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Speaker 1: This is as great as Escapes, a show bringing you

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Speaker 1: the wildest true escape stories of all time. I'm Attura

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Speaker 1: Castro and I'm here with the incredibly talented actor with

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Speaker 1: the voice of an absolute angel, Billy Magnuson. Guys, what

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Speaker 1: a treat we have for you today. We have the one,

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Speaker 1: the only Billy Magnusse. So, brother, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for doing this. I really appreciate it. You and Georgia

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Speaker 1: right now building a house from from from the ground up, by.

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Speaker 2: Yourself, renovating, renovating.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're building a house by yourself because

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Speaker 1: you're impressively fun.

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Speaker 3: This admitted with my brothers. Actually it's actually with my

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Speaker 3: brothers and my dad. You know, grew up in a

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Speaker 3: carpentry shop.

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Speaker 1: So are you renovating a house you grew up in

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Speaker 1: or a house you got in Georgia?

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Speaker 2: No, house I got in Georgia. It's like close to

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Speaker 2: my parents' place.

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Speaker 3: So you know, when I'm not shooting a movie with

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Speaker 3: you co starring next to you, you know, I'm building houses.

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Speaker 1: Work in construction, that's all. You're doing a movie or

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Speaker 1: you're building a house. That's what building Magison does.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's it. What else is there to do?

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Speaker 1: Do you have something that you considered to be your

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Speaker 1: greatest escape?

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Speaker 3: Brother, My biggest real escape was like probably getting away

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Speaker 3: from a life I didn't want to live. I would say, like,

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Speaker 3: like detox from that and not do that shit. It's

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Speaker 3: been so helpful.

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Speaker 1: Try try having the only other well known Watermellon actor

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Speaker 1: be Oscar Isaac. I mean every time every time I

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Speaker 3: There was something about my own trust and like caring

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Speaker 3: for myself, I stop doing and to like move on,

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Speaker 3: move past that and escape that that black hole of it.

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Speaker 3: That's been the best escape in my life to enjoy life.

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Speaker 1: Again. Thank you for being so open with us, man.

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Speaker 1: Did you ever get faced with the like like unsmoking,

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Speaker 1: what do you have to complain about? Not from your

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Speaker 2: No, definitely from my family.

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Speaker 3: But again I come from the majority of dudes that

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Speaker 2: It's me and my brothers, you know, a bunch of

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Speaker 1: Got some guys that I just build some house.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, David was just get your head

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Speaker 3: do you got. Look, it's fucking beautiful today when you

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Speaker 1: Well, brother, listen, thank you so much for opening up

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Speaker 1: an insane escape? Brother?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's rock and roll. So our story begins with

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Speaker 1: a man named Gunta Pluschkau. He was this German naval

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Speaker 1: So the German place of that time, they were called doves,

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Speaker 3: That was like we were the Jamaican Bob sled team

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Speaker 3: It's like one of the biggest sports in the stands.

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Speaker 3: And that was part of the first ever American coke

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Speaker 3: Before, right before the game, cut off the head and

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Speaker 1: The German Air Force was so impressed with Gunta's prodigious

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Speaker 2: Man, I just wanted my schnitzel and some beer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got polio. Dude, I can't do that.

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Speaker 1: Though you would, you would definitely do it.

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Speaker 3: I like things in my life always show up, Like

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Speaker 1: That now, you know. It's yeah, yeah, It's like.

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Speaker 1: I'm a bugget to know, you know. I find that

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Speaker 3: the airport for me. Yeah, yeah, but like every time

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Speaker 1: It doesn't feel like that that what's called the roller

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Speaker 1: coaster pole. It just feels like floating through the air. Yeah. Also,

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Speaker 1: I would like to shout out to our sponsors Tandem

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Speaker 1: Tandem Skydivings off Phillong Island. What if we're just this

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Speaker 1: is just a paid partnership I fucking for like Airlines,

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Speaker 1: German Airlines and Cark is throwing so Gunter got this

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Speaker 1: request approved right of somebody coming with him, but that

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Speaker 1: first they took off in a dense fog and Gunta

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Speaker 1: couldn't see and flew thank you. Is that a fog sound? Yeah, oh,

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Speaker 1: That's a lot so he was. He realized that he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it's good. Yeah, is flying big fighting boy? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That's like awesome, See what happens to humanity like that,

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, Billy, if a fucking guy landed with a

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so let's get get you out. So when

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Speaker 1: Hey, overlords, it's got to be a different plane, right.

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Speaker 1: Not like you're like, legally I cannot give your details

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Speaker 2: Contest, and I've always been lucky. Let's just say that

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Speaker 3: Out of stuff, Like I've been flown from a bike

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Speaker 1: Probably what happened rock climbing, you almost died.

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Speaker 3: I felt like I felt like maybe fifty feet no,

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Speaker 2: I felt like thirty something feet halfway down, and when.

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Speaker 2: To land in water, and so what Yeah, we out.

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Speaker 3: The worst part wasn't the like my back and the

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Speaker 1: Two weeks ill you're like, what if you said like

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Speaker 1: So Gunter He says that the play was smashed up

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Speaker 1: completely embedded in soggy shit. Right, sorry, soggy poo poo.

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Speaker 1: Somehow going to escape with his life, and so did

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Speaker 1: his escape number one. Okay, okay, I really hope that

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Speaker 1: give that one more time? Yes? Thank you. So in

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Speaker 1: this grace, both men took a train back to Gunter's

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Speaker 2: So now let's go back earlier.

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Speaker 3: So they landed in a field, crashed in a field,

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Speaker 2: They got back up in the air.

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Speaker 1: No no, no, no, no, no no. They took the train back.

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Speaker 1: So they both both men took a first time where

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Speaker 1: the no, they got back up, They got back up

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Speaker 3: That's just like hitchhiking a ride is like, yeah, I'll

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Speaker 3: go back up. I'm just saying they could have taken

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they could have taken a train back, but they

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Speaker 1: is what flying is. You have to like crash land

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Speaker 1: It's in the news. Somehow, despite this, the Navy still

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Speaker 1: Gunter still thought that this was a good idea. Literally,

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Speaker 1: in his book, he ends the chapter of the crash

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Speaker 1: a farmer dad. You know, So, why did the German

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Speaker 1: Tau uhuh, named after the fantastic beer huh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because the German Kaiser was extremely jealous of his

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Speaker 1: they're all basically like, no I wanted it, No I

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Speaker 1: wanted You know. That's really how World War for the

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Speaker 1: First World War happened. But how would you how would

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Speaker 1: your family do it? Ruling a continent? What do you think?

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Speaker 1: Imagine your family drama, but boosted by to scale to

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Speaker 1: scale a global empire.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, I think it would be a good time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Particular, your brothers sound like, you know, like there's conflict.

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Speaker 1: They're like, just get your head out of you ass, Hey, Russia,

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Speaker 2: Build the house. Let's have a beer, enjoy ourselves.

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Speaker 1: So the German navy put the city under a military dictatorship.

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Speaker 1: So side, I wonder if it's related that there's a

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Speaker 1: their brewing, don't they? To hey, overlords, is it related? Yes,

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Speaker 1: this is when the Germans built that brewery. Oh okay, okay, okay.

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Speaker 1: So I was right, good for me? So Wunderkin Gunta

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Speaker 1: And by the way, he had joined a German military

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Speaker 1: had already sailed around Sintau as a navy officer. In

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Speaker 1: to his left wrist. You got any ink I do? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you don't regret any of them.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you've seen me with my clothes off.

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Speaker 1: So do you? How many do you have?

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Speaker 2: Four? All? I wish, I wish I didn't have any

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Speaker 1: But listen, particularly like that, like early nineteen hundreds, it

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Speaker 3: Isn't like all the sailors would get tattoos all the

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Speaker 1: I didn't associate with German navy guys. But I guess.

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Speaker 1: You know, you're on a boat, everything goes, you know.

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Speaker 1: So after his flying lessons and you know, crashing his

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Speaker 1: least that's what Gunter would tell people. Do you think

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Speaker 1: dragon man. Yeah exactly. Yeah, Hey, hey Gunta Gunta fucking fine,

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Speaker 1: hey dragon master? Yeah yeah, but you're calling me, oh

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Speaker 1: my god.

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Speaker 2: How are you this quick? Dude?

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Speaker 1: Well, I have my I have writers in my ear.

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Speaker 1: It's Tory Smith and Alyssa just going like okay and

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Speaker 1: now bits bits bits bits okay, okay, thank you okay,

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Speaker 1: but also okay, so dragon Master he's pushing his nickname

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Speaker 1: on everybody. And this was July of nineteen fourteen. So

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Speaker 1: the other thing happening at the end of July nineteen

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Speaker 1: Oh coincidence, I think not? Where was he? So soon

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Speaker 1: enough Germany and Russia were scrapping. Apparently we'll talking with

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Speaker 1: an English girlfriend, Gunter told her that it was fine

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Speaker 1: Germany was fighting Russia because they would never fight England.

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Speaker 1: that year, the German Sincintau were surrounded. Right, a combined

436
00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,800
Speaker 1: army of Japanese and English troops had the city under siege.

437
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 1: Did you expect the English to show up there?

438
00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:42,439
Speaker 4: Like?

439
00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:45,160
Speaker 1: It seemed like around that time. English would always go like, oh,

440
00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,639
Speaker 1: it's his sub education, yes please, I haven't.

441
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's crazy is that that they they probably sailed

442
00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:54,640
Speaker 3: that whole way like at that time.

443
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the air force wasn't that powerful, and

444
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,160
Speaker 1: their navy has always been known for for being great.

445
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,640
Speaker 1: So apparently in the attacks on the city. The Japanese

446
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:06,720
Speaker 1: army was extremely careful not to damage the German brewery

447
00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: because fucking priorities. I respect that. And in the battle,

448
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 1: Gunter was the German scout, so he would fly over

449
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: the city and report what he saw about the Japanese

450
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 1: and English shoops, where they were camped, how many there were,

451
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: things like that. But at first the soldiers mocked him,

452
00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 1: saying that while they were fighting on the ground, he

453
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,080
Speaker 1: was just playing games up in the air. The truth

454
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 1: is that Gunter's information was actually pretty useful, but the

455
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 1: insult stung, so he started to beg the German engineers

456
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,680
Speaker 1: to figure out how to make bombs so he could

457
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,800
Speaker 1: drop them from his plane. And what did they come

458
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 1: up with. They filled four pound coffee tins with sticks

459
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,119
Speaker 1: to dynamite, with nails with scrap metal. Thank you, Ben,

460
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,879
Speaker 1: and Gunter started carrying them up to the air with

461
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,800
Speaker 1: him and throwing them over the side. This seems fucking insane.

462
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 1: Can you imagine carrying a coffee tin full of dynamite

463
00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 1: on your lap while you drive, let alone fight up

464
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: into the air. That's awesome. I was gonna say, Billy's like, well,

465
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,920
Speaker 1: if it showed up at that time in my life.

466
00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:00,160
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say it.

467
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:01,720
Speaker 2: I'm to it.

468
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 3: I mean there's people that drive with guns in the

469
00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:05,040
Speaker 3: cars here, man.

470
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was different than that of my busy. I

471
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,480
Speaker 1: see the point, Okay, I see the point.

472
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 3: And these are those biplanes, like it has two things,

473
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,280
Speaker 3: like it's open.

474
00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 2: Cockpit, the whole thing.

475
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,320
Speaker 1: And that's what I imagine because that's what the Red

476
00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 1: Baron was known for, right, like from shooting it like fighting,

477
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:19,240
Speaker 1: fighting in the air.

478
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:22,359
Speaker 3: When one of the the gun with the revolver comeing

479
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,560
Speaker 3: or with the propeller, you know, when the gun with

480
00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:29,199
Speaker 3: the propeller. Yeah, so it was timed it would shoot

481
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,440
Speaker 3: but through the spins of the blade.

482
00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: That was in nineteen fifteen. That was in nineteen fifteen.

483
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 1: We were a year ahead. So okay, so let's calm

484
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,439
Speaker 1: the fuck down, Billy. Okay, you're ahead of the you're

485
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: ahead of the game. You're ahead of the game. So

486
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 1: unfortunately for everyone involved, the bombs were mostly duds. Right

487
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: at one point, he dropped his bomb in an English

488
00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,760
Speaker 1: military tent and it just like took a trampoline bounce

489
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,040
Speaker 1: off the canvas. So it was really embarrassing, and then

490
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: just went into the mud, and when he would hit

491
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 1: Japanese ships, the bombs would also just bounce off it

492
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: without exploding, and Gunter says that all these failures made

493
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 1: him get over the first pleasant emotion of bombing. Fucking

494
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,760
Speaker 1: the pleasant emotion of bombing really sounds like a memoir

495
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: by a fucking psychopath, or how you described the beginning

496
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: of my stand up career, Oh pleasure of bombing. Actually,

497
00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:18,720
Speaker 1: to be honest, my my only foray into stand up

498
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: comedy went very well, and I decided never to touch

499
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 1: it again. Have you ever tried that?

500
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,920
Speaker 2: Absolutely not? Have you heard? Have you heard me talk

501
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:28,680
Speaker 2: of this podcast? And now I can do it.

502
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 1: You're funny, You're funny in the group. You're good. You

503
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: know what, You're great board games man, You're great at

504
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,040
Speaker 1: leading board games. Okay, and don't let anybody tell you differently, buddy.

505
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:37,439
Speaker 2: Thanks.

506
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:42,560
Speaker 1: With Gunter doing exactly squat with the dumb bombs, the

507
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: siege of Sintau lasted for more than a month. The

508
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 1: Germans finally surrendered the city in November and Guncher had

509
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: one final mission, and he was given a package of

510
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,200
Speaker 1: secret documents and told to fly south out of the city.

511
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 1: He launched into the air and traveled along the Chinese coast,

512
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: flying south for as long as he could. For those

513
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:04,119
Speaker 1: counting at home, this is Gunter's escape number two. Okay,

514
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: find like a chicken from the siege of Singtau and

515
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 1: leaving behind all that delicious, delicious beer. Now eventually going

516
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: to was forced to land, so he did his signature

517
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: maneuver where he sent his plane nose down into a

518
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: nice mud patch. Despite his time in Sintau, Gunter didn't

519
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 1: speak any Chinese, so he needed an American missionary to

520
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 1: help him get into Shanghai. Have you ever regretted not

521
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: learning a language, Billy?

522
00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:35,119
Speaker 3: Yes, so many great?

523
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I got two and a half a little bit

524
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 1: of French in my in my pocket, and I got

525
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: to what you got.

526
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 2: I got French English in half of Spanish.

527
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:49,199
Speaker 1: Half a Spanish. Just once you get Spanish, you automatically like,

528
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: are shoot in from the Portuguese and Italian kind of yeah.

529
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,160
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, they're all romantic languages.

530
00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: We're romantic guys. So after he showed up Shanghai, a

531
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: meal freighter was scheduled to travel from Shanghai to California,

532
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 1: and Gunder got on board. He decided to travel as

533
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: an Englishman named mcgarvin, and.

534
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: They were sure mcgarvin the dragon slayer.

535
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, the dragon guy, the dragon slayer. So they were

536
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 1: sure that the Americans wouldn't be able to tell the

537
00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: difference between the German accent and an English accent, so

538
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: he wouldn't be in any danger, right, fucking audacity. On

539
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: the way, Gunja made the really strange choice to tell

540
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: other passengers well everything about himself, so that included giving

541
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 1: away all the details of his past false identity to

542
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: an American journalist on board. So when the ship docked

543
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: in Hawaii, the news got ahead of him right, and

544
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 1: by the time they landed in San Francisco in December,

545
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,399
Speaker 1: newspapers around the country were publishing the story. Okay, so

546
00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: the headlines, where are.

547
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: The documents that he was like traveling with?

548
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 1: He still got him in it, but he's telling everybody

549
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: what they contained.

550
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,520
Speaker 4: He's like, ah, were planning to attack on October fifth?

551
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 2: That was heavy.

552
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're going to bet that you have THEIRSVP. So

553
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: the news paper started publishing the story right, and the

554
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: headlines were like remarkable series of narrow escapes and said

555
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: that Gunter was pretending to be mcgarvin, and he was

556
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 1: trying to get back to Germany to fight the English, like,

557
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: whoa billy, have you ever let something slipt that was

558
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 1: supposed to stay secret?

559
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: Everything? Okay, great, don't tell me a secret.

560
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,600
Speaker 1: No, I'm terrible at it too, like fucking unfold like

561
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: a table.

562
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 2: I'm like, well everyone should know.

563
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like no, no, no, guys, let's get it

564
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 1: out in the open. So now that basically the entire

565
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: country knew who he was, Gunta rushed to say ahead

566
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: of anyone who might want to grab him. He hopped

567
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: from train to train across the whole country. Right. He

568
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 1: was looking over his shoulder at every stop, being like,

569
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: why the fuck did I tell that journal is my secrets?

570
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: Now I'm being chased by the consequences of my own actions, summit,

571
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:48,240
Speaker 1: but I am still to dragon Master cool Yah. His

572
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: panic jump from train to train finally brought him to

573
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,440
Speaker 1: New York. Of course, he didn't have the right papers

574
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: from Atlantic crossing. He needed to find someone in the

575
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,359
Speaker 1: city who could ford him a passport, tak him about

576
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: three weeks, and he was apparently pretty spread by the end.

577
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: So he says, the only thing.

578
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 2: That call what neighborhood in New York. Do you think

579
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 2: it was?

580
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think you know, he says

581
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: that the only thing that called these nerves is going

582
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: to see a performance of Hansel and Gretel at the

583
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: Metropolitan Opera. And that's a true story, Like this is

584
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: so soothing? Is this from Hansel and Gretel?

585
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:24,720
Speaker 2: Jo.

586
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: So eventually Gunta found a sketchy dude who would make

587
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: him a fake passport, and he bought a ticket to

588
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: Italy under the fake Swiss name, and souss, you can

589
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: find anything in New York. What's the weirdest thing you've

590
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: ever come across in New York City.

591
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 3: I remember getting on a subway and they had like

592
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 3: a iguana on a leash, like just someone like having

593
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 3: iguana on the leash in subway.

594
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, this makes sense.

595
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: So now we're at escape number three. So Gunta gets

596
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: across America and it seemed like it was all working

597
00:27:59,840 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 1: out for Gunter, except that when the ship reached Europe,

598
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 1: it stopped at the English port of Gibraltar. And you

599
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: know how Gunter had always been telling people he was Swiss. Well,

600
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: one of the actual Swiss passengers on board didn't recognize

601
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: his accent. Dude, if I were a fugitive bro like,

602
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 1: people would think I'm a fucking mute, Like this guy

603
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: cannot shut the fuck up. He's like, yes, this is

604
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: the ascent. He's like, yes, this is the Swiss accent.

605
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 1: I am a Swiss guy.

606
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 3: You know.

607
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: He sounds like a fucking Brad Pitt character anyway.

608
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 3: But also, why is homeboy just being like that's not

609
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 3: a Swiss accent?

610
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 2: So I should turn him in.

611
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like I thought the Swiss we're known for

612
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 1: like fucking being like, yeah, why don't you go fix

613
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: the clock? Do me a favorable buddy, go fix the

614
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: clock while I do my thing. So I'm sorry to

615
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: our Swiss audience of one person. So, even with his

616
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: fake Swiss passport, Gunter was arrested by English officers along

617
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: with a bunch of other Germans. Gunter was interrogated and

618
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 1: then shipped to England because he was now a prison

619
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: of war. So when he was finally locked up at

620
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,040
Speaker 1: a prison of war camp in Plymouth on the southern

621
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 1: coast of England, Gunter said that the rules were made

622
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: to be broken. Well, yeah, everybody's brutles precknant.

623
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: Yes, yes.

624
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: So for example, obviously alcohol was forbidden for the prisoners

625
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,320
Speaker 1: of war, but once the guards became friends who Gunter

626
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: and the other soldiers, they started smuggling them bottles of

627
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: beer and then things just escalated from there. They started

628
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: to let the chairman prisoners out to wander around the

629
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: town man and then what was really fucking crazy is

630
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: Gunter says that the English guards would even give them

631
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 1: guns so that they could practice rifle exercises together. I mean,

632
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: this sounds like a weird euphemism, but even if it's not,

633
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: it's hard to imagine things being any more lax, right.

634
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 2: This is probably like a broke Back Mountain situation I

635
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 2: was having at that prison.

636
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Anyway, so things were completely loose at the

637
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: first prison, but Guncher kept complaining to the English guards

638
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: that he was an officer. He gave them his full

639
00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: identity and said that he deserves special treatment, and in

640
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: England that fucking worked. So they apologized for a give

641
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 1: oh sorry, sorry, sorry sorry, They apologize for keeping in

642
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: with the soldiers for so long and send him to

643
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: an officer's camp outside of London, and Gunter says that

644
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: he was finally treated like a human being again, and

645
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 1: that the English warden of the officers tried to ease

646
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: the existence of the Germans said so, as Gunter tells it,

647
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: every two weeks at Taylor were dropped by the camp

648
00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: and make them new clothes. They were also given a

649
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 1: monthly allowance of money, actual money, and they were all

650
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,120
Speaker 1: like to write letters to Germany. What the fuck man

651
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: these guys are getting like tailored clothes because their officers

652
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: like so British aristocracy, isn't it. Well, if you'll be

653
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: a prisoner, Chopton, you must look the polit old boy.

654
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 1: So this only lasted until Gunter was transferred to a

655
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: new prison camp further inland, a place called Donnington Hall.

656
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: It was this old castle now being used to hold inmates,

657
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: and Gunter says that everyone was packed into cold stone

658
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: rooms and in his words, like pickled herrings. So obviously,

659
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: you know he couldn't stand for this, right, And after

660
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 1: one day when a deer somehow slipped inside the barbed

661
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: wire fence around the castle, Guntro was convinced that it

662
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: would be easy enough to slip out and escape. To

663
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: be honest, his plan was perfectly relatable. Right. He started

664
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 1: taking naps in the grass near the fence line. He

665
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 1: would lie on the grass gunto would watch the pattern

666
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: of his centuries right, he figured out that their patrol

667
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: roots and schedules were matching, and after two months of

668
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 1: his stay in Donnington Hall, Guntra had it all worked out.

669
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: He had spent every possible moment watching and waiting and

670
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: laying his plans. He even worked out a couple of

671
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,719
Speaker 1: deals with the other prisoners to help him out. So

672
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: at the beginning of July, Gunta decided it was finally

673
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: time for escape number four.

674
00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 2: Let's go.

675
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: Thank you. Ben had to get that fourth one, Yeah,

676
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: you gotta get it. So step one, he says, he

677
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: prepared for the journey ahead by eating several substantial buttered rolls.

678
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: If you were going to go run for freedom, what

679
00:31:58,800 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: would you want to see your last meal?

680
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 2: Billy hell done us? Hell done us.

681
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 3: It's a meal my grandmam eggs Lithuanian dish. It's basically

682
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: similar to perogi. Oh, but it's like a dough and

683
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: meat things. It's one of my favorite things. It's a

684
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 3: fantastic what's your last meal?

685
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: Oh man? Probably fun, do you know, really? Yeah?

686
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 2: Cheese or chocolate?

687
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: Cheese and chocolate. I'm just gonna like have if I

688
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: can double dip, you know, I'll just be like because

689
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: I like the I'm like, if I'm gonna go out,

690
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out with like the I love the

691
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,360
Speaker 1: custom of it, you know, pulling out a little bread,

692
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,479
Speaker 1: pulling out the thing. I was just a classic guy.

693
00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: What do you want me to tell you? And I

694
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: was like, So that night, during the evening roll call,

695
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 1: another prisoner laid in. Gunter sped and claimed to be

696
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 1: sick while Guntra and another German officer slipped over the

697
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: barbed wire fence under the cover of storm. They had

698
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: three rows of electrified barbed wire to cross right, but

699
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: Gunter and his companion had bundled themselves in thick leather

700
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: and they were able to scramble up and over, taking

701
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: a few scratches, but nothing worse. Gunter does say at

702
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: one point he tore a hole in the seat of

703
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 1: his trousers. How did they How did they even get

704
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 1: the thick leather leggings to you? Said, I don't fucking

705
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: want to know. So once they were on the road,

706
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: they had a close call as one of the prison

707
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 1: guards passed by Goldjer says that the two escapees behaved

708
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 1: like a rollicking pair of love birds and locked together

709
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: in a kiss, and they just heard that the guard

710
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 1: clicked his tongue and he went on by I love

711
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: the idea of Gonta taking it on for like longer

712
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: than necessary, because just because he was lonely, like bro, like, bro,

713
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: we been kissing for a while, Like you're sure he

714
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 1: can still see us, like yeah, yeah, Now tell me

715
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: I'm funny, I'm cute, loud, not tell me I'm beautiful. Please.

716
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: So Gujar had carried some normal clothes with him, along

717
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: with a razor and a few other things. So the

718
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 1: next morning, as the two escapees made their way toward

719
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: the nearest train station, they shaved, they changed clothes, and

720
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: climbed onto the train as normal passengers. They easily reached

721
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: London by noon and escaped Number four was complete. Gunder

722
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: knew the city he had visited before the war, and

723
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: he made his fine costume change into a dirty sailor

724
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: suit apparently, and he started looking around the docks for

725
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 1: a boat he could steal. It actually took him a

726
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: couple of weeks because in the meantime, Gonter says He

727
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: made sure to have a good time in London, right,

728
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: He went to the museums, eight in the pubs, and

729
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: he even saw at least one play. What would be

730
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,919
Speaker 1: a show? Yea, He's like, I kind of get it off.

731
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: What would be one show that you risk your freedom

732
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: to go see your concert?

733
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: I wish I got to see Yeah right before the pandemic.

734
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:28,840
Speaker 3: I was going to see a rage against the machine.

735
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,759
Speaker 3: They had just got back together. I would love to

736
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 3: see them live.

737
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me would be a Menuda reunion. I just

738
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 1: got to see him once. I talk about him all

739
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: the time.

740
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 2: So might Minuda was different from Amenudo, didn't I?

741
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,440
Speaker 1: There you go your Spanish lie, you're du a linguist popping.

742
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 1: But all the fun and games had come to an end.

743
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,960
Speaker 1: Gunta saw in the paper and that the other escapee

744
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: had been caught, and then the bricks were hot on

745
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: his trail. The police were searching for a man with

746
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,360
Speaker 1: a large dragon tattoo on his left arm. So the

747
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: Dragonmaster finally had to go ahead and just start stealing

748
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 1: some fucking boats.

749
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't I thought you were going to say,

750
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 3: cut off his arm.

751
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,399
Speaker 1: He cut off it. I love it. I loved him

752
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,359
Speaker 1: being like I knew I shouldn't have made people call

753
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 1: me dragon Master here too, like why did I do this?

754
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: I couldn't get enough of this nickname. So the first

755
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: boat that Gunter stole was about as successful as his

756
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: flying right. He climbed inside a little boat and pushed

757
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: off the dog bor. After a minute, he realized that

758
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: the boat was leaking, and he says that he tried

759
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: to paddle the Thames River exactly while it was going dry.

760
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: So by the end the river was empty and the

761
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: boat was full and he was completely stuck in the mud. Wow.

762
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: He says that he crawled through the mud back through

763
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 1: the river bank, where people walking by thought he was

764
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 1: drunk and just laughed at him for crawling around in

765
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: the mud. Seriously, has there ever been a more like

766
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: go home your drunk prison escape like book? Dude, like

767
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 1: fucking cash it in? But Gunja went down the river

768
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: and so the next night, as the tide was going out,

769
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 1: he found an unattended fishing boat, so he pushed out

770
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: into the English Channel. It was under the cover of

771
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: darkness he was able to paddle furiously toward a streamer

772
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 1: that was anchored off the coast. He reached it without

773
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: being seen, climbed aboard and stowed away, That is, escaped.

774
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: Number five, Gunter was finally on his way one bar

775
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 1: back to Germany. Gunto Pluscha, was the only German prisoner

776
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,919
Speaker 1: to escape an English prisoner of war camp in either

777
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,439
Speaker 1: World War One or World War Two, or at least

778
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: that's a story. So in total, his journey from Sintau

779
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 1: across America, into the English pow camps, and then finally

780
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: back into Germany had taken only nine months. In nineteen

781
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 1: twenty two, Yeah, Gunter published a book in English called

782
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: My Escape from Dunnington Hall, and it gave a detailed

783
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: story of his life. It is you might not be

784
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 1: surprised to hear extremely racist about people he met in China,

785
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: and this is so I want to recommend people reading it.

786
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: But he spends a lot of time talking about how

787
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,440
Speaker 1: great Germany is and how how much he loves German

788
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: Emperor and the prestige of the white race. Oh that's nice,

789
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: Oh that's so good for you, gunt. There's a lot

790
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,959
Speaker 1: of extravotion about like darling blonde hair and wonderful blue

791
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 1: eyes and wait a minute, was he describing you Billy

792
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: He's like, one day there was a born a man

793
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 1: who builds houses with beautiful blue eyes. I don't even

794
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 1: know are your eyes blue or green?

795
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 6: They're blue. Guncher's my uncle. After his escape, Gunte took

796
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 6: up flying again. When the war ended, he started sailing too.

797
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 6: He started going to his favorite German destination, Argentina. Bro

798
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,880
Speaker 6: German soldiers love Argentina like they love It's wild.

799
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: It's wild how many blond babies were born in nineteen

800
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 1: forty six down there? You know. Obviously guy was truly

801
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,439
Speaker 1: a trailerbilizer for Nazis. You know. On one of his trip,

802
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: Gunter even brought a camera with him and made a

803
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: silent film called in Wilde Fluges zu unzbucken Belton, Oh

804
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: sorry Germans or flying in Pictures to Unknown Worlds.

805
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: No I thought it translated to one percent that bitch.

806
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 1: That's what it is. It was a Lisso song, an

807
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: early version of a Lisso song. So it follows his

808
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: journey Coloss the Atlantic, showing him flying and has some

809
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 1: early airborne footage of Tierra al Felo. It's all up

810
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: on YouTube at this point if you want to check

811
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: it out. And apparently it was a huge hit in

812
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: Germany in the nineteen thirties. So all these things bring

813
00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: us to the end of his life and he guesses

814
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: for how Guntar is going to die? Dduh.

815
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: It costs like chokes on something in sleep.

816
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: No no, no, no no. He was flying. He was

817
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: flying his plane on Argandina, of course, and once he

818
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: was up over the mountains, he lost control for what

819
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 1: felt like the million times. But the self proclaimed Dragonmaster

820
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: had run out of luck. It was nineteen thirty one

821
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: when Gunta finally went down in the mountains of Patagonia.

822
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: Only this time, instead of the plane flying into a

823
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 1: pile of shit, it was a pile of shit flying

824
00:38:47,320 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: into a mountain. Oh and that's it, buddy. Wow, What

825
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: are the takeaways? What are the takeaways of this story?

826
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: For you, my friend?

827
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 3: To get out of any situation you need just some

828
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:07,959
Speaker 3: careen love.

829
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: That's it, man. And so now let me do a

830
00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: little plug. Okay, So listeners can find you in the

831
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: film Lift on Netflix, Roadhouse on Amazon, the franchise on HBO,

832
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: and later this year, Leelo and Stitch live action remake Roadhouse,

833
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 1: Roadhouse Baby. Check it out Roadhouse, And so listen, let

834
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,879
Speaker 1: me know if you're into this, but to play us out.

835
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: I would like for them to play as a song

836
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: and for us to kind of try to reenact a conversation,

837
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: a conversation or a song, because I hear you have

838
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 1: a beautiful voice, So a song would go between Gunter

839
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: and maybe his military observer up in the air for

840
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: the first time. You want to try it? Okay, give

841
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: us some music. Do you see a mountain down there?

842
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 1: Should we go down there?

843
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:57,440
Speaker 4: Is it destiny that Wi Kings is really cold in

844
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 4: the back seat?

845
00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: Can you open stuff window?

846
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

847
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 2: They're on the windows because there is the open air cockpit.

848
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got na cross, I got that crusters you

849
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: want to crush? You want to custer? You see that?

850
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: Would you like to go? Man? God, thank you Bailey,

851
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Brother. That was so fucking funny.

852
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:18,479
Speaker 2: Do some amazing shit.

853
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: Man, brother, I have all the love for you. I

854
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: appreciate you doing this, Thank you for being so open

855
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: with us. And I can't wait for us to do

856
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: another fucking film together. Man, I really truly can't wait. Ah. Yeah, anytime,

857
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: all right, brother, thank you? And that's great. As escapes,

858
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:41,479
Speaker 1: We're out. Gradi'st Escapes is a production of iHeart Radio

859
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: and Film Nation Entertainment in association with Gilded Audio. Our

860
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: executive producers for me are Turo Castro, Alyssa Martino and

861
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,439
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862
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,360
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863
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,000
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864
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: who are also, respectively, our research overlord and music overlord.

865
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,640
Speaker 1: Our associate producer is Tory Smith, who's our other overlord.

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Speaker 1: Special thanks to Alison Cohen, Dan Welsh, Ben Riiseek, Sarah Joyner,

868
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: Nicky Stein, Olivia Canny and Kelsey Albright. Hey, thank you

869
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 1: so much for listening, and if you're enjoying the show,

870
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: please drop a rating or review. My mom will call

871
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: you each personally and thank you, and we'll see you

872
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: all next week.