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Speaker 2: What sports professional professional like MLS.

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Speaker 3: Get this my third LAFC game. Three soccer games. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it was. It was super fun. Like soccer is the

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Speaker 3: I guess it's maybe because I played it as a kid.

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Speaker 3: You know, up until I was like, up until Boyne's World,

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Speaker 3: and it was so much fun. They have like a

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Speaker 3: and it keeps the audience's energy up so high. And

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Speaker 3: the stadium where LAFC plays is it's very small, like

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Speaker 4: So we were like, let's go to l A f C.

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Speaker 4: What does l a FC stand for?

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Speaker 3: Sorry, La Football Club Los Angele Football Club.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So it's a team, it's an MLS team, and they're great.

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Speaker 3: They're really good. They're like probably one of the best

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Speaker 3: so I was like, maybe maybe you'll get into soccer. No, no,

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Speaker 3: but you know, I guess he just takes after me.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was. It was super fun. So I

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Speaker 5: Stand in the cheering section? Are you part of the

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 3: Know, how you get in that? I mean they're like

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Speaker 3: they're all wearing like yeah, no, they like know these chants,

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Speaker 3: they have all these rituals and they're like so into it,

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Speaker 3: and but god, I would be exhausted. They're like for

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Speaker 3: it was. It's really fun. It's a great one. It

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Speaker 3: was a draw. Yeah, it was a really exciting game.

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Speaker 2: Like why they got to play for ninety minutes to

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Speaker 4: It's like, what the hell was the point of that?

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Speaker 2: It should be like quidditch, just play until somebody scores.

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Speaker 4: If it takes a month, it takes a month.

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Speaker 5: It looks like that LAFC might be in the eighth

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Speaker 5: team like out of nine noe. So what does that

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Speaker 5: mean like ratings? Yeah, like where they following the raidings?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Ok, no, it looks like it looks like Vancouver is

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Speaker 5: in first place, Portland second, third is Austin, fourth, Minnesota fifth,

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Speaker 5: Colorado FC, Dallas is sixth, San Diego seventh, LA FC eighth, ninth, Seattle, ten,

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Speaker 4: So no East Coast teams, Well, those.

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Speaker 5: That's the Western Conference in dot you got in the

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Speaker 4: Okay, so there are there's.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I guess I don't know about, like how like.

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Speaker 3: The see this has when my eyes start lacing over

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Speaker 1: No.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but going to a Gabe showing up and watching

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Speaker 3: them kick the ball around super fun. I had a

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Speaker 4: They're also incredible athletes.

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Speaker 2: I mean I I joke that you nothing happens in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's crazy to watch. It really is crazy to watch.

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Speaker 5: We went to a King's playoff game, King's hockey game.

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Speaker 5: I got to I got to bang the drum. So

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Speaker 5: at the end of every period.

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Speaker 4: And you got selected because your topanga. Of course, of course,

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Speaker 3: To anything and have a normal experience. She goes to concerts,

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Speaker 3: She's on stage within thirty seconds exactly.

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Speaker 4: I was playing drums for Rolling Stone this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Just picked up the guitar and jam to the sphere and.

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Speaker 5: It was It was a lot of fun. Mostly it

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Speaker 5: Why can't be on the big question?

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Speaker 5: My kids had so much fun. Adler is such an

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Speaker 2: It's such a change, though, from when he used to

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Speaker 5: Is it getting dark?

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Speaker 4: I need to go now.

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Speaker 5: Now he thinks he's like real mister independent and he

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Speaker 4: Just immediately needed to know.

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Speaker 5: It was so much fun.

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Speaker 4: So you guys had fun at sporting events. I had

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Speaker 4: Oh I made it? Okay, okay, I wasn't gonna leave.

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Speaker 5: What was in it?

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Speaker 2: Peanut butter and jelly, no complicated ham, A little bit of.

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Speaker 4: Ham from new hot honey, uh swojo. We got it,

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Speaker 4: We got it, We got Is he not the best,

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Speaker 4: it's the greatest.

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Speaker 5: It's it's incredible, the hot honey sour dough.

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Speaker 4: Yeah that was my night. So okay, pretty happy, good for.

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Speaker 5: You, Pretty happy. Welcome to pod meets World.

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Speaker 4: I'm Daniel Fishel, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilford.

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Speaker 5: Doe Oh, Welcome to today's episode. We are very excited

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Speaker 5: about our guest today. One of the more confusing parts

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Speaker 5: week has been the surprising string of additions and subtractions

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Speaker 5: can't place him, which is very hard to do. Before

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Speaker 5: episode that Love is Blind guy stole his quote from

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Speaker 5: We Got Your Many Many Emails. We have already recapped

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Speaker 5: that episode back in season three, so.

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Speaker 4: We got to the podcast.

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Speaker 4: Three episode one.

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Speaker 4: Get the big brain on, Brad, you know you.

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Speaker 5: Know, Okay, Well, enough of that. This week we are

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Speaker 5: He may not have ever won a super Bowl, but

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Speaker 5: I know he's gonna love him.

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Speaker 4: Amazing Number eight, number eight.

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Speaker 5: I did hear that? He there's another writer named Steve

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Speaker 5: Young and their checks used to get crossed. Oh my god,

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Speaker 5: I want to ask him about that. I want to know.

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Speaker 5: Did you ever you know, wouldn't it be great to

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Speaker 5: The quarterback?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well it wasn't Steve Young the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Huh, yeah it was. It was Steve Young who wrote

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Speaker 5: Oh how are you?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I'm wonderful. I just took my mother to breakfast

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Speaker 1: So I'm now at my lovely daughter's house doing this.

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Speaker 1: And right away, by the way, you would know the

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Speaker 1: after my kids.

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Speaker 5: Tell us your kids' names Kelly.

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Speaker 1: And Kelly is here today.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's so cool.

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Speaker 5: Okay, well, thank you so much for joining us. We

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Speaker 5: are collecting Boy Meets World writers like Pokemon, so you

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Speaker 5: got to catch them all first. Let's get a little

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Speaker 5: into your origin story. How did you find yourself doing

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Speaker 1: I mean really, yeah, that was it. I started actually

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Speaker 4: What was the name of the club?

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Speaker 5: Tell us tell us.

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Speaker 1: About the club, the Comedy Works. It ran from about

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Speaker 5: So you you did you own the club or you

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Speaker 1: I was also a manager, and I couldn't see. The

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Speaker 5: And you were also a comedian, so you owned a club,

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Speaker 2: My favorite thing in the world is going through the

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Speaker 1: So let's well, let me let me backstory. When about

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Speaker 1: But we did get sober. And when we got sober,

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Speaker 4: Endless breadsticks and laughs. That's what I'm telling you.

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Speaker 5: I mean, so out of everyone who came by comedy works,

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Speaker 1: There were? First of all, Leno was you have to

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Speaker 1: It was a brilliant night. Jim Carrey as no one

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So as a manager and then club owner, did

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Actually, when I went out to Los Angeles and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're like, thank you. So when does the idea

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Speaker 2: There was an entire like a system on Johnny Carson

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Speaker 1: Absolutely that was a different time. If you did Carson,

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Speaker 1: Well, back then, the philadelph comedy scene was great. I

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Speaker 2: And did you discover anybody, did you? I mean, in

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Speaker 1: But Tom what Uh? He worked my steps. So we

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 1: Ralph Harris. No, Ralph actually had a show on one

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Speaker 1: of the primetime networks and he played every character, most

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Speaker 1: every character he could do. That was part of his act.

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Speaker 1: And Ralph worked on the Steps for me too, and

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Speaker 1: then got his own TV show and I'm not sure

445
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Speaker 1: but network, but it was one of the three primary networks.

446
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Speaker 1: So there were a lot of guys who came through

447
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Speaker 1: who aren't weren't necessary that next day they became a star.

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Speaker 1: But I would say most anybody who came through, if

449
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Speaker 1: you would ask the comedian that play back there, they

450
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Speaker 1: will say they loved the club. It was. It was

451
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Speaker 1: just the audience was great, the shows were always great,

452
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Speaker 1: the number of acts that were on there, and and

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Speaker 1: we were we always were inmates running the aside. We

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Speaker 1: never felt like we were the corporate part of it.

455
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Speaker 1: We always felt that we were we were we were

456
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Speaker 1: all comedians too, and in effect we were all comedians.

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Speaker 5: So your first TV writing credit is on a show

458
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Speaker 5: called Me and the Boys, which was an ABC sitcom

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Speaker 5: starring Madge Sinclair and Steve Harvey. Did you did you

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Speaker 5: know what to do in the writer's room or did

461
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Speaker 5: you just slide in and learn as you go?

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Speaker 1: Well, this is this is funny.

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Speaker 6: I yeah, So I pitched and as an outsider, and uh,

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Speaker 6: back then you had I don't still have to hire

465
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Speaker 6: these two freelancers a year and I wrote the script

466
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Speaker 6: and I thought it was pretty good, and uh in the.

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Speaker 1: Writer's room where I sat, but I really was not

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Speaker 1: part of the writer's room here because I was an

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Speaker 1: outside of bringing the script and excuse me. I came

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Speaker 1: to the reading and uh, I didn't hear a word

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Speaker 1: that was mine. And I actually at the end, you know,

472
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Speaker 1: nobody left, nobody left, and I was sitting there, you know,

473
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Speaker 1: in the network thanking me for writing the script, and

474
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Speaker 1: I was thinking, I'll never I'll never work again. It was.

475
00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: It was so bad. And it's not anybody particularly fault.

476
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Speaker 1: This is what it ended up being. And the uh,

477
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Speaker 1: I the next time I came into a writer's room

478
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Speaker 1: or a reading, I would always sit down and say,

479
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Speaker 1: please take a look at a page twenty five, third

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Speaker 1: line down, the second conjunction, and is mine.

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? It was. It was. It was tough, but the opportunity,

483
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Speaker 1: excuse me to do it was wonderful.

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Speaker 5: Okay, So I want to get to eventually you are

485
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Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety five. You are now a part of

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Speaker 5: Boy Meets World, but you also have credits on another

487
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Speaker 5: Michael Jacobs show, maybe this time with Marie Osmond and

488
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Speaker 5: Betty White. How did you end up in the Michael

489
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Speaker 5: Jacobs orbit.

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Speaker 1: I really didn't end up in the Michael Jacobs he

491
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: was great. But it wasn't the Michael Jacobs. It was

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Speaker 1: the Bob Yo Bob.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we keep hearing that more and more.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Bob, first of all, he still is. I mean,

495
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Speaker 1: he's a wonderful guy. He's been a friend for years

496
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Speaker 1: and you know we all started together, and just a

497
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Speaker 1: sweet guy. He really did not belong to TV.

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Speaker 5: He was too too kind.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, always too kind. And every time I get

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Speaker 1: a residual check, especially from Boy Meets World, I always

501
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Speaker 1: hold it up say thank you. Bob.

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Speaker 5: Oh, did you know what Boy Meets World was before

503
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Speaker 5: you wrote your first script? How did it work out

504
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Speaker 5: that you so? Okay? I have to know? Were you

505
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Speaker 5: also a freelance writer for Boy Meets World?

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Speaker 1: Ah? Yeah, yeah, I think no I knew about Boyne

507
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 1: was great. You guys were terrific. I always tell people

508
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Speaker 1: the reason Boy Meets World was great, Well, they had

509
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Speaker 1: good writers and Michael Jacobs and all, but this was

510
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Speaker 1: a perfect cast. This the cast makes the show. And

511
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Speaker 1: you guys were easy to write for because the first

512
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Speaker 1: script I ever wrote was a cheers and it uh it.

513
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Speaker 1: I said, I can't write it Cheers It's it's way

514
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Speaker 1: too good. How can I write it. When I started writing,

515
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Speaker 1: it was easy because the characters were so well defined

516
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Speaker 1: that if I put the character's name down, it's said

517
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Speaker 1: that character said, that character would say. And I just

518
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Speaker 1: my fingers just followed the characters. I you know, I

519
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Speaker 1: didn't feel it was me boy meets World, Uh, same thing.

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Speaker 1: Although there was a particular point where I felt really

521
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Speaker 1: bad because I'm not going to use your name. Topanga

522
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: started crying on the set because you couldn't get the

523
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Speaker 1: line the way Michael Jacobs want.

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Speaker 5: This is what this is what I will remember, Yes,

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Speaker 5: you will remembered this. When we did the recap of

526
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Speaker 5: the episode, he was like, Danielle, don't you remember this?

527
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Speaker 5: And I was like, what are you talking about? And

528
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Speaker 5: he was like, you cried in front of everybody.

529
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Speaker 1: I felt so bad, like you know, you know, it's

530
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Speaker 1: like I killed her.

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Speaker 7: I they may have been your words, but I don't

532
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Speaker 7: think you were the one insisting I say it exactly

533
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Speaker 7: the way you wanted it, right.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Michael, yeah, push pushing it at

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Speaker 1: that time. I don't know what you know, he wasn't directing, But.

536
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Speaker 5: There's a fine line between the director and Michael Jacobs.

537
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Speaker 1: But you still you still you're a writer. As a writer,

538
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Speaker 1: you stay back, you don't participate. I remember when I

539
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Speaker 1: did maybe this time, and Marie Osmond is the sweetest

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Speaker 1: person in the world. Betty White was just the consummate pro.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I remember standing on seid. I would always write in

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Speaker 1: lines for myself that I could do off screen, like

544
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Speaker 1: a radio broadcast or something like that, because I could

545
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Speaker 1: get scale, you know, for just doing it. And Bob

546
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Speaker 1: Yam also told me stop doing that.

547
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Speaker 2: So just doing voice over the whole time, just saying

548
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Speaker 2: Kelly and Casey over and.

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Speaker 3: Over again, pretty much pretty much.

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Speaker 1: And luckily I didn't have any more kids, because you know,

551
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have to stay writing the Uh. Marie asked me.

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Speaker 1: I was standing to the side when I was doing

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Speaker 1: during rehearsal where I would I would do. I think

554
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Speaker 1: it was a race. There was a horse race, and

555
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Speaker 1: I was doing the character of the sportscaster. Uh and

556
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Speaker 1: play by playing and uh, Marie come Ben's talks to

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Speaker 1: me on the side. She leans over and she said,

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Speaker 1: how should I say this LINEH to a writer who's

559
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Speaker 1: working there. First of all, you'd never tell anybody to

560
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Speaker 1: set how to say rhyme. That's really all horrible. But

561
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Speaker 1: the director was watching her talking to me and I

562
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Speaker 1: got and I didn't answer. I didn't answer. I think,

563
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Speaker 1: should you know, uh, you could talk to Bob you know, whoever.

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Speaker 5: Whoever was directing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but that was an interesting experience because that

566
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Speaker 1: was a great cast too at that point at the time,

567
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Speaker 1: they really I forget who the young girl's name was

568
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Speaker 1: on that. I love her. She did a lot, a

569
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Speaker 1: lot of work. But the Johnson job.

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Speaker 4: I just spoke to Ashley not too long ago. She's wonderful.

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Speaker 1: Oh, if you ever run into her again, I love

572
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Speaker 1: her mother or sister. I mean, just you know, great, great,

573
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Speaker 1: that's the thing when you do a show, you and here,

574
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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a writer. I'm not down on the set.

575
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm in the writer's room. But there still ended up

576
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: being some sort of familyness that forms with everybody. And

577
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Speaker 1: you know that show that that show had, you know,

578
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Speaker 1: it was quite the family. Even though we you know,

579
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Speaker 1: the first of all, the title was horrible. It was

580
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 1: made for critics. Maybe this time, you know what I mean,

581
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Speaker 1: just it was we tried to change beforehand. Can we

582
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Speaker 1: get up with a better uh name? But that's what

583
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Speaker 1: we ended ended up with. And you know, I mean

584
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Speaker 1: this show. I mean it was going opposite Jack and

585
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Speaker 1: you know, I I don't know if it would have

586
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Speaker 1: lasted anyway, but it was a really nice experience because

587
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Speaker 1: people friends of Betty would come in all the time,

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Speaker 1: and you know, Carol Channing calling me over. Oh man,

589
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Speaker 1: I still have the script. They all signed it. She

590
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Speaker 1: knew that I wrote the script and she started talking

591
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Speaker 1: to me about, you know, the script, and it was

592
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Speaker 1: funny and all that. And all I'm thinking is Carol

593
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Speaker 1: Channing sounds just.

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Speaker 5: Like herself, so much like Carol chan Yeah, I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was so I never got over being

596
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Speaker 1: in awe of these great people who were around. There

597
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Speaker 1: are plenty of people I have disdained for, but I'm

598
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Speaker 1: talking about just the experience, experience that you know the

599
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 1: people when you run into these people. And Betty became

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Speaker 1: the reason that I published my first book.

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Speaker 5: And which was what's the name your first book?

602
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:05,800
Speaker 1: Great Failures of the Extremely Successful Why. I interviewed many

603
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Speaker 1: high profile people on the traumas they went through in

604
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Speaker 1: their life, and overcame them, uh Arn Brockovich, Teddy Pendergrass,

605
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Speaker 1: uh Tony Curtis, John Wooden, I mean, but but it

606
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:31,240
Speaker 1: was her, Larry, Larry Gilberts exactly. He became a mentor

607
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: of mine. He sent me over to his publisher and

608
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to go into the long story, but

609
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Speaker 1: it was something I wrote, wrote for Written by magazine

610
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Speaker 1: that he thought was a book. I said, and I'd

611
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 1: never written a book. I don't know how to, you know,

612
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about He said, I'm sending you

613
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Speaker 1: over to my publisher. And I did not have a

614
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Speaker 1: what I wrote. They said, well, we're looking for something

615
00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 1: that's a little more uplifting and you know, hopefully some

616
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, that can help people. And I said, I

617
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 1: have an idea, and I interviewed Betty White. I said, Betty,

618
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: would your mind if I would interview the subject? And

619
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Speaker 1: they bought it right on her chapter. And so I

620
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Speaker 1: became an author, you know, basically, you know, because of

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Speaker 1: Betty White.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I have to so my friends here, my

623
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 2: fellow co hosts, know how addicted I am to mash

624
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Speaker 2: It's one of It's basically the reason I became an actor.

625
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Speaker 4: So can you just what was it like working with

626
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Speaker 4: Larry gelbart.

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Speaker 1: Well? First, of all, I wrote an article. It's written

628
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Speaker 1: by magazine still out there. You know it's the Writer's Guild.

629
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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, magazine, I think ye. Actually, okay, I was.

630
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Speaker 1: I was contributing editor there and I wrote I wrote

631
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Speaker 1: a story. Uh you know, as I was getting older

632
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: and you know, there was ages, and so I wrote

633
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Speaker 1: an article that, uh, I'm not a young television writer,

634
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: but I played one on TV. It was all. It

635
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: was a chapter from a book called You'll Never Write

636
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: in This Town Again, And in it I gave examples

637
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Speaker 1: of how to fool executive producers into thinking that you

638
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Speaker 1: were younger. And I would say, like, when you pitch

639
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Speaker 1: an idea, and make sure you do it laying on

640
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: the floor so the moose skin from the front of

641
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: your face would fall to the back of your head.

642
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: And always always be close enough to the desk that

643
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: you could sit like this as you're discussing, so they

644
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 1: don't see your neck. The idea, the idea was. It

645
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: was all farce. I put nobody's name in there except one.

646
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: I said, never put any award that was prior to

647
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Speaker 1: two thousand on your resume, Oscar, Emmy, Tony, whatever, unless

648
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Speaker 1: you're Larry Gilbert. I did that because I knew Larry

649
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Speaker 1: would read it, and he did get in contact with me.

650
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Speaker 1: And let me just tell you, I teach a lot

651
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Speaker 1: of business classes and leadership and all. I talk a

652
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Speaker 1: lot about mentors. So I talk a lot about Larry

653
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Speaker 1: because I heard him speak at at a w G

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Speaker 1: A thing and I went like, he's great and I

655
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Speaker 1: want to get to know him. Uh. He gave his

656
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Speaker 1: time to me all the time. It was such, he

657
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: was such a manch so and the fact that he

658
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: was here, I'm going to age it out here because

659
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: he was part of the Sid Caesar legacy. Your show,

660
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: Your show shows and and and all the brilliant writers

661
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 1: that were on that show mel Brooks and and Neil

662
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 1: Simon and uh even Woody Allen was writing there one year.

663
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: To me, it was like, oh my god, that's you know,

664
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: I'm so close to genius here. Uh. Not not that

665
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: I was getting closer. I just meant I was physical proximity.

666
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, he's a wonderful He was a wonderful person.

667
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 4: Amazing.

668
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 5: Getting back to your time on Boy Meets World, you

669
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 5: were on set for the tape night where I burst

670
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 5: into tears in front of everybody. Did you get to

671
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 5: spend the entire week in the writer's room, because we've

672
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 5: we've interviewed some other writers that were freelance writers and

673
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 5: they never even made it to set at all. Did

674
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Speaker 5: your relationship with Bob give you the opportunity to be

675
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 5: inside the writer's room?

676
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: Yeah? I got to be in the writer's room. I've

677
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: got I got the pitch during the show, I cheated

678
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:40,360
Speaker 1: and Bob cheated. That's so great and letting me be

679
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: part of it, and down for the table read and

680
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 1: the and the end going up for the rewrites and

681
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: you know, you know, even you guys did the show,

682
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: uh that I wasn't part of, and I was on.

683
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: I came in and I just you know, was on

684
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:03,280
Speaker 1: the stage and there was one discussion and I mentioned

685
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: the line to Bob. I said, why don't you try this?

686
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,120
Speaker 1: And he actually put it in the show, and you know,

687
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: and so I didn't get paid for.

688
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 5: That should retroactive.

689
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 1: But the line was, oh, I can't remember what the

690
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: line was, but I was going back to if you're

691
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,919
Speaker 1: talking about line uh the book that I wrote about

692
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: learning from failure and mistakes, etcetera, etcetera, And and if

693
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: you want to do something, If you have a passion

694
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: to do it, you should do it, no matter what

695
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: parents say, no matter what coaches saying. Oh, this is

696
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 1: a true story. When Beethoven was just a young child,

697
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: he was told that he could never play music because

698
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 1: he was deaf. But did he listen? I feel like

699
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm on your couch. I don't know

700
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: if he listened. It was a long time ago.

701
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 5: I did writing for a family sitcom hold any weight

702
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 5: among your comedy peers? Or did you try to hide

703
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:09,479
Speaker 5: that job?

704
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: You know, it seems like I'm kissing up here constantly.

705
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 1: But you guys, such a It's a great show and

706
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: a wonderful cast. And by the way, I thought Ben

707
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: Savage was going to become the next Albert Brooks. I

708
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: really thought his delivery and a lot of deadpan and

709
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: all that stuff. He seemed to have that sense that

710
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 1: Albert Books was one of my is one of my idols.

711
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: So you know that it didn't feel like a family show.

712
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: It felt like a classic show. So I mean, what

713
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: did I watch? I had to watch a lot of

714
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 1: shows because I was going to end up writing, because

715
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,240
Speaker 1: I wrote a lot of family shows, and that would happen.

716
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 1: But my my thing satire and political humor and and

717
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 1: you know, really things that you I wrote. I wrote,

718
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: was it me and the boys? Oh no, it was

719
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: the smart guy. I wrote a smart guy. And every

720
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 1: time I would come into a show, I would pitch,

721
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: usually that the one of the kids got drunk, or

722
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Speaker 1: one of the kids was found with a gun, or

723
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: one of the kids. I always always pitched basically.

724
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Speaker 5: You wanted to write a very special episode.

725
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: Exactly, And I pitched this one where Taj, Yeah, Taj

726
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: got drunk at a party.

727
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 5: I mean, here's the episode.

728
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 1: Never too young, Yes he was either twelve or thirteen

729
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: years old and all that stuff. And everybody went, no, no, no,

730
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: we're not going to put Taje in that situation. I

731
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: get a phone call at the beginning of the next

732
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: season that's remember that pitch that you made, come in,

733
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 1: We're going to do it. And it was. It was

734
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: because the I don't know if it was a Biden administration,

735
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 1: but whatever they wanted ANTII drinking, anti gun type messages

736
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 1: and they would pay the networks for it. And uh

737
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: so I got called in to write the script and

738
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: an actual edgy script, and I won the not the

739
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: amount I was nominated for you man a tanas You

740
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: didn't pronounce it right, okay, but you said, but you

741
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: used all the letters there exactly humaniti something like that.

742
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: I was nominated for that, and I and I won

743
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,319
Speaker 1: another award for writing that because it was you know,

744
00:42:55,840 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 1: real life uh stuff, So I got to write, you know,

745
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,160
Speaker 1: other things than just faun and I wrote for Sybil.

746
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: And I don't think that was a family show. Yeah,

747
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: that was more of an you know, adults get to

748
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: watch the shows too.

749
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Speaker 4: Can I.

750
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: When you were doing Moreman World, how old were your

751
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 2: kids were they of of t G if watching age?

752
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,839
Speaker 1: No, they were younger than that. That's why I could.

753
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 2: You know.

754
00:43:26,239 --> 00:43:30,439
Speaker 1: I once put them and my whole family on eBay, uh,

755
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: to sell the family. Yeah, and I took them, by

756
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: the way. I pitched that as a show too.

757
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 5: But we actually the dad sells his family on eBay.

758
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: Yes, I did that too, And it was back when

759
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 1: people weren't doing that, and they were like four and

760
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 1: five at the time, so they couldn't really figure out.

761
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: And that's about this time. Uh okay, they they didn't

762
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: know except today it's like there's a picture of my

763
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 1: daughter when she was an infant in Betty White's arms

764
00:44:06,840 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: and she never thought anything about it. She said, when

765
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: she went to college and she showed it, everybody went crazy.

766
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: It was a great conversation starter because I think Betty

767
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: ended up doing SNL and they did that commercial where

768
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: she changed into another person by eating a certain candypark. Anyway,

769
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: so they were younger. But believe me, she can't wait

770
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:33,879
Speaker 1: to tell all her friends I'm doing this.

771
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 8: Oh oh, So as a big comedy nerd growing up,

772
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 8: you watched Carson's Tonight Show religiously and then you end

773
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 8: up writing the Tonight Show with Jay Leno.

774
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 5: That must have been quite a moment for you.

775
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 1: It was kind of cool. First of all, Jay worked

776
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 1: for me for a number of years, so I guess

777
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: it was a little bit of you know, payback.

778
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, a little full circle swittering exactly.

779
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 1: And the thing is it was monologue writing, so it

780
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 1: was really what happened that day or whatever, and you know,

781
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:14,319
Speaker 1: you give about you pitch about five hundred jokes and

782
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: they go that one's good, you know. So it wasn't

783
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 1: exactly where you sit there and go, hey, this is

784
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: just a wonderful environment where my creativity is looked on

785
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: as broken it was. And as I said before, what

786
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: you had to write for Jay is nowhere near as

787
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: funny as he was. And yeah, in the club person

788
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: you would be double over for an hour and a

789
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 1: such a mechanic. He just knew. He still knows how

790
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: to make it work. On the tonight show, he was

791
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: working to a very watered down audience. Yeah, and that's

792
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do.

793
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 4: But you're still doing.

794
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,759
Speaker 2: Man, you're starting just I'm thinking comedically, every single night

795
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 2: is a new five minute bit. Yeah much for them

796
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:02,879
Speaker 2: on I mean that's oh yeah crazy, that's when you're

797
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 2: you're thinking about it from a comic standpoint, that's just nuts.

798
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,000
Speaker 3: And how big would the writing stuff be? How many

799
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 3: how many writers would be sitting around right now?

800
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: Well, there are a lot of inside outside writers. When

801
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: when I was writing, I was an outside writer, and

802
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: I would, you know, every day, be sending the stuff

803
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 1: in and he would go over his house with a

804
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: bunch of people and go through all the material and

805
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: see what they would use. So you know, they were

806
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 1: about twelve writers. Twelve writers at any time, I mean

807
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: with you guys, there were about ten writers. Yeah, you know,

808
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 1: and still you figure all those writers and all those rewrites,

809
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: you would figure something good would come out of it.

810
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, such a shame.

811
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,400
Speaker 1: By the way I looked, I did a little cheating.

812
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 1: So I went back and looked at shows, and then

813
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: I looked with somebody had put I think you guys

814
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 1: did one hundred and fifty six shows something like that,

815
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: and I think Uncle Daddy is like twelve or something

816
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: like that rated. So I felt really good about that.

817
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, people loved it.

818
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 5: People love that episode. It's a great one.

819
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:16,439
Speaker 1: It was so real, and it was based on I think,

820
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: you know, in part about my life. You know, you

821
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 1: date somebody with kids, and you know you have to. Hey,

822
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,480
Speaker 1: so how you doing there, buddy Pale? You know, right right?

823
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: And so you tried to in this case, you tried

824
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 1: to write it the way it should be, not the way.

825
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 1: But it was wonderful right up to the last second

826
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 1: that the kid could have been murdered. But you know,

827
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: everything up to that was just so sweet, just so right,

828
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: exactly what you should do. And I really did, you know,

829
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: I didn't get along. I like the kids better than

830
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 1: I like the girl, you know, I mean, when you

831
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: meet them, it's kind of it's kind of fun to

832
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: play with the young kids and all. And yeah, I

833
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,359
Speaker 1: made a lot of a lot of it. I had

834
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: a lot of experiences with children as part of a

835
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,800
Speaker 1: you know, a family that wasn't your family.

836
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 5: Did you end up also, did that relationship end and

837
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 5: you decided that it wasn't for you to have kids

838
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 5: at that time?

839
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: Oh? At that time, Oh yeah, I mean I I

840
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 1: was not taking so off. I was stressed over everything.

841
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,440
Speaker 1: I've been sober for thirty five years. Not that I was,

842
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, it's horrible drunk or anything like that, but

843
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: I drank and it wasn't doing any good. And so

844
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: at that time I was not making commitments to anybody.

845
00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: I could be charming, or at least I thought I

846
00:48:51,120 --> 00:48:54,760
Speaker 1: was right. You know, when you're drinking, you don't exactly

847
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: know if you're charming, right, you think you are. But

848
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: at the same time, later on I stopped drinking, you know,

849
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: and everything, and that's when I ended up getting married

850
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: in and and reversing the visecond.

851
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: And then you had children or you just bought your

852
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 4: family anybay.

853
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I would have done that if I would

854
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: have known. That saved a lot of money.

855
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 5: So when did you decide to start writing books?

856
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: Well, it was when when our show Maybe This Time

857
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: was we got the word that it was going on

858
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: affair and and uh, I said to somebody. Somebody said

859
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: you should write a book, and I said, I do

860
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: not write a book. They said you would write what

861
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: you know, and I said, well, I'm really good at failure.

862
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: I've practiced it for years, I know. And and that

863
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: became you.

864
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,760
Speaker 5: Know, that became your first book, Yeah, Betty.

865
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: Then there were a couple of children's shows I pitched

866
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: and did not sell. Oh when I saw the Disney channel. Uh,

867
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,840
Speaker 1: and they gave it back to me after they ruined

868
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: it by giving it to an executive producer who didn't

869
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: get it. It was about a boy who could go back

870
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 1: in time, but only fifteen seconds. That's all he could do.

871
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 1: And sometimes he would go back in time the watch

872
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,080
Speaker 1: he was where and would do it without him. No,

873
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes, I'm sorry, fifteen minutes, go back in time.

874
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 1: And I wrote it as a book, sold it to

875
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,640
Speaker 1: HarperCollins because we weren't able to make it there. Then

876
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: I wrote another book for HarperCollins, and then I had

877
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 1: a thing with Larry David and U show. No. It

878
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:39,880
Speaker 1: was a conversation with Larry David that we were I

879
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: was going to do an article on him, and it's

880
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: too long the story to tell. But I ended up

881
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,959
Speaker 1: writing it into a book and it's called the Larry

882
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: David Code, and it's how Larry Saves the world.

883
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,919
Speaker 5: But I mean, and that's the Larry David we all

884
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 5: know and love, or is this a different version of

885
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:58,719
Speaker 5: Larry David.

886
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: That's interesting because if you would read the preface of

887
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: the book, it does explain that there is a Larry

888
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: David who was very successful, very popular, very attractive man.

889
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: This is not this Larry. Uh. This Larry David is

890
00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: very similar to that Larry David. But it's not that

891
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 1: Larry David. And I have written notes to all of

892
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: my attorneys to let them know.

893
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 5: Let them know it's a totally different.

894
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,240
Speaker 1: And I didn't. I didn't. I put in my drawer

895
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:33,959
Speaker 1: for years, and I showed it to Richard Lewis, who

896
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: was a friend, and he said, you gotta you gotta

897
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,160
Speaker 1: publish it. I said, well, Larry might get upset it

898
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:41,880
Speaker 1: screw Larry, you know.

899
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,479
Speaker 4: And wasn't he Larry's best friend too?

900
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:45,399
Speaker 1: Yeah?

901
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 3: Richard Lewis.

902
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, it wasn't different. Richard Lewis too, Yeah.

903
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 5: Very another very good looking, very successful.

904
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, there are there are. There are plenty of

905
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: them in the book, and coincidentally, all with similar names to.

906
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 5: Some very I mean, we've named three Steve Young's on

907
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 5: this podcast alone, and there are others.

908
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:16,359
Speaker 1: My son represented Steve Young, a country singer. Oh and

909
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: I got a check of his at one time too.

910
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 5: And did you want to be you or did you

911
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 5: want to be him?

912
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: He was better than me.

913
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, you wanted to be him.

914
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: They're all better than me.

915
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 5: So you have also taught writing at Temple. You were

916
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 5: a political radio host. You are a bit of a

917
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 5: renaissance man.

918
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,640
Speaker 1: I was a political on air America. And keep in

919
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,399
Speaker 1: mind how well America did so I'm sure that both

920
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: of my listeners were devastated when we ended. But yeah

921
00:52:52,760 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 1: I did that. I was political editor of National Lampoon

922
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: for a while. That was fun. That was because National

923
00:52:58,360 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: Lampoon was a big deal for me when I was

924
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: when I was a kid. But yeah, I told you,

925
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: I did as much as I could because I couldn't

926
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: do anything well. And it was really you know, as

927
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,320
Speaker 1: it came in front of me, because like, I flunked

928
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: out of four different colleges without ever getting a credit,

929
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: so that was a lot.

930
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:20,799
Speaker 5: How does one do that?

931
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:24,000
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting. I flunked out the first year and

932
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: then I went and they said, you have to go

933
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: back to night school to uh to get back into

934
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 1: the day school. And people said, you can't flunk night school.

935
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: That's like a possibility. So I took it as a

936
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: challenge and I ended up flunking out.

937
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 4: Were you just not going? I mean, that's the only

938
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 4: way to flunk out of night school.

939
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: I went and I took a public speaking course and

940
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: I funked it there. I I found out later that

941
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: I had a learning disability and so I couldn't retain

942
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: any information and that that was it. Then I went

943
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: in the army and I and I flunked out of

944
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,799
Speaker 1: the army. They said, I think we would be better

945
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: if you would.

946
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 3: You would not be here anymore, and so I went

947
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: back to the surge country by getting out of the army.

948
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, So, by the way, that's why the book

949
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: learning you know, Great Failures, That's what popped up in

950
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 1: my mind because there were so many times that things

951
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: didn't work, and then it led to something else. I

952
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: mean even that. I wrote a movie that some very

953
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 1: heavyweight producers took around town. Did not sell, but my

954
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: agent called me up and said, there's a scene in

955
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,800
Speaker 1: there that I think would make a great, uh sitcom

956
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: for kids, and we sold it to the Disney Channel.

957
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: So there it is. The movie didn't work, but we

958
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 1: sold the TV show. TV show then didn't work. They

959
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,359
Speaker 1: gave it to me. I wrote, it is a book.

960
00:54:56,280 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: The book. The actually book worked, and somebody bought it

961
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 1: as a play, you know. I mean, it's just what happens.

962
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: If you're just doing and doing, you end up running

963
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: into something that you would have never expected if you

964
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: didn't take the action. Oh look, I'm lecturing.

965
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 4: That right, and I already funked out. I already flunked

966
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 4: out of your fund.

967
00:55:17,719 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to send a magnet that put on your refrigerator.

968
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 5: Our last question for you. You have had a very long,

969
00:55:27,360 --> 00:55:31,560
Speaker 5: fulfilling career in so many different fields. Is there still

970
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 5: anything out there left that you want to do?

971
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 1: Oh? Let me tell you, I discovered a stand up

972
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 1: approach after all these years, about eight or nine years ago,

973
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,439
Speaker 1: nobody at the club owners tell me. Nobody has ever

974
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: done it. I've never seen that I've done. Many other

975
00:55:56,600 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: comedians have told me. But it's something that I do now,

976
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: and I'm better than I ever was. So I'm in

977
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:09,800
Speaker 1: my seventies and yet I now can get on stage

978
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: as a headliner and literally kill because they're not. What

979
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: I do is I watch every other comic and then

980
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: I do their material again because I say, I say

981
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: at the beginning, I wrote material for tonight, but theirs

982
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:28,960
Speaker 1: is so much better than mine. I'm just going to

983
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 1: do theirs again. And what I've done during the night

984
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 1: is watch them and change their the jokes. I change them.

985
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 1: I make them really absurd and just totally off the wall,

986
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: but I use them as the starting point. And I've

987
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: only gotten I've only gotten beaten up a couple of times.

988
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was gonna say that. Said that, I bet

989
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 4: comedians love that. That's what they're known for. It's like,

990
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 4: you know, my favorite thing is when I tell a

991
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,360
Speaker 4: joke and then another comedian tells the same one.

992
00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 5: A little bit better and different than somebody.

993
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: You know, what I like to do is tell it

994
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: before they go on. That's smart. There is only a

995
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: couple comedians who I've ever said, Uh No, it's it's

996
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,720
Speaker 1: because I think it's a fun thing. And it's because

997
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: I'm not making a lot of money on their material.

998
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: And I tell them, if you like what I did

999
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 1: with it, you take that that's yours. Oh you know,

1000
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: it's just so fun to do. And I sit there

1001
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: and I sit there every night and I'm writing, and

1002
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm at the beginning it's like it's not

1003
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 1: gonna work. It's not gonna work. And then all of

1004
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: a sudden, but I spend most of the time turning

1005
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,439
Speaker 1: them my girlfriend and saying, what do you say?

1006
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:38,240
Speaker 5: I can't hear.

1007
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 3: I think this is really that's really cool. It's it

1008
00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 3: makes it that it has to be live. That's what

1009
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:48,920
Speaker 3: I like about it, is like, that's why the audience

1010
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 3: on the audience must love it because they are you

1011
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 3: clearly couldn't have written this ahead of time. And so

1012
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 3: it's like getting back to what stand up should be,

1013
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 3: which is a live experience. And we do this with

1014
00:57:57,960 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 3: our live shows too. The less we play, the more

1015
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,160
Speaker 3: we just walk out on stage and engage with our audience,

1016
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: the better at night.

1017
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: It is.

1018
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 3: So that's such a cool it's like a cool tightrope

1019
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 3: walk that you're doing.

1020
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,640
Speaker 1: I really and thank you And isn't it when you

1021
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 1: do things live when the audience is with you, don't

1022
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: your minds move faster?

1023
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: And doing this is why you go out and you know,

1024
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,400
Speaker 3: that's what we want from comedy. In today's world, everything

1025
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 3: is you know, online or you know. We're all isolated

1026
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 3: in our own little doing meetings like this, you know,

1027
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 3: so the idea of like getting out into a room

1028
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 3: and listening and being a part of a group is

1029
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 3: just getting lost on us.

1030
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: At the same time, I cannot send out a tape

1031
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 1: of mind and anybody would know what I was doing, right, right, right.

1032
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: I have my own too, and that's fine too. But

1033
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: the thing that makes me different is doing the other

1034
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: people's material, and unfortunately that puts me in a hole.

1035
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 1: But you know what, I'm at a point in my

1036
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: life where I'm not sitting there and going, oh, let

1037
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 1: me get on failing, right, right.

1038
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 3: Right, get invited to the couch.

1039
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 4: That's the best.

1040
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 2: Well, when you when you also when you when you

1041
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: write your book about failing part two, I hope you

1042
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 2: start with us.

1043
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: Well, I will agree the show that Danielle did and

1044
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 1: thank you got for the tears. I wish I could remember.

1045
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:20,240
Speaker 1: I know you were making a speech.

1046
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 5: It's at the very end.

1047
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,880
Speaker 3: It's the tag running for class president or something.

1048
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1049
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 3: No, it's like Corey is running for president. You end

1050
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 3: up taking over the debate or something. I forget what.

1051
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: Everybody was running for president.

1052
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's the tag. It's the very last scene of

1053
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,440
Speaker 5: the show. So if you go back and watch it,

1054
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 5: and Will even I mean I said I wanted to

1055
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:41,840
Speaker 5: rewatch it because Will said he could even see it

1056
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 5: in my eyes.

1057
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 4: I can't. I can see that I've been covering.

1058
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, my husband said he could see it too.

1059
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: Yeah that's great. It's not so great, but.

1060
00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 5: No, it's great. I love it. Steve, Thank you so

1061
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 5: much for coming and spending your time with us. Thank

1062
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,920
Speaker 5: your daughter Kelly for letting us use her house and

1063
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 5: her name, and Casey, I really have enjoyed spending a

1064
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 5: bit of time with you. It makes sense now that

1065
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 5: we didn't really get to know you because you were

1066
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 5: only on our set for two weeks, so it's been

1067
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 5: a pleasure to get to know you a little bit now.

1068
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I'm glad, you know. I'm so pleased that

1069
01:00:14,320 --> 01:00:16,240
Speaker 1: I was part of it because when people talk about

1070
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:18,240
Speaker 1: what are you show? I wrote something for Hbolay is

1071
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: very proud of for little kids. But your show is

1072
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:23,920
Speaker 1: the one that I always think when I get introduced

1073
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 1: it is a writer for Boy Meets World. That's the

1074
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: first credit that they give. And now a lot of

1075
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 1: the audience is, I don't remember that show.

1076
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:38,520
Speaker 5: I'm too old for that.

1077
01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yes, my parents told me.

1078
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where we are.

1079
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: Ye.

1080
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 1: I give you as the credit. I'm tolled that I

1081
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 1: could have been part of it.

1082
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 5: Where can people find you so they know where to

1083
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 5: go see you in a city near them.

1084
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,560
Speaker 1: The Larry David code dot.

1085
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 5: Com Great the Larry davidcode dot Com.

1086
01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 2: To find Steve David, I'll find a different Larry David

1087
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,120
Speaker 2: different by the way.

1088
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Speaker 1: I do not. I'm really that on up keep, so

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Speaker 1: a lot of my appearances in two thousand and fifteen

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Speaker 1: and sixteen may still be on there. So I don't

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Speaker 1: know it. You know, Okay, check the date.

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Speaker 4: Check the date.

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Speaker 5: Okay, before you buy tickets, check the date at the

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Speaker 5: Larry davidcove dot com. Thank you Steve for being with

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Speaker 5: us today.

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Speaker 3: Guys, appreciate good to see you.

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Speaker 1: Bye bye.

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Speaker 5: It's so great that he for doing when he did

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Speaker 5: the two episodes, actually got to spend the entire week

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Speaker 5: on zet unlike a lot of other freelance.

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Speaker 3: Are funny because he actually has more memories than some

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Speaker 3: people who are on multi.

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Speaker 2: How about some confirmation for you, Birsty.

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Speaker 5: Well, I didn't need it. I knew for sure. If

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Speaker 5: we'll remembered it, it happened, and writer remembered it vaguely right.

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Speaker 3: It was like, yeah, once you pointed out, I was like,

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Speaker 3: that's right, and I can tell you because I remember

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Speaker 3: the fact that we changed the credit and all that

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Speaker 3: was in a way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's also the people that he's worked with, I mean,

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Speaker 2: just the names that he's spouting out there. I would

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Speaker 2: also officially like to ask that we try. It'll never happen,

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Speaker 2: but we try to get Jim Carrey to come on

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Speaker 2: the podcast.

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Speaker 5: Why would you Carry come on our podcast?

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Speaker 2: Let's find out why would My dad always says the

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Speaker 2: worst thing people can say is no, you might as

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Speaker 2: well just ask.

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Speaker 5: Then find him.

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Speaker 4: Well, I don't know how to find Jim Carry come

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Speaker 4: on the podcast.

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Speaker 5: The Jim Carrey dot Com to the Jim Carrey Jim

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Speaker 5: Jim to a.

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Speaker 3: Very interesting moment the last couple years on Well, then

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Speaker 3: let's find out if maybe it's interesting in this sort

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Speaker 3: of like Buddhist present tense constant. He's like a very

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Speaker 3: interesting guy lately, so let's try to get him on one.

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Speaker 5: My favorite, my favorite recent Jim Carrey quote was they

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Speaker 5: asked him why he was coming back for Sonic, and

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Speaker 5: he was like, I spend a lot of money.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we can get it. I'm telling you, we can get.

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Speaker 5: We can get them.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I just know how hard so many of our

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Speaker 3: writers had to work like these stories. It's just the

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Speaker 3: constant hustle. It's like, yeah, and like you have to

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Speaker 3: manage the club or own the club, even to just

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Speaker 3: get your own five minutes, and then you have to

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Speaker 3: just hang out. Like I mean, the way that he

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Speaker 3: must have spent every night of his life backstage with

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Speaker 3: a group of comedians trying to make each other laugh,

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Speaker 3: trying to maintain enough of an impression to get paid

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Speaker 3: to get hired the next It's like such a hustle.

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Speaker 4: It's so much work. He's also running a business. He

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Speaker 4: also owns the club. That's what you got that so

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Speaker 4: much work.

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Speaker 3: I just you just have to have that, like I'm

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Speaker 3: always going to be making people laugh and I can't stop,

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Speaker 3: Like I just always you know, like what an engine

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Speaker 3: to always have inside of you. I just it's crazy.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, it's so cool.

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Speaker 5: Well, thank you all for joining us for this episode

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Speaker 5: of Podmeets World. As always, you can follow us on

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Speaker 5: Instagram pod Meets World Show. You can send us your

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Speaker 5: emails pod meets World Show at gmail dot com, and

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Speaker 2: Podmeats World would like to personally apologize to the Olive

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Speaker 2: Garden merch.

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Speaker 5: Also a reminder, we the kids still want to jump.

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Speaker 5: We are on tour. You can go to podmeetsworldshow dot

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Speaker 5: of all the dates. So we hope to see you

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Speaker 5: out there. We love you all. Pod dismissed. Pod Meets

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Speaker 5: superfan Easton Allen. Our theme song is by Kyle Morton

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