeah, well this should 85 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 3: just go away on its own. You're healthy, you play 86 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 3: ice hockey, you should be fine. 87 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: And so, and just to be clear for people who 88 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: are just listening to this, you are very healthy. You 89 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: are a guy who was very active in good shape. 90 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: This is not like someone that you go, okay, well, 91 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: I can sort of see maybe there were some other 92 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: other underlying factors there. You were a healthy thirty three. 93 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, And he did the EKG. They did a blood test. 94 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 3: It all checked out. He said, I was fine. I'm like, 95 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: all right, it sounds good. You're the doctor. And you know, 96 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 3: with those questions though, I kept on asking those questions. 97 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: I wanted to make sure that he put it in 98 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 3: the record there because one thing I was curious about 99 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: was kind of how they track data around adverse reactions too. 100 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: So you know a lot of this, I do believe, 101 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,039 Speaker 3: you know, just to step away from a second that 102 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: a lot of this happened for a very specific reason. 103 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 3: I'm alive for a very specific reason. And God does 104 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,919 Speaker 3: things in my in my estimation, to teach us some 105 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 3: lessons sometimes and to show yeah, what we're meant to do. 106 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: Uh So, yeah, this this battle is definitely one that 107 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 3: first first hand experience on. So after that, I went home. 108 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 3: In a couple months later, I was actually playing a 109 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 3: Sunday night ice hockey game. I got back home. It 110 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 3: was five days after my baby Lincoln was born. My 111 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 3: boy and got home. It was around like eleven thirty pm, 112 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 3: and I just had this vacuum feeling in my chest 113 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 3: and so took a shower, put my hands above my head. 114 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 3: Just kept getting worse. So Sydney told me we had 115 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 3: to go to the er, even with our five day 116 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 3: old goodness for her, yeah, she's a peach. 117 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: So we went this is a clear difference in gender. 118 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean, this is if anything tells us there's a 119 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: difference in gender, this is it. 120 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 3: Well we can that too later on down the road, 121 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,479 Speaker 3: but for sure. So we get to the er and 122 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, it's starting to get better at wanting 123 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: to go back home, Like Aby's five days old. 124 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 2: We shouldn't be doing this. We go in there. 125 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 3: They took my blood pressure and my blood pressure was 126 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 3: two twenty over one eighty. They did another EKG and 127 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 3: they said okay, they sent me back to the waiting room. 128 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:01,600 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, worse paid the sweating, and Sydney's like, no, 129 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 3: he needs to go in now. 130 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 2: So they bring me in the back and I'm just 131 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 2: terrible pain. 132 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 3: And I'm there for a couple of hours and these 133 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 3: guys like I'm in scrubs, right after hockey and everything, 134 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 3: and you know, my wife is in scrubs, five day 135 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 3: old baby, and the doctors were. 136 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 2: They gave me some morphine. 137 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 3: And they thought I was on drugs because the pain 138 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 3: didn't go away with morphine and I was sitting there, 139 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 3: still struggling, and they had the doctor came out, the 140 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:26,919 Speaker 3: er doc. He's like, yeah, we got some bets on 141 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: you man. We think he might be on something. And 142 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 3: they're betting beers in the back and he told us this, 143 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 3: and so it's it's it's it's alarming. But there was 144 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 3: a nurse who was down there and I never got 145 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 3: her name, but she was down there and she actually said, 146 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 3: let's give him some nitroglycerin, and so they gave me 147 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 3: some nitroglystering and that. 148 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 2: Actually made it feel better. It helped. 149 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: So they realized that I should probably be in the 150 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 3: cardiac unit. So they sent me up to the cardiac unit. 151 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 3: And I'm there, I'm speaking to the cardiologist. I'm asking 152 00:06:56,920 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: the question, is this related to the vaccine? I was 153 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: in the doctor with pierce heart pain. Now I've got 154 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 3: something going on again. What's happening. They did a heart 155 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 3: echo and there's this traveling nurse there. Her name was Chris, 156 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 3: and he looks at the heart echo. He's like, this 157 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: looks all right, this looks good. But the traveling nurse, Chris, 158 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: she says, and she stayed with me for the next 159 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 3: couple of days, talking to me. Godsend, she's a godsend. 160 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 3: But she said, hey, look a little bit closer here, 161 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 3: and she pointed to like my septum or something. And 162 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: he's like, well, maybe we should do a heart catheter procedure. 163 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: And so they end up doing the procedure and they 164 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 3: put die in your veins. They can see everything that's 165 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 3: going on in your heart. And I'm on the table 166 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: and I'm conscious that you know, I'm awake. He's like, 167 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: holy crap, And there's a blood clot in my left 168 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 3: a trim and or a part of my heart that 169 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 3: it shouldn't be left, left a trium where it shouldn't be, 170 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 3: and it's blocking ninety five percent of my coronal artery. 171 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 3: And so he goes out to my wife after he 172 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 3: removes most of it, and he goes up to my wife, 173 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 3: he's like, yeah, your husband would have died if he 174 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,800 Speaker 3: wasn't in here, he would have died. Tell's Sydney that 175 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: obviously she's a wreck. So you know, we've been recollecting 176 00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 3: a lot of that. But so I go out afterwards. 177 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: My whole family's in the doctor's room right after this procedure. 178 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: I'm like grateful for that. My question goes into, well 179 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: was this related to the vaccine? Because I came in, 180 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 3: checked my chart. I came in, I was asking about this, 181 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 3: and they're like, no, couldn't have been the vaccine, couldn't 182 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 3: have been. 183 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: No, of course not. Why would you say that? 184 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: And I ended up actually switching my cardiologists because of this, 185 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: because the way I went it was a circular reason. 186 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 3: I'm just like, I asked them this question because I 187 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 3: have all these different hematologists, came in, all these different folks. 188 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: I'm asking, is this isn't related at all to the vaccine? 189 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 2: It couldn't be. 190 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 3: And so they ended up seeding that, yeah, I probably 191 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 3: had myocarditis from when I first went in inflammation. 192 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 1: Of the heart, and so I asked from the vaccine. 193 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 3: Yes, and so well I went to mail clinic as well, 194 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 3: and they confirmed that as well as that when I 195 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 3: first had those issues after that it was most likely myocarditis. 196 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 3: And so they confirmed that, and then my doctor cardiologist 197 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 3: confirmed it as well. So I asked them while I 198 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 3: was in there, and this is, you know, right after 199 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 3: again five six day old babies there. 200 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 2: This is right before my birthday, thirty fourth birthday, and 201 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: so I'm asking them. 202 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 3: I'm saying, hey, can inflammation of the heart or an 203 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 3: irregular heartbeat cause a blood clot in the heart and 204 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:22,079 Speaker 3: they say yes. I say, can the vaccine cause inflammation 205 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: of the heart and they say yes. Could the vaccine 206 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: have caused this heart attack? 207 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:27,400 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, it couldn't have been. 208 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: So this was originally as I was asking them, and 209 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 3: I had to switch my cardiologist, and it was on 210 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: the rest of the nurse Chris, because they were telling 211 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: me because I was asking all sorts of questions about this, 212 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 3: and they're telling me they're seeing all these younger people 213 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 3: in the cardiac unit all these issues that are happening. 214 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 3: And I get my cardiologists. He comes in and he's 215 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 3: entertaining my conversation and he's talking about this. He's like, yeah, 216 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: we're seeing some different things here. It's kind of strange. 217 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 3: And I'm like, could be vaccine related? He's like, yeah, probably, 218 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 3: it could be a lot of them say, what could 219 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: be just COVID infection, which whatever, I had COVID back 220 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty of February or March t when things 221 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 3: first started shutting down. That's when I had it. It was 222 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 3: you know, as rough hadn't had it since then. I 223 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 3: get tested regularly. My wife's stepfather is you know, he's 224 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: a PBM representative, so whenever we go over to their 225 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 3: house and stuff, they make us test all this stuff. 226 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: And so I hadn't had COVID recently. But that's what 227 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 3: people say is that this has probably related COVID, And 228 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I had piercing heart pain right after 229 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 3: this vaccine, and so I start telling my story and 230 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 3: people just they'll come at you heart viciously. 231 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're lying. 232 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you doing? So if I didn't 233 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 3: have this heart attack and this is the problem. I 234 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 3: filed my veyar's report, my vaccine injury. I put that in, 235 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 3: you know, they put in my madurna shot and the 236 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 3: day I took it, all the all the details of 237 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 3: my uh my chart and hadn't heard back from the 238 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 3: federal government yet. This has been like a year almost 239 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 3: and a half that I filed that report, and a 240 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: lot of other people probably had some issues, maybe not 241 00:10:56,559 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: as intense as mine, whether it be just myocarditis or 242 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 3: you know, other irregular heartbeats and other types of issues 243 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 3: that they had that doctors probably pawned off and said, oh, 244 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: it's stress or you have anxiety. You know, it could 245 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: have been whatever, and we're not gathering any of that data. 246 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 3: And to the contrary, I think a lot of doctors 247 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 3: who bought this narrative hook Line and Sinker don't want 248 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 3: to highlight the fact that these vaccines that they pushed, 249 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 3: these shots, they aren't even technically vaccines. Their shots are 250 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: harming people. And so I've got two other colleagues in 251 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 3: the Michigan House too, that had heart attacks after they 252 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,320 Speaker 3: got the shot, and they had very similar experiences with 253 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: their doctors. 254 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: Their doctors whereas. 255 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 3: One was a Pfizer and the other one was Maderna 256 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: and so Repporton and rep Roth they actually hit and 257 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 3: so we came up with a package of bills after this, 258 00:11:44,960 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 3: But we talked about our stories and they're very similar. 259 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: But their doctors were very more forthright saying, yeah, this 260 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 3: is the vaccine that caused this heart attack. For you, 261 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,239 Speaker 3: but I can't say it publicly, they said, because. 262 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 1: A lot of these guys are crazy. I mean that, 263 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: how often do we have to hear that in why? 264 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: Why can't Why would we allow this to continue? Why 265 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: are they still having people get vaccinated if they know that? 266 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: Well? I know, and that's why. 267 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 3: So my biggest mistake I've made in the legislature is 268 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 3: that I voted for funding back in twenty twenty one. 269 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 3: Like at the end of the budget, they are supplemental 270 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 3: to help supply the vaccine. If people wanted to get it, 271 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 3: they wanted to get the shot, they should be allowed 272 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 3: for them. So I voted for that. And now I 273 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 3: think that that's a huge regret because a lot of 274 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: these taxpayer dollars too. You still see all the advertisements 275 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 3: on Hulu or wherever for kids six months and up. 276 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 3: Now I'm chirping on x here about CDC saying, oh, 277 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 3: everyone needs to get these shots, update your shots. And 278 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 3: it's like the public is, you know, they're fed up 279 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 3: with this. And I'll sit out with constituents having coffee 280 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 3: and I'll be speaking, and obviously my voice is a 281 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 3: little bit louder, so it carries and people will come 282 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 3: up to me and they'll be like, hey, I had 283 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 3: some issues as well, and my doctor shrugged it off. 284 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: And I hear that pretty constantly when I'm out and 285 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:54,800 Speaker 3: among constituents in the public. 286 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 287 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. I mean, we've had students at 288 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 1: school with strange bloodclot incidences and no one knows. And 289 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: I think that the real issue is because you're not 290 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: allowed to talk about it, and because it doesn't get studied, 291 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 1: we really don't know. Is it COVID, Is it the vaccine? 292 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: How many cases of people having this without having the vaccine? 293 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: That's what I would like to know. How many people 294 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: that had COVID had a heart issue that did not 295 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: have the vaccine? How can we not? I know there's 296 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: a way of studying this, but no one's willing to 297 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: do it. And why because it would be a catastrophic result. 298 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 3: I don't think people want to apologize, especially when you 299 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 3: look in the public eye. Yet the science, right, science 300 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 3: is about applying rigorous skepticism to observations of things. Okay, 301 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 3: let's admit this was rolled out pretty hastily. There were 302 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 3: a lot of issues, you know, the confirmation of this 303 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 3: lab leak. There, I got to meet so many amazing 304 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 3: people who were calling some of this stuff out pretty 305 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: early on. You know, people that put their reputations on 306 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 3: the line to talk about this issue. They got fired, 307 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: they've getten removed from you know, certifications, cardiologists and folks 308 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 3: that I've reached out all around the state and. 309 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: The nation, which is amazing. 310 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 3: But to really admit or to gather the data that 311 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 3: would point out, yeah, this was a huge mess up 312 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 3: would take it takes some people down. 313 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: And I've tried to inquire with the pharmaceutical companies correct. 314 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I've been really tailor in my eye to 315 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 3: a lot of this and yeah with Pfizers, So being 316 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: in the Michigan House, I have access to a lot 317 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: of interesting people where I can get questions answers right 318 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 3: right from my constituents. And so the Pfiser government affairs folks, 319 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 3: I got the number of Kevin orr He's their government 320 00:14:42,080 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: affairs person in this region, and I was on a 321 00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 3: zoom with a bunch of them, and that they were saying, 322 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 3: we'll get you any answer you want. You know, vaccine injury, 323 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: the way the product is created and things along those lines. 324 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 3: And so after the Project fairtas video dropped about Jordan 325 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,720 Speaker 3: Walker and he was talking about gain of function research 326 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 3: and how they're doing some Frankenstein science there, just asked, 327 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 3: did this guy actually work for you? So I called 328 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 3: him up. I left him a voicemail and then he 329 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: blocks me and he blocked me and then they have 330 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: they send us an email saying that get us any 331 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 3: answer they want to my office, and so we inquired 332 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 3: to them to say, hey, are you going to still 333 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: answer this? They said they're compiling the answers and they 334 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: this has been since February. So he blocked my phone 335 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: number and then hasn't responded to my office's inquiry. So 336 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,359 Speaker 3: it's like these people are that powerful that they don't seriously. 337 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking about going on a year now, 338 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: you haven't heard back from them. And the fact that 339 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: he could he could block a state representative who is inquiring, 340 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: and what does that mean? That really means that they 341 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 1: believe they are above the law, that they do not 342 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: answer to anyone. 343 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely, And that's where that's how I've gotten really 344 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 3: energized around this. And again, it takes a lot of 345 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 3: a coalition of people to stand up against some of 346 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: these folks and to call him out because they just 347 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 3: don't care. Like that's what that's what real power or 348 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 3: does is just they just don't care. 349 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: That's exactly right. And I think that you are in 350 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: an interesting position in Michigan now because you were the 351 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: majority party, you are now the minority party. These are 352 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: the people who don't want you to know the people 353 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: that are in power now. I mean, they are defenders 354 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: of the pharmaceutical companies, and I don't know if that's 355 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: a financial decision that they make. I don't know why 356 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: they are so adamant that they don't want to press 357 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: for the research, because really, even if something didn't happen 358 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: to you, why don't you want to have the same 359 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: information that every other vaccine has coming out, all of 360 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,000 Speaker 1: the other data is released. Why didn't you say, well, 361 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: wait a minute, if we've had some questions, we should 362 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: have all all of this information released. But the majority 363 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: party in Michigan is not pushing for that. Have they 364 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: been helpful to you at all? 365 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 2: Well, you're talking about science there, and you know, yeah, 366 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 2: narrative is. 367 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: The science, right, So we're talking about the science that 368 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: we don't ask those types of questions or inquired there. 369 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 2: Such a good Yeah, So I do think. 370 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 3: So they passed some legislation to remove liabilities from pharmaceutical companies. 371 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 3: But so I think that they have a lot of constituents. 372 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 3: I'm positive they have a lot of constituents that are 373 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:13,639 Speaker 3: reaching out. I know some of them. They've they've reached 374 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 3: out to me and said, hey, my rep is this, 375 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 3: and I'm like, we'll talk to them, share your story 376 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 3: of your vaccine injury, and you know, all around the state. 377 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 3: And so they passed some legislation that removes liabilities, but 378 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 3: not around the COVID. 379 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: Shots, you know. 380 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 3: So there was a federal law two thousand and five, 381 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 3: I think it was put into place that allowed this 382 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: immunity for Pfizer and Maderna to be able to use 383 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 3: their environmental drug and have no ramifications. And so there's 384 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 3: a fund that they'll point you to saying, hey, the 385 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: government has a fund for a vaccine injury and that's 386 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 3: through THEIRS. And you know that people aren't getting responses 387 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,360 Speaker 3: from that at all either. So more people are talking 388 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,919 Speaker 3: about this because most people know someone that was injured, 389 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: or they've been injured themselves, or they're starting to actually 390 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: ask questions. And the thing that I saw that really 391 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 3: got me motivated again is when you ask a question 392 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 3: and people just completely shut it down. And even the 393 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,639 Speaker 3: folks at male clinic when I was there, They're like, 394 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 3: we have no idea. They did all these blood tests, 395 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 3: I have no underlying conditions. They're like, you're a unicorn case. 396 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 3: And I'm like, well, now could it be the vaccine? 397 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: Then they're like, putting right, couldn't be for the heart 398 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 3: attack because my card is yes. But they say, because 399 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 3: it was months after the heart attack, couldn't have been 400 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 3: the vaccine. And I'm like, man, that's just that's beyond me, 401 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 3: because like, this is a novel mRNA platform hasn't been 402 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: used before, but people are certain that it isn't causing 403 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 3: these adverse reactions. That's just that raises red flags. And 404 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 3: I think the average American just is kind of fed 405 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 3: up about that because you can't even hide behind those 406 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: answers anymore. 407 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,040 Speaker 1: Well, it used to be I would walk into my 408 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 1: doctor's office and they would really be pushing the COVID 409 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:53,159 Speaker 1: vaccine and I was just there a week ago, and 410 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just like they know who 411 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: I am and they're like, we're not even to push, 412 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: you know. But she held up the and she was like, okay, 413 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: so you are eligible for a COVID vaccine. And I 414 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: just looked at her and she's like, I'm going to 415 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: set this here. So I think that she just was like, yeah, 416 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: she's not going to do it. But the same thing 417 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: with the pediatricians. I mean, my pediatrician will say she 418 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: at the at the beginning, she was adamant, like, they 419 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 1: have to have the vaccine, they have to have it, 420 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: they have to have it. And I was like, we 421 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: went through in great detail, tell me, why, tell me 422 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: why you think And I never got the girls vaccinated 423 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: because I could not see that first of all, would 424 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: prevent COVID and secondly that they needed to prevent COVID 425 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: more that they needed to take another risk to prevent 426 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: that from happening. And I think if you look at 427 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: what the Texas Attorney General is doing right now, is 428 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: you know his workaround is well, hey, you told us 429 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: that this would prevent COVID. You lied, your advertising lied. 430 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is that in the United States, 431 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: and this is something that we've talked about a lot, 432 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,680 Speaker 1: is that these pharmaceutical companies can advertise directly to you, 433 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: and it is very manipulative advertising. I mean, the COVID 434 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: vaccine advertising was like shame advertising. You have to protect 435 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: your neighbors, never saying you actually can get COVID and 436 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: likely will get COVID if you take this that, as 437 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: you pointed out, as a shot and not a vaccine. 438 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then you see some of these European countries, 439 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: they have so many excess shots, they're throwing them away 440 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: and they're dumping them and billions. 441 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: And they didn't and they also said, we're actually going 442 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: to stop telling young men to take this vaccine, which 443 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: I think is also interesting because European countries have come 444 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,240 Speaker 1: to the conclusion that this is dangerous. You case in 445 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: point are a situation that they would say, well, this 446 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: shouldn't happen. They've stopped asking young men to take the vaccine. 447 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:49,360 Speaker 1: But in the United States that has not stopped happening. 448 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 3: Why because I think they'd have to admit mistake, right, 449 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 3: And that's the outlandish part about this. And so even 450 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 3: so the CDC and medl clinic and all these websites 451 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,919 Speaker 3: they have can cause my alecarditis, and you can have 452 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 3: these adverse reactions in rare circumstances. Well, what are we 453 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 3: doing for these rare circumstances in the first place? If 454 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 3: they are rare, what are we doing for them? And 455 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 3: I just there are crickets. 456 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: I just and is. 457 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: That worth that, the supposed protection that you're getting. And 458 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 1: I say supposed protection because I have had friends who've 459 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: gotten the vaccine and just weeks later had COVID and 460 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 1: I know that they were saying, well, at the beginning, 461 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: this is really reducing the symptoms. But now, I mean, 462 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: my daughter had COVID a few weeks ago, and the 463 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: only reason I knew she had COVID was because her 464 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:41,680 Speaker 1: friend called us and said, hey, we have COVID in 465 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: our house, just to let you know. We tested her. 466 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: She had a sore throat. 467 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 3: That was it. 468 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 1: That was all. 469 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:47,399 Speaker 3: You know. 470 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,640 Speaker 1: This is like, why would I give her a vaccine 471 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: that I don't know what the effects are going to 472 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,640 Speaker 1: be because she might get a sore throat, And yet 473 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: it's still being pushed on. 474 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 2: Us, no doubt. 475 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: And that's why I think there's an emphasis than on 476 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: our rights as well, and there's a revival, So in 477 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: a way, I think there's a silver lining because enough 478 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,679 Speaker 3: people are beginning to wake up, realize how important the 479 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 3: First Amendment is and being able to speak freely, because 480 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 3: now you've got all these different folks being censored. 481 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 2: You got like I get shadowbanned on. 482 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 3: Facebook for various reasons just talking about these issues. And 483 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 3: now you know, in a good way, people are starting 484 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 3: to realize Whoa's that's pretty problematic that all these folks 485 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: are rushing to the aid of big pharma. I can't 486 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 3: believe how some of my constituents will come at me 487 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 3: and they have the back of Pfizer and all these 488 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 3: billionaires since win, are you just a shill for big pharma? 489 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 2: Like especially these folks in the left. You used to 490 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 2: be rage against the machine. Now it's like, hey, let's 491 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 2: do what we're told. 492 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: Just that's what I mean about companies being too able 493 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: to advertise to you, because advertising is just getting into 494 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,959 Speaker 1: someone's mind. I mean, if we are being honest, marketers 495 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: are brainwashers, right. They try to make you believe this 496 00:22:58,080 --> 00:22:59,639 Speaker 1: is the best product. You need to have it, you 497 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: need to change what you're doing, go out and buy this. 498 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: And that's their geniuses at this. This is what they 499 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: do in other countries you are not allowed to advertise pharmaceuticals. Yeah, 500 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: doesn't that seem doesn't that seem like? Man, if if 501 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 1: you weren't advertising, a lot fewer people would be going, Oh, 502 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: you've got to get this. 503 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, without a doubt, And you hit the nail 504 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: on the head. 505 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 3: And that's why, you know, my prayer and my hope, 506 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 3: especially with regard to civics and active citizenship, is enough 507 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 3: people are starting to come out of the woodwork and 508 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 3: talk about this, especially folks that are very competent, and 509 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 3: they're able to start asking questions. And then when they 510 00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 3: ask those questions and they get some of these shoddy answers, 511 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: it starts to build that energy up again. And that's 512 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 3: key in all of this, and we're seeing an outpouring 513 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 3: of that all around the nation. 514 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 515 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: a Tutor Dixon podcast. So there's a lot more that 516 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about. We just have 517 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 1: a few more minutes left. But before I do let 518 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 1: you go, I want to go through for a little bit. 519 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: You've talked about reducing the time the legislature is in session, 520 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: and right now we have the majority party. They ended 521 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: session early, so they obviously think that they don't need 522 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: to be in session for as long as they had 523 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: been historically. That can save taxpayer dollars if we were 524 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: to go to a part time legislature. I think it 525 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,679 Speaker 1: also is key for people to think about if you 526 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: live in a state where you have a full time legislature, 527 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,439 Speaker 1: you're like, oh, my goodness, how could we ever go 528 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: to a part time But do you need somebody that 529 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: is constantly introducing new laws and new bills and passing 530 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: new laws constantly? And I would argue that there's a 531 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: reason you can call a special session if you are 532 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,400 Speaker 1: the governor and you have an urgent issue that needs 533 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: to be looked at. But look at the bills that 534 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: we are constantly passing in Michigan. Is this necessary? 535 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 2: No? You really? 536 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 3: I think you highlight a great point because we just 537 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 3: established and showed that we can get a lot of 538 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 3: work done. I voted no on the vast majority of 539 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 3: this work, which wasn't really made by level. 540 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: But it wasn't made by legislators. It was made by lobbyists. 541 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 3: And then the legislators are given their bill and they 542 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 3: walk around with their pin and like, yes, I get 543 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 3: my public act and you know, great, I put up 544 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,680 Speaker 3: my press release, I fixed the world. And yeah, you 545 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: point out there is very important because the less time, 546 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 3: especially with Proposal one, it allows representatives in the House 547 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 3: to be their twelve years max. And so there's more 548 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 3: stability in the House. What we saw was six years, 549 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 3: you get their first term, two years you learn in 550 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 3: the ropes, second term you want to go to leadership, 551 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 3: third term, try to be speaker, and then you're turned 552 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 3: out and all the institutional knowledge that you learn goes 553 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 3: with you. So the House was just kind of a 554 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 3: revolving door of people leaving. With twelve years, it provides 555 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 3: more stability there. So you see all these bills. You know, 556 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 3: all the lobbyists that are pushing the bills, you've seen 557 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 3: them before. You probably know how you're going to vote 558 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 3: or speak out against them or try to change them. 559 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 3: And it allows then less time to actually be in lancing. 560 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 3: And so they just passed a whole bunch of mediocre, 561 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 3: just bare minimum transparency laws as well that went along 562 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: with this Proposal one. That you've got prior speakers and 563 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 3: there were Republican ones that did some shady stuff back 564 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 3: in the day. 565 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: Lee Chaffield. 566 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 3: I opposed that guy tooth and nail was doing some really, 567 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: really terrible things, and we didn't pass any ethics reform 568 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 3: or transparency laws that would kind of shed a light 569 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: on what this guy was doing. And people wanted to 570 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 3: be like him and they still. 571 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: Can't, so because it was a very lavish lifestyle that 572 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: he lived. I mean, if we are being honest about, 573 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: like you said, on both sides, there's a lot of corruption. 574 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: I think Michigan has a unusually high amount. 575 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's partly due to a full time legislature 576 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 3: because and this is the thing that kind of bothers me, 577 00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,640 Speaker 3: is I write all my own speeches. I think dialogue 578 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 3: and debate on the floor is key. We're fighting to 579 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 3: even be allowed to have debates on the Floor's speeches. 580 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 3: I'm like allowed to give one speech now, you know, 581 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 3: per session day. But most people just want to go 582 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 3: have dinner, get their stakes and stuff and free drinks. 583 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 3: It's like our job, you know. I'm okay being there 584 00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 3: till two am voting because then it's less time to 585 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 3: go out and get your vote taken for a bowl 586 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 3: of stewp or whatever type of Porterhouse steak you'd like 587 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 3: like the more time people spend there, the more time 588 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,440 Speaker 3: that they are going to be delving into that culture 589 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 3: and then also being becoming compromised because a guy like Lee, 590 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: what I saw, we're going to do a motion to 591 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: vacate on him when he wasn't opposing the governor's orders, 592 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 3: because that guy was compromised. 593 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: If she was interested on the. 594 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,400 Speaker 3: Executive yeah, the lockdown orders and the executive orders, Whimer's, 595 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 3: he would have gotten, you know, highlighted as all the 596 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 3: bad things. So he didn't want to file a lawsuit 597 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 3: to overturn those orders. So we were going to remove 598 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 3: him as speaker so we could do that. There were 599 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: twelve of us. That was my first term, and this 600 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 3: guy was that compromised. And that's what a lot of 601 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 3: the lobby corp wants is they want people who are 602 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 3: compromised and insecure, because then they can bend them to 603 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 3: vote for whatever type of corporate wealth, whatever nonsense that 604 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 3: they want to pass. And there's got to be a 605 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 3: shift in the I guess the balance of power there 606 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 3: in Lansing, and I think there's an opportunity and there's 607 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 3: a bipartisan press for a lot of these ethics reforms, 608 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 3: maybe part time legislature because something has to happen and 609 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,679 Speaker 3: people are disillusioned with their state legislators and that's it. 610 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: You know. 611 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: As I was running, I kept hearing all these stories 612 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 1: of there was a very close relationship there with the 613 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: governor and there was question as to exactly what the 614 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: situation was that was going on there. I just think that, 615 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: you know, we come off of this story that we're 616 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: hearing out of the Senate in the US Senate in Washington, 617 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 1: d C. And I'm listening to the news this morning 618 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: and they're like, I called somebody and said, how could 619 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: this be? And they said, you probably don't want to 620 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: know what goes on in our government buildings in Washington, 621 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: D C. And I got to tell you, when I 622 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 1: first went to Lansing, it's like everybody's partying, everybody's talking 623 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: about who they're going home with. I mean, when did 624 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,440 Speaker 1: government become a place of honor and corruption instead of 625 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: a place that was an honorable place to go and 626 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: a position that you held because you were a respectable person. 627 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: And I respect exactly what you're saying. I think that 628 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: like for me, when I would go campaigning, everybody would 629 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: joke that when the day was done, I didn't go out. 630 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: I went back to my room and got ready for 631 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 1: the next day if we were out of town. But 632 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: that's how I've been my entire business career. So to 633 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,400 Speaker 1: me to go and see that this is how the 634 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: people that represent my area behave that they're constantly going 635 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: out on both sides of the aisle and fighting in 636 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: the chamber and then going out and drinking together in 637 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:43,360 Speaker 1: the evening, and it's it's kind of shocking. I mean, 638 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: I'm not opposed to people being friends and getting together, 639 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 1: but you're making a point that they're using funds, they're 640 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 1: being schmoozed, they're being manipulated, and your vote for that 641 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: person is being influenced by money across the state. 642 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: Well, you know, I like that. 643 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 3: And just to reemphasize too, is that, you know, because 644 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: again I'm perfectly fine going out having an old fashioned 645 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 3: hanging out with buddies, having really intense conversations. Do that 646 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,600 Speaker 3: all the time with some of my college and you know, 647 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 3: I relish those times when I do stay in Lansing 648 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: now to do that and to talk about whatever type 649 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: of philosophy and debate debate policy. So that's that's definitely 650 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,479 Speaker 3: an element. What I'm kind of highlighting is that the 651 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 3: lobby core would let, they'd let They want individuals compromised 652 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 3: in compromising situations, so they make mistakes. And that's something 653 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 3: that happened immensely with Lee, to the point that they 654 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 3: wanted to exalt him and others like him because they're compromised. 655 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: All they have to say is, hey, well, you know, 656 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 3: remember that one time, or you know, we've got this photo, 657 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 3: whatever type of thing. When legislators fall into that especially, 658 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,480 Speaker 3: and I'll pick on believers. I'm a believer, and a 659 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 3: lot of believers want to hide their sin, and they 660 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 3: are easily compromised because they're the most one willing to say, hey, 661 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 3: I'm shiny, squeaky clean, haven't done anything wrong. And those 662 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,640 Speaker 3: are the individuals that we need to to raise an 663 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 3: eyebrow to sometimes, because if you have no issue, you 664 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 3: apologize for nothing, you've done nothing wrong, then you probably 665 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: are our compromised individuals. 666 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: So, I mean, that's a conversation that we've had quite 667 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 1: a bit recently, just the idea that believers the church 668 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: is a place for sick people, not perfect people. And 669 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: I can see that I mean, it is very hard, 670 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: and I think that your solution of reducing the time 671 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: there is really a perfect I mean, if you look 672 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: at Texas what they meet every two years, and they 673 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: meet for like six months, why do we need to 674 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: have a full time legislature? So I agree with you. 675 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: There's so much more. Like I said, there's so much 676 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,560 Speaker 1: more that I want to get into with you. So 677 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: I'd love to have you back and we can talk 678 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: more about this. But thank you so much for sharing 679 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: your story, because I think a lot of people have 680 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: felt like, man, I think something happened to me and 681 00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: they're not sure. And it's good for folks to hear 682 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: that you were brave and you went out there and 683 00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: you're talking about it. 684 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, tracking down answers to lot of that, because yeah, 685 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 3: it's pressing when you're like, well, what could this have been? 686 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 2: And this is impacting my life? 687 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 3: So yeah, I have a lot of constituents that I 688 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 3: get to fellowship with now, a lot of people all 689 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 3: around the state, And yeah, if anyone's watching this and 690 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 3: feels that way, please reach out to I. Fellowshiping around 691 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 3: that issue, especially the injuries and getting shrugged to the 692 00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: side doesn't feel good. But there are a lot of 693 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 3: people that I've been in that same boat. And yeah, 694 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,800 Speaker 3: I appreciate you having me on and taking the time 695 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 3: to love to follow up with you. 696 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 2: Grateful for all the work that you do. 697 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: Well, Thank you, I appreciate it. Representative Brad Podcat from 698 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,320 Speaker 1: here in Michigan. Thank you so much for coming on, 699 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: and thank you all for joining us on the Tutor 700 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: Dixon Podcast. 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