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Speaker 1: things are not trending so upwards right now for the
Speaker 1: New York Jets. As now, the Jets are on a
Speaker 1: three game slide three game slide for the second time
Speaker 1: this year, but this is the first time in two
Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen that the Jets are three games under
Speaker 1: because they're one that first game against the Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: followed by a three game losing streak to finish the
Speaker 1: first quarter of this season. But yeah, you're right, facing
Speaker 1: a lot of adversity right now. This team a very
Speaker 1: winnable game against the Miami Dolphins, and the defense put
Speaker 1: them in position to win the game. But as you
Speaker 1: might have anticipated prior to the season, the offense is
Speaker 1: gonna go through some ups and downs, and Sunday was
Speaker 1: was a down. The Caruci joins the pod this week.
Speaker 1: That's the guy, that guy up in Buffalo People on Buffalo.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you like me Greens
Speaker 1: at all, but people on People on Buffalo, Um, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of good people back in the seven ones
Speaker 1: six and Vic I used to read him when I
Speaker 1: was a kid, well before we could get all the
Speaker 1: information on our phones, and you were playing on Instagram, Greens,
Speaker 1: I was playing on Instagram. I used to that even
Speaker 1: the right terminology going through, going through, scrolling, scrolling through
Speaker 1: Instagram the same thing. Come on, playing Instagram. It sounds
Speaker 1: like a game. It is a game. I don't think
Speaker 1: a lot of time people are they're going through it
Speaker 1: for entertainment. No. Yeah, okay, you're consuming Instagram, bro, but
Speaker 1: that's not playing. By the way. By the way, people
Speaker 1: can find you on Instagram. Yes, I've heard about that.
Speaker 1: I've heard about some of your posts. Actually, yeah, so
Speaker 1: I used to when I was a kid. Uh, I
Speaker 1: would be excited for the newspaper to come out because
Speaker 1: this is how much of a sports junkie I was.
Speaker 1: That the newspaper used to be delivering around two thirty
Speaker 1: three o'clock, so right and run you got home from
Speaker 1: school and I'd always run out there to read the paper.
Speaker 1: And Kruschi covered the Bills at the time, as he
Speaker 1: still does. Uh, he's one of the best in the business.
Speaker 1: He's a great man. Uh, somebody I look up to
Speaker 1: when I'm proud to girlfriend Vic Tara. He has great
Speaker 1: stuff to say always. He was on the pod last year,
Speaker 1: great stuff. He's on the pod this year. He had
Speaker 1: great stuff. He talks about the Bill's quarterbacks with Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, Derek Anderson. If Josh Allen could be set
Speaker 1: to make his return from an elbow injury against the
Speaker 1: Jets this week, there's a whole lot that we dove
Speaker 1: into with Vick. Can you believe that the Bills are
Speaker 1: everything less than a touchdown a game? No, but I can't.
Speaker 1: What I can't believe more so than that, or what
Speaker 1: I find is shocking. And we talked about this with Vick,
Speaker 1: is that the Bills offensively are historically bad, but the
Speaker 1: defense is third in the league. They don't give up money, earths,
Speaker 1: it's a good defense. It's it's funny to look at.
Speaker 1: And this is something well we touched upon with Vic
Speaker 1: is that you kind of look at these teams and
Speaker 1: I think the Jets are definitely further along offensively, and
Speaker 1: the numbers indicate that. But there are similarities with these teams.
Speaker 1: The Jets they have played uh, pretty good defense, and
Speaker 1: then they have the ability to take a couple steps
Speaker 1: I think here in the future. UM offensively, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes the McGrain on the ground been very inconsistent on
Speaker 1: the ground, and the passing game of late has taken
Speaker 1: a step back. Um with a rookie quarterback and Sam Donald,
Speaker 1: but the Jets think they had their quarterback in the
Speaker 1: future and the Bills they moved up in the draft
Speaker 1: four picks after the Jets selected Sam Donald out the
Speaker 1: USC The Bills take Josh Allen at number seven overall,
Speaker 1: but as Vic will eloquently put, I don't think anybody
Speaker 1: in Buffalo understood how bad that offense was going to
Speaker 1: be throughout this year. The one anomaly was what they
Speaker 1: did to Minnesota, which when you look back at the
Speaker 1: NFL season, he will be like, how did that happen?
Speaker 1: Not to mention it was in Minnesota where the Buffalo
Speaker 1: just beat him down. But the one thing is if
Speaker 1: Allen does play, is you have to account for him
Speaker 1: as a runner, and that's nothing Peterman, who you know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of jokes going around and you almost
Speaker 1: feel bad for the guy. I have some kind of
Speaker 1: empathy for him right now because he's seems like he's
Speaker 1: walking pick six. And then Derrick Anderson is the thirty
Speaker 1: five year old journeyman who's well respected. But the guy
Speaker 1: didn't play all year. He came off his couch, like
Speaker 1: Vic will say, and he's in the starting lineup. They
Speaker 1: don't have anything to go to offensively. I still think
Speaker 1: McCoy is a great player, but he can't get anything
Speaker 1: going on the ground. Uh, this is a game on paper.
Speaker 1: The Jets really should be able to dictate on their
Speaker 1: terms defensively at least, all right without further ado. You know,
Speaker 1: we broke down the Bills a little bit by What
Speaker 1: better person to hear from there, Vick Carucci. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go back to EA's old stomping ground, the seven s.
Speaker 1: We're gonna bring in a friend of the pod, that
Speaker 1: is Vick Carucci. Vic, thanks so much for coming on
Speaker 1: the Official Jets Podcast. My pleasure, guys. Vick. What's going
Speaker 1: on in Buffalo right now? With that offense? Uh? Was
Speaker 1: this part of the plan as far as they knew
Speaker 1: they were gonna take a step back. I know you're
Speaker 1: never envisioned your rookie quarterback getting hurt, But did they
Speaker 1: ever imagine that this Bill's offense would be so anemic? Well?
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that that that's what they believed at
Speaker 1: any point, that the offense would be historically bad. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're on a pace to score the fewest points in
Speaker 1: the history of a franchise that's been around since nineteen sixty.
Speaker 1: So there's no way that that crossed the mind of
Speaker 1: the of the leadership of this football team in any way. Now,
Speaker 1: as far as the stepping back, I think that it's
Speaker 1: a separate topic, guys, because yes, they made the playoffs
Speaker 1: last year as a nine and seven team, but they
Speaker 1: also backed in. I mean, they had a lot of
Speaker 1: help to do that, and I think in many ways
Speaker 1: it was sort of miraculous, given how the Bengals beat
Speaker 1: the Ravens in that final game after Buffalo won at Miami. Um,
Speaker 1: and it created some excitement and and the fan base was,
Speaker 1: you know, was thrilled to have a seventeen year playoff
Speaker 1: drought end. But uh, it definitely did not set the
Speaker 1: stage for the feeling of of continued playoffs success. That's
Speaker 1: not to say that they hopeful that that they'd be
Speaker 1: even better this year, but the reality was with so
Speaker 1: much change, including the quarterback position, Um, there there was
Speaker 1: there was more reason to believe they were gonna go backwards.
Speaker 1: I just don't think they ever expected the backward move
Speaker 1: to be as extreme as it has so far. Well,
Speaker 1: why is offense so bad? I know, Brian dave Ball,
Speaker 1: he was a member of the Jets staff back in
Speaker 1: the day with Eric Mangini. He knows what he's doing. Um,
Speaker 1: is it the offensive line? Is it the quarterback play?
Speaker 1: Is it the wide receivers. Is is it the tight ends.
Speaker 1: There's a combination of everything. Because I look on the
Speaker 1: outside and Kelvin Benjamin z A Jones, they're not producing.
Speaker 1: Um Shady McCoy is having probably the toughest rushing UH
Speaker 1: season of his career. The offensive line seems like they
Speaker 1: got a lot of backups who who are playing starting
Speaker 1: roles right now? What do you pinpoint here? You've you've
Speaker 1: just listed at all. I mean, I'm I'm I don't
Speaker 1: want to be lazy with my answer and say all
Speaker 1: of the above, but that is what it is. Every
Speaker 1: single thing you could you could check off those boxes
Speaker 1: and say that those have contributed to the struggles of
Speaker 1: this offense. And uh, you know, the injury to Josh Allen,
Speaker 1: the seventh overall pick, a guy that made five starts
Speaker 1: and a guy that there uh that they're thinking is
Speaker 1: their future at quarterback. The way the Jets are with
Speaker 1: Sam Donald, I think the feeling, UH is that, first
Speaker 1: of all, he has struggled as much as anyone else,
Speaker 1: uh in most of his games. He had a nice
Speaker 1: performance against Minnesota, and still it was you know, limited
Speaker 1: sort of snapshots of successful place versus a dominant showing.
Speaker 1: But it was the one thing that this offense, the
Speaker 1: only thing that this offense has really been able to
Speaker 1: hang its hat on overall. Um, Yeah, they they need
Speaker 1: they need more, they need better players, they need upgrades
Speaker 1: pretty much everywhere. Uh. And on offense again on the
Speaker 1: assumption that Alan is the answer at quarterback. Um, he
Speaker 1: also wasn't expected to play at least by them as
Speaker 1: much as he even did before getting hurt. Uh. They
Speaker 1: went into the year uh expecting to have a bridge
Speaker 1: guy play for four or five games. They identified that
Speaker 1: guy as Nathan Peterman. Uh. It backfired horribly on them
Speaker 1: with his four showing at Baltimore. And then they were
Speaker 1: stuck because they had traded a J. McCarron to the
Speaker 1: Raiders and they were in a hole. They they they
Speaker 1: had to kind of you know, grope around and find
Speaker 1: something and found uh, Derrick Anderson off his couch Basically, Hey,
Speaker 1: I want to get to the couch. And he was comfortable,
Speaker 1: but they gave him a million plus reasons to get
Speaker 1: off the couch. And but to really be the mentor
Speaker 1: for for Alan, he wasn't even brought into play and
Speaker 1: and that should tell you something too. And then he
Speaker 1: ends up playing and and of course you get the
Speaker 1: kind of performance that a thirty five year old journeyman
Speaker 1: backup is going to give you who hasn't had any
Speaker 1: offseason work. So between that and and most of Peterman's struggles,
Speaker 1: which has been pretty much every time he's been on
Speaker 1: the field, um, that's contributed. But like you said, the
Speaker 1: receiving corps is woefully below par. I mean, I can
Speaker 1: tell you right now there isn't a guy I'd probably
Speaker 1: keep in that core for next year. I'd I'd replace
Speaker 1: them all, and that includes a Jones. I don't see
Speaker 1: much in any of those guys that's worth retaining. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, the old line definitely needs to make over.
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of work guys. And and yes,
Speaker 1: Brian dave Ball is getting a lot of heat too
Speaker 1: from fans, uh for you know, not being creative enough
Speaker 1: or not doing the right things. I'm not entirely sure
Speaker 1: what Brian can or any coordinator can do with what
Speaker 1: this offense offers. But everybody is being piled into the
Speaker 1: to the heap, if you will. Given the quarterback carousel
Speaker 1: per se that's been under center for the building, who
Speaker 1: do you think starts this Sunday against the Jets. That's
Speaker 1: a good question. We're gonna hopefully, we're gonna hopefully find
Speaker 1: out more about that. Um today, We're gonna have a
Speaker 1: conversation with h the head coach later today and he'll
Speaker 1: he'll Uh, I don't know if he's gonna totally shed
Speaker 1: light on it, guys, frankly, but um, he did say
Speaker 1: on Monday that Josh Allen, you know, is throwing. UM.
Speaker 1: I think he said upwards of a hundred passes and
Speaker 1: practice over the weekend. So he thinks he's got him
Speaker 1: back on pace to be ready. And I think if
Speaker 1: the medical he said he would defer to the medical people,
Speaker 1: if they said that that elbow, the sprained elbow that
Speaker 1: he had on his right throwing arm, H is working
Speaker 1: well enough and he gets the clearance, then I think
Speaker 1: it's all systems go and that he will be back
Speaker 1: in the starting lineup. Vick, what do you make of
Speaker 1: Allen and the limited sample size that you've seen of him?
Speaker 1: Obviously we knew he was gonna be a little bit
Speaker 1: raw coming out of Wyoming. And if the Jets face
Speaker 1: Josh Allen this week, uh, what kind of deef? What
Speaker 1: kind of problems. Could this defense post for the Bills? Yeah,
Speaker 1: well what were you know, certainly if if Alan um,
Speaker 1: if Alan does start, uh, you still have a rookie
Speaker 1: and you still have the mistakes that go with playing
Speaker 1: the position, and on top of that coming back from
Speaker 1: being away for several weeks. So uh, I think there's
Speaker 1: some hope on the there's a lot of hope on
Speaker 1: the part of the Bills that him watching and and
Speaker 1: and absorbing learning will contribute to a better effort once
Speaker 1: he's back on the field. But you know, we'll see. Um.
Speaker 1: The other thing is uh, athletically, I mean, I liked
Speaker 1: the guy coming out. I I didn't you know, I
Speaker 1: wasn't all that troubled by as many others were about
Speaker 1: the accuracy problems and the and just the maybe the
Speaker 1: lack of development that might have been there playing at Wyoming. UM.
Speaker 1: I know he had problems with footwork, and Jordan Palmer,
Speaker 1: the quarterback guru, worked with him on that extensively, and
Speaker 1: and from what I understand, the Bills, you know, we're
Speaker 1: also doing the same things with him, uh, as far
Speaker 1: as focusing on not over striding, which led to him
Speaker 1: you know, led to some of his accuracy problems. But
Speaker 1: more than that, too is how I think, you know,
Speaker 1: his understanding of the Bill's offense is fine. He's absorbed that,
Speaker 1: he's he's a smart play here. The question is how
Speaker 1: well does he read? How quickly does he react? And
Speaker 1: and I think that you know, getting rid of the
Speaker 1: ball on time, and and you know, getting the field
Speaker 1: for what the defense is adjusting to, how they're trying
Speaker 1: to pool him with disguising coverages all that. Those are
Speaker 1: the things obviously, and again you're you're watching that there
Speaker 1: with Sam Donald. Those are the things that present problems.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good storyline this week because these
Speaker 1: guys grew close in the spring, didn't they Vic because
Speaker 1: you just mounted Jordan Palmer. They both actually lived with
Speaker 1: Jordan for a period of time and got ready for
Speaker 1: the draft exactly. And you know, I I've talked with
Speaker 1: Jordan's multiple times in the uh this well yeah, before
Speaker 1: the season and then early in the season about Josh.
Speaker 1: But in in those conversations he brought up Sam and
Speaker 1: and his close you know ties there with all of
Speaker 1: his pupils and clients and and uh and and how
Speaker 1: much you know, how how confident I think he believes
Speaker 1: that this group of quarterbacks not naturally the guy that
Speaker 1: he's working with, he's gonna pump him up. You know.
Speaker 1: I I hear what he says, and it sounds it
Speaker 1: sounds plausible to think that there is a new you know,
Speaker 1: there will be new faces in the a f C East,
Speaker 1: especially that that will have longer runs. What I don't know, guys,
Speaker 1: is you know what we're gonna see this year. But
Speaker 1: I will say this, A two and seven Buffalo team,
Speaker 1: um that that has just been horrific to watch the
Speaker 1: Jets who have had their problems and struggling. Uh, this
Speaker 1: is the kind of game where you know, you really
Speaker 1: hope these two young quarterbacks are facing off because that
Speaker 1: would frankly give it um any any level of interest
Speaker 1: of making it interesting. I think, yeah, that's fair. And
Speaker 1: the Bill has got a major overhaul on their hands
Speaker 1: in terms of the offense and off season to get
Speaker 1: some pieces around A four Munch and Josh Allen. What
Speaker 1: are on McDermott and Leslie Fraser gonna dial up against
Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback who is and during his bumps in
Speaker 1: the road right now in Sam Donald at Leeds, the
Speaker 1: National Football League fourteen interceptions. Yeah. Look, I'd say this
Speaker 1: is the side of the ball that has given the
Speaker 1: Bills and their fans at least something to smile about,
Speaker 1: because they played pretty well. Uh. And and when you
Speaker 1: hold Tom Brady and and that Patriot offense to one
Speaker 1: touchdowner was a rushing touchdown and really frustrate uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the best quarterback ever. Perhaps, uh, you should feel pretty good.
Speaker 1: And they did, except that the offense did nothing. Uh
Speaker 1: in that Monday night game against the Jets as crazy
Speaker 1: as the sound guys to nine laws, where where nothing
Speaker 1: can be good from that? Uh. In this game they
Speaker 1: just played against Chicago, Uh, Bills out gained the Bears.
Speaker 1: They the yards total than the Bears. And I'm not
Speaker 1: even sure I've been trying to look that up. How
Speaker 1: how many teams have scored forty one points and still
Speaker 1: had fewer and lost the yardage battle? But as you know,
Speaker 1: a couple of those touchdowns were defensive touchdowns by the Bear.
Speaker 1: So um, this defense uh is and this is the
Speaker 1: other thing, you know, how how much more can it take?
Speaker 1: You know, psychologically, I think I been saying the right things,
Speaker 1: but man, it's it's got to get frustrating. They will
Speaker 1: dial up some different kind of pressures. Uh, they will
Speaker 1: disguise coverages Leslie playing at two deep zone. Uh, there
Speaker 1: will be a lot for Sam Donald to kind of
Speaker 1: look at and I think trying to process. Uh, and
Speaker 1: he's gonna have his issues, not just you know, based
Speaker 1: on what he's already done, but this defense has made
Speaker 1: it hard for quarterbacks to get into any sort of rhythm.
Speaker 1: It's crazy to think about that. The Bill's offense, like
Speaker 1: you said, are historically bad, yet the defense is performing
Speaker 1: pretty much from what you're saying and what statuos lights out.
Speaker 1: So what is the strength of this Bill's defense and
Speaker 1: what the steps have you seen from someone like Davis
Speaker 1: White and someone who was nineteen at the time that
Speaker 1: he got drafted, his Tremaine Edmunds. Yeah, well, I think
Speaker 1: White's played very well. Um he's been one of the highlights.
Speaker 1: I think the safeties have been good. Uh not maybe
Speaker 1: not as impressive as as they were last year, but
Speaker 1: but solid enough and and coverage especially Um. Edmunds was
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol and missed the last game. Um, he's
Speaker 1: been you know, he's been a little up and down.
Speaker 1: He's played like the young man that he is. UM.
Speaker 1: I think athletically the talent is just incredible off the hook,
Speaker 1: but in terms of his actual uh steady contribution there,
Speaker 1: you know, there's more that that you need to see
Speaker 1: from him before I think he's ready to kind of
Speaker 1: take off. The front has been impressive. Starlottola, after a
Speaker 1: slow start, has played well at tackle and as part
Speaker 1: of a rotation uh, I mean he and Kyle Williams
Speaker 1: as starters have played well. And then as part of
Speaker 1: a rotation that involves h Jordan Phillips uh and Harrison Phillips. Uh.
Speaker 1: Harrison is a rookie from Stanford. Jordan's they picked up
Speaker 1: from Miami. You know him, you've seen him. Uh and
Speaker 1: and he seems to have found a new life with
Speaker 1: this Buffalo team after being claimed off waivers from the Dolphins.
Speaker 1: And uh and I think in general, uh, Lorenzo Alexander,
Speaker 1: my god, at at thirty five, that guy is playing
Speaker 1: like a like twenty five years old. He's been all
Speaker 1: over the place, has pursued his pass rush, forcing turnovers. Uh.
Speaker 1: He's he's been a beast and he'll be a handful
Speaker 1: I think for this Jets offense to handle as well,
Speaker 1: last one, VIC, big picture, do you think the Bills
Speaker 1: and the Jets are in similar situations as far as
Speaker 1: not just this year but short term long term. The
Speaker 1: Jets under of this ball game three and six and
Speaker 1: the three games lies Bills are two and seven. They're
Speaker 1: on a four game losing streak themselves. They're both uh,
Speaker 1: probably gonna enter free agency with a ton of money
Speaker 1: and wanting to add some pieces around their young quarterbacks
Speaker 1: and try to get some experience for those quarterbacks down
Speaker 1: the stretch. And also on the other side of the ball,
Speaker 1: I think these are pretty solid defenses. Yeah, I think.
Speaker 1: I think everything you've hit there is is spot on
Speaker 1: as far as the comparisons uh and the Bills. Remember
Speaker 1: when you when you clean out, you know, when you
Speaker 1: send players packing and you clean uh, you sort of
Speaker 1: do that that clean up if you of your of
Speaker 1: your salary cap you have a lot of debt money,
Speaker 1: and they do. Uh. They're strapped with that this year.
Speaker 1: So that's been a problem that will go away next year,
Speaker 1: or most of it will, and then they will have,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, to a lot of room to spend
Speaker 1: a lot of cap room. Uh, And I would I
Speaker 1: would envisioned I mean, you still can't fix everything in
Speaker 1: one off season. But I think between the draft, uh
Speaker 1: and then and then, and I think their their position,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be position for a pretty high pick. You know,
Speaker 1: we assume they're not going to do a quarterback because
Speaker 1: that was done last year. Uh, so they can maybe
Speaker 1: address other key areas that we mentioned on offense and
Speaker 1: UM and like the Jets, uh, you know, just methodically
Speaker 1: try to build UM and I you know, and I
Speaker 1: do think that they get that chance, certainly, Sean McDermott
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean at least another off season in season
Speaker 1: to get this thing right. E A talked about it
Speaker 1: earlier on the pod. For the Jets defense and the
Speaker 1: Bills offensive matchup is what part of the Jets defense
Speaker 1: do you think could give whoever starts at quarterback fits.
Speaker 1: I gotta believe it's the safety play. Um. I always
Speaker 1: believe that. And you know, and I think that pairing
Speaker 1: with the Jets, you know, certainly is one that's always
Speaker 1: been formidable or has been for me a bowl um.
Speaker 1: And I think when you look at whoever is there,
Speaker 1: I mean, the problems have been you know, let's say
Speaker 1: it's I'm just gonna go down the list. If it's
Speaker 1: Derrick Anderson, who's who's a possibility if he's out of
Speaker 1: concussion protocol, his his delivery has been late at times. Uh.
Speaker 1: And then with with you know the same thing with
Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman. Late deliveries with good safeties usually lead to
Speaker 1: bad things for quarterbacks. Thick. Well, we're looking forward to
Speaker 1: seeing this weekend, buddy. Thanks so much, my pleasure. Guys,
Speaker 1: see you Sunday. And you can follow Vic Caruci on
Speaker 1: Twitter at vic Caruci. He can fit his name there.
Speaker 1: That's good and it's a good thing when you can
Speaker 1: just put your name in Twitter. I have too much
Speaker 1: of a common name for that? Is that a common name?
Speaker 1: Ethan Greenberger was probably common? Yeah, yeah, Ethan's pretty common,
Speaker 1: so I can't I can't do it. But regardless, it's
Speaker 1: since pretty common. Huh. Yeah, it's irrelevant. But m given
Speaker 1: this matchup this Sunday, you talked about it a little
Speaker 1: bit before that, and on paper, the Jets should be
Speaker 1: able to dictate this game defensively, yes, I think they should.
Speaker 1: But given the offensive struggles for the Jets this past
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, what do you expect from the Jets offense?
Speaker 1: Bills defense matchup. I don't really know, to be honest
Speaker 1: with you. Um, the Bills gave up less than two
Speaker 1: hundred yards against the Bears, like thick with saying, and
Speaker 1: they lost nine. Uh, this score ky get out of
Speaker 1: whack if you create takeaways. But for all the good
Speaker 1: the Jets defensively have done of late, they haven't had
Speaker 1: a takeaway the last three games. And that's not a knock.
Speaker 1: They play winning football against Miami. I don't know what
Speaker 1: was Miami three sixteen a third down three of sixteen.
Speaker 1: The Jets outgained the Dolphins. The Dolphins the doll Fins
Speaker 1: had thirty four yards in the second half total or
Speaker 1: thirty four yards, and the Jets abused a backup right
Speaker 1: tackle when Juwan James went out of the lineup of
Speaker 1: Jordan Jenkins that pick us up paras sacks. They had
Speaker 1: four sacks, and also the pass rush was there. Um,
Speaker 1: you can't fault the defense for what happened against the Dolphins. Uh.
Speaker 1: With that being sad, I think there was an element
Speaker 1: of accountability and locker room after the game. I didn't
Speaker 1: sense any of the defensive guys while they were frustrated.
Speaker 1: I think they were encouraged by the way they performed,
Speaker 1: and they also know it's a team game and they
Speaker 1: were not going to point any fingers. And everybody in
Speaker 1: the locker room has a great amount of respect for
Speaker 1: Donald because of his workout, his approach, the way he
Speaker 1: is a studious about the game and really wants to
Speaker 1: be a great player and really helped his team win.
Speaker 1: So I don't I don't sense that the locker room
Speaker 1: is anywhere close to splinter splinterating. The Bills might have
Speaker 1: some issues there where Vick said they're holding it together.
Speaker 1: But while the Jets have had offensive problems of late,
Speaker 1: it's nothing compared to what's going on. I can't even
Speaker 1: begin to imagine what what the offense defense discrepancy looks like,
Speaker 1: especially in Buffalo. So but to your point, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I will turning the question on you, Uh, how do
Speaker 1: you think the Jets moved the ball against the Bills?
Speaker 1: I think that well, first of all, I think the
Speaker 1: Jets play much better at home, and you saw that
Speaker 1: even when their home stretch. Yeah, so that the Jets defense,
Speaker 1: I believe is gonna be flying around. I mean we
Speaker 1: saw last year when the Bills came to MetLife. I
Speaker 1: was a stomping but it's very different teams and I'm
Speaker 1: not bringing up last year. I just think that this
Speaker 1: defense is going to continue doing what it's done. But
Speaker 1: to answer the question is how do you move the ball?
Speaker 1: I think that I think that you gotta try to
Speaker 1: establish Quincy early because last week he I don't I
Speaker 1: don't even know at the top of my head, but
Speaker 1: he definitely had two receptions. One was on the third
Speaker 1: down play when he's when he skied to grab uh
Speaker 1: high pass from Donald. The other one was the screen
Speaker 1: when he took like the entire Dolphins defense up the
Speaker 1: field highlighted the game. Yeah, so I feel like that
Speaker 1: you have to get him going early and then maybe
Speaker 1: you get Isaiah Crowel and Eli McGuire going early. I
Speaker 1: will say that Eli McGuire I did like what I
Speaker 1: saw out of him. It wasn't a whole lot of
Speaker 1: run game for the Jets against the Dolphins, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought Eli looked pretty fresh as you would as
Speaker 1: you would expect, but I thought he had a nice
Speaker 1: burst and for someone that we were excited to see
Speaker 1: after a good spring, and unfortunately he heard his foot
Speaker 1: the first practice of training camp I'm excited to see
Speaker 1: what the Jets can do with him. I would agree
Speaker 1: with all that. So I don't know how many Russia temps.
Speaker 1: So we're against the Dolphins, I would anticipate, and we
Speaker 1: talked about these numbers every week. Red it's that I
Speaker 1: think the Jets will want to get their rushed total up.
Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter with the arts. Yes, you want
Speaker 1: to have the ards, but you have more of an
Speaker 1: opportunity to spring along one the more carries you have.
Speaker 1: So I like what I saw Eli McGuire and Quincy
Speaker 1: and Nona is energy and he provides a spark and
Speaker 1: he would get the fans in this game. And it's
Speaker 1: jaf Pennington continues to say every week Jets flight Plan,
Speaker 1: Sunday Morning, CBS inside the Pocket. So Jets are a
Speaker 1: good screen team, so maybe you see some more screens.
Speaker 1: Well remember in week three against the Browns, it seemed
Speaker 1: like the Jets always ran the screen. It was screen here,
Speaker 1: screen there, but not buster And the screens can set
Speaker 1: other things up per se uh. For example, Chris Herne's
Speaker 1: touched on. Oh yeah that was but that was a
Speaker 1: beautiful play, right, so put everybody in Indianapolis was like, okay,
Speaker 1: screen gets a running on the screen, and then they're
Speaker 1: running a bunch of goals and there's Chris Herton in
Speaker 1: the first first professional touchdown. So what you do successfully
Speaker 1: can lead to something off of that, So screens that
Speaker 1: also gets the quarterback comfortable. He obviously didn't see the
Speaker 1: field really well against the Dolphins, and he hurried some things. Uh,
Speaker 1: and he was very hard on himself. It's very rare
Speaker 1: in today's day and age where a professional athlete will
Speaker 1: say it played stupid. Yeah, it was probably over the
Speaker 1: top part on himself, but I think that people in
Speaker 1: the locker room don't respect that because he's honestly assessing
Speaker 1: himself even though he's been too harsh of a greater.
Speaker 1: And he also said everybody around him was doing their jobs.
Speaker 1: That wins a locker room. And that's how we closed
Speaker 1: the Official Jets Podcast. Don't think you will have a
Speaker 1: problem closing this one. We'll see you next week.