1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast, your home for 2 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:11,479 Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Weird to Hunt podcast. I'm 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: your host, Mark Kenyon, and this is episode number thirteen. 5 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 1: Today we're heading behind the scenes of Drury Outdoors, Mark 6 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: and Terry Dreuries, mega successful outdoor TV and video production company, 7 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: and joining us is Matt Dury, the brand manager for 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Dury Outdoors, to discuss how his dad and uncle have 9 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,720 Speaker 1: become such accomplished hunters and what it takes to produce 10 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: some of the world's greatest hunting videos. I think you 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: guys are really going to like this one, so relax 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: and enjoy. All right, Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. 13 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: Here's me as always is my nine finger brother from 14 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,560 Speaker 1: Another Mode or Dan Johnson, and with us today also 15 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: is a very special guest, Matt Drewy. Welcome to the show. Matt, 16 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 1: Thank you, thanks for having me only guys, I appreciate it. Yeah, absolutely, 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: we're excited to to chat white tails with you and 18 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: chat about Dreury Outdoors and everything. And as we mentioned 19 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: in the show intro, you know you're the brand manager 20 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: for Dury outdoors and also the son of Terry Drewy, 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,400 Speaker 1: And over the course of the next minutes or so, 22 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, we're hoping to dive deep into you know, 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: what it was like growing up in that family surrounded 24 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: by successful white tail hunters, and then also what it 25 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: takes to you know, create successful hunting videos and TV. 26 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: But first here on the Watered Hunt podcast, we'd like 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: to kick things off with a curveball, and so I'm 28 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: going to have to ask my sidekick Dan to step 29 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: up to the mound and fire away with his crazy 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: question of the day. Okay, Matt, Matt, are you ready? 31 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm ready? Okay. So all three of us have spent 32 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: a lot of time in a tree stand over a season, 33 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: and sometimes nature calls, okay, now, are you get down 34 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: out of the tree stand type of person? Or pe 35 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: in a bottle or let her fly from the tree stand? 36 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: Letter fly, let her fly from the tree stand. Man. 37 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: You know, a long time ago, Market and Dad, you know, 38 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: they used to be into you know, can't let your 39 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: scent get out and all that good stuff, And somewhere 40 00:02:26,840 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: along the line that they designed that it really didn't matter, 41 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 1: and they just you know, started going right there from 42 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: the side of the tree, and it hadn't effected their 43 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: hunting one bit. And you know, I figured, hey, if 44 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: these guys are successful at it, well I might as 45 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:46,080 Speaker 1: well follow suit. Nice. What about you, Dan? Oh you know, 46 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: I'm too lazy to get down on a tree stand, 47 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: so I got bad knees, so I let her fly. Ye, 48 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,679 Speaker 1: I'm right there with with you guys too. Um. I 49 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: remember I was convinced when I there was a big 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,160 Speaker 1: study that Deer and Deer Hunting magazine put out probably 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 1: five years ago, where they tested scrapes where they put 52 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: um deer or dear urine, they put some other random odors, 53 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: they put human urine and a few other things, and 54 00:03:10,760 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: then they were quarter of the trail cameras and other 55 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: observations how deer reacted to it, and dear to not 56 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: react negatively at all to human urine. So from that 57 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: point on, I let her rip. So yeah, that's you know, 58 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: I don't think it's you know, it's any different than 59 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: any other animal, you know, relieving themselves in the outdoor. 60 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't think it affects him. Yeah, 61 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: well it definitely. I'm glad that this is the case 62 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: because back when I was a kid and I to 63 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: use a bottle. That was kind of a pain in 64 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: the button. So this is this is the way to go, right. 65 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 1: I don't clean my truck out a lot. So I 66 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: remember one hunting season I appeared in the bottle. I 67 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: left my pack in the back of the truck, cleaned 68 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: it out maybe three months later. Yeah, I'm not doing 69 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: that again. There's a story, and IM gonna get in 70 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 1: trouble for tilling if the story goes back with this 71 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: is a long time ago Mark and Dad when they 72 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: actually because you know, for the longest time they hunted together, 73 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: and they they you know, they would film each other 74 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: and uh so every other day was hunter. You know 75 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,839 Speaker 1: Mark maybe the hunter one day, Terry the hunter you know, 76 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: the hunter the next day, and they'd switch off and on, 77 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: you know, to be fair, and uh one day I 78 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: think Mark threw down. You know, they'd always throw down 79 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: their packs. They always had this, you know, like a 80 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: Fannie pack that have all their gear and you know, 81 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: all the calls and innoculars and all that stuff. You 82 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: know they'd had packed in there, you know, rattling anglers 83 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: and at the end of the hunt, you know, of 84 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: course when you go up, you got it on at 85 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: the end of the hunt. A lot of times they 86 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: just throw it down and uh, you know, one last 87 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: thing to climb down with its Apparently Mark had a 88 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: picked few bottle in it and he threw it down 89 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: and it it exploded everywhere, so he forgot he had 90 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 1: it in there. So, oh jeez, that's no good. Well 91 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: we better start talking about white tails or something. Yeah, 92 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: we always we always get off on a tangent here 93 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: in the beginning. But okay, so with that out of 94 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: the way. You know, you grew up in a family 95 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 1: of you know, from the outside end, we'd look at 96 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: it as a family of white tail royalty. You know, 97 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: Terry Drewy as your dad and Mark as your uncle. Um, 98 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,440 Speaker 1: it seems like you grew up with some interesting things 99 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: happening around you and a lot of white tail hunting. 100 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: So I'm curious if you could tell us a little 101 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: bit about what it was. You know, what it was 102 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: like growing up with Terry as your dad. Um, you know, 103 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: what what was that like? And you know, was there 104 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: allowed pressure to get into white tail hunting or to 105 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: do this all the time? You know, how did that go? 106 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: It was interesting because when I was growing up. They 107 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: were just starting the company. You know, I would have 108 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 1: been I think they started started filming, and I was 109 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 1: born in eighty one, so I was pretty young still. 110 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 1: And um, you know, before before they started doing it 111 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 1: for the profession. Uh, you know, they hunted at a 112 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: local a local middle club. It was called the forty 113 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: Acre Club. You had have a forty acres that, you know, 114 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: to be a part of the club. And you know, 115 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: so a lot of my youngest memories are from over 116 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:15,920 Speaker 1: at the forty Acre Club, you know, and uh, going 117 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: over there with Dad and you know, he'd he'd always 118 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: stop and say, hey, do you remember what fields were? Now? 119 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: What you know where we are? Now? What's this field? 120 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: This is Bruce's cave, this is you know, the old 121 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: milk truck, blah blah blah. And so that those are 122 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: my youngest memories. And you know, and they started filming 123 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: and all that stuff. A lot of times I remember 124 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: just being just being with Dad and when they were 125 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,560 Speaker 1: filming the interviews and and you know, kind of the 126 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: Steine takes and all that stuff that would go in 127 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: between the hunts. I was just around because they filmed 128 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: a lot of that there in Bloomsdale, Missouri at the 129 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: forty Acre Club, and at the time evolved, they started 130 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: hunting more. You know, I think you know, started out 131 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 1: they were hunting turkeys, is how we started. And you know, 132 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: so they would they would hunt, you know, locally, but 133 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: they would hunt down in the Ozarks a lot. And 134 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: you know, I really was never on their trips with 135 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: him because they were just too young at the time 136 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: and and I got a little older, and they kind 137 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: of coincided when they were starting to get into the 138 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: to the deer side of it. I think ninety three 139 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 1: they released their first title. I think it was Monster Bucks. 140 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: I was before you know, I think the first they 141 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: had muster Bucks one and Monster Bucks two, and then 142 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: I believe Real Treat took it over from there. But um, 143 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, at that time I started, I think they 144 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: started hunting like Illinois, Iowa, you know, started knocking on doors. 145 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: And this was before all that stuff was really you know, 146 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: very big. In the early nineties was kind of the 147 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: beginning of the end, you know, late eighties, early nineties 148 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: was really the beginning of our industry. You know, it's 149 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: not a very old industry. So growing up, honestly, Dad 150 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: would be gone a lot. I I mean, he was 151 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: just gone a lot during the hunting season. So when 152 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: he was home, you know, I got my hunter's safety 153 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: course done and all that good stuff. And I can't 154 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: remember how old I was when I started hunting, but 155 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: it couldn't have been. It might have been whatever the 156 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: legal age, you know, in Missouria at the time, and 157 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: maybe it was, you know, I don't know, eleven twelve. 158 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: But I really can't remember how old I was. But uh, 159 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: we'd hunt behind the house. You know, Dad mom own 160 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: twenty four acres there, and you know, I had bugged 161 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: him so often to to build like a treehouse in 162 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: the backyard, you know, And so he did, is he 163 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: actually and he comes from a construction background, that's what 164 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: he does today. Still he's got a degree in civil 165 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: engineering and he has a construction company. So we went 166 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:49,559 Speaker 1: back there and he we started building a treehouse. Well 167 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: really it was technically probably our first block part. And uh, 168 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: you know, and he built it just far enough into 169 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: the woods where he cut out he cut out a hole. 170 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: It was funny because it had three walls to it 171 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:07,240 Speaker 1: and there was an open end. Well, I always got 172 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: stuck sitting on that open end where the air would 173 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: whipped through, and he always, you know, he always toughed 174 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: back in the corner of the three you know, the 175 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: three walls, and he cut himself out of hole that 176 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 1: was just big enough to put his binoculars in and 177 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: see up at the house and see if Mom was 178 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: making us breakfast. And you know, this was both four 179 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: cell phones and stuff, so you know, it was the 180 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: binoculars told us, okay, she's she's making breakfast. Let's get 181 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: down and you know, and back in those days, there 182 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: wasn't in our hometown. There just wasn't a lot of deer. 183 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: And I think they have got hit with blue tongue 184 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: and eighties or something like that, and they just didn't 185 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: have a big deer population. So we saw a deer, 186 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: two deer, three deer. That was a big day, you know. 187 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 1: So we'd sit out there and we'd have a good time, 188 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: and it was more about really it was honestly more 189 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: about making the memories together because we get out and 190 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 1: go get breakfast early. You know, I would be like 191 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: seven am. I was like, all right, let's get down. 192 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,840 Speaker 1: You know what, you weren't hunting too hard, um, And 193 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: it was it was a little while, so I actually 194 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:17,280 Speaker 1: started going on trips with him and you know, getting 195 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 1: a hunt at other places. So it took a long 196 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: time till actually killed my first year. I think I 197 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: was fifteen years old. I had hunted for like five 198 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: or six years, you know, until I killed my first year. 199 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: So not for lack of trying. Once we started going 200 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: on those trips out of town, we we just never 201 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: had It was weird. We just never had any luck. 202 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: It was always mishaps. It was the camera always saved 203 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: the deer's life. And getting back to your question about 204 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: if there was ever any pressure, you know, the camera 205 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: was a weird thing because I still to this day 206 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,360 Speaker 1: and never hunted without a camera guy with me. And 207 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: of course when I was growing up, Dad was the 208 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: camera guy growing up, you know, and they were trying 209 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: to make a living and a bit busness out of it. 210 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: So you didn't do anything as it pertained to hunting. 211 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: You didn't do anything that wasn't on camera. I mean, 212 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: if we were sighting in a gun, if we would 213 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: get anything, it was there was a camera president and 214 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 1: so you know, at the time, it was it was tough. 215 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: That was tough growing up kind of with those expectations, 216 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: and you know, as a kid and you're going through 217 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: pre puberty and all that stuff, it's the last thing 218 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 1: you want to do is I had a camera stuck 219 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,599 Speaker 1: in your face, and you know, we see it to 220 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: this we see it to this day. A lot of 221 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: the guys and our team when they killed their kids, 222 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: there's not in any of them that are very comfortable 223 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: on camera. And I just it always takes me back 224 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: because I know exactly the feeling, and you know, I 225 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: just it was tough going, you know, hunting in that 226 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: environment because I knew, you know, there was kind of 227 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: an obligation there. I didn't really know any different. I 228 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know what I still don't know what hunting 229 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: is like by myself. I just have never done it 230 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 1: because you know, at the end of the day, I 231 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: would never serve the purpose for me to just go 232 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: out and hunt alone. You know, That's that's not what 233 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: we're here to do, you know. So it's weird growing 234 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: up like that. I have too two kind of unique 235 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: views on what hunting and hunting heritage is. You know, 236 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: I think your average guy would be like man, that 237 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: would I would not want to grow up like that. 238 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: I like the serenity of outdoors and to be by myself, 239 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: and that's kind of how I center myself. But you know, 240 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: I look at it as if, you know, when I 241 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: go out there, even to this day, you know, Dad 242 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: and ILE hunt occasionally together. I'm always at his place, 243 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: but you know, usually he's got a camera guy and 244 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 1: I got a camera guy, and we're in different sets. 245 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: But I like, I like going with another guy. It's 246 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: it's fun. You know, you get it cut up. You know, 247 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: when you hunt as much as we do, it can 248 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 1: get so slow, and you know there's a lot of 249 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: times where you're just prinding it out, and you know 250 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: having another guy there within the tree kind of freshened 251 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 1: it up. And you know it's somebody to talk to 252 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: and your b s and and you know, it's kind 253 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: of like being back at camp when you've got a 254 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: bunch of guys. Well that's kind of the same mentality. 255 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: It's you know, you're talking, you're talks about stuff, guy 256 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: talk about. You know, you're having a good time, so 257 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: it kind of keeps things moving throughout the day and 258 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: you need that. So I don't know, it's uh, you know, 259 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: there's a it was it was good to grow grow 260 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: up that way. I learned a lot about the business 261 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:24,320 Speaker 1: and didn't even know it. But it also probably skewed 262 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: the way I view hunting a little bit. I'd say, yeah, yeah, 263 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: I can imagine. But to your point about you know, 264 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: there's being some fun having someone else in the tree. 265 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: I started hunting, you know, with my dad, and then 266 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 1: moved on hunting by myself, and then you know, when 267 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: I've come back to the point now we're we're I've 268 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: experienced now hunting with a cameraman. There's definitely pros and 269 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: cons to both that I found for me, But there's 270 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of fun, you know, having 271 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: someone else on the tree. You can share that experience 272 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: with you and talk about it and reminisce on it, 273 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: and um, you know, I've also found it to be 274 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: a lot of fun switching roles and just being the cameraman. Um, 275 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: that's a lot more fun. Thought. Yeah, yeah, that's well. 276 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 1: And that's how I started here, Drewy Outdoors. I mean, 277 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: I got I went to college and got a degree 278 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: in production and not and honestly not with the intentions 279 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: of working for these guys. I just you know, it's 280 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: kind of what. I went to college and started with 281 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: a graphic you know, kind of in the graphic design field, 282 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: and you know, kind of started feeling out what I 283 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: like to do. And I was best at production. And 284 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that the day Dad had pretty much 285 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: set me on my path from an early age and 286 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: I didn't know it. And you know, when I was 287 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: in college, I started interning for them, you know, during 288 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: spring break, winter break, summer break, and um, you know, 289 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: learned a lot here at the at the studio. I'd 290 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: get back to school and I'd be you know, i'd 291 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: be steps ahead of the guys in class just because 292 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: I was doing it in the real world, you know, 293 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: so to speak. So it really set me towards my 294 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: path in life. And when I when Mark he offered 295 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: me a job my last semester, I came home for 296 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: for a break and was working for him and he 297 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: had offered me a position and what modest pay, and uh, 298 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: I started editing for them, but I also started going 299 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: on trips with Mark and whoever and filming, you know, 300 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 1: filming as well. I was a camera guy, so I 301 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 1: learned a lot. You know. There really isn't any facet 302 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: of our company that I haven't done in one one 303 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: way or the other at some point. And I've been 304 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: here teen years, you know, since I graduated college. Yeah, 305 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: it sounds like some interesting experiences for sure. So so 306 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: taking a quick step back, you mentioned, um a little 307 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: bit about the spots you were hunting when you were 308 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 1: growing up, and I'm always i think people are always 309 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: interested to hear a little bit more about the setup. 310 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: You know, we see the DVDs and the TV shows 311 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: and we see a lot of great deer that you 312 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: guys are killing. But I'm curious, you know, what, what 313 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,640 Speaker 1: is the pharma set up? Is this land that all 314 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: that you know, your uncle and your dad owned that 315 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: they're hunting um or these leases? Um? Or do they 316 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: do they hunt anywhere by permission? You know? What's the 317 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: kind of set up there between? I think it's Missouri 318 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: and Iowa where you guys seemed the most in Illinois, yeah, yeah, 319 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:05,320 Speaker 1: those three states of the primary states. You know, originally 320 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: initially it was all leases, it was all knocking on doors, 321 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: it was helping farmers out, you know, and this is 322 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking in you know, throughout the whole nineties, and 323 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: what would happen is they started losing leases and started 324 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 1: losing their position, uh spots two guys coming in and 325 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: leasing them and and basically buying out the lease for 326 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: more money. And um, you know, after you cultivated a spot. 327 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 1: You know, everybody can relate to this in the most part. 328 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: After you cultivated a spot on your own for a 329 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: year or two and then you lose the lease, it starts, 330 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 1: you know, kind of getting to you. So they really 331 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: identified their you know, probably in the I'd say it's 332 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: probably mid to late nineties. They needed probably a spot 333 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: of their own. And I believe I believe Dad was 334 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: the first to purchase a farm. I believe he purchased 335 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: the place over in Pike County, and um, you know, 336 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: something they can control. I think it was maybe a 337 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: couple hundred acres and it was their first piece of property. 338 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: And you know, they hunted there for a long time. 339 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: And Pike and you know, at that time, I think, 340 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: you know, and they could speak to this way better 341 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,360 Speaker 1: than I can, because you know, I was still pretty young. 342 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: But I think it got to a point where it 343 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 1: was getting like so many outfitters and and Pike Kenny 344 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: became such a hot spot that they almost it was 345 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: they were feeling a lot of pressures on their fence 346 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: lines from trespassers, everything you could think of. And it's, 347 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:38,879 Speaker 1: like I said, stuff that everybody deals with. And uh, 348 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: I think at some point there, somewhere around the late nineties, 349 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: I think Mark bought his first bought and moved to Iowa. 350 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, it might have been somewhere in there, 351 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: and bought his first farm and moved to Iowa. And um, 352 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: I think that's that's what changed a lot for for 353 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: those guys. I think Dad sold his place like tooth 354 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: in Illinois somewhere around like two thousand, two thousand three, 355 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 1: two thousand four, and he bought a bigger chunk there 356 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: in Missouri and North Missouri near Kirksville. And you know, 357 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: I think the misconception out there is we only started 358 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: on television and around two thousand three, so people saw 359 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: it from that pointing on. And like you guys got 360 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: their own farms and they do. You know, they don't 361 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: do it like the average job, but it's stemmed from 362 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 1: them doing it like everybody else out there. And and 363 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: as you know, since this is a business to us 364 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: as well, you know, they they got smart about it. 365 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: They're like if we gotta get our own spot, and 366 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: we've got to be able to control our own chunk 367 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: of ground, if we're gonna be successful on this and 368 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 1: trying to manage our properties. And you know, when you're 369 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: trying to do it, consider like they've done it for 370 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 1: so long. You you know, you want to manage it 371 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: the way you want to manage it. And so they've 372 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,120 Speaker 1: worked very hard to get to the point they are today. 373 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: But it did not start that way. You know. They 374 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: started out knocking on doors and getting leases and keeople 375 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: buying leases out from underneath them. And you know, just 376 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: like your your your average guy out there, you know 377 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: slit today. So you know, at this point, this is 378 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: our twenty fifth year in the business, and um, I 379 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: think they've just they've gotten to a point where they 380 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: know what ground looks good. They've they've been lucky, and 381 00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,680 Speaker 1: you know, and the fact that they bought some pieces 382 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 1: and been able to sell them and get a really 383 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:36,639 Speaker 1: good return on their investment and help them buy bigger pieces. 384 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,720 Speaker 1: But I think that your basic American dream out there, 385 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: start small and and keep buying a little bit bigger 386 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 1: spot and sell your you know, and you know, get 387 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: to where you want to be. So, Um, that's where 388 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: they're at today. You're you know, the farms they own. 389 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 1: You know, we do have a couple of leases, but 390 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: the majority of the property they're hunting are places that 391 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: they own, some big, some small. You know, Dad's got 392 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: sixty acres and um in Illinois and uh, that's all 393 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: we got there. We've leased some ground here in the 394 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:11,400 Speaker 1: last few years, but we got sixty sixty acres there, 395 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: and every year we take a good, you know, a 396 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: good quality, mature buck off of it. And um, you know, 397 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: I think that's what everybody's What can you do? Yeah, 398 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: that's awesome. You gotta you gotta start somewhere. So it's 399 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: interesting to hear though about that transition where you know, 400 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: where they started from to where they are now and 401 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: and you know, now we're seeing you know, your family 402 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: reaping the benefits of that whole process. So yeah, yeah, 403 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: I can't take anything, you know, any anything, you know 404 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: out of that. You know, I'm very lucky, and I 405 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: I understand that, and I think Taylor does too. With Mark. 406 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're lucky in the fact that they've 407 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: worked so hard and and and done so well up 408 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 1: to this point. That we we do get to hunt 409 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: their spots, and you know, and I don't take it 410 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: for granted one bit. And you know, I teck, you know, 411 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm still learning as like, oh, I'm still learning a 412 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: lot of like oh actually every years, you know, I'm 413 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: screwing up hunts and you know, and figuring it out 414 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,760 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out all the stuff that they 415 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: learned twenty years ago. I'm I'm just not learning so uh, 416 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 1: you know it. We're lucky in the spots that we 417 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 1: get a hunt, but we're still learning how to hunt 418 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: like everybody else. Definitely, definitely all right. I got a 419 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 1: quick question for you, Matt. I'm gonna switch it up 420 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 1: just a little bit. Um as far as killing or 421 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,479 Speaker 1: your harvest success every year, have there ever been a 422 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: year where I mean, obviously a guy watches the shows, 423 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: h he watches the DVDs and he's seeing giant bucks 424 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: hit hit the ground. Have you guys ever had a 425 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: bad year or uh, you know, oh my gosh, it's 426 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: late season. You know they aren't moving. Uh, nobody's killed. 427 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: You know. I understand you guys have a big empire 428 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 1: with you know, several hunters, lots and lots of earners 429 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: hunting for you guys, but you know, we'll stick with 430 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: Mark and Terry. Have they ever been in a situation 431 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: where it's like, man, I haven't killed yet. Yeah, I 432 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: think I think last year was our toughest season as 433 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: a company to me in a long time. I mean, 434 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: I think that if you're looking at a bell curve, 435 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: I think two thousand and eight was probably two thousand 436 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: and eight two thousan semit somewhere in there. Those were 437 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: our rest years as a company. And then you know, 438 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,200 Speaker 1: the last two years we you know, we as as 439 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 1: everybody has or a lot of people I should say, 440 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, e h D's been really really tough on 441 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: the farms in the last few years. So last year 442 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 1: was probably our toughest. Now, Dad he's I think his 443 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,760 Speaker 1: records something like going sixty and he hunts. They hunt 444 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: every day, so that's the part. You know, it's a 445 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: job for them. So there they are hunting every day 446 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: once the season starts, and I think Dad went sixty 447 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,119 Speaker 1: or sixty one days one year before he killed his 448 00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,760 Speaker 1: first you know, and of course they're passing some deer, 449 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: you know, three year old, two year old type year 450 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 1: and they're looking for that four or five year old 451 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: or older dear. So it's you know, it's kind of 452 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: take it with a grain of salt when you hear that, 453 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: because they've had opportunities, but to manage the places that 454 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: they're managing, they're you know, they're managing for the upper 455 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 1: it's not necessarily about rack. It's it's more about age class. 456 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,399 Speaker 1: And so Dad went like fifty something days. Well this 457 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 1: last year, I think he went fifty eight days. So 458 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: he keell he killed his first year, and I think 459 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: it ended up it was like, you know, probably a 460 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: four or five year old year that was maybe in 461 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 1: the mid thirties, one thirties. You know, it's just it's 462 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: it's you know, it was a grind this year. Mark 463 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: he came out of the gate pretty pretty hottie. In October. 464 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: Early on in October he killed a gross spoon on 465 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 1: his place in Iowa. But after that, I think it 466 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: it started grinding a little bit farm and you know, 467 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: by year as a whole, as a team, it was 468 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: our toughest year in a long long time. But but 469 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 1: by and large, you know, we still had some success 470 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: and we're still fortunate. Interesting, Yeah, I um, you know, 471 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: it's just my opinion, but maybe it was a blessing 472 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: in disguise for you guys last year because I think, 473 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, even though maybe there aren't quite as many 474 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: kills in the past, I thought you guys had some 475 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: of the best storylines and you know, stuff that the 476 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: client led into those kills than maybe any other year 477 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 1: that I've seen your DVDs. So I really enjoyed them 478 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: this year. Yeah, it's probably a double edged sword, or really, 479 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: I mean, when you have a lot of of of kills, 480 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, you're wanting to put a lot of content 481 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: on the e ease, and when you know when you're 482 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: when you're not having as many as a company, I 483 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: think it forces you. We always produce really good storylines, 484 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 1: but what happens is in the edit process a lot 485 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: of times we shorten or cut a lot of stuff 486 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: out because you're trying to add more kills. You know, 487 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: It's it's a weird thing because it's like, well, what 488 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: does the viewer want? Does you want you on? Some 489 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: of our competitors out there might put thirty kills on 490 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: a on a DVD, but you know, we've also heard 491 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: from you know, our fan base that they don't necessarily 492 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: like that because they want to get involved in the storyline. 493 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: How did you you know? What? Where did you hang? 494 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: Why did you hang there? What you plant there? What 495 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: you know? The information behind it? And that's kind of 496 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: always been the key to I think Mark and dad 497 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: success is they it's not some secret. They've tried helping 498 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 1: the viewer and kind of teaching, you know, our successes 499 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: and our mistakes, you know, our fail here's they let 500 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 1: it all out there. And I think in a slow 501 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: year you could probably let the storylines breathe a little 502 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: bit more and you can kind of dive into them 503 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more than in a year where you killed. 504 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: You know, say you kill you want to put twenty 505 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: kills on a DVD, and you're trying to get through 506 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: them a little bit quicker. So it's interesting in a 507 00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 1: slow year you might expand your storylines a little better. Yeah, 508 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,080 Speaker 1: I think from a I think from a business a 509 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 1: point to as far as the industry is concerned, I 510 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: think there is a transition that has either happened or 511 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: is in the process of happening to where the the 512 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: people or the quote unquote fan base is not as 513 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: interested in a majority of kills anymore, because I'm seeing 514 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,639 Speaker 1: a lot of that change going to a storyline instead 515 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: of just hey, I'm here, here comes a buck shoot 516 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: it trophy picture. So I'm seeing absolutely think about it. 517 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: You know, if you turn on there's what three more 518 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: or less three major networks you can turn on at 519 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: any given time and more or less probably see like 520 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty year hit the dirt. And so what 521 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: what separates the men from the boys as far as 522 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: content goes? What separate to the storylines? What separated is 523 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: the guys who do it themselves for the most part, 524 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,160 Speaker 1: you know what separated it is, uh, you know, sweat equity, 525 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 1: showing that you are you know, yes, we may be 526 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 1: hunting more you know, bigger tracks land or premier places, 527 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, there's still showcasing 528 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:18,760 Speaker 1: tips and tactics on how you at home can also 529 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: you know, take your four acres, taking your eighty acres, 530 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: aren't twenty acres, whatever it may be, your lease and 531 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: do small things, you know, relatively relative to what your 532 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: track of land is and improve it to the end 533 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: of the day. I think Mark and Dad and we 534 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: got this from Bobby Cole this term, but they're gamekeepers. 535 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: You know, they're managing their overall habitat. They're all you know, 536 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: they're planting trees, they're you know, planting the right food. 537 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: They're you know, doing timber cuts if they need to, 538 00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: you know, improve the you know, the fourth floor. It's 539 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: just there's a lot that you can do. And I 540 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: think that's the kind of stuff that a producer needs 541 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: to dive in to be successful. You know, I don't 542 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right. I don't think your average 543 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: viewer anymore. I just want to see a bunch of killers. 544 00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 1: I think they want to see how you killed it, 545 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 1: you know, like what you do to be successful there, 546 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,879 Speaker 1: so they can you know, take something and use it 547 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: on their own piece of land. So that's what we 548 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: try to do, and hopefully that's what people take away. Yeah, 549 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: for sure, that's a perfect segue for for the next 550 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: thing I want to ask you about. Um. You know, obviously, 551 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: your dad, Mark and the whole team. I had a 552 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: lot of success over the years, and you've kind of 553 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: touched on a few of the things. But I'm curious, 554 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: you know, if you had to pick maybe one thing, 555 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 1: what do you think is the the biggest key to 556 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: their success. You know, killing mature deer. You know, it's 557 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 1: a it's a that's interest. That's a good question. From 558 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: my perspective from where I fit and how I see 559 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 1: them work day in and day out. It's their uncanny 560 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: business decisions that helped them be successful and and anything 561 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: they do. Honestly, it's really it's only a pleasure to 562 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: get to watch them from the business side of it 563 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: because Mark and Dad. Believe me, they are two completely 564 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,720 Speaker 1: different people. But between the two of them, I mean, 565 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: it's Yang and Yang. It's it's really interesting. But between 566 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: the two of them, there's nothing that they don't think 567 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,719 Speaker 1: of very little. And I'm not trying to be like, 568 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, like bragadocious about it. It's just interesting to 569 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: watch them. If one guy has an opinion about something 570 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: as it pertains to the farms, are are are a 571 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:33,560 Speaker 1: tree or a funnel or this tear sign or whatever 572 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 1: the case may be. They're very in their own unique ways. 573 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 1: They always get to the same and goal. Basically, I 574 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: think Mark his most his most successful attribute is his aggressiveness. 575 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: He's much more aggressive than that is. I mean, he 576 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: if he has a deer in his sights, he scouted, 577 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: he I mean, he's just the mad we call them 578 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 1: the mad scientists that at figuring away, you know, to 579 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: in on that deer. And I think that's his most 580 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: successful attribute. But as a whole, i'd say their business prowess, 581 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: it's it's really interesting to see them work, uh and 582 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: come to the same general and result in much different ways. Yeah, 583 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: it definitely seems like they're um, maybe analytical, and how 584 00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: they approached the hunt and how they break everything down 585 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: and process things and makes strategic decisions, um, and something 586 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: you said that I'd like to dive into a little 587 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: bit more because you tell us a little bit more about, 588 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,800 Speaker 1: you know, in what ways Mark is uh, you know, 589 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 1: maybe better in certain ways. Sounds like he's aggressive, But 590 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: I'd love to hear a little more about how Mark 591 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: is different. And then how your dad, you know, what's there, Um, 592 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: what's Terry's pros, what's his cons versus versus his brother? 593 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: What's that look like? Well? I think Jerry Froze is 594 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: he will fit and he will wage something. I mean, 595 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a stubborn quality more than anything. And 596 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: you know, like that sixty of me saying you hunt 597 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: a sixty day in this fifty eight days. It seems 598 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: like that's every year for him. I mean sometimes he'll 599 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: you know, he'll get kill one right out of the gate, 600 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 1: but it's here and far between, and he's hunting a 601 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 1: much different piece and Mark is it's different gear on 602 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:18,959 Speaker 1: different dirt. You know. It's interesting because Dad's patience and 603 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 1: I call the stubbornness, but it's really patients. He'll sit 604 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: a stand all day and not think twice, and he 605 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: will literally stand up the entire day. You know, he'll 606 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: wear a camera guy out every year. He just it's 607 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: it's a grinder mentality. And I think that's his biggest 608 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: pro and that grinder mentality. He will always get the 609 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: job done. Mark's biggest pro is definitely his aggressiveness. They're 610 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: both very analytical in different ways, but they're both very analytical. 611 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: I think, you know, Mark will take something like five 612 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: thousand trail camp picks, you know, between all the places 613 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: he hunts, and I think that will take something like 614 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand or comics picks. It's it's really they 615 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: go to bed at night looking at their econics pictures 616 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: every night, like if like if you go to their 617 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: place to hunt with him, you know, and you're at 618 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: their house or whatever. It's so boring, but they're not talking. 619 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: I mean they're sitting on their laptop and they're literally 620 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 1: looking at pictures every night. So you know, Mark, you 621 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: know hell Can a year, a couple of years ago, 622 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: and I mean he had hunt this thing for several years. 623 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean he's he's going as far as he's got 624 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 1: his total map out, and he's he's mapping exactly where 625 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: his reconics pictures were dating back years years and years, 626 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: and what times and what the winds were, what the 627 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: moon phase was. I mean, they really died into it 628 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: for the whole another level, and I think that's what 629 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: differentiates guys like them and Jay Gregory and the kiss 630 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: keys of the world. Lee Lakowski is certainly is one 631 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 1: of those guys, like they take it to almost an 632 00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: obsessive level, and they you know, I think guys back 633 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 1: them a lot of time to say, oh, they've always 634 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: you know, they killed big deer. They if I hunted 635 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: those places, I could too. I don't think that's the case. 636 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: I think it's because the mentality they take into the 637 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 1: hunt is why they kill those deer. I mean, just 638 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: because you have one pattern doesn't mean it's gonna walk 639 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: in front of you. And especially when you've got two 640 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: guys in the stand with you. There's a lot of things, 641 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: a lot of variables that go wrong. There's a lot 642 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: to have to go right to be successful on a hunt. 643 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: So I think I think that persistence, you know, is 644 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: really a key for them. Yeah, that's that's really interesting 645 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: to hear. I got one more Mark versus Harry question 646 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: and then we'll move on. Um, what about this situation. 647 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: Let's say you're being dropped off on a random piece 648 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: of private ground somewhere in the Midwest. Let's say it's 649 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty acres. You're there for seven days, 650 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: and you're told all you need to learn this property 651 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 1: and hunt it for seven days, and your goals to 652 00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: kill the mature deer. And you get to either have 653 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: your dead or your uncle Mark join you as your advisor. 654 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: But you can only have one or the other. Who 655 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: are you going to pick to help you with that 656 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: seven day mission? And be marked because of his aggressiveness, 657 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: you know, it might take Dad twenty seven days and 658 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: take Marked seven days. You know, he's it's just it's 659 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,719 Speaker 1: they both get the job done. You know what I mean. 660 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: But it's a different way to get the job done. 661 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: And so I had seven days. I took Mark and 662 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 1: and and I think that would pick Mark in seven days, 663 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just it's he's really 664 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 1: really aggressive. He I mean, they both have a really Unkenny. 665 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: I to go look at a piece of brown, look 666 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: at a map and say, well, here's where the funnel is. 667 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: Here's really deer, movem and and and going and hang 668 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,640 Speaker 1: and hunt the same day. I mean, they don't do 669 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 1: it as much anymore because their property, you know, they 670 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: spend all year manicuring these things, and and and all 671 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: the off seasons looking at where to hang. But yeah, 672 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: seven days, you know, I would say probably Mark and 673 00:34:58,120 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: they both could get it done. But I'd say Mark 674 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 1: is your better bet. Okay, okay makes sense. So speaking 675 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:06,919 Speaker 1: of their properties and the and the work they do there, 676 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: you know, given the you know how everybody was hit 677 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: so hard with the h D over the past couple 678 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 1: of years, you know, how are you guys adapting your 679 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: strategies on these properties or you know, how you're managing 680 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: them to account for that impact on the population. I 681 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: think Mark got hit a little harder than Dad's place did. 682 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,279 Speaker 1: And you got hit two years in a row. I 683 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: mean Mark, Mark estimates in some cases he lost sent 684 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: others upper end, you know, buck bucks out of his population. 685 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 1: That's that's pretty devastating. I mean, yeah, that thing, you know, 686 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,840 Speaker 1: it was it was a well oiled machine. And uh, 687 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: you know there there, it was almost sickening how many 688 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: big deer he had there. And it was really sickening 689 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 1: to see how many they found dead. And you know, 690 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: I heard him say something the other day. I thought 691 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: it was interesting because you know, you they still go 692 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,360 Speaker 1: in and man and so your if your main goal 693 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: is to have a balanced deer herd, you know, a 694 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,439 Speaker 1: one to one or even a one to two buck 695 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: to dough ratio, it's it's a hard mentality to put 696 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: in your head. Okay, I need to go in and 697 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 1: manage my does when you know you lost so many deer. 698 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,360 Speaker 1: But what happened at Mark's place, and I think what 699 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 1: happened to a lot of people when the h D 700 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 1: it hit more of the bucks than it did the dose. 701 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:28,320 Speaker 1: So now where he had more kind of a balanced herd, 702 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: it's kind of really out of whack. Now, So you know, 703 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of does on it. I think I 704 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,439 Speaker 1: think some people will probably struggle. Who knows that they're 705 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: right or wrong? This is each their own kind of thing, 706 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: but in their minds they have some management management of 707 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: the dose to do to kind of get the balance 708 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: back in the herd, because you know, if you start 709 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: getting more does than you do bucks, then you have 710 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 1: issues with your rut. And you know, there's a lot 711 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 1: of stuff that there's kind of a waterfall effect that happens, 712 00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:01,160 Speaker 1: and um, you know, so I think you know they're 713 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 1: they're trying to make sure their habitats good. They're playing 714 00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,200 Speaker 1: a lot of food. I know in Missouri, they're on 715 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: their Missouri places. They're feeding a new product that that 716 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 1: we teamed up with this year, supplement products called Analogics Outdoors. 717 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: And these guys, it's really it's a really cruel story 718 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,040 Speaker 1: to tell, and I think you're gonna start hearing more 719 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: and more about it coming this, you know, the next 720 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: few weeks since the shows start airing, you'll see commercials 721 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: for these guys. But they come from a background. It 722 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: really interesting. They come from the background of like cattle, 723 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: like you know, poultry, pork, beef, that those industries their veterinarians. 724 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,759 Speaker 1: Their scientists are biologists, and they come up with you know, 725 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: immunizations or whatever if there's a disease that crops up 726 00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: in in some of those industries. They basically come up 727 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: with the curius farm and their hunter. A lot of 728 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 1: these guys are hunters, the owners and and a lot 729 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: of the guys who work there are hunters. So they 730 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: they got hit with the HD as well. And so 731 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: they started just from their own standpoint, trying to figure 732 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: out it's not really a cure and you're not going 733 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: to cry h D, but it's like a total herd 734 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: health kind of management. So it's it's trying to make 735 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: sure you have a healthy herd. And so they got this, 736 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, if they called their special sauce or whatever, 737 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: this special thing that they've created, and they've done it 738 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: in supplement farm, they've done it in a concentrated farm, 739 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: and we started using the product here in the off season, 740 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:39,040 Speaker 1: and we're gonna see what it does. We're we're really 741 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: excited about it. We we we sat through the meetings and 742 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:45,000 Speaker 1: and heard the biologists talk about it and the science 743 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: behind it, and so we're we're feeding our herds, you know, 744 00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: in the States ward's legal. We're we're putting that stuff 745 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,719 Speaker 1: out right now, and um, we're really trying to make 746 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,800 Speaker 1: our dear more more healthy. It's almost a given environment, 747 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: you know, and to supplement and uh so, so right 748 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: now we're doing that kind of stuff. We're planting the 749 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 1: food pox, you know, planting the pool and the beans 750 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 1: and all the stuff we always do, but you know, 751 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,560 Speaker 1: we're trying to do it to the next level and 752 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: make sure we get these dear get their health up, 753 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,719 Speaker 1: because I think that's the biggest, the biggest issue that 754 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: did the deer that did survive the h D if 755 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: it was in your area, their health may be diminished 756 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: as well. And then we have the really harsh winter 757 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 1: and and that hurts them, you know, so that it's 758 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: like they're going into this spring and they're already at 759 00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 1: a disadvantage. Is and if you're trying to manage your 760 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,280 Speaker 1: dear for you know, you know, to optimize your racks. 761 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: You know, if you go beyond just overall herd health 762 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: and you're trying to get to the point where you're 763 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: optimizing your rack growth, well you know, they're using up 764 00:39:50,560 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: all of their strength to just build their body fats 765 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 1: back up, so you're you're happy. You have to get 766 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: through that as well. So I think everybody's you know, 767 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,399 Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to how to get their 768 00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: deer back to that healthy point. But I think you're certainly, 769 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,359 Speaker 1: if you know, if you're feeding them supplements right now 770 00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: where you can and the states where it's legal, it 771 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,400 Speaker 1: certainly helps. Yeah. No, I think, um, a lot of 772 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 1: deer struggling coming off of this winner. So anything you 773 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 1: can do to help, certainly certainly is a good thing. 774 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 1: So that's uh. That said, I think I wanted to 775 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,360 Speaker 1: move on to to talk a little bit about, you know, 776 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: what it's like filming and producing shows and DVDs like this. 777 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: But Dan, before we transition over that that side of things, 778 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:34,400 Speaker 1: is there anything else you want to cover? Oh? Boy, 779 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,120 Speaker 1: this is embarrassing because I just forgot my question. This 780 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: is the first and I do apologize. Yeah, I just 781 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:47,839 Speaker 1: come back to me. All right, we can do that. Well, Matt. 782 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: That said, then you know if I'm right, and correct 783 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong. But I think you guys produce 784 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: four different TV shows and three or four DVDs a year, 785 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 1: is that right? That's correct? For four TV shows on 786 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,279 Speaker 1: two different networks and uh in a line of three 787 00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: DVDs that we we put out in the Cabellas of 788 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,719 Speaker 1: the world. So you know, from your side of things, 789 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: and I think you know you like you mentioned, you've 790 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: done some editing, You've done some filming. I think you 791 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,799 Speaker 1: do a lot of the production now. Um, you know, 792 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: what's the greatest challenge of making all this work and 793 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:25,880 Speaker 1: come together? I think I think the biggest challenge is 794 00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:29,720 Speaker 1: to keep it unique. So when you have that many productions, 795 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: you don't want it to seem like if you turn 796 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: the channel and you so you check out Natural barn 797 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,240 Speaker 1: You know, Winchester in Jury is Natural Barn over in Pursuit. 798 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,400 Speaker 1: But we have a cast of guys over there, and 799 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: we have a certain kind of edit style for the 800 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: that show. And then if you switch it over to 801 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: outdoor channel and you tune in the bill, madness, Okay, 802 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,239 Speaker 1: what's that? How's that show different from the others? So 803 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 1: that's that's the biggest That's the biggest challenge. And then 804 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: the next biggest challenge is to keep it fresh and 805 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 1: unique every year because you can't, especially in our position, 806 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:06,360 Speaker 1: you can't sit back on your accolades. You've got to 807 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: keep innovating. You gotta keep trying something new, you gotta 808 00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: keep making sure your production levels at the top of 809 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: your game. I mean, there's a lot of really good 810 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: producers out there. You know, the key for Brothers at 811 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: Rust and Rooster Jason Brown. Those guys are phenomenal. You 812 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,879 Speaker 1: know Dropped. I love that show, and there's a lot 813 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: of good shows out there. But you know, to keep 814 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: it fresh and to keep your content you need, that's 815 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,480 Speaker 1: a challenge. And all the producers ultimately trying to do 816 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: that same thing. So if you think about it and 817 00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: you're confidently trying to want up each other, it makes 818 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: the production better as a whole. But it's a challenge 819 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: year in and year out, and when you have this 820 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: many productions, especially to keep coming up with new stuff. 821 00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: So that's that's the biggest challenge. I'd say to piggyback 822 00:42:54,560 --> 00:43:00,080 Speaker 1: off Mark's question real quick, you know, I would a 823 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: that you guys have what some would call a dream job. Okay, 824 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: now we get to see now for people who may 825 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 1: not be in the industry, I I guess I would 826 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: consider myself, um, not in it, but I'm familiar with 827 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:20,720 Speaker 1: it and I you know, I know how much hours 828 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: of filming go into a thirty minute show or a 829 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: two hour DVD. Um. But what is the crappiest part 830 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:35,480 Speaker 1: about your job? What? Because everybody can complain about something, 831 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 1: What what's part of your job that you don't like? Uh? Man, 832 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: that's that's tough. I I enjoy a lot of aspects, 833 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:48,320 Speaker 1: for sure. I think one of the toughest parts would 834 00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:55,160 Speaker 1: be probably cutting down a show. When the crappiest part 835 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: is cutting down a show because really, at the end 836 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: of the day, when you get all the plugs and 837 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,440 Speaker 1: get off, take care of all your sponsors and your partners, 838 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, there might be fourteen to sixteen eighteen minutes 839 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,440 Speaker 1: tops of actual hunting content or geez, I mean, if 840 00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: you think about it. So, So, we got a new 841 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,320 Speaker 1: show coming out called thirteen comes out on the Outdoor 842 00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:21,160 Speaker 1: Channel July one. The cast is comprised and Mark Kerry, myself, 843 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:27,239 Speaker 1: Taylor and Jim Tomy and Gary Lebox and say, you 844 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: get to like November where all of us are out 845 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,080 Speaker 1: and hunting, and we broke the showdown to different phases 846 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,760 Speaker 1: of the deer season. So you might have a phase 847 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,399 Speaker 1: that say it's the Missouri, it's around the Missouri gun 848 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 1: Seas and the phase is like a week long, so 849 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: you've got an episode. One episode consists of you know, 850 00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,520 Speaker 1: six guys who are out there filming for a week 851 00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: straight and every day, and you know, cutting a lot 852 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: of good stuff out. It might even be good encounters, 853 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,320 Speaker 1: but cutting it out because you know, we decided, Hey, 854 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, say say Terry killed a deer, you know, 855 00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,560 Speaker 1: on day six, and you want to give it a 856 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:13,120 Speaker 1: good two segments worth of time on on TV, Well 857 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,680 Speaker 1: you're going to cut out. You might cut out Jeremy 858 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: Taylor and that because you know, what we encountered just 859 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,040 Speaker 1: wasn't as interesting as what Gary and Mark encountered, you 860 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,240 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then these are just examples. 861 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,160 Speaker 1: It's very it gets very sticky on cutting shows down 862 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,400 Speaker 1: and and Dream Season. Dream Season is probably the worst 863 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,320 Speaker 1: of all of them. Thirteens We're finding Out is pretty 864 00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: similar because there's so many guys in the Castle. Dream Season. Man, 865 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: you're you might have three hundred, four hundred hours of 866 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:51,920 Speaker 1: footage for thirteen episodes, and they're called half hour episodes, 867 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,720 Speaker 1: but in reality you might have fourteen to sixteen years. 868 00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,480 Speaker 1: The hunting, I think think of that taking out much 869 00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:00,840 Speaker 1: your cutting and and there's a lot of interesting stuff. 870 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: I know, the producers for us, our our jury team 871 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:06,759 Speaker 1: members and even Mark and Terry. You get discouraged a 872 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 1: little bit because you produce your butt off out in 873 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 1: the field and then you see the episode and there's 874 00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: so much that gets cut out, and you know, guys 875 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 1: you know out there watching think, you know, every time 876 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 1: you turn around, geers coming in. Geez. You know. I 877 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,799 Speaker 1: wish it was that way because my wife would be 878 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: a lot happier, I'd be home more, you know, it'd 879 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: go quicker. But it really isn't the reality. I mean, 880 00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:31,279 Speaker 1: they're they're just out there every day now stop. Yeah. 881 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: I think both me and Dan, given our our work 882 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: filming and on that kind of things on a much 883 00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: smaller scale, we can definitely relate. Um. So, speaking of 884 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: your new show thirteen, um, you know, can you tell 885 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,920 Speaker 1: us a little bit more about you know, what's different 886 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: about this show? Um? You know, why should folks be 887 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 1: excited to be checking that out in the outdoor channel 888 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: here soon? Yeah? Yeah, we're really pumped up about it. 889 00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:57,360 Speaker 1: This past fall we started, uh we teamed up with 890 00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,920 Speaker 1: under Arms and started hunting. Uh, all you egg here 891 00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,319 Speaker 1: So that was a switch, a big switch for us, 892 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,960 Speaker 1: as most people know, and with that it gave us 893 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,160 Speaker 1: the ability to produce a new television show. So the show. 894 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: You know, as we sat down and we looked at 895 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: the landscape of television. You know, there's a lot of 896 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: what we call filler out there, and it's it's basically 897 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 1: just shows that you kind of just turn on and 898 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 1: you just it's on your watching, it's in the background 899 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: or whatever, and you're not really learning anything or not 900 00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,000 Speaker 1: taking anything away from it. You know, I don't know, 901 00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:34,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of getting stale a little bit the message 902 00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: that's getting sent out there from the producers. So you know, 903 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: we looked and said, how can we be different? What 904 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,759 Speaker 1: can make even from our stuff? How can we make 905 00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 1: it different? So we sat down, it was Mark Terry 906 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: and myself and I had a laptop there, and we started, 907 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, brain stroming, throwing out ideas, throwing out stuff 908 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,720 Speaker 1: that we felt like, uh and our previous TV shows, 909 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 1: stuff that we liked, stuff that we didn't like. We 910 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: identify a lot of stuff out of Team in the Spring, 911 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,480 Speaker 1: which we produced a season of Aboutdoor Channel that we 912 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,960 Speaker 1: really like production wise, you know, So it's like, okay, 913 00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 1: let's here, you pick all the good things that we like, 914 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,360 Speaker 1: and okay, how do you wrap that into this gear season? 915 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: What do we do different about this deer season? You know, 916 00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: Mark and Terry hunt every day for four months, you 917 00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: know what, how can we kind of package that up? 918 00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,879 Speaker 1: So we just they sat down and Mark and Terry 919 00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,440 Speaker 1: kind of started saying, Okay, the deer kind of have 920 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:37,319 Speaker 1: different phases in all reality, like what to take to 921 00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,400 Speaker 1: produce thirteen episodes of gear herding, while in all reality, 922 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,719 Speaker 1: you know, the deer have a lot of different phases 923 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,040 Speaker 1: during the season that they go through, things that light 924 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: swhich events that make them move, that shut them down, that, 925 00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,799 Speaker 1: you know, whatever the case may be. So we just 926 00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,600 Speaker 1: started listing. Literally sat there and I started typing out 927 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:02,600 Speaker 1: as they were talking, and he started September fifteen for 928 00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,920 Speaker 1: us in Missouri, which is where we can start, you know, 929 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: and started September fifteenth, and they said, well, you know, 930 00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:13,479 Speaker 1: in the previous forty years and hunt thirty years of hunting, 931 00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: whatever the case may be, between two of them, here's 932 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: what I've noticed happens. And and it was really interesting. 933 00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 1: I should have rolled a camera during this process because 934 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,920 Speaker 1: it was so neat to listen to market dad talk 935 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,200 Speaker 1: about it, and they were so on the same page. 936 00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:29,279 Speaker 1: And one guy might be like, well, yeah, you know what, 937 00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: I also noticed the deer do this during this phase, 938 00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: and the other guy would be like, you know that, 939 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 1: you know what you're dead on. They definitely do that, 940 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,920 Speaker 1: And so we came up with a phase. You know, 941 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,560 Speaker 1: so we'd go come up with another phase and another phase. 942 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: And by the time we got to the end of 943 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, middle of January or whenever the season ends, 944 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,880 Speaker 1: Mark looked up at me, he said, how many how 945 00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,719 Speaker 1: many phases did we come up with here? And so I, 946 00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:55,360 Speaker 1: you know, I looked through I started counting them. I 947 00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: was like, we came up with their team, believe it 948 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,879 Speaker 1: or not. So it was kind of a lucky thing 949 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:05,040 Speaker 1: that idea landed into. We got a phase for every episode, 950 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 1: and it wasn't designed that way. I mean they literally 951 00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:11,760 Speaker 1: just started talking about they started it was date driven. Okay, September, 952 00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:16,600 Speaker 1: the deer does this through though you know October or 953 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: whatever that the deer does this. And by the end 954 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,120 Speaker 1: of it, they came up with thirteen phases. So in 955 00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: the show we really dive into and I say, we 956 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 1: it's it's not Taylor, it's not me in this part. 957 00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,160 Speaker 1: It's Mark and Terry. It's the guys that have lived 958 00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,120 Speaker 1: and breathed it every single day for the last twenty 959 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: five years, and they hunted, you know, fifteen or twenty 960 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:42,919 Speaker 1: years before that. It's their knowledge, you know, it's it's 961 00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: their mess ups, it's it's all that stuff. It's that 962 00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,479 Speaker 1: information that really is priceless. And I'll you know, I'd 963 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: have to hunt four more decades before I could even 964 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 1: be close to knowing what they know. And so it's 965 00:50:56,280 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: that information that they're spitting out. But then the next part, though, 966 00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 1: it is we broke it into four tactics of how 967 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:05,439 Speaker 1: to actually kill the deers hurting that stage. We don't 968 00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:08,560 Speaker 1: always succeed, you know, as far as a cast member 969 00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,120 Speaker 1: doesn't always succeed. It might be one of the Jury 970 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,719 Speaker 1: Outdoors team members that we kind of bring in or 971 00:51:13,719 --> 00:51:17,320 Speaker 1: introduce one of their hunts. But okay, that's great. A 972 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 1: deer is during this during this phase, well, how do 973 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 1: I kill one? You know, how does that help me 974 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,080 Speaker 1: kill one? Well, we try to break it down even 975 00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,800 Speaker 1: further and give you the how you know how to 976 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 1: kill one? So Uh, it's it's pretty interesting in that fact. 977 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that you see that on TV very much. 978 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,440 Speaker 1: I don't know that you see producers really trying to 979 00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: teach a guy in every part of the season how 980 00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:43,719 Speaker 1: to kill a deer. You know, it's just I killed 981 00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 1: the deer. So I think from that standpoint, people will 982 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: be able to learn a lot or take something away 983 00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 1: from it, you know, maybe learn something from something we 984 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: messed up. You know, that's part of the two failures misses, 985 00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,279 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So hunting the wrong the wrong 986 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,399 Speaker 1: spot at the wrong time. I mean, they get into 987 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,600 Speaker 1: barre metric pressure, they're getting a moon phase, you know, funnels, 988 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: sign you know, food, They really they really cover every 989 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: aspect and and then it's in an infotainment kind of way, 990 00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:19,440 Speaker 1: information with entertainment mixed in. So I think from the 991 00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:25,359 Speaker 1: the entertainment side, we try to you know, everybody always says, oh, man, 992 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: mother Nature killed me today. Mother Nature. You know, she 993 00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:31,240 Speaker 1: really screwed up my hunt. You know, you hear people 994 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: talk about mother Nature constantly, and nobody's ever kind of 995 00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: brought that out and television, So from the entertainment side 996 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 1: of it, I think that's what we try to do 997 00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:45,960 Speaker 1: a little bit different. They're not. It's not a cheaty way, 998 00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,960 Speaker 1: it's real light. But quote unquote mother Nature. We we 999 00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,640 Speaker 1: found a d o person that we felt like, kind 1000 00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,600 Speaker 1: of in our mind. If you think about what Mother 1001 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: Nature would be sounding like, this is it. You know, 1002 00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,239 Speaker 1: this is the voice. We found what we felt life 1003 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,000 Speaker 1: was a voice, and she is kind of the voice 1004 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: over the narrator, so so to speak that kind of 1005 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:11,680 Speaker 1: leads you through the season. And you know, so far 1006 00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: from the stuff that we put out there are our 1007 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,719 Speaker 1: trailer or teaser trailer. Most guys have really been into it, 1008 00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,280 Speaker 1: really thought that it's a cool idea, and some guys 1009 00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,919 Speaker 1: I thought that it might get a little cheesy. I think, 1010 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:25,560 Speaker 1: you know, I think the litmus test is going to 1011 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: be once we see what everybody thinks of this season. 1012 00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:33,120 Speaker 1: But you know, with anything we do, we don't we're 1013 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:34,960 Speaker 1: not trying to make it cheesy. I think there's a 1014 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:37,359 Speaker 1: real fine line that you can cross, and I think 1015 00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,160 Speaker 1: we dialed it back enough to where it's not a 1016 00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: big presence. It's just kind of a to help you 1017 00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:47,319 Speaker 1: move along through the season. And you know, we're referencing her, 1018 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, in the stand and and that kind of stuff. 1019 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:52,759 Speaker 1: It's it's it's not cheesy. It's just kind of a 1020 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:56,560 Speaker 1: fun way to package the show together. So I think 1021 00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: people are going to get into it, and at the 1022 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: end of the day, I think people can and a 1023 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 1: lot from our mistakes and our successes, kind of like 1024 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:09,640 Speaker 1: a Discovery Channel Planet Earth. If you've ever seen that, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 1025 00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,600 Speaker 1: that show is awesome. By the say, that's awesome. Yeah, 1026 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,799 Speaker 1: it sounds really interesting. I'm excited to check it out. 1027 00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I can never get enough of all 1028 00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 1: the people on TV. Like you said, there's a lot 1029 00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:21,719 Speaker 1: of good shows out there, then there's a lot of 1030 00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:23,640 Speaker 1: filler shows and some that I don't know how they 1031 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:27,680 Speaker 1: made it on TV UM. But you know, I've always 1032 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:31,600 Speaker 1: enjoyed the dreary productions because I could just listen to 1033 00:54:31,640 --> 00:54:34,560 Speaker 1: Mark and your Dad talks um, you know, for for hours. 1034 00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,520 Speaker 1: They just seemed to be a wealth of knowledge. They're interesting, 1035 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 1: and they obviously know what they're doing. And even though 1036 00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:42,239 Speaker 1: you know they're hunting different kinds of properties than I 1037 00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:44,840 Speaker 1: have in different situations, I always find something that I 1038 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,239 Speaker 1: can learn from them and apply back to my own 1039 00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 1: piece of ground. UM and the only the only you 1040 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: know how I hunt too, so I'm excited to hear 1041 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:53,880 Speaker 1: more from them and see what thirteen has in store. 1042 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,279 Speaker 1: I think you'll like it. It Like I said, it 1043 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,560 Speaker 1: starts airing on the Outdoor Channel, Joe, we could July first. 1044 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,360 Speaker 1: I think July first to the Tuesday and it airs 1045 00:55:04,560 --> 00:55:08,000 Speaker 1: and Wildlife Obsessions. Old time slot Wildlife Obsession went away 1046 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,960 Speaker 1: and and this is taking its spot, So nine pm 1047 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,759 Speaker 1: Central on Tuesday nights and has a couple other you know, 1048 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 1: other air times, but set your DVRs. I think I 1049 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be something that people really can think 1050 00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,120 Speaker 1: their teeth in and learn something. And like you said, 1051 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: even if it's just taken one small piece of information 1052 00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,120 Speaker 1: to to take back with you and implement in your 1053 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: own place, that's all we're trying to do. Mark and Terry. 1054 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,719 Speaker 1: You know, they've said a thousand times and they're not 1055 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: very funny, they're not pretty, you know, are we don't 1056 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,000 Speaker 1: have a stick. You know. What we have going for 1057 00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:45,600 Speaker 1: us is the fact that they've sat in a tree 1058 00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:49,560 Speaker 1: for every day, you know, for twenty five years, durtain 1059 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,560 Speaker 1: the season. So you know, you can't help but pick 1060 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,680 Speaker 1: some stuff up and learn some things and see what 1061 00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 1: the deer you know, what their habits are and what 1062 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,239 Speaker 1: they're doing, and you know, but because they're so analytical, 1063 00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,080 Speaker 1: I think they've just picked up a lot of stuff 1064 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:06,840 Speaker 1: along the way. So, by no means are we saying 1065 00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:10,400 Speaker 1: that we're the ultimate authority. And you know, we realized 1066 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,160 Speaker 1: that our stuff is very Midwestern. Then so the guys 1067 00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,840 Speaker 1: in the South and the guys in the Northeast or 1068 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,799 Speaker 1: the western and may not apply phase rise exactly to 1069 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 1: what we're doing, but I think you could still take 1070 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:26,719 Speaker 1: something away and apply it to your own place. Oh yeah, 1071 00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:30,480 Speaker 1: I think that's absolutely true. And I think with that 1072 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: being the case, we're actually running up on time here. Um. 1073 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,520 Speaker 1: That said, Dan, did you have anything else you want 1074 00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:37,360 Speaker 1: to you want to ask Matt before we kind of 1075 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,040 Speaker 1: wrap things up. I think with with technology today, um, 1076 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,840 Speaker 1: and and the camera equipment that's available, that's all for 1077 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,520 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's pretty cheap. So people can tell 1078 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,320 Speaker 1: their stories online or even put together a d d 1079 00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: D if they want. What absolutely what suggestions or advice 1080 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,759 Speaker 1: would you give someone who wants to start filming their 1081 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 1: hunts or you know, maybe put together a blog or 1082 00:57:06,239 --> 00:57:10,080 Speaker 1: an online show or a DVD even. I think the 1083 00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 1: biggest thing is to be authentic. You know, don't be fake. 1084 00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: Don't you don't have to wear face paint. You don't 1085 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,560 Speaker 1: have to. If that's your thing, go far it, but 1086 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 1: you don't have to, you know, it doesn't I don't know, man. 1087 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:25,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we're partnered with some great people, 1088 00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,880 Speaker 1: some great sponsors. But you know, if you're just starting out, 1089 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 1: you can start small. You don't have to dive right 1090 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:34,120 Speaker 1: in and get everything. You know, you can start small 1091 00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 1: and figure out what fits you, what's good for you, 1092 00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,920 Speaker 1: what equipment you like. Go to a local archery shop, 1093 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,520 Speaker 1: and you know, even by doing that, you know, local 1094 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 1: archery shops a lot of times will push a product 1095 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: that they may be paid to push your you know, 1096 00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:52,080 Speaker 1: do research. That's the beauty of technology. Back to what 1097 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,040 Speaker 1: you're saying. Technology. You can just about find out anything 1098 00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:59,880 Speaker 1: you want on any product by googling it, by dance 1099 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:03,560 Speaker 1: review searches, you know, by looking at places like why 1100 00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,160 Speaker 1: Are to Hunt? There's all kinds of information on that website. 1101 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: So I think if I was a new hunter coming 1102 00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,880 Speaker 1: up and trying to figure out how to go about it, 1103 00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,200 Speaker 1: what to do, I'd i'd go online. I find out 1104 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: as much input as I could. I'd watch some TV 1105 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,240 Speaker 1: shows that and I'd be careful of what shows to watch. 1106 00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,959 Speaker 1: And I'm not knocking anybody, but you know, I think 1107 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,160 Speaker 1: as a producer, we always took it very seriously to 1108 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,160 Speaker 1: try to show how to hunt the right way, how 1109 00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 1: to hunt ethically, you know, respect your neighbors, respect nature. 1110 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,080 Speaker 1: You know, quartering, uh, quartering away angles, broadside angles, don't 1111 00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,760 Speaker 1: take quartering two shots if you're you know, hunting with 1112 00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,480 Speaker 1: archery equipment. It's just it's just stuff like that. I 1113 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: think you gotta be careful of who you're in in emulating, 1114 00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 1: you know. So it's uh, that's that's probably the best 1115 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,680 Speaker 1: advice I can give. And like you said, you can 1116 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: do it pretty cheap. Get a GoPro, get a little 1117 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,400 Speaker 1: HD Palm camera and get a buddy and go out 1118 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,200 Speaker 1: and tunn together. That's awesome. Yeah, I think that's where 1119 00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,240 Speaker 1: a lot of people are starting. And like you said, 1120 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:13,680 Speaker 1: it's amazing the resources out there today. You can really 1121 00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,640 Speaker 1: learn a lot. And you know, if you have the 1122 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,600 Speaker 1: dream and the passion to do something like that, you 1123 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 1: can do it. So you're absolutely right, you hit it, 1124 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: hit it well. There because I think a misconception a 1125 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,800 Speaker 1: lot of young kids nowadays. And I'm not saying that 1126 00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 1: at all, and I'm thirty three, but a lot of 1127 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: I get a lot of emails. I read every email 1128 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,280 Speaker 1: that comes to a website, all the social media stuff, 1129 00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:38,080 Speaker 1: I read all of it, and a lot of guys 1130 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: think a lot of young kids think you just we 1131 00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: just started out and it was like this always. Well, 1132 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: Mark and Terry worked very very hard to get to 1133 00:59:47,840 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 1: this point. So you know, I think people see Lee 1134 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 1: and Tiffany and they see like, you know, wat Hell 1135 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,840 Speaker 1: and those guys and think, well, then you know I 1136 00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,400 Speaker 1: can do that. Well, all those people worked really really 1137 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,440 Speaker 1: hard to get there. You know, a lot of these 1138 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 1: guys have been in the industry the entire history of 1139 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,240 Speaker 1: the industry, you know. So I think, you know, you've 1140 01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 1: got to be careful and thinking that you can go 1141 01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:14,600 Speaker 1: out and want to be on TV and it happen tomorrow. 1142 01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:17,280 Speaker 1: You gotta work hard, and you gotta have a little 1143 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 1: walk along the way, you know, and got to meet 1144 01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:24,560 Speaker 1: the right people and be authentic. That's great advice. Awesome advice. 1145 01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Well that being said, then, um two things. Number one. 1146 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 1: We talked about something a little bit before we got 1147 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:32,840 Speaker 1: in the air, Matt, and we never got touched on 1148 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:34,480 Speaker 1: it yet. But I know you guys have recently. In 1149 01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:36,880 Speaker 1: addition to putting out your new DVDs, I think you 1150 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:40,280 Speaker 1: also have them available now for to stream on your 1151 01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: on your website, which I think is pretty cool. Can 1152 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,000 Speaker 1: you tell us really quick a little bit more about that. Yeah, 1153 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,280 Speaker 1: we're calling it Drury on Demand d o D. And 1154 01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:52,000 Speaker 1: basic principle here is, you know, with technology, a lot 1155 01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:55,800 Speaker 1: of people they're not buying duds anymore. They want to 1156 01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,560 Speaker 1: straight on their phone or their tablet or their computer. 1157 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:03,120 Speaker 1: And uh so we teamed up with a company called 1158 01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:07,000 Speaker 1: r l X Media and they're actually our DVD duplicators. 1159 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 1: They have been for decade and they came up with 1160 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:14,880 Speaker 1: this technology. It's a secure technology and basically we've put 1161 01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: it on our website. So what happens is you go 1162 01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:19,320 Speaker 1: to our website and you go to the Jury on 1163 01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:24,280 Speaker 1: Demand portion in our store, and every DVD we've ever 1164 01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:26,880 Speaker 1: done in the last you know, since we've been doing duds, 1165 01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:30,800 Speaker 1: not vhs, but since we've been doing DVDs, every DVD 1166 01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 1: is available for download. You just go to the store, 1167 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 1: you click it, you purchased the download, and you'll get 1168 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:42,320 Speaker 1: an email from us UH that comes your inbox and 1169 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:46,120 Speaker 1: it you click a link you go download this free 1170 01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,680 Speaker 1: r l X player. And what it does is it 1171 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:52,400 Speaker 1: gives you three licenses. It gives you one for your smartphone, 1172 01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,520 Speaker 1: it gives you one for your tablet and one for 1173 01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,840 Speaker 1: your computer. And the DVD you bought it lives on 1174 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,720 Speaker 1: the cloud. It's you can download, you can delete, you 1175 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,120 Speaker 1: can read, download any time you want. All you gotta 1176 01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:08,200 Speaker 1: do is have a really good internet connection, but it 1177 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: allows you to download that straight to whatever device are 1178 01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:14,360 Speaker 1: all three if you wanted at any given time. You 1179 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 1: just kind of have a good Internet connection. And it's 1180 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,840 Speaker 1: such a cool technology. I've been so impressed with the 1181 01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:23,840 Speaker 1: quality of it. You literally it's got all the DVD features, 1182 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,120 Speaker 1: it's got the functionality, the chapter menus, that bonus features, 1183 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 1: everything the DVD has all right there if the touch 1184 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 1: of your fingertips. So if you ever were to watch 1185 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,920 Speaker 1: a dud from your iPhone and a tree stand, if 1186 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:41,680 Speaker 1: it's slow, just pop in your headphones, you know, and 1187 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,160 Speaker 1: you can watch it. Now. It's it's a very very 1188 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,439 Speaker 1: cool technology, and we're going to start pushing it pretty 1189 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:49,560 Speaker 1: heavy to this year. I think people are really really 1190 01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:51,800 Speaker 1: going to get into it. That's awesome. Well, I'm definitely 1191 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: gonna check it out. I'm I'm heading out to Colorado 1192 01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:56,520 Speaker 1: here pretty soon. I've got a nineteen hour drive, so 1193 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure I'm gonna pull up a DVD or two 1194 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,000 Speaker 1: are my phone or iPad and and has some enjoyment 1195 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,439 Speaker 1: with that. So very cool. Well, I appreciate it. Yeah, 1196 01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: it's it's just Dreury Outdoors dot Com. And I think 1197 01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,000 Speaker 1: I think people are really going to enjoy it. Awesome. 1198 01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: And so also, if anyone wants to get more information 1199 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 1: about what you guys are doing, your TV shows, your DVDs, 1200 01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:16,480 Speaker 1: is that the same website that they should go to 1201 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:19,920 Speaker 1: for more information? Yeah? Absolutely. So if you go to 1202 01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:25,400 Speaker 1: www dot Drewy outdoors dot com all on word, you 1203 01:03:25,440 --> 01:03:27,960 Speaker 1: can hit our Facebook, you can get to Facebook, you 1204 01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 1: can get to our Twitter, you can get to our Instagram, YouTube, 1205 01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 1: anything you anyfo you want on Drey Outdoors. You can 1206 01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:38,360 Speaker 1: start at Drey Outdoors dot com and find it. It's 1207 01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 1: it's really we just launched the new website about three 1208 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 1: weeks ago and it's optimized for the mobile or computer. 1209 01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,919 Speaker 1: It's it you can check out all the journal entry. 1210 01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 1: So when our teams out there and they're killing deer, 1211 01:03:50,440 --> 01:03:53,600 Speaker 1: killing turkeys or whatever, all those kills going to our 1212 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 1: journal and you can follow along with the team and share, 1213 01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,960 Speaker 1: you know, your favorite hern on Facebook or social media. 1214 01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,160 Speaker 1: You and then let your friends see it. It's it's 1215 01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,520 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Nice. All right. Well, we'll be sure 1216 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,520 Speaker 1: to include that link in the show notes so that 1217 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 1: folks can click over that and check everything out. And 1218 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,280 Speaker 1: you know that said, Thanks so much, Matt. This has 1219 01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:14,840 Speaker 1: been really interesting and I think some interesting insight into 1220 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:16,800 Speaker 1: the business and uh, you know how you and your 1221 01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,760 Speaker 1: family have been so successful. So it's been great. Thank you, 1222 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 1: Thank you guys for the opportunity. I really appreciate it. 1223 01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:25,280 Speaker 1: And keep doing what you're doing. Man. I think the 1224 01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 1: platform that you give guys, like I said, not just 1225 01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 1: in these podcasts, but the information that you put out 1226 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 1: in your blogs and and whatever, the links you know 1227 01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,640 Speaker 1: to this product about product review, I think it's really 1228 01:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 1: helpful to the hunter out there. And just keep keep 1229 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,920 Speaker 1: up the great work. Okay, I appreciate We will do 1230 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:45,920 Speaker 1: that and let's be in touch soon. All right, talk 1231 01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,560 Speaker 1: to you guys soon, all right, thanks Matt, all right, 1232 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,760 Speaker 1: good bye. All Right. I thought that was a pretty 1233 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,120 Speaker 1: cool conversation and I hope you guys enjoyed it too. 1234 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,200 Speaker 1: And with that, we're going to wrap things up here 1235 01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 1: on the Weird Hunting Podcast. So that said, thank you 1236 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 1: so much to all of you that join us here today. 1237 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,480 Speaker 1: As always, if you enjoyed the show, we would definitely 1238 01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:07,480 Speaker 1: appreciate it if you can leave a rating or review 1239 01:05:07,560 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 1: on iTunes, and you know, if you do live review 1240 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 1: and happen to include a recommended random or crazy question 1241 01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,480 Speaker 1: for one of our future guests, we might just use 1242 01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,920 Speaker 1: it in the show. So there's that thank you in 1243 01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,840 Speaker 1: advance for taking the time to do that. Speaking of thanks, 1244 01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,439 Speaker 1: we also like to thank our excellent partners who helped 1245 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,200 Speaker 1: make this show possible so big thanks to Sick Gear, 1246 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:31,360 Speaker 1: Butional Optics, Trophy Ridge, Bear Archery, Redneck Blinds, Carbon Express Arrows, 1247 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,520 Speaker 1: Lacrosse Boots, Big and J, long Range Attractants, and the 1248 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: White Tail Institute of North America. 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