WEBVTT - The Plüschow Maneuver with Billy Magnussen

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<v Speaker 1>This is as great as Escapes, a show bringing you

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<v Speaker 1>the wildest true escape stories of all time. I'm Attura

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<v Speaker 1>Castro and I'm here with the incredibly talented actor with

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<v Speaker 1>the voice of an absolute angel, Billy Magnuson. Guys, what

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<v Speaker 1>a treat we have for you today. We have the one,

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<v Speaker 1>the only Billy Magnusse. So, brother, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for doing this. I really appreciate it. You and Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>right now building a house from from from the ground up, by.

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<v Speaker 2>Yourself, renovating, renovating.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, you're building a house by yourself because

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<v Speaker 1>you're impressively fun.

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<v Speaker 3>This admitted with my brothers. Actually it's actually with my

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<v Speaker 3>brothers and my dad. You know, grew up in a

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<v Speaker 3>carpentry shop.

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<v Speaker 1>So are you renovating a house you grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>or a house you got in Georgia?

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<v Speaker 2>No, house I got in Georgia. It's like close to

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<v Speaker 2>my parents' place.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, when I'm not shooting a movie with

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<v Speaker 3>you co starring next to you, you know, I'm building houses.

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<v Speaker 1>Work in construction, that's all. You're doing a movie or

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<v Speaker 1>you're building a house. That's what building Magison does.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, that's it. What else is there to do?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have something that you considered to be your

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<v Speaker 1>greatest escape?

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<v Speaker 3>Brother, My biggest real escape was like probably getting away

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<v Speaker 3>from a life I didn't want to live. I would say, like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm emotionally and deep. We came from the generation a

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<v Speaker 3>little bit before social media and shit like that, and

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<v Speaker 3>that that comparison thing that it causes, or at least

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<v Speaker 3>it caused me to do fucking crushed me me and

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<v Speaker 3>like detox from that and not do that shit. It's

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<v Speaker 3>been so helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Try try having the only other well known Watermellon actor

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<v Speaker 1>be Oscar Isaac. I mean every time every time I

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<v Speaker 1>did something even semi cool, my friends would send me

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<v Speaker 1>like the cover of a GQ with like an Oscar eyesagon,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like, yep, got it, got it, got it.

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<v Speaker 3>There was something about my own trust and like caring

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<v Speaker 3>for myself, I stop doing and to like move on,

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<v Speaker 3>move past that and escape that that black hole of it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's been the best escape in my life to enjoy life.

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<v Speaker 1>Again. Thank you for being so open with us, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever get faced with the like like unsmoking,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you have to complain about? Not from your

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<v Speaker 1>family but from other people sometimes Yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 2>No, definitely from my family.

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<v Speaker 3>But again I come from the majority of dudes that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's my mom and then like four guys

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<v Speaker 3>and that sounds weird.

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<v Speaker 2>It's me and my brothers, you know, a bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>dudes that I just.

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<v Speaker 1>Got some guys that I just build some house.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but you know, David was just get your head

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<v Speaker 3>out of your ass and put yourself up, like what

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<v Speaker 3>do you got. Look, it's fucking beautiful today when you

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<v Speaker 3>get outside. It was tough love, okay. Escape was just yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>saying goodbye to that that life that wasn't working anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>or that mindset.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, brother, listen, thank you so much for opening up

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Are you ready for me to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>an insane escape? Brother?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's rock and roll. So our story begins with

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<v Speaker 1>a man named Gunta Pluschkau. He was this German naval

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<v Speaker 1>officer in the early nineteen hundreds, and honestly, his life

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<v Speaker 1>was like a whole series of buck wild escapes. Eventually

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<v Speaker 1>he would even become one of the most famous prisoners

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<v Speaker 1>of World War One. We're going to start in the

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<v Speaker 1>year before the war started, when Gunta was assigned to

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<v Speaker 1>a brand new wing of the German military, the Air Force.

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<v Speaker 1>So of course this was when they were first starting

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<v Speaker 1>to experiment with flying. And it turns out the Gunta

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<v Speaker 1>was an absolute prodigy. So at the beginning of nineteen fourteen,

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<v Speaker 1>Gunter's story really took off. Because it's hard to say

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<v Speaker 1>this to believe, Gunter says it only took him three

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<v Speaker 1>days to learn how to fly. He was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just spent up in the air

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<v Speaker 1>and I stayed there like boom came down. It's very simple.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually feel like flying is probably very like second

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<v Speaker 3>act or like riding a bike. Weirdly, I remember doing

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<v Speaker 3>a hanglighting thing and I was like, this makes so much.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like the mechanics of it really actually works in

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<v Speaker 3>my head.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're in this nothing.

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<v Speaker 3>Kind of contraption, you know, it's just right the wind,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was just like this seems so simple.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you were simple what you're just feeling what the

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<v Speaker 1>air wanted to do, and you're just kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is how I can manipulate it, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you just it's like surfing or something, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>like where you have to or snowboarding or skiing. You

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<v Speaker 3>could just feel where the momentum wants to take you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like little dancing in the air. It makes sense

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<v Speaker 3>to me, so listen.

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<v Speaker 1>So the German place of that time, they were called doves,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were fucking janky as hell, right, and they

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<v Speaker 1>required the pilot to do a lot of pulling on

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<v Speaker 1>wires and levers to make the wingspend. But Gunter says

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<v Speaker 1>that not only could he do it after just three days,

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<v Speaker 1>but he actually passed his flying exam on day five.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have any prodigy level skills, Billy? Were you

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<v Speaker 1>immediately proficient at that uh what they called the goat

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<v Speaker 1>carcass throwing race?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, coke peru co Yeah, no, definitely, not definitely. Not

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<v Speaker 2>that that was like showing up.

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<v Speaker 3>That was like we were the Jamaican Bob sled team

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<v Speaker 3>showing up to like, you know, play coke peru. Coke

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<v Speaker 3>preau is a game basically during the World Nomad Games.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like one of the biggest sports in the stands.

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<v Speaker 3>And that was part of the first ever American coke

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<v Speaker 3>carew team, which is basically hockey like the same rules

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<v Speaker 3>as hockey, but you're on horseback and the balls of

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<v Speaker 3>dead goat carcass and you have to lean off the

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<v Speaker 3>horse to the ground, pick up the dead goat carcass

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<v Speaker 3>and throw it in the other team's goal.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was the most aggressive thing I've ever done

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<v Speaker 2>in my life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, is it is it shaped as a

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<v Speaker 1>ball or is it just literally like right.

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<v Speaker 3>Before, right before the game, cut off the head and

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<v Speaker 3>cut off at the elbows and knees. Oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 3>and blood everything, Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>But then the winner gets to eat it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's fucking insane.

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<v Speaker 2>That is insane.

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<v Speaker 1>The German Air Force was so impressed with Gunta's prodigious

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<v Speaker 1>skills that they wanted to immediately ship him off to

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<v Speaker 1>the far reaches of the Empire. But Gunta must have

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<v Speaker 1>felt that he wasn't actually ready, so he made a

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<v Speaker 1>request before they sent him away. He asked for one

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<v Speaker 1>more long training flight across Germany, but this time joined

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<v Speaker 1>by a military observer. Yeah, if you're belief you're the

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<v Speaker 1>observer guy, you're gonna take this fucking flight with a

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<v Speaker 1>hotch a young pilot. I'd be like, fuck, no, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm busy avoiding syphilis and I don't want to die.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, it's like nineteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, I just wanted my schnitzel and some beer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got polio. Dude, I can't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I would do it though I'm that kind

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<v Speaker 2>of guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Though you would, you would definitely do it.

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<v Speaker 3>I like things in my life always show up, Like

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<v Speaker 3>if it shows up in front of me, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>this is the moment I'm doing.

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<v Speaker 1>That now, you know. It's yeah, yeah, It's like.

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<v Speaker 2>Eating bugs for the first time in like Highland.

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<v Speaker 3>It just like shows up to you and you're like, eh, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm doing this here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a bugget to know, you know. I find that

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<v Speaker 1>with like weird phobias that i have, like afraid of

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<v Speaker 1>heights or whatever the fuck. But even though I'm afraid

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<v Speaker 1>of heights, I've cliff dived and I've skydived, and I've

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because I'm more afraid of missing out on

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<v Speaker 1>the experience than i am up my petty little fears,

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<v Speaker 1>if that makes any sense exactly, Dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I could not agree with you more. Would you ever

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<v Speaker 2>actually get your skydiving license?

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<v Speaker 1>My girlfriend at the time didn't fucking know that I

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<v Speaker 1>was afraid of heights, and she got me a skydiving

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<v Speaker 1>thing for my birthday. But my birthday is in November,

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<v Speaker 1>and in New York you can't jump until June. So

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<v Speaker 1>I had about seven eight months to think about this

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<v Speaker 1>fucking thing, and I was like, I'm not gonna do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna do it. I'm not going to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Two weeks before, there was an accident for a tandem

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<v Speaker 1>skydiving thing where the parents who didn't fully deploy and

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<v Speaker 1>so the dude landing on his client, and Vaporice is

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<v Speaker 1>client and he kind of survived, all fucked up, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's it. That's it. I'm not doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then my writing partner, who is at the time

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<v Speaker 1>who is the softest dude I've ever met, he was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>scot of yeah, I've been like four times. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>there's no fucking world in which this market has gone

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<v Speaker 1>and I have not gone. Anyway, we go up there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the whole story about how I finally get up

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<v Speaker 1>there and they're like, okay, put your foot outside and

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<v Speaker 1>you count to three and then we'll jump. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, cool, one faint and I'm like I'm already

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<v Speaker 1>fucking fine. I'm like, wait, what it was like you

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<v Speaker 1>can see the video. It's just like I just like

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<v Speaker 1>not off for like a second. And the first fucking

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<v Speaker 1>thing is have you skydived few times?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So the first thing is your brain doesn't know

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<v Speaker 1>what the hell is going on, right, And then so

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<v Speaker 1>it's sort of kind of a sensor you're overloud. And

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<v Speaker 1>the second one is like, oh my god, I'm flying

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<v Speaker 1>through the air like a fucking bird. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>third one is like, please deploy, please deploy, please deploy.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think that everybody should do it at least

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<v Speaker 1>once in their life.

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<v Speaker 3>What the scariest. The scariest part was the drive to

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<v Speaker 3>the airport for me. Yeah, yeah, but like every time

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<v Speaker 3>I've gone, I find it so peaceful, weirdly relaxing and

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<v Speaker 3>like just nothing else in the world matters.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't feel like that that what's called the roller

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<v Speaker 1>coaster pole. It just feels like floating through the air. Yeah. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to shout out to our sponsors Tandem

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<v Speaker 1>Tandem Skydivings off Phillong Island. What if we're just this

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<v Speaker 1>is just a paid partnership I fucking for like Airlines,

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<v Speaker 1>German Airlines and Cark is throwing so Gunter got this

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<v Speaker 1>request approved right of somebody coming with him, but that

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<v Speaker 1>was something that everybody was going to regret because just

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<v Speaker 1>about everything that could go wrong went wrong. So at

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<v Speaker 1>first they took off in a dense fog and Gunta

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't see and flew thank you. Is that a fog sound? Yeah, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a plain sound.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure that's a lawnmower.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot so he was. He realized that he

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<v Speaker 1>was cutting the grass, and he flew purely by compass

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<v Speaker 1>right because he couldn't see anything. And while the military

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<v Speaker 1>observer guy had this his life flashing before his eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the first time flying. It was the guy's

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<v Speaker 1>first time flying, and he was completely freaked out. It

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<v Speaker 1>forced them to land in the field and they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>even leave until local farmers cut down trees to open

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<v Speaker 1>up a runway. Oh so what are you doing? Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>sending somebody who hasn't flown to supervise a flight, right? Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what would they what would how would they know what

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<v Speaker 1>to look for?

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<v Speaker 2>We're still up in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, it's good. Yeah, is flying big fighting boy? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>So wait, so they're chilling in this town till they

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<v Speaker 3>cut down the trees to make over.

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<v Speaker 1>They had to land in a field and they couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>take off again until farmers came out and cut some

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<v Speaker 1>of the grass and vines and shit so that they

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<v Speaker 1>could take off again.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like awesome, See what happens to humanity like that,

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<v Speaker 3>where you're like, huh, you're lost, I'll help you out.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, Billy, if a fucking guy landed with a

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<v Speaker 1>plane in my garden, I'd be like, yeah, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>help you get the fuck out of my garden because

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<v Speaker 1>he's the weirdest thing I've ever seen. So I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's happened to I don't know if sweets humanity

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<v Speaker 1>or it's a it's just basically like, hey.

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<v Speaker 3>I I mean, I got I got some shit, I

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<v Speaker 3>gotta get done.

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<v Speaker 2>Get out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, so let's get get you out. So when

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<v Speaker 1>Gunter finally did launch again, another fog rolled in and

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<v Speaker 1>as they flew going to realize that somehow that forced

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<v Speaker 1>landing had split the fuel tank and then the gas

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<v Speaker 1>was leaking out of the plane right, So they ran

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<v Speaker 1>out of fuel just as they reached their destination. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was bad enough, but then on the way back.

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<v Speaker 1>Why are they fucking plying back?

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<v Speaker 2>Same plane?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, overlords, it's got to be a different plane, right.

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<v Speaker 1>Germany had like four planes at the time.

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<v Speaker 5>So this was they just passed it out, ok, I

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<v Speaker 5>got so Gunter says that the only reason that he

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<v Speaker 5>tried taking off again was because he didn't know any

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<v Speaker 5>better at the time, and there was truly a shitty call.

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<v Speaker 1>After a little while, he realized that the storm was

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<v Speaker 1>too strong and he couldn't control the plane, so he

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<v Speaker 1>tried to dive down and land in another field. I

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<v Speaker 1>love the farmers just looking at him.

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<v Speaker 4>And like, nine, your set out best.

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<v Speaker 1>And I imagine military observer right, like he's just confessing

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<v Speaker 1>to shit in case this is the last time.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like, I've never like see you on the farm.

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<v Speaker 4>I said I did, but I didn't. It smucksy and

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<v Speaker 4>it makes me look fat, you know, and it's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 4>come down, I'm not gonna die.

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<v Speaker 1>So they came in for the landing, but at last

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<v Speaker 1>minute the wind picked up and a gus slammed the

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<v Speaker 1>plane and flipped it upside down just to see near

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. The plane slammed into the field and smashed

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<v Speaker 1>forward with the wind and rain slashing them. The flip

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<v Speaker 1>plane cut a trench into the turf before crashing a

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<v Speaker 1>to a halt against a high mound. Not the best

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<v Speaker 1>first day for our military observer. Guy Gudur and his

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<v Speaker 1>passenger were trapped onto the plane as the storm ranged

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<v Speaker 1>on overhead, and as he caught his breath he realized

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<v Speaker 1>he was still alive. Right, Gunter felt hot gasoline start

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<v Speaker 1>pouring down his face. The observer is probably like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm observing some fuel getting into your mouth, and there's

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't no need to observe everything here. This

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<v Speaker 1>guy was fucking lucky. So some nearby farmers again had

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<v Speaker 1>actually seen the plane go down. They rushed to the site.

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<v Speaker 1>They couldn't lift the plane, so they dug a tunnel

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<v Speaker 1>underneath it so they could pull out the trapman, What

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<v Speaker 1>has happened to humanity, Billy Magdison? Were people digging tunnels

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<v Speaker 1>for us these days? Nay, they don't exist. So Gunta

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<v Speaker 1>says that at that moment he realized that the mound

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<v Speaker 1>they had crashed the plane into was actually a giant

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<v Speaker 1>pile of manure. Fantastic, Yeah, what's the shitty? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>ever had a bad crash.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh yeah, yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Not like you're like, legally I cannot give your details

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<v Speaker 1>on it. I pleaded no.

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<v Speaker 2>Contest, and I've always been lucky. Let's just say that

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<v Speaker 2>of like getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of stuff, Like I've been flown from a bike

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<v Speaker 3>and somehow landed like basically on all fours.

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<v Speaker 1>You're landing like a gymnastic, like say, just like doing

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<v Speaker 1>the hoods in the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Like wow, falling rock climbing was the worst.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably what happened rock climbing, you almost died.

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<v Speaker 3>I felt like I felt like maybe fifty feet no,

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<v Speaker 3>and like it was but luckily we were over water

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like there was this step weirdly, so

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<v Speaker 3>I fell.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like thirty something feet halfway down, and when.

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<v Speaker 3>I hit my back, I kicked off away from the

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<v Speaker 3>wall because there was rocks and like I kicked off

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<v Speaker 3>far enough.

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<v Speaker 2>To land in water, and so what Yeah, we out.

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<v Speaker 3>The worst part wasn't the like my back and the

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<v Speaker 3>scars there from all that. It was the poison oak

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<v Speaker 3>that got into my bloodstream.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I was like a scab for the next.

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<v Speaker 1>Two weeks ill you're like, what if you said like

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<v Speaker 1>the worst part of it was just you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was my clothes got wet. That's really I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>well you really love your clothes. Well I'm glad you're alive. Brother,

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<v Speaker 1>So Gunter He says that the play was smashed up

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<v Speaker 1>into a tangle of wood, fabric and wire, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was fully broken apart in three places, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>completely embedded in soggy shit. Right, sorry, soggy poo poo.

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<v Speaker 1>Somehow going to escape with his life, and so did

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<v Speaker 1>his passenger. He had Billy magnuson. Look, so this is

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<v Speaker 1>his escape number one. Okay, okay, I really hope that

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<v Speaker 1>have is every time I name his escapes. Can I

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<v Speaker 1>give that one more time? Yes? Thank you. So in

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<v Speaker 1>this grace, both men took a train back to Gunter's

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<v Speaker 1>navy base to report. Their fellow officers were like, how

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<v Speaker 1>to go you know, and they're like, please fuck off.

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<v Speaker 2>So now let's go back earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>So they landed in a field, crashed in a field,

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<v Speaker 3>and they didn't just take the train back.

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<v Speaker 2>They got back up in the air.

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<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no, no, no no. They took the train back.

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<v Speaker 1>So they both both men took a first time where

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<v Speaker 1>the no, they got back up, They got back up

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<v Speaker 1>in the plane the first time they crashed into the field. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they cut them off and they're like, okay, yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's as good boys.

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<v Speaker 3>That's just like hitchhiking a ride is like, yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>go back up. I'm just saying they could have taken

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<v Speaker 3>a train.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they could have taken a train back, but they

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<v Speaker 1>just decided not to because they were like, maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>is what flying is. You have to like crash land

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<v Speaker 1>every now and then. You know, I also loved it, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh so it must be there must be some male

0:16:01.160 --> 0:16:03.800
<v Speaker 1>ego in play in this way. He's like, I will

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<v Speaker 1>not go into the fucking train. Everybody will know we

0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.520
<v Speaker 1>fucking chrished it. And it's like, I think everybody knows already.

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<v Speaker 1>It's in the news. Somehow, despite this, the Navy still

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<v Speaker 1>thought that they should send him to China as their

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<v Speaker 1>special pilot boy or vunderkind, if you will, And somehow

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<v Speaker 1>Gunter still thought that this was a good idea. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>in his book, he ends the chapter of the crash

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<v Speaker 1>by saying, well, duty called, should you not wow? So

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<v Speaker 1>many terrible manure puns. I'm practicing for when I become

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<v Speaker 1>a farmer dad. You know, So, why did the German

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<v Speaker 1>navy send Gunta to China. Well, at the time, the

0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:51.200
<v Speaker 1>German navy had actually seized an entire city on the

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<v Speaker 1>Chinese coast in eighteen ninety seven, the city of Sin

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<v Speaker 1>Tau uhuh, named after the fantastic beer huh.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because the German Kaiser was extremely jealous of his

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<v Speaker 1>cousins who ruled Russia and England, and they were all

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<v Speaker 1>taking parts in China for themselves. So you remember when

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<v Speaker 1>that morning career across Europe at that point was like

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<v Speaker 1>a messed up family affair, you know, and they're all like,

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<v Speaker 1>they're all basically like, no I wanted it, No I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted You know. That's really how World War for the

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<v Speaker 1>First World War happened. But how would you how would

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<v Speaker 1>your family do it? Ruling a continent? What do you think?

0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Imagine your family drama, but boosted by to scale to

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<v Speaker 1>scale a global empire.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I think it would be a good time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Particular, your brothers sound like, you know, like there's conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>They're like, just get your head out of you ass, Hey, Russia,

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<v Speaker 1>just get your head out of ass. Let's go build

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<v Speaker 1>a house, guys, Let's go build some houses.

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<v Speaker 2>Build the house. Let's have a beer, enjoy ourselves.

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<v Speaker 1>So the German navy put the city under a military dictatorship.

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<v Speaker 1>So side, I wonder if it's related that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>beer named after that city, because Germans do love their

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<v Speaker 1>their brewing, don't they? To hey, overlords, is it related? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>this is when the Germans built that brewery. Oh okay, okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was right, good for me? So Wunderkin Gunta

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the navy officers who was sent to

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<v Speaker 1>China to be on the leadship of their Asian Navy squad.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, he had joined a German military

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<v Speaker 1>academy at ten years old, so this was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>his thing, right, And before he learned to fly, he

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<v Speaker 1>had already sailed around Sintau as a navy officer. In

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<v Speaker 1>that first trip, he even got himself a tattoo, a

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<v Speaker 1>dragon that stretched from his left shoulder all the way

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<v Speaker 1>to his left wrist. You got any ink I do? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't regret any of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you've seen me with my clothes off.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you? How many do you have?

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<v Speaker 2>Four? All? I wish, I wish I didn't have any

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<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>But listen, particularly like that, like early nineteen hundreds, it

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<v Speaker 1>must have been rare to get a big ass fucking

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<v Speaker 1>tattoo like that, right, I guess, but don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't like all the sailors would get tattoos all the

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<v Speaker 3>time and all that shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't associate with German navy guys. But I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you're on a boat, everything goes, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>So after his flying lessons and you know, crashing his

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<v Speaker 1>plane multiple times, Gunta was headed back to China for

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<v Speaker 1>his German overlords. He arrived in Saintao, this time with

0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:14.760
<v Speaker 1>a plane. Apparently he could fly now, and because of

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<v Speaker 1>the tattoo, people started calling him Gunta Dragonmaster, or at

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<v Speaker 1>least that's what Gunter would tell people. Do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that's even true? I love the idea of him like

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<v Speaker 1>dragon man. Yeah exactly. Yeah, Hey, hey Gunta Gunta fucking fine,

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<v Speaker 1>hey dragon master? Yeah yeah, but you're calling me, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you this quick? Dude?

0:19:37.680 --> 0:19:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, I have my I have writers in my ear.

0:19:40.960 --> 0:19:43.520
<v Speaker 1>It's Tory Smith and Alyssa just going like okay and

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<v Speaker 1>now bits bits bits bits okay, okay, thank you okay,

0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.840
<v Speaker 1>but also okay, so dragon Master he's pushing his nickname

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<v Speaker 1>on everybody. And this was July of nineteen fourteen. So

0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:03.600
<v Speaker 1>the other thing happening at the end of July nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen was that World War One was kicking off. As

0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a matter of fact, Archduke Franz Ferdinand was shot on

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<v Speaker 1>the same day that Gunta made his first flight over Sinhtau.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh coincidence, I think not? Where was he? So soon

0:20:17.600 --> 0:20:20.800
<v Speaker 1>enough Germany and Russia were scrapping. Apparently we'll talking with

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<v Speaker 1>an English girlfriend, Gunter told her that it was fine

0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Germany was fighting Russia because they would never fight England.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh how very wrong he was. So by the fall

0:20:32.800 --> 0:20:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that year, the German Sincintau were surrounded. Right, a combined

0:20:36.800 --> 0:20:39.800
<v Speaker 1>army of Japanese and English troops had the city under siege.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you expect the English to show up there?

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<v Speaker 4>Like?

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<v Speaker 1>It seemed like around that time. English would always go like, oh,

0:20:45.160 --> 0:20:47.639
<v Speaker 1>it's his sub education, yes please, I haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what's crazy is that that they they probably sailed

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<v Speaker 3>that whole way like at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, the air force wasn't that powerful, and

0:20:58.280 --> 0:21:01.160
<v Speaker 1>their navy has always been known for for being great.

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently in the attacks on the city. The Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>army was extremely careful not to damage the German brewery

0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.560
<v Speaker 1>because fucking priorities. I respect that. And in the battle,

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Gunter was the German scout, so he would fly over

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<v Speaker 1>the city and report what he saw about the Japanese

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<v Speaker 1>and English shoops, where they were camped, how many there were,

0:21:17.800 --> 0:21:20.280
<v Speaker 1>things like that. But at first the soldiers mocked him,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that while they were fighting on the ground, he

0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:25.080
<v Speaker 1>was just playing games up in the air. The truth

0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.800
<v Speaker 1>is that Gunter's information was actually pretty useful, but the

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<v Speaker 1>insult stung, so he started to beg the German engineers

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out how to make bombs so he could

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<v Speaker 1>drop them from his plane. And what did they come

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<v Speaker 1>up with. They filled four pound coffee tins with sticks

0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:42.119
<v Speaker 1>to dynamite, with nails with scrap metal. Thank you, Ben,

0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:44.879
<v Speaker 1>and Gunter started carrying them up to the air with

0:21:44.960 --> 0:21:47.800
<v Speaker 1>him and throwing them over the side. This seems fucking insane.

0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:50.600
<v Speaker 1>Can you imagine carrying a coffee tin full of dynamite

0:21:50.640 --> 0:21:53.000
<v Speaker 1>on your lap while you drive, let alone fight up

0:21:53.040 --> 0:21:57.320
<v Speaker 1>into the air. That's awesome. I was gonna say, Billy's like, well,

0:21:57.320 --> 0:21:58.920
<v Speaker 1>if it showed up at that time in my life.

0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:00.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna say it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm to it.

0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's people that drive with guns in the

0:22:04.080 --> 0:22:05.040
<v Speaker 3>cars here, man.

0:22:05.240 --> 0:22:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was different than that of my busy. I

0:22:07.200 --> 0:22:08.480
<v Speaker 1>see the point, Okay, I see the point.

0:22:08.560 --> 0:22:11.359
<v Speaker 3>And these are those biplanes, like it has two things,

0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:12.280
<v Speaker 3>like it's open.

0:22:12.080 --> 0:22:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Cockpit, the whole thing.

0:22:13.320 --> 0:22:15.320
<v Speaker 1>And that's what I imagine because that's what the Red

0:22:15.359 --> 0:22:18.320
<v Speaker 1>Baron was known for, right, like from shooting it like fighting,

0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:19.240
<v Speaker 1>fighting in the air.

0:22:19.160 --> 0:22:22.359
<v Speaker 3>When one of the the gun with the revolver comeing

0:22:22.560 --> 0:22:25.560
<v Speaker 3>or with the propeller, you know, when the gun with

0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:29.199
<v Speaker 3>the propeller. Yeah, so it was timed it would shoot

0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:31.440
<v Speaker 3>but through the spins of the blade.

0:22:32.040 --> 0:22:35.399
<v Speaker 1>That was in nineteen fifteen. That was in nineteen fifteen.

0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.639
<v Speaker 1>We were a year ahead. So okay, so let's calm

0:22:38.640 --> 0:22:40.439
<v Speaker 1>the fuck down, Billy. Okay, you're ahead of the you're

0:22:40.440 --> 0:22:43.560
<v Speaker 1>ahead of the game. You're ahead of the game. So

0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 1>unfortunately for everyone involved, the bombs were mostly duds. Right

0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:48.800
<v Speaker 1>at one point, he dropped his bomb in an English

0:22:48.840 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 1>military tent and it just like took a trampoline bounce

0:22:51.880 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 1>off the canvas. So it was really embarrassing, and then

0:22:54.160 --> 0:22:56.199
<v Speaker 1>just went into the mud, and when he would hit

0:22:56.280 --> 0:22:59.159
<v Speaker 1>Japanese ships, the bombs would also just bounce off it

0:22:59.240 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 1>without exploding, and Gunter says that all these failures made

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:06.200
<v Speaker 1>him get over the first pleasant emotion of bombing. Fucking

0:23:06.200 --> 0:23:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the pleasant emotion of bombing really sounds like a memoir

0:23:08.760 --> 0:23:11.679
<v Speaker 1>by a fucking psychopath, or how you described the beginning

0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:15.760
<v Speaker 1>of my stand up career, Oh pleasure of bombing. Actually,

0:23:15.920 --> 0:23:18.720
<v Speaker 1>to be honest, my my only foray into stand up

0:23:18.760 --> 0:23:20.960
<v Speaker 1>comedy went very well, and I decided never to touch

0:23:21.000 --> 0:23:22.760
<v Speaker 1>it again. Have you ever tried that?

0:23:23.720 --> 0:23:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely not? Have you heard? Have you heard me talk

0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:28.680
<v Speaker 2>of this podcast? And now I can do it.

0:23:29.440 --> 0:23:31.119
<v Speaker 1>You're funny, You're funny in the group. You're good. You

0:23:31.520 --> 0:23:33.760
<v Speaker 1>know what, You're great board games man, You're great at

0:23:33.840 --> 0:23:37.040
<v Speaker 1>leading board games. Okay, and don't let anybody tell you differently, buddy.

0:23:37.080 --> 0:23:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Thanks.

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 1>With Gunter doing exactly squat with the dumb bombs, the

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.040
<v Speaker 1>siege of Sintau lasted for more than a month. The

0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Germans finally surrendered the city in November and Guncher had

0:23:47.920 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>one final mission, and he was given a package of

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>secret documents and told to fly south out of the city.

0:23:53.600 --> 0:23:56.000
<v Speaker 1>He launched into the air and traveled along the Chinese coast,

0:23:56.040 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 1>flying south for as long as he could. For those

0:23:58.400 --> 0:24:04.119
<v Speaker 1>counting at home, this is Gunter's escape number two. Okay,

0:24:04.800 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>find like a chicken from the siege of Singtau and

0:24:08.119 --> 0:24:11.600
<v Speaker 1>leaving behind all that delicious, delicious beer. Now eventually going

0:24:11.640 --> 0:24:13.600
<v Speaker 1>to was forced to land, so he did his signature

0:24:13.640 --> 0:24:16.399
<v Speaker 1>maneuver where he sent his plane nose down into a

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>nice mud patch. Despite his time in Sintau, Gunter didn't

0:24:19.920 --> 0:24:22.439
<v Speaker 1>speak any Chinese, so he needed an American missionary to

0:24:22.480 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 1>help him get into Shanghai. Have you ever regretted not

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 1>learning a language, Billy?

0:24:27.320 --> 0:24:35.119
<v Speaker 3>Yes, so many great?

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I got two and a half a little bit

0:24:37.800 --> 0:24:40.480
<v Speaker 1>of French in my in my pocket, and I got

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>to what you got.

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:45.239
<v Speaker 2>I got French English in half of Spanish.

0:24:44.920 --> 0:24:49.199
<v Speaker 1>Half a Spanish. Just once you get Spanish, you automatically like,

0:24:49.280 --> 0:24:53.960
<v Speaker 1>are shoot in from the Portuguese and Italian kind of yeah.

0:24:53.920 --> 0:24:56.160
<v Speaker 2>You know, yeah, yeah, they're all romantic languages.

0:24:56.240 --> 0:25:00.720
<v Speaker 1>We're romantic guys. So after he showed up Shanghai, a

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 1>meal freighter was scheduled to travel from Shanghai to California,

0:25:03.640 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>and Gunder got on board. He decided to travel as

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>an Englishman named mcgarvin, and.

0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:11.320
<v Speaker 2>They were sure mcgarvin the dragon slayer.

0:25:11.640 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the dragon guy, the dragon slayer. So they were

0:25:14.640 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 1>sure that the Americans wouldn't be able to tell the

0:25:16.520 --> 0:25:19.040
<v Speaker 1>difference between the German accent and an English accent, so

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:22.320
<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't be in any danger, right, fucking audacity. On

0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 1>the way, Gunja made the really strange choice to tell

0:25:25.280 --> 0:25:28.920
<v Speaker 1>other passengers well everything about himself, so that included giving

0:25:28.960 --> 0:25:31.320
<v Speaker 1>away all the details of his past false identity to

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:34.359
<v Speaker 1>an American journalist on board. So when the ship docked

0:25:34.400 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>in Hawaii, the news got ahead of him right, and

0:25:37.040 --> 0:25:39.120
<v Speaker 1>by the time they landed in San Francisco in December,

0:25:39.240 --> 0:25:42.399
<v Speaker 1>newspapers around the country were publishing the story. Okay, so

0:25:42.520 --> 0:25:43.440
<v Speaker 1>the headlines, where are.

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:45.800
<v Speaker 2>The documents that he was like traveling with?

0:25:45.880 --> 0:25:47.560
<v Speaker 1>He still got him in it, but he's telling everybody

0:25:47.600 --> 0:25:48.280
<v Speaker 1>what they contained.

0:25:48.280 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 4>He's like, ah, were planning to attack on October fifth?

0:25:51.520 --> 0:25:54.200
<v Speaker 2>That was heavy.

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:58.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're going to bet that you have THEIRSVP. So

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:01.800
<v Speaker 1>the news paper started publishing the story right, and the

0:26:01.840 --> 0:26:06.040
<v Speaker 1>headlines were like remarkable series of narrow escapes and said

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:09.040
<v Speaker 1>that Gunter was pretending to be mcgarvin, and he was

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:11.600
<v Speaker 1>trying to get back to Germany to fight the English, like,

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:13.960
<v Speaker 1>whoa billy, have you ever let something slipt that was

0:26:13.960 --> 0:26:15.040
<v Speaker 1>supposed to stay secret?

0:26:15.680 --> 0:26:19.000
<v Speaker 2>Everything? Okay, great, don't tell me a secret.

0:26:19.119 --> 0:26:21.600
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm terrible at it too, like fucking unfold like

0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 1>a table.

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:23.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well everyone should know.

0:26:24.200 --> 0:26:25.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're like no, no, no, guys, let's get it

0:26:25.920 --> 0:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>out in the open. So now that basically the entire

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.960
<v Speaker 1>country knew who he was, Gunta rushed to say ahead

0:26:31.960 --> 0:26:34.120
<v Speaker 1>of anyone who might want to grab him. He hopped

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:36.320
<v Speaker 1>from train to train across the whole country. Right. He

0:26:36.400 --> 0:26:38.520
<v Speaker 1>was looking over his shoulder at every stop, being like,

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>why the fuck did I tell that journal is my secrets?

0:26:41.040 --> 0:26:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm being chased by the consequences of my own actions, summit,

0:26:43.760 --> 0:26:48.240
<v Speaker 1>but I am still to dragon Master cool Yah. His

0:26:48.280 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 1>panic jump from train to train finally brought him to

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 1>New York. Of course, he didn't have the right papers

0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.800
<v Speaker 1>from Atlantic crossing. He needed to find someone in the

0:26:55.840 --> 0:26:58.359
<v Speaker 1>city who could ford him a passport, tak him about

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:00.800
<v Speaker 1>three weeks, and he was apparently pretty spread by the end.

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 1>So he says, the only thing.

0:27:02.200 --> 0:27:04.360
<v Speaker 2>That call what neighborhood in New York. Do you think

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:04.639
<v Speaker 2>it was?

0:27:04.800 --> 0:27:06.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I think you know, he says

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>that the only thing that called these nerves is going

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:10.600
<v Speaker 1>to see a performance of Hansel and Gretel at the

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Metropolitan Opera. And that's a true story, Like this is

0:27:14.840 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>so soothing? Is this from Hansel and Gretel?

0:27:24.560 --> 0:27:24.720
<v Speaker 2>Jo.

0:27:26.720 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 1>So eventually Gunta found a sketchy dude who would make

0:27:30.160 --> 0:27:32.280
<v Speaker 1>him a fake passport, and he bought a ticket to

0:27:32.320 --> 0:27:36.320
<v Speaker 1>Italy under the fake Swiss name, and souss, you can

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>find anything in New York. What's the weirdest thing you've

0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:39.680
<v Speaker 1>ever come across in New York City.

0:27:40.800 --> 0:27:43.320
<v Speaker 3>I remember getting on a subway and they had like

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 3>a iguana on a leash, like just someone like having

0:27:48.320 --> 0:27:49.800
<v Speaker 3>iguana on the leash in subway.

0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, this makes sense.

0:27:51.760 --> 0:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>So now we're at escape number three. So Gunta gets

0:27:57.480 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>across America and it seemed like it was all working

0:27:59.840 --> 0:28:02.520
<v Speaker 1>out for Gunter, except that when the ship reached Europe,

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:05.720
<v Speaker 1>it stopped at the English port of Gibraltar. And you

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:08.720
<v Speaker 1>know how Gunter had always been telling people he was Swiss. Well,

0:28:08.800 --> 0:28:12.080
<v Speaker 1>one of the actual Swiss passengers on board didn't recognize

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 1>his accent. Dude, if I were a fugitive bro like,

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:16.800
<v Speaker 1>people would think I'm a fucking mute, Like this guy

0:28:16.960 --> 0:28:18.720
<v Speaker 1>cannot shut the fuck up. He's like, yes, this is

0:28:18.760 --> 0:28:22.159
<v Speaker 1>the ascent. He's like, yes, this is the Swiss accent.

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>I am a Swiss guy.

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:23.879
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:26.879
<v Speaker 1>He sounds like a fucking Brad Pitt character anyway.

0:28:27.040 --> 0:28:29.680
<v Speaker 3>But also, why is homeboy just being like that's not

0:28:29.720 --> 0:28:30.479
<v Speaker 3>a Swiss accent?

0:28:30.560 --> 0:28:31.600
<v Speaker 2>So I should turn him in.

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're like I thought the Swiss we're known for

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>like fucking being like, yeah, why don't you go fix

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>the clock? Do me a favorable buddy, go fix the

0:28:40.600 --> 0:28:44.280
<v Speaker 1>clock while I do my thing. So I'm sorry to

0:28:44.320 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>our Swiss audience of one person. So, even with his

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:51.040
<v Speaker 1>fake Swiss passport, Gunter was arrested by English officers along

0:28:51.080 --> 0:28:53.560
<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of other Germans. Gunter was interrogated and

0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:55.680
<v Speaker 1>then shipped to England because he was now a prison

0:28:55.760 --> 0:29:06.440
<v Speaker 1>of war. So when he was finally locked up at

0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:09.040
<v Speaker 1>a prison of war camp in Plymouth on the southern

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:12.120
<v Speaker 1>coast of England, Gunter said that the rules were made

0:29:12.240 --> 0:29:16.880
<v Speaker 1>to be broken. Well, yeah, everybody's brutles precknant.

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes.

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:22.760
<v Speaker 1>So for example, obviously alcohol was forbidden for the prisoners

0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>of war, but once the guards became friends who Gunter

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and the other soldiers, they started smuggling them bottles of

0:29:28.320 --> 0:29:32.160
<v Speaker 1>beer and then things just escalated from there. They started

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>to let the chairman prisoners out to wander around the

0:29:35.200 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>town man and then what was really fucking crazy is

0:29:38.520 --> 0:29:40.840
<v Speaker 1>Gunter says that the English guards would even give them

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:45.120
<v Speaker 1>guns so that they could practice rifle exercises together. I mean,

0:29:45.160 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 1>this sounds like a weird euphemism, but even if it's not,

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to imagine things being any more lax, right.

0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.720
<v Speaker 2>This is probably like a broke Back Mountain situation I

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:54.720
<v Speaker 2>was having at that prison.

0:29:54.800 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe Anyway, so things were completely loose at the

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.360
<v Speaker 1>first prison, but Guncher kept complaining to the English guards

0:30:00.360 --> 0:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>that he was an officer. He gave them his full

0:30:02.720 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>identity and said that he deserves special treatment, and in

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 1>England that fucking worked. So they apologized for a give

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 1>oh sorry, sorry, sorry sorry, They apologize for keeping in

0:30:12.720 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 1>with the soldiers for so long and send him to

0:30:14.560 --> 0:30:17.480
<v Speaker 1>an officer's camp outside of London, and Gunter says that

0:30:17.520 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>he was finally treated like a human being again, and

0:30:20.000 --> 0:30:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that the English warden of the officers tried to ease

0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:25.840
<v Speaker 1>the existence of the Germans said so, as Gunter tells it,

0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 1>every two weeks at Taylor were dropped by the camp

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.160
<v Speaker 1>and make them new clothes. They were also given a

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.120
<v Speaker 1>monthly allowance of money, actual money, and they were all

0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:37.120
<v Speaker 1>like to write letters to Germany. What the fuck man

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>these guys are getting like tailored clothes because their officers

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:43.200
<v Speaker 1>like so British aristocracy, isn't it. Well, if you'll be

0:30:43.240 --> 0:30:46.000
<v Speaker 1>a prisoner, Chopton, you must look the polit old boy.

0:30:47.160 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 1>So this only lasted until Gunter was transferred to a

0:30:49.800 --> 0:30:52.960
<v Speaker 1>new prison camp further inland, a place called Donnington Hall.

0:30:53.400 --> 0:30:55.840
<v Speaker 1>It was this old castle now being used to hold inmates,

0:30:55.840 --> 0:30:58.520
<v Speaker 1>and Gunter says that everyone was packed into cold stone

0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:02.560
<v Speaker 1>rooms and in his words, like pickled herrings. So obviously,

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.320
<v Speaker 1>you know he couldn't stand for this, right, And after

0:31:05.360 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>one day when a deer somehow slipped inside the barbed

0:31:08.120 --> 0:31:10.640
<v Speaker 1>wire fence around the castle, Guntro was convinced that it

0:31:10.680 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 1>would be easy enough to slip out and escape. To

0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.000
<v Speaker 1>be honest, his plan was perfectly relatable. Right. He started

0:31:16.000 --> 0:31:18.640
<v Speaker 1>taking naps in the grass near the fence line. He

0:31:18.680 --> 0:31:21.720
<v Speaker 1>would lie on the grass gunto would watch the pattern

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.440
<v Speaker 1>of his centuries right, he figured out that their patrol

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 1>roots and schedules were matching, and after two months of

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:30.400
<v Speaker 1>his stay in Donnington Hall, Guntra had it all worked out.

0:31:30.520 --> 0:31:33.120
<v Speaker 1>He had spent every possible moment watching and waiting and

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:36.120
<v Speaker 1>laying his plans. He even worked out a couple of

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.719
<v Speaker 1>deals with the other prisoners to help him out. So

0:31:38.760 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of July, Gunta decided it was finally

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>time for escape number four.

0:31:43.360 --> 0:31:43.880
<v Speaker 2>Let's go.

0:31:48.280 --> 0:31:50.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Ben had to get that fourth one, Yeah,

0:31:50.160 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>you gotta get it. So step one, he says, he

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>prepared for the journey ahead by eating several substantial buttered rolls.

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:58.800
<v Speaker 1>If you were going to go run for freedom, what

0:31:58.800 --> 0:31:59.960
<v Speaker 1>would you want to see your last meal?

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:02.040
<v Speaker 2>Billy hell done us? Hell done us.

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 3>It's a meal my grandmam eggs Lithuanian dish. It's basically

0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:08.840
<v Speaker 3>similar to perogi. Oh, but it's like a dough and

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 3>meat things. It's one of my favorite things. It's a

0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:13.680
<v Speaker 3>fantastic what's your last meal?

0:32:14.160 --> 0:32:19.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh man? Probably fun, do you know, really? Yeah?

0:32:19.680 --> 0:32:20.600
<v Speaker 2>Cheese or chocolate?

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Cheese and chocolate. I'm just gonna like have if I

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<v Speaker 1>can double dip, you know, I'll just be like because

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<v Speaker 1>I like the I'm like, if I'm gonna go out,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go out with like the I love the

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.360
<v Speaker 1>custom of it, you know, pulling out a little bread,

0:32:32.360 --> 0:32:34.479
<v Speaker 1>pulling out the thing. I was just a classic guy.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you want me to tell you? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, So that night, during the evening roll call,

0:32:38.480 --> 0:32:41.040
<v Speaker 1>another prisoner laid in. Gunter sped and claimed to be

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:43.880
<v Speaker 1>sick while Guntra and another German officer slipped over the

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>barbed wire fence under the cover of storm. They had

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.360
<v Speaker 1>three rows of electrified barbed wire to cross right, but

0:32:50.440 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Gunter and his companion had bundled themselves in thick leather

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<v Speaker 1>and they were able to scramble up and over, taking

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<v Speaker 1>a few scratches, but nothing worse. Gunter does say at

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<v Speaker 1>one point he tore a hole in the seat of

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:05.240
<v Speaker 1>his trousers. How did they How did they even get

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>the thick leather leggings to you? Said, I don't fucking

0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.320
<v Speaker 1>want to know. So once they were on the road,

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:12.320
<v Speaker 1>they had a close call as one of the prison

0:33:12.320 --> 0:33:16.200
<v Speaker 1>guards passed by Goldjer says that the two escapees behaved

0:33:16.240 --> 0:33:19.200
<v Speaker 1>like a rollicking pair of love birds and locked together

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<v Speaker 1>in a kiss, and they just heard that the guard

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>clicked his tongue and he went on by I love

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of Gonta taking it on for like longer

0:33:26.680 --> 0:33:29.760
<v Speaker 1>than necessary, because just because he was lonely, like bro, like, bro,

0:33:29.920 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 1>we been kissing for a while, Like you're sure he

0:33:31.920 --> 0:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>can still see us, like yeah, yeah, Now tell me

0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm funny, I'm cute, loud, not tell me I'm beautiful. Please.

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<v Speaker 1>So Gujar had carried some normal clothes with him, along

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:42.720
<v Speaker 1>with a razor and a few other things. So the

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<v Speaker 1>next morning, as the two escapees made their way toward

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:47.840
<v Speaker 1>the nearest train station, they shaved, they changed clothes, and

0:33:47.880 --> 0:33:51.240
<v Speaker 1>climbed onto the train as normal passengers. They easily reached

0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:57.200
<v Speaker 1>London by noon and escaped Number four was complete. Gunder

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>knew the city he had visited before the war, and

0:33:59.440 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>he made his fine costume change into a dirty sailor

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 1>suit apparently, and he started looking around the docks for

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:07.000
<v Speaker 1>a boat he could steal. It actually took him a

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks because in the meantime, Gonter says He

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 1>made sure to have a good time in London, right,

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>He went to the museums, eight in the pubs, and

0:34:13.840 --> 0:34:16.040
<v Speaker 1>he even saw at least one play. What would be

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.919
<v Speaker 1>a show? Yea, He's like, I kind of get it off.

0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:21.160
<v Speaker 1>What would be one show that you risk your freedom

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:22.480
<v Speaker 1>to go see your concert?

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 3>I wish I got to see Yeah right before the pandemic.

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:28.840
<v Speaker 3>I was going to see a rage against the machine.

0:34:28.880 --> 0:34:30.759
<v Speaker 3>They had just got back together. I would love to

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<v Speaker 3>see them live.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. For me would be a Menuda reunion. I just

0:34:36.040 --> 0:34:37.799
<v Speaker 1>got to see him once. I talk about him all

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<v Speaker 1>the time.

0:34:38.360 --> 0:34:44.360
<v Speaker 2>So might Minuda was different from Amenudo, didn't I?

0:34:44.880 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>There you go your Spanish lie, you're du a linguist popping.

0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:50.200
<v Speaker 1>But all the fun and games had come to an end.

0:34:50.400 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Gunta saw in the paper and that the other escapee

0:34:52.960 --> 0:34:55.319
<v Speaker 1>had been caught, and then the bricks were hot on

0:34:55.320 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 1>his trail. The police were searching for a man with

0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 1>a large dragon tattoo on his left arm. So the

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>Dragonmaster finally had to go ahead and just start stealing

0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>some fucking boats.

0:35:04.680 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I don't I thought you were going to say,

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:07.439
<v Speaker 3>cut off his arm.

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:09.399
<v Speaker 1>He cut off it. I love it. I loved him

0:35:09.400 --> 0:35:11.359
<v Speaker 1>being like I knew I shouldn't have made people call

0:35:11.400 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 1>me dragon Master here too, like why did I do this?

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't get enough of this nickname. So the first

0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 1>boat that Gunter stole was about as successful as his

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:22.200
<v Speaker 1>flying right. He climbed inside a little boat and pushed

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>off the dog bor. After a minute, he realized that

0:35:24.080 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 1>the boat was leaking, and he says that he tried

0:35:26.400 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 1>to paddle the Thames River exactly while it was going dry.

0:35:31.040 --> 0:35:33.080
<v Speaker 1>So by the end the river was empty and the

0:35:33.080 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 1>boat was full and he was completely stuck in the mud. Wow.

0:35:36.280 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 1>He says that he crawled through the mud back through

0:35:38.440 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 1>the river bank, where people walking by thought he was

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:43.120
<v Speaker 1>drunk and just laughed at him for crawling around in

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.520
<v Speaker 1>the mud. Seriously, has there ever been a more like

0:35:45.600 --> 0:35:48.080
<v Speaker 1>go home your drunk prison escape like book? Dude, like

0:35:48.160 --> 0:35:51.439
<v Speaker 1>fucking cash it in? But Gunja went down the river

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and so the next night, as the tide was going out,

0:35:53.800 --> 0:35:56.919
<v Speaker 1>he found an unattended fishing boat, so he pushed out

0:35:56.960 --> 0:35:59.440
<v Speaker 1>into the English Channel. It was under the cover of

0:35:59.520 --> 0:36:02.320
<v Speaker 1>darkness he was able to paddle furiously toward a streamer

0:36:02.520 --> 0:36:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that was anchored off the coast. He reached it without

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>being seen, climbed aboard and stowed away, That is, escaped.

0:36:09.760 --> 0:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Number five, Gunter was finally on his way one bar

0:36:15.600 --> 0:36:22.760
<v Speaker 1>back to Germany. Gunto Pluscha, was the only German prisoner

0:36:22.760 --> 0:36:24.919
<v Speaker 1>to escape an English prisoner of war camp in either

0:36:24.960 --> 0:36:27.439
<v Speaker 1>World War One or World War Two, or at least

0:36:27.440 --> 0:36:29.960
<v Speaker 1>that's a story. So in total, his journey from Sintau

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:33.920
<v Speaker 1>across America, into the English pow camps, and then finally

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 1>back into Germany had taken only nine months. In nineteen

0:36:37.200 --> 0:36:40.680
<v Speaker 1>twenty two, Yeah, Gunter published a book in English called

0:36:40.920 --> 0:36:43.960
<v Speaker 1>My Escape from Dunnington Hall, and it gave a detailed

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:46.120
<v Speaker 1>story of his life. It is you might not be

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.280
<v Speaker 1>surprised to hear extremely racist about people he met in China,

0:36:49.600 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 1>and this is so I want to recommend people reading it.

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.440
<v Speaker 1>But he spends a lot of time talking about how

0:36:54.440 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>great Germany is and how how much he loves German

0:36:57.480 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Emperor and the prestige of the white race. Oh that's nice,

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's so good for you, gunt. There's a lot

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:06.959
<v Speaker 1>of extravotion about like darling blonde hair and wonderful blue

0:37:06.960 --> 0:37:09.640
<v Speaker 1>eyes and wait a minute, was he describing you Billy

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>He's like, one day there was a born a man

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:15.399
<v Speaker 1>who builds houses with beautiful blue eyes. I don't even

0:37:15.400 --> 0:37:16.719
<v Speaker 1>know are your eyes blue or green?

0:37:16.960 --> 0:37:23.200
<v Speaker 6>They're blue. Guncher's my uncle. After his escape, Gunte took

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:25.839
<v Speaker 6>up flying again. When the war ended, he started sailing too.

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 6>He started going to his favorite German destination, Argentina. Bro

0:37:29.800 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 6>German soldiers love Argentina like they love It's wild.

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<v Speaker 1>It's wild how many blond babies were born in nineteen

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:39.440
<v Speaker 1>forty six down there? You know. Obviously guy was truly

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 1>a trailerbilizer for Nazis. You know. On one of his trip,

0:37:42.520 --> 0:37:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Gunter even brought a camera with him and made a

0:37:44.320 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 1>silent film called in Wilde Fluges zu unzbucken Belton, Oh

0:37:50.400 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>sorry Germans or flying in Pictures to Unknown Worlds.

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:57.960
<v Speaker 2>No I thought it translated to one percent that bitch.

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:01.719
<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. It was a Lisso song, an

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:04.200
<v Speaker 1>early version of a Lisso song. So it follows his

0:38:04.280 --> 0:38:06.880
<v Speaker 1>journey Coloss the Atlantic, showing him flying and has some

0:38:07.000 --> 0:38:09.880
<v Speaker 1>early airborne footage of Tierra al Felo. It's all up

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:11.319
<v Speaker 1>on YouTube at this point if you want to check

0:38:11.360 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>it out. And apparently it was a huge hit in

0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.080
<v Speaker 1>Germany in the nineteen thirties. So all these things bring

0:38:16.160 --> 0:38:18.160
<v Speaker 1>us to the end of his life and he guesses

0:38:18.200 --> 0:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>for how Guntar is going to die? Dduh.

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:23.360
<v Speaker 2>It costs like chokes on something in sleep.

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:27.520
<v Speaker 1>No no, no, no no. He was flying. He was

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 1>flying his plane on Argandina, of course, and once he

0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 1>was up over the mountains, he lost control for what

0:38:32.719 --> 0:38:35.960
<v Speaker 1>felt like the million times. But the self proclaimed Dragonmaster

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 1>had run out of luck. It was nineteen thirty one

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:42.440
<v Speaker 1>when Gunta finally went down in the mountains of Patagonia.

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Only this time, instead of the plane flying into a

0:38:44.680 --> 0:38:47.280
<v Speaker 1>pile of shit, it was a pile of shit flying

0:38:47.320 --> 0:39:00.080
<v Speaker 1>into a mountain. Oh and that's it, buddy. Wow, What

0:39:00.080 --> 0:39:02.080
<v Speaker 1>are the takeaways? What are the takeaways of this story?

0:39:02.080 --> 0:39:02.719
<v Speaker 1>For you, my friend?

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 3>To get out of any situation you need just some

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:07.959
<v Speaker 3>careen love.

0:39:08.200 --> 0:39:09.960
<v Speaker 1>That's it, man. And so now let me do a

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:12.279
<v Speaker 1>little plug. Okay, So listeners can find you in the

0:39:12.280 --> 0:39:16.520
<v Speaker 1>film Lift on Netflix, Roadhouse on Amazon, the franchise on HBO,

0:39:16.960 --> 0:39:20.759
<v Speaker 1>and later this year, Leelo and Stitch live action remake Roadhouse,

0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:24.799
<v Speaker 1>Roadhouse Baby. Check it out Roadhouse, And so listen, let

0:39:24.840 --> 0:39:26.879
<v Speaker 1>me know if you're into this, but to play us out.

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>I would like for them to play as a song

0:39:28.840 --> 0:39:31.840
<v Speaker 1>and for us to kind of try to reenact a conversation,

0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>a conversation or a song, because I hear you have

0:39:33.880 --> 0:39:37.240
<v Speaker 1>a beautiful voice, So a song would go between Gunter

0:39:37.440 --> 0:39:39.520
<v Speaker 1>and maybe his military observer up in the air for

0:39:39.560 --> 0:39:43.719
<v Speaker 1>the first time. You want to try it? Okay, give

0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>us some music. Do you see a mountain down there?

0:39:51.440 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Should we go down there?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it destiny that Wi Kings is really cold in

0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:58.520
<v Speaker 4>the back seat?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you open stuff window?

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:40:00.280 --> 0:40:03.280
<v Speaker 2>They're on the windows because there is the open air cockpit.

0:40:03.600 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I got na cross, I got that crusters you

0:40:05.920 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>want to crush? You want to custer? You see that?

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Would you like to go? Man? God, thank you Bailey,

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. Brother. That was so fucking funny.

0:40:17.280 --> 0:40:18.479
<v Speaker 2>Do some amazing shit.

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<v Speaker 1>Man, brother, I have all the love for you. I

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:24.160
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you doing this, Thank you for being so open

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.120
<v Speaker 1>with us. And I can't wait for us to do

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 1>another fucking film together. Man, I really truly can't wait. Ah. Yeah, anytime,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, brother, thank you? And that's great. As escapes,

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