WEBVTT - Curses and Chemistry with Katelyn

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are here with Caitlin. Caitlin the radio chemist

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<v Speaker 1>from Joey season. Because that's such an interesting, cool job,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think you may be the first radio chemist

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<v Speaker 1>ever on the Bachelor.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe it is a pretty rare profession, so I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>be surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what can you explain? For for dummies? How do you? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>how how would you explain what you do? So?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't go into too much detail, but breadio chemistry

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<v Speaker 2>as profession is when you separate out octimize or radio

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<v Speaker 2>newclides from a given substance and determined how much is

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<v Speaker 2>in there. I told you that.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you that. Go ahead, you guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I knew that, sure, Joe, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I don't know if I can say much more,

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<v Speaker 2>but that's pretty much like the gift of it, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>just just just the gist of it.

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<v Speaker 4>So how did you end up in this career then?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I've imagined you didn't grow up being like I

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<v Speaker 3>just want to be a radio chemist.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So I've always been really good at like stam math, chemistry,

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<v Speaker 2>all those things, and so going into college like obviously

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do something you're good at. It's just

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<v Speaker 2>like I do a human nature. So I decided to

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<v Speaker 2>study chemistry and then really my focus in undergrad was

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<v Speaker 2>inorganic chemistry, like I did a lot of work with

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<v Speaker 2>like Lanthani complex structures and just like material sciences. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I graduated in May of twenty twenty, which was

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like when COVID hit all of the research

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<v Speaker 2>facilities that I applied to, they had withdrawn applications because

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<v Speaker 2>they just didn't have the funds. And so I just

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<v Speaker 2>took like a quick little break. And basically my old

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<v Speaker 2>lab mate in one of my classes had been like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>what if you joined my lab? And I was like, huh,

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<v Speaker 2>I like looked it up. I'm like, oh man, this

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<v Speaker 2>is prestigious. I should really look into this. And so honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of just like fell into my lap in

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<v Speaker 2>a way. And now I find like a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>fun in radio chemistry, like I find a lot of interest.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was never my intent to go into radio chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>Gotcha, where are you from?

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<v Speaker 2>So I grew up in Texas, but I went to

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<v Speaker 2>college in Austin, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>What's school?

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<v Speaker 2>The University of Texas.

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<v Speaker 4>And then do you think, because you're saying, is that.

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<v Speaker 1>The only that might be the only college there?

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<v Speaker 2>Like, no, there's there's a bunch that was.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry Joe into the College of Grocery Stores and the

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<v Speaker 3>water tracks. So different career history. But so you said

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of fell into radio chemis astray. That wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>always the intention or the goal. Do you think you'll

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<v Speaker 3>stay in that career path or do you have other

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<v Speaker 3>avenues that you want to explore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so, I'm currently applying to master's programs for medical

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<v Speaker 2>physics and medical dysymmetry. I've been doing interviews so hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>they go well. So I'm looking into staying in radiation.

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<v Speaker 2>But just like in a different avenue, I would.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, and where are you currently? Where do you live now?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you still in Texas?

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<v Speaker 2>No, so, I live in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I

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<v Speaker 2>moved here for my job.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, okay, oh cool, cool, I've been. I've been. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been the Santa Fe once.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah really yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a cool little city.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, It's amazing. It has so much culture and one

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<v Speaker 2>thing I love about Santa Fe is you can make

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<v Speaker 2>friends anywhere. Like I moved there and only knowing one person,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean friends in like a coffee shop at a bar,

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<v Speaker 2>and I still talk to them to this day. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's just like one of those like neat little cities

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<v Speaker 2>where everyone's just so sociable.

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<v Speaker 4>I love it crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like that's so rare, Like I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>that's the opposite of what most people say when they

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<v Speaker 3>move to a new city, is like, oh it's so

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<v Speaker 3>hard to like meet new people.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I never really felt that. I just like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>during COVID it was hard, so I waited until like

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<v Speaker 2>restrictions lifted, but I ended up meeting like a great

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<v Speaker 2>friends there.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think it's a it's more that you are

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<v Speaker 3>like an extroverted social person, or do you think there's

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<v Speaker 3>just like a strong sense of community there.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a strong sense of community there. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not extraverted. I would say maybe more so in

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<v Speaker 2>the past now, But I've never been really like the

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<v Speaker 2>one to be like. I never liked a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>attention on myself or anything like that. So I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like it's just when you're in such a small community

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<v Speaker 2>scan I face only like eighty thousand people, and most

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<v Speaker 2>of them are like retired folk. So when you see

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<v Speaker 2>someone under like thirty five, you're like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 4>How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's like I know everyone within at least

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<v Speaker 2>like one degree separation that's under thirty five in Santa Fe.

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<v Speaker 4>I was in Hilton Head.

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<v Speaker 3>I was living there for like three four months with

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<v Speaker 3>a friend of mine after university, and we were there

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<v Speaker 3>from September to December, which is not the summer months.

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<v Speaker 3>So like everyone that's young when was our age that

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<v Speaker 3>was back away going to school, and I remember we

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<v Speaker 3>were like, we're the youngest people on this island, Like

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<v Speaker 3>we need to find like hunt down some people that

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<v Speaker 3>are our age.

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<v Speaker 1>Make sure you ask Alan about New Mexico. Just shut

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<v Speaker 1>your notes, Okay, So to find out whatever that. What

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<v Speaker 1>was dating life like for you before before going on

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<v Speaker 1>the Bachelor?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So not good. Dating in Santa Fe was pretty

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<v Speaker 2>hard for me. I would say I just felt like

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<v Speaker 2>there weren't like again, the population of people is just

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<v Speaker 2>so small, and then the single people are even smaller,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, I don't know, it was just so difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to find anyone that I could date. And then out

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<v Speaker 2>of those people, it wasn't like anything ever truly clicked,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I never felt butterflies or anything, or like I

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<v Speaker 2>never could get past like the fourth date, Like it

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<v Speaker 2>just couldn't happen for.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, you trust?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think though, Like I feel like if there's

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<v Speaker 3>only so many people under thirty five, like after a while,

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<v Speaker 3>you must have been like I've dated everyone in this freaking city.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh for sure. And also you also have to like

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of, like subtract all the people that your

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<v Speaker 2>friends have gone out with too, so it's like it

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<v Speaker 2>gets even smaller and smaller. And yeah, there's come a

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<v Speaker 2>point where I just like quit dating, like maybe like

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<v Speaker 2>a couple months before the show, I was like, or

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months before I applied to be on

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<v Speaker 2>the show. Rather, I was like, m m, this.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it for me?

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<v Speaker 2>I guess No.

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<v Speaker 3>I have friends that are like single and on that

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<v Speaker 3>dating grind and they're like it starts off fun, and

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<v Speaker 3>after a while you just get dating fatigue and you're like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm deleting all the apps for a few months and

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<v Speaker 3>taking a break, like I cannot go on another first date.

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<v Speaker 2>It gets exhausting.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you buying into your family curse of like everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>single and maybe it's just not for me?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I feel like our curse is more of a

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<v Speaker 2>nice thing to blame our problems on. It's not like

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<v Speaker 2>we necessarily like believe it. But and also I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like my my mom and my aunts they're just so

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<v Speaker 2>independent that they just like or they've felt love and

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<v Speaker 2>they just like haven't felt that again, you know what

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<v Speaker 2>I mean. So it's more like not giving into something

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<v Speaker 2>that you know you're not worth like not worthy of

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<v Speaker 2>that's not the right word, but you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like you don't want to go into something when

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<v Speaker 2>you know it's not the one for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to send.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to settle. I don't want to settle.

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<v Speaker 2>And it took me like a while to realize that.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know, in earlier years, I definitely fell into

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<v Speaker 2>relationships way too quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>So and obviously there was a part of you that

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<v Speaker 1>that was kidding when you were talking about it on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. But when you when your mom and your

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<v Speaker 1>aunts watched it back, what did they What did they say?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Well, I mean they were just they

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<v Speaker 2>thought it was so funny. They were like, I cannot

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<v Speaker 2>believe they aired this. I was like convinced that they

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<v Speaker 2>were going to add like editing on it with like

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<v Speaker 2>voodoo lights and little orbs or something. I was so

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<v Speaker 2>convinced we're going to do that. But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they were prepared for the worst. I was like, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>like sorry, like I did mention you, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about the curse all the time and they're

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<v Speaker 2>such like lighthearted and fun people, so they didn't care

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<v Speaker 2>at all.

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<v Speaker 4>That's good. That's so fun.

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<v Speaker 3>So then dating life was not it. How did you

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<v Speaker 3>end up on the Bachelor?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh.

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<v Speaker 2>So my best friend nominated me on the Bachelor, and

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<v Speaker 2>then I was like, whys can you believe it? Like

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<v Speaker 2>nomine me to be on the Bachelor, and then a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of my friends did it all of a sudden.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, gosh, shit, I should just like nominate myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it was just kind of like my friend

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<v Speaker 2>saw that, like I just gone on another day and

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<v Speaker 2>it wasn't working, and she was like, you need to

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<v Speaker 2>go where they have pre vetted someone and you know

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<v Speaker 2>that they're going to be a good person.

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<v Speaker 1>You always say that.

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<v Speaker 3>I do because as women, like if you meet a

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<v Speaker 3>guy at a bar where you don't have like a

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<v Speaker 3>mutual friend like with them or something like that. You're like,

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<v Speaker 3>you're not pre vetted, Like you could be totally crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>you could be a scumbag, and it's gonna take me

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<v Speaker 3>a decent amount of time, like at least for four

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<v Speaker 3>dates to figure that out for myself. Whereas when you

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<v Speaker 3>go on The Bachelor or like Bachelor in Paradise or

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<v Speaker 3>any of these shows, it's like, Okay, sure, like someone

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<v Speaker 3>could still kind of be a scumbag, I guess, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's like they're pre vetted.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, they're not crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>You know they're like emotionally available, you know they're genuinely

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<v Speaker 3>looking for a relationship. Sorry to just take over, Caitlin,

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<v Speaker 3>but I always say like there's a for women.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like it's a big thing, be like this

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<v Speaker 4>guy's pre vetted.

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<v Speaker 2>No exactly, and especially the part where they're looking for

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<v Speaker 2>a relationship. I feel like a lot of guys pretend

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<v Speaker 2>that they are and I'm like, oh, I really like you,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like, well, I'm not ready for anything yet,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, well.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, so let's know we're back in ch acause

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<v Speaker 1>I feel so Caitlyn Serena really needs to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>like in chronological order, these interviews. So when I jumped

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and asked about your your bob and your aunt,

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<v Speaker 1>I could just feel I could feel the anxiety in

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<v Speaker 1>the room.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, just like a linear thinker.

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<v Speaker 1>So okay, so you get on, So you get on,

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<v Speaker 1>and what are your thoughts? Did you know Joey was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the Bachelor? What were your thoughts when

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<v Speaker 1>you found out it was going to be him?

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<v Speaker 2>So I had no idea it was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>him until, you know, when they announced him on TV,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like so psyched, Like me and my

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<v Speaker 2>friends were like doing dances all around the kitchen because

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<v Speaker 2>in all honesty, like obviously like I want to find

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<v Speaker 2>this my person, and I want to go on the

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<v Speaker 2>show for someone that's like vetted and I know they

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<v Speaker 2>have the same goals in mind. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't really willing to go on for someone that

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I couldn't be interested in or you know,

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't attracted to. And so when I saw it was Joey,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's just like the most amazing, nice, sweet person

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<v Speaker 2>I've ever met with, like golden retriever energy, which is

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<v Speaker 2>like definitely my type. I was just so psyched and

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<v Speaker 2>that's when I was like really locked in, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>when I told my work. I was like, hey, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like piece it out for a little bit.

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<v Speaker 4>That's awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I feel like a lot of the women from

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<v Speaker 3>your season were super happy to find out it was

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<v Speaker 3>Joey for sure. Yeah, so you get on the show

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<v Speaker 3>it's Night one. Can you tell us about the dress

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<v Speaker 3>that you wore, because I feel like it was like

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<v Speaker 3>super memorable and fall but like definitely a unique silhouette

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<v Speaker 3>compared to what we usually see for like Night one gowns,

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<v Speaker 3>Like how did you find it?

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<v Speaker 4>Where's it from? How'd you pick it?

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm half Vietnamese, so that's like my culture and

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<v Speaker 2>I mostly grew up with my mom, who immigrated here

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<v Speaker 2>when she was seventeen or eighteen, and so I've always

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<v Speaker 2>warned what that dress is called an auii and it's

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<v Speaker 2>just like our traditional dress in Vietnam, and we normally

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<v Speaker 2>wear it for like formal occasions and in the past,

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<v Speaker 2>they like worked to school and like teachers wear it,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like very common in Vietnam. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this was like a formal occasion. To me, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to meet someone tonight that could I could

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<v Speaker 2>potentially be engaged too. I want him to know my

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<v Speaker 2>culture and like see it on me, even if we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have like a conversation about it. It's just like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you willing to accept something that's like a little

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<v Speaker 2>different than just like, you know, the normal like promisque dresses,

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<v Speaker 2>which obviously I wear in the future as well. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's called an ALII And the whole point is

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<v Speaker 2>to be completely modest, So you're covered all the head

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<v Speaker 2>to toe and we have like pants underneath, so there's

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<v Speaker 2>like a slit. The whole point is like femininity can

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<v Speaker 2>still be seen through modesty.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm obsessed. That's amazing. It was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked amazing on you, And I just think that's

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<v Speaker 3>such a great way to incorporate something special about you

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<v Speaker 3>and your culture because you just never know how much

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<v Speaker 3>time you're going to get with the lead and just

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<v Speaker 3>to be like, hey, this is me and I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to like tell you about it, but I'm also going

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<v Speaker 3>to show you a part of who I am as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Is really spec what a cool story too, Like if

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<v Speaker 1>you ask me, like what I wore A Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>where'd you get I got out of this store. That's

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<v Speaker 1>about the extent. So okay, So how about the other

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<v Speaker 1>women in the house? Any who are you friends with?

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you kind of like don't like this person?

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<v Speaker 2>So in my limo was kelsey A, and I just

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<v Speaker 2>like immediately became really good friends with her. She is

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<v Speaker 2>such a wonderful energy, and she wasn't nervous at all too,

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<v Speaker 2>which is why I think I like gravitated towards her

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<v Speaker 2>that first night, because I was like obscenely nervous, like

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<v Speaker 2>I'd never been that nervous in my whole life. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't even like keep down a cookie and I

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<v Speaker 2>love cookies. Like that was like unheard of me.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your favorite cookie? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>My god, peanut butter.

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<v Speaker 1>Peanut butter cookies, Matt, I love peanut butter cookies. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't have peanut butter cookies in the house because Serena

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<v Speaker 1>is allergic to nuts. But I do, I do love

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<v Speaker 1>a peanut butter cookie.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, I know, I'm just a burden. I'n just diet.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. I mean, also, I haven't really been eating peanut

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<v Speaker 1>butter that much because supposedly there's like a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>mold in peanut Butter.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, have you seen this?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I know, So you're welcome. Actually I'm saving

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<v Speaker 3>your life.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm sure once it gets heated, like it goes away.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't know you're the radio chemist.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there's a cross over there, joists.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so okay, So Kelsey Kelsey A.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think we've seen that.

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<v Speaker 3>Like in the last episode on the group day, we

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<v Speaker 3>see you guys like kind of confiding in each other

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<v Speaker 3>about the difficulty of that specific group day, and just

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<v Speaker 3>like I feel like clips if I always see you

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<v Speaker 3>guys like sitting together and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we were definitely close. And then I got close

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<v Speaker 2>with Daisy. And I didn't know this the first night

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<v Speaker 2>about her cochlear implant, but I was just getting like

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<v Speaker 2>so overwhelmeding in like a room like so many people.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept like finding places that were quiet and like

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<v Speaker 2>lone pold Das was there, which like makes sense like

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<v Speaker 2>the day after when I found that out. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I became close with her because we were just like

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<v Speaker 2>talking about like how overwhelming. I was like, can you

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<v Speaker 2>believe we're here? You know, that sort of conversation. And

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<v Speaker 2>then honestly, I didn't get to talk to everyone night

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<v Speaker 2>one just because I feel like I was so in

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<v Speaker 2>my own head that I didn't really feel like I

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<v Speaker 2>got bad vibes from any one night one.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you how about like now like mid season,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone give you bad vibes?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's be a little more specific with it, because

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<v Speaker 3>there's definitely we've seen a lot of drama in the house.

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<v Speaker 3>We haven't seen you involved in any of it, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>but you were there. I'm sure you have your opinions

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<v Speaker 3>on it. The main it seems like there's like kind

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<v Speaker 3>of two sides and then like a middle ground. We've

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<v Speaker 3>got like Maria and then we've got Sidney, Lea and Jess.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel like you were close with any of

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<v Speaker 3>these girls? Where do you think you kind of like

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<v Speaker 3>fell in the mix of the drama?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So, I would say it for the drama itself,

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<v Speaker 2>I was definitely more neutral. Like I have spoken with

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<v Speaker 2>Maria and I've said this time and time again. She

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<v Speaker 2>does have like such a positive energy and she never

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<v Speaker 2>puts people down, but her conflict style is like way

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<v Speaker 2>more aggressive than I think a lot of the other

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<v Speaker 2>girls are. And then I'm really close with Lea like

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<v Speaker 2>we were roommates in the hotels in Malta, and I

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<v Speaker 2>love Jess. We were like our little like bees together,

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<v Speaker 2>so we were always like close, but neither of them

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<v Speaker 2>held it against me that you know, I was friends

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<v Speaker 2>with the other. Like neither one encouraged to like need

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<v Speaker 2>a talk shit or anything like that. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>both the girls, like have both sets of girls to

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<v Speaker 2>have such positive light around them that it's like disappointing

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<v Speaker 2>that it went this way. But I can't understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like people have different conflict styles, So.

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<v Speaker 4>What do you think it was?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I totally agree, like it does seem like there's

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<v Speaker 3>conflict and like, yeah, different ways, even like with Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>and Maria, Like they definitely are different in the way

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<v Speaker 3>like they communicate and their conflict styles. What do you

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<v Speaker 3>think it was that was sparking this conflict because it

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<v Speaker 3>does be like there's like on a personal level tension

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<v Speaker 3>between these girls.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's I don't even know because I remember I

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<v Speaker 2>just come in from talking with Joey that night and

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<v Speaker 2>I walked in and I was like, something's amiss, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I missed something. I don't know what's going on, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's maybe more just like insisting that, like

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<v Speaker 2>Marie was insisting, like who asked? Who told you this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like who told you this? And then Sydney was very

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<v Speaker 2>insistent as well, like well this isn't cool like whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>So and so, I don't know, it was just a

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<v Speaker 2>lot for me. And I'm definitely like more of like

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<v Speaker 2>a hands off sort of person like and be like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we can disagree and that's okay with me. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. It was hard for me to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, oh the same way, like we could disagree and

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<v Speaker 1>we get still be friends. Yeah, okay, So let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>fast forward to present time in the show, and you

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<v Speaker 1>are one of the women that are on this group date,

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<v Speaker 1>which is you guys play hockey. Something happens before the.

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<v Speaker 2>Dancing and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, there was a saying, oh yeah, we forgot

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<v Speaker 3>about the singing dancing moment. This gavenger Head group date

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<v Speaker 3>was a lot. What were your thoughts on it?

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<v Speaker 1>Again, because we do see you catch you pull Joey

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<v Speaker 1>to the side, and you are you struggled a little

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<v Speaker 1>with the date.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but you're definitely not the only one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I feel like going into this group date,

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<v Speaker 2>I was already putting like a lot of pressure, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess in Montreal because I knew it was only one

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<v Speaker 2>more week and then hometowns. So I guess in my

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<v Speaker 2>head it was immediately like, if I don't get on

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<v Speaker 2>one on one this week, I don't think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>make it, Like, to be honest, like, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>neither of us will have enough time to make sure

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm ready for him to meet my family and

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<v Speaker 2>he's ready to meet my family. So I initially put

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of pressure on my going into Montreal, and

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<v Speaker 2>then Joey doubled down and staid, like, this is very important.

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<v Speaker 2>We had like a pretty somber tone, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>to the start of it. And then obviously I found

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<v Speaker 2>out that I'm not getting a one on one. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on this group date. So yeah, I had like a

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<v Speaker 2>hard time with this group date, mostly because this felt

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<v Speaker 2>like a date that you would kind of do just

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<v Speaker 2>with one person, Like it didn't feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the other dates were so.

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<v Speaker 4>Like yeah in a group Yeah, it felt like this structure.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it felt like the structure of this group date

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<v Speaker 3>was not cohesive to a group date, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 3>Like it felt really challenging for him to get around

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<v Speaker 3>to everyone, Like it feels like it's something you do

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<v Speaker 3>with a group of friends, or you would do it

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<v Speaker 3>with just one other person, like.

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<v Speaker 2>A sidewalk can only fit Joey plus one other girl,

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<v Speaker 2>and then anytime you were that girl, you're like love me,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like I also feel like on the like a date,

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<v Speaker 3>I would have gotten discouraged and been like I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>fighting my way up to the front, Like I'm just

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<v Speaker 3>gonna hang in the back and be annoyed.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably that's definitely what I was like. And I'm also

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<v Speaker 2>definitely more of a passive person, Like I'm not someone

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<v Speaker 2>who's gonna like throw an elbow to get to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to someone all friends. Yeah, I'm like, I'm not interested

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<v Speaker 2>in like throwing anyone under the bus, but also I

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<v Speaker 2>want someone else to like make a move and like

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<v Speaker 2>show that you're interested and in that group. Date was

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<v Speaker 2>hard because I don't I didn't felt like he did

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<v Speaker 2>that with really anyone. And I know it's probably because

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone was coming up to him and try to

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<v Speaker 2>take his time, but it would have been nice to

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<v Speaker 2>have like that validation throughout the date.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, totally, No, it was a hard date to watch,

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<v Speaker 3>just knowing how probably hard it was to be on

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<v Speaker 3>that date. Like, I really empathize with you guys and

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<v Speaker 3>Joey because it was just a difficult dynamic. Was there

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<v Speaker 3>anyone that you felt like was really like you explained that,

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<v Speaker 3>you feel like you're more passive, as like someone who

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<v Speaker 3>didn't want to be like pushing their way to the front.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there anyone on the date that you felt was

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<v Speaker 3>doing that, not even in like a negative way, but

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<v Speaker 3>that was maybe just more their style really going for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like Jen is definitely like that sort

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<v Speaker 2>of person, and I commend her for it, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>wish I was like that. She's definitely like a very

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<v Speaker 2>confident person and would always like go to Joey and

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<v Speaker 2>like shown little things and point out things. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh man, I wish I could do that. At point,

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<v Speaker 2>Tommy wasn't mad at me because I was so anxious. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like Jen really like shows her best self,

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<v Speaker 2>like on camera and in front of a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's not afraid to show herself, which is really cool.

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<v Speaker 3>So then you have your conversation. We see you and

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<v Speaker 3>kelsey A have a little chat and just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>you guys are talking about how you're both struggling on

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<v Speaker 3>the date, and then we see you talk to Joey

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<v Speaker 3>that night and you just kind of open up about

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<v Speaker 3>like how it was hard.

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<v Speaker 4>How did that conversation go?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I guess it went okay. I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>I I think we have like an honest conversation, which

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<v Speaker 2>is always good. It did leave me with like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a sinking feeling, though, just because I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>we both kind of agreed that, you know, it just

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<v Speaker 2>like it wasn't going at the pace that we needed

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<v Speaker 2>to go. Like, we never had a one on one

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<v Speaker 2>and I never really pushed myself so hard or like

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<v Speaker 2>got out of my head enough during these group dates

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<v Speaker 2>to really like make myself seen. So that was like

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<v Speaker 2>a really difficult conversation to have, I feel like, and

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<v Speaker 2>just to be like open about because I'm not used

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<v Speaker 2>to like having to fight for a guy. And then

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<v Speaker 2>also just to be vulnerable in front of someone I

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<v Speaker 2>haven't known that long, in in front of cameras too,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so scary.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it is scary.

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<v Speaker 3>So you left that kind of with the sinking feeling.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there a part of you that was wondering if

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<v Speaker 3>you might be going home that week.

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<v Speaker 2>I felt almost positive I was going home that week, sadly,

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<v Speaker 2>just because I hadn't had that one open time, and

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<v Speaker 2>then my time with Joey was really spent talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how I wish I had time versus like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>furthering your relationship. So yeah, I didn't feel too great

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like, though, and tell me, tell me if

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<v Speaker 3>you disagree, but do you feel like it was kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like, how do I want to phrase this? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>were you in any way a little bit grateful that

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<v Speaker 3>he was kind of honest with you in that conversation

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<v Speaker 3>about where your relationship was at versus just being like

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<v Speaker 3>dumping a bunch of reassurance on you in that moment

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<v Speaker 3>to leave the conversation feeling a lot better at the time,

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<v Speaker 3>but then not getting rows with the row ceremony.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciated his honesty, and I feel like me

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<v Speaker 2>not getting a rose later or like leaving later in

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<v Speaker 2>the week would have been so much tougher on me.

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<v Speaker 2>If I felt like he had said, like, oh, we're

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<v Speaker 2>like totally there, like don't worry about it, like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so confident about you, Like that would have made me

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<v Speaker 2>feel sorry, like a different way about it. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>really glad that he was honest with me, as I

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<v Speaker 2>was honest with him too.

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<v Speaker 3>Was there any girls that you were surprised when they

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<v Speaker 3>went home or maybe are surprised that they were still there,

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<v Speaker 3>like I didn't realize like they had such a strong connection.

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<v Speaker 2>No. I feel like the six girls that were left

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<v Speaker 2>after Leye and I left, I felt like they had

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<v Speaker 2>a strong connection. Like I was, like I was having

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time even in my head, like who would

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<v Speaker 2>even be going to hometowns? Like I had no idea

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<v Speaker 2>who he was going to cut. But I was surprised

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<v Speaker 2>that Lexi left because I thought they had a strong connection.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we like talked about like her timeline

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<v Speaker 2>and stuff like that, so it made sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Well I just want to ask, you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>you feel comfortable sharing if not, no problem, because I

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<v Speaker 3>know it's a bit of a personal question for Lexi.

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<v Speaker 3>But she we never got to see what her timeline

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<v Speaker 3>that she was kind of looking for. Did she ever

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<v Speaker 3>speak with you guys about that. I know that Joey

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<v Speaker 3>articulated his is she just kind of looking for a

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<v Speaker 3>more like rapid pace? Because I know she just said

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<v Speaker 3>like they don't align was kind of the messaging we

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<v Speaker 3>got as viewers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I know Joey mentioned that he wants like

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<v Speaker 2>a longer engagement and like a longer marriage before having kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just don't think that Lexi has that in mind.

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<v Speaker 2>I think she knows exactly what she wants and I

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<v Speaker 2>applot her for it. So yeah, I think she just

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<v Speaker 2>wants like a shorter timeframe to have her kids sooner,

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<v Speaker 2>just because of her health issues and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>So yeah, really, which absolutely makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, makes sense to get into it. Let's play a game. Game.

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<v Speaker 1>A question though, is if we we're gonna have game.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of fun. If if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>get if they did a Bachelor in Paradise and they

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<v Speaker 1>asked you to go, would you hell?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I mean, look, you guys came out of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to find my person, even if it's

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<v Speaker 2>through something unconventional like paradise. Yeah, I think it would

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<v Speaker 2>be really fun. I don't know if I'd look forward

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<v Speaker 2>to like sweating that much, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It like it like varies every season, Like I feel

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<v Speaker 3>like every year it's different. Our season was crazy hot,

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<v Speaker 3>we had tear and like we had storms and stuff,

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<v Speaker 3>but then we didn't have any bugs because it was

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<v Speaker 3>so hot, whereas then the following two years I heard

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<v Speaker 3>that it wasn't that like last year. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>like wasn't that hot at all, but it was crazy buggy.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like pick your poison, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, also, you have to tell all coming up anything

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<v Speaker 1>you're excited about.

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<v Speaker 2>For that, I don't even know if I'm excited. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just like nervous because I know, like with everything airing,

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<v Speaker 2>like emotions have been arising again and bubbling up. So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just like nervous to see the conflict again because

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<v Speaker 2>like being there in person, it's just so overwhelming. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like really really loud arg and it can just

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<v Speaker 2>get to be a lot. I really am excited though,

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<v Speaker 2>for both girls to like get to share more of

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<v Speaker 2>their story and like why they felt that way, because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like the show obviously like we have so

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<v Speaker 2>much to show or sorry, we have so much that

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<v Speaker 2>we have filmed, but not a lot can be shown,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I feel like it's a good time for

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<v Speaker 2>the girls to have like that full hour to like

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<v Speaker 2>really talk about it and get to the bottom of

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<v Speaker 2>things and hopefully everyone can be friends after this.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, hopefully they don't take up the whole hour

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<v Speaker 1>because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sure to know what happens. I'm sure they're going

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<v Speaker 3>to take up a good portion of it. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I think the towel is always a great time to

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<v Speaker 3>get more insight into like more details about the drama,

0:29:12.840 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 3>maybe things that weren't shown, and just more context for

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<v Speaker 3>the viewers and sometimes an opportunity for reconciliation. If Sydney

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<v Speaker 3>Mario Walkerway's friends, I'll literally be floored.

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<v Speaker 4>But you never know, anything could happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be so shocked, but I do hope it happened,

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<v Speaker 2>or at least all the other girls in a want too.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, rapid fire, rapid fire, it comes. Yeah, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>do it, Okay, first thing that comes to your head.

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<v Speaker 4>Just they're all just like easy, fun questions about you,

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 4>No need to stress.

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<v Speaker 1>Sneakers or heels for a night out.

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<v Speaker 2>Sneakers, I'm five to ten, dude.

0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:53.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah you're tall? Wait were you taller than Joey?

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<v Speaker 2>No? Actually, when I wore my heels and he wore his,

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<v Speaker 2>like I don't know, like loafers like this equated to

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<v Speaker 2>like the he was fairly taller.

0:30:03.480 --> 0:30:08.400
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Kelsey a seems tall too, right, mm hmm, she's.

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<v Speaker 2>Just in shorter than me. I also think that's why

0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:11.600
<v Speaker 2>we got a long because we got to share some

0:30:11.640 --> 0:30:12.640
<v Speaker 2>many clothes and shoes.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I feel like you Kelsey and Lexie were always

0:30:17.160 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 3>sharing clothes always yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Always dream vacation destination.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Well, I'm going to Patigoingia next week,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's like always gonna dream of mind. Yeah. I'm

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 2>a big like hiker and climber, so I'm excited.

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<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. An artist you'd love to see perform.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh. Tate McRae, no way.

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<v Speaker 3>I think she's like the city I grew up in.

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<v Speaker 3>Really yeah, I think she's how old is she? She's

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<v Speaker 3>like a few years younger than.

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 1>He is young, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but one of the guys I used to dance

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<v Speaker 3>like against a competition is like her backup dancer, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh my gosh, yeah, random connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite favorite date this season, Oh my gosh, the tennis

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<v Speaker 1>date was so fun, so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I loved that date.

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<v Speaker 1>Night owl or early bird.

0:31:10.360 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 2>My god, neither. I'm like an old lady. I like

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:15.480
<v Speaker 2>I like to sleep in and then go to bed

0:31:15.520 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>at like nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite city to visit in the world.

0:31:21.520 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I just love Saigon, Vietnam so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite food or cuisine, Oh, I.

0:31:30.440 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Really like high food. I feel like it's probably my favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>I just have a really good time the other night.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you from where Bangkok?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah?

0:31:42.080 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:31:42.840 --> 0:31:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Coffee or tea?

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, neither.

0:31:45.840 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 4>I don't like the taste, really, do do? You don't

0:31:49.400 --> 0:31:50.640
<v Speaker 4>drink anything for caffeine?

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes I drink energy drinks, but I try to stray

0:31:55.400 --> 0:31:58.600
<v Speaker 2>away because they're just so bad. I know, and I'm

0:31:58.640 --> 0:32:00.640
<v Speaker 2>embarrassed too every time I opened.

0:32:00.440 --> 0:32:04.840
<v Speaker 1>Up, like, ah, well, look, go to cocktail on a

0:32:04.960 --> 0:32:05.320
<v Speaker 1>night out?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, French seventy five?

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<v Speaker 4>Someone else?

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Yea, I think on this season. Yeah, a dating deal

0:32:13.560 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>breaker of yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh if they hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite physical quality of on a man, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>their smile. Favorite subject or class you've taken.

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<v Speaker 2>In organic chemistry.

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<v Speaker 1>Favorite memory from the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, I have so many. I don't know.

0:32:39.360 --> 0:32:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I don't want to give me one.

0:32:42.240 --> 0:32:44.600
<v Speaker 4>It could just be one of your favorites. It doesn't

0:32:44.640 --> 0:32:45.720
<v Speaker 4>have to be the favorite.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the last question. So this is what I.

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<v Speaker 2>Was cracking on the Montreal date, but I really liked

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<v Speaker 2>when we were all dancing around. I feel like that

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<v Speaker 2>was just so fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, nice, Well that does it for today, Caitlin, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming on Happy Hour, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you guys for having me, and thank you to all

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners. We really appreciate it.

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