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Speaker 1: What's happened? Everybody.

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Speaker 2: Happy Monday to you wherever you are. Welcome you into

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Speaker 2: Texans All Access Sean Harris alongside the Voice of the

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Speaker 2: Texans Mark vandermiir Boy, we got plenty to talk about tonight.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have our good friend Toro on the air.

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Speaker 2: Well, it's not quite Toro, because we know Toro does

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Speaker 2: he's not really good to have on the air. But

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Speaker 2: we have the man who is Toro, Andrew Johnson, going

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Speaker 2: to join us and talk a little bit more about

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Speaker 2: Toro's opportunity for the Hall of Fame. The voting has

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Speaker 2: opened up Mascot Hall of Fame dot com. He'll tell

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Speaker 2: us that in a little bit. Also, Drew stops by

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Speaker 2: for a little in the lab a little later on.

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Speaker 2: As we talk about don't forget about me, guys. He

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Speaker 2: stole your thing, Mark, he stole it.

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Speaker 3: But you look about me, guys, I don't mind having

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Speaker 3: that as a station or station Texans Radio brand if

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Speaker 3: you will, right, don't forget about me, guys. Brought to

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Speaker 3: you bye. You know we could do that. You could

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Speaker 3: have it sponsored. It'll be awesome, get it viral. But

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Speaker 3: that's something that we revisit time and time again. Absolutely

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Speaker 3: training camp, OTAs all throughout the off season.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget about me, guys.

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Speaker 2: That is one of my favorite segments to do in

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Speaker 2: training camp because once you get about halfway through training camp,

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Speaker 2: you know, everybody wants to talk about all the position

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Speaker 2: battles and all that, and you get to a point

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Speaker 2: where you've talked about him so often you're mentioning the

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Speaker 2: same guys and it's like, hey, don't forget about me.

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Speaker 2: Over here speaking out. I was watching the Stallions in

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Speaker 2: the Roughnecks yesterday and Khalil Davis twin brother Carlos Davis

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Speaker 2: good sack for Birmingham. I was like, man, yeah, that

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Speaker 2: a boy car to get back into the league. Maybe, yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe getting back in the league.

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Speaker 3: I got another category though, similar to don't forget about

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Speaker 3: me guy is from fatal Attraction, I will not be

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Speaker 3: ignored guy, which I think is more of an established

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Speaker 3: veteran who we don't talk about enough, right. Don't forget

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Speaker 3: about me guy to me is a guy who's kind

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Speaker 3: of on the perimeter a little bit. Yeah it could

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Speaker 3: but a veteran.

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Speaker 1: Who I will not be ignored.

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Speaker 3: You know, that could be somebody like, uh, every time

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Speaker 3: you say it, that's Glinn close.

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Speaker 1: I will not be ignored, Dan.

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Speaker 3: It's almost like one of those O'Brien things like losing

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Speaker 3: is bad Tanya or AFC South Champs, Brian, I will

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Speaker 3: not be ignored, Dan. You could have that for say, uh,

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Speaker 3: if we're in camp or we're talking about tight ends,

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Speaker 3: we forget to mention Bret Jordan or something that's I

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Speaker 3: will not be ignored.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget about me, my, don't forget about me. Guy

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Speaker 1: is an.

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Speaker 2: Ivy leaguer, is an IVY leaguered the Texans for the

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Speaker 2: Houston Texas, So that would be I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 2: that's that's a tease in the business. Oh okay for

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Speaker 2: the in the loud of teas.

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Speaker 1: Uh, speaking of teas, we've been teasing.

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Speaker 2: In fact, the other day when we did our mock schedule,

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Speaker 2: which was very, very fun to do.

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Speaker 1: That's Thursday show. Go check it out on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: It was fantastic. Other than week one when I said

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Speaker 2: we would play all Chargers in Brazil, Oh, you were wrong.

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Speaker 2: I was wrong kind on purpose, but I was wrong.

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Speaker 2: The Texans will not actually not only will they not

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Speaker 2: play in Brazil, they will not play outside the United

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Speaker 2: not play outside. The Chargers will play the Chiefs in

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Speaker 2: South Paulo, Brazil. Those that's not announced, that'll be announced tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: But we have got numerous reports and you kind of

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Speaker 3: Okay, but that happened. When did you get that information?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I got my information on Friday. Okay, so is

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Speaker 3: I got some information that indicated it was pretty darn

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Speaker 2: Going to London, and we knew it for a long

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Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, and it didn't happen.

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Speaker 3: And then this year going to Mexico for Shizzle, you're

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Speaker 3: However, I don't think the NFL wanted to mess with it.

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Speaker 3: because it affects season ticket sales for or the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 3: They had to know whether they had a game or not,

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Speaker 1: Now, I know.

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Speaker 2: People heard that, well, wait, that's just Brazil. Well there

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Speaker 2: Colts in Berlin and the Jags in Wembley. But neither

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Speaker 2: one of those will come to fruition. Benjamin Albright, who

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Speaker 2: He can be kind of a what's the right way

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Speaker 2: He tweeted this on This is actually backaways, he said,

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Speaker 1: But per multiple sources, the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: Are expected to be the visiting team for the international

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Speaker 3: And that makes sense because the Jags have the Rams

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Speaker 1: Right, we're opposite, We're what we are the Colts.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm curious to see because the Colts and the

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Speaker 3: The Colts will have the two trips to LA. It's

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Speaker 3: maybe they do them a solid and leave them out

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Speaker 3: them how they would interpret that. You gotta have a

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Speaker 1: So that's a fact.

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Speaker 3: Jack, You're going to LA twice now, and we don't

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Speaker 2: I was talking to one of our sources and he

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Speaker 2: So that would be kind that would be kind of nice.

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Speaker 2: Obviously you butt up against you know, is is U c.

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Speaker 3: Because don't the college teams practice later in the day

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Speaker 3: because they allegedly.

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Speaker 2: Have class, yeah, allegedly, or they practice really early in

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Speaker 1: So you go either way.

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Speaker 2: And the thing is if you're staying, say you're doing

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Speaker 2: that Sunday to Thursday thing, and we've talked about.

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Speaker 1: You're just walking through stuff. You just walking Sunday to Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right, Sunday to Sunday Sunday different actual practices.

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Speaker 1: But check this out.

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Speaker 1: It's not a big deal.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you could pull it off, yeah, because what

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Speaker 1: And everything like that. Yep.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if they'd want to, but they probably could.

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Speaker 1: I don't know you could, but I'd rather stay out.

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Speaker 3: So that was before you know who in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what to make of this story.

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Speaker 2: But here's the one thing that keeps coming to mind.

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Speaker 2: And we're talking about Bill Belichick. If you couldn't figure

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Speaker 2: what I When Bill Belichick took the job in North Carolina,

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Speaker 2: I remember one of the first things you and I

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Speaker 2: discussed is, hey, is he gonna take bearsh Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Bears is basically was his chief of staff with the

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Speaker 2: about it. But Bears knew everything, did everything. Now he

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Speaker 2: works for Bill O'Brian at Boston College. Very smart higher

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Speaker 1: Very smart heart. It's the probably the one individual that

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Speaker 1: Bill needed to have here the entire time. I think

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Speaker 1: he was looking for that. Yes, never found it, never

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Speaker 2: I think Belichick was basically taking a North Carolina job,

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Speaker 2: can just be my Bears. I I can hear the conversation, like, listen,

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Speaker 2: Everything for Belichick went through Bearsh And I think that's

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Speaker 2: So like the theory, We'll we'll see where where that

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Speaker 1: We all know it. But Johnny, you're a network executive.

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Speaker 3: You got your pick of any Philadelphia Eagles opponent.

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Speaker 1: You know, we got a good shot, better shot.

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Speaker 3: Everybody brings their people here to watch their team play

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Speaker 3: They could protect two non division games, and they did

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Speaker 2: Be our first regular season game at so Far, that's right,

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Speaker 2: I thought, Oh, okay, that kind of confirms what I

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Speaker 3: This gets all the more seasoned viewers old to get

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Speaker 1: And they're going to do it now.

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Speaker 3: And so that exercise will produce, in YouTube's eyes, maybe

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Speaker 2: This was from Sports Illustrated. They put this out. Who

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Speaker 2: In on agreement with YouTube, which distributes the popular NFL

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Speaker 2: I get their emails every day.

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Speaker 1: So he said.

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Speaker 2: The intriguing part is the NFL wishes for the game

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Speaker 2: On Christmas Day, it set a streaming record with an

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Speaker 2: Chiefs the Steelers. Well, they're gonna blow it away. Go

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Speaker 1: I mean it's well.

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Speaker 3: Imagine a push notifications. NFL app obviously, but YouTube. Anybody

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Speaker 3: number for them. Now as far as the Eagles go,

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Speaker 1: To be the greatest game in NFL history. Who knows,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's one of the better rivalries that's there

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Speaker 1: Just going through the roof. It's the campfire, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's one of the few places where people

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Speaker 1: That that is a great point.

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Speaker 2: Can't he make it? We'll discuss that next right here

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Speaker 2: of Texans All Access from I'm not at Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 2: I am John Harrison. I looked down at my shirt.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: I thought maybe I'd spilled something. I looked down and

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Speaker 1: I saw a Pro Football Hall.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was just a bang up time.

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Speaker 2: And I thought about a potential All Famer that we

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Speaker 1: Well, the man who is Toro, Andrew Johnson.

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Speaker 2: Stepped in the studio and he didn't really have to,

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Speaker 1: We had a blast talking Andrew right here.

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Speaker 3: It's another visited studio, and we knew there had to

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Speaker 3: portray him, do you play him? How do you how

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00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,199
Speaker 3: do you worry that channel Toro?

443
00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, that's a good question. I mean you just

444
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,760
Speaker 4: embrace it. Become the become the bull.

445
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:44,320
Speaker 3: You become the character, the character of Toro. And has

446
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 3: the character of Toro. We'll get to the Hall of

447
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:48,360
Speaker 3: Fame stuff in a moment here. By the way, has

448
00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 3: the character of Toro changed? Because we talked last time

449
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 3: about Jonathan Frost, the first guy portrayed played Toro, Channel Toro,

450
00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,600
Speaker 3: and then you how does the character of Toro evolve?

451
00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,000
Speaker 1: Because Toro is a character right right?

452
00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 4: And I think that was a unique thing about taking

453
00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,320
Speaker 4: on this job. You know, Jonathan had done it for

454
00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,360
Speaker 4: fourteen years and had established who Toro was and what

455
00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 4: Toro's known for. Jonathan was doing some really crazy aerial

456
00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 4: stunts inside the stadium, and I remember when I was

457
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 4: here interviewing for the job and they were talking to

458
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: me about who Toro is, and I had obviously seen

459
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,080
Speaker 4: a lot of the crazy stunts he had done.

460
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know if I can do that.

461
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: So you're having to live up to the.

462
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,719
Speaker 4: Character that Jonathan had already created and I think hopefully

463
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,199
Speaker 4: we've been able to do that justice and carry on

464
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,359
Speaker 4: his legacy, but also add some new things into the mix.

465
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Speaker 4: I mean, social media really wasn't as big of a

466
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 4: thing when Jonathan was here, and I think that's something

467
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 4: that we've added to Torro's persona. He's known as a prankster,

468
00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 4: but he's also still known as that daredevil that Jonathan

469
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 4: kind of created for the Texans.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've done your share of repelling.

471
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you made us on the broadcast crew at times,

472
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 2: we have discussions during breaks and we see you up

473
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,119
Speaker 2: there and we're like, nope, nope, they're not one of us.

474
00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,360
Speaker 1: You could pay to go up there.

475
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 2: And you and I talked about I can't remember which

476
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 2: game it was, all that went in to your pregame

477
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: event and I can't remember.

478
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: I think you were repelling from the ceiling.

479
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: You were talking about how it was it was close,

480
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,879
Speaker 2: like there were so many people involved and you weren't

481
00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 2: confident about how it had gone kind of in testing.

482
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Speaker 1: I don't remember what event that was, Andrew, but do

483
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 1: you mind kind of going through that.

484
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:20,879
Speaker 2: Do you remember that, Like it was like one or

485
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: two in the morning and you were deciding whether you

486
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 2: were actually gonna do it for the game or not.

487
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 2: How often does something like that happen? And can you

488
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: take us kind of through that process of well, man,

489
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 2: this might be a little bit much.

490
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, the stunts are a lot of work,

491
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 4: and obviously people see the thirty second to sixty second

492
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 4: result on any given Sunday, but they don't understand that

493
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 4: the process starts so far in advance. So like right now,

494
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 4: we're actually having the conversations and brainstorming what we want

495
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,280
Speaker 4: to do for the twenty five season. So we're all

496
00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,360
Speaker 4: sitting around the table and here's the stunts, what we've

497
00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 4: done in the past, and we're talking to the stunt

498
00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:51,440
Speaker 4: crew about what could be possible.

499
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Speaker 1: So we want to take things to the next level.

500
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 4: We've obviously done some really cool things, but next season

501
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 4: is a completely blank slate, and so we're ide eating

502
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,520
Speaker 4: now and then once we get the schedule release next week,

503
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 4: then we'll actually put dates to when we want to

504
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:04,600
Speaker 4: do it. We usually like to do them around primetimes,

505
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 4: primetime games, and we have the eyes of the nation,

506
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,640
Speaker 4: so we'll select the dates, we'll select, the stunts will

507
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 4: select kind of brainstorm what the storyline is how do

508
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 4: we get to the actual stunt. Is it a video,

509
00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 4: is it some kind of pr stunt that leads into

510
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 4: this big stunt in stadium? But will ideate that we'll

511
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 4: go to contract with our stunt crew. They actually come

512
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 4: in from Arizona. They're not local, so there's two guys

513
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: that fly in from Arizona to bring them up. They've

514
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,239
Speaker 4: been here since the very beginning, and then we're having

515
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,119
Speaker 4: to communicate operationally around the building when they're coming in,

516
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,959
Speaker 4: where they're parking, how they're getting into the building, make

517
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 4: sure that everybody knows when they're going to be doing it.

518
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: When we're doing stunt practices and the game that you're referencing,

519
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 4: I think was our Christmas Day game. We were going

520
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 4: to do a big repel stunt in State. Well, we

521
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 4: originally wanted to do a big swing, and then we

522
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 4: realized that Beyonce was going to be hanging things from

523
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 4: the ceiling. She had different lighting structures, and she had

524
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 4: a stunt that she was doing herself, and so we're

525
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 4: having to work all of our rigging around what she had.

526
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 4: Not to mention that was also a two skycam game,

527
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,240
Speaker 4: so people don't think about how the aerial space inside

528
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:02,200
Speaker 4: the stadium is used, so we're having to share that airspace,

529
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,640
Speaker 4: and so if we're gonna do a big swing or things,

530
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,080
Speaker 4: we got to make sure that those ropes aren't going

531
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 4: to cross. So there's a lot of coordination that we

532
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 4: do with the building with Skycim. We've become really good

533
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 4: friends with them here over the years. And then we

534
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 4: actually have to rig up the stunt, and once that

535
00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 4: stunt is rigged, we do a thorough testing and so

536
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: we actually drop weight on all of our stunts before

537
00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 4: we ever put a human life on the line, and

538
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,320
Speaker 4: so we'll drop two hundred pounds worth of weight, whether

539
00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,119
Speaker 4: it be a repel or a swing or a reverse repel.

540
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,600
Speaker 4: We test the stunt with weight, then the stunt crew

541
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 4: does it, and then I get on the line and

542
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 4: so we do some thorough testing to make.

543
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Speaker 2: Have you ever had to eighty six a stunt like Nope,

544
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,479
Speaker 2: it's we just can't do it.

545
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 1: It's just not safe enough. Have you ever had to

546
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 1: do that?

547
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 4: We have not, you know, And we've actually got close

548
00:24:43,280 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 4: when we had the Playoff stunt where it was a

549
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 4: big swing stunt and the stunt crew had some challenges.

550
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,359
Speaker 4: But because of the testing, we will know whether it

551
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 4: holds up or not. They go back in, they'll tweak

552
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 4: some things, make it work, we'll test it again. And

553
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 4: we got pretty close with the playoff swing that we

554
00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,040
Speaker 4: did just last year where it got pretty late on

555
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 4: on that game was a what was that game this

556
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 4: Saturday or Saturday?

557
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 1: It was a Saturday.

558
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,120
Speaker 4: So yeah, we were here really really late Friday night

559
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 4: into Saturday morning testing and making sure that it was going.

560
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: To hold up.

561
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,399
Speaker 4: But they were ultimately able to pull it off. And

562
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 4: so I'm very thankful for the stunt crew. I put

563
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 4: a lot of faith in them, but they've been here

564
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: since the beginning and they've earned that trust and they

565
00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 4: do a really good job.

566
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Speaker 3: So Toro has been nominated for the Mascot Hall of Fame. Right,

567
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: there is such a thing as the Mascot Hall of Fame,

568
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: and it was established in two thousand and five and

569
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Speaker 3: some of the inductees, just to give you a picture here,

570
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 3: the Philly Fanatic. Hard to imagine the Philly Fanatic not

571
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,959
Speaker 3: being in there, right, the famous chicken formerly known as

572
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 3: the San Diego Chicken.

573
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,200
Speaker 1: Of course, in the Mascot.

574
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, there is a local inductee, and that

575
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,119
Speaker 3: would be Clutch Clutch the Bears already is.

576
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,480
Speaker 1: It's actually two inductees. Now, Okay, what a Houston? What

577
00:25:48,520 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: do you got?

578
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 4: Orbit got inducted last year? That right, Orbit got in

579
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 4: last year last year.

580
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: That's right.

581
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,320
Speaker 3: I forgot about that. Oh boy, Oh the Nitney Lion

582
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,160
Speaker 3: is in from Penn State. I'm just looking around here. Oh,

583
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,119
Speaker 3: the Nitney Lion is in the Why wouldn't the Nitney

584
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:01,679
Speaker 3: line be in?

585
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: Is it the Bill O'Brien version in you?

586
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the Bill O'Brien version. Is there

587
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 3: a Bill O'Brien version? I didn't brutus to Buckeye. Okay, see,

588
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: mister met is in. Smoky from the University of Tennessee. Yeah,

589
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: these are all sports. Andrew would would like Smoky the

590
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 3: Bear be considered a mascot or no, No, Smoky the

591
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 3: Bear is a talking thing that's a publicity psa thing

592
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 3: for forest fires, so that wouldn't count true. So Andrew,

593
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: tell us, what's the process here. How could people help

594
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 3: Toro get into the Mascot Hall of Fame.

595
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 4: We need all the help we can get. So it

596
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 4: is going to go to a public vote. The voting

597
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 4: period is May eleventh through May twenty fourth, and fans

598
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 4: can vote once every twenty four hour period, so it's

599
00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 4: a rolling twenty four hours. If you vote at eight am,

600
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: let's say on Saturday, you won't be able to vote

601
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 4: again until eight am on Sunday. So it's not just

602
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 4: once a day, it's a twenty four rolling, twenty four

603
00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 4: hour rolling clock.

604
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 3: Basically, only real elections worked like this. Oh wait a minute,

605
00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 3: go on, right, But yeah, we want you guys to vote.

606
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 3: You need Texans fans helped to get Toro into the

607
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,880
Speaker 3: Mascot Hall of Fame.

608
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: So every year, like with Andre, they're always like, you know, started.

609
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 2: With fifty, then we get down to fifteen, then we

610
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 2: get down to ten, and eventually get down a five.

611
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 2: How is it for the Mascot Hall of Fame? Are

612
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: there other NFL mascots in there with you?

613
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: Is? Obviously it must be all mascots.

614
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 2: How many of the mascots are in there with Toro

615
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 2: kind of fighting? And how many get selected each year?

616
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. So there's twenty eight mascots

617
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 4: on the ballot. It's a pretty big ballot. This year,

618
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 4: it's the largest ballot they've ever had. I'm not exactly

619
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 4: sure how many mascots or are going to get selected.

620
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 3: I don't think it's too many, because I'm looking at

621
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 3: the list of inductees here since two thousand and five,

622
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 3: and it's not a ton, but it looks like they

623
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: took a long break from like two thousand and eight

624
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,959
Speaker 3: to twenty nineteen to induct mascots.

625
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 4: So so Mascot Hall of Fame actually had a physical

626
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 4: location for about five or six years. It was about

627
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 4: thirty minutes outside of Chicago in a little city called Whiting, Indiana,

628
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,639
Speaker 4: and it has since shut down. So there is not

629
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Speaker 4: a physical location for the Mascot Hall of Fame anymore.

630
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 4: It's just a virtual hall of fame.

631
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 1: That's okay. It is okay. It's still there, it still exists.

632
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: What NFL mascots are in the group in the finalist

633
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: group with Toro.

634
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 4: So there's only two NFL mascots on the ballot this year.

635
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 4: It's Toro and Blitz from the Seattle Seahawks. Got a chance,

636
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 4: No Blitz get out, no chance. Blitz doesn't do anything.

637
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 3: I see a Hall of Fame or in the Mascot

638
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame and it's good.

639
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 1: It's upsetting me. I'm like, I am upset. Who is this?

640
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 3: Jackson de Ville is in the freaking mascot that was

641
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago.

642
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: This is unacceptable. How did Jackson Deville get in over

643
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: freaking Toro? Ridiculous, It's ridiculous.

644
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 4: There's two AFC South guys in the mascot Hall of Fame.

645
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 4: You've got the Indianapolis Colts, Blue Blue, Jackson Diville.

646
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: Oh I see Blue.

647
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: Oh now, I'm okay, all right, we gotta get to

648
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 3: go with.

649
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 1: Blue before Jackson.

650
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: To me too, like Blues like Blue is pretty talented man,

651
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: that's stunn He does where he throws the ball from

652
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 2: the like third or fourth floor, puts it into like

653
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: a water bucket, like it's incredible round though, was Blue

654
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 2: of Baltimore cult mascot?

655
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:10,200
Speaker 1: He got that?

656
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 3: I could go with more if Blue was around. Since

657
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 3: you know who's on the ballot this year, though, Sebastian

658
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 3: the Ibis.

659
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 1: I heard this.

660
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: The Ibis is on. Yeah, and that's the University of

661
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 3: and the Ibis. I'm surprised he's not in already. I

662
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 3: just got to tell you. The Ibis is a terrific

663
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 3: should have been in before. The Nitty Lion I think

664
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 3: so too. The ibis is a legendary mascot and the Ibis,

665
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,240
Speaker 3: I mean I did a game with the Ibis got

666
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 3: called for two No One fifteen yard penalty for celebrating

667
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 3: in the mascot.

668
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the Sugar Bowl. Can you imagine doing that here?

669
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 3: The guy would be employed and then somebody else got

670
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 3: a fifteen yard or on the same play. It was

671
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 3: after a touchdown, so Todd Severs had to kick a

672
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 3: fifty yard extra.

673
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: Point and he made it, and he made it.

674
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,800
Speaker 3: It was awesome. It was like, yes, in your face anyway.

675
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: Some of the other ones, the Oriel Bird, Yeah, but

676
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 3: they were in Jazz Bear, the Utah Jazz basketball team,

677
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 3: a Jazz bar is the Phoenix Suns Gorilla in there.

678
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, he was one of the first class.

679
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, the gorilla does like he does good things, all right,

680
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: So the inaugural Class Bear do Philly fanatic, the Gorilla

681
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: and the famous Chicken.

682
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 3: I mean that's good. I mean you have to do.

683
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: That's like the Babe Ruth and whatever.

684
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: Yea, What the hell has mister Mett done other than

685
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: I have a big old baseball He lives in New

686
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 2: York City.

687
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 1: He's like, exactly right, but unique.

688
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, if does stunts, visits to the community, does all

689
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 2: kinds of work in the community.

690
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Speaker 1: Are the sausages in Milwaukee eligible because they have the sausage?

691
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: Are they they're in?

692
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: I think are they in the because Reggie and John

693
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 2: were talking about this on Tuesday Wednesday came remember which

694
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: day was, and they I thought they said that the

695
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: the running Sausages were in.

696
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 3: I think they're making that up. That sounds like a

697
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 3: Lopez fabrication, you know what that does kind of sound

698
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 3: like Lopez Andrew? What is your Do you have a favorite?

699
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: Do you have an iconic mascot that you say that

700
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 3: that's the one for me? Because it's all subjective obviously, Yeah, I.

701
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 4: Mean all the ones you named. I mean whenever I

702
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 4: was entering this business. You know, this is a dream

703
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 4: come true for me. I had watched a lot of

704
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 4: these guys growing up, and so the fanatics one of

705
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,200
Speaker 4: the best, the Famous Chicken. But for me, I grew

706
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 4: up in Kansas City, and so I grew up watching

707
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 4: the chief mascot, Casey Wolf. And the guy who I

708
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 4: grew up watching is still the chief mascot to this day.

709
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 4: He's been doing it for thirty five years and he

710
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 4: still has a ton of energy. He's still doing it

711
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 4: at the highest level possible and really makes a great

712
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 4: impact in the Kansas City community. So I think, to me,

713
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 4: he is He's my goat when it comes to the

714
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 4: mascot world.

715
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: I mean it makes sense. I mean it makes sense.

716
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 2: I mean, if he's been around that long, he's a

717
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: good mask.

718
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:45,959
Speaker 1: I could go with that.

719
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 3: You know, it's strong for Houston though that tore is

720
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 3: definitely gonna get it at some point.

721
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

722
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, And the fact that Orbit and Clutch are already

723
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: in says a lot about Houston. This is not a

724
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 3: big list of mascots that are in the Mascot Hall

725
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 3: of Fame. It points out how awesome we are at this. Yeah,

726
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: with mascots. For sure, it's the Dynamo. What do they have, Diesel?

727
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 3: The Fox Diesel the Fox. Okay, it's a cool mascot,

728
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: but it's not it's not Toro. But so in the

729
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: AFB shots, if Toro gets in, we got three AFC

730
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: South mascots. That says a lot about the AFC South. Now,

731
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 3: t is a t rack for the Titans. I still

732
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 3: no shot. No shot ever. I have yet to.

733
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 2: Figure out how they came up with a damn raccoon

734
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 2: for their mascot.

735
00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I still like I'm Gamy Adams would want it

736
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:33,080
Speaker 3: to be like a mini oil Derek or something. Yeah,

737
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 3: parking back, it's the Titans. They could run out some

738
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 3: rocked up dude. Yeah, like Titans loincloth and like, you know,

739
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: the New thor you know, they could have come up

740
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 3: with something really cool. They came up with the raccoon.

741
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 3: What was the reasons of fame? What would you call

742
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 3: the mountaineer for West Virginia because that's a human? Oh yeah,

743
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 3: the mountaineer guy.

744
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 4: I feel like that would be one of the hardest

745
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 4: jobs when your face is out there, Like for me,

746
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 4: I can hide behind the costume and do whatever I

747
00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 4: want to most people other than you two who's inside

748
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 4: the costume. But when you're out there, it's just it's you.

749
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 4: So I think that'd be a really hard character to portray.

750
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 4: Is the Notre Dame Leprechaun up for it?

751
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 1: I don't know, but the Leprechaun is a pretty good one, right.

752
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: That's a good one if it's If it's not in

753
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: I mean again another one where you see his face

754
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: and I find that, you know, fascinating. I mean I always,

755
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: always I'm enthralled by seeing two mascots getting after it

756
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: on the sidelines with one another.

757
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 1: And I can't remember.

758
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 2: I think it was Arizona and New Mexico were playing,

759
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: I believe, and they got a big fight and one

760
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 2: of the mascots lost his head and it was like

761
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 2: fight was over. He grabbed it and took off like

762
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 2: did not want to be seen as you know, as

763
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: the mascot. The other one that I always think about

764
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 2: Andrew is Cocky from South Carolina. I don't know about this.

765
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: That's the mascot for the The mascot for South Carolina

766
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:57,800
Speaker 2: is named Cocky.

767
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: And at graduation is it like a chicken, you.

768
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: Find out who Cocky was because he or she wears

769
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: the feet of the mascot and you find out, oh

770
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 2: so you like, that's the time when you find out

771
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 2: who the mascot has been for that year, for a

772
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 2: couple of years, because they actually wear the clod feet,

773
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 2: uh to the graduation ceremony.

774
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: That's that's one of the neat ones I think.

775
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 3: So one that jumps out to me when I was

776
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 3: in the Atlantic ten Saint Joe's had the hawk. I

777
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 3: don't know if you know the Yes, Andrews flappers wings.

778
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 3: The hawk will never die. And the hawk flaps as

779
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 3: the hawk is over there in the corner of a

780
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 3: small gym at the time, just flapping the wings like

781
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 3: like non slantingly flapping. And it's because it's shoulder muscles.

782
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 3: The mascot has to keep moving. I get it. But

783
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 3: the but the wings got to keep flating. Yes, the

784
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 3: shoulder muscles.

785
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, Andrew. Last time we had Junior, we

786
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: talked about you've written the book. How's the book been received?

787
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: How how's it been since we talked to you about

788
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 2: the book.

789
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,799
Speaker 4: I mean, it's been awesome, and it's just it's so cool,

790
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 4: and it's still surilled to me because I get pictures

791
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 4: on social media of parents reading that book to their children,

792
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 4: or a principle reading the book to their school, and

793
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 4: so to see something that I had just written, you know,

794
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 4: you open up an empty word document and put these

795
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 4: words on paper. To see it being utilized is really

796
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,440
Speaker 4: really special. But we've also been able to work with

797
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 4: Mattress Firm. We've taken the book on tour, and so

798
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 4: we've been able to go to a mattress from store,

799
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: We've been to some schools, been able to do some

800
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,720
Speaker 4: public readings. We're taking it into elementary schools. Every school

801
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 4: we go to for any of our programs, we're passing

802
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 4: out a book and putting it into the library and

803
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 4: kids are really excited. It's a really fun book to

804
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 4: read in public too, So we'll bring Toro out there

805
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,200
Speaker 4: for these public readings and Toro acts out the book

806
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 4: and so it's been a lot of fun. But it's

807
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 4: still in the Texans team shop. It's online at shop

808
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 4: dot Houston, Texans dot com, available for.

809
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: Sale and voting for the Hall of Fame for Toro.

810
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 3: What is the process?

811
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: Starts May eleventh. Make sure you tune into Toro.

812
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 4: Social media will be putting out links, will be putting

813
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: out daily reminders, but the voting's all on mascot Hall

814
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 4: of Fame.

815
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 3: Dot com, Rock and Roll, Toro, Andrew Johnson, thank you

816
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 3: very much.

817
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much.

818
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 2: Man, anything for that, dude, no doubt about it. Andrew

819
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,359
Speaker 2: Johnson is the absolute best. Okay, we get back. Trude

820
00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: already joins me as we discuss on in the Labor

821
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 2: do not Forget about Me guys that we need to

822
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: be watching very closely to that next the Texans All

823
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: Access All Right, Welcome back to Monday edition of Texans

824
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Speaker 2: All Access from Monday Texas Radio Studio. John Harris, football analyst,

825
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: sideline reporter for your Houston Texans, and one half of

826
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 2: the In the Lab podcast crew, Mamiya Drew Doherty drives

827
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 2: it and does a tremendous job. We had a little

828
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: brain blast thinking about what we were gonna talk about

829
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:26,959
Speaker 2: in the Lab.

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00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,760
Speaker 1: We thought, Hey, what about do not forget about me? Players?

831
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 2: And obviously Ladarius Henderson has been a talking point for

832
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 2: probably about a week now since Nick mentioned him on

833
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 2: I think last Tuesday or Wednesday show as Sean it

834
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 2: seth and that's kind of where we started with this

835
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 2: and took us in a number of different places.

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00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 5: Let's take a listen, let's get into don't you forget

837
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 5: about me? Because I think vandermir Or you came up

838
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 5: with that sort of phrase. As far as players who

839
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 5: are on the roster, typically younger yeah, who have shown

840
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 5: promise but for whatever reason haven't really broken through to

841
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 5: whatever the next level is, whether it's from good to great,

842
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 5: from contributor to starter, from really not contributing to contributing.

843
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 5: So there's lots of parameters here, but basically someone who

844
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 5: has not made a jump. There's a lot of guys

845
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 5: who are candidates for that that are on the roster

846
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 5: right now and driving in this morning on Wednesday, Nice, rainy,

847
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:26,840
Speaker 5: saggy Wednesday.

848
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: It's good for the grand Yeah. Yeah.

849
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 5: I heard the guys talking, and we heard Nick Cassario,

850
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 5: executive vice president, general manager of the Texans, talking with him,

851
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 5: and they brought up a name who was really intriguing

852
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 5: to me last year when the Texans drafted him very

853
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 5: very late, left tackle, Ladarius Henderson.

854
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 6: I don't know that he's gonna play left tackle for the.

855
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 5: Texans, but he was a guy who played elsewhere for

856
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 5: most of his college career and then transferred and started

857
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 5: a lot of games for the then national champion Michigan Wolverines.

858
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 6: Texans drafted him.

859
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 5: Never really got a chance to practice because he was

860
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 5: injured and had some stuff going on, but i'd see

861
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 5: him around the building every once in a while, and

862
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 5: I read a fantastic story about him. I can't remember

863
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 5: who wrote it, but it's at least four or five

864
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 5: years old, and it was in the Athletic and it

865
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,839
Speaker 5: was talking about his time in Waxahatchie, Texas up north here,

866
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: which is just south of Dallas. And he's a fascinating kid, fascinating,

867
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 5: fascinating young man. I shouldn't call him a kid, but

868
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 5: he's somebody that Casario said this morning on the radio,

869
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 5: he's transformed his body. So this could be someone that

870
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 5: could be in the mix for competing at offensive line,

871
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 5: which we all know they've got to play better than

872
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 5: they did in twenty twenty four.

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00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 6: It will be the first to tell you that.

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00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 5: So Ladarius Henderson someone that I've I've seen, someone that

875
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 5: I've just chit chatted with in the hallway from time

876
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 5: to time, and I'm fascinated to see what he can

877
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 5: do in twenty twenty five. Because you don't have any

878
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 5: professional tape on him. Everything you have is from twenty

879
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 5: twenty three. But he's an intriguing player who was a

880
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 5: very important part of that that Wolverine's team that won

881
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 5: it all. And I don't care, man, no matter who

882
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 5: you were, if you were on a national title team,

883
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 5: let's see what you got, you know, Let's see what

884
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 5: you got at the next level. Now, the NFL is

885
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: littered with names who won national titles and then didn't

886
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 5: do anything as pros. It's a different skill set. But

887
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 5: knowing who he is and knowing who he could be,

888
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 5: I'm intrigued, John, What do you think?

889
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 2: So he started his career is on a state and

890
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: then transferred to Michigan and was.

891
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,799
Speaker 6: But he played a lot.

892
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, he played a lot too.

893
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: He played a lot of a lot of football, and

894
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 2: so when he so, when I saw him at Senior Bowl,

895
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: I remember thinking, I don't know, and I don't want to.

896
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 2: I don't want to be that guy that looks at

897
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,959
Speaker 2: a guy that no, that guy can't play.

898
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 5: And to be fair, to be fair, he was a

899
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 5: seventh round pick, So well say that about a round pick.

900
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 5: You know, you're not being too overly judgmental about a

901
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,439
Speaker 5: seventh round pick, say stuff like that.

902
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,560
Speaker 2: But I thought he was really strong Uglyn. When I

903
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,120
Speaker 2: found out he had been hurt, it it made all

904
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 2: the sense in the world. Yeah, because I'm like, man,

905
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 2: the guy that I watched during the season looked look

906
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 2: more comfortable than that, like moved better. So when I

907
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 2: found out, oh yeah, he's hurt and he's gonna essentially

908
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 2: red shirt in twenty twenty four, I thought, this is

909
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:21,439
Speaker 2: the best thing.

910
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 1: I almost feel like if you could do that, if

911
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:26,680
Speaker 1: you could do that.

912
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: For your six and seventh round players in particular, to

913
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 2: give them a year to red shirt, to learn the

914
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 2: NFL way, to work out in the workout hard, rehab

915
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 2: whatever injury you've got. And even you know, in a

916
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 2: case where you know, he just kind of red shirt

917
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: a guy, if he could just red shirt him.

918
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,720
Speaker 1: And bring them along, you know, in a little bit slower,

919
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: but you know.

920
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 2: Maybe they don't practice, or maybe they do practice, but

921
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,760
Speaker 2: you can keep them running. And in some cases NFL

922
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 2: teams will do that with later round picks.

923
00:40:55,280 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: They'll put them on a practice squad and that's kind

924
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: of the way they do it.

925
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 2: But in Ladarius's case, being injured, it's like, okay, essentially

926
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: it's going to be a red shirt year, Like okay,

927
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: get your body right, get rehabbed, so get your body fixed,

928
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 2: then get your body right. And that was one of

929
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 2: the things that stood out. And if you do that,

930
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: I wonder too, And we've talked about this that I

931
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 2: think when when I wrote him up, I remember thinking

932
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,800
Speaker 2: tackle guard. And so I remember, I want to say,

933
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 2: when we talked to Nick, they were thinking about him

934
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 2: as a guard, like that was going to be his

935
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 2: position here. So you get kind of a double whammy

936
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 2: in the sense that you get to rehab your body,

937
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 2: you get to stick around the NFL building, and now

938
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 2: you get to transform your body into maybe a little

939
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 2: bit more of a guard body, or maybe you need

940
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:46,919
Speaker 2: a little bit more upper body strength where you need

941
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: just overall, you know, core strength and all that to

942
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 2: be able to play that position.

943
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: But I think.

944
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 2: Just hearing Nick talk about him and knowing the work

945
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 2: and look the it's very clear that this.

946
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: Building values the values.

947
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: Guys that put in the time, put in the effort

948
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 2: and get in this building and they do it with

949
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:10,720
Speaker 2: the best intentions possible.

950
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: And I think Ladarius has done that.

951
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: So the tricky thing is, Okay, he hasn't taken a snap,

952
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,919
Speaker 2: he hasn't put on a helmet since that Senior Bowl.

953
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 2: So that's gonna be. So that Senior Bowl was January

954
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 2: of twenty four, right, so we're gonna go all the

955
00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 2: way to August of twenty five. So you're talking a year,

956
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: seven months, a lot of time. Year, A little year

957
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 2: and a half, but you haven't, you know, so he's

958
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: gonna have to callous his body to that physicality again.

959
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: And but it's also gonna be intriguing. And here's the

960
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 2: thing too. You said it. If Ladarius doesn't work out,

961
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 2: it's a seventh round pick, right, But if you see something,

962
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 2: even if he turns into a backup offensive lineman, that

963
00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: you know you can rely on that, okay. And Charge

964
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 2: was the same way, and Charlie was a fourth rounder.

965
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 2: You know, Okay, Charlie's got to go in the game

966
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: because Laramie's hurt or Titus has banged up Charlie. Charlie's

967
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 2: gotta go play. And Charlie would hold his own and

968
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,479
Speaker 2: do a really good job. And it really wasn't until

969
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 2: Charlie hurt his foot where it really kind of slowed

970
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: down any kind of progress that he was he was

971
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,320
Speaker 2: making as this team's swing tackle, a very important position.

972
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 2: I think for Ladarius, Man, what if what if all

973
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: of a sudden Ladarius steps in and you're like, man,

974
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 2: he takes over right guard and I mean, that's found

975
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: fifty bucks in your pocket, you know what I mean?

976
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 2: That's that is to me what makes it kind of exciting.

977
00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 2: And I do think of the five offensive line positions

978
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: and it and it's funny because I've been thinking this

979
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: way for a while. When Nick said that about Ladarius Henderson,

980
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, maybe that's the guy I've felt like

981
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 2: all along, there's gonna be an upset somewhere on that

982
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: offensive line that we don't see coming. The Mike Brizell

983
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: of the group that you don't you don't see coming,

984
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 2: and then you're like, WHOA, Mike's really good, gets this

985
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,279
Speaker 2: job done, gets the job done. And so when he

986
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: mentioned Ladarius, that kind of popped up the other name

987
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: that I think about a lot, come.

988
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 5: Out, come out, and it's don't you forget hibout me.

989
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 5: It's not yeah, well we don't have a burning flag

990
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 5: while throwing in the ground saying this is going.

991
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 6: To right, right right, It's like, don't forget about this guy.

992
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: He might do something. Well, here's another one for you,

993
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: and then I have a three pack.

994
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 6: After you've writ your name, I got one for you.

995
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 2: And you should love hearing this because he is a

996
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 2: pony or former pony player.

997
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: That's Jalen Thomas.

998
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:40,400
Speaker 2: And again Jalen played tackle at SMU and I felt

999
00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 2: like guard was his.

1000
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: Best position, maybe even center at that point.

1001
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 2: But you know, he was a guy that I'm trying

1002
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: to remember when he got here, like eight and twenty

1003
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 2: three on it twenty four. I feel like there were

1004
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 2: a couple of days in training camp where I'm watching

1005
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 2: him thinking, man, there's something there. He's thick and stout

1006
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 2: and tough. I think there's something there. And then hurt

1007
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: and it's like, because there was kind of this rash

1008
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 2: of injuries in twenty three, I can't remember if he's

1009
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 2: part of that. I know he was part of it

1010
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: in twenty four, and I feel like he's a guy that, man,

1011
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 2: if you worked with him every day, you know, could

1012
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,680
Speaker 2: he be a guy that gave you something on the

1013
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 2: inside as well. So I feel like that's another guy

1014
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: Jalen Thomas from smu've been with the organization for a

1015
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 2: couple of years now. Don't forget about that guy, because

1016
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 2: I think he's got a little something as well. So

1017
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 2: you throw those two guys in the mix, who knows.

1018
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:29,760
Speaker 2: You start performing with the threes, you do some good things.

1019
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 2: You get in a preseason game, you have a long

1020
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: stretch in the second half, Now a sudden Hey, maybe

1021
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:38,279
Speaker 2: we should get them some reps with the twos, get

1022
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 2: a few more preseason games, and before you know it, man,

1023
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: you're right there on the cusp of one injury away,

1024
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden injury happens and you

1025
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 2: got to step in and that who knows if that

1026
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: could happen. I just always think of Mike Brycell in

1027
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,319
Speaker 2: these situations. He's one of my favorite Texans of all time,

1028
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 2: Biscuit Brizel. He was just such a such a character,

1029
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: but just a really really good guard that nobody thought

1030
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:06,839
Speaker 2: anything about. Everybody, as you said, Drew forgot about him,

1031
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 2: and then this guy ends up being a really a

1032
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: piece of one of the best line, one of the

1033
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: best offensive lines, if not the best offensive line the

1034
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 2: Texans ad.

1035
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: And he was instrumental in that.

1036
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 5: You just brought up Jalen Thomas, and he's one of

1037
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 5: the Jalen's on this team, Jayleen, the one of us

1038
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 5: that were that were drafted a quartet, there's also Jaden.

1039
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 6: And when you said that, I thought, oh, no, John.

1040
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 5: Hasn't been paying attention because we just cut Jalen Thomas

1041
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 5: a week ago. And I was wrong. As I was

1042
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 5: looking at my phone. Yeah, it was a Jayden peevee

1043
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 5: that defensive tab we saw, so pardon me, but I'm uh,

1044
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 5: I was.

1045
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 1: Listen, things happened so fast and furious.

1046
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 5: I was coaching a I was coaching a fifth grade

1047
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 5: baseball game the other night, and the umpire, yeah, he

1048
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 5: was about He comes over to me like middle of

1049
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 5: the game, during the break in between innings, and I

1050
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 5: thought he was gonna tell me something.

1051
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,960
Speaker 6: About like, hey, watch the box here or watch He's like, hey, so,

1052
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 6: what are you guys gonna do about all these Jalens.

1053
00:46:58,640 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 6: I might figure it out?

1054
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: Well, and listen, it's Jalen with an I N, Jalen

1055
00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 2: with an I N Jalen with the een.

1056
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 6: Jalen with an old N and that you were just talking.

1057
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then you got Jalen who is know why

1058
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 2: but eli En and Jalen Petrie.

1059
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 6: Old man and I forget some things. And that's what

1060
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 6: just happened.

1061
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 1: Oh right, It's gonna happen plenty of times. Jalen, Jayden, Jalen, Jalen,

1062
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: Jalen jy Long.

1063
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 2: I mean, it's gonna be all over the place, but

1064
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 2: hopefully we'll figure it out by the time the season

1065
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: starts all right, it's gonna do it for the show.

1066
00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: Appreciate Drew from stopping by Mark of course, you guys.

1067
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 2: As always, Andrew Johnson as Torro is fantastic. We'll see

1068
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: you tomorrowy buddy, and as always, go to Texans