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Speaker 5: Did you guys see that game? The Illinois State Montana

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Speaker 5: State final?

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Speaker 6: That final like sequence was drunk? It was wild?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, saw it? Yes, that's wow? Man?

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Speaker 6: Did you not watch it?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 6: Oh dude?

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Speaker 8: All right?

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Speaker 7: Was really it was really just about bad. But go ahead, gut.

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Speaker 6: Okay, let me give you the forty five second recap talk.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, it was Illinois State's first shot at a

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Speaker 1: national championship, all right. Now, it was Montana State's second shot,

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Speaker 1: but I think first since like the nineteen eighties. So

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Speaker 1: with fifty seven seconds left, Illinois State's lining up for

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Speaker 1: a field goal to go ahead. It gets blocked, all right,

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Speaker 1: Montana State gets it back. They then pushed down the field.

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Speaker 1: It's twenty twenty eight at this point, and it's I

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Speaker 1: want to say third and I don't know ten maybe

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Speaker 1: something like that, and the quarterback's not ready for the center,

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Speaker 1: you know, fires a shotgun snap it goes back like

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Speaker 1: twenty five yards. So now it's fourth down from Montana State.

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Speaker 1: They have to punt back. Illinois State end up just

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Speaker 1: running the clock out, even though they had about you know,

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Speaker 1: twelve seconds to work with they could have taken in

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Speaker 1: like another play.

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Speaker 6: So they go into ot.

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Speaker 1: Illinois State ends up like kind of working the way

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Speaker 1: quickly into the end zone, pat blocked, so now they're

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Speaker 1: only up six. Montana State gets the football three kind

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Speaker 1: of crappy plays.

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Speaker 6: It's now fourth and ten. Dude drops a dime to

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Speaker 6: go tied up thirty four.

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Speaker 1: To thirty four, and then Montana State kicks a pat

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Speaker 1: to win a national championship. The FCF's level, it was awesome,

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Speaker 1: but it was also like some bad football at certain

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Speaker 1: points too, But it was fun to watch.

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Speaker 7: God it's a heartbreaker. Wow, all right, what you got?

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Speaker 6: It's just wild that like Illinois State had.

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Speaker 1: Multiple chances of winning their first ever nationale and I

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Speaker 1: feel bad for a little quarterback.

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Speaker 6: I guess it was like last name, I don't want

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Speaker 6: to mess it up, but he was.

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Speaker 1: He was going wild on the sidelines, like he was

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Speaker 1: very upset. Written Well, I was gonna say like that

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Speaker 1: feel like you know, I was gonna say written house

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Speaker 1: wasn't one hundred said positive?

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Speaker 6: That name might you know trigger some people, so you know, yeah.

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Speaker 5: I was about to say who who cares? But outside

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Speaker 5: of I guess sports geeks, like who came sports?

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Speaker 7: We'll think about it.

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Speaker 1: I love football, I'm not and this is like the

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Speaker 1: last little dose we get, right. We got NFL coming up,

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Speaker 1: but then that's gonna be gone and I'll be watching

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Speaker 1: college tape.

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Speaker 4: But think about think about how many of those the

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Speaker 4: us flan Think about how many of those guys last

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Speaker 4: night that's it.

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Speaker 7: For their football career, you know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and like whatever side you're on, you got to

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Speaker 5: Like that's wrong with that, that's think about, Like they

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Speaker 5: could have been historic, Like Illinois State's run was not

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're like the four seed, but still like

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's brutal.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's interesting because that sounded interesting listening to it,

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Speaker 5: because to me, that was more interesting than.

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Speaker 7: Watching the game.

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Speaker 5: And to that point, pretty much any other bowl game

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Speaker 5: outside of the Bowl Playoff Series, the playoff series that's

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 5: Just don't find any unless unless it's Penn State playing

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Speaker 5: in it. Like I watched the pin Stripe Ball Big Time,

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Speaker 5: which if Penn State wasn't playing, I wouldn't have watched that.

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Speaker 3: Who threw out the first pitch for that game?

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Speaker 5: Don't know, didn't know they did a first pitch for

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Speaker 7: I don't either. I know they gave, I know they gave.

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Speaker 6: I don't think they do.

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Speaker 7: I think he's being funny. Yeah, I mean, that's fine.

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Speaker 5: I mean, but I'm just saying it's literally that not

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Speaker 5: interesting to me that I wouldn't even know. And if

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Speaker 5: they did throw up.

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Speaker 4: By the way, it was was the Duke's Mail Bowl

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Speaker 4: on Sunday?

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Speaker 7: Did they Why why game?

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Speaker 5: Well, because you might get somebody flipping through channels, like, oh,

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Speaker 5: there's a different audiences, different audience, let's take a chance,

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Speaker 5: different height. You might be flipping through the channels and

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Speaker 5: see it now because now you see now you know

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Speaker 5: what happens. Now you get an opportunity because you got

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Speaker 5: these multiple screen setups and you're looking at it and

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Speaker 5: they show the logos of the game. So it's not

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Speaker 5: even like old school. And this is more interesting to

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Speaker 5: me actually than even the games themselves, is that now

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Speaker 5: the way you can go on to the guide and

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Speaker 5: see what's out there and what's on there.

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Speaker 7: I can watch.

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Speaker 5: A college game if it's on the same day as

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Speaker 5: a pro game because I have multiple views on my

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Speaker 5: television as someone who's old and not really into technology

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Speaker 7: I do have tcls.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I do have TCL but I think it's YouTube

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Speaker 5: but the one I use the YouTube and I find

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Speaker 5: that to be phenomenal. So, you know, you see the

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Speaker 5: logo of the game, the two teams playing, you might

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Speaker 5: watch it. I mean, I gen'er really don't, but you might.

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Speaker 5: I'm just saying there's a chance there.

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Speaker 7: You go.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad you was able to give us a

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Speaker 5: recap of that game, because I was.

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Speaker 1: It was wild, dude, and I was sitting there like

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Speaker 1: I just I was like, how's this happening? Like both teams,

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Speaker 1: the shots win it both. I'm just more crazy stuff

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Speaker 1: that doesn't happen very often. I would have game saying

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Speaker 1: that to myself, why am I watching? By the way,

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Speaker 1: correction is happening? Duke's mailbow was on Friday.

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Speaker 7: That was on Friday. It was on Friday.

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Speaker 1: I'll just say I don't think it was on Sunday,

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Speaker 5: But there were NFL games on Saturday, Saturday and Sunday. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: so they changed days. They jumped on on college football.

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Speaker 4: I do like the Thursday Friday semi final move, Like

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Speaker 4: I'm glad they didn't go try and you know, fit

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Speaker 4: both in one day or anything like that. Like, I

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Speaker 4: like the fact that we're going to stagger it and

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Speaker 4: you're going to get back to back nights of actual

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a separate conversation than what I think

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Speaker 1: we wanted to talk about, but there does, or there

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Speaker 1: should be a conversation.

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Speaker 6: About like what are we doing with these games?

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Speaker 1: I mean, the National Championship's not played until was January nineteenth,

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Speaker 1: a Monday. I mean it extends out so far. We

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Speaker 1: talked about the issue of the transfer portal and four

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Speaker 1: teams that are still in it have to juggle both,

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Speaker 1: which is completely unfair. I mean, imagine the AFCNFC championship game.

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Speaker 1: We're like, yep, French, she starts for the NFL.

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Speaker 6: Now, it's like, what.

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Speaker 1: So that these teams get penalized for you know, trying

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Speaker 1: to play off to win their confence championship and go

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Speaker 1: to Super Bowl.

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Speaker 6: That's how it works.

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Speaker 7: When does the portal close?

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Speaker 1: I believe it's like the middle of January. It's only

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Speaker 6: It's not as much. I don't think it's as long,

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Speaker 6: or maybe it's till the end of the month. Off

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Speaker 5: I mean, because there's like now conversations if we were

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Speaker 5: supposed to talk about something different, but do it. I mean,

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Speaker 5: they're they're the whole conversation of people getting upset with

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Speaker 5: players who are now opting out of playing in the playoffs,

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Speaker 5: right right, opting out of playing in the college football

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Speaker 7: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: But but for what it's worth, if you lose your opportunity,

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Speaker 5: to win, who's right and who's wrong?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 5: Is the kid wrong for opting out of playing so

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Speaker 5: that they can go into the portal? Like I saw

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Speaker 5: a story, That's what I'm saying. I saw a story

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Speaker 5: and I was like, well, when does the portal close?

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Speaker 5: I didn't look to see what they exactly, But even

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Speaker 5: a different school. Like, you're not getting a scholarship offer

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Speaker 5: go into the portal, like, So, the further out you

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Speaker 5: get from going into the port and seeing where you

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Speaker 5: can go, there's more and more people committing to the

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Speaker 5: new schools that they hit the portal for, less and

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Speaker 5: less scholarships to be had. So the longer you wait,

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Speaker 5: if you're in the playoffs, the longer you wait, the

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Speaker 5: less opportunities you're going to have to get a scholarship

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Speaker 5: somewhere else. And then there's the whole conversation. Y'all saw

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Speaker 5: what Georgia just did. Is that is that true? Q?

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Speaker 5: That they did a contract with a kid. The kid

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Speaker 5: balance of what they oweing for what Yeah, what he's owed.

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Speaker 5: And it's like like, so, now that's a conversation like

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Speaker 5: they had. They didn't pay him, they didn't pay him

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Speaker 5: the money, but he has to pay them back.

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Speaker 7: Welcome to the real world.

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Speaker 5: They have to pay Yeah, I made them back the

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Speaker 6: So it's a tough spot to be in.

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Speaker 1: But I think you're also seeing a lot of moving

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Speaker 5: I started thinking to myself, all right, let me let

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Speaker 7: But I almost feel like there should.

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Speaker 5: Be an exception made for which I don't know how

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Speaker 5: like you opt out. That's what I thought about with

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Speaker 5: And that's something that agents have to be aware of now.

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Speaker 1: to then do that for other players. And there's all

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Speaker 1: sorts of stipulations put in place for those agents at

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Speaker 1: the NFL level to be certified right through the CBA

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Speaker 1: or excuse me, through the Union. You don't have that

445
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Speaker 1: in college football. So again, you know, to what LeVar

446
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Speaker 1: is saying, you've got sometimes aunts, uncles, You've got other

447
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Speaker 1: people who aren't using an attorney or they're using a

448
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Speaker 1: very inexperienced agent who is not reading through all these clauses. Right,

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Speaker 1: It's not like fine sprint that's really small at the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the page. It's clauses that they're not reading

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Speaker 1: and understanding what the legal interpretation is or what they're

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Speaker 1: putting their clients at risks to.

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Speaker 6: So again, it's a bunch of legal jargon. We can

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Speaker 6: get into it.

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Speaker 1: The greater discussion point is like this case will set

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Speaker 1: a precedent for how players move moving forward, how schools

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Speaker 1: will work moving forward, because you know you can say, well, Hey,

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Speaker 1: you know other families, and you know they're gonna be

459
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Speaker 1: very concerned about going to Georgia moving forward. The problem

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Speaker 1: is if this is, if this is successful for Georgia,

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Speaker 1: every other school and every other collect is gonna start

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Speaker 1: putting in It's gonna be standard. It's gonna be standard

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Speaker 1: language within their contracts, because they don't want to waste

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Speaker 1: money either on a guy who's basically gonna sign up

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Speaker 1: to a contract that want to go somewhere else. Like

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Speaker 1: they're trying to set in rules and frameworks to penalize

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Speaker 1: players for just signing contracts and then jumping out which

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Speaker 1: they should checking out.

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Speaker 5: They should, They definitely should. But I was under the

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Speaker 5: impression that it was not paid out, like the article

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Speaker 5: that I saw, and it wasn't even an article, it

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Speaker 5: was a social post. I saw a post, so like

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Speaker 5: just you know, yeah, I didn't dig deep into it.

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Speaker 6: It looks like.

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Speaker 1: From what this is saying, one hundred and ten thousand

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Speaker 1: of it has been paid out of the five hundred thousand,

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Speaker 1: and that's why they're kind of coming back for the

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Speaker 1: rest of it which they had put in, you know,

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Speaker 1: And again I don't we don't know the specifics because

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't I don't know the kid or

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Speaker 1: the family and all that, so.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to make any like allegations. I'm just

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Speaker 6: telling you.

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Speaker 7: What I just I just know this. If you're on

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Speaker 7: the hook and I'm sorry jump point.

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Speaker 5: Nor if you're on the hook for the total amount

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Speaker 5: and you did not receive the total amount, that's strange

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Speaker 5: to me that unless it's in the contract that says

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Speaker 5: you are here for this amount of time and this

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Speaker 5: is basically the buyout of you getting out of your contract.

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Speaker 4: Don't you think, though, big picture, maybe this is a

492
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Speaker 4: good thing, because maybe this will let people know, hey,

493
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Speaker 4: like you got to do your due diligence. Otherwise there's

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Speaker 4: ramifications for you wanting to run wild. Absolutely like That's

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Speaker 4: why I look at it and go, this could actually

496
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Speaker 4: turn out to be a good thing for the entire situation,

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Speaker 4: the portal, all this. And it sucks that this kid's

498
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Speaker 4: being made the example or that he's the example because

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Speaker 4: he could have gotten some bad info or bad advice

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Speaker 4: from one of these you know, you know, fake agents

501
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Speaker 4: who are out there trying to represent these guys that

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Speaker 4: you guys have talked about. I just look at it

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Speaker 4: and I go this at least sets Georgia up to

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Speaker 4: be Hey, we may look like the bad guy right now,

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Speaker 4: but big picture, there's probably a lot of schools and

506
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Speaker 4: a lot of people involved that are like, all right,

507
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Speaker 4: this is what could happen, and at least we have

508
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Speaker 4: some sort of a point we can get to to

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Speaker 4: where we say, hey, this is how this could go wrong,

510
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Speaker 4: and this is how this could go sideways for you

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Speaker 4: if you don't do your job on your end.

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Speaker 3: So I look at it.

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Speaker 7: I don't think it's a bad thing, and.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it's a bad thing, but I do

515
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Speaker 5: think that it could be damaging if what I'm saying

516
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Speaker 5: is accurate. If what I read was accurate, that could

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Speaker 5: be damaging. And then now that just has to become

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Speaker 5: a bigger conversation. If you're doing a contract and they're

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Speaker 5: asking you to pay back money, is that you've never

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Speaker 5: been paid?

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Speaker 7: That's a problem. I heard it. That's a problem.

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Speaker 4: I also heard part of the issue and the reason

523
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Speaker 4: why things fell apart between this player and Georgia is

524
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Speaker 4: because he drove the speed limit.

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Speaker 5: You always set up your sarcasm with that, What do

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Speaker 5: you mean your your setups are so like, let's go

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Speaker 5: to break. I saw a social photo break, which it's

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Speaker 5: a funny. It was a funny it was a funny

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Speaker 5: line though it was it was a one liner, and

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Speaker 5: it was a funny one liner. I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 5: because I mean, they do not drive the speed limit

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Speaker 5: apparently at Georgia.

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Speaker 4: going to tell you about a situation in the NFL

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Speaker 4: that does deserve a question or two to be asked.

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Speaker 4: SO Dealer's Choice. Here we can go portal party, all right,

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Speaker 4: or we can talk about the situation in South Beach,

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Speaker 4: all right. So Bradon t quinn, you are this that

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Speaker 4: probably Warren's more conversation. Okay, so you're thinking portal party here, No,

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Speaker 4: you're thinking to us, well, we're you know, look at

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Speaker 4: clock purposes, clock purposes. I'm just saying, do we have

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Speaker 4: enough time to get into this, uh, this whole conversation.

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Speaker 7: Do you want to say before the top of the

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Speaker 7: next hour.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's a the quarterback. We're making sure

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Speaker 5: the quarterback has you know, adequate time to make his

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Speaker 5: points about the quarterback situation in Miami.

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Speaker 6: I mean that's actually not what he's referring to.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Oh, I just was just doing what I was doing.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what what Jonas was doing. I was

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Speaker 5: being mindful of the fact I wanted to protect my quarterback.

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Speaker 7: It's my quarterback. I wanted to protect my quarterbacks time.

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Speaker 6: That's all. Well, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 1: I was Actually we actually had planned a portal party

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Speaker 1: segment to do kind of like a roundup. So that's

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Speaker 1: more he was alluding to and talking to me about that.

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Speaker 4: A So, so what are you thinking you want to

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Speaker 4: go a portal party here. I'm gonna screw that up.

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Speaker 4: I try and say that many times over portal portal

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Speaker 4: party sounds like you're saying, yeah, that sounds like, but

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Speaker 4: we can do it here.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't matter.

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Speaker 5: All right, we got the Oh, we got imaging and

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Speaker 5: everything you want, the thing you know?

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Speaker 7: Oh, I ain't ready ready.

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Speaker 4: Let's fire away the Lorena, the cittate Lorena production.

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Speaker 3: Oh, here we go, It's time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah over here, Grob Verona, cowboy round.

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Speaker 6: Let's start off with group Bay. That's quarterback Brettan Sores.

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Speaker 1: We we talked about it earlier, leaving Cincinnati, departing to go

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Speaker 1: to Texas Tech and uh reportedly for a huge payday.

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Speaker 1: They were reportedly saying five million dollars for this upcoming season.

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Speaker 7: Yeah that's me.

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Speaker 6: They look, this is an offensive scheme fit.

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Speaker 1: Will he be able to get Texas Tech past where

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Speaker 1: they got this year?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I would say Brendan sorosby Baron Morton kind of similar players, honestly,

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Speaker 1: and watching some of their tape and watching this year,

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Speaker 1: so we shall see next up on the list. And

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Speaker 1: this is a big one, and I love this move.

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Speaker 1: Former Iowa State quarterback rock O Beck. He's joining Matt

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Speaker 1: Campbell at Penn State. Oh yeah, this is a great git.

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Speaker 1: I love this kid.

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Speaker 6: I think it's tough.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gritty. He brings stability to the quarterback

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Speaker 1: position in year one, and I think he's always been

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Speaker 1: able to do more with less during his time at

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Speaker 1: Iowa State. Excuse me, So this is huge I think

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Speaker 1: for Matt Campbell's he tries to build out the culture

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Speaker 1: of what he's making there at Penn State. Next up

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Speaker 1: and this one, to me, he is the most interesting.

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Speaker 1: So former TCU quarterback Josh Hoover, he's already selected IU

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Speaker 1: and which, by the way, a couple of these could

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Speaker 1: be up in the air still until the ink is dry.

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Speaker 1: Hoover really good player, a very talented passer. If you

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Speaker 1: look at Kurt Signetti and what he's done the past

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Speaker 1: two years, curs Rooke the first year they get to

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Speaker 1: the playoff. Now this year with Fernanda Mendoza, he wins

661
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: the Heisman. They're playing the semi final. The dude knows

662
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Speaker 1: how to pick which quarterback is the right fit for

663
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Speaker 1: what he's looking for.

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Speaker 6: So this gives I you a huge boost.

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Speaker 1: An older upper classmen side player who's going to come

666
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: in right away start and at a lyft. And also

667
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: they got wide receiver Nick marsh from Michigan State, another

668
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Speaker 1: big body target to replace some of what they will

669
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Speaker 1: lose with a guy like Elijah Sarratt for example. And

670
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Speaker 1: then finally former notiname backup Kenny Minshe originally looked like

671
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: he was committing to Nebraska to replace Dylan Royola, and

672
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: now it looks like he's going to go to Kentucky.

673
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: So Kentucky gets a quarterback with a ton of upsides

674
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Speaker 1: on armtown ability. It should go nicely with Will Stein,

675
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,920
Speaker 1: their new head coach, the offensive coordinator from Oregon, should

676
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: go well with what they're going to ask him to

677
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 1: do to at the quarterback spot there in Lexington. So

678
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Speaker 1: that's your roundup transfer pool. There's a lot more to go.

679
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Speaker 4: But so then, what was the report that Sam Levitt

680
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Speaker 4: was going to Kentucky was that.

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Speaker 1: That that apparently most likely was about money if you

682
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Speaker 1: had for being honest, Like, here's what I think Sam

683
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Speaker 1: Levit's doing. I think Sam Levitt is waiting to see

684
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Speaker 1: how things play out through the rest of the college

685
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: football playoff. Like Miami has deep pockets. Beec's gonna you know,

686
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Speaker 1: move on after this year. You know, that would be

687
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Speaker 1: a potential destination. There's other places that obviously are looking

688
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: for the services we talked about, Like depending on ty

689
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 1: Simpson's draft grade, maybe Bama then is in the mix.

690
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: You know, Sam Levitt will be one of the more

691
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: talked about, you know, quarterbacks in the portal given his

692
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 1: production the last two years, So there will be some

693
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Speaker 1: there will be some movement potentially, you know, Underwood staying

694
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 1: at Michigan. I had a good conversation with Kyle Whittingham.

695
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Speaker 1: But in regards to at least what's left out there,

696
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Speaker 1: Sam Levitt still hasn't decided. Dylan Ryola still han't decided.

697
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: There's a number of other quarterbacks that are in the mix.

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Speaker 7: I just.

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Speaker 4: The whole thing is bananas to me, Like just the

700
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 4: amount of the idea that it's not even the dollar

701
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 4: amount that's going out to these guys, just all of

702
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 4: these just the movement there.

703
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 7: You know, one year you're here, one year you're there.

704
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 7: You know.

705
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 4: Now more of the job is trying to convince somebody

706
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 4: to stick around that it is convinced somebody to.

707
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Speaker 6: Try and retention man there's a retention budget.

708
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,839
Speaker 1: And look, the reality is most corporations realize this too,

709
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: especially especially if you're in the tech industry, right, Like,

710
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: you don't want to lose top talent, So you have

711
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: a certain amount set aside for retention, you know, for

712
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: bonuses and trying to you know, allow your employees to

713
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: be able to make more, you know, as more companies

714
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 1: start up, trying to pull them away, pry them away.

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Speaker 4: God, could you imagine you guys go going back to

716
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 4: Penn State, Notre Dame after every year asking for more,

717
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 4: just don't want more, like I need more?

718
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 7: They give me more of that?

719
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,240
Speaker 3: Would you be Boston balls for more cash?

720
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Speaker 5: You're at first of all, me and Joe weren't that.

721
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 5: We weren't close when when I was in school. So

722
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 5: how would that conversation have.

723
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 6: Gone with it?

724
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 5: Oh don't know, And I'm glad I don't have to

725
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 5: answer it, That's all I'm gonna say.

726
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 7: Why not?

727
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I told did I ever tell y'all the

728
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 5: story I was? I was thinking about transferring after my

729
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:39,919
Speaker 5: freshman year. Where'd you have gone? I went and hung out.

730
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 5: I didn't go on a visit. I went and hung

731
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Speaker 5: out with one of my friends.

732
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Speaker 7: At PITT. I was going to go back home and

733
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Speaker 7: go play for PITT.

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Speaker 6: I thought, you're gonna say in Miami something like that.

735
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 5: No, no, no, I was going to go back home.

736
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Speaker 5: And and so Miami was actually Miami, Florida State, Miami

737
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 5: where my top two picks pitting Penn State were my

738
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 5: my next picks.

739
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 7: And once I got closer to.

740
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Speaker 5: Leaving for sor of making a decision, it became more

741
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 5: about the accessibility for my family. So it would have

742
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 5: been difficult for them to.

743
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,080
Speaker 7: Get to Florida all the time.

744
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 5: And so I started kind of taking a harder look

745
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 5: at at other schools. So it's funny, like I'm sitting

746
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 5: there dealing with, you know, personality, clashing with with my

747
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 5: head coach, and I didn't know if I would ever play.

748
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 5: There was a dude ahead of me that was a

749
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 5: red shirt freshman that was two times state champion in

750
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 5: one hundred meters, like four time state champion and wrestling

751
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 5: like dude was a stud white dude.

752
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: Hell yeah, of top Brady.

753
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 5: So you're talking about a white dude at linebacker, you

754
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 5: that has accolades that are phenomenal, And I couldn't beat him.

755
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 5: Out like freshman year, I was behind a fifth year

756
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 5: senior and he and I were the backups to a

757
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 5: fifth year senior. But coming out of that freshman year

758
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 5: in the spring, it was clear that I was second

759
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 5: on the depth chart and was not moving.

760
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,479
Speaker 7: Who is this unicorn? His name is.

761
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 5: Aaron Gatton and his son is really good now too, apparently.

762
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 5: And so anyway, I thought about transferring, and that was

763
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 5: before the portal and all that stuff was a thing,

764
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 5: but I chose to stick it out. You know, had

765
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 5: a couple really really good people giving me great advice

766
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 5: and just you know, the community meant more.

767
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 7: To me than anything else.

768
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 5: So I started really taking a good, good heart look

769
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 5: at more.

770
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 7: Than just football, you know how.

771
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 5: Yeah that like come to Jesus moment where you said earlier,

772
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 5: like this is it for him, Like it's over, Like

773
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 5: once this game is over, it's over.

774
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 7: I started looking at it like once it's over, it's over.

775
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 5: So, you know, I'm just going really really focus in

776
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 5: on I had some really really great relationships, and I

777
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 5: needed to really focus in on the fact that there

778
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 5: were some really really great people within the world of

779
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 5: academia that really thought very highly.

780
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 7: I mean, and I needed to.

781
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 5: Really pay attention to what I wanted to do for

782
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 5: my future outside of the game of go figure, outside

783
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 5: of football, but football wise, I really did think about

784
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 5: transferring to go somewhere else because I didn't think that

785
00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 5: I would ever break the starting lineup.

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Speaker 4: We will get back into the NFL conversation of another

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Speaker 4: type coming up top of next hour. But I mean, Brady,

815
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,400
Speaker 4: what's your problem with the colts?

816
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: Man?

817
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 4: Like, what's what's the issue here? I mean, Riley Leonard

818
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 4: goes out and you know, he's slinging it around a

819
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:50,400
Speaker 4: little bit.

820
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll ask you guys, because my observation was Riley

821
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: goes out there and plays phenomenal, and I'm like, all right,

822
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: why didn't I mean, he played well enough to get

823
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: them a win. You know, they scored thirty points. I

824
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: kind of watched it just go why why didn't why

825
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 1: didn't you just.

826
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Speaker 6: Let him play?

827
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Speaker 1: Why did you need to bring back Philip Rivers like

828
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: the deep balls, his ability to run and.

829
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Speaker 6: Create and make plays with his legs.

830
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Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to be critical of the philip

831
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: Rivers play necessarily, but why did they feel like they

832
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Speaker 1: needed to go with him, Like Roley Leonard was a

833
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 1: draft pick that you made, and you could have gotten

834
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,800
Speaker 1: a better idea of what he's capable of doing instead

835
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 1: of one game, he could have had a much greater

836
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Speaker 1: sample size and.

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Speaker 6: Maybe he would have won you some of those games.

838
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Speaker 5: They were still trying to make the playoffs when they

839
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Speaker 5: brought him in, Right Rivers. Yeah, yeah, and it's.

840
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 7: Like chances were slim at that point.

841
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 5: Okay, I look at what I said that when they

842
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 5: were talking about bringing them in, Why are you bringing

843
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 5: them in? I said, saying thing, But if you're saying

844
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,240
Speaker 5: it retrospectively, like all right, see.

845
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Speaker 1: What it's like after watching, because the logical thought is

846
00:40:58,320 --> 00:40:59,840
Speaker 1: they didn't feel like the rookie was ready. Maybe they

847
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: don't one of they don't feel like he gives him

848
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: the best chance to win. Then you go back and

849
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: watch that and go wit a second.

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Speaker 6: He looked really looks great. What are we doing over here?

851
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 4: And it wasn't like he was just dinking and dunk

852
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,839
Speaker 4: and he was slinging it too. I mean, and by

853
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 4: the way, like the rivers couldn't do that. Wouldn't you

854
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 4: think that ers would have saw that. Notice that if

855
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 4: she was standing on the sideline taking notes store in practice,

856
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 4: this is the problem, Like like you're you're you're talking

857
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 4: about this in terms of a normal all the way

858
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 4: there organization. The Colts do weird stuff, man, and they

859
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 4: have for years, Like they just did Jeff Saturday the

860
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 4: quarterback carousel. Like it's just it's a weird run organization,

861
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 4: and it appears it still is.

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Speaker 6: I mean, the river stuff was fun, it really was.

863
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Speaker 7: I'm just I felt like Saturday stuff it's fun too.

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Speaker 6: You always got to bring it up there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, stupid just Saturday, that's Tuesday, Saturday.