WEBVTT - Jets-Bills Game Preview (11/8) 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:05.000 The game is over, New York World. You play to 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:17.599 win the game. He's got a Jet's down, can't. You're 0:00:17.680 --> 0:00:21.000 listening to the Official New York Jets podcast, a Jets 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:26.639 three sixty production. What's up everybody? Thanks for tuning in 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:30.960 the Official Jets podcast again? Where what are we in now? 0:00:31.000 --> 0:00:34.320 He we ten? We're in the play MGM studio where 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:38.960 the play MGM Studios. If you don't know, now you 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.720 know that's the partnership the Jets and Play and so 0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:48.520 Play MGM. Uh great brand. And now the studio has 0:00:49.040 --> 0:00:52.640 a brand new, beautiful name, all right, and the podcast 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:54.880 keeps rolling off, Yes it does. And most of the 0:00:54.920 --> 0:00:58.200 time we are in the play MGM studio. Yes that 0:00:58.560 --> 0:01:01.600 this is true. There we got new chairs a couple 0:01:01.640 --> 0:01:05.440 of weeks ago, we got a new studio name recently, 0:01:05.520 --> 0:01:07.720 and maybe we'll have a new podcast area as well. 0:01:08.640 --> 0:01:12.679 Things are trending upwards for the pot yes they are. Unfortunately, 0:01:12.760 --> 0:01:15.560 things are not trending so upwards right now for the 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:17.959 New York Jets. As now, the Jets are on a 0:01:18.000 --> 0:01:20.240 three game slide three game slide for the second time 0:01:20.360 --> 0:01:22.560 this year, but this is the first time in two 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:24.920 thousand and eighteen that the Jets are three games under 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.800 because they're one that first game against the Detroit Lions 0:01:28.920 --> 0:01:32.360 followed by a three game losing streak to finish the 0:01:32.400 --> 0:01:36.200 first quarter of this season. But yeah, you're right, facing 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:38.760 a lot of adversity right now. This team a very 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.760 winnable game against the Miami Dolphins, and the defense put 0:01:41.800 --> 0:01:45.400 them in position to win the game. But as you 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.880 might have anticipated prior to the season, the offense is 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:53.040 gonna go through some ups and downs, and Sunday was 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:55.880 was a down. The Caruci joins the pod this week. 0:01:56.400 --> 0:02:01.120 That's the guy, that guy up in Buffalo People on Buffalo. 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:03.639 You know, I don't know if you like me Greens 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:08.160 at all, but people on People on Buffalo, Um, there's 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:10.200 a lot of good people back in the seven ones 0:02:10.240 --> 0:02:13.239 six and Vic I used to read him when I 0:02:13.280 --> 0:02:15.840 was a kid, well before we could get all the 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:18.920 information on our phones, and you were playing on Instagram, Greens, 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:22.720 I was playing on Instagram. I used to that even 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:27.000 the right terminology going through, going through, scrolling, scrolling through 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:31.640 Instagram the same thing. Come on, playing Instagram. It sounds 0:02:31.680 --> 0:02:34.720 like a game. It is a game. I don't think 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:36.920 a lot of time people are they're going through it 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:41.960 for entertainment. No. Yeah, okay, you're consuming Instagram, bro, but 0:02:42.000 --> 0:02:45.360 that's not playing. By the way. By the way, people 0:02:45.360 --> 0:02:48.240 can find you on Instagram. Yes, I've heard about that. 0:02:48.639 --> 0:02:51.320 I've heard about some of your posts. Actually, yeah, so 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:55.160 I used to when I was a kid. Uh, I 0:02:55.160 --> 0:02:57.480 would be excited for the newspaper to come out because 0:02:57.480 --> 0:02:59.520 this is how much of a sports junkie I was. 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:02.600 That the newspaper used to be delivering around two thirty 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:05.040 three o'clock, so right and run you got home from 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:09.000 school and I'd always run out there to read the paper. 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.760 And Kruschi covered the Bills at the time, as he 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.800 still does. Uh, he's one of the best in the business. 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:17.799 He's a great man. Uh, somebody I look up to 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.679 when I'm proud to girlfriend Vic Tara. He has great 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:24.440 stuff to say always. He was on the pod last year, 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.040 great stuff. He's on the pod this year. He had 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:30.720 great stuff. He talks about the Bill's quarterbacks with Josh Allen, 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:35.400 Nathan Peterman, Derek Anderson. If Josh Allen could be set 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:38.440 to make his return from an elbow injury against the 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:41.360 Jets this week, there's a whole lot that we dove 0:03:41.400 --> 0:03:43.520 into with Vick. Can you believe that the Bills are 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:46.960 everything less than a touchdown a game? No, but I can't. 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:48.840 What I can't believe more so than that, or what 0:03:48.960 --> 0:03:51.680 I find is shocking. And we talked about this with Vick, 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:59.120 is that the Bills offensively are historically bad, but the 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.240 defense is third in the league. They don't give up money, earths, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:05.920 it's a good defense. It's it's funny to look at. 0:04:06.640 --> 0:04:09.440 And this is something well we touched upon with Vic 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:11.560 is that you kind of look at these teams and 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:14.120 I think the Jets are definitely further along offensively, and 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.440 the numbers indicate that. But there are similarities with these teams. 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:24.919 The Jets they have played uh, pretty good defense, and 0:04:24.960 --> 0:04:28.640 then they have the ability to take a couple steps 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:32.800 I think here in the future. UM offensively, you know, 0:04:32.960 --> 0:04:35.880 sometimes the McGrain on the ground been very inconsistent on 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:39.839 the ground, and the passing game of late has taken 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:44.360 a step back. Um with a rookie quarterback and Sam Donald, 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.120 but the Jets think they had their quarterback in the 0:04:46.200 --> 0:04:49.320 future and the Bills they moved up in the draft 0:04:49.400 --> 0:04:52.880 four picks after the Jets selected Sam Donald out the 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:56.680 USC The Bills take Josh Allen at number seven overall, 0:04:57.400 --> 0:05:02.960 but as Vic will eloquently put, I don't think anybody 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:06.560 in Buffalo understood how bad that offense was going to 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:10.520 be throughout this year. The one anomaly was what they 0:05:10.560 --> 0:05:13.320 did to Minnesota, which when you look back at the 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.960 NFL season, he will be like, how did that happen? 0:05:16.720 --> 0:05:19.960 Not to mention it was in Minnesota where the Buffalo 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.320 just beat him down. But the one thing is if 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.640 Allen does play, is you have to account for him 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:31.479 as a runner, and that's nothing Peterman, who you know, 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:33.520 there's a lot of jokes going around and you almost 0:05:33.560 --> 0:05:35.440 feel bad for the guy. I have some kind of 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:38.840 empathy for him right now because he's seems like he's 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:41.919 walking pick six. And then Derrick Anderson is the thirty 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:45.520 five year old journeyman who's well respected. But the guy 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.000 didn't play all year. He came off his couch, like 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:52.600 Vic will say, and he's in the starting lineup. They 0:05:52.640 --> 0:05:55.360 don't have anything to go to offensively. I still think 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:57.520 McCoy is a great player, but he can't get anything 0:05:57.520 --> 0:06:01.120 going on the ground. Uh, this is a game on paper. 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:06.280 The Jets really should be able to dictate on their 0:06:06.480 --> 0:06:10.960 terms defensively at least, all right without further ado. You know, 0:06:11.080 --> 0:06:12.919 we broke down the Bills a little bit by What 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:22.560 better person to hear from there, Vick Carucci. All right, 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:27.160 let's go back to EA's old stomping ground, the seven s. 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:28.960 We're gonna bring in a friend of the pod, that 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.640 is Vick Carucci. Vic, thanks so much for coming on 0:06:31.720 --> 0:06:37.280 the Official Jets Podcast. My pleasure, guys. Vick. What's going 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:42.720 on in Buffalo right now? With that offense? Uh? Was 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:45.680 this part of the plan as far as they knew 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.080 they were gonna take a step back. I know you're 0:06:48.080 --> 0:06:51.200 never envisioned your rookie quarterback getting hurt, But did they 0:06:51.320 --> 0:06:58.279 ever imagine that this Bill's offense would be so anemic? Well? 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:02.080 I can't imagine that that that's what they believed at 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:05.960 any point, that the offense would be historically bad. I mean, 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:09.279 they're on a pace to score the fewest points in 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:13.320 the history of a franchise that's been around since nineteen sixty. 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:16.840 So there's no way that that crossed the mind of 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:20.680 the of the leadership of this football team in any way. Now, 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.160 as far as the stepping back, I think that it's 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:27.120 a separate topic, guys, because yes, they made the playoffs 0:07:27.240 --> 0:07:30.200 last year as a nine and seven team, but they 0:07:30.240 --> 0:07:32.640 also backed in. I mean, they had a lot of 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:34.960 help to do that, and I think in many ways 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.840 it was sort of miraculous, given how the Bengals beat 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:42.160 the Ravens in that final game after Buffalo won at Miami. Um, 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.560 and it created some excitement and and the fan base was, 0:07:45.840 --> 0:07:48.600 you know, was thrilled to have a seventeen year playoff 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:53.000 drought end. But uh, it definitely did not set the 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:58.920 stage for the feeling of of continued playoffs success. That's 0:07:58.920 --> 0:08:02.080 not to say that they hopeful that that they'd be 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:05.400 even better this year, but the reality was with so 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:10.080 much change, including the quarterback position, Um, there there was 0:08:10.240 --> 0:08:13.040 there was more reason to believe they were gonna go backwards. 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:17.360 I just don't think they ever expected the backward move 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.880 to be as extreme as it has so far. Well, 0:08:19.880 --> 0:08:22.680 why is offense so bad? I know, Brian dave Ball, 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.960 he was a member of the Jets staff back in 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:29.320 the day with Eric Mangini. He knows what he's doing. Um, 0:08:29.560 --> 0:08:32.760 is it the offensive line? Is it the quarterback play? 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:35.680 Is it the wide receivers. Is is it the tight ends. 0:08:35.679 --> 0:08:38.560 There's a combination of everything. Because I look on the 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:44.200 outside and Kelvin Benjamin z A Jones, they're not producing. 0:08:44.880 --> 0:08:50.160 Um Shady McCoy is having probably the toughest rushing UH 0:08:50.320 --> 0:08:54.240 season of his career. The offensive line seems like they 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:56.959 got a lot of backups who who are playing starting 0:08:57.040 --> 0:09:02.480 roles right now? What do you pinpoint here? You've you've 0:09:02.559 --> 0:09:05.960 just listed at all. I mean, I'm I'm I don't 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:08.000 want to be lazy with my answer and say all 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:10.079 of the above, but that is what it is. Every 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:13.400 single thing you could you could check off those boxes 0:09:13.840 --> 0:09:17.520 and say that those have contributed to the struggles of 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:22.000 this offense. And uh, you know, the injury to Josh Allen, 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:25.959 the seventh overall pick, a guy that made five starts 0:09:26.000 --> 0:09:28.960 and a guy that there uh that they're thinking is 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.240 their future at quarterback. The way the Jets are with 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:35.720 Sam Donald, I think the feeling, UH is that, first 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:38.280 of all, he has struggled as much as anyone else, 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:41.120 uh in most of his games. He had a nice 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:45.320 performance against Minnesota, and still it was you know, limited 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:49.920 sort of snapshots of successful place versus a dominant showing. 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:53.120 But it was the one thing that this offense, the 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:56.040 only thing that this offense has really been able to 0:09:56.080 --> 0:10:00.680 hang its hat on overall. Um, Yeah, they they need 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.600 they need more, they need better players, they need upgrades 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:09.280 pretty much everywhere. Uh. And on offense again on the 0:10:09.280 --> 0:10:13.400 assumption that Alan is the answer at quarterback. Um, he 0:10:13.520 --> 0:10:17.640 also wasn't expected to play at least by them as 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.160 much as he even did before getting hurt. Uh. They 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:26.080 went into the year uh expecting to have a bridge 0:10:26.120 --> 0:10:29.520 guy play for four or five games. They identified that 0:10:29.559 --> 0:10:33.520 guy as Nathan Peterman. Uh. It backfired horribly on them 0:10:33.520 --> 0:10:36.920 with his four showing at Baltimore. And then they were 0:10:36.960 --> 0:10:39.360 stuck because they had traded a J. McCarron to the 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.520 Raiders and they were in a hole. They they they 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.600 had to kind of you know, grope around and find 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:54.040 something and found uh, Derrick Anderson off his couch Basically, Hey, 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.320 I want to get to the couch. And he was comfortable, 0:10:56.400 --> 0:10:59.719 but they gave him a million plus reasons to get 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:03.200 off the couch. And but to really be the mentor 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.840 for for Alan, he wasn't even brought into play and 0:11:07.840 --> 0:11:10.080 and that should tell you something too. And then he 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:13.280 ends up playing and and of course you get the 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.800 kind of performance that a thirty five year old journeyman 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:18.480 backup is going to give you who hasn't had any 0:11:18.520 --> 0:11:24.240 offseason work. So between that and and most of Peterman's struggles, 0:11:24.600 --> 0:11:26.760 which has been pretty much every time he's been on 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:30.240 the field, um, that's contributed. But like you said, the 0:11:30.280 --> 0:11:35.319 receiving corps is woefully below par. I mean, I can 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.679 tell you right now there isn't a guy I'd probably 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:42.080 keep in that core for next year. I'd I'd replace 0:11:42.160 --> 0:11:45.280 them all, and that includes a Jones. I don't see 0:11:45.480 --> 0:11:49.080 much in any of those guys that's worth retaining. Uh, 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:51.760 you know, the old line definitely needs to make over. 0:11:51.880 --> 0:11:54.320 So there's a lot of work guys. And and yes, 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.440 Brian dave Ball is getting a lot of heat too 0:11:56.520 --> 0:12:00.960 from fans, uh for you know, not being creative enough 0:12:01.120 --> 0:12:04.160 or not doing the right things. I'm not entirely sure 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:08.559 what Brian can or any coordinator can do with what 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:13.240 this offense offers. But everybody is being piled into the 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:17.840 to the heap, if you will. Given the quarterback carousel 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:20.640 per se that's been under center for the building, who 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:24.679 do you think starts this Sunday against the Jets. That's 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:29.600 a good question. We're gonna hopefully, we're gonna hopefully find 0:12:29.600 --> 0:12:34.280 out more about that. Um today, We're gonna have a 0:12:34.320 --> 0:12:39.600 conversation with h the head coach later today and he'll 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.360 he'll Uh, I don't know if he's gonna totally shed 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:46.680 light on it, guys, frankly, but um, he did say 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:50.920 on Monday that Josh Allen, you know, is throwing. UM. 0:12:50.960 --> 0:12:53.439 I think he said upwards of a hundred passes and 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:57.760 practice over the weekend. So he thinks he's got him 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.959 back on pace to be ready. And I think if 0:13:00.960 --> 0:13:04.240 the medical he said he would defer to the medical people, 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.240 if they said that that elbow, the sprained elbow that 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.080 he had on his right throwing arm, H is working 0:13:11.080 --> 0:13:14.400 well enough and he gets the clearance, then I think 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:16.640 it's all systems go and that he will be back 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.240 in the starting lineup. Vick, what do you make of 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:22.600 Allen and the limited sample size that you've seen of him? 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.839 Obviously we knew he was gonna be a little bit 0:13:25.000 --> 0:13:28.480 raw coming out of Wyoming. And if the Jets face 0:13:28.679 --> 0:13:32.400 Josh Allen this week, uh, what kind of deef? What 0:13:32.559 --> 0:13:38.200 kind of problems. Could this defense post for the Bills? Yeah, 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:41.640 well what were you know, certainly if if Alan um, 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:45.959 if Alan does start, uh, you still have a rookie 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.360 and you still have the mistakes that go with playing 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:53.800 the position, and on top of that coming back from 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:58.360 being away for several weeks. So uh, I think there's 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:00.400 some hope on the there's a lot of hope on 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.600 the part of the Bills that him watching and and 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:08.800 and absorbing learning will contribute to a better effort once 0:14:08.840 --> 0:14:12.400 he's back on the field. But you know, we'll see. Um. 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:16.600 The other thing is uh, athletically, I mean, I liked 0:14:16.640 --> 0:14:19.400 the guy coming out. I I didn't you know, I 0:14:19.440 --> 0:14:22.920 wasn't all that troubled by as many others were about 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:26.520 the accuracy problems and the and just the maybe the 0:14:26.720 --> 0:14:30.600 lack of development that might have been there playing at Wyoming. UM. 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:33.480 I know he had problems with footwork, and Jordan Palmer, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:37.240 the quarterback guru, worked with him on that extensively, and 0:14:37.240 --> 0:14:39.880 and from what I understand, the Bills, you know, we're 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.320 also doing the same things with him, uh, as far 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:47.600 as focusing on not over striding, which led to him 0:14:47.800 --> 0:14:50.800 you know, led to some of his accuracy problems. But 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:54.320 more than that, too is how I think, you know, 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:58.120 his understanding of the Bill's offense is fine. He's absorbed that, 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:01.800 he's he's a smart play here. The question is how 0:15:01.880 --> 0:15:05.800 well does he read? How quickly does he react? And 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.760 and I think that you know, getting rid of the 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:11.600 ball on time, and and you know, getting the field 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:15.800 for what the defense is adjusting to, how they're trying 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:20.160 to pool him with disguising coverages all that. Those are 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:23.240 the things obviously, and again you're you're watching that there 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:27.320 with Sam Donald. Those are the things that present problems. 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.480 It's gonna be a good storyline this week because these 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:31.880 guys grew close in the spring, didn't they Vic because 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:35.120 you just mounted Jordan Palmer. They both actually lived with 0:15:35.240 --> 0:15:38.160 Jordan for a period of time and got ready for 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:42.600 the draft exactly. And you know, I I've talked with 0:15:42.680 --> 0:15:47.760 Jordan's multiple times in the uh this well yeah, before 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.560 the season and then early in the season about Josh. 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:55.360 But in in those conversations he brought up Sam and 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:59.000 and his close you know ties there with all of 0:15:59.080 --> 0:16:03.520 his pupils and clients and and uh and and how 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.880 much you know, how how confident I think he believes 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.720 that this group of quarterbacks not naturally the guy that 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:12.120 he's working with, he's gonna pump him up. You know. 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.640 I I hear what he says, and it sounds it 0:16:15.720 --> 0:16:19.320 sounds plausible to think that there is a new you know, 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.760 there will be new faces in the a f C East, 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:26.360 especially that that will have longer runs. What I don't know, guys, 0:16:26.480 --> 0:16:28.120 is you know what we're gonna see this year. But 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.600 I will say this, A two and seven Buffalo team, 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:35.160 um that that has just been horrific to watch the 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:38.720 Jets who have had their problems and struggling. Uh, this 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:41.080 is the kind of game where you know, you really 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:44.320 hope these two young quarterbacks are facing off because that 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:48.080 would frankly give it um any any level of interest 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.960 of making it interesting. I think, yeah, that's fair. And 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:54.000 the Bill has got a major overhaul on their hands 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.360 in terms of the offense and off season to get 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.520 some pieces around A four Munch and Josh Allen. What 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:03.520 are on McDermott and Leslie Fraser gonna dial up against 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:07.200 a rookie quarterback who is and during his bumps in 0:17:07.240 --> 0:17:09.240 the road right now in Sam Donald at Leeds, the 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:14.000 National Football League fourteen interceptions. Yeah. Look, I'd say this 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.560 is the side of the ball that has given the 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:20.119 Bills and their fans at least something to smile about, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.560 because they played pretty well. Uh. And and when you 0:17:23.600 --> 0:17:27.280 hold Tom Brady and and that Patriot offense to one 0:17:27.320 --> 0:17:31.560 touchdowner was a rushing touchdown and really frustrate uh, you know, 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:36.840 the best quarterback ever. Perhaps, uh, you should feel pretty good. 0:17:36.880 --> 0:17:39.960 And they did, except that the offense did nothing. Uh 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.120 in that Monday night game against the Jets as crazy 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:47.240 as the sound guys to nine laws, where where nothing 0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:50.040 can be good from that? Uh. In this game they 0:17:50.080 --> 0:17:54.040 just played against Chicago, Uh, Bills out gained the Bears. 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:58.560 They the yards total than the Bears. And I'm not 0:17:58.600 --> 0:18:00.760 even sure I've been trying to look that up. How 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:03.960 how many teams have scored forty one points and still 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:07.480 had fewer and lost the yardage battle? But as you know, 0:18:07.520 --> 0:18:10.560 a couple of those touchdowns were defensive touchdowns by the Bear. 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:14.600 So um, this defense uh is and this is the 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:18.000 other thing, you know, how how much more can it take? 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:22.520 You know, psychologically, I think I been saying the right things, 0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.080 but man, it's it's got to get frustrating. They will 0:18:25.119 --> 0:18:28.520 dial up some different kind of pressures. Uh, they will 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:32.120 disguise coverages Leslie playing at two deep zone. Uh, there 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:34.119 will be a lot for Sam Donald to kind of 0:18:34.160 --> 0:18:37.480 look at and I think trying to process. Uh, and 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.040 he's gonna have his issues, not just you know, based 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:42.720 on what he's already done, but this defense has made 0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:46.159 it hard for quarterbacks to get into any sort of rhythm. 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:48.879 It's crazy to think about that. The Bill's offense, like 0:18:48.920 --> 0:18:52.760 you said, are historically bad, yet the defense is performing 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.520 pretty much from what you're saying and what statuos lights out. 0:18:56.640 --> 0:18:59.680 So what is the strength of this Bill's defense and 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.760 what the steps have you seen from someone like Davis 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:05.639 White and someone who was nineteen at the time that 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:10.760 he got drafted, his Tremaine Edmunds. Yeah, well, I think 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.639 White's played very well. Um he's been one of the highlights. 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:17.639 I think the safeties have been good. Uh not maybe 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.920 not as impressive as as they were last year, but 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:25.919 but solid enough and and coverage especially Um. Edmunds was 0:19:25.960 --> 0:19:29.399 in concussion protocol and missed the last game. Um, he's 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:31.400 been you know, he's been a little up and down. 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:34.800 He's played like the young man that he is. UM. 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:38.800 I think athletically the talent is just incredible off the hook, 0:19:39.119 --> 0:19:44.920 but in terms of his actual uh steady contribution there, 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:47.320 you know, there's more that that you need to see 0:19:47.400 --> 0:19:50.919 from him before I think he's ready to kind of 0:19:50.920 --> 0:19:55.199 take off. The front has been impressive. Starlottola, after a 0:19:55.240 --> 0:19:58.520 slow start, has played well at tackle and as part 0:19:58.520 --> 0:20:01.360 of a rotation uh, I mean he and Kyle Williams 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.600 as starters have played well. And then as part of 0:20:03.600 --> 0:20:09.359 a rotation that involves h Jordan Phillips uh and Harrison Phillips. Uh. 0:20:09.520 --> 0:20:12.919 Harrison is a rookie from Stanford. Jordan's they picked up 0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:15.840 from Miami. You know him, you've seen him. Uh and 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.760 and he seems to have found a new life with 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:23.040 this Buffalo team after being claimed off waivers from the Dolphins. 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:27.680 And uh and I think in general, uh, Lorenzo Alexander, 0:20:27.800 --> 0:20:31.080 my god, at at thirty five, that guy is playing 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:34.040 like a like twenty five years old. He's been all 0:20:34.080 --> 0:20:39.120 over the place, has pursued his pass rush, forcing turnovers. Uh. 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.920 He's he's been a beast and he'll be a handful 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:45.120 I think for this Jets offense to handle as well, 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:49.879 last one, VIC, big picture, do you think the Bills 0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.920 and the Jets are in similar situations as far as 0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:57.320 not just this year but short term long term. The 0:20:57.400 --> 0:20:59.280 Jets under of this ball game three and six and 0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:02.240 the three games lies Bills are two and seven. They're 0:21:02.240 --> 0:21:05.880 on a four game losing streak themselves. They're both uh, 0:21:06.080 --> 0:21:09.480 probably gonna enter free agency with a ton of money 0:21:09.520 --> 0:21:13.600 and wanting to add some pieces around their young quarterbacks 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:16.400 and try to get some experience for those quarterbacks down 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.440 the stretch. And also on the other side of the ball, 0:21:18.480 --> 0:21:22.359 I think these are pretty solid defenses. Yeah, I think. 0:21:22.640 --> 0:21:25.000 I think everything you've hit there is is spot on 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.520 as far as the comparisons uh and the Bills. Remember 0:21:28.560 --> 0:21:31.639 when you when you clean out, you know, when you 0:21:31.680 --> 0:21:35.320 send players packing and you clean uh, you sort of 0:21:35.359 --> 0:21:37.800 do that that clean up if you of your of 0:21:37.880 --> 0:21:39.680 your salary cap you have a lot of debt money, 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.280 and they do. Uh. They're strapped with that this year. 0:21:42.359 --> 0:21:45.760 So that's been a problem that will go away next year, 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.439 or most of it will, and then they will have, 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.320 as you mentioned, to a lot of room to spend 0:21:51.320 --> 0:21:54.240 a lot of cap room. Uh, And I would I 0:21:54.240 --> 0:21:57.040 would envisioned I mean, you still can't fix everything in 0:21:57.119 --> 0:22:00.440 one off season. But I think between the draft, uh 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:03.080 and then and then, and I think their their position, 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:05.879 they're gonna be position for a pretty high pick. You know, 0:22:05.960 --> 0:22:08.120 we assume they're not going to do a quarterback because 0:22:08.160 --> 0:22:11.320 that was done last year. Uh, so they can maybe 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:16.520 address other key areas that we mentioned on offense and 0:22:16.640 --> 0:22:19.640 UM and like the Jets, uh, you know, just methodically 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:22.280 try to build UM and I you know, and I 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:26.080 do think that they get that chance, certainly, Sean McDermott 0:22:26.080 --> 0:22:30.160 and Brandon Bean at least another off season in season 0:22:30.560 --> 0:22:33.840 to get this thing right. E A talked about it 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:38.560 earlier on the pod. For the Jets defense and the 0:22:38.600 --> 0:22:43.879 Bills offensive matchup is what part of the Jets defense 0:22:43.920 --> 0:22:47.080 do you think could give whoever starts at quarterback fits. 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:51.719 I gotta believe it's the safety play. Um. I always 0:22:51.720 --> 0:22:54.080 believe that. And you know, and I think that pairing 0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:58.040 with the Jets, you know, certainly is one that's always 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:01.320 been formidable or has been for me a bowl um. 0:23:01.400 --> 0:23:06.160 And I think when you look at whoever is there, 0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.720 I mean, the problems have been you know, let's say 0:23:09.760 --> 0:23:11.920 it's I'm just gonna go down the list. If it's 0:23:11.960 --> 0:23:15.600 Derrick Anderson, who's who's a possibility if he's out of 0:23:15.640 --> 0:23:21.880 concussion protocol, his his delivery has been late at times. Uh. 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:24.639 And then with with you know the same thing with 0:23:24.720 --> 0:23:29.119 Nathan Peterman. Late deliveries with good safeties usually lead to 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:33.199 bad things for quarterbacks. Thick. Well, we're looking forward to 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:37.640 seeing this weekend, buddy. Thanks so much, my pleasure. 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