1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe, 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: and we are here with Caitlin. Caitlin the radio chemist 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: from Joey season. Because that's such an interesting, cool job, 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: and I think you may be the first radio chemist 5 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: ever on the Bachelor. 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 2: Maybe it is a pretty rare profession, so I wouldn't 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: be surprised. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, what can you explain? For for dummies? How do you? Yeah, 9 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: how how would you explain what you do? So? 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 2: I can't go into too much detail, but breadio chemistry 11 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: as profession is when you separate out octimize or radio 12 00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: newclides from a given substance and determined how much is 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 2: in there. I told you that. 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: I told you that. Go ahead, you guess. 15 00:00:54,560 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I knew that, sure, Joe, Okay. 16 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: And yeah, I don't know if I can say much more, 17 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 2: but that's pretty much like the gift of it, Yes, 18 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: just just just the gist of it. 19 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 4: So how did you end up in this career then? 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 3: Because I've imagined you didn't grow up being like I 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 3: just want to be a radio chemist. 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 2: No, So I've always been really good at like stam math, chemistry, 23 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: all those things, and so going into college like obviously 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: you want to do something you're good at. It's just 25 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: like I do a human nature. So I decided to 26 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 2: study chemistry and then really my focus in undergrad was 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: inorganic chemistry, like I did a lot of work with 28 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 2: like Lanthani complex structures and just like material sciences. And 29 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: so I graduated in May of twenty twenty, which was 30 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: you know, like when COVID hit all of the research 31 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: facilities that I applied to, they had withdrawn applications because 32 00:01:55,680 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 2: they just didn't have the funds. And so I just 33 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 2: took like a quick little break. And basically my old 34 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: lab mate in one of my classes had been like, hey, 35 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 2: what if you joined my lab? And I was like, huh, 36 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 2: I like looked it up. I'm like, oh man, this 37 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 2: is prestigious. I should really look into this. And so honestly, 38 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 2: it kind of just like fell into my lap in 39 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 2: a way. And now I find like a lot of 40 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 2: fun in radio chemistry, like I find a lot of interest. 41 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 2: But it was never my intent to go into radio chemistry. 42 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: Gotcha, where are you from? 43 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 2: So I grew up in Texas, but I went to 44 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 2: college in Austin, Okay. 45 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: What's school? 46 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 2: The University of Texas. 47 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 4: And then do you think, because you're saying, is that. 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: The only that might be the only college there? 49 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 2: Like, no, there's there's a bunch that was. 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: Sorry Joe into the College of Grocery Stores and the 51 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:58,839 Speaker 3: water tracks. So different career history. But so you said 52 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 3: you kind of fell into radio chemis astray. That wasn't 53 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 3: always the intention or the goal. Do you think you'll 54 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,799 Speaker 3: stay in that career path or do you have other 55 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: avenues that you want to explore. 56 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I'm currently applying to master's programs for medical 57 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 2: physics and medical dysymmetry. I've been doing interviews so hopefully 58 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 2: they go well. So I'm looking into staying in radiation. 59 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: But just like in a different avenue, I would. 60 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,840 Speaker 1: Say, and where are you currently? Where do you live now? 61 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: Are you still in Texas? 62 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: No, so, I live in Santa Fe, New Mexico. I 63 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: moved here for my job. 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: Actually, okay, oh cool, cool, I've been. I've been. I've 65 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: been the Santa Fe once. 66 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: Yeah really yeah. 67 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a cool little city. 68 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 2: Right, It's amazing. It has so much culture and one 69 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 2: thing I love about Santa Fe is you can make 70 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: friends anywhere. Like I moved there and only knowing one person, 71 00:03:50,720 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 2: I mean friends in like a coffee shop at a bar, 72 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 2: and I still talk to them to this day. So 73 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 2: it's just like one of those like neat little cities 74 00:03:57,440 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: where everyone's just so sociable. 75 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: I love it crazy. 76 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: I feel like that's so rare, Like I feel like 77 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: that's the opposite of what most people say when they 78 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: move to a new city, is like, oh it's so 79 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 3: hard to like meet new people. 80 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I never really felt that. I just like, I mean, 81 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 2: during COVID it was hard, so I waited until like 82 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: restrictions lifted, but I ended up meeting like a great 83 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 2: friends there. 84 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:21,600 Speaker 3: Do you think it's a it's more that you are 85 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: like an extroverted social person, or do you think there's 86 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,480 Speaker 3: just like a strong sense of community there. 87 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 2: I think there's a strong sense of community there. I'm 88 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: definitely not extraverted. I would say maybe more so in 89 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: the past now, But I've never been really like the 90 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: one to be like. I never liked a lot of 91 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 2: attention on myself or anything like that. So I feel 92 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,600 Speaker 2: like it's just when you're in such a small community 93 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: scan I face only like eighty thousand people, and most 94 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: of them are like retired folk. So when you see 95 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: someone under like thirty five, you're like, oh my god. 96 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,119 Speaker 4: How are you? 97 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 2: You know, it's like I know everyone within at least 98 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: like one degree separation that's under thirty five in Santa Fe. 99 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,039 Speaker 4: I was in Hilton Head. 100 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: I was living there for like three four months with 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 3: a friend of mine after university, and we were there 102 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: from September to December, which is not the summer months. 103 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 3: So like everyone that's young when was our age that 104 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: was back away going to school, and I remember we 105 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: were like, we're the youngest people on this island, Like 106 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 3: we need to find like hunt down some people that 107 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 3: are our age. 108 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: Make sure you ask Alan about New Mexico. Just shut 109 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: your notes, Okay, So to find out whatever that. What 110 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: was dating life like for you before before going on 111 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: the Bachelor? 112 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? So not good. Dating in Santa Fe was pretty 113 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 2: hard for me. I would say I just felt like 114 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: there weren't like again, the population of people is just 115 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: so small, and then the single people are even smaller, 116 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: and like, I don't know, it was just so difficult 117 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 2: to find anyone that I could date. And then out 118 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 2: of those people, it wasn't like anything ever truly clicked, 119 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: Like I never felt butterflies or anything, or like I 120 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 2: never could get past like the fourth date, Like it 121 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 2: just couldn't happen for. 122 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: Me, you trust? 123 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 3: Do you think though, Like I feel like if there's 124 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: only so many people under thirty five, like after a while, 125 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 3: you must have been like I've dated everyone in this freaking city. 126 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: Oh for sure. And also you also have to like 127 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 2: get rid of, like subtract all the people that your 128 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: friends have gone out with too, so it's like it 129 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 2: gets even smaller and smaller. And yeah, there's come a 130 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: point where I just like quit dating, like maybe like 131 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 2: a couple months before the show, I was like, or 132 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 2: a couple of months before I applied to be on 133 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 2: the show. Rather, I was like, m m, this. 134 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 4: Is it for me? 135 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 2: I guess No. 136 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 3: I have friends that are like single and on that 137 00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: dating grind and they're like it starts off fun, and 138 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 3: after a while you just get dating fatigue and you're like, 139 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,840 Speaker 3: I'm deleting all the apps for a few months and 140 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:06,599 Speaker 3: taking a break, like I cannot go on another first date. 141 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 2: It gets exhausting. 142 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: Were you buying into your family curse of like everyone's 143 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: single and maybe it's just not for me? 144 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 2: Well, I feel like our curse is more of a 145 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 2: nice thing to blame our problems on. It's not like 146 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 2: we necessarily like believe it. But and also I feel 147 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 2: like my my mom and my aunts they're just so 148 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: independent that they just like or they've felt love and 149 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 2: they just like haven't felt that again, you know what 150 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: I mean. So it's more like not giving into something 151 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 2: that you know you're not worth like not worthy of 152 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 2: that's not the right word, but you know what I mean. 153 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 2: It's like you don't want to go into something when 154 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 2: you know it's not the one for you. 155 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: You don't want to send. 156 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 2: You don't want to settle. I don't want to settle. 157 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 2: And it took me like a while to realize that. 158 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 2: Like you know, in earlier years, I definitely fell into 159 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: relationships way too quickly. 160 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: So and obviously there was a part of you that 161 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: that was kidding when you were talking about it on 162 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 1: the show. But when you when your mom and your 163 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: aunts watched it back, what did they What did they say? 164 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well, I mean they were just they 165 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: thought it was so funny. They were like, I cannot 166 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: believe they aired this. I was like convinced that they 167 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 2: were going to add like editing on it with like 168 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: voodoo lights and little orbs or something. I was so 169 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 2: convinced we're going to do that. But yeah, I mean 170 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 2: they were prepared for the worst. I was like, guys, 171 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: like sorry, like I did mention you, but you know, 172 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 2: we talked about the curse all the time and they're 173 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,079 Speaker 2: such like lighthearted and fun people, so they didn't care 174 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: at all. 175 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 4: That's good. That's so fun. 176 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: So then dating life was not it. How did you 177 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 3: end up on the Bachelor? 178 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh. 179 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 2: So my best friend nominated me on the Bachelor, and 180 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: then I was like, whys can you believe it? Like 181 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 2: nomine me to be on the Bachelor, and then a 182 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: lot of my friends did it all of a sudden. 183 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 2: I'm like, gosh, shit, I should just like nominate myself. 184 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 2: And so it was just kind of like my friend 185 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 2: saw that, like I just gone on another day and 186 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 2: it wasn't working, and she was like, you need to 187 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 2: go where they have pre vetted someone and you know 188 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 2: that they're going to be a good person. 189 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: You always say that. 190 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 3: I do because as women, like if you meet a 191 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 3: guy at a bar where you don't have like a 192 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 3: mutual friend like with them or something like that. You're like, 193 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 3: you're not pre vetted, Like you could be totally crazy, 194 00:09:33,080 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 3: you could be a scumbag, and it's gonna take me 195 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 3: a decent amount of time, like at least for four 196 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 3: dates to figure that out for myself. Whereas when you 197 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: go on The Bachelor or like Bachelor in Paradise or 198 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 3: any of these shows, it's like, Okay, sure, like someone 199 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 3: could still kind of be a scumbag, I guess, but 200 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:48,200 Speaker 3: it's like they're pre vetted. 201 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 4: You know, they're not crazy. 202 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 3: You know they're like emotionally available, you know they're genuinely 203 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 3: looking for a relationship. Sorry to just take over, Caitlin, 204 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: but I always say like there's a for women. 205 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 4: I feel like it's a big thing, be like this 206 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 4: guy's pre vetted. 207 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 2: No exactly, and especially the part where they're looking for 208 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 2: a relationship. I feel like a lot of guys pretend 209 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: that they are and I'm like, oh, I really like you, 210 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 2: and they're like, well, I'm not ready for anything yet, 211 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 2: and I'm like, well. 212 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so let's know we're back in ch acause 213 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 1: I feel so Caitlyn Serena really needs to do this, 214 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: like in chronological order, these interviews. So when I jumped 215 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: ahead and asked about your your bob and your aunt, 216 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 1: I could just feel I could feel the anxiety in 217 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: the room. 218 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 4: Oh, just like a linear thinker. 219 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 1: So okay, so you get on, So you get on, 220 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: and what are your thoughts? Did you know Joey was 221 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: going to be the Bachelor? What were your thoughts when 222 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: you found out it was going to be him? 223 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 2: So I had no idea it was going to be 224 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 2: him until, you know, when they announced him on TV, 225 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: and I was like so psyched, Like me and my 226 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: friends were like doing dances all around the kitchen because 227 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 2: in all honesty, like obviously like I want to find 228 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 2: this my person, and I want to go on the 229 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 2: show for someone that's like vetted and I know they 230 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 2: have the same goals in mind. But at the same time, 231 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 2: I wasn't really willing to go on for someone that 232 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: I knew I couldn't be interested in or you know, 233 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: wasn't attracted to. And so when I saw it was Joey, 234 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 2: and he's just like the most amazing, nice, sweet person 235 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 2: I've ever met with, like golden retriever energy, which is 236 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: like definitely my type. I was just so psyched and 237 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 2: that's when I was like really locked in, and that's 238 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: when I told my work. I was like, hey, guys, 239 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 2: I'm like piece it out for a little bit. 240 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 4: That's awesome. 241 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 3: No, I feel like a lot of the women from 242 00:11:45,920 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 3: your season were super happy to find out it was 243 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 3: Joey for sure. Yeah, so you get on the show 244 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 3: it's Night one. Can you tell us about the dress 245 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 3: that you wore, because I feel like it was like 246 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: super memorable and fall but like definitely a unique silhouette 247 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: compared to what we usually see for like Night one gowns, 248 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: Like how did you find it? 249 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 4: Where's it from? How'd you pick it? 250 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: So I'm half Vietnamese, so that's like my culture and 251 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: I mostly grew up with my mom, who immigrated here 252 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: when she was seventeen or eighteen, and so I've always 253 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 2: warned what that dress is called an auii and it's 254 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: just like our traditional dress in Vietnam, and we normally 255 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: wear it for like formal occasions and in the past, 256 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 2: they like worked to school and like teachers wear it, 257 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,720 Speaker 2: so it's like very common in Vietnam. And you know, 258 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 2: this was like a formal occasion. To me, I was like, 259 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm going to meet someone tonight that could I could 260 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: potentially be engaged too. I want him to know my 261 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 2: culture and like see it on me, even if we 262 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 2: don't have like a conversation about it. It's just like, 263 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 2: are you willing to accept something that's like a little 264 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: different than just like, you know, the normal like promisque dresses, 265 00:12:56,640 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 2: which obviously I wear in the future as well. But yeah, 266 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 2: so it's called an ALII And the whole point is 267 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: to be completely modest, So you're covered all the head 268 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 2: to toe and we have like pants underneath, so there's 269 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 2: like a slit. The whole point is like femininity can 270 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: still be seen through modesty. 271 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,280 Speaker 4: I'm obsessed. That's amazing. It was beautiful. 272 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 3: It looked amazing on you, And I just think that's 273 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: such a great way to incorporate something special about you 274 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 3: and your culture because you just never know how much 275 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 3: time you're going to get with the lead and just 276 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: to be like, hey, this is me and I'm going 277 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 3: to like tell you about it, but I'm also going 278 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: to show you a part of who I am as well. 279 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: Is really spec what a cool story too, Like if 280 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: you ask me, like what I wore A Yeah, so 281 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: where'd you get I got out of this store. That's 282 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 1: about the extent. So okay, So how about the other 283 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,319 Speaker 1: women in the house? Any who are you friends with? 284 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: Who are you kind of like don't like this person? 285 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: So in my limo was kelsey A, and I just 286 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: like immediately became really good friends with her. She is 287 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 2: such a wonderful energy, and she wasn't nervous at all too, 288 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,719 Speaker 2: which is why I think I like gravitated towards her 289 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,800 Speaker 2: that first night, because I was like obscenely nervous, like 290 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,560 Speaker 2: I'd never been that nervous in my whole life. Like 291 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 2: I couldn't even like keep down a cookie and I 292 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: love cookies. Like that was like unheard of me. 293 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: What's your favorite cookie? Oh? 294 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 2: My god, peanut butter. 295 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: Peanut butter cookies, Matt, I love peanut butter cookies. We 296 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: don't have peanut butter cookies in the house because Serena 297 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:37,000 Speaker 1: is allergic to nuts. But I do, I do love 298 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 1: a peanut butter cookie. 299 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 4: I know, I know, I'm just a burden. I'n just diet. 300 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: Well. I mean, also, I haven't really been eating peanut 301 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: butter that much because supposedly there's like a ton of 302 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: mold in peanut Butter. 303 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 4: I know, have you seen this? 304 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, So you're welcome. Actually I'm saving 305 00:14:58,720 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: your life. 306 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: Well I'm sure once it gets heated, like it goes away. 307 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,080 Speaker 1: But I don't know you're the radio chemist. 308 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: I don't think there's a cross over there, joists. 309 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: Okay, so okay, So Kelsey Kelsey A. 310 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 4: And I think we've seen that. 311 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 3: Like in the last episode on the group day, we 312 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 3: see you guys like kind of confiding in each other 313 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: about the difficulty of that specific group day, and just 314 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 3: like I feel like clips if I always see you 315 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 3: guys like sitting together and stuff. 316 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we were definitely close. And then I got close 317 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 2: with Daisy. And I didn't know this the first night 318 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: about her cochlear implant, but I was just getting like 319 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 2: so overwhelmeding in like a room like so many people. 320 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 2: I kept like finding places that were quiet and like 321 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 2: lone pold Das was there, which like makes sense like 322 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: the day after when I found that out. But yeah, 323 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: I became close with her because we were just like 324 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: talking about like how overwhelming. I was like, can you 325 00:15:56,640 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: believe we're here? You know, that sort of conversation. And 326 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 2: then honestly, I didn't get to talk to everyone night 327 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 2: one just because I feel like I was so in 328 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 2: my own head that I didn't really feel like I 329 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: got bad vibes from any one night one. 330 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: How do you how about like now like mid season, 331 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: anyone give you bad vibes? 332 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 3: Well, let's be a little more specific with it, because 333 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 3: there's definitely we've seen a lot of drama in the house. 334 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 3: We haven't seen you involved in any of it, obviously, 335 00:16:22,040 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 3: but you were there. I'm sure you have your opinions 336 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 3: on it. The main it seems like there's like kind 337 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: of two sides and then like a middle ground. We've 338 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 3: got like Maria and then we've got Sidney, Lea and Jess. 339 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 3: Do you feel like you were close with any of 340 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: these girls? Where do you think you kind of like 341 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: fell in the mix of the drama? 342 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 2: Right, So, I would say it for the drama itself, 343 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: I was definitely more neutral. Like I have spoken with 344 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,320 Speaker 2: Maria and I've said this time and time again. She 345 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 2: does have like such a positive energy and she never 346 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: puts people down, but her conflict style is like way 347 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,199 Speaker 2: more aggressive than I think a lot of the other 348 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 2: girls are. And then I'm really close with Lea like 349 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: we were roommates in the hotels in Malta, and I 350 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: love Jess. We were like our little like bees together, 351 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: so we were always like close, but neither of them 352 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 2: held it against me that you know, I was friends 353 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 2: with the other. Like neither one encouraged to like need 354 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: a talk shit or anything like that. I feel like 355 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 2: both the girls, like have both sets of girls to 356 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 2: have such positive light around them that it's like disappointing 357 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,239 Speaker 2: that it went this way. But I can't understand it. 358 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 2: Like people have different conflict styles, So. 359 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,120 Speaker 4: What do you think it was? 360 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:47,120 Speaker 3: Because I totally agree, like it does seem like there's 361 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 3: conflict and like, yeah, different ways, even like with Sydney 362 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 3: and Maria, Like they definitely are different in the way 363 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 3: like they communicate and their conflict styles. What do you 364 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: think it was that was sparking this conflict because it 365 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 3: does be like there's like on a personal level tension 366 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 3: between these girls. 367 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I don't even know because I remember I 368 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,200 Speaker 2: just come in from talking with Joey that night and 369 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:14,479 Speaker 2: I walked in and I was like, something's amiss, Like 370 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 2: I missed something. I don't know what's going on, but yeah, 371 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 2: I think it's maybe more just like insisting that, like 372 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 2: Marie was insisting, like who asked? Who told you this? 373 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 2: Like who told you this? And then Sydney was very 374 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: insistent as well, like well this isn't cool like whatever. 375 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,959 Speaker 2: So and so, I don't know, it was just a 376 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: lot for me. And I'm definitely like more of like 377 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 2: a hands off sort of person like and be like, oh, 378 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: we can disagree and that's okay with me. So I 379 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 2: don't know. It was hard for me to understand. 380 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,119 Speaker 1: Too, oh the same way, like we could disagree and 381 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 1: we get still be friends. Yeah, okay, So let's let's 382 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: fast forward to present time in the show, and you 383 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: are one of the women that are on this group date, 384 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: which is you guys play hockey. Something happens before the. 385 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: Dancing and stuff. 386 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there was a saying, oh yeah, we forgot 387 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 3: about the singing dancing moment. This gavenger Head group date 388 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 3: was a lot. What were your thoughts on it? 389 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: Again, because we do see you catch you pull Joey 390 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: to the side, and you are you struggled a little 391 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 1: with the date. 392 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, but you're definitely not the only one. 393 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 394 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, So I feel like going into this group date, 395 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 2: I was already putting like a lot of pressure, I 396 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,640 Speaker 2: guess in Montreal because I knew it was only one 397 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: more week and then hometowns. So I guess in my 398 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 2: head it was immediately like, if I don't get on 399 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 2: one on one this week, I don't think I'm gonna 400 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 2: make it, Like, to be honest, like, I don't think 401 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 2: neither of us will have enough time to make sure 402 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: that I'm ready for him to meet my family and 403 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: he's ready to meet my family. So I initially put 404 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on my going into Montreal, and 405 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: then Joey doubled down and staid, like, this is very important. 406 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 2: We had like a pretty somber tone, I feel like 407 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: to the start of it. And then obviously I found 408 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 2: out that I'm not getting a one on one. I'm 409 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,639 Speaker 2: on this group date. So yeah, I had like a 410 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: hard time with this group date, mostly because this felt 411 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,640 Speaker 2: like a date that you would kind of do just 412 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,119 Speaker 2: with one person, Like it didn't feel like, you know, 413 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: the other dates were so. 414 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 4: Like yeah in a group Yeah, it felt like this structure. 415 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it felt like the structure of this group date 416 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 3: was not cohesive to a group date, if that makes sense. 417 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 3: Like it felt really challenging for him to get around 418 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 3: to everyone, Like it feels like it's something you do 419 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 3: with a group of friends, or you would do it 420 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 3: with just one other person, like. 421 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 2: A sidewalk can only fit Joey plus one other girl, 422 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 2: and then anytime you were that girl, you're like love me, 423 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: Like I. 424 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 3: Just like I also feel like on the like a date, 425 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 3: I would have gotten discouraged and been like I'm not 426 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 3: fighting my way up to the front, Like I'm just 427 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 3: gonna hang in the back and be annoyed. 428 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: Probably that's definitely what I was like. And I'm also 429 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: definitely more of a passive person, Like I'm not someone 430 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: who's gonna like throw an elbow to get to talk 431 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,640 Speaker 2: to someone all friends. Yeah, I'm like, I'm not interested 432 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 2: in like throwing anyone under the bus, but also I 433 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 2: want someone else to like make a move and like 434 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 2: show that you're interested and in that group. Date was 435 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 2: hard because I don't I didn't felt like he did 436 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: that with really anyone. And I know it's probably because 437 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: like everyone was coming up to him and try to 438 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: take his time, but it would have been nice to 439 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 2: have like that validation throughout the date. 440 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, No, it was a hard date to watch, 441 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,679 Speaker 3: just knowing how probably hard it was to be on 442 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,160 Speaker 3: that date. Like, I really empathize with you guys and 443 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: Joey because it was just a difficult dynamic. Was there 444 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 3: anyone that you felt like was really like you explained that, 445 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 3: you feel like you're more passive, as like someone who 446 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: didn't want to be like pushing their way to the front. 447 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 3: Was there anyone on the date that you felt was 448 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 3: doing that, not even in like a negative way, but 449 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: that was maybe just more their style really going for it. 450 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like Jen is definitely like that sort 451 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 2: of person, and I commend her for it, Like I 452 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,640 Speaker 2: wish I was like that. She's definitely like a very 453 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 2: confident person and would always like go to Joey and 454 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 2: like shown little things and point out things. I'm like, 455 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: oh man, I wish I could do that. At point, 456 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 2: Tommy wasn't mad at me because I was so anxious. Yeah, 457 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: I feel like Jen really like shows her best self, 458 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 2: like on camera and in front of a lot of people, 459 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 2: and she's not afraid to show herself, which is really cool. 460 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 3: So then you have your conversation. We see you and 461 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 3: kelsey A have a little chat and just kind of 462 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: you guys are talking about how you're both struggling on 463 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: the date, and then we see you talk to Joey 464 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 3: that night and you just kind of open up about 465 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 3: like how it was hard. 466 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 4: How did that conversation go? 467 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 2: You know, I guess it went okay. I would say, 468 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 2: I I think we have like an honest conversation, which 469 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,120 Speaker 2: is always good. It did leave me with like kind 470 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 2: of a sinking feeling, though, just because I felt like 471 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 2: we both kind of agreed that, you know, it just 472 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 2: like it wasn't going at the pace that we needed 473 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 2: to go. Like, we never had a one on one 474 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 2: and I never really pushed myself so hard or like 475 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 2: got out of my head enough during these group dates 476 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 2: to really like make myself seen. So that was like 477 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 2: a really difficult conversation to have, I feel like, and 478 00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 2: just to be like open about because I'm not used 479 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: to like having to fight for a guy. And then 480 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 2: also just to be vulnerable in front of someone I 481 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: haven't known that long, in in front of cameras too, 482 00:23:58,320 --> 00:23:59,160 Speaker 2: that's so scary. 483 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is scary. 484 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: So you left that kind of with the sinking feeling. 485 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 3: Was there a part of you that was wondering if 486 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: you might be going home that week. 487 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 2: I felt almost positive I was going home that week, sadly, 488 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 2: just because I hadn't had that one open time, and 489 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:19,120 Speaker 2: then my time with Joey was really spent talking about 490 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 2: how I wish I had time versus like, you know, 491 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 2: furthering your relationship. So yeah, I didn't feel too great 492 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 2: about it. 493 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: I feel like, though, and tell me, tell me if 494 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 3: you disagree, but do you feel like it was kind 495 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 3: of like, how do I want to phrase this? Like, 496 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 3: were you in any way a little bit grateful that 497 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 3: he was kind of honest with you in that conversation 498 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 3: about where your relationship was at versus just being like 499 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 3: dumping a bunch of reassurance on you in that moment 500 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: to leave the conversation feeling a lot better at the time, 501 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: but then not getting rows with the row ceremony. 502 00:24:57,080 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 2: I really appreciated his honesty, and I feel like me 503 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: not getting a rose later or like leaving later in 504 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 2: the week would have been so much tougher on me. 505 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: If I felt like he had said, like, oh, we're 506 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 2: like totally there, like don't worry about it, like I'm 507 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: so confident about you, Like that would have made me 508 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 2: feel sorry, like a different way about it. So I'm 509 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 2: really glad that he was honest with me, as I 510 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 2: was honest with him too. 511 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 3: Was there any girls that you were surprised when they 512 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 3: went home or maybe are surprised that they were still there, 513 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,640 Speaker 3: like I didn't realize like they had such a strong connection. 514 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 2: No. I feel like the six girls that were left 515 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: after Leye and I left, I felt like they had 516 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 2: a strong connection. Like I was, like I was having 517 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 2: a hard time even in my head, like who would 518 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: even be going to hometowns? Like I had no idea 519 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 2: who he was going to cut. But I was surprised 520 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: that Lexi left because I thought they had a strong connection. 521 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,480 Speaker 2: But you know, we like talked about like her timeline 522 00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 2: and stuff like that, so it made sense. 523 00:25:59,359 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. 524 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well I just want to ask, you know, if 525 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 3: you feel comfortable sharing if not, no problem, because I 526 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 3: know it's a bit of a personal question for Lexi. 527 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: But she we never got to see what her timeline 528 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 3: that she was kind of looking for. Did she ever 529 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 3: speak with you guys about that. I know that Joey 530 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: articulated his is she just kind of looking for a 531 00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,960 Speaker 3: more like rapid pace? Because I know she just said 532 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 3: like they don't align was kind of the messaging we 533 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 3: got as viewers. 534 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I know Joey mentioned that he wants like 535 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 2: a longer engagement and like a longer marriage before having kids, 536 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 2: and I just don't think that Lexi has that in mind. 537 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 2: I think she knows exactly what she wants and I 538 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:43,479 Speaker 2: applot her for it. So yeah, I think she just 539 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 2: wants like a shorter timeframe to have her kids sooner, 540 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: just because of her health issues and stuff like that. 541 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,879 Speaker 4: So yeah, really, which absolutely makes sense. 542 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, makes sense to get into it. Let's play a game. Game. 543 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: A question though, is if we we're gonna have game. 544 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: It's a lot of fun. If if you were to 545 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: get if they did a Bachelor in Paradise and they 546 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: asked you to go, would you hell? 547 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, look, you guys came out of that. 548 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 2: I would love to find my person, even if it's 549 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 2: through something unconventional like paradise. Yeah, I think it would 550 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 2: be really fun. I don't know if I'd look forward 551 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 2: to like sweating that much, but. 552 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 3: It like it like varies every season, Like I feel 553 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 3: like every year it's different. Our season was crazy hot, 554 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: we had tear and like we had storms and stuff, 555 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 3: but then we didn't have any bugs because it was 556 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,000 Speaker 3: so hot, whereas then the following two years I heard 557 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 3: that it wasn't that like last year. I think it 558 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: like wasn't that hot at all, but it was crazy buggy. 559 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 3: So it's like pick your poison, I know. 560 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: Oh, also, you have to tell all coming up anything 561 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 1: you're excited about. 562 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 2: For that, I don't even know if I'm excited. I'm 563 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: just like nervous because I know, like with everything airing, 564 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: like emotions have been arising again and bubbling up. So 565 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 2: I'm just like nervous to see the conflict again because 566 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: like being there in person, it's just so overwhelming. It's 567 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:25,679 Speaker 2: just like really really loud arg and it can just 568 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 2: get to be a lot. I really am excited though, 569 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 2: for both girls to like get to share more of 570 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,479 Speaker 2: their story and like why they felt that way, because 571 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,560 Speaker 2: I feel like the show obviously like we have so 572 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 2: much to show or sorry, we have so much that 573 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: we have filmed, but not a lot can be shown, 574 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 2: and so I feel like it's a good time for 575 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 2: the girls to have like that full hour to like 576 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: really talk about it and get to the bottom of 577 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 2: things and hopefully everyone can be friends after this. 578 00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: So well, hopefully they don't take up the whole hour 579 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 1: because I don't know. 580 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 3: I'm sure to know what happens. I'm sure they're going 581 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: to take up a good portion of it. But yeah, 582 00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: I think the towel is always a great time to 583 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 3: get more insight into like more details about the drama, 584 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 3: maybe things that weren't shown, and just more context for 585 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: the viewers and sometimes an opportunity for reconciliation. If Sydney 586 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 3: Mario Walkerway's friends, I'll literally be floored. 587 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 4: But you never know, anything could happen. 588 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 2: I'd be so shocked, but I do hope it happened, 589 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:32,200 Speaker 2: or at least all the other girls in a want too. 590 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, rapid fire, rapid fire, it comes. Yeah, I'll 591 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: do it, Okay, first thing that comes to your head. 592 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 4: Just they're all just like easy, fun questions about you, 593 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 4: No need to stress. 594 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: Sneakers or heels for a night out. 595 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 2: Sneakers, I'm five to ten, dude. 596 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 4: Oh yeah you're tall? Wait were you taller than Joey? 597 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: No? Actually, when I wore my heels and he wore his, 598 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,440 Speaker 2: like I don't know, like loafers like this equated to 599 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 2: like the he was fairly taller. 600 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, Kelsey a seems tall too, right, mm hmm, she's. 601 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 2: Just in shorter than me. I also think that's why 602 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 2: we got a long because we got to share some 603 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 2: many clothes and shoes. 604 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like you Kelsey and Lexie were always 605 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 3: sharing clothes always yeah. 606 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 1: Always dream vacation destination. 607 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Well, I'm going to Patigoingia next week, 608 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 2: and that's like always gonna dream of mind. Yeah. I'm 609 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,960 Speaker 2: a big like hiker and climber, so I'm excited. 610 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: That's awesome. An artist you'd love to see perform. 611 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,360 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Tate McRae, no way. 612 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 3: I think she's like the city I grew up in. 613 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: Really yeah, I think she's how old is she? She's 614 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: like a few years younger than. 615 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: He is young, I think. 616 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, but one of the guys I used to dance 617 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 3: like against a competition is like her backup dancer, I think. 618 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, yeah, random connection. 619 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: Favorite favorite date this season, Oh my gosh, the tennis 620 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: date was so fun, so funny. 621 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 4: I loved that date. 622 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: Night owl or early bird. 623 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 2: My god, neither. I'm like an old lady. I like 624 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: I like to sleep in and then go to bed 625 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: at like nine. 626 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: Favorite city to visit in the world. 627 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I just love Saigon, Vietnam so much. 628 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,360 Speaker 1: Favorite food or cuisine, Oh, I. 629 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 2: Really like high food. I feel like it's probably my favorite. 630 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 1: I just have a really good time the other night. 631 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: Did you from where Bangkok? 632 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:40,719 Speaker 2: Oh? 633 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? 634 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: Yeah? 635 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:43,720 Speaker 1: Coffee or tea? 636 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, neither. 637 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 4: I don't like the taste, really, do do? You don't 638 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 4: drink anything for caffeine? 639 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 2: Sometimes I drink energy drinks, but I try to stray 640 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: away because they're just so bad. I know, and I'm 641 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: embarrassed too every time I opened. 642 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: Up, like, ah, well, look, go to cocktail on a 643 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: night out? 644 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 2: Oh, French seventy five? 645 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 4: Someone else? 646 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: Yea, I think on this season. Yeah, a dating deal 647 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: breaker of yours. 648 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 2: Oh if they hunt. 649 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: Favorite physical quality of on a man, I feel like 650 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 1: their smile. Favorite subject or class you've taken. 651 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: In organic chemistry. 652 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: Favorite memory from the show. 653 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I have so many. I don't know. 654 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: Okay, I don't want to give me one. 655 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,600 Speaker 4: It could just be one of your favorites. It doesn't 656 00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 4: have to be the favorite. 657 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: This is the last question. So this is what I. 658 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 2: Was cracking on the Montreal date, but I really liked 659 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,000 Speaker 2: when we were all dancing around. I feel like that 660 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: was just so fun. 661 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: Okay, nice, Well that does it for today, Caitlin, Thank you, 662 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on Happy Hour, Thank 663 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: you guys for having me, and thank you to all 664 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: our listeners. We really appreciate it. 665 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 4: And make sure to subscribe to About Your Happy Hour 666 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: because we have new episodes every single week and more 667 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:14,400 Speaker 4: slissive interviews to come. 668 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: Thanks again Bye,