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Speaker 1: I hope to see you there. It was early morning Sunday,
Speaker 1: July thirteenth, nineteen eighty as a coach full of excited
Speaker 1: children dressed in majorrette uniforms rumbled along the M one
Speaker 1: in central England. The Zingaris, a junior marching band from
Speaker 1: clay Cross in Derbyshire, were on their way to the
Speaker 1: hollandwell Annual Show to take part in a marching band competition.
Speaker 1: The children chatted noisily as the band's founder and leader,
Speaker 1: Judy Vaughan, watching over them like a hawk, went through
Speaker 1: their setlist again in her head. Just after eight a m.
Speaker 1: The bus decelerated suddenly and made a slow, lumbering turn
Speaker 1: into a field littered with parked cars and buses. The
Speaker 1: children cheered in unison, forcing Judy to raise her voice
Speaker 1: to tell them to calm down and wait in their
Speaker 1: seats until the bus had come to a complete stop. Ordinarily,
Speaker 1: hollandwell Field, located near the small Nottinghamshire mining town of
Speaker 1: Kirby and Ashfield, was little more than a large patch
Speaker 1: of grass surrounded by farmland, but that Sunday it teemed
Speaker 1: with activity and noise, with several hundred children, teachers and
Speaker 1: parents having gathered there for the show. Porterloos were being refreshed.
Speaker 1: Generators started up to run the many food stalls selling
Speaker 1: hot dogs, candy, floss and ice cream, while the local
Speaker 1: Saint John's Ambulance Brigade added the finishing touches to their tent.
Speaker 1: The Hollinwell Band Competition would involve five hundred children from
Speaker 1: eleven junior marching bands. With a bright, clear sky above
Speaker 1: and the excited band confident in their routine. It was
Speaker 1: set to be the perfect day, but all that was
Speaker 1: about to change. You're listening to Unexplained and I'm Richard
Speaker 1: McLean Smith. Marching bands are especially popular in northern and
Speaker 1: central England and largely in former mining communities. Very much
Speaker 1: in vogue in the nineteen eighties, junior bands were often
Speaker 1: called jazz bands, despite playing an eclectic range of tunes.
Speaker 1: The name was more because the whole enterprise was thought
Speaker 1: of as jazzy. The kids loved getting dressed up and
Speaker 1: wearing sashiers with all their medals. Coaches began arriving early
Speaker 1: at the Hollandwell Showground, each full of children aged between
Speaker 1: five and fifteen wearing bright major at uniforms. The jazz
Speaker 1: band competition would begin with an inspection in which each
Speaker 1: band was judged for the neatness of their outfits. Then
Speaker 1: each group was given a slot to perform a fifteen
Speaker 1: to twenty minute long display on which they would be
Speaker 1: judged again. It was going to be a long day.
Speaker 1: Luckily it was shaping up to be a pleasant one,
Speaker 1: being sunny with just a few clouds here and there.
Speaker 1: As Judy ushered the kids off the coach, she urged
Speaker 1: them all to visit the port to lose first, before
Speaker 1: returning to get themselves ready for the inspection. A short
Speaker 1: time later, the band were all back and neatly assembled.
Speaker 1: Terry Bingham, the band secretary, and Judy fussed over them,
Speaker 1: adjusting outfits and giving last minute pointers on routines they'd
Speaker 1: been practicing for months. As Judy reminded them the event
Speaker 1: was highly competitive and every band would be giving it
Speaker 1: their all. The youthful excitement and tension in the air
Speaker 1: was palpable as the Zagaris lined up for their inspection.
Speaker 1: After what seemed an age, the judges finally finished their
Speaker 1: assessment and the bands were ready to begin. Eight year
Speaker 1: old Claire Hughes from Kirby and Ashfield played the tambourine
Speaker 1: in one of the bands and had come to the
Speaker 1: event with her granddad. They both watched on as one
Speaker 1: of the top bands began performing an elaborate routine. It
Speaker 1: had just gone eleven fifteen as the band marched from
Speaker 1: the arena that the lead girl began to stagger slightly,
Speaker 1: then suddenly collapsed to the ground. Then a loud gasp
Speaker 1: rang out from the crowd as one by one, five
Speaker 1: of her fellow band members then collapsed behind her. Parents
Speaker 1: and carers sprinted over to help and found the children
Speaker 1: either unresponsive or strangely dazed. Pulling them up, they carried
Speaker 1: them hurriedly to the Saint John's Ambulance tent, where water
Speaker 1: and first aid were swiftly administered. Tight fitting uniforms were
Speaker 1: loosened and the children cooled down as best as possible.
Speaker 1: Before long they'd all come round, having seemingly just collapsed
Speaker 1: from heat exhaustion from having been kept standing to attention
Speaker 1: for over an hour, then performing an energetic routine under
Speaker 1: the blazing sun. But then more children started to collapse.
Speaker 1: Photographer Neil Lancashire happened to set up his store close
Speaker 1: to the ambulance tent. He watched with alarm as one
Speaker 1: and then a second group of kids were stretchered in
Speaker 1: by Saint John's Ambulance volunteers. Then he heard muttering among
Speaker 1: some of the spectators. Perhaps it wasn't exhaustion at all,
Speaker 1: they wandered, but food poisoning. Just then, as if echoing
Speaker 1: what the photographer had just hurt, an announcement suddenly boomed
Speaker 1: from the tannoy system. Don't eat the ice cream. There
Speaker 1: may be a problem with the ice cream, it warned.
Speaker 1: No sooner had the announcement been made than another group
Speaker 1: of children in uniform keeled over. As parents and teachers
Speaker 1: swarmed around the fallen children, another tannoy announcement blared across
Speaker 1: the field. Don't eat the sweets either, there might be
Speaker 1: a problem with them two. Just then, on the far
Speaker 1: side of the field, another group of children collapsed. Following that,
Speaker 1: one of the food vendors wandered aloud if it might
Speaker 1: in fact be something to do with the water, provoking
Speaker 1: another urgent announcement over the tannoy, don't drink the water.
Speaker 1: There may be a problem with that too, And sure enough,
Speaker 1: another group of children collapsed seemingly in response. Screams were
Speaker 1: hurt as the crowd became ever more distressed, wondering who
Speaker 1: might be effected next. Neil the photographer snatched up one
Speaker 1: of his cameras and started taking shots of the mayhem
Speaker 1: steadily unfolding around him. By then so many children had
Speaker 1: collapsed there wasn't room for all of them in the
Speaker 1: first a tent. So new patients were laid on the
Speaker 1: ground outside. But first responders had been so focused on
Speaker 1: the children, no one had noticed that spectators were also
Speaker 1: now falling to the ground. Some started to complain of
Speaker 1: headaches and feeling pins and needles in their tongues and lips.
Speaker 1: Others clutched at their stomachs, feeling cramps. A man stumbled
Speaker 1: up to the ambulance volunteers, complaining of weakness in his
Speaker 1: arms and legs. He said it felt as if they
Speaker 1: had no bones in them enid homes. The secretary of
Speaker 1: another marching band tended to one of her troop, pulling
Speaker 1: their jacket off. She was horrified to see strange blobs
Speaker 1: had appeared on their back and legs, which, on closer
Speaker 1: inspection seemed to be water filled blisters. Later other people
Speaker 1: would mention that their eyes and noses had begun to sting.
Speaker 1: Some complained of a bad taste in their mouths, or
Speaker 1: of burning sensation at the back of their throats. A
Speaker 1: few people said that the grass looked dusty and in
Speaker 1: places appeared to have a weird blue color. Then another
Speaker 1: tannoy announcement rang out, stay off the raf it'd been
Speaker 1: sprayed with insecticide. Then another group of children collapsed and
Speaker 1: the event was hurriedly called off. As one paramedic and
Speaker 1: his partner raced towards the Hollandwell showgrounds in their ambulance,
Speaker 1: the radio squawked out an endless request for all hands
Speaker 1: to make their way to the annual show. Having assumed
Speaker 1: they were heading towards a major road traffic accident, they
Speaker 1: were surprised when they pulled onto Hollenwell Field and found
Speaker 1: something else. Entirely, it was like a surreal battleground, with
Speaker 1: collapsed children dressed in bright military uniforms lying on the
Speaker 1: ground everywhere, surrounded by worried adults. When the paramedic stepped
Speaker 1: out of his ambulance, he noticed something else, a strong
Speaker 1: and peculiar odour in the air. Eight year old Claire
Speaker 1: Brown and her granddad watched stunt as more and more
Speaker 1: ambulances came through the gate. It was only then that
Speaker 1: they and the people around them since the full seriousness
Speaker 1: of the situation. Then the police arrived too and began
Speaker 1: clearing the sight, Singari's band leader Judy Vaughn, rounded up
Speaker 1: what was left of her troop and ushered them onto
Speaker 1: their coach. Elsewhere, club secretary Terry Bingham was driving six
Speaker 1: of them, who'd all come down with various ailments, to
Speaker 1: the local hospital. But as Terry drove, he started to
Speaker 1: feel unwell too, and a sharp pain began to spread
Speaker 1: across his chest. As the Cingari's coach pulled out onto
Speaker 1: the road. For a few minutes, all seemed to be
Speaker 1: well with the remaining children. Then Judy heard crying coming
Speaker 1: from the back of the bus. Judy made her way
Speaker 1: down the aisle and soon found the sick girl lying
Speaker 1: across two seats. She had red irritated eyes and said
Speaker 1: it was too sore to sit up. Then a cry
Speaker 1: came out from elsewhere on the bus from another girl
Speaker 1: with the exact same symptoms. In a panic, Judy immediately
Speaker 1: had the coach driver turn them around and drive them
Speaker 1: straight to the hospital. Once there, the various members of
Speaker 1: the Cingaris were examined by medical staff, but were all
Speaker 1: eventually discharged when doctors failed to establish any genuine cause
Speaker 1: of their symptoms. When eight year old Claire Brown finally
Speaker 1: made it home with her grandad. She ran out to
Speaker 1: play in the back garden, having seemingly escaped any harm
Speaker 1: from the showground. It was a few hours later as
Speaker 1: Claire played under the soft afternoon sun, then she found
Speaker 1: the light feeling suddenly too bright, and the sound of
Speaker 1: the birds chirping in a nearby tree eerie and distorted.
Speaker 1: Claire staggered across the lawn and tottered unsteadily into the kitchen.
Speaker 1: Glancing up, her mother was aghast at what she saw.
Speaker 1: The little girl was swaying and foaming at the mouth,
Speaker 1: her eyes red raw and streaming. Claire was rushed to
Speaker 1: hospital immediately, where she was kept in for the night
Speaker 1: for observation. By the end of that strange Sunday, around
Speaker 1: four hundred victims from hollandwell Field had received medical attention.
Speaker 1: Due to the sheer numbers, every hospital in Nottinghamshire had
Speaker 1: ended up receiving affected people for observation and treatment. As
Speaker 1: police moved in to investigate, public health officials from Kirby
Speaker 1: and Ashfield's District Council began taking samples of food and
Speaker 1: drink from all the stores, as well as sampling the water,
Speaker 1: soil and grass. An official inquiry was immediately set up.
Speaker 1: Speculation about the cause of the incident was rife, with
Speaker 1: theories ranging from the mundane to the extravagantly bizarre. One
Speaker 1: contended that aliens had landed in the field next to
Speaker 1: the event, causing the outbreak of an unknown illness, but
Speaker 1: no one had caught even the slightest glimpse of anything
Speaker 1: strange in the skies over Nottinghamshire, so that theory was
Speaker 1: soon replaced by another. For some time, it had been
Speaker 1: speculated that top secret weaponry involving the beaming of microwave
Speaker 1: radiation had been used by the government of the Soviet
Speaker 1: Union to covertly destabilize their opponents. After the incident at
Speaker 1: hollinwell Field, some began to wonder if the UK had
Speaker 1: employed the exact same thing targeting the nineteen eighties Summer
Speaker 1: Olympic Games, which were due to start six days later
Speaker 1: on July nineteenth in Moscow. The official inquiry certainly had
Speaker 1: its work cut out. There were a number of key
Speaker 1: facts that didn't seem to make any sense. Why did
Speaker 1: many of the victims collapse in a relatively small part
Speaker 1: of the field, and why did it happen to small
Speaker 1: groups of people, typically five or six at a time,
Speaker 1: rather than everyone at once. Why of the one hundred
Speaker 1: ninety three hospitalized children from marching bands were the overwhelming
Speaker 1: majority girls one hundred and thirty seven of them, while
Speaker 1: only thirty seven were boys, And what had caused nine patients,
Speaker 1: including two babies, to have symptoms so concerning they were
Speaker 1: detained in hospital for one or two nights. As it
Speaker 1: turned out, the symptoms and their timing were not consistent
Speaker 1: with food poisoning. The water from the single drinking pipe
Speaker 1: at the site was also found not to be contaminated,
Speaker 1: and very few children had drunk from it anyway. Perhaps
Speaker 1: the crowds at Hollenwell had somehow been exposed to a
Speaker 1: toxic chemical wandered some, but blood and urine taken from
Speaker 1: victims all tested negative for toxic substances. The only seemingly
Speaker 1: solid clue was that doctors noted a few patients did
Speaker 1: show symptoms of inhaling something toxic. Singari's band leader Judy Vaughan,
Speaker 1: noticed that the band's uniforms began to emit a very
Speaker 1: strong chemical odor when she washed them later that day,
Speaker 1: despite leaving them soaking overnight and changing the water several times,
Speaker 1: the unpleasant chemical smell had not shifted. Not long after,
Speaker 1: Terry Bingham, the band secretary, returned home complaining of a
Speaker 1: pain in his chest. He too was rushed off to hospital.
Speaker 1: After being examined by a doctor. He was given a
Speaker 1: sealed letter to take to his gp back at home.
Speaker 1: Irritated that they wouldn't tell him directly what it said,
Speaker 1: Terry is said to have steamed the letter open to
Speaker 1: read for himself. He was horrified to discover. The hospital's
Speaker 1: conclusion was that his symptoms were most likely the result
Speaker 1: of exposure to a poison. The possibility that people at
Speaker 1: the Hollinwell Annual show had been exposed to some kind
Speaker 1: of chemical poison was on the minds of the official
Speaker 1: investigators too. On questioning the surrounding farmers, one was found
Speaker 1: to have spray his crops with the chemical collixin, which
Speaker 1: contained the fungicide tridomorph. This fungicide has since been found
Speaker 1: to be so toxic when inhaled or ingested, with symptoms
Speaker 1: including skin and eye irritation. It was banned from use
Speaker 1: in the UK in two thousand, but the spraying had
Speaker 1: been carried out three days before the event. Several fields
Speaker 1: away from the Hollandwell site, and little to no evidence
Speaker 1: of tridomorph was found on the grass and soil samples.
Speaker 1: The next theory examined was whether a fire at a
Speaker 1: plastics factory some miles away had spread toxic fumes over
Speaker 1: the field, but again that cause was ruled out too
Speaker 1: since the wind had been blowing in the wrong direction
Speaker 1: at the time. Then another line of inquiry emerged. There
Speaker 1: are over one hundred and fifty thousand abandoned mines across
Speaker 1: the UK, and mine workings often extend for long distances
Speaker 1: underground and were not always properly mapped. Across England, it
Speaker 1: said that more than one hundred and thirty thousand residential
Speaker 1: and commercial properties across England are within just twenty meters
Speaker 1: of an abandoned mine shaft. Often there are few if
Speaker 1: any signs at the surface that the old mine workings
Speaker 1: are present below. And Nottinghamshire was once a cornerstone of
Speaker 1: the British coal mining industry, with some of the nation's
Speaker 1: largest and most productive deep mind coal reserves carved out
Speaker 1: from underneath it. Once abandoned underground mines can accumulate gases
Speaker 1: like methane, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, and hydrogen sulfite that
Speaker 1: can sometimes see park from below. Residents in homes above
Speaker 1: such areas have reported experiencing headaches, breathlessness, dizziness, dry coughs,
Speaker 1: and anxiety caused by rising gases. During the inquiry into
Speaker 1: what became known as the Hollindwell incident, it was confirmed
Speaker 1: that there were indeed old mine workings underneath Hollinwell Field.
Speaker 1: Staff from the National Coal Board had even been at
Speaker 1: the site the week before the Marching Band competition, but
Speaker 1: yet again investigators drew a blank. The Coal Board had
Speaker 1: merely been inspecting a borehole that had been solidly capped
Speaker 1: and sealed before the work has left. In the end, incredibly,
Speaker 1: when the official report came out, it said that what
Speaker 1: had happened at Hollandwell was unrelated to any environmental hazard. Instead,
Speaker 1: it concluded something unexpected and highly controversial, that the event
Speaker 1: had been caused by mass hysteria due to a combination
Speaker 1: of the warm weather compounded by the hot and tight
Speaker 1: fitting costumes that many of the marching band children had
Speaker 1: been wearing, all of which had been exacerbated by the
Speaker 1: nervous excitement of participants and spectators and the alarming tannoy
Speaker 1: announcements which had supposedly reinforced the panic. Unsurprisingly, the mass
Speaker 1: hysteria finding of the official Hollandwell report was not well
Speaker 1: received by many of the p people who'd actually been there.
Speaker 1: Unexplained has covered strange stories of mass hysteria before, like
Speaker 1: the dancing plague of Strasbourg in season eight, episode twenty seven,
Speaker 1: but while that is thought to be due to mass
Speaker 1: hysteria in motor behavior, the Hollandwell incident was considered to
Speaker 1: be an outbreak of mass anxiety hysteria. Many might have
Speaker 1: heard of this type of outbreak happening at pop concerts,
Speaker 1: for example, it seems to happen most where there as
Speaker 1: a crowd of people in a state of nervous excitement
Speaker 1: combined with heat and long periods of waiting. Such cases
Speaker 1: are especially prevalent in groups of school children and factory workers,
Speaker 1: often with girls and women disproportionately affected. On average, sixty
Speaker 1: seven percent of victims report headaches, around half feel dizzy,
Speaker 1: while nausea crops up forty one percent of the time
Speaker 1: and irritated eyes in thirteen percent of cases, a mass
Speaker 1: hysteria event took place one October morning in nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: five at a girls school in Blackburn in northern England.
Speaker 1: Within a couple of hours, eighty five girls from the
Speaker 1: school were rushed by ambulance to a nearby hospital after
Speaker 1: fainting or becoming dizzy. Clinical and laboratory tests showed no
Speaker 1: evidence of food poisoning or air pollution. The day before
Speaker 1: the outbreak, the children had taken part in a three
Speaker 1: hour parade where twenty of them had seemingly collapsed. It
Speaker 1: was concluded that this, along with the communal distress caused
Speaker 1: by a recent polio epidemic in the area, had combined
Speaker 1: to trigger the hysteria. Similarly, in two thousand nine, there
Speaker 1: were a spate of what initially appeared to be poisonings
Speaker 1: at girls schools across Afghanistan, with dizziness, fainting, and vomiting
Speaker 1: also recorded, but despite investigations by the United Nations and
Speaker 1: the World Health Allas Organization, no evidence of any toxins
Speaker 1: or poisoning was ever found In the hundreds of blood,
Speaker 1: urine and water samples tested. Again, the conclusion was that
Speaker 1: the girls had experienced a mass psychogenic event. Some of
Speaker 1: the symptoms reported from the Hollandwell event did fit with
Speaker 1: the mass hysteria hypothesis, but not foaming at the mouth
Speaker 1: or skin blisters. Many who were at the Hollandwell showground
Speaker 1: were not convinced by the explanation why, they asked, would
Speaker 1: some children and adults not become afflicted until several hours
Speaker 1: after they had gone home? And how could babies get hysteria.
Speaker 1: There was even a report in the Forteen Times, the
Speaker 1: British magazine reporting on Strange Phenomena and paranormal occurrences, that
Speaker 1: several horses and dogs present at or near the event
Speaker 1: had also collapsed, with some voicing their concerns over the
Speaker 1: inquiry publicly. The area's local member of parliament at the time,
Speaker 1: Dennis Skinner, complained that the investigation had not been sufficiently
Speaker 1: thorough because it had only affected working class people, who
Speaker 1: were also powerless to challenge it. The official report did
Speaker 1: concede that hospital tests on some patients showed slight evidence
Speaker 1: that a toxic substance had been inhaled or consumed, but
Speaker 1: what that toxin might have been was left unresolved, and
Speaker 1: over time the Hollinwell incident steadily vanished from news headlines
Speaker 1: and receded in the public consciousness. Then, in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 1: a pair of reporters from BBC Radio Nottingham began to
Speaker 1: wonder whether there might have been another Courts. Together, they
Speaker 1: approached John Wright, a senior lecturer in chemistry and forensic
Speaker 1: science at Nottingham Trent University, and asked him to reevaluate
Speaker 1: the evidence from four decades ago in case of fresh
Speaker 1: perspective could shed new light on the puzzle. After sifting
Speaker 1: through all the available evidence, Wright concluded that the symptoms
Speaker 1: had to be due to some sort of chemical reaction,
Speaker 1: and there was one incredibly mundane yet potentially lethal culprit
Speaker 1: connected to the on site toilets, which had been given
Speaker 1: a cursory mention in the original report. In twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: thirty four year old Celia Seymour from Feltham and West
Speaker 1: London was reported to have died from a fatal asthma
Speaker 1: attack while cleaning her bathroom. It had been triggered by
Speaker 1: a gas that she unwittingly created after mixing large amounts
Speaker 1: of bleach and toilet cleaner together. Chemist John Wright had
Speaker 1: spotted that the original report on Hollinwell described how the
Speaker 1: toilet block consisted of six chemical closets along with the
Speaker 1: urinal which discharged into a pit close by. The report
Speaker 1: also noted that the toilets appeared to have been recently
Speaker 1: cleaned with an over liberal use of bleaching powder and
Speaker 1: a powerful disinfectant. A noxious aroma of chlorine and ammonia
Speaker 1: had also been reported emanating from the toilet block, which
Speaker 1: had only been twenty yards from where many of the
Speaker 1: children had been standing and performing. The forensic scientist suspected
Speaker 1: that the cleaning products, intensified by the weather, might have
Speaker 1: reacted to produce a cloud of near lethal chlorine gas,
Speaker 1: the very same dense, pale green gas used extensively as
Speaker 1: a chemical weapon in World War One. Symptoms of chlorine
Speaker 1: gas poisoning include coughing, nausea, and watering eyes. If inhaled,
Speaker 1: it irritates the lungs, makes people foam at the mouth,
Speaker 1: and significant direct exposure can cause skin blisters. Claire Brown,
Speaker 1: for one, who was eight when she became a victim
Speaker 1: of the incident, has suffered a series of health problems
Speaker 1: over the years, including infertility, endometriosis, having to have a
Speaker 1: kidney removed, and breast cancer. She's pondered many times if
Speaker 1: any of it was related to that strange balmy day
Speaker 1: in July nineteen eighty, or perhaps there hadn't been any
Speaker 1: type of poisoning at all. Certainly, experts studying the nocebo effect,
Speaker 1: a kind of inverse of the placebo effect, in which
Speaker 1: the suggestion of illness alone can cause real physical symptoms,
Speaker 1: has explored in season seven, episode twenty three, the box
Speaker 1: might beg to differ either way. Forty five years after
Speaker 1: the event, it seems the true cause of the Hollingwell
Speaker 1: incident is destined to remain stubbornly unexplained. This episode was
Speaker 1: written by Diane Hope and produced by Richard McLain smith.
Speaker 1: Thank you as ever for listening. Unexplained as an AV
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