1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: The game is over, New York World. You play to 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: win the game. He's got a Jet's down, can't. You're 3 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: listening to the Official New York Jets podcast, a Jets 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:26,639 Speaker 1: three sixty production. What's up everybody? Thanks for tuning in 5 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:30,960 Speaker 1: the Official Jets podcast again? Where what are we in now? 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: He we ten? We're in the play MGM studio where 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: the play MGM Studios. If you don't know, now you 8 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: know that's the partnership the Jets and Play and so 9 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: Play MGM. Uh great brand. And now the studio has 10 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: a brand new, beautiful name, all right, and the podcast 11 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: keeps rolling off, Yes it does. And most of the 12 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: time we are in the play MGM studio. Yes that 13 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 1: this is true. There we got new chairs a couple 14 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, we got a new studio name recently, 15 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: and maybe we'll have a new podcast area as well. 16 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: Things are trending upwards for the pot yes they are. Unfortunately, 17 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: things are not trending so upwards right now for the 18 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: New York Jets. As now, the Jets are on a 19 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,240 Speaker 1: three game slide three game slide for the second time 20 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: this year, but this is the first time in two 21 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen that the Jets are three games under 22 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: because they're one that first game against the Detroit Lions 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 1: followed by a three game losing streak to finish the 24 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: first quarter of this season. But yeah, you're right, facing 25 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: a lot of adversity right now. This team a very 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: winnable game against the Miami Dolphins, and the defense put 27 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,400 Speaker 1: them in position to win the game. But as you 28 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: might have anticipated prior to the season, the offense is 29 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna go through some ups and downs, and Sunday was 30 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: was a down. The Caruci joins the pod this week. 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 1: That's the guy, that guy up in Buffalo People on Buffalo. 32 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,639 Speaker 1: You know, I don't know if you like me Greens 33 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: at all, but people on People on Buffalo, Um, there's 34 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: a lot of good people back in the seven ones 35 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,239 Speaker 1: six and Vic I used to read him when I 36 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,840 Speaker 1: was a kid, well before we could get all the 37 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: information on our phones, and you were playing on Instagram, Greens, 38 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: I was playing on Instagram. I used to that even 39 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: the right terminology going through, going through, scrolling, scrolling through 40 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: Instagram the same thing. Come on, playing Instagram. It sounds 41 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: like a game. It is a game. I don't think 42 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: a lot of time people are they're going through it 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: for entertainment. No. Yeah, okay, you're consuming Instagram, bro, but 44 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 1: that's not playing. By the way. By the way, people 45 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 1: can find you on Instagram. Yes, I've heard about that. 46 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: I've heard about some of your posts. Actually, yeah, so 47 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: I used to when I was a kid. Uh, I 48 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: would be excited for the newspaper to come out because 49 00:02:57,480 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: this is how much of a sports junkie I was. 50 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 1: That the newspaper used to be delivering around two thirty 51 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: three o'clock, so right and run you got home from 52 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: school and I'd always run out there to read the paper. 53 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: And Kruschi covered the Bills at the time, as he 54 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: still does. Uh, he's one of the best in the business. 55 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 1: He's a great man. Uh, somebody I look up to 56 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,679 Speaker 1: when I'm proud to girlfriend Vic Tara. He has great 57 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: stuff to say always. He was on the pod last year, 58 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 1: great stuff. He's on the pod this year. He had 59 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: great stuff. He talks about the Bill's quarterbacks with Josh Allen, 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman, Derek Anderson. If Josh Allen could be set 61 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: to make his return from an elbow injury against the 62 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: Jets this week, there's a whole lot that we dove 63 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: into with Vick. Can you believe that the Bills are 64 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: everything less than a touchdown a game? No, but I can't. 65 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: What I can't believe more so than that, or what 66 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: I find is shocking. And we talked about this with Vick, 67 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: is that the Bills offensively are historically bad, but the 68 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: defense is third in the league. They don't give up money, earths, 69 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: it's a good defense. It's it's funny to look at. 70 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: And this is something well we touched upon with Vic 71 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: is that you kind of look at these teams and 72 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: I think the Jets are definitely further along offensively, and 73 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 1: the numbers indicate that. But there are similarities with these teams. 74 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 1: The Jets they have played uh, pretty good defense, and 75 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: then they have the ability to take a couple steps 76 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: I think here in the future. UM offensively, you know, 77 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: sometimes the McGrain on the ground been very inconsistent on 78 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: the ground, and the passing game of late has taken 79 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: a step back. Um with a rookie quarterback and Sam Donald, 80 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 1: but the Jets think they had their quarterback in the 81 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: future and the Bills they moved up in the draft 82 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: four picks after the Jets selected Sam Donald out the 83 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: USC The Bills take Josh Allen at number seven overall, 84 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: but as Vic will eloquently put, I don't think anybody 85 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: in Buffalo understood how bad that offense was going to 86 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: be throughout this year. The one anomaly was what they 87 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: did to Minnesota, which when you look back at the 88 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: NFL season, he will be like, how did that happen? 89 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: Not to mention it was in Minnesota where the Buffalo 90 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: just beat him down. But the one thing is if 91 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Allen does play, is you have to account for him 92 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: as a runner, and that's nothing Peterman, who you know, 93 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot of jokes going around and you almost 94 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: feel bad for the guy. I have some kind of 95 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:38,840 Speaker 1: empathy for him right now because he's seems like he's 96 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: walking pick six. And then Derrick Anderson is the thirty 97 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:45,520 Speaker 1: five year old journeyman who's well respected. But the guy 98 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: didn't play all year. He came off his couch, like 99 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: Vic will say, and he's in the starting lineup. They 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: don't have anything to go to offensively. I still think 101 00:05:55,440 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: McCoy is a great player, but he can't get anything 102 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: going on the ground. Uh, this is a game on paper. 103 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: The Jets really should be able to dictate on their 104 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: terms defensively at least, all right without further ado. You know, 105 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: we broke down the Bills a little bit by What 106 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: better person to hear from there, Vick Carucci. All right, 107 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: let's go back to EA's old stomping ground, the seven s. 108 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: We're gonna bring in a friend of the pod, that 109 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: is Vick Carucci. Vic, thanks so much for coming on 110 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:37,280 Speaker 1: the Official Jets Podcast. My pleasure, guys. Vick. What's going 111 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: on in Buffalo right now? With that offense? Uh? Was 112 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 1: this part of the plan as far as they knew 113 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: they were gonna take a step back. I know you're 114 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: never envisioned your rookie quarterback getting hurt, But did they 115 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 1: ever imagine that this Bill's offense would be so anemic? Well? 116 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: I can't imagine that that that's what they believed at 117 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: any point, that the offense would be historically bad. I mean, 118 00:07:05,960 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 1: they're on a pace to score the fewest points in 119 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: the history of a franchise that's been around since nineteen sixty. 120 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: So there's no way that that crossed the mind of 121 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: the of the leadership of this football team in any way. Now, 122 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: as far as the stepping back, I think that it's 123 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: a separate topic, guys, because yes, they made the playoffs 124 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: last year as a nine and seven team, but they 125 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: also backed in. I mean, they had a lot of 126 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: help to do that, and I think in many ways 127 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: it was sort of miraculous, given how the Bengals beat 128 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens in that final game after Buffalo won at Miami. Um, 129 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: and it created some excitement and and the fan base was, 130 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, was thrilled to have a seventeen year playoff 131 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: drought end. But uh, it definitely did not set the 132 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: stage for the feeling of of continued playoffs success. That's 133 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: not to say that they hopeful that that they'd be 134 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: even better this year, but the reality was with so 135 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: much change, including the quarterback position, Um, there there was 136 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 1: there was more reason to believe they were gonna go backwards. 137 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: I just don't think they ever expected the backward move 138 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: to be as extreme as it has so far. Well, 139 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: why is offense so bad? I know, Brian dave Ball, 140 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: he was a member of the Jets staff back in 141 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: the day with Eric Mangini. He knows what he's doing. Um, 142 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: is it the offensive line? Is it the quarterback play? 143 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 1: Is it the wide receivers. Is is it the tight ends. 144 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,560 Speaker 1: There's a combination of everything. Because I look on the 145 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: outside and Kelvin Benjamin z A Jones, they're not producing. 146 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: Um Shady McCoy is having probably the toughest rushing UH 147 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: season of his career. The offensive line seems like they 148 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: got a lot of backups who who are playing starting 149 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: roles right now? What do you pinpoint here? You've you've 150 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: just listed at all. I mean, I'm I'm I don't 151 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,000 Speaker 1: want to be lazy with my answer and say all 152 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: of the above, but that is what it is. Every 153 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: single thing you could you could check off those boxes 154 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: and say that those have contributed to the struggles of 155 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: this offense. And uh, you know, the injury to Josh Allen, 156 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: the seventh overall pick, a guy that made five starts 157 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: and a guy that there uh that they're thinking is 158 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: their future at quarterback. The way the Jets are with 159 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: Sam Donald, I think the feeling, UH is that, first 160 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: of all, he has struggled as much as anyone else, 161 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: uh in most of his games. He had a nice 162 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: performance against Minnesota, and still it was you know, limited 163 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: sort of snapshots of successful place versus a dominant showing. 164 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: But it was the one thing that this offense, the 165 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: only thing that this offense has really been able to 166 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: hang its hat on overall. Um, Yeah, they they need 167 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: they need more, they need better players, they need upgrades 168 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: pretty much everywhere. Uh. And on offense again on the 169 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: assumption that Alan is the answer at quarterback. Um, he 170 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: also wasn't expected to play at least by them as 171 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: much as he even did before getting hurt. Uh. They 172 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: went into the year uh expecting to have a bridge 173 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: guy play for four or five games. They identified that 174 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: guy as Nathan Peterman. Uh. It backfired horribly on them 175 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: with his four showing at Baltimore. And then they were 176 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: stuck because they had traded a J. McCarron to the 177 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: Raiders and they were in a hole. They they they 178 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: had to kind of you know, grope around and find 179 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: something and found uh, Derrick Anderson off his couch Basically, Hey, 180 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: I want to get to the couch. And he was comfortable, 181 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: but they gave him a million plus reasons to get 182 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: off the couch. And but to really be the mentor 183 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: for for Alan, he wasn't even brought into play and 184 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: and that should tell you something too. And then he 185 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: ends up playing and and of course you get the 186 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: kind of performance that a thirty five year old journeyman 187 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: backup is going to give you who hasn't had any 188 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: offseason work. So between that and and most of Peterman's struggles, 189 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: which has been pretty much every time he's been on 190 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: the field, um, that's contributed. But like you said, the 191 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 1: receiving corps is woefully below par. I mean, I can 192 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: tell you right now there isn't a guy I'd probably 193 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 1: keep in that core for next year. I'd I'd replace 194 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: them all, and that includes a Jones. I don't see 195 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: much in any of those guys that's worth retaining. Uh, 196 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, the old line definitely needs to make over. 197 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of work guys. And and yes, 198 00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: Brian dave Ball is getting a lot of heat too 199 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: from fans, uh for you know, not being creative enough 200 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: or not doing the right things. I'm not entirely sure 201 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: what Brian can or any coordinator can do with what 202 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: this offense offers. But everybody is being piled into the 203 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: to the heap, if you will. Given the quarterback carousel 204 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: per se that's been under center for the building, who 205 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,679 Speaker 1: do you think starts this Sunday against the Jets. That's 206 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: a good question. We're gonna hopefully, we're gonna hopefully find 207 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 1: out more about that. Um today, We're gonna have a 208 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: conversation with h the head coach later today and he'll 209 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: he'll Uh, I don't know if he's gonna totally shed 210 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: light on it, guys, frankly, but um, he did say 211 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: on Monday that Josh Allen, you know, is throwing. UM. 212 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,439 Speaker 1: I think he said upwards of a hundred passes and 213 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: practice over the weekend. So he thinks he's got him 214 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 1: back on pace to be ready. And I think if 215 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: the medical he said he would defer to the medical people, 216 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 1: if they said that that elbow, the sprained elbow that 217 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: he had on his right throwing arm, H is working 218 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 1: well enough and he gets the clearance, then I think 219 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: it's all systems go and that he will be back 220 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: in the starting lineup. Vick, what do you make of 221 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: Allen and the limited sample size that you've seen of him? 222 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: Obviously we knew he was gonna be a little bit 223 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,480 Speaker 1: raw coming out of Wyoming. And if the Jets face 224 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: Josh Allen this week, uh, what kind of deef? What 225 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: kind of problems. Could this defense post for the Bills? Yeah, 226 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: well what were you know, certainly if if Alan um, 227 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,959 Speaker 1: if Alan does start, uh, you still have a rookie 228 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: and you still have the mistakes that go with playing 229 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: the position, and on top of that coming back from 230 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: being away for several weeks. So uh, I think there's 231 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: some hope on the there's a lot of hope on 232 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: the part of the Bills that him watching and and 233 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: and absorbing learning will contribute to a better effort once 234 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: he's back on the field. But you know, we'll see. Um. 235 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 1: The other thing is uh, athletically, I mean, I liked 236 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 1: the guy coming out. I I didn't you know, I 237 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: wasn't all that troubled by as many others were about 238 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: the accuracy problems and the and just the maybe the 239 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 1: lack of development that might have been there playing at Wyoming. UM. 240 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: I know he had problems with footwork, and Jordan Palmer, 241 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: the quarterback guru, worked with him on that extensively, and 242 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: and from what I understand, the Bills, you know, we're 243 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: also doing the same things with him, uh, as far 244 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: as focusing on not over striding, which led to him 245 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, led to some of his accuracy problems. But 246 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: more than that, too is how I think, you know, 247 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: his understanding of the Bill's offense is fine. He's absorbed that, 248 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: he's he's a smart play here. The question is how 249 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: well does he read? How quickly does he react? And 250 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: and I think that you know, getting rid of the 251 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: ball on time, and and you know, getting the field 252 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: for what the defense is adjusting to, how they're trying 253 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: to pool him with disguising coverages all that. Those are 254 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: the things obviously, and again you're you're watching that there 255 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: with Sam Donald. Those are the things that present problems. 256 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a good storyline this week because these 257 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: guys grew close in the spring, didn't they Vic because 258 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: you just mounted Jordan Palmer. They both actually lived with 259 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: Jordan for a period of time and got ready for 260 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: the draft exactly. And you know, I I've talked with 261 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: Jordan's multiple times in the uh this well yeah, before 262 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: the season and then early in the season about Josh. 263 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: But in in those conversations he brought up Sam and 264 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: and his close you know ties there with all of 265 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: his pupils and clients and and uh and and how 266 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 1: much you know, how how confident I think he believes 267 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,720 Speaker 1: that this group of quarterbacks not naturally the guy that 268 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: he's working with, he's gonna pump him up. You know. 269 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: I I hear what he says, and it sounds it 270 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: sounds plausible to think that there is a new you know, 271 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: there will be new faces in the a f C East, 272 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: especially that that will have longer runs. What I don't know, guys, 273 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: is you know what we're gonna see this year. But 274 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: I will say this, A two and seven Buffalo team, 275 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 1: um that that has just been horrific to watch the 276 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: Jets who have had their problems and struggling. Uh, this 277 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: is the kind of game where you know, you really 278 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: hope these two young quarterbacks are facing off because that 279 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: would frankly give it um any any level of interest 280 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 1: of making it interesting. I think, yeah, that's fair. And 281 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: the Bill has got a major overhaul on their hands 282 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: in terms of the offense and off season to get 283 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: some pieces around A four Munch and Josh Allen. What 284 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: are on McDermott and Leslie Fraser gonna dial up against 285 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: a rookie quarterback who is and during his bumps in 286 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: the road right now in Sam Donald at Leeds, the 287 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:14,000 Speaker 1: National Football League fourteen interceptions. Yeah. Look, I'd say this 288 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: is the side of the ball that has given the 289 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,119 Speaker 1: Bills and their fans at least something to smile about, 290 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: because they played pretty well. Uh. And and when you 291 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: hold Tom Brady and and that Patriot offense to one 292 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: touchdowner was a rushing touchdown and really frustrate uh, you know, 293 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: the best quarterback ever. Perhaps, uh, you should feel pretty good. 294 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: And they did, except that the offense did nothing. Uh 295 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: in that Monday night game against the Jets as crazy 296 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: as the sound guys to nine laws, where where nothing 297 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: can be good from that? Uh. In this game they 298 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,040 Speaker 1: just played against Chicago, Uh, Bills out gained the Bears. 299 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: They the yards total than the Bears. And I'm not 300 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: even sure I've been trying to look that up. How 301 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 1: how many teams have scored forty one points and still 302 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: had fewer and lost the yardage battle? But as you know, 303 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: a couple of those touchdowns were defensive touchdowns by the Bear. 304 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: So um, this defense uh is and this is the 305 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: other thing, you know, how how much more can it take? 306 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 1: You know, psychologically, I think I been saying the right things, 307 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:25,080 Speaker 1: but man, it's it's got to get frustrating. They will 308 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 1: dial up some different kind of pressures. Uh, they will 309 00:18:28,560 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: disguise coverages Leslie playing at two deep zone. Uh, there 310 00:18:32,119 --> 00:18:34,119 Speaker 1: will be a lot for Sam Donald to kind of 311 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: look at and I think trying to process. Uh, and 312 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna have his issues, not just you know, based 313 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: on what he's already done, but this defense has made 314 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: it hard for quarterbacks to get into any sort of rhythm. 315 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 1: It's crazy to think about that. The Bill's offense, like 316 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: you said, are historically bad, yet the defense is performing 317 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: pretty much from what you're saying and what statuos lights out. 318 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: So what is the strength of this Bill's defense and 319 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: what the steps have you seen from someone like Davis 320 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: White and someone who was nineteen at the time that 321 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: he got drafted, his Tremaine Edmunds. Yeah, well, I think 322 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: White's played very well. Um he's been one of the highlights. 323 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,639 Speaker 1: I think the safeties have been good. Uh not maybe 324 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: not as impressive as as they were last year, but 325 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 1: but solid enough and and coverage especially Um. Edmunds was 326 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: in concussion protocol and missed the last game. Um, he's 327 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 1: been you know, he's been a little up and down. 328 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: He's played like the young man that he is. UM. 329 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: I think athletically the talent is just incredible off the hook, 330 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:44,920 Speaker 1: but in terms of his actual uh steady contribution there, 331 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: you know, there's more that that you need to see 332 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 1: from him before I think he's ready to kind of 333 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 1: take off. The front has been impressive. Starlottola, after a 334 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 1: slow start, has played well at tackle and as part 335 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: of a rotation uh, I mean he and Kyle Williams 336 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: as starters have played well. And then as part of 337 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: a rotation that involves h Jordan Phillips uh and Harrison Phillips. Uh. 338 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: Harrison is a rookie from Stanford. Jordan's they picked up 339 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: from Miami. You know him, you've seen him. Uh and 340 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 1: and he seems to have found a new life with 341 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: this Buffalo team after being claimed off waivers from the Dolphins. 342 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: And uh and I think in general, uh, Lorenzo Alexander, 343 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: my god, at at thirty five, that guy is playing 344 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: like a like twenty five years old. He's been all 345 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: over the place, has pursued his pass rush, forcing turnovers. Uh. 346 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 1: He's he's been a beast and he'll be a handful 347 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,120 Speaker 1: I think for this Jets offense to handle as well, 348 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: last one, VIC, big picture, do you think the Bills 349 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,920 Speaker 1: and the Jets are in similar situations as far as 350 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: not just this year but short term long term. The 351 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: Jets under of this ball game three and six and 352 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 1: the three games lies Bills are two and seven. They're 353 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 1: on a four game losing streak themselves. They're both uh, 354 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: probably gonna enter free agency with a ton of money 355 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: and wanting to add some pieces around their young quarterbacks 356 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: and try to get some experience for those quarterbacks down 357 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: the stretch. And also on the other side of the ball, 358 00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: I think these are pretty solid defenses. Yeah, I think. 359 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: I think everything you've hit there is is spot on 360 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: as far as the comparisons uh and the Bills. Remember 361 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: when you when you clean out, you know, when you 362 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: send players packing and you clean uh, you sort of 363 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: do that that clean up if you of your of 364 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: your salary cap you have a lot of debt money, 365 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: and they do. Uh. They're strapped with that this year. 366 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: So that's been a problem that will go away next year, 367 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,439 Speaker 1: or most of it will, and then they will have, 368 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, to a lot of room to spend 369 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: a lot of cap room. Uh, And I would I 370 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: would envisioned I mean, you still can't fix everything in 371 00:21:57,119 --> 00:22:00,440 Speaker 1: one off season. But I think between the draft, uh 372 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: and then and then, and I think their their position, 373 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: they're gonna be position for a pretty high pick. You know, 374 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,120 Speaker 1: we assume they're not going to do a quarterback because 375 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: that was done last year. Uh, so they can maybe 376 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: address other key areas that we mentioned on offense and 377 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 1: UM and like the Jets, uh, you know, just methodically 378 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: try to build UM and I you know, and I 379 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: do think that they get that chance, certainly, Sean McDermott 380 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean at least another off season in season 381 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: to get this thing right. E A talked about it 382 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: earlier on the pod. For the Jets defense and the 383 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: Bills offensive matchup is what part of the Jets defense 384 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: do you think could give whoever starts at quarterback fits. 385 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 1: I gotta believe it's the safety play. Um. I always 386 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 1: believe that. And you know, and I think that pairing 387 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: with the Jets, you know, certainly is one that's always 388 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: been formidable or has been for me a bowl um. 389 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: And I think when you look at whoever is there, 390 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 1: I mean, the problems have been you know, let's say 391 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: it's I'm just gonna go down the list. If it's 392 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: Derrick Anderson, who's who's a possibility if he's out of 393 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: concussion protocol, his his delivery has been late at times. Uh. 394 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,639 Speaker 1: And then with with you know the same thing with 395 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:29,119 Speaker 1: Nathan Peterman. Late deliveries with good safeties usually lead to 396 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: bad things for quarterbacks. Thick. Well, we're looking forward to 397 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: seeing this weekend, buddy. Thanks so much, my pleasure. Guys, 398 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,879 Speaker 1: see you Sunday. And you can follow Vic Caruci on 399 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: Twitter at vic Caruci. He can fit his name there. 400 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: That's good and it's a good thing when you can 401 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: just put your name in Twitter. I have too much 402 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: of a common name for that? Is that a common name? 403 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: Ethan Greenberger was probably common? Yeah, yeah, Ethan's pretty common, 404 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: so I can't I can't do it. But regardless, it's 405 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: since pretty common. Huh. Yeah, it's irrelevant. But m given 406 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: this matchup this Sunday, you talked about it a little 407 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: bit before that, and on paper, the Jets should be 408 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:21,800 Speaker 1: able to dictate this game defensively, yes, I think they should. 409 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 1: But given the offensive struggles for the Jets this past 410 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: couple of weeks, what do you expect from the Jets offense? 411 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,200 Speaker 1: Bills defense matchup. I don't really know, to be honest 412 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: with you. Um, the Bills gave up less than two 413 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 1: hundred yards against the Bears, like thick with saying, and 414 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: they lost nine. Uh, this score ky get out of 415 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: whack if you create takeaways. But for all the good 416 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 1: the Jets defensively have done of late, they haven't had 417 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: a takeaway the last three games. And that's not a knock. 418 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,359 Speaker 1: They play winning football against Miami. I don't know what 419 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,880 Speaker 1: was Miami three sixteen a third down three of sixteen. 420 00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:00,200 Speaker 1: The Jets outgained the Dolphins. The Dolphins the doll Fins 421 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: had thirty four yards in the second half total or 422 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: thirty four yards, and the Jets abused a backup right 423 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 1: tackle when Juwan James went out of the lineup of 424 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: Jordan Jenkins that pick us up paras sacks. They had 425 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: four sacks, and also the pass rush was there. Um, 426 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 1: you can't fault the defense for what happened against the Dolphins. Uh. 427 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: With that being sad, I think there was an element 428 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: of accountability and locker room after the game. I didn't 429 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: sense any of the defensive guys while they were frustrated. 430 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: I think they were encouraged by the way they performed, 431 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 1: and they also know it's a team game and they 432 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 1: were not going to point any fingers. And everybody in 433 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 1: the locker room has a great amount of respect for 434 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: Donald because of his workout, his approach, the way he 435 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: is a studious about the game and really wants to 436 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: be a great player and really helped his team win. 437 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't sense that the locker room 438 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 1: is anywhere close to splinter splinterating. The Bills might have 439 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,199 Speaker 1: some issues there where Vick said they're holding it together. 440 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: But while the Jets have had offensive problems of late, 441 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: it's nothing compared to what's going on. I can't even 442 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: begin to imagine what what the offense defense discrepancy looks like, 443 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: especially in Buffalo. So but to your point, I don't know. 444 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,159 Speaker 1: I will turning the question on you, Uh, how do 445 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: you think the Jets moved the ball against the Bills? 446 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,840 Speaker 1: I think that well, first of all, I think the 447 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 1: Jets play much better at home, and you saw that 448 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 1: even when their home stretch. Yeah, so that the Jets defense, 449 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: I believe is gonna be flying around. I mean we 450 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: saw last year when the Bills came to MetLife. I 451 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: was a stomping but it's very different teams and I'm 452 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: not bringing up last year. I just think that this 453 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 1: defense is going to continue doing what it's done. But 454 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: to answer the question is how do you move the ball? 455 00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: I think that I think that you gotta try to 456 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 1: establish Quincy early because last week he I don't I 457 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: don't even know at the top of my head, but 458 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: he definitely had two receptions. One was on the third 459 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 1: down play when he's when he skied to grab uh 460 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: high pass from Donald. The other one was the screen 461 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: when he took like the entire Dolphins defense up the 462 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 1: field highlighted the game. Yeah, so I feel like that 463 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: you have to get him going early and then maybe 464 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: you get Isaiah Crowel and Eli McGuire going early. I 465 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: will say that Eli McGuire I did like what I 466 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: saw out of him. It wasn't a whole lot of 467 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: run game for the Jets against the Dolphins, but yeah, 468 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: I thought Eli looked pretty fresh as you would as 469 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: you would expect, but I thought he had a nice 470 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: burst and for someone that we were excited to see 471 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: after a good spring, and unfortunately he heard his foot 472 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: the first practice of training camp I'm excited to see 473 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,679 Speaker 1: what the Jets can do with him. I would agree 474 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 1: with all that. So I don't know how many Russia temps. 475 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 1: So we're against the Dolphins, I would anticipate, and we 476 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: talked about these numbers every week. Red it's that I 477 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: think the Jets will want to get their rushed total up. 478 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: It doesn't even matter with the arts. Yes, you want 479 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 1: to have the ards, but you have more of an 480 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: opportunity to spring along one the more carries you have. 481 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 1: So I like what I saw Eli McGuire and Quincy 482 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: and Nona is energy and he provides a spark and 483 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 1: he would get the fans in this game. And it's 484 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: jaf Pennington continues to say every week Jets flight Plan, 485 00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 1: Sunday Morning, CBS inside the Pocket. So Jets are a 486 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 1: good screen team, so maybe you see some more screens. 487 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: Well remember in week three against the Browns, it seemed 488 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: like the Jets always ran the screen. It was screen here, 489 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: screen there, but not buster And the screens can set 490 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:59,600 Speaker 1: other things up per se uh. For example, Chris Herne's 491 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 1: touched on. Oh yeah that was but that was a 492 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: beautiful play, right, so put everybody in Indianapolis was like, okay, 493 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: screen gets a running on the screen, and then they're 494 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: running a bunch of goals and there's Chris Herton in 495 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 1: the first first professional touchdown. So what you do successfully 496 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: can lead to something off of that, So screens that 497 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,400 Speaker 1: also gets the quarterback comfortable. He obviously didn't see the 498 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: field really well against the Dolphins, and he hurried some things. Uh, 499 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 1: and he was very hard on himself. It's very rare 500 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 1: in today's day and age where a professional athlete will 501 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: say it played stupid. Yeah, it was probably over the 502 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: top part on himself, but I think that people in 503 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: the locker room don't respect that because he's honestly assessing 504 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: himself even though he's been too harsh of a greater. 505 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: And he also said everybody around him was doing their jobs. 506 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: That wins a locker room. And that's how we closed 507 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: the Official Jets Podcast. Don't think you will have a 508 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:13,640 Speaker 1: problem closing this one. We'll see you next week.