1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: The game's over on the world. You played to win. 2 00:00:05,720 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: The game's got a Jet touchdown, can't. You're listening to 3 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: the official Jets podcast, Jets three sixty production. All right, 4 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Green's this is a special treat. Let's bring in a 5 00:00:27,280 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: Jets fan who's working down south right about now, and 6 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: that's Ralph Macchio, who ethan. This guy continues to be 7 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,599 Speaker 1: big in his acting career, but when I was growing up, 8 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: it was all about the karate kids. And here he is, 9 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: Ralph Macchio. Thank you so much for joining us. Great 10 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,000 Speaker 1: to be on guys. Thanks so much. Man, it's funny. 11 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: Hey a Long Island native, Ralph grew up in Ning Ten, 12 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: New York. Of course, that's Strong Island, Long Island, Strong Island. 13 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: Can you describe your Jets fandom? Uh coming up as 14 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: a youngster, Oh yeah, I mean listen, I early day 15 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: remembrance is probably I would say some of the earliest 16 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: sports memories. Well, it was a big year sixty nine 17 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 1: with the New York Mets on the baseball side, but 18 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: the New York Jets on on the football side. I mean, 19 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, I had my It's it's recently past Halloween, 20 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: and I I was Joe name. It would like at 21 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 1: eight years old, you know, with the big shoulder pads, 22 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: and there's just ninety eight probably probably sixty five pound 23 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: weekling at the time, maybe fifty two pound weekling at 24 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: the time. Um dressed up his name it is and 25 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: had all the all the posters of Emerson Boozer and 26 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: all those uh, all those guys back in the I'm 27 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: dating myself, but back in the heyday of of that 28 00:01:56,200 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: that amazing time, and then through the through the seasons, uh, 29 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: you know, until you know, back in when I used 30 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: to freeze my butt off at at Chase Stadium. Uh, 31 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: just freezing handful of games back in the I would 32 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,360 Speaker 1: the seventies eighties, then into the you know, into the 33 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: sack exchange years, and so I'm always there. What was 34 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: that connection? Why was it in Long Island that Hey, listen, 35 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,200 Speaker 1: you're growing up and you're about Ralph Macchio's age, you're 36 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: probably picking the Jets, the Mets and the Islanders and 37 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: vice versa. If you're going old school, you probably are 38 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: picking the Giants, the New York Rangers hockey wise, and 39 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: of course the New York Yankees, Right, I think I 40 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: don't know. For me, I think it was, first of all. 41 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 1: I mean when I was you know, I was in 42 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: grade school, you know, early grade school, those were the 43 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: teams that were good. Uh the Islanders, not yet they 44 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: hadn't Islanders and seventy two, but as a long Islander 45 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 1: that was our own team, I mean, as our backyard, 46 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: suburban major sports teams. So that's why I hoped into 47 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: the Islanders. And it didn't take long for them to 48 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,919 Speaker 1: win a Stanley Cup in within uh, you know, within 49 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: eight years. But as far as the Jets, you know, 50 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: it's mentioned nine six nine around that time, and the 51 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,679 Speaker 1: Mets as well. Those were those those at the back 52 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: page and front page of all the newspapers. So I 53 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: think that probably lend itself to me going to that 54 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: direction at a young age. I hope you're aware of this, 55 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: because I wasn't until rather recently that you have your 56 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:41,240 Speaker 1: own bobble head in an Islander's uniform. Yes, I do. 57 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: That one's off the bucket list. Yeah. They were very cool. 58 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: You know. Listen, I go all in as a fan, 59 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: as anyone in the Jets organization could say. I've always 60 00:03:50,920 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, any time I could get out to the 61 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: games and I'm and any time I go watch them 62 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: and and follow the team. I I really I'm a 63 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: big sports fan. And with the Islanders, they they at 64 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: this promotion last year and it really was a big 65 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: success and it was a lot of fun. Um to 66 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 1: sort of pay homage to, uh, to the Daniel Russo character, 67 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: but to keep him a hockey player. Um. And it's 68 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. And even with the Jets, I 69 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: did the j T S Jets Jets Jets chant a 70 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: couple of years ago at the center of the you know, 71 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: of of the gridiron, and uh, it was a lot 72 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: of fun. It was a lot of fun. I share 73 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: in office with our senior director of commerce, that's Chris Pierce, 74 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: and maybe I can work on getting you a Jets boblehead. 75 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 1: I listen, I'm I'm all. I would love to have 76 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 1: my three favorite teams. Uh, you know at the head 77 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:46,159 Speaker 1: of the desk. You know, we're just I'm all. I'm 78 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 1: all in for for participating and bringing attention to the 79 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: teams that I've always was for, despite sometimes complaining about 80 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: each organization for some reason. As the fan, Uh, could 81 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: you always want to be better all the time? That's 82 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: just passion. You're you're in your fifties now, but I 83 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: consider yourself a youngster just like me, but you are 84 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,839 Speaker 1: a dad. Have you passed on your Jets fandom to 85 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: your children? Yes, certainly, certainly. They all they're they're and 86 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: my daughter is she's twenty five now, believe that or not. 87 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: My son is twenty two, just recently. It's crazy, but 88 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: it is true. Uh as and as I don't understand 89 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: it since I'm only in my mid thirties, or at 90 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: least in my mind. Uh So, yeah, it's great to 91 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: share all that stuff. I mean, they share the frustrations 92 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 1: as well, and uh, it's it's all good. It's all 93 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 1: good fun in the crazy world we uh we live 94 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: in to just you know, rally around something that's that's uh, 95 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: that's fun that you could all do together. That's what 96 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: I love about sports. And you know what sports could 97 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: do with a city like Houston, what they've just been through. 98 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: It's nice to see people able to come together in 99 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: something that's uh, you know, in the backdrop of such 100 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: tragedy to a city, that a city can rally like that, 101 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: and you know, that's one of the great things that 102 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:11,040 Speaker 1: sports does. If you could work with any current and 103 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: former Jet who would it be and why I could 104 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: see you working with bart Scott bart Scott, Yeah, if 105 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,479 Speaker 1: I could get in one word edge y, but I 106 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: would say, you know, I was a big Freeman McNeil 107 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: fan back in that mid section the time. For some reason, 108 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: I used to really enjoy Oh another thing, that's funny. 109 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,599 Speaker 1: I never forget I had a um I guess it 110 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: was Sean Green when we beat the Patriots. He put 111 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: the Patriots to bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I love 112 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 1: that was like my me and my son both had 113 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 1: that ring tone of that that play call I gotta tell, 114 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: I Gotta tell white shoes when she wasn't about that. 115 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: I'll love that. Yeah, we had that for a little while. 116 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: And then we also even my my I believe my 117 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: my daughter, who's not the biggest football fan, at one 118 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 1: point they can't wait, uh you know at the bart 119 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 1: Scotts can't wait. You know, anybody can be you know. 120 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: I love the Sol interview. It's just that's a that's 121 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: a that's a YouTube sensation. Yeah, you're certainly right about that. So, Ralph, 122 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: what projects are you currently working on right now? What? 123 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: What can you tell me about The Deuce season two? 124 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: And then, uh, well, go with that first and then 125 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: we'll get to the other show later. Yeah, the other 126 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: show is happening right now. Is big news. The Deuce 127 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: has been. The Deuce has been, uh, just a great experience. 128 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: Where Season two starts up, I believe in February production wise, 129 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: so it'll be a solid year before before that that 130 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: comes out. But it is such a critical success and 131 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: so such a well done uh drama that David Simon 132 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: and George Pelicanos those guys that didn't wire and they're 133 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: just phenomenal writer is and its top shelf creatively. It's 134 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: early seventies it uh, it's really the authenticity of that 135 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: time in that era because like as were mentioning, you know, 136 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: the Jets back in the late sixties, early seventies. I 137 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: remember that time as a kid, and I remember that 138 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: area of New York City Times Square, and it wasn't 139 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: it wasn't um you know, the Lion King and Aladdin 140 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: like she is now. It was a different at different times. 141 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: I've played his vice cop on the show always, and 142 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: this was when the police department was certainly uh crooked 143 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: and on the take as everyone else was, and and 144 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: uh and and making money off of you know, not 145 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: quite honorable things. Um, but The Deuce is a great 146 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: project to be involved with. I don't I bet it's 147 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: a you know, not a big role in it, but 148 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 1: I got to be in five of the eight episodes 149 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:55,079 Speaker 1: and I'm proud to be part of it. And I 150 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 1: didn't kill me off yet, So we'll see what happens there. 151 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,439 Speaker 1: And then the other a show, which is the biggest 152 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,199 Speaker 1: news going on right now for me, is you mentioned 153 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: the Karate Kid earlier and Daniel L. Russo and that 154 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: the legacy of that character in that film and the 155 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: pop culture that it has become over more than three decades. Now. Um, 156 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 1: we are shooting a show called Cobra Kai and uh 157 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: and that will be out on YouTube read, which is 158 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 1: a premium service. Everything is streaming television now being Nets, Legs, Amazon, 159 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: Hulu and now YouTube um um and it's uh, it's 160 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: thirty years uh plus later. Um. Johnny Lawrence, the lay 161 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 1: by williams. Zapka, who is the blonde haired bully who 162 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: was kicked in the face with the infamous crane kick, 163 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,240 Speaker 1: the one move that I had in my arsenal and 164 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: uh we crossed paths thirty years later and it's he 165 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: opens He's go heading to open the Cobra Kai Do show, 166 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: but a very successful Daniel Russo will not let that 167 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: happen on his watch and uh and great great stories 168 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: and sue, Um, it's it's and it also we also 169 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: infuse a whole new high school generation for two thousand 170 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: and eighteen, UM on the relevance of what what it 171 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: life is like at that age and with through martial arts, 172 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: and also what bullying is in today's day and age 173 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: versus what it was in Um, it's much more complicated 174 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: now and so but it is got a lot of 175 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: comedic elements to it, a lot of heart and soul 176 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: and nostalgia. But you know, whether you're a fan of 177 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: the movie or not, this show should be very entertaining 178 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: for everyone. But if you are a fan of the movie, 179 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: it will get your geek on as far as a 180 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 1: fan because we will pepper in little pieces of great 181 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 1: callbacks to what created that franchise. And it was just 182 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: the right time and the it's the right time to 183 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: do it. I've said no for thirty years the right 184 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 1: here's who created this concept, um really have a handle 185 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: on it and uh, and it was fresh and original 186 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: and it's the perfect time for it, and the ground 187 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: swell of attention it's been getting just from people in anticipation, 188 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: it's it's exciting. So the scripts are good and it'll 189 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: be out. It looks like this spring ten episodes and 190 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: that's hopefully season one of many. Well we shall see. 191 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 1: Well we're wishing your lock in that production. But hey, 192 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: where is most of that being shot right now? It's 193 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: being shot in Atlanta and some Los Angeles. Um it 194 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 1: takes plates in Los Angeles. Um as is the case 195 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: the business, it's show business, not always show art. And 196 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: the tax incentives the shooting Atlanta, uh and then around 197 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: Georgia or or why there are forty productions in Atlanta 198 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: right now, including ant Man and the Avengers and the 199 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 1: Stranger Things in the Walking deads and it's just become 200 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: like Hollywood South and for us, we're gonna go to 201 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and shoot the larger exterior pieces. Um. So 202 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: you could tie in the two together. When you finished 203 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,800 Speaker 1: up that movie, how old were you and at that time, Ralph, 204 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: were you thinking, Uh, yeah, this is gonna be a 205 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 1: pretty big deal. Um No, none of us, none of 206 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: us knew. We didn't have a clue to the director 207 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: has Gona recorded say saying that, and myself as well. 208 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,320 Speaker 1: We didn't. We thought, you know, it was going well. 209 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 1: We felt I certainly felt that my scenes with with Pat, 210 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: the late great Pat Marito were had a special quality 211 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: to them. But as far as I mean, you cannot. 212 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 1: You know, if you could sign up and create this 213 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: all the time you did, there'd be a lot more 214 00:12:48,600 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: hits out there. You know. This is just one of 215 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: those that just hit at the right time, the right cast, 216 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: the right filmmakers, to right scripts. And uh, I was 217 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: twenty one turned two at the time. Um, you know, 218 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: on the Macheo curve, you always have to pull eight 219 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: years of my I played sixteen for thirty seven years, 220 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: is always my joke. Um, But so I was the 221 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: perennial sixteen year old for for a very long time. 222 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: And uh, it's just we didn't know. We did not know, 223 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,079 Speaker 1: I will say this much. When we saw the film 224 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: for the first time in a packed house, the producer 225 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: said a story I told many times. The producer Jerry Weinschov, 226 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: leaned over to me and when we walked outside and 227 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: saw people doing the crane pose in the street and 228 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: on there you know, on park benches, and whether they 229 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: were ten years old or fifty years old, he said, 230 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: we're going to be making a couple of these, And 231 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: so you kind of knew when you walked out of 232 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 1: the theater. Yeah, there was. It's just like when you 233 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,439 Speaker 1: sing in the lead song of a great musical. That's 234 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: how you know you have a hit. So but who 235 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: knew to get him a body back? The leg and 236 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: wax on wax off would be like an the dictionary. Now, hey, 237 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: the people still stop you at the airport when you're 238 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: flying between Atlanta and New York in l A. It's say, hey, man, 239 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: there's the karate kid. Yeah, it's you know, it's it's something. Uh, 240 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: it's something that I that I carry proudly on my shoulder. Um, 241 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, and listen, it's a good He's a 242 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: great character. He was the every kid next door back 243 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: in the day. And I think that's one of the 244 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: reasons it has worked and continues to hold up because 245 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: he represented a piece of all of us. He had 246 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: no business winning anything. So the fact that he succeeded 247 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: and overcame those obstacles sounds like the Jackson nineteen Yeah, exactly, 248 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: exact if you get sports analogies, I use him every day. Hey, 249 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: every day. My thing about you is, you're sitting here 250 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: now fifty five years old. You played so many different 251 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: roles over the years. How challenging was it post karate 252 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: kid for a while to be cast in a new 253 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: role and ultimately by this time you're obviously way beyond that. 254 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: Now now you're playing cops who are on the take 255 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:28,280 Speaker 1: in New York City in the seventies. But what about 256 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 1: the challenge of that moving on from it? It's it's listen, 257 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: they're always you know, uh, scenarios where you're on the 258 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: stereotype or pigeonholeding casting and you're constantly needing to reinvent yourself, 259 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: um creatively and also in the minds of of of 260 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 1: the audience and the studios end or networks as the 261 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: people the buyers, if you will, you know, they categorized. 262 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just it's it is challenging. As 263 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: I always tell the story with my cousin and Vinny, 264 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: which was a film that I really had to go 265 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 1: in and and I didn't have to win over the 266 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: director and producer, but the studio was just a blanket 267 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: nag you don't want him. He was you know that 268 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: you were fantastic, thank you very much and mean and 269 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: and it was but that's was That's the story. That 270 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: is the classic story is I just I just came 271 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 1: off sort of the arc of of a big success 272 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: and had a little bit of that lull time. As 273 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: always ebbs and flows and and so on. The list 274 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: for whatever reason to play in Italian from New York 275 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: as Joe Pesci's cousin didn't make casting sense, which is 276 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: kind of hideous. Um and uh, but you know, yeah, 277 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: and so I had to get in there and I had, 278 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: you know, it was a fight. And then but as 279 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: soon as I went in audition for the his director 280 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 1: who was in English from England, and he says, I 281 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: don't understand what the problem is. This is the perfect 282 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: eye for the part. What did you like as about 283 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:05,040 Speaker 1: that role, about my cousin, Minnie? The role is because 284 00:17:05,040 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: I felt I felt like I knew that guy. I 285 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: I never took the cross country trip from uh from 286 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: you know, as as they were doing, and I never 287 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: got taught stealing tune in Beecham County, Alabama. But but 288 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: then I never shot the clerk. But I I felt 289 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: like I I connected to that guy. I knew Joe 290 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 1: Pesci from running into him. I was working on Broadway 291 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: with Robert de Niro in a play called Koban His 292 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: Teddy Bear, and Joe him to see the play a 293 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: few times, and that's how I got to know him. 294 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: So I felt a little all in the family there. 295 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: The best part of being involved with that, that film 296 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: is one it has become. It's one of those films 297 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,160 Speaker 1: that I call it the late for dinner movie. Anytime 298 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: it's on, you're gonna be late for dinner because you 299 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: just can't watch one scene only and uh and then 300 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 1: and then the birth of Marissa Tomay and that's that 301 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: spectacular performance. It's just anytime you could be in something. 302 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: And I look at The Outsiders, another film home that 303 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: that has sort of stood that at the time I 304 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 1: got I got lucky on a couple of them back 305 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:08,119 Speaker 1: in the day, and they still resonate somewhat. So you 306 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: deal with the typecast the best you can and uh, 307 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: and just try to continue doing good work. And you 308 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: can't control at all. All you could control is the 309 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: amount of focus, energy, passion you put into anything you do. 310 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: I have I've been a victim of the Late for 311 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: Dinner movie because of my cousin Vinny multiple times. I 312 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: really like that analogy. I'm gonna start using that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 313 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: because it's one of those wands. Listen, you turn it 314 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: on and like you said, Ralph, like this movie. It's great. 315 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: This is a classic part. Don't move no, Okay, we're 316 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 1: supposed to eat at seven, we end up eating at nine. 317 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: That's right, because it's the payoffs. They they they the 318 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: setups all payoff and lead into the next and it 319 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: and the hurdles get bigger and bigger for the for 320 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: the protagonists, for the Joe Pesci charriage. Karate Kid has 321 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: that too, where you just you know, everything that's set 322 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 1: up at the the chores on the waxing the car 323 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: and sending the tech and painting pay off, and Mike 324 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: cousin video you know, interestingly has those parallels, but in 325 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: a comedic way. All right, listen, you have an open invitation, 326 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: as you should know, and I hope you do know 327 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: by now, to Carmere, to the facility anytime you want. 328 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: You're gonna come to the game. I know you're a 329 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 1: busy man. We're gonna be checking out The Deuce season two, 330 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: and that's on HBO where you're playing a cap um 331 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: and also Cobra Kay is coming out in the spring. 332 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: You're working hard on that someone. We know obviously you 333 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,400 Speaker 1: got a demanding schedule, but you are a passionate Jets fan, 334 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: so you are welcome home anytime you want. And my 335 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: last question for you at Ralph Machio on Twitter is 336 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: what are the secrets to looking so young, so youthful 337 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: at your young age? Yeah? Know, and I have a 338 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 1: birthday around the corner and literally within the next couple 339 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: of days. Uh, it's I blame my parents. It's their fault, 340 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I would love to have the 341 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: magic potion. Um, a decently clean lifestyle. Decently I enjoy that. 342 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that adult average when I you should have 343 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: and I do, and certainly on a football Sunday it's 344 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: so he's the sweeter. But for the most part, try 345 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: to lead a clean, healthy life best I can. And uh, 346 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 1: but it's good jeans. I mean, I just, um, you know, 347 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 1: my parents are in pushing eighty and they look like 348 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,679 Speaker 1: they're in their mid sixties, you know, and so uh 349 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: so I got I got cursed with that blessing. Let's 350 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: put it that way, all right, with that curse, keep 351 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,520 Speaker 1: on living clean, Ralph. But when you come up here, 352 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: I'll buy you a couple of pops because you deserve. 353 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: I look forward to that. I wish I wish I 354 00:20:58,560 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: had more week to get up to this year. I 355 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 1: love getting out to the games and being there for 356 00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: the warm up on the field, and I brought my 357 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: family out a few times and we have some great 358 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: memories from that, and we will do more of that 359 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,680 Speaker 1: when I'm when I'm back up there. Thanks so much. 360 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: Great catching up with you, all right, guys, enjoy man 361 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: you will all right there. You have it. Make sure 362 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: to stay tuned. As he said, we got inside the 363 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 1: Jets every Monday, we got the game preview later in 364 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: the week, and then of course now we got the 365 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: celebrity section here recover all your bases on the Official 366 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: Jets podcast. That's all we got for Eric Allen, Ralph Maccio, 367 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: anything Greenberg,