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Speaker 2: Practice number three in the Books for your Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 2: as they congregate near Midfield to shut this one down.

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Speaker 2: Looks like Cam Heyward in the middle of there kind

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Speaker 2: of given thee the closed down practice speech today. One

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Speaker 2: of the veterans in there, I'm sure telling Vermond and everybody, hey,

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Speaker 2: we're all on the same team here, all right. Things

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Speaker 2: are gonna get a little chippy. It's practice. You know,

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Speaker 2: it's physical, it's football. But let's all remember we're in

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Speaker 2: this together. But number upset and again like we like

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Speaker 2: we made to mention it was not you know, it

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Speaker 2: was not it you'll see all over social media.

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Speaker 3: Fight It was mild.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know if I would call it a skirmish.

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Speaker 3: Gloves didn't come off the penalty dogs.

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Speaker 2: Exactly right, exactly right, just a little you know, it's hot,

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Speaker 2: it's summertime, and uh yeah, now, Matt, just one more acclamation.

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Speaker 3: Good practice. That was a long hot, that was long.

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Speaker 2: Was active than we've seen. We saw a lot of

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Speaker 2: ones on one different in different areas, a lot of

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Speaker 2: special teams work as well.

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Speaker 3: There were some mistakes, there were some drops, and you know,

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Speaker 3: you mentioned the snap and things like that. That happens,

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Speaker 3: you know, but interceptions are also a good thing for

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Speaker 3: one side and bad for the other, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I, you know, I think that there's even in

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Speaker 2: those mistakes, if you will, whatever you want to call them,

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Speaker 2: there's good in that because that's what they're here for.

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Speaker 2: They're here to teach, they're here to you know, it's

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Speaker 2: it's not all going to be perfect. It's they want

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Speaker 2: to have those moments that they can highlight on the

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Speaker 2: on the board and say here's what went's wrong, Here's

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Speaker 2: how we correct it, Here's what you need to do differently,

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Speaker 2: here's what you did well. That's all part of this process.

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Speaker 3: And as we talked about yesterday, and we probably will

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Speaker 3: for all these practices since we're on from two to

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Speaker 3: five the the practice. It's not over yet, you know,

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Speaker 3: like everyone's in their position groups. Now we're having a

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Speaker 3: little chat, you know, the position coaches, and then a

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Speaker 3: lot of these guys aren't just gonna run up to

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Speaker 3: the up the locker room or anything like that, but

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Speaker 3: they're gonna be out here for a while. So also

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Speaker 3: have no idea when we'll get Calvin Anderson too, like

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Speaker 3: as Spencer Anderson, Spencer, okay, get those super big.

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Speaker 2: Stuff Calvin Austin Spencer Anderson.

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Speaker 3: Well, it was also a Calvin Anderson, right, right, but

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Speaker 3: the O lines all muddled up together listening to the

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Speaker 3: O line coach, and you know he may do something

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Speaker 3: for a while after he calls from the field. I

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Speaker 3: don't know when we'll.

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Speaker 2: Get that, yeah, but yeah, but we are anticipating Spencer

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Speaker 2: Anderson at some point. Our very talented producer, Justin is

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Speaker 2: back at the ranch. He's got the call screener up,

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Speaker 2: so whenever that happens, he will be ready. First too,

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Speaker 2: on the jugs today, Matt oh, Jayalen Ramsey, and John Newsmith. Okay,

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Speaker 2: first two on the jugs down there is John who

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Speaker 2: is kind of standing still working on like almost you

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Speaker 2: know outside of his catch radius one. Yeah, he's back

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Speaker 2: into his body, whereas Jalen Ramsey is like he's attacking

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Speaker 2: like jan Thornhill's standing by waiting to get his get

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Speaker 2: the other position groups still together the wire.

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Speaker 3: See, Ramsey really has a routine. If you watch him totally,

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Speaker 3: it's he's breaking on the ball like on a forty

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Speaker 2: Entire career seven million.

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Speaker 3: And now he's coming straight forward, you know, like downhill, Like,

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Speaker 3: I bet that's his routine. You know it.

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Speaker 2: I think he's still down there. He's got his jersey off,

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Speaker 2: offensive lineman, Isaac Sayamalu out there in street clothes talking

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Speaker 2: to some of the guys. Aaron Rodgers looks like he's

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Speaker 2: working with Will Howard here right now. I wonder what

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Speaker 2: they're about to do. Looks like they're going over some

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Speaker 2: Oh you know what I think he's doing. I think

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Speaker 3: Looks like he kind of got hit, like in the midsection.

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Speaker 2: Or yeah, just maybe one of those wind knocked out

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Speaker 2: As trying to figure out who that is is that

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Speaker 2: do think that that is that that is DK Metcalf

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Speaker 2: But I'm not positive. It's the Great Bob Labriola bringing

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Speaker 2: me in my daily Turner's tea. If I've got kidney

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Speaker 2: stones after camp, I know who to play. These things

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Speaker 2: are delicious and refreshing. That's you know, it's a hot

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Speaker 2: practice out here, matt You gotta stay hydrated.

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Speaker 3: It is. We've had it tough. Almost broke the sweat.

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Speaker 2: Almost broke the sweat, walking walking, walking up the stairs

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Speaker 2: on the jug some things moving and shaking. It looks

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Speaker 2: like Mason Rudolph is working with with Calvin Austin. I

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Speaker 2: in front of us, Matthew, on another hot day number three,

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Speaker 2: And you know now it's like, hey, you're staring down

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Speaker 3: And I liked how tomlinstructured it this year. That helped

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Speaker 3: with my vacation as well. But they as a day

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Speaker 3: later than a lot of the teams, get all the

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Speaker 3: acclamation stuff and then day off and then it's like

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Speaker 3: a clear line of demarcation, delineation, whatever is the right

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Speaker 3: word to say. There come back, and I bet Tuesday,

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Speaker 3: Monday will be off. I bet Tuesday is gonna be

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Speaker 3: roaring right, like one of the best practices here.

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Speaker 2: You know, it'll be backs on backers, It'll be a

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Speaker 3: Like I bet Cam Hayward dresses and you know there

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Speaker 3: might not be as many guys anyone sitting, you know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, And now that doesn't mean that Cam Hayward

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Speaker 2: is going to be a full participant, but yes, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: that'll be an all hands on deck type. I'll be

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Speaker 2: interesting to see if tjoping that. I'll be interesting to

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Speaker 2: see if TJ does any backs on backers reps, Like

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Speaker 2: you know, you're gonna see Caleb like Caleb Johnson is

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Speaker 3: And yeah, I was sitting here thinking like who's who's

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Speaker 2: I would think you start high Smith in Caleb Johnson. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I say with baby with Faltano, I mean he's not

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Speaker 2: You know, that would be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: That would be a good one.

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Speaker 2: That would be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: But I think Caleb Johnson might be one of the

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Speaker 3: talk about Ardie Burns gets gets drafted in the first round.

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Speaker 3: Man Tomlin had him garden ab all the time. He

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Speaker 3: first round er. You know, you go go deal with

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Speaker 3: the best guy again as in these settings, right right,

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Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, you're gonna lose a lot, okay, you

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Speaker 3: know if you if your confidence gets shattered that quickly,

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Speaker 3: or you're not the right guy, right right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, And we saw a lot of that the

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Speaker 2: last two years between Joey Porter Junior and George Pickens,

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Speaker 2: those two going at it constantly. I mean, that's that's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, when we start getting into one on ones, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure it'd be I doubt metcalf Ever does not get

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Speaker 3: Sleigh Porter or Ramsey, you know what I mean. It's

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Speaker 3: weird to give three to pick from. It's like that's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I I completely completely agree with you on that one.

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Speaker 2: As looks like, if I'm if I'm correct, I think

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Speaker 3: Is that him? I thought so dress talking about.

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Speaker 2: Without without the jersey on, But again when they take

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Speaker 2: I Mean some of them, like say Malo is easy

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Speaker 2: like Zach Fraser is doing some extra snap work here

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Speaker 2: after those two seven shots the past two days, pat

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Speaker 2: Freyermouth catching some passes from Aaron Rodgers now as well too.

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Speaker 2: This is there's almost like more to keep your eyes

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's hard because on too, like it's hard

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Speaker 3: to tell who exactly everybody is and why they're doing

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Speaker 3: it and what they're doing. And there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: I think more today, Well there was none yesterday, but.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, So yeah, Tuesday pads go on and that'll be

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Speaker 2: a physical, heavy day, and I would imagine Wednesday as

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Speaker 2: little bit of woe and we'll talk about that more.

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Speaker 2: But now joining us on the phone line, Steelers offensive

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Speaker 2: lineman Spencer Anderson after practice number three. Spencer, thank you

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Speaker 2: for taking the time. How you doing, tan't complain?

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Speaker 4: How are you appreciate you for having me?

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Speaker 3: Fantastic man? Thank you.

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Speaker 2: We are doing well. We're actually up here in the

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Speaker 2: take that. We don't want to keep you too long,

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Speaker 2: but just back at camp here for you. You know,

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, absolutely, Hey Spencer, thank you so much for sharing

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Speaker 2: Thank you too, Spencer Anderson there good stuff.

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Speaker 3: They're all steps, but they're all other step forward.

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Speaker 3: Out, the some kids getting autographs of corpse, kids getting

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Speaker 2: Plugging away on the jugs right now. So plenty going

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Speaker 2: on here. Thanks to Macaia from Steelers pr for setting

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Speaker 2: Steal practice number three in the books. The final remnants

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Speaker 2: It's Jalen Warren, That's who it is. It's Jalen Warren. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: But I got to tell you my my autograph story.

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Speaker 2: like sprawled out with my arms in front of the

434
00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,600
Speaker 2: all six all six Lombardi trophies, you know. And at

435
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,160
Speaker 2: you know, at that point in my life, like most

436
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,880
Speaker 2: of the guys that I really like, the Troy Paul Malu's,

437
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,000
Speaker 2: the you know, the Joey Porters, the Debos, all those

438
00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 2: guys were defensive players. But Santonio Holmes was my dude,

439
00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:55,720
Speaker 2: Like really I loved Santonio Holmes. So my one kind

440
00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,480
Speaker 2: of quest was, like I would love to get the

441
00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 2: Santonio Holmes to to sign something for me. You know

442
00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:02,520
Speaker 2: what I mean. And so I had that had that

443
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,560
Speaker 2: jersey and that jersey had a terrible towel, had a sharpie.

444
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:07,119
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna get

445
00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,720
Speaker 2: an autograph before we get out of here. The whole

446
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,720
Speaker 2: day we're running around autographs everything, all of that. Finally

447
00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,879
Speaker 2: we go up the stairs of Autograph Hill by the

448
00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:18,639
Speaker 2: cafeteria and I'm standing there and Santonio Holmes is up

449
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,480
Speaker 2: there and I've got my jersey and I'm like, tone, Tone,

450
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 2: you signed this for me? And he comes over and

451
00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:27,359
Speaker 2: he's like, no problem, nice, signs it for me. Jeff

452
00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,119
Speaker 2: Reed is standing right there as well, too, and Jeff

453
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,000
Speaker 2: is like, hey, you want me to sign it as well?

454
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 2: And I was like, can you sign my terrible towel?

455
00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 2: That's great because like in my Antonio Holmes jersey, Like

456
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,040
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be rude to Jeff Reid, but

457
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:42,280
Speaker 2: like I just want Santonio's signifre.

458
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,639
Speaker 3: Right, I don't want a million on his jersey. It

459
00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 3: could be.

460
00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,280
Speaker 2: Like I wanted to get this one and then I

461
00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,400
Speaker 2: don't think I ever wore the jersey again type thing,

462
00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:51,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Like I don't have it

463
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,000
Speaker 2: framed or anything, but like it's still in my closet

464
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 2: and doesn't get touched because it's you know, an autograph

465
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,960
Speaker 2: Santonio Holmes Jersey and but I have the terrible towel

466
00:20:59,040 --> 00:20:59,880
Speaker 2: signed by Jeff Reed.

467
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: Well too, Okay, I got a similar one and we

468
00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,399
Speaker 3: can go around the league or whatever. But yeah, yeah,

469
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,440
Speaker 3: you'll really appreciate this. NHL All Star Game is in Pittsburgh.

470
00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 2: Heck yeah.

471
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 3: So my buddy and I two days in a row,

472
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,840
Speaker 3: found out the hotel all the non Penguins are staying in.

473
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,320
Speaker 3: You know, like Lem You's not there, sure, but you

474
00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,440
Speaker 3: know because he's at home, right. So I was huge

475
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,359
Speaker 3: at the wherever it was. We just hung out in

476
00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 3: the lobby and inevitably all stars would come strolling by

477
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 3: and whatever. And we got a million autographs. I mean

478
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 3: I got Gretzky's wife and Gretzky's dad. I mean, like, oh,

479
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 3: you're Wayne. Gretzky's dad signed this, you know, we had

480
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 3: we had. I have the program still and there's probably

481
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 3: fifty autographs. Gordy Howe was there, you know, like sure,

482
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,480
Speaker 3: it's an event and they're pretty much all stay in

483
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,119
Speaker 3: the same place. And there wasn't a lot of people

484
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 3: in the lobby, so we had a great hit rate.

485
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 3: So I played a ton of streets.

486
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 2: You were younger too, Oh yeah, we were. They're not

487
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:55,560
Speaker 2: gonna tell They're not gonna tell you.

488
00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 3: No, we were high school, you know, right, Yeah, and

489
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 3: we played a ton of street hockey back then. And

490
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,440
Speaker 3: I move well, and I'm big. I was going to

491
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:03,120
Speaker 3: stay at home defenseman all day long.

492
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 2: You were Samuelson pretty much.

493
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was shell. I was more of a shell

494
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,160
Speaker 3: Samuelson and it didn't move even as well as Wolfie

495
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 3: Long and you know, getting away block shots. But anyway,

496
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 3: one of my favorite players, and by far my favorite

497
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,439
Speaker 3: pen was Ray Bork. He was an awesome player at

498
00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 3: the time. And Bork whatever when we saw him, was

499
00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:24,919
Speaker 3: not signing for anybody.

500
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: I don't know who.

501
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 3: I think is kind of only mind. I had a

502
00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 3: Ray Bork All Star jersey that I wore that day

503
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 3: and ran over to me and signs just mine in

504
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 3: front of everyone. Everyone's looking at me like, oh man,

505
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,920
Speaker 3: still have it somewhere. It's probably like a medium close

506
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 3: to fitting me.

507
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 2: But that's pretty cool though. One of the best defensemen

508
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: in hockey history.

509
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 3: But still two days of that was incredible.

510
00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 2: You know you're probably ya walks by.

511
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 3: I mean I remember we walked with Rick Tockett when

512
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 3: he was a flyer, and he was like, he was

513
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,680
Speaker 3: asking about Marios and we're like, he lives in the

514
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:06,359
Speaker 3: South Hills. He wanted to go to ball salon. He's like,

515
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 3: where's Mario's Mario's place or whatever. And I remember like

516
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 3: walking the streets with him and he was kind of

517
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 3: pointing him where it does go. It's not here. I'm like, no,

518
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 3: lives in the South Hills. That's a long walk.

519
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,959
Speaker 2: I real real quick too. Is again we're we're you know,

520
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:26,640
Speaker 2: we're having some funnier yeah. Be you know Lemu used

521
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 2: to have his his celebrity charity golf Classic every year

522
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 2: in South Point. I somehow through a hockey camp, I

523
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: was a volunteer. I got to be a volunteer for that.

524
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: Oh cool at you know, twelve thirteen, fourteen years old

525
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: something in that range.

526
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: Awesome just being around those guys.

527
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan and Charles Barker. Wow, I remember that and

528
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 2: Larry Bird and Olympians. Big team to Jordan was there

529
00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 2: every year for like four or five.

530
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 3: Straight years, right right, boy, I do remember that.

531
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 2: I had a little autographed book. I still have it.

532
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 2: It's got everybody in there except for Michael Jordan. He

533
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: was like the only one you could never get. Yeah,

534
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,880
Speaker 2: But like I got Charles Barkley and I got all

535
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:03,560
Speaker 2: these you know, I think like a couple of different

536
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: boxers and some base you know, like I don't know,

537
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: like Greg Maddox or Kurt Shilling or one of those guys.

538
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 2: You know, so little.

539
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,719
Speaker 3: Autograph you need to be a big time celebrity even

540
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,679
Speaker 3: get invited. To even get invited, you weren't like the

541
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 3: third picture in a rotation.

542
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 2: Oh no, you were Arlins. You were like one of

543
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: the best athletes in the world or like a notable

544
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 2: you know, celebrity host, TV personality something time.

545
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you've recognized everyone there.

546
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: Yes, I do remember that, Yes, one hundred percent. And

547
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 2: it used to be a huge summertime event in Pittsburgh

548
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:34,040
Speaker 2: as a Will Howard meeting with the media down there. Now,

549
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: let's go around the league here a little bit because

550
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 2: and you said this to me before break, and I

551
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 2: was like, that's a great idea, Like we should, you know,

552
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,639
Speaker 2: go around the league here once a day or so

553
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 2: especially with the bonus hour that we have here on

554
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 2: this training camp edition of The Drive. Joe Mixon is

555
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 2: now in doubt for Week one for the Houston Texans.

556
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:52,920
Speaker 3: With a foot injury.

557
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 2: That's not good news for a what feels like somewhat

558
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 2: of a crossroad seasons for them. Yeah, guy, and they

559
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: went to the playoffs again last year. Like it's not

560
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: like they took some massive step back. But I don't

561
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,440
Speaker 2: think they took off last year like people expected that.

562
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,960
Speaker 3: No, especially offensively. I mean, they they ran the ball

563
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 3: pretty poorly. They revamped their entire offensive line this offseason,

564
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 3: a lot of protection problems, offensive coordinator change, but mixing

565
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 3: as much as just about any back in the league

566
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: last year was a true workhorse, like old school eighties

567
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 3: out there all the time. So that room is not

568
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:33,160
Speaker 3: real deep, I mean, and I think that's really.

569
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: It's a big question mark hoping and praying.

570
00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean, as Steeler fans saw, that was

571
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 3: a really really nasty injury.

572
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: And he's not twenty three any no.

573
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,520
Speaker 3: And he doesn't help in the passing game even on

574
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 3: his best day. But he sat out there in the

575
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 3: open market for a long time. They did use like

576
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 3: a fifth or sixth round pick on a back. But

577
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 3: they want to run the ball and they were not

578
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 3: good at it last year. It was this is a

579
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 3: major deal for them. It sounds like the clip I

580
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 3: saw was extended amount of time. Yeah, that's bad news

581
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 3: in late July.

582
00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 2: It's that's bad news in late July. And you know,

583
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 2: especially again for an offense with the still relatively young

584
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,880
Speaker 2: quarterback that's kind of trying to figure everything out.

585
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 3: And with the young quarterback, I know, it's his third

586
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,640
Speaker 3: year and he's very advanced. Stroud better of a back

587
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: that's really solid in protection, like Mixing, you know, mixing

588
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: is not what he used to be when he was

589
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 3: at the Bengals. He's a well rounded run He's been

590
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 3: around the block. You played a lot of snaps in

591
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,000
Speaker 3: this league.

592
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 2: Right, Speaking of young quarterbacks, one that everybody across the

593
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: NFL is going to I mean, there's a lot to

594
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,159
Speaker 2: be fair that everybody across the NFL is going to

595
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 2: have their eyes on this year in terms of young quarterbacks, Jackson,

596
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 2: dart sad Or Sanders, a lot of different guys, but

597
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: cam Ward probably at the top of that list. The

598
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 2: first few overall pick and losing a weapon as trailing

599
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,200
Speaker 2: Burks fractures his collarbone.

600
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 3: Oh that's rough, this poor guy.

601
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: Well, I don't have a lot on that offense.

602
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 3: They don't. And his career just has not gone well

603
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 3: at all since using the first round pick on him.

604
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: And all those you know, Deebo, Samuel Komps when he

605
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 2: was coming.

606
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I mean he was in the twenties. I

607
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 3: think rookie year was kind of a wash. His second

608
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 3: year not any better, kind of a make it or

609
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 3: break it year already, and in fact he broke it. Yeah,

610
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 3: I mean, and all of a sudden, he's probably I

611
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: think they drafted two receivers in the mid rounds. They're

612
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: already ahead of him on the depth chart. Ridley's there.

613
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:24,199
Speaker 3: It's not the best receiver room in the world, as

614
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 3: you mentioned, but his career, this league's rough man. All

615
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you might not be hearing his name

616
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: a year or two from now. He's just you know,

617
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,720
Speaker 3: he's the point now where he's just fighting to keep

618
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 3: on a roster.

619
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: Yes, and that is you know, just a couple of

620
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: years ago he was drafted in the first round. He

621
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,400
Speaker 2: was one of those, he was another one of those

622
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 2: kind of when we were at the Combine that year.

623
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 2: He was a big talking point.

624
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,160
Speaker 3: Oh absolutely in his hands, big strong.

625
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 2: Strong, fast, physicalself.

626
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: Any favors either. I mean he got the Titans training

627
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: camp more than reportedly. I mean, everyone pretty much knows

628
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 3: he was out of shape, Like he had a hard

629
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 3: time practice in the entire time, and like, man, you

630
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,640
Speaker 3: wonder what's going on in your your noodle there. Yeah,

631
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 3: the Titans have missed on a lot of first round picks.

632
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, yeah, which is how you end up

633
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: being bad last year doing that.

634
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: Yeah he could, but that's bad.

635
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah right, Yeah.

636
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 3: You did not hear from him much.

637
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 2: No, And he was he was a guy that I

638
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: that I thought was going to be a very solid

639
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,359
Speaker 2: player in the National Football League. But like you said,

640
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 2: this this league is tough.

641
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 3: Man, Like, oh, they're not forgiving at all.

642
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: You can have all the talent in the world, but

643
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 2: you just might not have a body that is that

644
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 2: is longed for it.

645
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, and I'm not suggesting it's going the same way

646
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 3: for Roman Wilson, but the fact that his rookie year

647
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 3: was already a wash. If if by chance, and I

648
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 3: hope it doesn't happen, if he gets hurt tomorrow, you

649
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 3: don't forget about that guy real quick, you know, just

650
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 3: like the world just moves spins without you, and there's

651
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Speaker 3: always you can find receivers, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, absolutely, especially at that position, right right. Uh A

653
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: name that we are familiar with formerly of this parish,

654
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Speaker 2: Mike Hilton. He is now off the free agent market.

655
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 2: He signs with the Miami Dolphins. Mike Hilton and Minka

656
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 2: down there in the secondary. You think he's got much

657
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: left in the tank?

658
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Speaker 3: Uh, not a ton. Even though he went to the Bengals.

659
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: I think people around here will definitely remember him fondly.

660
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Speaker 2: I mean he even in his first year or two

661
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Speaker 2: at the Bengals, he was.

662
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Speaker 3: And he's a good Bengals player too. This past year

663
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 3: they struggled slots, especially the small ones. Not like a Ramsey.

664
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Speaker 3: They still last as long in that league. I mean,

665
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Speaker 3: the fact that he's still going and getting a pay

666
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Speaker 3: chill is well while kicked his coverage because they take

667
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Speaker 3: a beating. I mean slot receivers and slot corners. They

668
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 3: don't just get gently pushed out of bounds on an

669
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Speaker 3: out route. They get hit hard and they tackle Derrick

670
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 3: Henry and people run at you and you're the smallest

671
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 3: guy in the field and you're really close to the

672
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Speaker 3: line of scribbage. And he's a bulldog for lasting as

673
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Speaker 3: long as he did. But it goes back to the

674
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Speaker 3: Ramsey Menka trade when that trade happened. Before that trade happened,

675
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Speaker 3: when they had Ramsey, I thought they had a bottom

676
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Speaker 3: five or six cornerback room. They're counting on Already Burns

677
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Speaker 3: with Ramsey, right, and then when they traded him, I'm like,

678
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,719
Speaker 3: this is maybe the worst position group of any position

679
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Speaker 3: in the whole league. And Burns got hurt. And if

680
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Speaker 3: you're count of Already Burns, I mean you got bigger

681
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 3: problems again with at this point in his career, you know.

682
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Speaker 3: So they're very very weak there. I just think they're

683
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Speaker 3: just rowing a bunch of stuff in a fan and

684
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: hope it sticks. But their corner room is bad. Mink

685
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Speaker 3: is really their only defensive back of note.

686
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Speaker 2: No, absolutely yeah, and he cool, Yeah, you do you

687
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Speaker 2: the There's a famous meme that you see a lot.

688
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Speaker 2: It's the last episode of the TV show The Fresh

689
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Speaker 2: Prince of bel Air with Will Smith, and it's like

690
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Speaker 2: one of the last like everyone moves out of the house.

691
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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, okay, and the end of

692
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: it is like it's just Will Smith standing in the

693
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Speaker 2: living room by himself with like no furniture nothing. People

694
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Speaker 2: people use that as a meme a lot.

695
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Speaker 3: That's like what do we got here?

696
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: Everything?

697
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Speaker 3: Jr? Where you know, I'm not used to this man right.

698
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Speaker 2: Last one here, and I mean, who knows, maybe we'll

699
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: come up with a couple more, but that I wanted

700
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: to run by you for sure. Shimer Stewart in the Bengals,

701
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: finally agreeing to what time? I mean, yeah, your first

702
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 2: round pick and your best defensive player. Warn't it? Mini camp?

703
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: Warn't it? Two? Well, I guess Sanders was there and

704
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: wasn't practicing and then left right at one point Trey

705
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 2: Hendrickson still holding out. I mean they needed to get Heck.

706
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure what's going to happen with that one.

707
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 2: Because you should have had Matt like this is so

708
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 2: simple and this is something that the Steelers do so well.

709
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 2: You should have had Trey Hendrickson, the veteran, the guy

710
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,040
Speaker 2: who's led the league of NFL sax million times, mentoring

711
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 2: your edge rusher twelfth overall pick to be the next guy. Instead,

712
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: neither of them have.

713
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 3: Been there not, both of them saying I hate this organization.

714
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: I don't want to be what what's going on? Can't

715
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: you get me paid, especially the first round pick, because

716
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: there's not that much negotiation to do. I mean, you

717
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 3: give me a little more than the guy who got

718
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 3: picked behind me in a little I mean, they're slotted.

719
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: There's not even negotiation on the money. I might it's

720
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 3: something about the language. But and he's also a super

721
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: row prospect too, so in the end, okay, he only

722
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: we won't talk about this will be three anymore or

723
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 3: a good thing that finally got done.

724
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 2: Three years from now. He's a good player.

725
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 3: We'll never bring it up again, you know. Okay, he

726
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 3: missed OTA's in mini camp and some acclamation stuff. Fine,

727
00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 3: but it's about time it got done. But it's a

728
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 3: bad look for the Bengals, to be honest, and your

729
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 3: defense is so young and it was so bad last year.

730
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 3: It's just not a good message to send to the team.

731
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: And along those lines, I think now all the second

732
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,760
Speaker 3: round picks are signed. But that just happened like a

733
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 3: couple of days ago. Too. There's been some weird rookie

734
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,880
Speaker 3: contract stuff that hasn't happened the last couple of years.

735
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm I'm with you on that one here as well.

736
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: And like you said, back in the JaMarcus Russell days,

737
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Speaker 2: when those guys could both.

738
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 3: Out right, now, it's like you're getting this.

739
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: It's all CBA's right. It's rookie scale based on where you're.

740
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 3: Picked exactly exactly. So I know there's some language about

741
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: some guaranteed money or injury clauses and things like that,

742
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 3: but that shouldn't take months and months. I mean, this

743
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: happened in April. You were crafted, all right.

744
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 2: Uh Matt to close down on the other side, you're

745
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 2: ready for this. We're gonna we're gonna bring this full circle.

746
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

747
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 2: Nfl dot Com just did the top ten off ball

748
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 2: linebackers entering the twenty twenty five NFL season, not.

749
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Speaker 3: The Golden Age linebackers. Back to our Peyton Wilson conversation,

750
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Speaker 3: it's a bad group.

751
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Speaker 2: Like you were talking about how it's so hard on

752
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: young guys. Yeah, there's a lot of veteran names on

753
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 2: this list that have been around for a long I bet,

754
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: I bet, And so let's we'll take a look at

755
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Speaker 2: that little around a little bit as we.

756
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Speaker 3: Get out of your easiest list for a Peyton Wilson

757
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 3: or a young guy to rise up till.

758
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Speaker 2: The next year you've got your seventh on the list

759
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Speaker 2: or something like that.

760
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Speaker 3: Sure Zach Bond wasn't even considered on there, and he's

761
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Speaker 3: got to be like top.

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Speaker 2: Three, correct, and it has got himself a nice, nice

763
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Speaker 2: pay grade to to go with it. H putting a

764
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Speaker 2: bow on things when we return on the other side,

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Speaker 2: Day three of Training Camp Train easy for me to

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Speaker 2: I still have two more hours of radio to do

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Speaker 2: with our buddy, I guess you do with our buddy

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Speaker 2: Tom Opferman. After this, I better get my mind right,

770
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Speaker 2: I better get my mouth right here as we'll wrap

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Speaker 2: things up on the other side after another day of

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Speaker 2: practice here at Saint Vincent College. It's the special edition

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Speaker 2: Final segment here of the drive as we close down

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Speaker 2: this day number three of practice for your Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 2: at Saint Vincent College of Course in beautiful sunny Latrobe, Pennsylvania.

784
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: Dealt with a little weather earlier this morning, but all clear,

785
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: all warm blue skies, sunshine for practice number three. It

786
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 2: was a hot one. It was their longest and I

787
00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 2: think Matt and I both agree most intense. Yeah, this

788
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: of this camp session.

789
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 3: So far got little heated.

790
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 2: Yep, got a little heated at times literally and figuratively.

791
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: And tomorrow the last of the acclamation practices before the

792
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: boys have off Monday, and then things really start to

793
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: get interesting next week. Yeah, pads going on Friday night,

794
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: lights a lot of different fun things here on the horizon.

795
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 2: But before we get out of here today, I love

796
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 2: it when a plan comes together. Is that the a

797
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 2: team team? Yep, love it when a plan comes together.

798
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 2: And we had had some conversation about Peyton Wilson and

799
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 2: how we're both very high on him and particularly what

800
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: we saw.

801
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 3: Last year and how very promising a lot.

802
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: Of times in this league. That is one of the

803
00:35:54,920 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: I think most underdiscussed tough positions to come into the

804
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 2: league as a young guy at that off ball line

805
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 2: backer spot with your head spinning in the way that

806
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 2: these as you mentioned, the Shanahans and the Bays, all

807
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 2: the Aaron rodgers Is of the world can kind of

808
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 2: mess with your head and have you spinning. So with that,

809
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: I saw NFL Network here top ten linebackers off ball

810
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 2: off ball entering this season. Okay, and there's a lot

811
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Speaker 2: of veterans with seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven years of

812
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: experience on this list.

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00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: And again it's not it's the opposite of the Golden

814
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 3: Age of linebackers. There's not Ham Lambert Erlacker singletary.

815
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: You know, like it's a it's a far cry from

816
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 2: when we went from the like the Ray Lewis h

817
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 2: James Ferrier era to Keekley and Willis. And you know,

818
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,720
Speaker 2: you used to be a lot of Bobby Wagner.

819
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: Now you get out of the top three, it's like

820
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 3: he's got some.

821
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 2: And surprising me, maybe not really Number one on their

822
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: list is Bobby Wagner during his fourteenth year in the

823
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 2: National Football League.

824
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 3: Sorry, it's terrible, it's terrible. I mean maybe he's in

825
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 3: or twelve. He just doesn't.

826
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: He could be a future Hall of Famer, but he's

827
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 2: not the he's.

828
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: I think he's on that list of those players we had.

829
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Speaker 3: If Fred Warner is not number one, he's number two.

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00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 3: Warner's on far and away the best off the ball

831
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 3: line and on a path to be an all time great.

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00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 2: An all time great. Yeah, entering year eight now really

833
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 2: right in the you know, kind of thick of it, super.

834
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 3: Slight broken ankle last year.

835
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 2: He's he's a freak like he is.

836
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 3: I have the greatest react in the world for Wagner,

837
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: and he would get my Hall of Fame vote all

838
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Speaker 3: day long.

839
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: And he's still if this, if this was five years ago,

840
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: right right for conversation.

841
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: But if it's not Warner, it loses a little credibility. Yeah.

842
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 2: Another you know, San Francisco always has guys and former

843
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 2: guys on these off ball lines like back to the

844
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 2: back to Willis and Navarro, Bowman and Fred Warner and

845
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 2: number three on the list Drake Greenlaw. Now the Denver Broncos.

846
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: A little high, A little high too.

847
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a little bit of a free lancer, wild card.

848
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 3: Just he's changed teams a couple of times. Violent though,

849
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 3: and he definitely makes an impact. I mean he's he

850
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 3: shows up in a big way. I like him.

851
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: But that's high and we maybe we can do this.

852
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 2: I'll put this in my notes for another one of

853
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 2: our maybe around tomorrow, around the league conversation. If we're

854
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: we're talking about the Steelers potential to be one of

855
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 2: the best defenses, if not the best defense in the NFL.

856
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: I think you can put the Denver Broncos on that

857
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: short list. There are number one defense looks really good

858
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: on pay They had a guy like green Law too, Yeah,

859
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 2: Lavonte David number four year high. I mean the veterans

860
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 2: a lot of.

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00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 3: Right right right. This is not a lifetime Achievement award.

862
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 3: He's still good. He's exactly cut and paste the same

863
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 3: conversation we had for Wagner.

864
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Speaker 2: Yes, a great number five, Roqwan Smith.

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Speaker 3: He would be two or three for me. Yeah, I

866
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Speaker 3: mean Warners at one and then you start an interesting

867
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 3: Roquan note though. So a lot of national people, a

868
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 3: lot of local people said, well, Queen wasn't as good

869
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 3: without roque One. You know, Queen without Rokuan, Queen with

870
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 3: the Steelers was not as good as he was the

871
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: year before. And I will definitely say that is true,

872
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: because he was awesome his last year in Baltimore and

873
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: that was a high bar. And if Steers would have

874
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 3: got that Queen, wow, I mean you'd be man, he'd

875
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: be on this list. But what no one ever mentions

876
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 3: Roquan wasn't as good without Queen.

877
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you on that, but still he's absolutely

878
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 2: top five, absolutely should be a little bit higher than five.

879
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 3: He would probably be cu for me.

880
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 2: Alex Aand's alone. Number six. Trit Lions year nine too high.

881
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 2: Number seven a guy that you mentioned, best year of

882
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 2: his career by far, Super Bowl champion Zach Bond.

883
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 3: I could see him being that low, but he would

884
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 3: be three behind and war.

885
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 2: Because again, this is an awesome year. This is right now,

886
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: based off what they did last year, this year, you

887
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: have to have some reasons a lifetime achievement. Obviously, Bobby

888
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: Wagner's had a better career than Zach Bond.

889
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: But like and the other thing about Bond is even

890
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 3: when he was a Saint. He was kind of a

891
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 3: edge player on the on the line of scrimmage player,

892
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 3: So he's made a position change when the Eagles got

893
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 3: him for dirt cheap and then they made him like

894
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,440
Speaker 3: one of the highest paid linebackers in the league because

895
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 3: he found a home and they realized what they had there.

896
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a brilliant movie, that was finding the

897
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: needle in the haystack there. Certainly. Nick Bolton, number eight

898
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 2: of the Kansas.

899
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 3: City Chiefs Fink High Quality Player, year five.

900
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: He's the he's the least experienced guy on this list

901
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: at year five.

902
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 3: I know that was your original point, and that's well taken.

903
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 3: I mean, and he didn't really really struggle early on,

904
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 3: but he also doesn't have a super high ceiling too.

905
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: He's he doesn't run great and he's a.

906
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: High quality performance, solid, but not a game changer.

907
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

908
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 2: Number nine, number nine, Denzel Perryman, year eleven.

909
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: Oh, that's too high for him. They really liked these

910
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:54,839
Speaker 3: old guys too much.

911
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: They they're giving the vets. Yeah, which again was kind

912
00:40:57,560 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: of my point in going into this, is that all

913
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: these guys, yeah, and we disagree with a lot of

914
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: them but I mean.

915
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 3: The fact that these old guys don't make many mistakes

916
00:41:05,239 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 3: and don't run the wrong way has a lot of merit.

917
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 3: But even Perryman in his prime got picked on in

918
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: coverage in a big He doesn't run well, and he

919
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: never ran well.

920
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 2: He's a thumper and number ten on the list. Frankie

921
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,359
Speaker 2: Luvu of the Washington Commanders year.

922
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 3: He's different than the rest because, like he was their

923
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: best pass rusher. He is an off the ball linebacker.

924
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 3: I'm glad he's on this list. But to his credit,

925
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: he also can walk down over a tight end or

926
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 3: a tackle and rush the passer like a true pass rusher,

927
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,799
Speaker 3: not just a off the ball blitzer. So no, he

928
00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,760
Speaker 3: was a success.

929
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 2: Jack Campbell and de Mario Davis listed as your honorable mentions.

930
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: Davis is another old timer. It's had a great career.

931
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 3: He'll be in the Saints honor. Yeah, that that type

932
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 3: of dude. Campbell's promising, but coming along slower than people thought.

933
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 3: He did not just burst on the scene and light

934
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: the world up. He's a perfect example, right, and he

935
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 3: was known as a very smart you know NFL ready

936
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 3: none of the NFL ready. Yeah, don't think that you know.

937
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 2: And it is. I mean think about that. You reference

938
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 2: the Devin Bush you know selection a year and everything. Yeah,

939
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,359
Speaker 2: Devin White went fifth overall that year, right, so two

940
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: off ball linebackers. It was pretty terrible too, in the

941
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: top ten, right, I think that changed a lot of I.

942
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 3: Mean, I don't think that White's even a league might

943
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 3: not be right, He's bounced around. I think he got

944
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 3: cut from his most recent team.

945
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,480
Speaker 2: Or he the Raiders right now?

946
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, in a very low contract. Yes, again, he's

947
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 3: people because people draft athletes, but like that position.

948
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 2: He just turned twenty seven a couple months.

949
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 3: Ago, and he's teetering on the end of not being

950
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: in the league, right, right, right.

951
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 2: It's crazy. He was a top five pick and had

952
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 2: a pretty solid rookie season on that Bucks team that

953
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 2: won the Super Bowl.

954
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,399
Speaker 3: He had the fortune of playing next to David who

955
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 3: told him what to do, you know, and and he

956
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: could run and hit and he has a lot of

957
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 3: splash plays. But boy, the Bucks did not mind going

958
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 3: moving away from him.

959
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 2: No they did not.

960
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 3: That's a that was a miss traffic.

961
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 2: You know, the days of seeing a couple off ball

962
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 2: linebackers take in the first round are few and far between,

963
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 2: and now it's more like early second round is kind of.

964
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 3: The wheelhouse nations consistently like in the Defensive Player of

965
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,320
Speaker 3: the Year conversation, Right, you got to be pretty special

966
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: to do that, Matt.

967
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: This day was special, Thank you, it was.

968
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: Let's do it again tomorrow.

969
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: Let's do it again tomorrow to close down the acclamation period.

970
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: Big thanks to Bob Labriola for joining us early on

971
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: to talk a little hall of honor. Big thanks to

972
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: Spencer Anderson for joining us and all the Steelers PR

973
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: two for sex today setting that that was nice on

974
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 2: that broke some things up nice yeah yeah. And a

975
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 2: big thank you of course to our guy Justin for

976
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 2: producing back at the ranch for us all. You will

977
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 2: already know the drill. There's practice tomorrow, so that means

978
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 2: there will be SNR tomorrow ten am. Our coverage begins

979
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,439
Speaker 2: again within the locker room with Starks and Kinger. Matt

980
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 2: and I will be back with you at two o'clock tomorrow.

981
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: You already know the drill. You know where to find us.

982
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,239
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983
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984
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