1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to One Bill's Light, the Speedy Gonzalez edition of 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: our daily show One Bills Live, where we cram as 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: much bills into forty five minutes as possible. Coming up today, 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: which quarterback from the twenty eighteen draft class will sign 5 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: his multi year contract extension first and who might benefit 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: most by waiting. NFL Networks James Palmer talks qbs both 7 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: from the eighteen class and this year's class, and we 8 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: have our one burning question. Ut hut at a Steve 9 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: tester who has been all over the fields. Kind of unique. 10 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: He was kind of a dual role players for you, Steve, 11 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: Steve a blimp. We're not even in the stratosphere of normalcy. 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us here on One Bill's Light, 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 1: our podcast express version of our daily Joe one Build 14 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 1: Live but fresh content here. Only Chris Brown here, Steve 15 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: Tasker there, and we've got an interesting situation on our 16 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: hands concerning the quarterback class of twenty eighteen. Steve Baker, Mayfield, 17 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. All of them had 18 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: their fifty year options picked up, Alan and Jackson to 19 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: the tune of twenty three million plus. Mayfield and Darnald 20 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: at eighteen million in change. Allen and Jackson cost more 21 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: because they both made a Pro Bowl within their first 22 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: three years in the league. We've heard here in Buffalo 23 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:37,039 Speaker 1: GM Brandon Bean state that everyone is on the same 24 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: page with respect to a contract extension. Josh wants to 25 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 1: be here, They want him here, and it will be 26 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: completed in due time when the time is right. The 27 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: case likely holds true for Mayfield and Jackson as well 28 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: with the Browns and Ravens respectively. Sam darnold situation as 29 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: different as we know, he's now in Carolina. They got 30 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: to kick the tires, see how he does. YadA, YadA, YadA. 31 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: So when you add it all up, one stephen a tasker, 32 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: which quarterback do you think it's a contract extension done first? 33 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: It's tough. Um. I think I think the first one 34 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,919 Speaker 1: to do it is gonna be Baker Mayfield. I think 35 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: even though he's got some questions about, you know, how 36 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:20,799 Speaker 1: good he's gonna play, he's gonna have another year under 37 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: the belt with maybe a better off season in Stefanski's offense. 38 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 1: I think he may get out of the gate with 39 00:02:26,240 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more oomph compared to where he was 40 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 1: a year ago. Now. His last eight games last year 41 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: fifteen tds to two picks. I mean, he stride it 42 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: out in the second half of last year. He was 43 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: a big difference maker for them. But he's got a 44 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: good team around him, and the Browns are gonna find 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: out whether he can do it. And given the history 46 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: of the Browns and the public pressure, there's there's gonna 47 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: be to make sure they don't go down that list 48 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: of twenty quarterbacks before three more quarterbacks and the Bills did. 49 00:02:56,520 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: There's gonna be immense pressure to get him signed and done, 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: so I think. And plus he was the first guy 51 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: drafted in that class. I think it. And it also 52 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: speaks to the urgency of which one of these clubs 53 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: gets their guy done faster in a market that is 54 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: constantly rising for quarters. Yeah. I took the time to 55 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: look at the cap space that each of these four 56 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: teams would be looking at in twenty twenty two. Mike 57 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 1: Janetio or a good friend at spot track. I checked 58 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: his numbers. Baltimore twenty four million in cap space, Buffalo 59 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: eight million over, Cleveland nine million over, and Carolina forty 60 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: one million in cap space. I think the situation in 61 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: Carolina is too difficult to discern and probably will still 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: be the case even next year. I could see the 63 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: Panthers having Darnold play out his fifth year option and 64 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 1: then decide maybe somewhere in the course of that twenty 65 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: twenty two season, maybe it's four weeks in, maybe it's 66 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: mid season, maybe it's after the fifth season, but I 67 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: think he's last in line. Yeah. Here's another thing as well. 68 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: They don't have to all have it done in the 69 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: next twelve months because in twenty twenty two, Carolina has 70 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: only spent one hundred and fifty million dollars. They've got 71 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: tied up Baltimore one hundred and sixty eight, Buffalo two hundred, 72 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,559 Speaker 1: Cleveland two h three. So Buffalo Cleveland have the most 73 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: committed past this season. Carolina Baltimore don't have any. And 74 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: let's not forget Lamar was Lamar's the MVP. If you're 75 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: gonna go in order of how you know what kind 76 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: of pedigree these guys have in the NFL. Now, Lamar 77 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: leads the bunch. Yeah, and I know you picked Baker 78 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,239 Speaker 1: as first in line. I'm gonna pick Lamar just because 79 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: of the way Baltimore does business. They extend players young 80 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,119 Speaker 1: and early, often in their careers, to get them locked 81 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: up long term sooner rather than later. That's just been 82 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: a modus operandi for them. And I think because Lamar 83 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 1: is a little bit differ from the other three in 84 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: terms of what he does, some people might think the 85 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: negotiation would be more difficult. I think it's easier because 86 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:14,719 Speaker 1: he's an entity unto himself. Yeah, and I think the 87 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: Ravens will say, well, we can't really compare him to 88 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: anybody else. This is what we think the value is. 89 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: And then his representation will say, well, we think this 90 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 1: is what the value is. And they won't be really 91 00:05:25,240 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: doing any comps out there because there aren't any, right 92 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: And I think because of that they'll be able to 93 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 1: find common grounds sooner. And I think it gets done first, 94 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: not only because of that, but because they do have 95 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: some cap space to work with already. They don't have 96 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: to do other business to create the cap space needed 97 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: to get their quarterback side. They have to do some, 98 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,599 Speaker 1: but not as much as Cleveland or Buffalo. We've spoken 99 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: to that one of the key elements to these extensions 100 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: is the length of the contract. Neo Mahomes made a 101 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: big deal when his was a ten year contract. That's 102 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: certainty of cost for the Kansas City Chiefs. Players, on 103 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: the other hand, would love to have short deals because 104 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: then they can sign another big contract. I think this 105 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: might be one time when a club like Baltimore would 106 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:11,920 Speaker 1: sign their franchise quarterback MVP type quarterbacks say if you 107 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: want a three or four year deal, we'll give it 108 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 1: to you. Because you running around even if you're four three, 109 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: taking the pounding you are, and our passing game still 110 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: hasn't taken that next step level. We're not committed to 111 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: you long term, and if you continue to improve, improve improve, 112 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: we can extain you. We can sign you to an 113 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,679 Speaker 1: extension anytime in that four years, but we also don't 114 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: have to at the end of that four years. So 115 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: I think that Lamar Jackson maybe a candidate if the 116 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens aren't sold on either A how long he'll 117 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: last as a running quarterback in this league, and let's 118 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: face it, they don't last yea and two if his passing, 119 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: his passing attack doesn't take enough of a step forward 120 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: then it did last year. They're not tied into this 121 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: guy like an albatross like they were with Joe Flacco's 122 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: contract at the end of his time in Baltimore with 123 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: if he don't history, if he loses effectiveness, they're not 124 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 1: tied in for seventy five million dollars over three years, 125 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: so or even more than that talking about the money 126 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: they're they're making now for me, it works both ways 127 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: with the negotiations. Yes, they can say, well, there's nobody 128 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: like we run an offense. It's all our own in Baltimore. 129 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: We can't really compare to cater to it to you. Right. 130 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: He can say you did that because I'm a unicorn. Yeah, 131 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: there's nobody like me. You got the one. Pay me 132 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: like the one. And then I would respond and say, 133 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: win more than one playoff game in a postseason. And 134 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: he did throw the picks six he did so. And 135 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: here he threw a couple of picks in the Tennessee 136 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 1: game the year before in the playoffs when Tennessee went 137 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: to the AFC title game against the Chiefs. And he 138 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: could also say this, and I wouldn't be and he 139 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 1: could also say this, he is, all right, that's fine, 140 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't like that deal. I'm not going to sign it. 141 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 1: And then where just watch me play and then they'll 142 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: be then the Baltimore Ravens is back in their court. 143 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 1: Now they're gonna have to, let's face it, they did. 144 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 1: They built the whole thing around him. If he goes, 145 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: it all goes Yep, that's a big, big hammer to hold, 146 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: which is why I think they ultimately get it done. 147 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: And I agree with you. I think it's a four 148 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,679 Speaker 1: year deal similar to the one we saw Deshaun Watson 149 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: signed down in Houston, which he wants to get out 150 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: of Houston. But that's a whole different story for a 151 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: different day. Which quarterback Steve gets the most lucrative contract 152 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: in terms of average annual salary. It's for me, It's 153 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:40,079 Speaker 1: got to be. It's gotta be Lamar I think. So 154 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: it's a former MVP. He's gotten you the playoffs every year. 155 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 1: Certainly Josh is gonna be a big number. But Josh 156 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: can't say I was the MVP and he was a 157 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: runner up in the MVP voting, no question about it, 158 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: but he was. He was forty eight votes behind the winner. 159 00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean he wasn't It was a one horse race 160 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: last Yeah. I will say this though, if they don't 161 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 1: sign him before this year starts, it, maybe Josh after 162 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: this season. I think it is going to be Josh. 163 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have the most lucative contract, not 164 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: only because I think, to a man, most believe he's 165 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: got the highest ceiling of the four. I think he's 166 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: gonna stack another year on top of what he did 167 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: last year, and that's just going to catapult him into 168 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: a stratosphere that none of these guys are going to 169 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: be able to touch with back to back seasons like that. 170 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: And I think he's also, if he's playing like that, 171 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: going to drive his team deep into the playoffs again, 172 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: which means Lamar and Baker could be knocked out because 173 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: of what Alan does should they face them, face off 174 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: against each other or what have you. And then he 175 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 1: can go to the Bills and say, I got you 176 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: to two conference title games. None of these other guys 177 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: have done that. MVP be damned. And by the way, 178 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 1: Mahomes is making fifty million, Yeah that's all he has 179 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: to say, um and yeah, he'll hit it out of 180 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: the park more than that. But I think if if 181 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: that happens, we're gonna have to see another season like 182 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,559 Speaker 1: the one we just did, which I think probably will happen. 183 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: The problem that the bills are in a tough spot. Yeah, 184 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: they might go to it. They would have gone to 185 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: him yesterday, a month ago and said, how about this deal, 186 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:25,319 Speaker 1: how about this let's do it done. But the cap 187 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 1: is crushing him. They can't pay that guy like they 188 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: need to pay him in this market. So it's the 189 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: club has to wait, and I think for Josh Allen 190 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: his camp, they're like very willing to wait because, like 191 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 1: we said, the numbers aren't going down. Do you think 192 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: it gets to a point where they may consider a 193 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: mahomes like structure because of what the cap is I'm 194 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: wondering if well, I mean, the Allen camp is in 195 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: no hurry. But at the same time, there's an opportunity 196 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: that you could argue you're also losing money by not 197 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 1: signing now. And can you even open the door to 198 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: a mahomes like structure because of the restrictive cab not 199 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: only this year, but it's still not going to be 200 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: where it's supposed to be next year. That's all up 201 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: to Josh and what he decides if he wants to 202 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: give the team that and you know, and push his 203 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: money down the road even and but it'll be all 204 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: about the guarantees. If I do this, you're gonna guarantee 205 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 1: me this, this, this back in the back end, down 206 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,959 Speaker 1: down the line, and it's going to come back to me. Um, 207 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: that may be part of it, but that's up to 208 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: Josh himself. But that contract of Mahomes is out there, 209 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: and it did make a lot of sense for the 210 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 1: Chiefs to get their cost certainty in line. Yeah, and 211 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna pay him a big, big chunk 212 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: of money in twenty twenty seven, a big balloon payment. Uh. 213 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: So he gets that all pushed out there, but he's 214 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 1: getting it. He hasn't. There's no two ways about it. 215 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: That money's coming to him. So when he signed the deal, 216 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: he knew even though he was locked in for a 217 00:11:56,880 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: decade and the and the quarterback market may go out 218 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: through the roof, it doesn't matter if if he has 219 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: an accident and loses a hand, he still gets the money. 220 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: I mean, he's injury guaranteed, career guaranteed, everything. That money 221 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: that's guaranteed to hims coming to him. So for him, 222 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: that's a great piece of mind. It's a smart move 223 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: on both sides. For me, fifty million bucks a year 224 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: on average, and right now there's no way he's not 225 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: seeing all of it. It may change down the road, 226 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 1: it could change in the year, it could change pretty quickly, 227 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: but right now everybody's happy with that deal. An interesting discussion, 228 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: and it's going to get interesting with each passing month 229 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: as it gets closer and closer to twenty twenty two. 230 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: What the cap looks like for sure, fans in the stands, 231 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: revenue for the league, all of that stuff, they're gonna 232 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: be lining up and who's first in line, who's last 233 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: in line, who's getting the most money. It's going to 234 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: be very compelling stuff time though. Now for our numbers game, 235 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: where we quiz Steve, and in the spirit of the 236 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen quarterback class, we'll be asking you, Steve the 237 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: career stat leaders among the twenty eighteen quarterback class. Okay, 238 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: so here we go. So not counting poor Josh Rosen, 239 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 1: which twenty eighteen draft QB has the most touchdown passes 240 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: of the group. It's not saying it's not Lamar. I 241 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: don't think maybe it was. He had nice year last year. John, 242 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, no, hasn't played more. Now I'll say 243 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. It is not Josh Allen. It is Baker 244 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: Mayfield seventy five touchdown passes in his three years as 245 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 1: a starter. Lamar Jackson is second with sixty eight. Yeah, 246 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: big that he had a huge year. Alan is third 247 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 1: with sixty seven. Darnold in the rear with forty five. 248 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: Most interceptions from the twenty eight teen quarterback class, Steve 249 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: Sam It is not Sam Darnold, It is Baker Mayfield 250 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: again forty three picks Aaron it out down there in Cleveland. 251 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: Darnold is second, thirty nine, Alan third thirty one. Jackson 252 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: with eighteen Right, doesn't throw many because he doesn't throw 253 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 1: a lot, right, Okay, all right, best passer rating of 254 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: the twenty eighteen quarterback class, Stephen A tasker career, right, 255 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: not just the career. Yes, I'm goth Baker. It is 256 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: not Baker, Come on, it is Lamar Jackson. One h 257 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: two point session. I should have figured that the he 258 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: doesn't throw it enough to get a bad ring, right right. 259 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: There's other reasons why, which we'll get into in a second. 260 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: Josh second at ninety point four, Mayfield third eighty nine 261 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: point one. Sam Darnold again pulling up the rear at 262 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: seventy eight point six, no player development in the New 263 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: York Jets organization. Completion percentage best one in the twenty 264 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 1: eighteen quarterback class, Steve, I'm starting to get a field 265 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: for this now. I'm thinking Lamar Jackson and you would 266 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: be correct. Sixty four percent completion percentage. Mayfield second by 267 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:17,280 Speaker 1: a whisker sixty one point nine, Josh sixty one point 268 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: eight career Darnold. Josh is a tenth behind Baker. Yeah, 269 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,720 Speaker 1: Darnald fifty nine point eight. Well, it helps when you 270 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: have complete sixty nine percent of your passes in a year. 271 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 1: Sacked the most, stephen A Sam it is Jarnald that 272 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: is correct, two and a row now ninety eight sacks 273 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: getting the field Josh Allen's second ninety two, Mayfield third, 274 00:15:42,200 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 1: ninety one. Some of these figures, it's amazing how close 275 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: these guys are with some of these statistics. It's fascinating. 276 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: Jackson only sacked sixty eight times, which also helps his 277 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: passer raiding sure, which is why it's as high as 278 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: it is. Yards per attempt, Steve, Among the twenty eighteen 279 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: quarter back class, who is throwing it the deepest the 280 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: most on yards for attempt I gotta say Baker. It 281 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: is not Baker. It is Lamar seven point five. Again, 282 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 1: not a lot of attempts, so when he does throw 283 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: it deep, the number goes up Alan at seven point two, 284 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: Mayfield at seven point one. Really, the numbers are like airtight, 285 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: some of these numbers. It's fascinating. And finally, total wins 286 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: for the twenty eighteen quarterback class, who has the most 287 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: total victories as a starter? Lamar as the most win 288 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 1: It is correct, it is Lamar with thirty, and then 289 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: I would say thirty. He's got yep, I gotta be Josh. 290 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: It is Josh twenty eight, Mayfield twenty three. Mayfield just 291 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: got up over five hundred last year with the season 292 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: they had that. He's now twenty three and twenty two 293 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: as a starter for the Browns. I was doing that 294 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: math in my head and I've darnold thirteen victories in 295 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: three years. That's a rough start career, man, ouch, but 296 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: he's in greener pastors. Now. There you go. It is 297 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: a good numbers game. Thanks for playing along, Steve time 298 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: Now though for our featured guest, it's NFL Networks James Palmer. 299 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: Not only did we ask him about the twenty eighteen 300 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: quarterback class, but we asked him about the twenty twenty 301 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: one quarterback class, most notably Trevor Lawrence, and what we 302 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: can expect after he was assigned to cover the Jaguars draft. 303 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: Here's James. If you paid attention to the NFL Draft, 304 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:38,320 Speaker 1: you saw that James was stationed in Jacksonville as he 305 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: was essentially embedded in North Florida to see how everything 306 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: was going to shake out with the Jacksonville Jaguars. We 307 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,400 Speaker 1: knew what was going to happen in the first round, 308 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: but then the Travis Etn joining his college teammate down there. 309 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: So James, is it true that all your colleagues call 310 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: you Jimmy Palm Trees as a nickname? Is that true? Hey? 311 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: Adam is really guys starting to try to push that 312 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: narratives to be JP with everybody. But Ka has got 313 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: a lot of you know, sway, and all of a sudden, 314 00:18:09,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: I've gotten this reputation as mister Palm Trees. But I'd 315 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: like to say that is mostly because I've been taking 316 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: these Florida assignments because I'm a giver. I mean, I 317 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: was down in camp right for all of training camp, 318 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: that's thirty seven days straight in an airbnb during COVID 319 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: last year about by myself, tested every day away from 320 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: my family. That's extreme sacrifice. And she's going about this 321 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: like I'm, you know, some sort of guy on a 322 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,680 Speaker 1: beach everything. Yeah, I think she was trying to combine 323 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: your Florida assignments with your last name, you know, so 324 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, yeah that again at the end, there's worst 325 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: things to be called. I'll tell you that, don't mind. 326 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: It's had an unbarding football yesterday when I hosted for 327 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: the three hours and you guys know about three hour 328 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: shows it we had an over under it like fourteen 329 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 1: and we clabbered the over I mean we were just 330 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: was an every two seconds. Well, you were down there 331 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 1: in Jacksonville and you watched the draft. Everybody knew it 332 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: was gonna be Trevor Lawrence. What's the atmosphere like in Jacksonville. 333 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,159 Speaker 1: Certainly they've it's got to feel like, all right, you 334 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: know the bottom was last year. We are on our 335 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,040 Speaker 1: way up, and here's what it looks like. Now. What 336 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: does that say? Yeah it is. It's been a remarkable, 337 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 1: you know, transformation over the last couple of months, and 338 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: I had a chance to talk to you mentioned Betted. 339 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: I was there all week and talked to herban Meyer 340 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: multiple times, shod Con the owner multiple times, and you know, 341 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: talking to Sean, you got a sense that, you know, 342 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: he really didn't undersell this at all, with getting Urban Meyer, 343 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 1: with where they were with a number one pick in 344 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, a quarterback prospect, it doesn't come around very often, right. 345 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: The last one that most people compare him too is 346 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck, you know, about a decade ago, and everybody 347 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: I talked to you, by the way, also kind of 348 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,120 Speaker 1: puts Luck just a little ahead of Trevor Lawrence around 349 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 1: the league in terms of coming out as a prospect. 350 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: We'll see how Trevor plays. But Sean didn't downplay any 351 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: of this, like he's like, this is an epic week 352 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: for us. This is the biggest really moment outside of 353 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: and we joked his marriage and proposing to his wife 354 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: of his life. That's how much he really thinks of 355 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: this transformation. And a lot of it falls on Trevor Lawrence, 356 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: which you know I talked to Urban at length about 357 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot on his shoulders, right, Josh has a 358 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: lot on his shoulders in Buffalo. This is maybe even 359 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: more than that. I mean, this is an organization that's 360 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: never one. You know, since they become in a franchise, 361 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 1: they've lost more games than anybody. And his space is 362 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,640 Speaker 1: going to be on every billboard. He is the savior 363 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: and that was a big part Urban told me of 364 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: their evaluation process of him. If he can mentally handle 365 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: all of this pressure, and they believe he can, and 366 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: then Urban's the other side of it. And I talked 367 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: to a couple of veterans throughout the week that we're 368 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: there working out, and they're like, man, the vibe is 369 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: just completely different. You know. It's yeah, it's no longer 370 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: finding out who our quarterback is going to be on Saturday, 371 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: which DJ Shark joked to me about, or you know, 372 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: I've caught balls from six different quarterbacks and I'm in 373 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 1: my third NFL season, Like this is something that shouldn't 374 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: go on. But the mentality of winning that Urban's trying 375 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,879 Speaker 1: to bring there is really what you could see you 376 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: foremost over anything, right. I mean, the reputation is, you know, unquestioned. 377 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: I'm not going to debate that for a second. I mean, 378 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,360 Speaker 1: he comes in and he's well known, in that part 379 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:21,119 Speaker 1: of the country from his Florida days, so you know 380 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: where he won a couple of national titles. Oh by 381 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: the way, so obviously there's huge name cache built in 382 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: respect and benefit of the doubt because of that resume. 383 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: Do you think that urban Meyer is entering the pro 384 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 1: ranks at the right time as more and more we 385 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: are seeing in the NFL game resemble the college game. 386 00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: Is the timing good here? For Urban timing is perfect, 387 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: and not just when he's coming in, it's the situation 388 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: that he's coming into. I don't think you could come 389 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 1: into a better situation. Sean Kan actually joked with me, 390 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: is like, I didn't realize how good this job opening 391 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: was till I started getting phone calls from people around 392 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: the league being interested in this job. You look at it, 393 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:05,920 Speaker 1: You have the number one pick with the quarterback. We 394 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: all knew they were going to take in such a 395 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 1: generational talent. The cap space that they had was through 396 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 1: the roof. And then the other part of it is 397 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: they really weren't a one in fifteen roster. If you 398 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 1: go back and watch their games, a lot of them 399 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: were mismanaged at the end of the end of the 400 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,320 Speaker 1: game or one score games they lost. I mean this roster, honestly, 401 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: like those receivers. I was talking to Jokeer like we 402 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: could have won like eight games. So everything kind of 403 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: lines up to be in a very very good situation 404 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: for urban Meyer. And I think the way he's put 405 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 1: his staff together also kind of goes with what you're asking, right, 406 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: because he's got a guy like Daryl Bello come in 407 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,120 Speaker 1: who's worked with Russell Wilson at the beginning of his career. 408 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: Perfect choice for an offensive coordinator to come in and 409 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: work with Trevor Lawrence. He got Russ right where he 410 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: needed to be so early in his career. But then 411 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,919 Speaker 1: you still have like Charlie Strong and those ties to 412 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 1: the college game. And you mentioned the perfect time think 413 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 1: about this. This was an offseason where we had no combine, 414 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: we had no visits. Knowledge about college prospects was thin. 415 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: Who has more knowledge about college prospects than urban Meyer 416 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,639 Speaker 1: and probably the guys who had connection on his staff. 417 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: I mean, Anthony Schlegel comes in as their strength and 418 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: conditioning guy. He's been with Ohio State for the last 419 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 1: seven years. You don't think that fraternity of strength and 420 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: conditioning coaches in the college game that he has the 421 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: rolodex to flip through. Are going to shoot him straight 422 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: about prospects in a time when everybody's searching for information. 423 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 1: So I think this was the perfect transition in a 424 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: draft with so many questions involving prospects. Well, we here 425 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: in Buffalo have been down the road of searching for 426 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: a quarterback and they've obviously found their guy. And Josh 427 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: Alleney came out of the twenty eighteen draft along with 428 00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: four other guys. You've got Lamar Jackson already been an MVP, 429 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: Josh who was runner up in the MVP last year, 430 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: and Sam Darnold who's in a new refurbished Carolina Panthers organization, 431 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: and Baker Mayfield, who got the Cleveland Browns to the playoffs. 432 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 1: Four guys who seemed, with the exception of Darnolds, seemed 433 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: to have found their level where their team is right now. 434 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: Of these four guys, I mean, I'm you know, they 435 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: got their options picked up. Who signed their deal first? 436 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: And what do you think those deals will look like? Well, 437 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 1: we're not talking Josh Rosen, not today. Okay, today, we 438 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: can do a segment on John. We can do a 439 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,640 Speaker 1: segment of Josh next time, I'm on, sure, let's go through. 440 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: Let's go through the guys, and this is just kind 441 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 1: of putting together what makes sense. Right, Let's go with 442 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 1: the first one, and that's the guy in Buffalo and 443 00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen. I mean, you would say there's the fewest 444 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: amount of question marks surrounding Josh Allen in what you 445 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,360 Speaker 1: need answered if you're one paying the bill of what's 446 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: probably going to be the next forty million dollars a 447 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: year quarterback, right, because you've seen the progression, you've seen 448 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: the patients, you've seen the growth, and it's the style 449 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: of quarterback play with no questions on the durability. Really yes, 450 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: the size the arm. You've seen the completion percentage go 451 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 1: up every year and then catapult in year three. You're 452 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: seeing a natural aggression of becoming one of the best 453 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,640 Speaker 1: players in all of football. Fewer question marks. I would 454 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: assume Deal has a greater chance of getting done sooner. 455 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:05,600 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Let's go to the next, probably best player 456 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: out of that group. Well, he plays the position a 457 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: little bit differently, and there's still the thought of can 458 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: you be a runner and can you be a thrower. Well, 459 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: he's proven that you can be and you can complete 460 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: a lot of passes doing it, but he does it 461 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,240 Speaker 1: a little bit differently, and so I think that gives 462 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: you a little bit more of a hesitation. I think 463 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: a deal gets done for sure. I just think maybe 464 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 1: that's probably the one that happens next with Baker. I 465 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: just think they want to see what happens in this 466 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: next twenty twenty one season, because really what you're banking 467 00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 1: on is those last eight games kind of right in 468 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:40,439 Speaker 1: Kevin Stefanski's system, where he through fifteen touchdowns to two picks. 469 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,400 Speaker 1: You're seeing him get comfortable in a system that's designed 470 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: for him. I would think the Hasms would like to 471 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: see another year of that. But from my understanding is 472 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,400 Speaker 1: they think an extensions happening in ownership believes in extensions happening. 473 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: When that happens, that's kind of up in the air. 474 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: He has a greater chance of maybe being after this 475 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: year as opposed to this potential actually this offseason. And 476 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: then Sam Donald obviously has a lot to prove. If 477 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: you go and look at what Caroline and Denver did 478 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: with back to back picks there, they both had a 479 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 1: shot at justin fields. Both liked him, to my understanding, 480 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: a lot, but both of them passed. It's not because 481 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 1: Sam Donald's great. I think they're leaving their options open 482 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 1: as well as there could be some quarterbacks in the 483 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 1: next year available, so I think his spot is a 484 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: little bit up in the air. And then again we'll 485 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: get to Josh next show. So yeah, Josh Rosen Right, 486 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: with respect to Josh Baker and Lamar James, what we 487 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: have here is a market that we know is only 488 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 1: going up with each big quarterback deal that happens. Do 489 00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,000 Speaker 1: you think that any one of those clubs would feel 490 00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,239 Speaker 1: compelled to be the first to get a guy to 491 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,000 Speaker 1: sign on the dotted line so as not to be 492 00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: on the back end of an escalating market. And that's 493 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: the cat and mouse game right of this, Because I mean, 494 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 1: if you're the Bill, you probably have the best of 495 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: the bunch. Even though he doesn't have an MVP, I 496 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,359 Speaker 1: think we all can probably agree if you look at 497 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: the trajectory of the next decade, you probably have the 498 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 1: best of the group, and so probably Judge's representations going, well, 499 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: we want the biggest out of all of this. Then, 500 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: but at all three of them are looking at the 501 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: Cowboys situation that recently went down, right, and getting it 502 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: pushed down the road is something the Cowboys should have 503 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: never done and showed the rest of the league and 504 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: what ended up happening with Dak Prescott. So I do 505 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: think getting a deal done sooner is probably more advantageous 506 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: for the clubs and then the players are seeing what 507 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 1: happened with Dak Prescott. Obviously nobody wants to go tag 508 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: tag tag whatever it went down, But at the same time, 509 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: I do think you have to be in a situation 510 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: to where you go we have the best player out 511 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: of the group, we have a guy that is a 512 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,240 Speaker 1: generational talent that's going to be there. The number does 513 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: keep going up. The Mahome situation as an outlier, that 514 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: contract is something we're probably not going to see from 515 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: any of these other on But yeah, getting something done 516 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: sooner is probably better for the club and trying to 517 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: wait just a little bit to see if you can 518 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: get a gauge and where things are with the other 519 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: two is probably what the agents are doing. Taking that 520 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: a step further though, James, you know you mentioned the 521 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: Mahomes deal and it is unique. There is no question 522 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:20,920 Speaker 1: about that. Hearing GMS in the league including Brandon being 523 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: here already talking about not having a whole lot of 524 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: confidence in the cap even getting to where it was 525 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:33,919 Speaker 1: last year in twenty twenty two. Might that at least 526 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: make the gms in this league maybe try to just 527 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: broach the subject of a deal being structured that way 528 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: because of where the cap is going to be in 529 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. I mean, I'm sure everybody feels by 530 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three the new media deals kick in and 531 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: the cap gets back to where they're used to seeing 532 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: it with the increases they're used to seeing as well, 533 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 1: But in twenty twenty two, it's not it's sounding like 534 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: that's going to be the case. I mean, we have 535 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: GM saying we may not even get to two hundred, 536 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, for twenty twenty two. So how much does 537 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: that open the door for gms to at least propose 538 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 1: to these quarterbacks agents, Hey, can we at least discuss 539 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: getting unique or creative much the way the Chiefs did. Yeah, 540 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: those conversations are all happening, but the way it goes 541 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: back and forth is and also you know, some of 542 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: those are gonna well, let's go longer so we can 543 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: push some of the majority of your money, and we're 544 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: gonna give you guarantees we want you to be our 545 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: quarterback to when we have a larger portion of a 546 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: salary cap to give you. The number is higher because 547 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 1: you're mentioning what's happened in the next two years, and 548 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 1: that's accurate. But at the same time, what all these players, 549 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: a lot of them outside of Patrick mahomes our fighting 550 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: is I want a new opportunity for a contract around 551 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 1: the age of thirty, not on the wrong side of thirty, right, 552 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 1: And most of these guys, I think Josh is going 553 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: to be twenty five and May. How do I know that? 554 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: I think that's right? Yeah, birthdays tomorrow? Yeah, is it tomorrow? 555 00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: It's right around here, it's late May. Yeah. Yeah. We're 556 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: supersensitive to this kind of stuff here, I think, yeah, 557 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: I'm waiting for him to send me a text about 558 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: the actual day of his birthday. And how do you 559 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: know that? It's But like all these guys are like, 560 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 1: you know that twenty five range, They're gonna want a 561 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: chance for another pay because you know, if you look 562 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: at where they all stand, they all know the money's 563 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: going up, they all know the new deals are kicking in. Well, 564 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 1: the thought process usually at the position is I want 565 00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: another deal at thirty and not the wrong side of 566 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: thirty so I can get another big contract as opposed 567 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: to what Patrick Mahomes did. So that's the back and forth, 568 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: because you're right, some of these teams want to go 569 00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: a little bit longer, but some of these players do 570 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: want to go shorter so they can get paid again 571 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: because the market might be entirely different. When you're locked 572 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: into one of these deals long term and you start 573 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: seeing people pass you that you know you're better than, 574 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: that's kind of something that irritates a lot of players. Yeah, 575 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: and the creativity behind the Chiefs deal with Pat Mahomes, 576 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: it's unprecedented, really, but it is. It's a ten year 577 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 1: deal and it does average fifty million a year within 578 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of incentive, a lot of guarantees 579 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: in it, but he doesn't really receive too much money 580 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: until the back end of the deal. At least five 581 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: years into this deal or six years into this deal 582 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: he gets some sixty million dollar balloon payment in twenty 583 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 1: twenty seven. That's a long way out, but he does 584 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: get a ton of money guaranteed. How creative, you know, 585 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: do you see these teams being particularly when they can 586 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: go to the players and legitimately say, listen, the pandemic 587 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: crushed us. You got to help us here and depend 588 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: I guess it depends on every guy individually how receptive 589 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: they are to that. But I think all four of 590 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: these deals could be lucrative for all four of these quarterbacks, 591 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: but they all could look really different. Yeah, and that's 592 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: the thing that's changed with the Mahomes deal is the 593 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 1: last question I was kind of answering in sense of 594 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: that was the structure, right, and that's what most guys wanted, 595 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: and that's how it usually go. And you were seeing 596 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,240 Speaker 1: deals just going like all right, like let's break this down, 597 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: and the Adam Schefters and Ian Rappaports are telling all 598 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: of us that you know, well, this has two million 599 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: more guarantees and you know this. It just you just 600 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: beat each guy just by a little as the deals 601 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,479 Speaker 1: get done. But now there's another avenues to explore. If 602 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: you remember when Russell Wilson was going through his negotiations, 603 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: he was trying to get a percentage of the salary cap, 604 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: which is an avenue nobody wanted to go down, but 605 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 1: he wanted to get a percentage of what the cap was. 606 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 1: No team really wanted to do that. But the point 607 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: is that deal and the discussions that went on there, 608 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: and him forcing the Seahawks and to the Mahomes deal, 609 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: to everything. The thought process is more outside the box 610 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 1: now than it was in the past, and I think 611 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 1: because of the pandemic, everybody is getting more creative. Because 612 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: of even those deals that happened before the pandemic, things 613 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: are not entirely in the same structure that I described earlier. 614 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: So you're right, they could be entirely different because they 615 00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: also are different players, in different types of organizations, in 616 00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: different playing style. So yeah, I do think they could 617 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 1: be different. And that's going to be the interesting part 618 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: if agents want to play off what they know from 619 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: the other one, because they might be structuring something different 620 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: than what you guys are working on and from a 621 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: completely different part of the quarterback landscape. The Miami heralds 622 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: Armando Sailgero, longtime cover beat reporter columnists for the Dolphins. 623 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: We had him on our show last week, James talking 624 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: about how tricky the offense was going to be for 625 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: two of this year with co offensive coordinators in George 626 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,280 Speaker 1: Godzi and Eric Studiesville and even Charlie Fry, the quarterbacks coach, 627 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: was going to have some input and that just seemed 628 00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: like a schmozzle to me and not a good delineation 629 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:40,640 Speaker 1: of duties for a quarterback. And then he writes in 630 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: his column today, after talking to some players at OTA's, 631 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: like Miles Gaskin is telling him the playbooks completely new, 632 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: when the plan was to keep the majority of the 633 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: playbook intact from the retired again chan Gaily to help 634 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: Tah And now he's getting a much different message from players. 635 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: How gobbled and garbled can this get for two of 636 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: going forward here? Not that anybody in Buffalo is concerned, 637 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 1: but for TWA's sake that that doesn't sound like an 638 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: easy row to hoe there, No, it doesn't, and it 639 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: was easy. It wasn't easy to digest a lot of 640 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: those words either. We were all over the map and 641 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: a lot of words I didn't think i'd hear today, 642 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: But I love it. You're right, and I actually I 643 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,600 Speaker 1: know Are. I know George pretty well and I've spent 644 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: time with both of them, and it was going to 645 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,759 Speaker 1: be an interesting setup, right, And that was going to 646 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 1: be something we were all going to keep our eye on, 647 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: but as little change as possible for young quarterbacks is 648 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: usually what you're shooting for, right, And it was weird 649 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: talking at length on NFL Network the other day about 650 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, who lights the world on fire in his 651 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: rookie season, and now he's going to learn an entirely 652 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,919 Speaker 1: new offense with Joe Lombardi coming in the Saint system 653 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: this offseason, and now we're going to see what he 654 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: can do in year two, which is something you probably 655 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:55,600 Speaker 1: don't want to do when a guy plays really, really 656 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: well well, something else don't really want to do when 657 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,359 Speaker 1: you have questions about the guy either, right, I mean, 658 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: that's what you're doing. You're almost creating, in my opinion, 659 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: more questions about what your evaluation is of Tua. When 660 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: this goes on, then you're creating answers. The same thing 661 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,239 Speaker 1: has happened to Drew Locke in Denver where I'm sitting 662 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,439 Speaker 1: right now. The guys had a different offensive coordinator every 663 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 1: year of college and the NFL except leading into this year. 664 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:21,879 Speaker 1: That's the first time he has been in the same 665 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 1: OC twice in a row. Well, it doesn't make life 666 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,000 Speaker 1: very easy on a quarterback. Specifically when they're young in 667 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 1: the NFL, when you keep changing things for them, sometimes 668 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: you have to. And obviously in Miami they did, in 669 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: Denver they did in those years. But it makes your 670 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 1: evaluation of the player more complex because at the same 671 00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,719 Speaker 1: time we're hearing there's reports from my buddy Albert Breer 672 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: of like they could land to Shaun Watson and so 673 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 1: all right, well then what is my aunt what is 674 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,840 Speaker 1: Houston seeing out of Tua. It's hard for them to 675 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: evaluate him as well, right So, I think it just 676 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 1: it does cloudy it a little bit and what you 677 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: have in the player when things keep changing on him. 678 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: And I think with those comments, it's gonna make you go, 679 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: all right, well, let's see what two it can do, 680 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 1: because this doesn't seem entirely, you know, very easy for 681 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: him right now. Last one for me, James, is it's 682 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: about the NFL. It evolves all the time. They change 683 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 1: the rules. Every year, it evolves, it becomes better, the 684 00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: fans love it even more. They two week it to 685 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: give the fans more of what they want less of 686 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: what they don't want. And this year they're they're putting 687 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: in a seventeenth game. I see it as A as 688 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: a stepping stone. I think they'll go to eighteen games eventually. 689 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: I think it'll be an eighteen game regular season, a 690 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: two season, two game preseason, and away they'll go. What 691 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: do you think the biggest ripple effect will be from 692 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,359 Speaker 1: A it's a little bit of a seismic shift. I mean, 693 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: it's been sixteen games for a long long time. What 694 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: do you think the ripple effects will be with the 695 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: extended schedule? I think the first one that jumps out 696 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: of me is it's it's actually a little bit easier 697 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: to make the schedule in terms of who gets what games, 698 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: and because now you have more games that are kind 699 00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,200 Speaker 1: of your wildcard games that you can throw to other 700 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,080 Speaker 1: broadcast teams. Right, and so when that seventeenth game was 701 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: added in this in this last last scheduling, you know 702 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: reports of the league office we're like, well then you say, 703 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: say Fox doesn't get this game, and well then we 704 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:16,960 Speaker 1: can give CBS this game, and we can move this 705 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 1: and now you can move some games and get some 706 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 1: matchups right now in this season is to me super 707 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,959 Speaker 1: super interesting. If there was no seventeen game schedule this year, 708 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,280 Speaker 1: were we weren't gonna get Patrick Mahomes versus Aaron Rodgers, 709 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,879 Speaker 1: which we assume Aaron Rodgers will be in Green Bay, 710 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: but that game is not on the schedule. That was 711 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,520 Speaker 1: the added game for the chiefs of the sixteen AFC 712 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: teams that get an added home game, they got the 713 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,759 Speaker 1: Packers added, So we are getting some matchups that we 714 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't have had as a bonus. But then when we 715 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 1: go to eighteen, obviously things level out a little bit more. 716 00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,120 Speaker 1: But at the same time, you're gonna have more opportunities 717 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,919 Speaker 1: for national audiences to see the best players in the game. 718 00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: And I think that is a really good moments. James 719 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 1: is always thanks for the time. We appreciate you weighing 720 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: in on the quarterback conversation. It's gonna be something we're 721 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 1: all gonna have our eyes peeled on for sure. Who's 722 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:09,760 Speaker 1: first in line, who's getting what it's It's really compelling 723 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:13,520 Speaker 1: with these twenty eighteen quarterbacks. Thanks very much. I snuck 724 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: in Aaron Rodgers. Did you know we got every conversation 725 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,000 Speaker 1: I have asked to mention it. Well, we figured you'd 726 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: be tired of that, so we've decided to go in 727 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: a completely different direction one point five. So you're still 728 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,719 Speaker 1: under Thanks James. All Right, Steve, we wrap up this 729 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: edition of One Bill's Light with our one burning question, 730 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: which of these twenty eighteen quarterbacks takes the biggest step 731 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:43,279 Speaker 1: with their game in twenty twenty one? Josh took a 732 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,799 Speaker 1: giant step last year, as we know who takes the 733 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: biggest step in twenty twenty one. I think Sam Darnold 734 00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:53,799 Speaker 1: greener passers, a fresh offense, a fresh environment of fresh teammates. 735 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 1: I think with the way Baker has, I think we 736 00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 1: know who Baker Mayfield is. I don't know. I don't 737 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: know what if Josh took a step similar to the 738 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: one he took this last year, I don't know what 739 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,040 Speaker 1: that looks like. It's something we've never seen, right, I 740 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:14,399 Speaker 1: don't know what that looks It's probably a sixty touchdown yards. 741 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 1: Lamar has already been an MVP. How big a step 742 00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 1: does he take now? Certainly he may look different, and 743 00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: maybe his statistics will change. If he starts to thret 744 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 1: and he throws for three thousand or four thousand yards 745 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,880 Speaker 1: and only runs for six hundred, or what if his 746 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: game transforms, which I don't think it will, because he's 747 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:34,480 Speaker 1: going to be a runner. You know then maybe I 748 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,600 Speaker 1: could see Lamar don it. But Sam Darnold, I think 749 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 1: is the guy that you and I and we've sat here, 750 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: we got a lot of respect for him. We think 751 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: he I think he played. There's a good quarterback in there, 752 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,560 Speaker 1: and it has been covered up by the garbage that 753 00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: he was dumped in in New York, and so I 754 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,959 Speaker 1: think now that he's in Carolina, maybe they'll let him 755 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: be the quarterback that you know he was destined to be. 756 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,440 Speaker 1: We all thought he was destined to be when he 757 00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,280 Speaker 1: was drafted so highly. Yeah, I would tend to agree 758 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 1: to a certain extent. I think Joe Brady, the OC 759 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: in Carolina, is a good fit for Sam. I think 760 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,400 Speaker 1: he's got a much better support system there than he 761 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: ever had in New York. I think New York should 762 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: have probably held onto him, but they didn't. So now 763 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 1: he's in Carolina and he's probably better for it. Quite frankly, 764 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: but I think Baker Mainfield is going to take the 765 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,319 Speaker 1: biggest leap of this group because for the first time 766 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 1: in his pro career, he's in the same offensive system, 767 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: and as you pointed out, he started to kind of 768 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: catch fire second half of the year fifteen touchdowns two 769 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,920 Speaker 1: picks down the stretch, was playing more consistent football, and 770 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:40,600 Speaker 1: so with the team he has around him, I think 771 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: he could take the biggest leap of the bunch this 772 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: year in comparison to their numbers from last year. I 773 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 1: think we can, though, state for the record, that all 774 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: four of them are in very advantageous situations for growth 775 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: of their respective games. And that's a good thing for 776 00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,439 Speaker 1: the league as a whole when you think about it, right, 777 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:06,120 Speaker 1: I agree, having those guys played, play well, and you know, 778 00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: kind of be intertwined, and certainly here in Buffalo, I mean, 779 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: we're never gonna forget Baker Mayfield, Sam Darnold being taken 780 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: ahead of Josh and him falling to us, and him 781 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 1: Josh going being the most polarizing figure for a minute, 782 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:21,359 Speaker 1: he's the most polarizing figure in NFL. Yeah, right, in 783 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,719 Speaker 1: that ten and six year where he was, we were 784 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: riding that Josh roller coaster in the Sugar High Josh 785 00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,919 Speaker 1: and all that, and then having him come out like this. 786 00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 1: But like I said, I think Josh is we haven't 787 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 1: reached his ceiling. I don't think you and I either 788 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 1: one believe that. No, But like I said, how much 789 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:43,720 Speaker 1: ceiling is left. How it's pretty damn good right now. Yeah. 790 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know how much higher you can go, 791 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,120 Speaker 1: and even if even if it is higher, it's not 792 00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: that much higher. Yeah. I just think he's the ultimate 793 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: weapon right now in the NFL. He can outrun so 794 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:58,640 Speaker 1: many guys. He's big and physical enough. He's keeping his 795 00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: eyes down the field. Some of the games he had 796 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,840 Speaker 1: last year, you go back and you just forget the 797 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: small things. He was impossible to get off the field 798 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 1: at times. He'd throwing lasers out there. He's got Steph 799 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: Digs and Cole Beasley and Gabe David. Somebody's always open 800 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,040 Speaker 1: and no matter where they are, he's darting it. Yeah. 801 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: Or if he's if they are covered, he's first down Buffalo. 802 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,319 Speaker 1: I mean he just runs off then in the red zone. 803 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: Forget it as threatening. Yeah, I agree with you. That's 804 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: a good it's a good call about Baker Mayfield. Plus, 805 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: they've got a roster there, They've built a team. Their 806 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: defense is gonna help him. They're gonna win a lot 807 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: of games one score games where you know, maybe their 808 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: offense wouldn't play good enough or has an off day. 809 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: I think they've got a total the total package roster 810 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,680 Speaker 1: and talent wise. So Baker's a really good call on 811 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 1: having a step up year. But I think Darnold, I 812 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: just think there's more. The floor is lower, the step 813 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,719 Speaker 1: will be bigger, even if the ceiling when he gets 814 00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: to that step isn't as high as maybe what these 815 00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 1: other three guys were talking about. It not to ut 816 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,759 Speaker 1: for Sam Darneld a little bit, right. I mean we 817 00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: all knew what he was, the situation he was in, 818 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 1: and so now it's like it's like the clouds have parted. 819 00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't want the sun is shining. I don't want 820 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: to overstate it because it's it's a more now and 821 00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 1: make an analogy to something that's more serious than football. 822 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: It's like, he was the guy that was wrongfully convicted. Yeah, 823 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: and they proved he was innocent. We don't say the 824 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,360 Speaker 1: Jets don't select you. We hereby sentence you to the Jets. 825 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:31,360 Speaker 1: It's like he's like, oh my gosh, he didn't do 826 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: that crime. Turn the guy loose, right, Yeah, that's Kinny 827 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: still gott to curb the turnovers because that was a 828 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:41,520 Speaker 1: problem at USC too, not just with the Jets. But 829 00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 1: I that's just decision making. That's coaching. That is nothing 830 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 1: but coach development system and player development and teaching a 831 00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,040 Speaker 1: guy how to think and see it you can do. 832 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,760 Speaker 1: Coaches do that. Coaches do that. I got the feeling 833 00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 1: the last year with Adam Gaze. He came in and 834 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 1: felt like Sam was already a player, you know what 835 00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,080 Speaker 1: I mean, and he treated him like a guy who's 836 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: gonna know things that Sam hadn't been taught yet. I 837 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,800 Speaker 1: still maintain that Adam Gaze is a schemer, not a coach. 838 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 1: He's a play caller. Schemer, yeah, No, schemer, he's not 839 00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,919 Speaker 1: a coach. Yeah. And that's the difference between a guy 840 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: like him and a guy like Brian Dable, a guy 841 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 1: that cultivates relationships. Not only can scheme, but can build 842 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:28,360 Speaker 1: a rapport with a player, build a bond with a player, 843 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: and build the resume and repertoire of a player and 844 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 1: expand his game. And I think, more importantly than anything, 845 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 1: the thing it always gets lost in leadership with coach 846 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,960 Speaker 1: at like Sean McDermott and his whole culture he's building 847 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: Dable and the way he thrives in it and these 848 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,839 Speaker 1: guys thrive in it is the coach truly on a 849 00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:52,320 Speaker 1: deep level, understands the player. And when you understand the player, 850 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,200 Speaker 1: you know what he needs. And that's what coaches do. 851 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:58,400 Speaker 1: They know what their players need. They give him what 852 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: they need and then let him and then turn them loose. 853 00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,080 Speaker 1: And and some coaches don't get to that point with 854 00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,960 Speaker 1: their players. Good conversation on QBS Today. That'll do it 855 00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 1: for this edition of One Bill's Line. Don't forget to 856 00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,280 Speaker 1: subscribe so you know when the next episode drops. And remember, 857 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: and there isn't enough time for One Bills Live. There 858 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: is always enough time for One Bill's Like for Steve Tasker, 859 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: I'm Chris Brown. We'll catch you next time. Everybody