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Speaker 1: and Republicans. Unfortunately, the federal government has and we now

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Speaker 1: know more about this because people talk about the deep state,

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Speaker 1: but it's really the fourth branch of government, the bureaucracy.

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Speaker 1: It is controlled by Democrat acts by leftists across the board.

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Speaker 1: If you're looking at the rank and file of federal government,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean everybody. There are some amazing patriots I

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Speaker 1: know that I would trust in in any situation and

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Speaker 1: are the most ethical people imaginable who work for the

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Speaker 1: federal government. But overwhelmingly the political inclination of federal government

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Speaker 1: employees is democrat, is leftist. And that also applies to prosecutors,

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Speaker 1: to the Department of Justice, to the very folks who

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Speaker 1: have the kind of power where they can ruin lives

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Speaker 1: if they choose to, they can destroy careers, they can

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Speaker 1: take away your freedom. A lot of Democrats, a lot

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Speaker 1: of politicized Democrats in those positions that we've seen from

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Speaker 1: various attempts at prosecution, most of them unsuccessful against Republicans

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Speaker 1: in you know, prominent national level Republicans, whether it's Scott

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Speaker 1: Walker or Chris Christie or uh Bob McDonald was convicted,

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Speaker 1: but then the Supreme Court said, you can't convict somebody

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Speaker 1: for that. Guys, try again, right you. You look at

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Speaker 1: the list Governor Rick Perry in Texas prosecutors going after them.

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Speaker 1: They don't find any they don't get anything. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, they're not gonna have anything on Trump at

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Speaker 1: the end of this rush of thing, as we know

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Speaker 1: and have known all along. But the process is the punishment,

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Speaker 1: and the process sores. The bureaucrats are leftist, they're Hillary voters,

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Speaker 1: maybe Bernie voters, the deep state. Baby. You know, that's

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Speaker 1: something to keep in mind as we go forward here.

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Speaker 1: But McDonald, governor of Virginia, who at one point was

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Speaker 1: on the short list of possible vice presidential candidates for

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Speaker 1: Mitt Romney and was talked about, I think largely because

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Speaker 1: he looks like a guy that would be cast as

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Speaker 1: the president in a movie. Mr President, I don't dance,

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Speaker 1: you know. I saw clear in President Danger the other

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Speaker 1: day I was on TV. I still think Hunt for

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Speaker 1: Red October is the best of the film clancy genre.

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless, so Menendez is tied in with this guy Meligan,

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Speaker 1: who's already now a convicted felon and he's facing more

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Speaker 1: charges because of the situation of Menendez. You're like, well, Buck,

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Speaker 1: what did Menendez do? Because the big difference here is

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Speaker 1: whether there is what you call a quid pro quo,

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Speaker 1: and that's that was not the standard for Menendez. I mean,

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Speaker 1: sorry for McDonald, governor of former governor Virginia. They went

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Speaker 1: after him and his wife, who wasn't even a public official,

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Speaker 1: had no power. They prosecuted his wife criminally as well

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Speaker 1: for being part of the corruption conspiracy or whatever. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just crazy. A bunch of a bunch of federal

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Speaker 1: prosecutors who were who were looking to uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: looking to add to their resume. It was. It was

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Speaker 1: politically motivated head hunting. I mean, that's and that's what

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Speaker 1: prosecutors do all the time, and it tends to happen

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Speaker 1: against Republicans. I'm gonna talk to you about the implications

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Speaker 1: of the Menendez case in a second, which is a

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Speaker 1: Senate seat. A Senate seat hangs in the balance here

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Speaker 1: by the how much did we are not What was

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Speaker 1: the difference with not repealing versus repealing Obamacare? Just a

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Speaker 1: few weeks ago, with thanks Senator John McCain, what was

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Speaker 1: the difference one vote one vote. If it were not

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Speaker 1: for federal prosecutors going after Ted Stevens, centator from Alaska

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Speaker 1: and hiding exculpatory evidence, deliberately railroading a US center. But

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Speaker 1: he's a Republican, you would not have had the series

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Speaker 1: of events that led to Obamacare's passage. They wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: had the sixty So these political corruption trials have implications

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Speaker 1: far beyond just the what it means for that state,

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Speaker 1: that that individual, of his family and those who voted

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Speaker 1: for him, and those around him, right, the staffs that

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Speaker 1: work for these senators. They have national level implications. And

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Speaker 1: this Menendez thing, it's gonna be over in like six

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Speaker 1: weeks and people are like, oh, there was a trial.

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Speaker 1: You mean there was a U. S senator. Yeah, sure,

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Speaker 1: they have to cover it somewhat, meaning the media has

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Speaker 1: to go through the motions. But with Menendez, they're just

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Speaker 1: going through the motions. This could be a senency, this

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Speaker 1: could lead to have you have you heard anybody saying

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Speaker 1: this any except of course our friends at Fox and

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Speaker 1: some other talk radio shows, right, but I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: the rest of the media. Have you heard any of

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Speaker 1: them say that you may have the first time in

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Speaker 1: over over a century. I want to say, maybe the

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Speaker 1: first time. I think it might. Let me check, it

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Speaker 1: might be the first time ever where you have a

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Speaker 1: Senator who is removed from office, impeached and removed from

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Speaker 1: I guess not a peach. I forget what the specific

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Speaker 1: terminology is, but they might because he might not step

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Speaker 1: down even if he's convicted of felony charges because of

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Speaker 1: the Senate sy that hangs in the balance. And Chris

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Speaker 1: Christie is a governor of Virginia right now, I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: governed of New Jersey right now. Virginia is like what

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Speaker 1: government New Jersey right now. I know we're balancing around

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Speaker 1: the country a lot here, so that's at stake, but

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Speaker 1: for pure tabloid reasons, for just reasons of human interest

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Speaker 1: and what we like to read about. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: got Menendez trying to the senator from New Jersey, trying

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Speaker 1: to weigh in for this convicted felon Melgan, ninety million

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Speaker 1: dollars of fraud. This guy ninety million, convicted, sixteen counts.

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Speaker 1: This guy's dirty as dirty can be. And Menendez is

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Speaker 1: trying to exert influence of the federal government to help Meligan,

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Speaker 1: who owns some shipping interests. I think in the Dominican Republic,

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Speaker 1: Menendez is taking flights on this guy's private Jetty ended

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Speaker 1: up having to pay back at one point fifty thou

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Speaker 1: dollars out of his pocket because it was so gross

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Speaker 1: what he was Menendez was taking fifteen hundred dollar a

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Speaker 1: night hotel room stays in Paris. Menendez was putting pressure

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Speaker 1: on the immigration system in this in this country to

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Speaker 1: try and get you know, various foreign beauties the ability

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Speaker 1: to come into the country for Meligan, who I should

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Speaker 1: notice married see photos of his wife outs of the courthouse,

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Speaker 1: but you know, flying in foreign girlfriends with lots of

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Speaker 1: bikini photos all over Facebook and everything. Right, I mean this,

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Speaker 1: this is what's going. This is one of the most

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Speaker 1: powerful Democrats senators in the country right now, directly tied

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Speaker 1: in the dirictor to our foreign policy making. This guy

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Speaker 1: has been around for decades, deep connections, and his closest associate,

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Speaker 1: who's writing huge checks to make sure Menendez is reelected,

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Speaker 1: is flying around on a private jet, flying in his

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Speaker 1: foreign hotties left and right, trying to use his post

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Speaker 1: as a U. S senator to help get the uh

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Speaker 1: foreign ladies entrance into this country, trying to exert pressure.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you go down the list and you're just like,

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Speaker 1: how is this not corruption? If this isn't corruption for

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Speaker 1: us sitting US senator, what is and what will it

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Speaker 1: say about the Democrat Party? Have you think about this? Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll say in the Democrat party, if Menendez is convicted

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Speaker 1: and he doesn't step down and they're gonna force are

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Speaker 1: there any Democrats who are going to try to keep it?

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Speaker 1: Convince you? You think yourself, no way, Buck, There's no

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Speaker 1: way they would do that. Oh yeah, if it means

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Speaker 1: the balance of the Senate, you don't think that they'd

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Speaker 1: be willing to take the hit on their credibility because

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Speaker 1: they want to wait and see who the next covernent

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Speaker 1: of New Jersey is. They assume it will be a Democrat,

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Speaker 1: and then a Democrat will appoint menendez Is replacement. Now

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Speaker 1: this is assuming he's guilty, and Menendez, you know, not

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Speaker 1: guilty until proven it I mean, sorry, whoop snow, not

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Speaker 1: guilty until proven innocency. I'm getting way ahead of myself

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Speaker 1: with that one. I'm thinking of how they treat Republicans,

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Speaker 1: which is guilty until proven innocent, and even then they're

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Speaker 1: still guilty, right, But this Menendez thing is incredible and

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Speaker 1: no one's paying any attention to in the media. They

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Speaker 1: just don't want to talk about it. I mean this

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Speaker 1: the difference between whether or not repeal and replaced in

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Speaker 1: some capacity happens, maybe whether Menendez is found guilty of

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Speaker 1: trying to force immigrations and customs to let this guy

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Speaker 1: Meligan's foreign you know, girlfriends to come into the country.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and no one, no one the media is

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Speaker 1: talking about all right, right eight four four U eight

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Speaker 1: four four five. What do you think about this menendez'z thing?

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Speaker 1: Did you know all this? I was reading about this.

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Speaker 1: This is incredible. Um. Also, if you have any thoughts

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Speaker 1: on taxes, anything else, let me know. We'll take some

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Speaker 1: calls if you want. Otherwise we'll move on to some

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Speaker 1: other things. We'll be right back, all right, the team.

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Speaker 1: Oh hey, Bucks exton his back, Which is weird because

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Speaker 1: that's me referring to myself in the third person. But

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Speaker 1: there we have it. Julie in Tennessee on the Blaze Radio.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, Julie, Hiji, thanks for the call, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he um, I was wondering have you heard about the

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Speaker 1: second Lieutenant Spencer Rappone. Oh yeah, this is the West

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Speaker 1: Point guy that had the che givar a shirt on

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Speaker 1: and uh and also had the what was it communism

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Speaker 1: will win in his hat at at West Point while

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Speaker 1: in uniform right right with his sisters and all that.

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Speaker 1: He's a hashtag support kapern. I guess it was what

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Speaker 1: he was saying. Um, yeah, he's goes he goes by

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Speaker 1: comy bebop on his Twitter feed and I just I

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Speaker 1: pulled up on one of the articles. It's through the

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Speaker 1: Independent Sentinel dot com. Uh. Former Democratic Rep. Jason Altmire

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Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania recommended Rappon to West Point. Um and now

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Speaker 1: he's he's um uh stepping that back. And there's they're

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Speaker 1: saying that Rappon's father is also a politician in Pennsylvania

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Speaker 1: and he's disavowing him also. And so if you go

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Speaker 1: over to that site and read the article gives you

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Speaker 1: more information. Now, according to the U c mj that

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Speaker 1: is that's a criminal offense against the military. That's he

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Speaker 1: should be tried. I don't know what the specifics of

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Speaker 1: you c m j R. With regard to what he's done,

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Speaker 1: but I do know that you can't I do know

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Speaker 1: you can't do that, right, absolutely? He well, what what

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Speaker 1: articles conduct on becoming an officer? Yeah? Yeah, sure, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So in my husband's you we have both veterans, but

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Speaker 1: he's up on all that stuff. But yeah, so so

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Speaker 1: several of us, you know, through Facebook, we communicate and

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Speaker 1: this is really taken off with us in in the

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Speaker 1: social media and it's I'm really glad that it's come

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Speaker 1: to the forefront. But now, what do we do with

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Speaker 1: these people? Because he's claiming that there's many of them,

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Speaker 1: and whether they're leftists in uniform, and there are, there

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Speaker 1: are progressives who who serve and then uh and while

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Speaker 1: they're ideologically trying to undermine the country, they will also

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Speaker 1: be the first one to around and say, see my service,

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Speaker 1: my service. I was like, well, look, just because just

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Speaker 1: because you serve or you go to West Point, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you're allowed to support revolution in this

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Speaker 1: country or something. It doesn't mean that you could say

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Speaker 1: whatever you want to say. Uh. So, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what we're gonna what we're gonna do with them,

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Speaker 1: um or what we're gonna do about this. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've never been military, so I can't. Yeah, I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: I would tell you this, Um, there are a lot

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Speaker 1: of and I thank you for your service in your call, Julian,

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Speaker 1: your husband as well. There are a lot of leftists

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Speaker 1: out there who are in positions in the government that

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Speaker 1: they like the power, and they also like to have

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Speaker 1: the access to government institutions as STATUSS. So you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know why would someone be so dumb as

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Speaker 1: to do this though. It just throws his whole I mean,

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Speaker 1: military career or any career away. Really, I just can't

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Speaker 1: imagine UM being so foolish. But as Young West Point

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Speaker 1: Cadet decided to put it all out there, let's talk

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Speaker 1: about the election last night. We'll get into that. So

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Speaker 1: more upset strange last night in Alabama in the Senate

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Speaker 1: primary for the GOP. Now people are saying that that

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Speaker 1: is well, they're right in saying this, that it's the

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Speaker 1: overwhelming likelihood, based on recent electoral history in Alabama is

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Speaker 1: that you're going to have Republican win. Although I think

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Speaker 1: you can expect a a very clear line of attack

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Speaker 1: from the Democrats in Alabama for that Senate seat. That

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Speaker 1: may not be so much about that seat as it

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Speaker 1: is about the hashtag resistance and anti Trump is um.

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Speaker 1: But before I get too far down into that, let's

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Speaker 1: talk a bit about what happened last night. Let's discuss

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Speaker 1: why is it that it was a clear victory for

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Speaker 1: a candidate who didn't have the backing of the establishment.

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Speaker 1: Now he had Trump Trump in his corner and it

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Speaker 1: didn't work. And I saw that reporting today that Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump was on happy about how this went down and

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Speaker 1: was angry about it. But when you look at what

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Speaker 1: was really lined up here and what the two size

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Speaker 1: representative voters in Alabama, I think this all makes a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of sense. It's not surprising in the least.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so Roy Moore, those of you may not know,

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Speaker 1: was I think he's still best known for being the

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Speaker 1: Ten Commandments judge. He had a Ten Commandments granite monument

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Speaker 1: outside of the Alabama Courthouse, Alabama's was the state Supreme Court,

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Speaker 1: I believe, and he didn't move it even after he

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Speaker 1: was told that he had to move it. And there

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Speaker 1: have been some other times. There's been a couple of

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Speaker 1: times when he's gotten into trouble for refusing to cave.

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Speaker 1: He says he has religious convictions and that religion and

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Speaker 1: state should not be separating the way that so many

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Speaker 1: in the media and certainly the A. C. L U

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Speaker 1: insists upon, and he won't go along with it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So that's that's more. And and he's a he's a

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Speaker 1: colorful figure. He is somebody that the establishment is not

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Speaker 1: all that comfortable with. I think that's fair to say.

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Speaker 1: Here's Judge Roy Moore's victor speech, just a little part

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Speaker 1: of it from last night after he won by ten points.

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Speaker 1: Play thirteen. Please. I believe we can make America great,

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Speaker 1: but we must make America good. And you cannot make

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Speaker 1: America good without acknowledging the sovereign source of that goodness,

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Speaker 1: the sovereign source of our law, liberty, and government, which

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Speaker 1: is Almighty God. Now I should note that there was

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Speaker 1: an analysis done of Bill Clinton and on this issue

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Speaker 1: of God and God in public life and citing God

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Speaker 1: in public life. I remember reading analysis. This is many

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Speaker 1: years ago, so this is just going to the buck

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Speaker 1: memory banks here. But it broke down how often in

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Speaker 1: public statements President Bill Clinton, Hey, everybody, I'm back versus

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Speaker 1: George W. Bush mentioned God, and Clinton actually said it

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Speaker 1: more in public, meaning that when he was giving an

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Speaker 1: official statement of one kind of another Clinton actually would

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Speaker 1: speak like God more often, and this raised some questions,

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Speaker 1: which is why is George W. Considered the super religious,

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Speaker 1: you know, evangelical, right wing Christian, whereas Clinton has to

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Speaker 1: be like, you know God, there's God, then I'm just

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Speaker 1: gonna talk about And it was fine, fine with the media.

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Speaker 1: The left was okay with it. I think it's because

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Speaker 1: they realized that most of the country, including Democrats, are

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Speaker 1: still religious, and they're willing to allow Democrat representative. The

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Speaker 1: power base, the progressive power base within the left is

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Speaker 1: you know, the the A. C. L U H Planned

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Speaker 1: parenthood Nancy Pelosi. Left is willing to allow Nancy Pelosi

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Speaker 1: to talk about how she's a cathol like even though

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Speaker 1: she should be based on church doctrine, she should be excommunicated.

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Speaker 1: It's just just reality. I went to Jesuit school. We

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Speaker 1: can talk about excommunication all day if you want, be

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Speaker 1: able to do church history on some day if I

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Speaker 1: feel like it. But they they are okay with with

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Speaker 1: a lot of hypocrisy from Democrats on the issue of God,

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Speaker 1: on their public utterances about God, and and media in

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Speaker 1: general has a really uh difficult time with connecting with

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Speaker 1: people of people of faith, and unless it's Islam, in

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Speaker 1: which case you'll have everyone from President Obama who will

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Speaker 1: say that the future does not belong to those who

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Speaker 1: slanted the profit of Islam, to every pundit I can

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Speaker 1: think of at CNN who all of a sudden, even

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Speaker 1: the ones who have never been to a Muslim majority country,

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Speaker 1: don't know the history of the Muslim world, don't know

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Speaker 1: a darn thing. They'll go on TV and they'll be

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Speaker 1: the one saying, Oh, that's the real concern, heres is Lamophobia.

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Speaker 1: I'm just from really worried about all these is Lamophobia

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Speaker 1: that's coming out of this recent terrorist attack where lots

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Speaker 1: of people died, But the Islamophobia is the real problem.

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Speaker 1: There's there's a whole there's a whole bunch of people

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Speaker 1: that have made a career out of this right rushing

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Speaker 1: to the defensive. And they're not themselves at least, not

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Speaker 1: that I'm aware of Muslims, but they rushed to the

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Speaker 1: defense of Islam because it is a religion that is

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Speaker 1: associated with um non white and therefore ethnic minorities, even

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Speaker 1: though there are plenty of white Muslims around the world,

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Speaker 1: but neither here nor there. For the left purposes, and

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Speaker 1: it is a counterweight to Christianity, which the left is

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Speaker 1: always excited about. In fact, we don't. We have Lawrence

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Speaker 1: O'Donnell over the MSNBC. He was playing more speech and

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Speaker 1: then you know more uh, after his victory last night

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Speaker 1: Judge Moore won the Alabama Republican primary for Senate and

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Speaker 1: Lawrence odnald over MSNBC is is playing the speech and

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Speaker 1: he just cuts away from play four teen. We believe

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Speaker 1: that all people are created in the image of God,

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Speaker 1: and from that faith, we were not be moved. We've

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Speaker 1: been moved. Okay, we're gonna come back into the studio

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Speaker 1: for this conversation. What I'm I've been told by the

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Speaker 1: control room is that he has been speaking about God

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Speaker 1: and about God almost exclusively, with I think so far

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Speaker 1: no real reference to his opponent or Donald Trump. Good Heavens,

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Speaker 1: what's giving? What do you mean He's giving all this time,

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Speaker 1: all this airtime to God, G O D. That's insane.

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Speaker 1: Stop the hammering. Stop. Someone called Phil Griff stop the hammering.

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Speaker 1: Remember that that was the same guy late on the

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Speaker 1: show earlier the week that clip of Laurence O'Donnell I

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Speaker 1: love when you get a peek at some of these pampered,

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Speaker 1: overpaid TV types. Now you know these these democrats over

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Speaker 1: at the various three letter networks, when you know that

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Speaker 1: they're they're champions of the people, until it actually comes

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Speaker 1: to interacting with the people, and then you see that

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Speaker 1: not so much, not so much. One of my one

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Speaker 1: of my favorite anecdotes is of a friend of mine conservative,

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Speaker 1: not all time anecdotes, but on this issue, is of

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Speaker 1: a conservative friend of mine who was traveling out to

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Speaker 1: California and Rachel Maddow of MM of MSNBC was on

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Speaker 1: his plane and he said that, you know, just all

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Speaker 1: these people back in in coach, we're trying to wander

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Speaker 1: up and get a peek at Mattow, who of course

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Speaker 1: was in first class, and and I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: tell her how they appreciated how much she was doing

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Speaker 1: for UH, for the working class in this country and

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Speaker 1: for lower income people in this country. It's like, you know, man,

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Speaker 1: I was making ten million dollars a year. She she

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Speaker 1: does not actually she does not actually care one way

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Speaker 1: or the other. What's going on with you. I hate

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Speaker 1: to break it to the progressives en route to California

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Speaker 1: in that plane who were sneaking up to first class

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Speaker 1: to talk about how Mattaw is this class warrior but

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Speaker 1: doesn't really care, does not really care, likes to pretend

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Speaker 1: to care because a lot of other people from the coasts,

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Speaker 1: from the cities, from blue blue areas of the US

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Speaker 1: like to think about how much they care about the

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Speaker 1: economically less fortunate. But it is just a form of

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Speaker 1: making themselves feel good. It's not actually, it's doesn't translate

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Speaker 1: into their own personal conduct or anything else. Okay, I

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Speaker 1: know I've I've wandered a bit. Once you get me

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Speaker 1: on MSNBC, I just go off into that direction and

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Speaker 1: there's some important takeaways and this is what, this is

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Speaker 1: what darned buck I've got. I've got vegas on the brain. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm already thinking about those craps tables and black jack

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Speaker 1: later and all that stuff. Although I actually I don't

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Speaker 1: I don't gamble. I don't understand the appeal. But this

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Speaker 1: will have to be a just personally, it's just not

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Speaker 1: for me. I don't know. I wish, I wish I

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Speaker 1: thought it was fun because I'm in a great place

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Speaker 1: right now to gamble, But I'm not a gambler. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I do love good food though, and shows and all that,

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Speaker 1: So I do like that part of Vegas. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about why Moore's win has some implications because

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Speaker 1: I know Trump was upset about this and and I

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Speaker 1: can understand how this looks. Yet Bannon going to the

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Speaker 1: Matt going going, uh as all in as he could

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Speaker 1: to try and help More win, and sure enough More

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Speaker 1: beat Luther Strange by about ten points. You also had

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Speaker 1: doctors Bash and Gorka, who we've had on this show

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Speaker 1: many times, uh and Sarah Palin all in favor of

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Speaker 1: of Judge Moore. And people are saying, well, this show's well,

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Speaker 1: there's a whole bunch of different things in the show.

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Speaker 1: One is that Trump has to actually be about Trump

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Speaker 1: is um. I think that's the most important single takeaway

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Speaker 1: from all of this, That we didn't just elect the

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Speaker 1: president because he, as I've been saying, this show angers

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Speaker 1: the media, takes the fight to them. Is willing to

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Speaker 1: get involved in the the culture war in a way

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Speaker 1: that you know, other Republicans it was a little too

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Speaker 1: there were a little too country called. They'll say, oh gosh,

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Speaker 1: what are we doing with all the NFL kneeling nonsense. Oh,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the Import Export Bank. Again, that's much

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Speaker 1: more of my alle So we've got a a president

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Speaker 1: right now who will call out the media for fake news,

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Speaker 1: will will find that's and that's all great. But he

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Speaker 1: also made some promises and he brought an agenda with

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Speaker 1: him and we expect him to follow through on that.

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Speaker 1: Our expectation is that he will make good on the agenda.

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Speaker 1: And recently when you look at DOCCA, for example, Deferred

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Speaker 1: Action for childhood Arrivals, where you had Trump at least

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Speaker 1: coming out of a meeting with Nancy Pelosian Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 1: in which the Democrats were saying that it's all systems

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Speaker 1: go on DACA through Congress, which would mean amnesty. That

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Speaker 1: Trump perhaps needed a reminder and maybe this Alabama race

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Speaker 1: is that reminder of you can't abandon the people that

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Speaker 1: are the reason that you got the job. And Strange

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Speaker 1: was less Luther Strange was less of a in immigration

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Speaker 1: hawk then Judge Moore was. So that's one part of this. Also,

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Speaker 1: uh that Bannon is able to be out there and

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Speaker 1: pushing in this way shows that he's probably better off

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Speaker 1: not being in the White House. I actually think that's true,

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Speaker 1: and I don't I know a lot of other conservatives

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Speaker 1: have very Uh, how do I put this, um intense

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Speaker 1: opinions about Bannon. I've never met him, I've never interacted

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Speaker 1: with him, so I all I know about him is

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Speaker 1: his public public persona and his role in the administration

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Speaker 1: and his time at bright Bart. I had some friends

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Speaker 1: at bright Bar, but you know, I don't spend I

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Speaker 1: haven't spent any time with Bannon. But he was important

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Speaker 1: in this whole situation. He was important in this race,

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Speaker 1: and that he's out there and able to go against

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Speaker 1: the public wishes of the president in this way. This

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Speaker 1: isn't on it, This isn't a huge deal, This isn't

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Speaker 1: a slap in the face to the administration. But I

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Speaker 1: think that it is helpful in a sense. It does

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Speaker 1: allow Bannon to just do what he does and make

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Speaker 1: sure that the president stays on message and on the

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Speaker 1: mission build the wall, secure the border, um, all the

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Speaker 1: things that we continue to talk about here on the show. UM. So,

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Speaker 1: I think you have to look at amnesty through DOCCA

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Speaker 1: as a part of what we saw play out in Alabama,

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Speaker 1: meaning that because you had um more very opposed to

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Speaker 1: the Pelosi Schumer deal, people saw that Strange was kind

852
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: of you know, he was kind of iffy on the

853
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: whole thing. So if you are trying to send a

854
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 1: message to Trump that DOCCA is not okay, remember Trump

855
00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: could veto it, right. I mean, it doesn't matter what

856
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: the Congress does. He could say Nope. If you're trying

857
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 1: to send a message to Trump that amnesty for legals

858
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: not okay, voting for more might have been a mechanism

859
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 1: for doing that. Um Beyond that, every one of these

860
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 1: elections is local, and you know, I can't pretend to

861
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: know the mind of the people of Alabama, but there

862
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 1: are some broad trends here that I think we can

863
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: we can identify. There are some areas of this that

864
00:51:32,040 --> 00:51:33,799
Speaker 1: I think are are pretty clear for us. One more

865
00:51:33,840 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: thing before I run into a break, and then I've

866
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: got we're gonna talk about Puerto Rico, what's going on there,

867
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,000
Speaker 1: and we're gonna be talking about e MPs and North

868
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: Korea later on in the show. I believe we got

869
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: Michelle Malkin joining, which will of course be a lot

870
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: of fun much to discuss. One more thing. You have

871
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 1: a former U. S. Attorney running against as as he's

872
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: the Democrat, Cannon Alabama running against more and people are saying, oh, well,

873
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 1: maybe you know, he hasn't raised much money, and they're saying,

874
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 1: maybe he's got a shot. Maybe he'll make a make

875
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,800
Speaker 1: a horse race out of this. I don't think he will.

876
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:12,720
Speaker 1: I think it's unlikely that you will see a close

877
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,880
Speaker 1: race in Alabama for this Senate seat. But because the

878
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:20,720
Speaker 1: individual who is running is a former U. S. Attorney

879
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:25,959
Speaker 1: who also prosecuted the bombing of a Baptist church, Oh gosh,

880
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: I've gone. I've gone long into my time here bombing

881
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: of a Baptist church back in the sixties. He's gonna

882
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: be seen as the anti he's the anti racist. The

883
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,880
Speaker 1: media is going to try and tarnish Moore's reputation and

884
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: character and with it, the whole Republican Party as racist

885
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 1: as klansmen, as all of that, and and hope that

886
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: that's a way of getting their base energized and excited

887
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: for the mid term. So even if they lose in Alabama,

888
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a lot of Democrat pundits and newspapers

889
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: and all the rest of it who are going to

890
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: focus in on that race and say that it's a

891
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 1: political race that is a referendum on racism. That's what

892
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: they'll say. All right, break here, we'll talk about probably

893
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: Puerto Rico on the latest there right after. Stay with me. Well,

894
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 1: we're thinking about that. But we have a lot of

895
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: shippers and a lot of people and a lot of

896
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: people that work in the shipping industry that don't want

897
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: the Jones Act lifted, And we have a lot of

898
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: ships out there right now. And Puerto Rico is a

899
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: very difficult situation. I mean, that place was just destroyed.

900
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: That's not a question of g let's dry up the water,

901
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: let's do this or that in that place was flat.

902
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:38,040
Speaker 1: That is a really tough situation. I feel so badly

903
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: call people President Trump should give a waiver to the

904
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:46,360
Speaker 1: Jones Act. I think we can all be very clear

905
00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,360
Speaker 1: on that. Uh, let's just get into a little the

906
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: background here. Jones Acts from has to do with US

907
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: maritime trade. Along. The short of it is that back

908
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 1: in the Congress decided that it was in the interest

909
00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:06,279
Speaker 1: of the country to make sure that if you're transporting

910
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: goods from one U s port to another U s

911
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,240
Speaker 1: port has to be an American ship with an American crew,

912
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 1: and you know, American American American all the way through.

913
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,760
Speaker 1: And now that means that you can't just have ships

914
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: that go right to uh. You know, ships from Puerto

915
00:54:23,440 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: Rico are being rerouted right or ships to Puerto Rico

916
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: are being routed in ways that um either takes more

917
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 1: time or it's just more expensive. It's more expensive. It's

918
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: a cost measure. UM. So this is right now given

919
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: the devastation Puerto Rico, which is which is terrible. And

920
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: you know, the aftermath of these storms I think often

921
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 1: gets less because you can't have news correspondence standing in

922
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: you know, rubber boots saying you know, I'm up to

923
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: my knees here in the water and look at the wind.

924
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:57,600
Speaker 1: So the visual I'm being seriously, the visual is just

925
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: not as powerful. So after the storm you get far

926
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: less attention to what's and and many times the aftermath

927
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 1: is the worst part. The shortages of potable drinking water

928
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:13,239
Speaker 1: or potable water repeat myself, of of food, of medical care,

929
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: all of that. And Puerto Rico needs help right now.

930
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: It's in badchan. Now. The US has been said, I

931
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: mean the US, it's part of the U S but

932
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The federal government has been

933
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: sending a lot of help, and they've been engaged in

934
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: a massive relief operation. But the Jones Act should should go.

935
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: It's from Homeland Security can wave at George W. Bush

936
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: wave that after Katrina, and it should just mean that

937
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,439
Speaker 1: any ships from anywhere that can get to Puerto Rico

938
00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 1: and bring it stuff should just go um and that

939
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: would make things better off. I think. Here's what the

940
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: Walsttert Journal says. A senior j H official said that

941
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: the Jones Act doesn't permit the Department to grant waivers

942
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,880
Speaker 1: simply to push down costs. Only the Department of Defense

943
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: may obtain a Jones Act waiver automatically, which you did

944
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 1: did to remove petroleum or to move petroleum products from

945
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: Texas after Hurricane Harvey. If request comes from another agency

946
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: or persons such as a member of Congress, DHS conducts

947
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: an analysis to determine whether US flagships can a comminate

948
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: that needs before granting it. So this is they've got

949
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 1: to understand the politics here. And we're also not a

950
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: period where it's a a national security issue for US

951
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,759
Speaker 1: to have a big shipping industry that domestic based, and

952
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,520
Speaker 1: we've we've got a lot of ways to get stuff

953
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: around that is not based on shipping the way it

954
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: was in You know, there were concerns about what would

955
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,240
Speaker 1: happen to us if we had an inability to continue

956
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: to get supplies, if we were engaged in another war,

957
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: like I say, World War two. Um, so these are

958
00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 1: all this is a law that's outdated, and they should

959
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: wave this thing. And I hope Trump doesn't fall into

960
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: the trap here of because the media is telling him

961
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 1: to do it. I know he doesn't want to do it.

962
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 1: But just because the media wants you to do something,

963
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: President Trump, does not mean it's always wrong. And in

964
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: this case, wave the Jones Act. Let that let that relief,

965
00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:10,160
Speaker 1: Let those supplies get to Puerto Rico, bring the cost down,

966
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: make it faster. That's the way to do it. All right,

967
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna have more back with you in just a

968
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,320
Speaker 1: few bucks. X in here with you from Las Vegas today,

969
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: very much enjoying my time down here. Let's get Allison

970
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: in Alabama on w BV. Hay Allison, Hi, how are you.

971
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 1: I'm good? So you actually voted in this Senate race? Yes,

972
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 1: I did. I'm sorry. I know you've kind of moved

973
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: on from the no no no. We we we love

974
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: the ground truth here. It's a you know, we cover

975
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: a lot of territory, so tell me what's going on. Okay. So,

976
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 1: in the first time of voting, I voted for No Brooks,

977
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: and I was really worried that this would end up

978
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: happening strange and Roy Moore, which lets the vote, and

979
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: this would end up happening. And I actually voted for

980
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: Roy Moore yesterday. But um, I was really complicted about

981
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: it because on the winning and I kind of feel

982
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 1: like an embarrassment to the state in a lot of ways.

983
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: I had family members he just couldn't bring themselves to

984
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 1: even participate in this right off. Um, I'm a Republican

985
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: and I'm a Christian, and it's an alabit about it.

986
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 1: I just feel like he reinforces all of the worst

987
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 1: stereotypes about Republicans and Christians and people from Alabama. And

988
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: can I tell you something, Alison, and I should have

989
00:58:25,360 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: brought this up before, but now you're I'm having conscience,

990
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: uh pangs of conscience here or something or something like that. Um.

991
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:36,600
Speaker 1: You know, he was asked pretty recently, I think by

992
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: a reporter what he this is now more what he

993
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: thought about docca and at least from what I read,

994
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 1: and he didn't know. He didn't know what it was. Yep,

995
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: he didn't know what it was, which if you're running

996
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: for a sentence in Alabama, I mean, that's kind of

997
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: up there with running for presidents saying what is Aleppo? Which,

998
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:58,520
Speaker 1: if you remember, Gary Johnson said back, what was that

999
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: last summer? And Yone's like, you're kidding, right, dude. Not

1000
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,320
Speaker 1: great that Moore didn't know what DOCCA is. I can't.

1001
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:10,440
Speaker 1: I cannot lie, folks. That is not encouraging. But hey,

1002
00:59:10,520 --> 00:59:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, some people make mistakes. Maybe he misheard him,

1003
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 1: especially considering that he was a former chief Justice of

1004
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 1: the State Supreme Court and the whole legal argument surrounding

1005
00:59:21,560 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: all of that. It just seems impossible that he did

1006
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: not know what that is but would think it. I mean,

1007
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: that's why, I mean, there must have been maybe he

1008
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: just look. I do radio, and sometimes even the middle

1009
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: of this, I'll realize I've spaced out for a second,

1010
00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: or a caller I won't hear something quite right, and

1011
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: that can I don't. I don't. I'm not trying to

1012
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: dodge I I brought it up because I had to

1013
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 1: be honest with everybody that was not a that was

1014
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:49,080
Speaker 1: not an inspiring moment from the likely next Alabama senator.

1015
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:56,360
Speaker 1: But what was your The interviewer gave him multiple opportunities

1016
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 1: to jock his memory, So I don't think that he

1017
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: just faced out, but I was really worn about it

1018
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: because of course there's a lot of people who have

1019
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: a negative image of louder Strange as far as the

1020
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,760
Speaker 1: way he was appointed to that see the fact that

1021
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: Mitch McConnell had requested to the former governor who had

1022
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 1: actually asked him to appoint loose restraints to do you

1023
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 1: think it was just McConnell backlash? Is that really what

1024
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: was going on? I think that was a big part

1025
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: of it. And I think especially in the in the

1026
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: first race when Mobrook was in it, I think everyone

1027
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 1: was kind of startled by the amount of money that

1028
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: they threw into it and the attacks on low Brooks

1029
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: and I I really and I hated to see it

1030
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,760
Speaker 1: happened because I knew what was gonna end up happening,

1031
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: but the ads and everything they were inundating its with

1032
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: it would end up leading to this to Roy Moore

1033
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 1: and lose restraints. And I think that the Republicans thought

1034
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: that it would be an easy win, and I don't

1035
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,000
Speaker 1: know why they thought that, and I think by the

1036
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: time they realized based on what the results were in

1037
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 1: the first round, I think then they knew that they

1038
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: had kind of messed up because he ended up uh

1039
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: beating both of them. So I just, you know, I

1040
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: hated on one hand, but at the same time, I

1041
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 1: know that those stereotypes they already exist anyway, people already

1042
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: think that way about Republicans and questionings and people from Alabama.

1043
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 1: The fact that this race even happened, it was enough

1044
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 1: negative publicity in that regard, and so I just ended

1045
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: up buying the bullet and voting for him because I

1046
01:01:27,640 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: felt like it was important um to at least he's

1047
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: not seen another ally up there for Ms McConnell to

1048
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 1: make sure that Trump realizes, you know that even though

1049
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: we support him and we support his agenda first and foremost,

1050
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,800
Speaker 1: really and so it's not just as simple as him

1051
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:49,959
Speaker 1: coming out with the campaign for someone and everyone's gonna

1052
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,600
Speaker 1: fall in line behind if people realized that he doesn't

1053
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 1: know whose strange um him haven't been a lobbyist and

1054
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 1: a lot of things you've been involved in with like

1055
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: the EB five, immigran ration and possans and um a

1056
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 1: few other things that he's been involved with that are

1057
01:02:05,480 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: kind of shady. So he just wasn't a great candidate.

1058
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:10,680
Speaker 1: More than not a good candidate. I kind of hate

1059
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,280
Speaker 1: that it happened this way, UM, but it is what

1060
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,400
Speaker 1: it is, and I hope that at least it will

1061
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,720
Speaker 1: share the other Republicans that are going to be their

1062
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: incumbents too, every racist coming up, and maybe it don't

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Speaker 1: make them realize that they actually do have to get

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Speaker 1: on board with this agenda that things we voted for.

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Speaker 1: Because it's not the craziest person that we can find,

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Speaker 1: will probably end up getting sent to the Senate, so

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Speaker 1: or losing to a Democrat. And that's honestly, I think

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Speaker 1: that is a possibility to happen in December. I hope

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Speaker 1: it doesn't, but that could happen, all right, Alison, thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for the calling from Alabama. Fields. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. Felix uh in Texas. Listen on the I

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Speaker 1: Heart app. What's up, Felix? Oh, not much, Thank you

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Speaker 1: for taking my call. Thank you. Question on North Korea, UM,

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Speaker 1: when we went in Iraq, they wouldn't let inspectors in

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Speaker 1: there whatnot for uh weapons of master search and that's

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Speaker 1: why we went after Saddam. Well there were inspectors, but

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Speaker 1: then they're playing games with the inspectors. Then we didn't

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Speaker 1: think the inspectors could could could do enough. And that's

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Speaker 1: a big, long debate and of itself, but yeah, there

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Speaker 1: are problems with the inspectors. That was the and Saddam

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Speaker 1: did kick them out. So yeah, yeah, I mean, is

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Speaker 1: North Korea lucky they don't have something we want? Why

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01:03:23,480 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: couldn't we play the same card with China and other

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Speaker 1: people from the UN or other inspectors to do that?

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01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't that line front for something to go

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01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 1: ahead and go Well, you're you're saying, why don't we

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01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: have a an inspections regime in place with Iraq the

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01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: way that we did with um. Well, well, the problem

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Speaker 1: North Korea is that we were inspecting Saddam to make

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Speaker 1: sure he didn't build nuclear weapons, right, that was the

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Speaker 1: purpose of the inspector. With North Korea, we would be

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Speaker 1: inspecting already established nuclear programs and nuclear weapons and missiles, right,

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01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 1: so so we know they have of them and we're

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Speaker 1: not trying to prevent them. From but this is this

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01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,680
Speaker 1: is an important distinction, um Felix. We're not trying to

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Speaker 1: prevent them from getting them, because they're already there, so

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Speaker 1: we're trying to get them to give them up. So

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Speaker 1: it's a different it's a different game than the one

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Speaker 1: we were playing in Iraq. And because we didn't believe

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Speaker 1: at the time that we would be able to deter

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Speaker 1: them from pursuing weapons of mass destruction at some point

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01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: or there's is a big and I get look, I

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Speaker 1: worked in the c I Iraq office. I understand there's

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Speaker 1: a big, complicated discussion that we're stepping into with the

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Speaker 1: Iraq WMD thing. But I'm just saying we were trying

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Speaker 1: to stop them from getting weapons of mass destruction, whereas

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Speaker 1: with North Korea they already have them. And this is

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Speaker 1: I think the lesson that Iran takes from all this.

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Speaker 1: Iran is on the pathway to getting them. North Korea

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Speaker 1: already has them, Iraq didn't get them and we took

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Speaker 1: them out. Iran wants to be in the North Korea

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Speaker 1: camp because once you get them, we we have not

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Speaker 1: been able to uh take a place by force that

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Speaker 1: has new for obvious reasons, because the cost is just

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Speaker 1: too high. No one's gonna do it, and everyone's worried

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Speaker 1: about even destabilizing it through a coup or any of

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01:05:08,080 --> 01:05:12,360
Speaker 1: the other things that foreign states and foreign actors have

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Speaker 1: engaged in the past to get their way on some

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Speaker 1: of these policies and some of these national security issues.

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Speaker 1: So with North Korea, we want them to get rid

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Speaker 1: of their nukes, and they won't, and we've already put

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Speaker 1: them under as much economic pressure. We're trying to put

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Speaker 1: them under as much economic pressure as we can. We've

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Speaker 1: just up that recently by getting the Chinese degree a

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Speaker 1: limit oil. But look, that's all official stuff, right, there's

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Speaker 1: a there's a big border between China North Korea. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of oil smuggling, just like they

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Speaker 1: were smuggling into a rock and the oil for food

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01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 1: program and you know there was so there's this is

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Speaker 1: all gonna be stuff that doesn't work as well as

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Speaker 1: we wanted to. At best, maybe it buys us some

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Speaker 1: time or it puts, you know, putting pressure on the

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Speaker 1: North Korean regime. The problem is we don't even know

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Speaker 1: what that looks like. What is pressure on the North

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Speaker 1: Korean regime? Who takes over you know, if there was

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Speaker 1: a palace coup and in pyeong Yang, do we do

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Speaker 1: we think the next guy would be that much better?

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01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: Who would it even be him? I don't think anyone knows, right,

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Speaker 1: So this is North Korea is an incredibly complicated problem set,

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Speaker 1: and the things that we're doing are are tried and

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01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 1: true in the sense that they've been done elsewhere, but

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Speaker 1: with limited results in the North Korea. I think the

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01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,320
Speaker 1: results are not going to be very good. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: I just thought we could figure out what they had

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01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: in their arsenal because they're they're testing something for a reason,

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01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:33,919
Speaker 1: just to know where they're at, just to keep them

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01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 1: as a no. I mean, look, we we would love,

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Speaker 1: we would love to felix, but they're not gonna let

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Speaker 1: our people in there because we're we're already sanctioning them.

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01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:43,600
Speaker 1: So and there's no and our deal with them or

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01:06:43,640 --> 01:06:45,160
Speaker 1: not our deal, but our demand is, look, you gotta

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Speaker 1: get rid of this nuclear weapons program you've got and

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Speaker 1: and that's it. I mean, we're not saying, hey, okay,

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Speaker 1: the nukes you have are okay, just don't build anymore.

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01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: So we're gonna send an inspector's right, So it's a

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Speaker 1: little bit. It's a different problem set in that way.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, my friend Shieldside, thank you very much for

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Speaker 1: calling in Felix. I do appreciate it. UH one note

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Speaker 1: here because I'm seeing this now when MSNBC Trump mentioned

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Speaker 1: this today with Tom Price on the private jet travel

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Speaker 1: almost I'm not gonna spend much time on this, but

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Speaker 1: play clip one please. I would looking into it, and

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Speaker 1: I will look into it and I will get you personally.

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Speaker 1: I'm not happy about it. I am not happy. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna look at it. I am not happy about it,

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Speaker 1: and I let him know it. So hh S. Secretary

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Speaker 1: Price is in in the hot seed right now, and

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Speaker 1: I should note that I'm I'm watching I've got monitors

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Speaker 1: in here in the in the Las Vegas freedom hunt,

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Speaker 1: and they're they're running a story on Price. I have

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Speaker 1: not seen anything about Menendez this hour, but they're certainly

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Speaker 1: running stories on Price in the private jet usage. This

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Speaker 1: is one of these stories that it only is useful

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Speaker 1: and so far as UH Democrats like to talk about

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Speaker 1: how Republicans are fat cats that like their cigars with

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Speaker 1: a hundred dollar bills and you know, are are just

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Speaker 1: in the pocket of Wall Street and flying with their

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Speaker 1: private jets. Meanwhile, you look at the most prominent Democrats,

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Speaker 1: Clinton's super rich, the Obama's super rich, Nancy Pelosi super rich,

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Speaker 1: John carry super rich by marrying wealthy women twice. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you look at what what the Democrat parties leadership is

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Speaker 1: actually like, and they're the they're the private jet progressive club.

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01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 1: But it is it is a different thing when you're

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Speaker 1: on the taxpayer dime. I'm not saying I'm I'm not

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Speaker 1: playing the game the left place here where they say that, oh,

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Speaker 1: emails were sent from private servers, just like Hillary. Kind

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Speaker 1: of No, not like Hillary at all. Um. And private

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01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: jet usage that you pay for is different from the

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01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:45,719
Speaker 1: taxpayers are on the hook for it. But yeah, price

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Speaker 1: took looks like eleven eleven jet trips. Eleven trips and

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01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,719
Speaker 1: one of them he had lunch with his son or something.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so you know, HHS Secretary, this is they've

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Speaker 1: got to understand. They're looking for this. The press lives

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Speaker 1: for this. Just anything that shows Republicans engaged in bad governance,

1195
01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 1: in self dealing splurges, Uh, anything like that at all

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01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: is gonna be big fodder for Democrats. And they're gonna write,

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Speaker 1: I see it's on CNN. Now, it's on MSNBC. Now,

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Speaker 1: I mean it's all it's all over the place, call

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Speaker 1: of it. CNN. Senate Panel agrees to issue subpoena for Manafort.

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Speaker 1: MSNBC Tom Price uses private jet for It's like, hmm,

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Speaker 1: I'm noticing a trend here. Those are the most important

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01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 1: stories of the country right now, apparently. I mean here

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01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: we are in in in prime time TV and prime

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01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,640
Speaker 1: time and that's what they want to talk to. The

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Speaker 1: HHS secretary's use of taxpayer funded jets and the manifort,

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Speaker 1: the manifort subpoena. Gosh, this is I don't even think

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Speaker 1: these stories are interesting, but people love it. Anything that

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01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,880
Speaker 1: Republicans bad, otocrats good. They love it on the left. Man,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you eight four four buck um. We are

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01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: gonna be joined in the next hour. Just to give

1211
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 1: you a little, a little look ahead. Here, we've got

1212
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:14,559
Speaker 1: Michelle Malkin coming to hang out in the Freedom Hunt

1213
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 1: party here. She's well, you know, Michelle Malkin, serve of

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01:10:16,880 --> 01:10:21,839
Speaker 1: columnists c r TV. Also UH former director of the CIA.

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01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,320
Speaker 1: My old outfit, UH Ambassador James Woolsey supposed to be

1216
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: calling in to talk to us about e MPs. If

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01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 1: if he can't make it today, we'll get him later

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01:10:29,479 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: on this week. I think he's gonna join us later

1219
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:33,400
Speaker 1: on the show though, So we've got some fun stuff

1220
01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: coming up, or at least some interesting stuff coming up

1221
01:10:35,439 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: in the third hour. I mean, e MP is pretty

1222
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: sobering conversation. Um, but that's where we're headed. And if

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01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 1: you've got some thoughts on any of this eight four

1224
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,800
Speaker 1: four N eight to five kind of spot or two

1225
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: open here on the lines if you want to want

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01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: to join in, we'll be right back. There's something going

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Speaker 1: on with allergies. I think that's that's fair to say, right,

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Speaker 1: because you know, I flew down here today at Las

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Speaker 1: Vegas and and we didn't have this problem. I had

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01:11:02,160 --> 01:11:04,240
Speaker 1: to think about it. I had some almonds, and I'm like, well,

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01:11:04,280 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: there is anyone I haven't heard them announce there's an

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01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: allergy on the plane. I guess that's is that only

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01:11:09,680 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: for peanuts or sometimes? UM, I think it's nuts in general.

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01:11:12,920 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: But you know, you'll I've been on a plane before

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01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 1: they say excuse me, everyone, can we please not open

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01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:23,440
Speaker 1: the peannuts in the in the packages because there's an allergy,

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01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait, what really? Why? Why? Uh? Is

1238
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,920
Speaker 1: that is? Why is that going to be an issue?

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01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: It really is particles of this in the air, And

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Speaker 1: this didn't used to be the case. I never heard

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01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,680
Speaker 1: about this growing up. I heard about allergies, but I

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01:11:41,720 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 1: never heard that, you know, if you open a bag

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01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,439
Speaker 1: of peanuts and in the uh you know, seat right

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01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,800
Speaker 1: next to the bathroom, which just tends to be where

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01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 1: I sit on the plane, that somebody in first class

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01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,160
Speaker 1: could go into shock and and and have a real

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01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: medical event, right, I mean that that a medical emergency,

1248
01:11:57,479 --> 01:11:59,360
Speaker 1: that that I had not heard it before. And then

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Speaker 1: you don't even me started on Celiac disease, which I have,

1250
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: which is not actually an allergy. It's always interesting to

1251
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 1: see whether people know what they're talking about or not.

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01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 1: They'll say, well, I'm allergic to gluten, and like, well,

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01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,600
Speaker 1: do you have Celiac disease? Yes, Like, well, that's not

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01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:14,800
Speaker 1: an allergy. Actually, there's nothing do with histame, has nothing

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01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: to do with the the allergic response. Celiac disease is

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01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: actually an autoimmune disorder where your autoimmune system in your

1257
01:12:22,160 --> 01:12:26,880
Speaker 1: GI tract overreacts to gluten or gladden protein. But this

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Speaker 1: is well, we'll talk well, we'll hashtag science the ciliac

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01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:34,320
Speaker 1: discussion for another day. Uh, but allergies are all over

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01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: the place, and now you have this, h you have

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01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: you have two things right. Everyone's got these allergies that

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01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:42,360
Speaker 1: are super severe. And I've been out with friends and

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01:12:42,600 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: you know, I was out recently with a friend of

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01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: mine and his his fiancee, and she listed her allergies.

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Speaker 1: I really had to ask the question, honestly, like what

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Speaker 1: can you eat? You know, I'm allergic to soy, I'm

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01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: allergic to nuts, I'm allergic to dairy, I'm allergic to fish,

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01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,760
Speaker 1: I'm allergic to chop fish, I'm allergic to went down

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Speaker 1: this whole list, and I'm like, you can eat celery, carrots,

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Speaker 1: you know, essentially rabbit food. Um. Yeah, that's that's tough.

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Speaker 1: It's tough stuff. And I've spoken to people that who

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Speaker 1: have you know, all of a sudden, they they chomped

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Speaker 1: on a shrimp and like they're you know, face blew

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Speaker 1: up into this big, big blob because of the uh,

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Speaker 1: allergic reaction. So something's going on with allergy. I have

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Speaker 1: no idea what it is. I've read some crazy theories.

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Speaker 1: You know, I mean, you know there's fluoride in the

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Speaker 1: waters builder bergs. I don't know what it is, but

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Speaker 1: allergies are there's definitely a problem going on with allergies.

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Speaker 1: It's different now and ceeliac disease is not an allergy.

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Speaker 1: But there's also an issue with that that no one

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Speaker 1: seems understand what's going on. But okay, and you've also

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Speaker 1: got people that get pulled off plane. So here you go.

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Speaker 1: You have a woman and do we have tie we

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Speaker 1: we there's no she doesn't use any there's no there's

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Speaker 1: no um profanity right because we just pulled it. Um,

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Speaker 1: why don't we hold this then? For I don't want

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Speaker 1: to air it because I don't she she's being pulled

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Speaker 1: off of. We'll check and make sure she's being pulled

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Speaker 1: off of. It's not it's not great audio. It's not

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Speaker 1: like stop the hammering, which actually he did use a

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Speaker 1: lot of profanity, but we didn't air that. Um stop

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Speaker 1: the hammering, Lawrence O'Donnell. Oh, such a man for the people.

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Speaker 1: But a woman got pulled off of a flight. It

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Speaker 1: was I think Baltimore Southwest flight heading for l A.

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Speaker 1: And she didn't like that somebody or said that she

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Speaker 1: was deathly allergic to dogs and so on on the flight,

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Speaker 1: including someone with a service dog. Uh well, was present,

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Speaker 1: and she wanted the person with the dog to get

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Speaker 1: off the flight. Well, I hate to be the one

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Speaker 1: to break it to her, but you're the one with

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Speaker 1: the allergy to the dogs that you say is life threatening.

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Speaker 1: You're the one who gets off the flight. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the way it's gonna go. She disagreed, and the police

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Speaker 1: disagreed with her. They came on the flight and I

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Speaker 1: had to physically remove her from the plane, which also

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Speaker 1: makes me think was she really deathly allerged? I've never

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Speaker 1: heard of deathly allergic to dogs. I mean, miss Molly

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Speaker 1: is allergic dogs, but she doesn't care. And I was

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Speaker 1: see here, it's so cute. She lets like dogs will

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Speaker 1: lick her hand or her neck or something, and then

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Speaker 1: she'll have a little like rash from the dog because

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Speaker 1: she's allergic to them, but she doesn't care. She loves

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01:15:11,479 --> 01:15:14,599
Speaker 1: them so much she will hang out with them anyway. Um.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, this woman said that she couldn't handle it

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Speaker 1: because of her allergy, and so they said, well, then

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Speaker 1: you gotta get off the flight, and the cops had

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Speaker 1: to drag her off. Southwest has got a pr issue.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry, my dad has a surgery. I think the

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Speaker 1: NFL is in a box. I think they're a really

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Speaker 1: bad box. You look at what's happening with their ratings,

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Speaker 1: you look at what's going I mean, frankly, the only

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Speaker 1: thing that's doing well in the NFL is the free game,

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01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:46,719
Speaker 1: because everybody wants to see what's going on. The NFL

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Speaker 1: is in a very bad box. You cannot have people

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Speaker 1: disrespecting our national anthem, our flag, our country, and that's

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Speaker 1: what they're doing. In my opinion, the NFL has to

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Speaker 1: change or you know what's gonna happen. Their business is

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Speaker 1: gonna go to hell. President Trump saying the NFL has

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Speaker 1: to change or their business will go to hell. By

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Speaker 1: the way, you might have called before that, we actually

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Speaker 1: ended up playing by accidents some of the audio from

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Speaker 1: the plane where the woman was taken off after she

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Speaker 1: said she was allergic to dogs. Definitely allergic to dogs.

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Speaker 1: Um so those got mixed in together. But let's focus

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Speaker 1: on Trump and the NFL and their business model possibly

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Speaker 1: going to hell. We've got Michelle Malkin on the line now,

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Speaker 1: she's a conservative syndicated columns host of Michelle Malkin Investigates

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Speaker 1: on cr TV and the author of Culture of Corruption. Michelle,

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Speaker 1: great to have you, Thanks for having me back book

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01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,080
Speaker 1: talk to me about your piece and Nash Review. How

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Speaker 1: the NFL feeds at the taxpayer trough. I feel like

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01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 1: this doesn't get nearly enough attention as everyone's discussing the

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Speaker 1: First Amendment and Trump and all the rest of it. Yeah,

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01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,040
Speaker 1: they sure got in enough potention, but it really has

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01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:55,120
Speaker 1: been a hobby horse of mind for many, many years.

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01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 1: And that's the very first website I started in where

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Speaker 1: that where before the port Upper Software Inc. Port Watch,

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Speaker 1: And the reason it came to my attention was I

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Speaker 1: was a local editorial writer and columnist for the Seattle

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Speaker 1: Prime at the very moment when the Seattle Seahawks were growing.

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Speaker 1: A big came from because they wanted the taxpairs of

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Speaker 1: Seattle and Washington State to subsidize a brand new stadium

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Speaker 1: for them. Um. It is cases in many states across

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Speaker 1: the country that booners have said no to these kinds

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Speaker 1: of referendums, and yet these NFL station sizes have gotten

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Speaker 1: their way again and again and again, and since I

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Speaker 1: started pork Watch. It is now the case that every

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Speaker 1: year taxpayers at all levels of government, local, state, and

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Speaker 1: federal subdivide the NFL one way and another in terms

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Speaker 1: of state out constructions construction to the tune of one

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Speaker 1: billion dollars a year UM. And that's not just an

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Speaker 1: an outright um seventies explicit subidentce subsidies, but everything from

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Speaker 1: family tax EXAMPT bonds um issuances to property tax way

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Speaker 1: for um to the titles that corporate sponsors of NFL

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Speaker 1: teams test for their purchases of luxury boxes and and

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Speaker 1: tickets and naming rights on these um publicly subsidized sports palaces.

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Speaker 1: So the idea that so now the NFL constitutes a

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Speaker 1: private enterprise, and uh that President Trump has no jurisdiction

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Speaker 1: whatsoever to be loveing any kind of criticism criticism of them,

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Speaker 1: they take a critical on so many level. Buck. I

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Speaker 1: mean not only because they operate as a quasi public entity,

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Speaker 1: but also because the same people are making this argument

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Speaker 1: are the leftistm have no problem with Democrat officials who

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Speaker 1: were loll going to ban Chick fil A because the

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Speaker 1: founders health traditional value. Yeah, there's a tremendous amount of

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Speaker 1: hypocrisy that been on display here, But you know I

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Speaker 1: should and even even for Democrats, for whom I think

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01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:09,000
Speaker 1: hypocrisy is a defining characteristic. I'm seeing though that there

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Speaker 1: are talks that there will be even more NFL protests

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Speaker 1: coming up this weekend, at least that's the latest as

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Speaker 1: of today. Where do you think this is going? What's

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Speaker 1: it gonna take? Me? For NFL players realize, no, no,

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Speaker 1: if you if you do something that is a political

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Speaker 1: statement during the national anthem, you are upsetting people and

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Speaker 1: you are uh disrespecting the flag like that, that is

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Speaker 1: what you are doing. You're choosing to do that. What's

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Speaker 1: it gonna take? Yeah? Well, I think when when the

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Speaker 1: franchises and these owners really start to feel it in

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Speaker 1: your pocketbooks and domestic it's really the only language that

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Speaker 1: pay the taxpayer of votes um with regards to subsivised

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Speaker 1: these stadiums. Maybe that's what it takes. I mean, you've

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Speaker 1: got these cases where these so called public private investments

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Speaker 1: talk up billions of dollars and then you know that

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01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: the loyalty is only a one way street as soon

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Speaker 1: as the barn for a retractable roof for or more

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Speaker 1: luxury boxers, these teams are out of there, um, and

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Speaker 1: so I think that's f one aspect of it. Anotherized

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Speaker 1: I mean, clearly, uh, President Trump is not backing down,

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Speaker 1: and he made these statements today that these NFL businesses

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Speaker 1: are going to go to hell if they um keep um,

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01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:33,639
Speaker 1: essentially giving the middle finger to the mainstream of their

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Speaker 1: customer base. And um, I think that's what we write

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Speaker 1: about that. I think it's interesting that you've got all

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Speaker 1: of these gin pullers in the way media establishment um,

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01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,600
Speaker 1: who are are so consumer to deat that this is

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01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 1: an obsession for Trump. I mean, he can walk and

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Speaker 1: shoot gum at the same time he's you know, conducting

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Speaker 1: the business of the country and paying attention to cultural

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Speaker 1: touchstones that ordinary Americans care about. Big to Michelle Malkin.

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Speaker 1: She is syndicated columns host of Michelle Malkin Investigates on CRTV,

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Speaker 1: author of Culture of Corruption. Michelle, your your thoughts on

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Speaker 1: I talked about it a bit on the show, but

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Speaker 1: I wanted your your biggest takeaways or biggest takeaway on

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Speaker 1: the GOP showed down in Alabama last night where Trump

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Speaker 1: backed the wrong horse. Yeah, he's still dead and it's

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Speaker 1: It's hard for me to know exactly what kind of

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Speaker 1: of deal trading went on behind the scene for him

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Speaker 1: to have given that obviously mistaken um and ill fought

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Speaker 1: out endorsement. I mean, you did have Trump come out

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Speaker 1: today with his tax reform planning that is backed by

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Speaker 1: the establishment types, the McConnell's and Ryan's, and it was

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Speaker 1: McConnell who was the biggest force behind Luther Strange. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there's so much strangeness about UM that that entire race. Clearly,

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Speaker 1: Roy Moore is so much of a of a candidate

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Speaker 1: who supported in word indeed um much of the Trump agenda,

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Speaker 1: specifically with regard to immigration and sovereignty issues, So on

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Speaker 1: its face it makes no sense. So there there really

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Speaker 1: was something that went on behind the scenes there. I

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Speaker 1: don't know how many old trains Trump is going to

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Speaker 1: repeat this mistake though, I mean, it dates back to

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Speaker 1: his enforcements of Paul Ryant for reelection, and I've got

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Speaker 1: to think that's something that he has come to regret.

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Speaker 1: But how much more in you know, grassroots Republican donations

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Speaker 1: have to be wasted before the most who learned are

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Speaker 1: you conser Michelle that President Trump has lost lost his

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Speaker 1: way a little bit right now with regard to the agenda,

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Speaker 1: Where where do you think we are with that? Well,

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01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, of course, the signature piece of his agenda

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Speaker 1: was building the wall, and we have gotten some progress

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Speaker 1: on that that the training types that are being built

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Speaker 1: and tested in San Diego. I just came back from

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Speaker 1: the border this summer, UM, along the Arizona Mexican border. UM.

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Speaker 1: Talking with all parties involves and their unhappiness with the

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Speaker 1: pace of progress. Um. So many of these ranchers have

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01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: suffered for so long, and they have put high hopes

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Speaker 1: in the Pump administration to actually get something done. Um.

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Speaker 1: Could it be faster? Yes? UM. I still have to

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Speaker 1: remind myself every day when I wake up in the

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01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: morning that we are a lot better off than than

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Speaker 1: we would be UM with the other candidate who ran

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Speaker 1: in the place. All that said, I think, UM, I

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01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: think what we have have to happen is that graphrooms

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Speaker 1: constitutional conservatives need to have a place at the table

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Speaker 1: in the White House to avert from the kind of

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Speaker 1: of errors that we saw with the UM with the

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Speaker 1: strange more race Um, and honestly, with what's happened with

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Speaker 1: the healthcare debacle as well. Yeah, I mean co option

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01:23:59,240 --> 01:24:03,080
Speaker 1: is something that the establishment excels at. We know that, right,

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Speaker 1: If there's one thing you can count on the establishment,

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Speaker 1: you good at its saying we've got the money all

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Speaker 1: lined up for you. You know it will be better

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Speaker 1: treated in the press certainly than constitutional conservatives. Well, and

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Speaker 1: and we'll make things easier for you. And I worry

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01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 1: that with Trump that can divert him at least from

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Speaker 1: some key parts or what what he promised from the beginning. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: well we'll not us too, Like I'm always worried about that,

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Speaker 1: and I think it helps me manage my expectations every day. Um,

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Speaker 1: and do you want McConnell? Can I ask you? Do

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Speaker 1: you want McConnell? Gone? Absolutely? I once custom the loan untside,

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Speaker 1: you know, pre key party with the revolt against both

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Speaker 1: the r r SC and the n R SCC. We bad.

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Speaker 1: I used to regularly um long pictures of people who

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Speaker 1: had you know, ex out there aren't loope because they

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Speaker 1: were not giving money to escablishment Republican police song. I

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Speaker 1: think organiza SS anymore? Are they still haven't gotten the message?

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Speaker 1: I mean the replacement of these establishments products with two

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Speaker 1: constitutional conservatives has gone at a glacial pace. Um, and

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Speaker 1: you know, and I think that there's been kind of,

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Speaker 1: you know, too much placed in things that are not

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Speaker 1: ever going to happen. I mean, we've never been into

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Speaker 1: twenty side almost thirty years now that I've covered politics.

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Speaker 1: Everybody shows they want term limits, but it hasn't happened.

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Speaker 1: And so the natural term limits are at the ballot

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Speaker 1: box every here, and people are going to exercise that power.

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Speaker 1: They have nobody to blame but themselves, all right, Michelle

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Speaker 1: Malkin everybody. She is the host of Michelle Malkin Investigates

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Speaker 1: on CRTV and author of Culture of Corruption. Michelle always

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Speaker 1: appreciate you making the time, Thanks for coming by, Thanks

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Speaker 1: for on UH Team eight four four nine d buck

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Speaker 1: eight four four nine hundred to eight to five. We

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Speaker 1: will be back in just a few with probably a

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Speaker 1: little discussion about where Betsy Divorce stands in the h

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Speaker 1: where she is in the left standings of hatred for

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Speaker 1: Republican officials. This might surprise you. We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Let me just say that one sexual assault on campus

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01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,719
Speaker 1: is one too many, but one person denied do process

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01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,640
Speaker 1: is one too many, and that's really what this is

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Speaker 1: all about we We really need to get to a

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Speaker 1: point where it's fair for all students and where it

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01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:30,400
Speaker 1: is a it is clear what the processes for all students.

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01:26:30,680 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 1: There have been too many students wronged in a well

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01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:38,479
Speaker 1: intentioned attempt to ensure that this issue is not swept

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01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: under the rug and not hidden in back rooms of

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01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,600
Speaker 1: schools any longer. And we have no intention of doing that.

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01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 1: We have every intention of continuing to make sure that

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01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,599
Speaker 1: students feel safe and that they all have a fair

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01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:57,040
Speaker 1: and equal um forum in which to work through such

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Speaker 1: issues as a Now that's Betsy Devace, the Education Secretary.

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Speaker 1: The left hates her. In fact, according to a poll

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Speaker 1: in The Hill, she is the single most hated cabinet member.

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01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,960
Speaker 1: I mean, the most disliked, I should say maybe, but

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01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: they hate her. Of all of Trump's cabinet, it is

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Speaker 1: Betsy Divas. She's the one that the most respondents to

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01:27:24,479 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: this poll dislike. I should know. The General Maddis gets

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Speaker 1: the biggest approval from UH from Democrats, but Betsy Devas

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01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:41,600
Speaker 1: they absolutely despise her. You had twenty eight percent that

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01:27:41,960 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: approved of Betsy Devas, whereas disapprove of what she's doing

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Speaker 1: at the Department Education. You would think that this is

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01:27:51,560 --> 01:27:56,320
Speaker 1: a pretty non controversial position. The Obama aministration came in

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01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:59,080
Speaker 1: and was like, hey, we're gonna change a standard of

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01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:03,000
Speaker 1: proof so that you're gonna hold sexual assault tribunals on campus.

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Speaker 1: And if it's like you think he's guilty but he's not,

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01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: let's go with guilty. I mean, that's that's a short

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01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:13,040
Speaker 1: version of more or less what the obaministration was saying.

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01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:16,880
Speaker 1: That's you know, and and they had the power of

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01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,080
Speaker 1: the purse behind all this because of Title nine, they're

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01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 1: gonna cut off federal funds. Before Obama did this, there

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01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:27,040
Speaker 1: were still plenty of there's the criminal justice system for

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01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 1: sexual assaults, but it's not the case that there were

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Speaker 1: that there was a plague of sexual assaults on campus.

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Speaker 1: But this was really a legend on the left. This

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01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:44,040
Speaker 1: was created as a as a campaign of hysteria and

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01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,400
Speaker 1: it led to policy because the war on women and

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01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,599
Speaker 1: misogyny and sexism and gender identity politics are so central

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01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:56,240
Speaker 1: to the Democrats message. But I hope that Devas who

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01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,679
Speaker 1: also was recently written about for flying in private jets,

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01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: but it's her jet and she pays for it. So

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01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 1: what is what who cares, right, I mean, this is

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01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:11,360
Speaker 1: a non story story, but they were trying to create

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01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: the association in people's minds that Betsy Devas flies in

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01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,560
Speaker 1: a private jet like Tom Price. Well, no Price is

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01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:22,800
Speaker 1: having taxpayers foot the bill. That's different. But the fact

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01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,760
Speaker 1: that the left dislikes Devas so much goes to in

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01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:28,599
Speaker 1: my mind a few things. First of all, this whole

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01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:33,680
Speaker 1: campus sexual assault issue has been so polluted with politicization

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01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,880
Speaker 1: that you have people I saw I can't remember what

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01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,040
Speaker 1: was that was. One is some idiot celebrity. There's so

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01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,920
Speaker 1: many of them that are basically saying Betsy Divas and

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01:29:44,000 --> 01:29:47,520
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not exaggerating, I'm paraphrasing, but I'm not exaggerating

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01:29:47,640 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 1: that Betsy Devas is pro rape, That Betsy Devas is

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01:29:51,439 --> 01:29:55,880
Speaker 1: opposed to the rights of sexual assault victims, which is

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01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,600
Speaker 1: just a it's just a slander. I mean, it's just

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01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: a lie. It's not based in any reality whatsoever. But

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01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: this is the meme. This is the thought that gets

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01:30:07,040 --> 01:30:11,439
Speaker 1: out there. And man or were they vicious about this

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01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: divorce change because it's it's also it's another one of

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01:30:16,479 --> 01:30:18,720
Speaker 1: these endless positions that it's so easy to hold them

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01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 1: the left and think that you're some kind of a hero.

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01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,839
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, I'm opposed to you know, I'm opposed

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01:30:24,880 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 1: to sexual assault on campus. I'm a hero. We're all

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01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 1: we're all opposed to sexual assault on campus. Were kind

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01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:35,519
Speaker 1: of idiotic self congratulations. Can the left engage in here? Well,

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01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 1: the answer is a lot, unfortunately. But Divoce just restored

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01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:44,759
Speaker 1: some semblance of rights of the accused here on campus.

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01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,880
Speaker 1: She has no say over the criminal justice system. So

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01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:52,360
Speaker 1: if someone assault some someone assaults somebody else in campus sexually,

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Speaker 1: the first decision, the first call that should be made

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01:30:56,200 --> 01:31:03,160
Speaker 1: is is to local police. At the campuses are laboratories

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01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 1: for all kinds of political experiments, and the left sees

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01:31:06,040 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 1: them as such, understands them as such. And they also

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01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:15,599
Speaker 1: realized that culture is downstream from campuses, that what happens

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01:31:16,240 --> 01:31:19,719
Speaker 1: on these university campuses then filters out into corporate America,

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01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:24,080
Speaker 1: into media, into the rest of the country. And they

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01:31:24,120 --> 01:31:26,799
Speaker 1: also viewed as a training ground for the progressives of tomorrow,

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01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:32,200
Speaker 1: and so convincing people that young men have no rights.

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01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:34,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they're young men whose lives are ruined by

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01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 1: this stuff. I knew of a case. I think it

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01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:44,640
Speaker 1: was a year or two below mean school where a

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01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 1: young woman accused somebody that I knew in school of

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01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:52,519
Speaker 1: of sexually assaulting her, um of of of raping her,

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01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,599
Speaker 1: and it went all the way to course. She actually

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01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 1: went to the police and it went to trial. And

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Speaker 1: my understanding is that she recanted that she reconsidered once it,

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01:32:04,439 --> 01:32:09,080
Speaker 1: once it came to sworn testimony, she reconsidered. Now, there

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01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: could be any number of explanations for that. And you know,

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01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know what happened. I was not

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01:32:14,840 --> 01:32:16,639
Speaker 1: only was I not there, I never spoke to either

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01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 1: party about the case. I just heard it. I had graduated,

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01:32:18,880 --> 01:32:20,879
Speaker 1: but I heard about it, and I knew the individual

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01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 1: who was accused, and uh, he was a minority. And

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01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,320
Speaker 1: I should know that. Some have pointed out that this

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01:32:26,479 --> 01:32:30,720
Speaker 1: campus sexual assault guidelines that the Left is championing, which

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01:32:30,840 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: is unfair, God, which are unfair guidelines disproportionately effect therefore

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01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: disproportionately disadvantage young minority men on campus. You would think

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01:32:44,240 --> 01:32:47,599
Speaker 1: that that would get some attention, but no, it's it's all.

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01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:52,759
Speaker 1: There's all a hierarchy. And if creating a a campus

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01:32:53,160 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 1: rape hysteria is useful for the narrative building and the

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01:32:57,120 --> 01:33:00,439
Speaker 1: political purposes of the Democrat Party. If that means that

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Speaker 1: some young minority men have to have their lives, their

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01:33:03,000 --> 01:33:06,560
Speaker 1: reputations ruined, you know, make an omelet, you have to

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01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,040
Speaker 1: break a few eggs, right, That's the approach they take,

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01:33:10,240 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 1: and that that they hate di voce and this is

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01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:15,599
Speaker 1: separate from the sexual assault campus issue that they hate

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01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,760
Speaker 1: to voss so much. Is also just instructive to how

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01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:25,080
Speaker 1: much propagandizing goes into the Department of Education and the

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01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:29,880
Speaker 1: way people are taught to revere public education in this

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01:33:29,960 --> 01:33:33,400
Speaker 1: country that in so many cases fails and is failing.

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01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: But if you are a threat to that system, which

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01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: is largely a political patronage system, public schools in this

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01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:44,599
Speaker 1: country and the public sector unions of those schools are

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01:33:44,880 --> 01:33:50,400
Speaker 1: critical to the Democratic parties political prospects. That's their primary function.

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01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 1: That's the most important thing they do. It's not about

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01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: teaching kids. But that's why they have to weaponize public

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01:33:56,360 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: opinion against anybody who threatens that can roll. Anybody who

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01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:07,960
Speaker 1: would be a risk for the public school cartel has

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01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,679
Speaker 1: to be shouted down, has to be defamed, and Betsy

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01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:13,000
Speaker 1: DeVos falls in that category. Here's a nice woman who's

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01:34:13,000 --> 01:34:16,560
Speaker 1: a billionaire who wants particularly young minority children to have

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01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,360
Speaker 1: a better shot in school and have better access in school.

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01:34:19,400 --> 01:34:23,680
Speaker 1: And I hate they hate her for it tells you

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01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 1: a lot. And uh, she should wear their she should

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01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:29,880
Speaker 1: wear their disdain as a badge of honor um. But

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01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure that there are some rough days with it too.

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01:34:32,720 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: Uh we're gonna talk E m P s and then

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01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: coming up, so let's stick around for that. Oh yeah,

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01:34:38,040 --> 01:34:41,679
Speaker 1: We're we're I think we'll have former CI director Woolvesey

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01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,240
Speaker 1: on with me, So it's gonna be a former CIA

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01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:49,560
Speaker 1: to former CIAH chat you want to hear it. We

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01:34:49,640 --> 01:34:52,920
Speaker 1: got Robin North Carolina on w p T. I Hey, Rob,

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01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:57,160
Speaker 1: hey Buck, how are you? I'm good man, having fun

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01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,720
Speaker 1: here in Vegas, you know, just living life. Yeah, well

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01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:03,439
Speaker 1: you know I'm holding down up here in or down

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01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:07,240
Speaker 1: here over here in North Carolina. If I ever really

1635
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,240
Speaker 1: just tire of New York City and it's environs too much.

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01:35:10,280 --> 01:35:12,200
Speaker 1: I feel like one of the Carolinas might be where

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01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,200
Speaker 1: I have to go. So I'm a big fan. Hey

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01:35:15,360 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: where I live here in the triad. You got ski

1639
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:20,840
Speaker 1: in the mountains an hour and a half to the west.

1640
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:24,120
Speaker 1: You got the beach three three and a half hours

1641
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 1: to the east. Hey, I can't complain fair enough man.

1642
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,280
Speaker 1: So I know you've got the NFL on your mind.

1643
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 1: What's going on? Yeah, this anthem thing. I just have

1644
01:35:32,320 --> 01:35:35,080
Speaker 1: a couple of points. And my first point is, you know,

1645
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 1: I believe the kneeling stunt that was perpetrated by Colin

1646
01:35:39,400 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 1: Kaepernick when it first started, this is one of the

1647
01:35:42,120 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 1: sillier stunts that we've seen by agents of the far

1648
01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 1: left in a while. You know that he says that

1649
01:35:47,960 --> 01:35:51,240
Speaker 1: he's protesting racism, and I just don't. I don't see

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01:35:51,240 --> 01:35:53,840
Speaker 1: where that is, you know, because because from what the

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01:35:54,000 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 1: left tells me, one can't be racist without power. And

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01:35:59,360 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 1: I know of no US public or private institution with

1653
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,880
Speaker 1: power or sway that practices racism in two thousand and

1654
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:13,559
Speaker 1: seventeen America. So that's my first point. And how but however,

1655
01:36:13,680 --> 01:36:16,720
Speaker 1: though um I didn't disagree with the President on US,

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01:36:17,400 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 1: I don't think they should be fired for kneeling unless

1657
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,560
Speaker 1: their bosses send out an inner office NOMO that outlaws it.

1658
01:36:23,680 --> 01:36:26,640
Speaker 1: Because that's the bottom line. If it's okay for them

1659
01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:28,920
Speaker 1: to do in their workplace, they should be able to

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01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 1: do it because kneeling silently in public while the star

1661
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,679
Speaker 1: spingled banner is being played, no matter how silly it looks,

1662
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 1: it falls under the protection of free speech. And you

1663
01:36:39,439 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 1: know what if, well, when you say in protection of

1664
01:36:41,240 --> 01:36:43,720
Speaker 1: free speech, you understand the First Amendment doesn't protect you

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01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:48,160
Speaker 1: from your employer firing you for undesirable speech. It just

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01:36:48,240 --> 01:36:50,960
Speaker 1: protects you from the government infringing upon your speech rights.

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01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:52,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have a right to be an

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01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,040
Speaker 1: NFL player who can say whatever he wants, right, I mean,

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01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:56,680
Speaker 1: let's let me give it to you this another way.

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01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,880
Speaker 1: What if a player, What if an NFL player show

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01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:04,920
Speaker 1: it up and that player had a um, I don't know,

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01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: I had a Confederate flag cape on and and wanted

1673
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: to walk up and down the field with that before

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01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 1: each each match. Would that would that be First Amendment protected?

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01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 1: I can guarantee you that player would be fired, right,

1676
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely. But but now if I go to

1677
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: a football game and I want to walk up and

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01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,880
Speaker 1: down the aisles with a Confederate flag cape on, I'm

1679
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:31,160
Speaker 1: absolutely protected by First Amendment speech rights because I don't

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01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: work for the NFL. That's my point. Yeah, they could

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01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 1: they I mean they could if they thought you posed

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01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 1: a public uh, if you posed a hold on, hold

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01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:41,280
Speaker 1: on one second, uh, if you know it's a private venue.

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01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:42,840
Speaker 1: So they could ask you to leave, right, just like

1685
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:45,040
Speaker 1: a restaurant could if you're causing a ruckets or whatever.

1686
01:37:45,120 --> 01:37:47,680
Speaker 1: I mean, So, yeah, they can't fire you if you're

1687
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 1: not an employee. But you know, the first there's the

1688
01:37:50,680 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 1: First Amendment as as it pertains to law. Then there's

1689
01:37:54,200 --> 01:37:57,000
Speaker 1: the concept of free speech. And people are trying to

1690
01:37:57,120 --> 01:37:59,360
Speaker 1: blend the two for their own purposes right now. But

1691
01:37:59,439 --> 01:38:03,560
Speaker 1: but it's not the same thing. You understand that you

1692
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:05,240
Speaker 1: you got the distinction I'm making, right, I mean, I

1693
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 1: feel like the Confederate flag issue, Yeah, I think because

1694
01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:12,000
Speaker 1: I think I'm making that point. I think that if

1695
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:15,320
Speaker 1: if the if the NFL says niland during the Star

1696
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: Spangled Banner is detrimental to the conduct of a football player,

1697
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:21,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna be in trouble if you do it, and

1698
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:24,040
Speaker 1: they do it and they get fired, I'm cool with

1699
01:38:24,160 --> 01:38:28,120
Speaker 1: that if they're breaking their their workplace rules and by kneeling,

1700
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,000
Speaker 1: because you know, the part of the product that the

1701
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,360
Speaker 1: NFL puts out is the display of the colors and

1702
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,439
Speaker 1: the Star Spangled banner, and if they want those guys

1703
01:38:34,479 --> 01:38:36,800
Speaker 1: standing them up with to attention with hands on their heart,

1704
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,280
Speaker 1: and one of them doesn't do it, then they should,

1705
01:38:39,640 --> 01:38:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, be subject to the punishment as Okay, so

1706
01:38:43,080 --> 01:38:44,880
Speaker 1: you so you're saying that they but so you're saying

1707
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: they don't have a first I mean they have a

1708
01:38:46,360 --> 01:38:48,160
Speaker 1: first inment right in terms of the government, but not

1709
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 1: in terms of their employer. That's exactly what I'm saying. Well,

1710
01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:55,920
Speaker 1: that's correct, So there we go. Good if then yeah,

1711
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 1: if the NFL guys, if the you know, Roger Goodell

1712
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:00,760
Speaker 1: or whoever is the commissioner says hey, if y'all want

1713
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 1: to kneel during the Star Spangled banner, good for it. Cool,

1714
01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:07,439
Speaker 1: which apparently this lay last weekend. They let them. So,

1715
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 1: I mean that's I think that they should be allowed

1716
01:39:10,640 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 1: to do that as long as their bosses are okay

1717
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,920
Speaker 1: with them doing it. That's that's my point. Oh yeah, sure,

1718
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:18,960
Speaker 1: I just I don't. I don't. I think it's a

1719
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:21,519
Speaker 1: bad business decision for their bosses to allow them to

1720
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:25,120
Speaker 1: do it, and I also think it's dishonest for the ends.

1721
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: It's dishonest for the NFL to pretend that they don't

1722
01:39:29,160 --> 01:39:31,559
Speaker 1: make these kinds of distinctions in other errors. I mean,

1723
01:39:31,600 --> 01:39:35,240
Speaker 1: the most uh, the most powerful example is when it

1724
01:39:35,360 --> 01:39:38,920
Speaker 1: came to wearing decals on on helmets after the slaughter

1725
01:39:39,040 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: of over the five police officers by that deranged madman

1726
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:45,080
Speaker 1: who was inspired by the rhetoric of black Lives Matter

1727
01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,519
Speaker 1: in Dallas. Uh, they weren't allowing the Dallas Cowboys to

1728
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,559
Speaker 1: honor those officers and law enforcement, you know, because they

1729
01:39:51,600 --> 01:39:54,120
Speaker 1: said no. So so they draw those lines, and the

1730
01:39:54,200 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 1: fact that they're not drawing that line here is very instructive.

1731
01:39:58,040 --> 01:40:01,120
Speaker 1: I think of where the NFL is right now. Well,

1732
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:03,519
Speaker 1: and you know, and it's all, well, it's all a

1733
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:08,120
Speaker 1: business decision. And if their business decision causes their product

1734
01:40:08,240 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: not to be bought in the marketplace as much as

1735
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: it was in the past, then you know, they'll have

1736
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:16,320
Speaker 1: to that's a road they're gonna have to, hope. But

1737
01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,479
Speaker 1: I just I just think that we you know, like

1738
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:22,559
Speaker 1: with Trump before Friday, you had like four or five

1739
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,599
Speaker 1: knuckleheads that were basically doing their Neil thing or whatever,

1740
01:40:26,160 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 1: and the story was, yeah, you're you gonna say he's

1741
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:31,240
Speaker 1: made it, He's made it much much worse. He's thrown

1742
01:40:31,280 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: gasoline on the fire, so to speak, because I was

1743
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: gasoline on the fire. You got the whole lead to mealing.

1744
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:38,679
Speaker 1: But what's these But what is Trump trying it? Yeah?

1745
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:43,000
Speaker 1: I get it, But what's Trump trying to uh show here?

1746
01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:46,880
Speaker 1: What's the purpose of him saying this? It's not he

1747
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:48,840
Speaker 1: doesn't care what happens with the NFL one or the other.

1748
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:55,680
Speaker 1: This makes this exposes a mentality that exists not just

1749
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,880
Speaker 1: in the NFL, but is very prevalent in media, very

1750
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:02,560
Speaker 1: prevalent in the Democrat Party that you know, anything that

1751
01:41:02,640 --> 01:41:05,880
Speaker 1: you want to do to quote, raise awareness end quote,

1752
01:41:05,880 --> 01:41:09,759
Speaker 1: which is the very malleable and I think abused phrase.

1753
01:41:10,120 --> 01:41:13,000
Speaker 1: But anything you want to do to raise awareness. Yeah,

1754
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 1: I hate it too because it's it's an excuse. It's

1755
01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:16,479
Speaker 1: just an excuse. R R, thank you very much for

1756
01:41:16,560 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: calling my friend from North Carolina to appreciate it. It's

1757
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,760
Speaker 1: an excuse that. This is why raising awareness is the

1758
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:25,760
Speaker 1: go to response, because you can excuse anything that you do,

1759
01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:28,160
Speaker 1: really if you're just raising awareness about it. Right. This

1760
01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:31,960
Speaker 1: is why when someone makes a false a false claim,

1761
01:41:32,000 --> 01:41:35,040
Speaker 1: a false police report, even of of an assault because

1762
01:41:35,080 --> 01:41:37,640
Speaker 1: of anti Muslim bias or you know we've had some

1763
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:39,439
Speaker 1: of these. Right. Oh he came up to me and

1764
01:41:39,880 --> 01:41:42,679
Speaker 1: yelled mean anti Muslim stuff and ripped my head job off.

1765
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 1: Oh no, actually I was lying about that. Oh, but

1766
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,840
Speaker 1: I was raising awareness with my line, and everyone goes, Okay,

1767
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:52,600
Speaker 1: that's that's fine. You know this, people are trying to

1768
01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:57,320
Speaker 1: play games here. Kaepernick was taking a knee because of

1769
01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 1: the oppression of minorities in this country at the hands

1770
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 1: of police officers, and specifically the police officers are killing

1771
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:06,000
Speaker 1: young black men without calls. That's what started the whole thing.

1772
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:09,800
Speaker 1: And he chose the anthem because it was gonna get

1773
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,000
Speaker 1: a lot of attention because he was disrespecting the anthem.

1774
01:42:12,040 --> 01:42:14,320
Speaker 1: That's the whole point, right, This wouldn't be you know,

1775
01:42:14,439 --> 01:42:18,360
Speaker 1: if I walked into someone's wedding and picked a fight

1776
01:42:18,439 --> 01:42:21,120
Speaker 1: with them right before they said I do about how

1777
01:42:21,200 --> 01:42:23,160
Speaker 1: they owe me a hundred bucks from you know, ten

1778
01:42:23,240 --> 01:42:25,760
Speaker 1: years ago. Don't tell me that I'm not doing it

1779
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,679
Speaker 1: at their wedding because I'm trying to I'm not trying

1780
01:42:27,720 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 1: to embarrass them, of course I am, right, So that's

1781
01:42:31,439 --> 01:42:33,320
Speaker 1: we can all be adults about this. I mean, the

1782
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:36,599
Speaker 1: choice of the timing here is everything. The timing is everything,

1783
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:42,080
Speaker 1: and that there's this effort to try and uh, you know,

1784
01:42:42,160 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 1: muddy muddy the waters here to make this more Oh well,

1785
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:47,760
Speaker 1: you know it's not about disrespecting the flyer. Just well,

1786
01:42:48,320 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 1: what's it about? How much? How much you love the anthem?

1787
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:54,120
Speaker 1: So you you make a spectacle of yourself. I don't

1788
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:56,240
Speaker 1: think so. I don't think. I'm not buying it. I'm

1789
01:42:56,280 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 1: just not buying it. But as to whether this is

1790
01:42:58,760 --> 01:43:00,800
Speaker 1: a good idea for Trump or that's a that's an

1791
01:43:00,840 --> 01:43:05,679
Speaker 1: interesting um interesting point on this um. As to whether

1792
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:07,360
Speaker 1: or not it's a good idea, I would say that

1793
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 1: it depends on what you're trying if your Trump, depends

1794
01:43:10,439 --> 01:43:13,240
Speaker 1: on what you're trying to accomplish. I think that this

1795
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 1: I think for Trump's based This plays well all day.

1796
01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 1: Look at plays well with me. I want to know

1797
01:43:20,200 --> 01:43:22,479
Speaker 1: who thinks that this is appropriate Forget about just the

1798
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:25,600
Speaker 1: NFL players, I want to see who defends this, not

1799
01:43:25,840 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 1: only defend the right to do it under the First Amendment. No, no, no, no.

1800
01:43:29,479 --> 01:43:31,519
Speaker 1: What do you think of the wisdom of this? That's

1801
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:36,000
Speaker 1: the real question. What do you think of the um?

1802
01:43:37,800 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 1: What do you think of the decision to do it?

1803
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:44,840
Speaker 1: By those who are involved. So there we have it. Uh,

1804
01:43:45,600 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: all right, we've got Ambassador Wolvesey on the line. Here

1805
01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:51,160
Speaker 1: is a former director of the c I a UM.

1806
01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,040
Speaker 1: Let's let's bring him in. Ambassador Wolsey, thank you so much.

1807
01:43:54,040 --> 01:43:55,519
Speaker 1: You've only got a few minutes here. But tell me

1808
01:43:55,600 --> 01:44:00,200
Speaker 1: about the e MP threat in North Korea. Well, if

1809
01:44:00,280 --> 01:44:05,800
Speaker 1: you detonate a nuclear weapon up the altitude were lower

1810
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:11,560
Speaker 1: satellites orbit uh ten d three hundred miles uh, it

1811
01:44:12,200 --> 01:44:21,639
Speaker 1: creates a gamma rays and magnetized of essentially radio waves

1812
01:44:21,840 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 1: from the Sun, just like the ones that come from

1813
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:28,320
Speaker 1: the Sun occasionally on naturally. But you can do it

1814
01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 1: on purpose. And if you do that, you can effectively

1815
01:44:32,280 --> 01:44:36,760
Speaker 1: knock out the electricity grid underneath where that satellite has

1816
01:44:37,200 --> 01:44:41,040
Speaker 1: been detonated with a nuclear weapon in it. And we've

1817
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 1: seen in Puerto Rico what life is like without an

1818
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 1: electricity grid. Uh. It's hideous. And virtually everything else depends

1819
01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:55,400
Speaker 1: on electricity. So it's not just that you have to

1820
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:59,919
Speaker 1: go down to the corner gas station and get gasoline

1821
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:06,000
Speaker 1: for your in order to run your some appliance. Uh.

1822
01:45:06,200 --> 01:45:10,920
Speaker 1: You get there and you find out that there's no gasoline,

1823
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,960
Speaker 1: and that means that there's no electricity because the pumps

1824
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 1: all run on gasoline. Uh, you can't. You can't run

1825
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:23,880
Speaker 1: the hospitals. Uh, you can't. People can't get the clean

1826
01:45:23,960 --> 01:45:29,320
Speaker 1: water to drink. It's a hideous situation, and we're seeing

1827
01:45:30,120 --> 01:45:34,800
Speaker 1: a version of it in Puerto Rico right now. Now.

1828
01:45:34,840 --> 01:45:37,920
Speaker 1: How could we protect ourselves specifically from North Korea on

1829
01:45:38,000 --> 01:45:39,960
Speaker 1: this front? I'm assuming missile defense has to play a

1830
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:45,120
Speaker 1: large role. Well, one can shoot down the missiles that

1831
01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:48,960
Speaker 1: they would maybe shoot at us, but it's hard to

1832
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 1: shoot down the satellites if they launched the satellites to

1833
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:57,640
Speaker 1: the south. We're we've got all our planning done for

1834
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:02,200
Speaker 1: our military to defend a against uh launches of missiles

1835
01:46:02,280 --> 01:46:06,200
Speaker 1: or anything else Uh that comes at us from the north.

1836
01:46:07,120 --> 01:46:10,120
Speaker 1: But if somebody turns that around and says, hey, why

1837
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:12,160
Speaker 1: don't we launch to the south? Will come up at

1838
01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:18,640
Speaker 1: the Americans from Brazil and UH and Antarctica and so forth. Uh,

1839
01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:22,320
Speaker 1: there's not a lot that our current systems can do

1840
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,160
Speaker 1: to deal with that. We'd have to put some time

1841
01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 1: and effort into defending against those types of problems. Now,

1842
01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:33,760
Speaker 1: I mean, there's a piece here in the hill. North

1843
01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:37,680
Speaker 1: Korea could kill up then of Americans through an e

1844
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: MP attack. And mean, is that where are we getting

1845
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:43,320
Speaker 1: these estimates? That's uh, that's from the e m P

1846
01:46:43,520 --> 01:46:48,920
Speaker 1: Commission that some bad guys on Capitol Hill are just

1847
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:52,360
Speaker 1: about to try to close down. But it's the it's

1848
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,960
Speaker 1: been operating for close to fifteen years, and it's about

1849
01:46:55,000 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 1: the only institution in the country that seriously looked at

1850
01:46:57,880 --> 01:47:01,120
Speaker 1: the MP and studied it. And it has a very

1851
01:47:01,360 --> 01:47:06,400
Speaker 1: very distinguished scientists on it's chaired by Bill Graham, who

1852
01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:09,800
Speaker 1: was President Reagan Science Advisor and has several others. The

1853
01:47:09,840 --> 01:47:13,560
Speaker 1: Little Wood was one of the real fathers of the

1854
01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:17,360
Speaker 1: H bomb. That it has very very smart enabled people

1855
01:47:17,400 --> 01:47:23,640
Speaker 1: on it. And uh that they reported out in an

1856
01:47:23,680 --> 01:47:27,080
Speaker 1: interim report about ten years ago that said, essentially, the

1857
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:30,680
Speaker 1: average estimate for the number of people that would die

1858
01:47:30,760 --> 01:47:34,599
Speaker 1: within the first year was two thirds of the American

1859
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:39,960
Speaker 1: population and the pessimistic h estimate would be a ninety

1860
01:47:40,040 --> 01:47:42,400
Speaker 1: percent would die within the first year. I mean, keep

1861
01:47:42,439 --> 01:47:45,320
Speaker 1: in mind, you're talking about social disruption here as well

1862
01:47:45,560 --> 01:47:49,960
Speaker 1: as hospitals closing down, nobody getting the kind of medicine

1863
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 1: they need, UH, water not being pure, food not being available, Uh,

1864
01:47:55,880 --> 01:48:00,479
Speaker 1: it's it's that that world. We're speaking to a director

1865
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:05,000
Speaker 1: of the Central Intelligence Agency, Ambassador James Woolsey about electromagnetic

1866
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:10,320
Speaker 1: pulse weapons Ambassador Woolsey. Uh by the ambassador or director,

1867
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:12,680
Speaker 1: because you know, as a former agency guy, I feel like,

1868
01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: you know, i'd go director. Yeah. Well it's some kind

1869
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 1: of a technically of the State Department that the title

1870
01:48:18,120 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 1: is supposedly last as the ambassador one. But it didn't matter,

1871
01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:24,280
Speaker 1: Jim no I I just you know, I get more

1872
01:48:24,320 --> 01:48:26,240
Speaker 1: excited about the director of the agency, part of course

1873
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:28,479
Speaker 1: because of where I come from. But anyway, UM, I

1874
01:48:28,600 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 1: want to just ask you though, in terms of the

1875
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:34,000
Speaker 1: science here on e MPs, is there dispute about whether

1876
01:48:34,120 --> 01:48:37,640
Speaker 1: this could even be done or is the dispute that

1877
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:41,680
Speaker 1: people don't have the capability yet. There's a dispute, but

1878
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,760
Speaker 1: it's a dispute between people who know the science and

1879
01:48:45,720 --> 01:48:48,920
Speaker 1: these areas that are national have national reputations. People like

1880
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:53,280
Speaker 1: Bill Graham and Lowell would on the one hand, versus

1881
01:48:53,600 --> 01:48:57,599
Speaker 1: people like they did on NPR a few weeks ago,

1882
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:01,960
Speaker 1: basically just kind of funny noises because they don't have

1883
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:07,240
Speaker 1: any arguments, they don't have any real reason why they

1884
01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:10,080
Speaker 1: don't believe this uh could be done by say the

1885
01:49:10,160 --> 01:49:14,840
Speaker 1: Iranians or the North Koreans. Uh, but they want to

1886
01:49:14,880 --> 01:49:18,599
Speaker 1: make themselves look silly. I guess UH. There are one

1887
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:22,599
Speaker 1: or two people who who are distinguished scientists and who

1888
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:26,040
Speaker 1: say this may be hard to do, the detonation may

1889
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:28,880
Speaker 1: not occur at exactly the right altitude in order to

1890
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:33,120
Speaker 1: do the kind of a number of gamma rays you need, etcetera, etcetera.

1891
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:36,680
Speaker 1: But the preponderance of the beliefs of the people who

1892
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Speaker 1: know this business uh uh is very strongly that it's

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01:49:40,920 --> 01:49:44,479
Speaker 1: extremely dangerous and risking. One more for your ambassador wills

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Speaker 1: before we let you go. Uh, you saw a lot

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01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:50,320
Speaker 1: of stuff at Langley obviously, and also in your time

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01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:55,519
Speaker 1: your time with with States as ambassador, UM, tell me

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Speaker 1: a bit about how how concerned you are right now

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Speaker 1: about North Korea. Well, I'm very concerned because the state

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Speaker 1: of mind of Kim Jong uh. And I must say also,

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Speaker 1: I really think Teddy Roosevelt had a right to speak

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Speaker 1: softly and carry a big stick, and in our our president,

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Speaker 1: whereas he is responding to Kim Jong n, I think

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Speaker 1: he is not speaking softly and carrying a big stick.

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Speaker 1: I think it would be better if they speak a

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Speaker 1: little a little more softly. But because you're not gonna

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01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:38,960
Speaker 1: get anywhere uh insulting back and forth. If you want

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Speaker 1: to keep get this to work and get toned down

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Speaker 1: without somebody accidentally or on purpose using a nuclear weapon,

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Speaker 1: you've got to have some discussions and some sensible uh

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Speaker 1: folks representing us, and then maybe we can find somebody

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Speaker 1: to represent them and get together and start talking about

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Speaker 1: it a little bit. We can't to succeed uh just

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Speaker 1: by them insulting us and then US president doing a

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Speaker 1: better job. I think of insulting them, but uh, and

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Speaker 1: that's not going to keep this from using nukes. We

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Speaker 1: had probably we've got. Unfortunately, we're literally running up against

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Speaker 1: the clock. We gotta leave it there. But former CI

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Speaker 1: director UH, James Wilson, thank you so much for your time.

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Speaker 1: So we appreciate it. Great to be with you. A

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Speaker 1: team will be right back, all right, team, I've gotta go,

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Speaker 1: uh hang out in Vegas because I'm down here for

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Speaker 1: a few days, so I've got to make that happen. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I even have a whole lot of

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Speaker 1: time here to tell you about Vegas, although I did

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Speaker 1: have a delay on my Delta flatten the way down,

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Speaker 1: and I now I like to let Delta know when

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Speaker 1: they let me down, which is which seems to be frequently.

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Speaker 1: There's a problem. What did I what did I tell

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Speaker 1: them today? Something about how um Delta, if the Soviet

1930
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Speaker 1: Union were still around, Delta Airlines would be its official airline. Um.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they responded to me. They said thanks for

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Speaker 1: the feedback or something like that. Oh yeah, they had

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Speaker 1: a nice big delay for maintenance. Please download the podcast

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Speaker 1: buck Sex with America now on iTunes and I'll be

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Speaker 1: back with you tomorrow and the next day here on

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Hunt or the Vegas edition of the Freedom

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Speaker 1: of Las Vegas. Vegas. Baby, very much enjoying my time here,

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Speaker 1: so thank you as always for tune in hanging out

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Speaker 1: with me. Appreciated. I am going to go and uh

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Speaker 1: win a whole bundle of money gambling, except that's not

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Speaker 1: true because I don't gamble, so I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go eat some yummy food.

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Speaker 1: I'll be hanging with you tomorrow. Until then, as always,

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Speaker 1: my friends, Shields Hig