Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom much is the shelter in
Speaker 1: place order coming to New York City? Will it be
Speaker 1: followed with different orders like it in cities and perhaps
Speaker 1: towns across the country. Plus, how is this economic rescue
Speaker 1: package coming along? Is the Department of Defense going to
Speaker 1: be called in? And I've got at least one idea
Speaker 1: to try to help ease this period for folks who
Speaker 1: are on the front lines. We got that and more
Speaker 1: coming up on The buck Sexton Show. This is the
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Speaker 1: He's a great guy. No. Well, from the buck Sexton Show, everybody,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for being here. Thank you for
Speaker 1: joining me during what is clearly a very challenging time
Speaker 1: in this country. We are in the midst of a pandemic,
Speaker 1: or at least pandemic preparations the likes of which we
Speaker 1: have never seen before. Understandably, people are deeply, deeply concerned
Speaker 1: about this. I don't think the word concern even really
Speaker 1: covers the feeling right now of a lot of folks
Speaker 1: across the country, and I mean this in all seriousness.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to try to stay with my overall
Speaker 1: promise to you that I will limit to degree that
Speaker 1: I can unnecessary partisan commentary during the show. Now that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean there won't be any, because there's always and
Speaker 1: we're going to be in this for months, Okay, I
Speaker 1: meaning that there's going to be this problem. I don't
Speaker 1: know what degree, but coronavirus is here for months at
Speaker 1: a minimum, maybe not to the same level we're seeing
Speaker 1: it now with a different and we're going to walk
Speaker 1: through all this together or give you all the latest
Speaker 1: on everything. But this is a moment in time when
Speaker 1: we can take a step back and be people first,
Speaker 1: before we are politicos, before we are partisans. There will
Speaker 1: be some pushback that'll have to do, and that'll even
Speaker 1: come today against anyone who is lying about the President,
Speaker 1: trying to make it harder for us, trying to make
Speaker 1: things more difficult for the President's response team to do
Speaker 1: everything they're trying to do. But overall, we will be
Speaker 1: in a position I think where we can say, okay,
Speaker 1: let's focus first here on what's really happening. What we
Speaker 1: know is going on. You know, I'm here in New
Speaker 1: York and we're about to in the next twenty four
Speaker 1: hours find out because de Blasio, the mayor here, has
Speaker 1: said that it'll be that time period when he determines
Speaker 1: in consultation with the state, because really the city doesn't
Speaker 1: have those full police powers without this dates say so
Speaker 1: and you'll quarantine powers are very tied into police powers.
Speaker 1: Public health authorities are at the state level. You know.
Speaker 1: It's not like a city can decide, oh, we're a
Speaker 1: Corona free zone, so we'll do whatever we want. But
Speaker 1: we might have a situation like what they have in
Speaker 1: San Francisco where you're just not really allowed to leave
Speaker 1: your house unless you're considered a central personnel or you're
Speaker 1: going to get food or medicine. That's it. Forget about
Speaker 1: social distancing. This is the end of socializing, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to try to strike as much of a balance
Speaker 1: as I can as we go through this. I'm hopeful
Speaker 1: that within a few weeks we will feel much better
Speaker 1: about this whole situation than we do right now. We'll
Speaker 1: feel like, at least it's somewhat under control. I am
Speaker 1: hopeful about that. I can't guarantee it. Obviously, no one
Speaker 1: can guarantee much of anything these days. The economy is
Speaker 1: in a terrifying spot. Now, how frightened should we be
Speaker 1: of the virus? That really remains to be seen. We
Speaker 1: have to see what the numbers are. But if economy
Speaker 1: stays like this, We've never been through something like this before.
Speaker 1: This isn't one sector dragging everything down. This isn't one
Speaker 1: aspect of our fiscal policy that's causing all kinds of problems.
Speaker 1: We are going to be in for a terrible economic
Speaker 1: ride here across the board, because we are in the
Speaker 1: midst of what is effectively a total freeze on the economy.
Speaker 1: Is this is going to be rough. The economic side
Speaker 1: is definitely going to be rough. There's no question about that.
Speaker 1: And I think that you can even see and I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: As I sit here, I'm sometimes force myself to pause
Speaker 1: because I go, oh, I just touched my face. I
Speaker 1: can't stop the You know, I only do it when
Speaker 1: I'm home. But when you realize how often you touch
Speaker 1: your face, then you realize how much more you need
Speaker 1: to wash your hands. It's tough to escape this stuff.
Speaker 1: It's with you all the time. It stays in your
Speaker 1: mind constantly, so to give you a sense of just
Speaker 1: how bad the circle umstances really are. Right now. You
Speaker 1: have people who are very quick and having very quick
Speaker 1: to be deeply critical of the president on everything, and
Speaker 1: I would say, in many cases unfairly critical of the president.
Speaker 1: You have some of those people coming forward to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's actually handle this as adults, and the President's doing
Speaker 1: a good job. Here is a Governor Cuomo of New
Speaker 1: York for example, play clip three. This government has done somersaults.
Speaker 1: It's performed better than ever before. I am telling you
Speaker 1: this government cannot meet this crisis without the resources and
Speaker 1: capacity of the federal government. I spoke to the President
Speaker 1: this morning again he is ready, willing and able to help.
Speaker 1: I've been speaking with members of his stash late last
Speaker 1: night early this morning. We need their health, especially on
Speaker 1: the hospital capacity issue. We need FEMA. FEMA has tremendous resources.
Speaker 1: When I was at HUT, I worked with FEMA. I
Speaker 1: know what they can do. I know what the Army
Speaker 1: Corps of Engineers can do. They have a capacity that
Speaker 1: we simply do not have. I said to the President,
Speaker 1: who is a New Yorker who I've known for many
Speaker 1: many years. I put my hand out in partnership. I
Speaker 1: want to work together one I need your help. I
Speaker 1: want your help, and New Yorkers will do everything they
Speaker 1: can to be good partners with the federal government. I
Speaker 1: think the President was one hundred percent sincere in saying
Speaker 1: that he wanted to work together in partnership and a
Speaker 1: spirit of cooppudence. He has taken evidence that his team
Speaker 1: has been on it. I know a team when they're
Speaker 1: on it, and I know a team when they're not
Speaker 1: on it. His team is on it, been responsive late
Speaker 1: at night, early in the morning, and they've thus far
Speaker 1: been doing everything that they can do. And I want
Speaker 1: to say thank you, and I want to say that
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. All right, What is he really referring
Speaker 1: to in terms of the imminent fight ahead? I mean,
Speaker 1: that's the governor of New York. New York just because
Speaker 1: of population density is now they're the most cases in
Speaker 1: New York, and we are going to end up having
Speaker 1: the most fatalities here. And this will also be viewed,
Speaker 1: I think as a test case, because if social distancing
Speaker 1: and the policies that they're putting in place can work here,
Speaker 1: they can obviously work anywhere. A lot of you listening
Speaker 1: to this live in parts of the country where there
Speaker 1: are far fewer cases, there's far less human population density
Speaker 1: to worry about in the first place. So if it
Speaker 1: can work in New York, it'll obviously work out in Indiana, Texas, Utah, Minnesota,
Speaker 1: you name it, right, a lot of places where this
Speaker 1: will be able to be much more easily, I think
Speaker 1: put into effect. It's going to be painful for everybody,
Speaker 1: but it's more difficult here than it is in other places.
Speaker 1: So then that brings me to the hospital bed issue.
Speaker 1: Here's what we're being told the fifteen days to flatten
Speaker 1: the curve. Everyone's been crunching the numbers on what's happening
Speaker 1: in Italy, and flatten the curve has become a phrase,
Speaker 1: almost a rallying cry now for people who want there
Speaker 1: to be very serious, immediate, severe measures taken to avoid
Speaker 1: the fate of Italy, which is really what everyone points
Speaker 1: to right now. And I would note that Spain and
Speaker 1: France and Germany, it's not clear how far behind Italy
Speaker 1: they are. But what happened in Italy was you had
Speaker 1: too many infections too quickly at the same time, and
Speaker 1: the hospital system is just overwhelmed, meaning they do not
Speaker 1: have enough ICU beds, they don't have enough medical practitioners.
Speaker 1: A lot of their medical practitioners got COVID nineteen, a
Speaker 1: lot of them came down with the disease wuhan virus. Again,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna call it the different things, because there's a
Speaker 1: lot of things that we can call it. But that's
Speaker 1: that's what ended up being the case in Italy. And
Speaker 1: we can see that and look at the projections of
Speaker 1: infections there on a time graph, number of infections and
Speaker 1: number of a number of days that have passed, and
Speaker 1: we are considered to be about eight to ten days
Speaker 1: right now behind where Italy was before their crisis completely exploded.
Speaker 1: Or perhaps we're even eight to ten days behind Italy period.
Speaker 1: I mean, it depends on how you're going to line
Speaker 1: up the numbers, what part, what part of the north
Speaker 1: of Italy we're talking about, or if we're just talking
Speaker 1: about some cities, some sections, so we're not far behind them.
Speaker 1: And we're trying to make sure that we don't have
Speaker 1: a situation here where the ICU beds are all full,
Speaker 1: because then people show up and they say I can't breathe.
Speaker 1: If they're in the high risk population. I'm having trouble breathing.
Speaker 1: I think I think I have COVID nineteen. What can
Speaker 1: we do about this? And the response will be We're
Speaker 1: going to do everything we can, but we don't have
Speaker 1: If we take somebody else off a ventilator, that person's
Speaker 1: going to die. So you get into this really horrible, inhumane,
Speaker 1: but unavoidable first come, first served to the ventilator situation,
Speaker 1: which is terrifying to people. So we are trying to
Speaker 1: avoid that here, and that's what the flattened the curve
Speaker 1: mantra is all about. We have efforts being made now
Speaker 1: to get ahead of this. The Army Corps of Engineers,
Speaker 1: Department of Defense. You know, the military has an ability
Speaker 1: to set up field hospitals that may be happening. Now,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of discussion about taking perhaps empty university space,
Speaker 1: because the universities have all been emptied out across the
Speaker 1: country pretty much, taking them and setting up additional hospital
Speaker 1: bed setting up additional facilities. As I've been saying, this
Speaker 1: is considered an all it is an all hands on
Speaker 1: deck situation. Now we know now we know that this
Speaker 1: disease is more dangerous than the flu, it is more
Speaker 1: severe and it's very, very highly infectious. Stars years ago
Speaker 1: was terrifying until we realize that you really weren't able
Speaker 1: to pass on Stars unless you add the extreme symptoms
Speaker 1: of Stars. The problem we're having with COVID nineteen is
Speaker 1: that they think now people are not only do they
Speaker 1: not know they're infected, but they're they're spreading the infection
Speaker 1: while not having any symptoms, which just means that no
Speaker 1: matter how judicious a person is about public announcements, that
Speaker 1: everything else, unless they social distance, whether they have symptoms
Speaker 1: or not, they may be spreading the virus to other people.
Speaker 1: So that's that's where this is right now. And you know,
Speaker 1: then there's the troubling analysis that we saw that you're
Speaker 1: seeing probably this morning about how long this is going
Speaker 1: to last. I want to get into the timelines a
Speaker 1: little bit here, and also just to a promise to you,
Speaker 1: we're going to talk about some other things today. I
Speaker 1: will always take any suggestions for just or history, deep
Speaker 1: dives or subject matter that you want me to address
Speaker 1: here on the show, because we're in for a long haul,
Speaker 1: certainly weeks, maybe months. This story is not going away.
Speaker 1: Journalists are not chasing anything else. There's not a lot
Speaker 1: of other information gathering going on out there right now,
Speaker 1: because this is the single biggest problem facing all of humanity.
Speaker 1: Not climate change, by the way, but I'll try to
Speaker 1: keep the climate change snark to a minimum for now.
Speaker 1: Glad we had the community of world scientists focusing for
Speaker 1: the last decade on something that's a non problem, when
Speaker 1: a problem like this was sneaking up on us and
Speaker 1: people knew, which was just a matter of time. And
Speaker 1: now here we are facing a depression and I don't
Speaker 1: even know how you can describe the disruptions of life
Speaker 1: that we might be under. This is also where I
Speaker 1: tell you we will get through. We will be okay.
Speaker 1: I'm here for you, you are here for me, and
Speaker 1: in the end we're all going to be all right.
Speaker 1: But it's going to be a rough ride. You're in
Speaker 1: the freedom. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. I mean, look,
Speaker 1: this is just coming back to where this conversation started.
Speaker 1: After the press conference, I hear with Sanjay Is saying
Speaker 1: about Tony Faucci giving you a little bit more wiggle
Speaker 1: room than others. But if you look at the big picture,
Speaker 1: this was remarkable from the President of the United States.
Speaker 1: This is a nonpartisan. This is an important thing to
Speaker 1: note and to applaud from an American standpoint, from a
Speaker 1: from a human standpoint, he is being the kind of
Speaker 1: leader that people need, at least in tone today and yesterday,
Speaker 1: in tone that people need and want and yearn for
Speaker 1: in times of crisis and uncertainty. When a CNN political analyst,
Speaker 1: that was Donna Bash at CNN is saying the president's
Speaker 1: leadership is needed right now and he's doing a good job,
Speaker 1: and I mean this in all honesty, you know, it's serious.
Speaker 1: I haven't heard anything like that from anybody who works
Speaker 1: for that news organization. In over three years, I've heard
Speaker 1: a completely consistent stream of the exact opposite, actually, that
Speaker 1: President Trump was a traitor and horrible and ruining the
Speaker 1: country and a threat to democracy. And now we see
Speaker 1: what is effectively a threat to humanity. And it does
Speaker 1: remind us all of what a bunch of petty nonsense
Speaker 1: the country was put through for years. You know, we
Speaker 1: could have been focusing on real problems, real challenges, things
Speaker 1: like infectious disease, dealing with poverty, dealing with upward mobility.
Speaker 1: We could have done that, that could have been where
Speaker 1: the media's attention was, but no, instead it was just
Speaker 1: a steady stream of Trump hatred. They do bear responsibility,
Speaker 1: not just for crying wolf, which certainly slowed some of
Speaker 1: the recognition that the country had about the severity of this,
Speaker 1: because the media says everything Trump does is horrible, and
Speaker 1: they say anything that challenged any challenge that Trump faces
Speaker 1: he's not up to. So that affected the analysis that
Speaker 1: many of us did on whether or not this should
Speaker 1: be taken as the pandemic or expected to be the
Speaker 1: pandemic that it is. And then you also have the
Speaker 1: reality of the media using its focus of the public's attention,
Speaker 1: which does direct things like resources, which does have real effects.
Speaker 1: That focus of the public's attention that could have been
Speaker 1: put to productive use, but instead was put to anti
Speaker 1: Trump't arrangement purposes that were a complete waste, a complete
Speaker 1: waste of everybody's time, a total, utter, shocking waste, and
Speaker 1: it's appalling. And they've advocated the responsibility they have the
Speaker 1: American people. Now, all right, I'm getting a little more
Speaker 1: political than I meant to, but I do have to.
Speaker 1: I also want to say, you know, thank you to
Speaker 1: Donna Bash for I know it's spelled Dana, but it
Speaker 1: actually has pronounced Donna. Thank you to Donna Bash for
Speaker 1: being honest about the situation. People need honesty right now.
Speaker 1: We need truth. We don't need partisan hacks. We don't
Speaker 1: need people that are trying to score cheap points. And
Speaker 1: this is why I know for some of you it's
Speaker 1: like nails on a chalkboard. But you know, when I
Speaker 1: play the Cuomo audio for you New York, when I've
Speaker 1: played Newsom saying that Trump's administration has been really helpful,
Speaker 1: I think it's necessary that we encourage truth telling from
Speaker 1: all signs and from anybody right now, and to the
Speaker 1: degree that we can put partisanship aside. So I mentioned
Speaker 1: the fight to get enough beds in place, and we're
Speaker 1: going to know really quickly if their projections and everything
Speaker 1: that we're being told about this are true. We're going
Speaker 1: to know in the next two to three weeks. We're
Speaker 1: going to know if what they've been saying about how
Speaker 1: desperately we need to stop the spread of this is accurate,
Speaker 1: So meaning and that the numbers that they're projecting are
Speaker 1: they coming true. Because we're doing all this and we're
Speaker 1: going to we're going to extremes here. You know, this
Speaker 1: is we're effectively shutting down our economy in order to
Speaker 1: stop what they say is the curve, or you know,
Speaker 1: from stop the spike and flatten the curve. There are
Speaker 1: some challenges that that comes with that are not even
Speaker 1: really thought through, I think at this point, one of
Speaker 1: them being that eventually people are just going to non
Speaker 1: comply and the state's gonna have a very hard time
Speaker 1: telling people that you don't get to live your life
Speaker 1: when you have a ninety nine percent chance. This is
Speaker 1: just reality. I'm just saying it. You don't get to
Speaker 1: live your life because there's a ninety nine percent chance
Speaker 1: you'll be okay, but there are other people who won't be. Eventually,
Speaker 1: people are going to say I'm going to take the risk.
Speaker 1: That's what's going to there. So we'll get into this
Speaker 1: and this is setting up something of a of an
Speaker 1: intergenerational tension that everyone's picking up on right now as well.
Speaker 1: But the fight over beds and preparation for the spike
Speaker 1: that is right now. You have to remember we are
Speaker 1: up ten times in a week nation. Why the case
Speaker 1: is here, we will be up five to ten times
Speaker 1: the number of cases next week as more testing happens,
Speaker 1: more cases will appear, and as more cases appear, there'll
Speaker 1: be greater anxiety about just how widespread this disease really is.
Speaker 1: So we have to focus right now on that fifteen
Speaker 1: day now thirteen day period that the President has been
Speaker 1: talking about. Thanks for listening to The bus Essen Show podcasts.
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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, this is where
Speaker 1: I have to take a moment to tell you that
Speaker 1: sometimes the press are, in fact the enemies of the people.
Speaker 1: That's a real thing. Some journalists right now we're doing
Speaker 1: excellent work and we need them to be bringing us
Speaker 1: facts and story. So I'm not I'm not using this
Speaker 1: as an opportunity to be smirch all journalists. Far from it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I technically I work in the media, so
Speaker 1: I'm in some ways part of the extended journalist family,
Speaker 1: I guess. But the New York Times when with a
Speaker 1: story right now, when people are at this degree of
Speaker 1: extreme unease, and remember panic, the word that I think,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've explained on this show. Interesting
Speaker 1: derivation of it comes from the Greek god of the woods,
Speaker 1: pan who had the legs of a goat and little
Speaker 1: horns and play to flute. People know the pan flute.
Speaker 1: Panic is comes from panic coasts in ancient Greece, which
Speaker 1: was the feeling you had if you were in the woods.
Speaker 1: And they're not sure if it's if you saw Pan
Speaker 1: because it was a terrifying and scary situation, or if
Speaker 1: you're just in Pan's realm, the woods, away from civilization,
Speaker 1: away from you know, your family and your protectors, and
Speaker 1: so you have extreme anxiety that that comes on. That's
Speaker 1: that's where the word panic comes from. Much. I think
Speaker 1: is interesting because you're hearing it constantly right now. But
Speaker 1: we are in this this moment in time where things
Speaker 1: are particularly uneasy. I think that's a gentle way of
Speaker 1: saying it. And I'm right in the middle of it.
Speaker 1: Him and I am doing the show right now from
Speaker 1: midtown Manhattan. Why I could walk over to Times Square
Speaker 1: in a matter of minutes and it would be empty.
Speaker 1: It looks like that scene from Vanilla Sky, one of
Speaker 1: my least favorite movies of all time. By the way,
Speaker 1: I put Vanilla Sky in the ten worst movies I've
Speaker 1: ever seen, maybe even the five worst movies I've ever
Speaker 1: seen in the theater. It was god awful. But there's
Speaker 1: a scene where Time Square is completely empty. It's like
Speaker 1: a dream sequence. It's like that right now. I mean
Speaker 1: you might see a handful of people walking around, but
Speaker 1: usually you would see hundreds, maybe a thousand or two. Right,
Speaker 1: you could see a lot of people in Times Square.
Speaker 1: And because people are scared, so we're trying to get
Speaker 1: ready for the influx that is according to all experts.
Speaker 1: I don't know an expert who disagrees with this. I
Speaker 1: haven't seen one. I should say he influx of people
Speaker 1: who are infected with COVID nineteen and are having trouble breathing,
Speaker 1: and they send day they go to the hospital and
Speaker 1: they need really serious help. And it's not like they
Speaker 1: go in, they get patched up, and they get there
Speaker 1: out in a day. They're going to be on ventilators
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, two three, four weeks, so
Speaker 1: that each ventilator that someone gets on has taken offline
Speaker 1: for a long period of time. And the President was
Speaker 1: on a conference call with governors from around the nation,
Speaker 1: and this is what the New York Times reported, Trump
Speaker 1: to governors on ventilators, try getting it yourselves, and people
Speaker 1: were reporting this as wow, how could he, Oh, he's
Speaker 1: so awful. Respirators, ventilators, all the equipment, Try getting it yourselves,
Speaker 1: And there were people the New York Times you were
Speaker 1: sharing this like this was an appalling thing for the
Speaker 1: President to say. Well, he also said, the full quote
Speaker 1: is we will be backing you, but try getting it yourselves.
Speaker 1: Point of sales much much better, much more direct if
Speaker 1: you can get it yourself. This was treated as yet
Speaker 1: another another moment to criticize the president when all he's
Speaker 1: saying is do everything you can. I mean, the federal
Speaker 1: government's going to help you as much as it can.
Speaker 1: But guess what, the federal government's not perfect, doesn't have
Speaker 1: all the resources it needs right now because it just
Speaker 1: draws upon the resources of the people. We weren't ready
Speaker 1: for this. We're not really prepared for this. So if
Speaker 1: the states have a better way of getting some of this,
Speaker 1: they should just do it. You know, if you see
Speaker 1: something on Amazon, are you going to wait for the
Speaker 1: state authorities to deliver to your door. You're just gonna
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna buy that. That's all he's saying, and
Speaker 1: it was reported on as the presidents being, you know, unfeeling,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't care and in all this other stuff
Speaker 1: just just pure and utter garbage on the President notably
Speaker 1: annoyed by this play clip twelve and yesterday, I gave
Speaker 1: the governors the right to go order directly if they want,
Speaker 1: if they feel they can do it faster than going
Speaker 1: through the federal government. Now we've knocked out all of
Speaker 1: the bureaucracy, it's very direct, but it's still always fast
Speaker 1: to order directly. And I gave them that was totally
Speaker 1: misinterpreted by the New York Times on purpose, unfortunately, but yeah,
Speaker 1: they did completely misinterpret it, and they used it as
Speaker 1: a cheap shot opportunity against the president. And it's really
Speaker 1: it's really appalling. But that's where we are, and that's
Speaker 1: that's still going to continue to happen. People view all
Speaker 1: of this as an opportunity, an opportunity to score political
Speaker 1: points against administration that they hate. That really gave us.
Speaker 1: I mean, the first three years of Trump were the
Speaker 1: three best years in this country in my adult life.
Speaker 1: I honestly believe that I knew it wasn't gonna last.
Speaker 1: I knew we were going to have a war or something.
Speaker 1: I know it was going to be this, We're going
Speaker 1: to have a massive recession. We're going to have some
Speaker 1: problem that came up, you know, have a socialist takeover
Speaker 1: of the country. That was a concern. It looks like
Speaker 1: that's not going to happen. Biden crushed Bernie last night
Speaker 1: the primaries. Here we are our Biden is going to
Speaker 1: be too old for the job, not very bright, not
Speaker 1: very impressive. Biden is supposed to be the savior of
Speaker 1: the country. Well, we'll get to that later. Let's focus
Speaker 1: on Let's focus on what's going on right here, right now.
Speaker 1: So you've got just by the numbers, so I can
Speaker 1: really make it clear to you why there's such a
Speaker 1: concern right now over hospital beds. You've got over one
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty thousand people across the world who are
Speaker 1: confirmed to have COVID nineteen, and you have at least
Speaker 1: wuhan virus. By the way, please don't tell me to
Speaker 1: call one thing. I'm just there's a lot of things
Speaker 1: people are calling it. I'm not not calling it wuhan
Speaker 1: virus because it's just COVID nineteen is easier to say.
Speaker 1: But you've got at least seven thousand deaths around the world.
Speaker 1: That's gonna be a lot. It's gonna be a lot
Speaker 1: more than that. And now, yeah, bad flu season, we'll
Speaker 1: kill sixty at eighty thousand people in the United States alone,
Speaker 1: So that's real. But this is different and worse than
Speaker 1: the flu. We're there. I was really hoping that was
Speaker 1: not going to be the case. I was really hoping
Speaker 1: we could sit here and just say it just the
Speaker 1: flu part two. But it's not. No one now who
Speaker 1: studies this, no one now who looks at this is
Speaker 1: claiming otherwise. So you know, this is where we get
Speaker 1: to the shelter and place declaration. That looks like it's
Speaker 1: already happened in San Francisco. It looks like it may
Speaker 1: happen here in New York City. New York State has
Speaker 1: seventeen hundred cases. And I know you guys live in
Speaker 1: different states, but this is now going to be the
Speaker 1: test case for because we're gonna have the most the
Speaker 1: most people confirmed to have the disease, and you're going
Speaker 1: to see the greatest influx of resources probably in the
Speaker 1: hospital system here because it's going to need it. Seventeen
Speaker 1: hundred cases probably by the end of the day, it'll
Speaker 1: be closer to two thousand, almost a thousand cases in
Speaker 1: New York City alone, and a rough estimate is that
Speaker 1: whatever we think the number is, it's ten times that number.
Speaker 1: So if we think there are a thousand cases of
Speaker 1: New York City, they're ten thousand cases in New York City.
Speaker 1: If they're ten thousand cases in New York City, meaning
Speaker 1: people that actually have the disease, a lot of them
Speaker 1: don't know it. Most of them don't know it. They're
Speaker 1: walking around, they're infecting people. Now, there's eight million people
Speaker 1: eight point five or so a million people in New
Speaker 1: York which means that obviously a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: have it. But ten thousand, if you spread it to
Speaker 1: two people at a time, and they spread it to
Speaker 1: two people and they spent it at two people, exponential
Speaker 1: growth means that you're going to have roughly half the
Speaker 1: city in a pretty short order of time that has this.
Speaker 1: That's what would happen if you just allow people to
Speaker 1: go about their lives and do everything. So we are
Speaker 1: hoping to bring down that number so that there are
Speaker 1: enough beds because when we get to ten or fifteen
Speaker 1: thousand people who are hospitalized with this, which will happen
Speaker 1: relatively quickly. Based on the numbers. We're already seeing their
Speaker 1: need to be their resources in place to treat them.
Speaker 1: So we are right now waiting for the onslaught. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is a little bit like we're in the front
Speaker 1: line of an infantry battle. You know. We're in the
Speaker 1: front line of the phae Lex and we can see
Speaker 1: the enemy coming over the crest of the hill across
Speaker 1: from us, and it is big, and it is a
Speaker 1: scary looking enemy, and we have to just sort of
Speaker 1: wait for it. You know. I've been talking to friends
Speaker 1: about how the city after nine to eleven we were scared,
Speaker 1: but we also knew right away. Many of us, I
Speaker 1: think had a change in mentality to Okay, now this mean,
Speaker 1: this means war. And when you're fighting against a human enemy,
Speaker 1: no matter how terrifying their tactics and how evil they
Speaker 1: may be, as al Qaeda was and is, you know
Speaker 1: that they're vulnerable. I mean, to borrow from Arnold Schwarzenegger
Speaker 1: and the Predator movie, if it bleeds, we can kill it, right.
Speaker 1: It's one of his better better lines than what is
Speaker 1: I think arguably the arguably the five one of the
Speaker 1: five greatest action movies of all time, if not number one.
Speaker 1: If it bleeds, we can kill a human beings bleed,
Speaker 1: so we know that we can take out any human
Speaker 1: enemy if we just have the skill, the grit, the determination.
Speaker 1: Viruses don't bleed now they can die, but we can't
Speaker 1: go really and steek them out to eradicate them. We
Speaker 1: are playing defense. We are on defense inherently when we're
Speaker 1: dealing with a viral pandemic like this, and that feels bad,
Speaker 1: that feels even more uneasy in a lot of ways.
Speaker 1: There's not going to be any revenge here. There's not
Speaker 1: going to be any justice. No one's ever gonna, you know,
Speaker 1: kick in Vin Laden's front door and shoot him in
Speaker 1: the face because he gave us a virus, right, I
Speaker 1: mean this is there's never gonna Yeah. I'm going to
Speaker 1: talk about the situation with China, which is complicated and
Speaker 1: really bad, but there's no one person you're gonna be
Speaker 1: able to point to and say is responsible for this,
Speaker 1: And even trying to hold one nation state responsible will
Speaker 1: be a very difficult thing. And what would that even
Speaker 1: mean because it's really the regime, it's the Chinese Communist
Speaker 1: Party that you would blame for this. It's not the
Speaker 1: people of China, and we have the same issue with Iran.
Speaker 1: It's the Iranian regime that is our enemy. Or Ron's
Speaker 1: dealing with a terrible outbreak there. It's not the Iranian
Speaker 1: people that are our enemy. So we are at this
Speaker 1: point in time when we just have to do everything
Speaker 1: that we can make, all the preparations possible. You know,
Speaker 1: for those of you that are fans of the Lord
Speaker 1: of the Rings trilogy, this is the viral pandemic equivalent
Speaker 1: of Helm's Deep and we are just trying to put
Speaker 1: a sword in everybody's hand who can swing one, and
Speaker 1: hunker down and get ready for it, because that's what
Speaker 1: it's about to hit us. It's about to hit us
Speaker 1: really hard. Those even that are still skeptics, I think
Speaker 1: there are very few of them now, but there are
Speaker 1: some who listen to this who I know are still
Speaker 1: skeptical of how serious this is going to be. We
Speaker 1: can sacrifice two weeks of economic activity and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: We can sacrifice two weeks in order to find out
Speaker 1: if the projections of the experts are right. We can't
Speaker 1: take a gamble and assume the experts are wrong and
Speaker 1: let this thing go on without these measures for another
Speaker 1: two to three weeks. That's the truth. That's where we are.
Speaker 1: One of them we can cover from the other one
Speaker 1: is catastrophic. And thinking about what a great day it
Speaker 1: would be if I have to sit here, and I
Speaker 1: mean I'll be laughing and slapping high fives a producer
Speaker 1: Mark and Man, they were crazy, they were so they
Speaker 1: were way off, you know, Samson Nite. They were way off.
Speaker 1: But I think that's a one percent chance at this point.
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I haven't seen a single
Speaker 1: expert make a case that we're not about to see
Speaker 1: a big surge. Now, there are some variables. I want
Speaker 1: to give you some positive notes here, because I know
Speaker 1: on the Drudge Report there's this get ready for eighteen
Speaker 1: months of social distancing story. I saw that too. I
Speaker 1: read the whole thing. I'm reading all I'm reading the
Speaker 1: catastrophists and I'm reading the slightly less catastrophists, because that's
Speaker 1: really all there is these days, versions of events. But
Speaker 1: I want to give you some of the up some
Speaker 1: of the possible positives here and some of the upside,
Speaker 1: and then we'll talk a bit about also the generational issue.
Speaker 1: In fact, maybe i'll do the generational issue first, because
Speaker 1: that's going to play a very large role in how
Speaker 1: the fight against Wuhan virus. And then we'll get into
Speaker 1: the situation with China, how we even got here. And
Speaker 1: I think this is going to play into the long
Speaker 1: term relationship between US and China in very troubling ways.
Speaker 1: If this is as bad as some people are anticipating,
Speaker 1: there's going to be a backlash against China and the
Speaker 1: Chinese government from the whole world, but from America in particular,
Speaker 1: because they are responsible for this situation in many ways.
Speaker 1: You're in the freedom Huh. This is the Buck Sexton
Speaker 1: Show podcast. Now we're going to find out if everything
Speaker 1: has a risk, We're going to see but if people
Speaker 1: do what we're telling them to do, what we're asking
Speaker 1: them to do, you're going to see the saving of
Speaker 1: a lot of lives. Now, boris in UK yesterday you
Speaker 1: so what happened. It looked like they were going to
Speaker 1: get a different way, but that he went a way
Speaker 1: of similar. I guess similar. I don't know exactly, but
Speaker 1: I would say we had a conversation yesterday similar to
Speaker 1: what we're doing. So a lot of people seem to
Speaker 1: think this is going to be a we are looking
Speaker 1: to save the maximum number of lives. Everything else is
Speaker 1: going to come back. A life is another going to
Speaker 1: come back, but everything else, our economy is going to
Speaker 1: come roaring back. You're gonna know, We're gonna know, We're
Speaker 1: gonna all know that day. Somebody was asking about the day,
Speaker 1: when will you know? When will you know? We're gonna
Speaker 1: know all of a sudden, we're gonna say, Wow, that's
Speaker 1: looking good. That's looking good, that's looking good, and we're
Speaker 1: going to be on the other side of the curve.
Speaker 1: And that's the day that we look forward to. He's right,
Speaker 1: the day will come. But right now, it's all about
Speaker 1: life preservation. And life preservation means focusing on protecting, but
Speaker 1: also increasingly it will be focusing on treating the more
Speaker 1: vulnerable members of our population, particularly the over seventy age group.
Speaker 1: Over sixty is in higher risk. Over seventies and very
Speaker 1: high risk. I think the Italian data shows that if
Speaker 1: somebody is over ninety then have a about almost a
Speaker 1: twenty percent chance of dying if they get this, which
Speaker 1: is which is very that's very high. Right. It means
Speaker 1: if you have five people in their night, you can
Speaker 1: do the math. Obviously that's scary. So there are a
Speaker 1: lot of people who are deeply concerned about this, and
Speaker 1: at this moment in time, particularly if you have anybody
Speaker 1: in your life that's vulnerable, you understand what the what
Speaker 1: the risks are, and what's going to add. And you've
Speaker 1: you've heard this from the president himself. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: he's concerned about this, he's worried. So those who think
Speaker 1: that this is some media plot to destroy Trumper, and
Speaker 1: I think that's by the way overblown by the people
Speaker 1: people that do want to destroy Trump. But they're saying
Speaker 1: there's this consensus of people on the right who think
Speaker 1: that this was all a hoax, that's all been a lie.
Speaker 1: No one's thought that. We're just trying to make good
Speaker 1: decisions as we go through it. But here here's what
Speaker 1: the president himself. If you think, because I did get
Speaker 1: a lot of I got a lot of messages last week, Buck,
Speaker 1: I think you're drinking the kool aid. Buck, I think
Speaker 1: you're too worried about this. Well, here's what the President
Speaker 1: of the United States, who doesn't back down to anybody
Speaker 1: and is not scared of anything. Here's what he's saying
Speaker 1: about this play fifteen. Last night, the FDA announced groundbreaking
Speaker 1: new policies to further increase testing were very substantially so
Speaker 1: all states can now authorize tests developed and used within
Speaker 1: their borders in addition to the FDA. So the states
Speaker 1: are very much involved. They have been involved from the beginning,
Speaker 1: but we're stepping it up as much as we can,
Speaker 1: and the testing procedures are going well and within a
Speaker 1: short period of time, all of the private labs who
Speaker 1: will kick in. This's never been done before. Okay, sorry,
Speaker 1: I actually call for the wrong clip. That's not a producer, Mark.
Speaker 1: I meant Mark fourteen on what he's asking everybody to do,
Speaker 1: but that was important on the testing too. Our guidance
Speaker 1: yesterday urges Americans to take action for fifteen days to
Speaker 1: help stem the outbreak. So it's a fifteen day period,
Speaker 1: I guess, so now would say it's the fourteen day
Speaker 1: f fifteen days from yesterday, and we're asking everyone to
Speaker 1: work at home if possible, postpone unnecessary travel, and limit
Speaker 1: social gatherings, to know more than ten people. By making
Speaker 1: shared sacrifices and temporary changes, we can protect the health
Speaker 1: of our people and we can protect our economy, because
Speaker 1: I think our economy will come back very rapidly. So
Speaker 1: it's fifteen days from yesterday. We'll see what happens after that.
Speaker 1: If we do this right, our country and the world frankly,
Speaker 1: but our country can be rolling again pretty quickly, pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: We need some optimism from the commander in chief, which
Speaker 1: is good, but you're hearing it from the man himself.
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Speaker 1: The millennials are incredibly good about getting information out in
Speaker 1: a clear way, but more importantly, they are incredibly good
Speaker 1: about understanding how to protect one another, how to protect
Speaker 1: their parents, and how to protect their grandparents. Right now,
Speaker 1: we need the army of millennials out there doing everything
Speaker 1: that they can to protect themselves from getting infected because
Speaker 1: we know a lot of their cases will be mild
Speaker 1: or asymptomatic, and making sure that they're doing every single
Speaker 1: precaution to protect their parents and grandparents. So that was
Speaker 1: the Coronavirus Response Coordinator doctor Deborah Berks, who's saying, look,
Speaker 1: we need to make sure that the young people don't
Speaker 1: think that, because this is less likely to have serious
Speaker 1: impact on them, that they should just ignore the quarantine orders,
Speaker 1: ignore all of the massive steps that we're going through
Speaker 1: right now. I mean, there's all this photo and video evidence.
Speaker 1: Not that they're making a criminal case here, but there's
Speaker 1: all this stuff out there from Clearwater, Florida, other spring
Speaker 1: break hotspots in Florida in particular, where people are just
Speaker 1: deciding that they're gonna go and party and they don't
Speaker 1: really care, and that's the way it's going to be.
Speaker 1: So there's this big focus right now on younger people,
Speaker 1: people in their twenties, people in their thirty You know,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of right in the in between zone, almost forty,
Speaker 1: so not really on the young side, I'm not really
Speaker 1: on the high risk side. I'm sort of somewhere else
Speaker 1: in the middle. So I feel like I'm a fair
Speaker 1: a fair arbiter in this process of what's what's right
Speaker 1: and what's not. Here's the Surgeon General also directing his
Speaker 1: attention to millennials and the need to have them play
Speaker 1: ball with all these different restrictions and orders. Play twenty
Speaker 1: one A question I often get asked is why should
Speaker 1: young people care about the spread of coronavirus. Well, we
Speaker 1: know that people with underlying medical conditions over the age
Speaker 1: of sixty are at highest risk. But they've got to
Speaker 1: get it from somebody. And it's why during our fifteen
Speaker 1: days to slow the spread initiative, we're encouraging young people
Speaker 1: to avoid large gatherings of ten people or more because
Speaker 1: we know that if you get coronavirus, you're at for
Speaker 1: spreading it to someone else. All right, let's see if
Speaker 1: they will abide by that, certainly for fifteen for fifteen days,
Speaker 1: it seems like a completely fair and realistic request. What
Speaker 1: happens if the reports you're seeing that this social distancing
Speaker 1: is supposed to continue to take place well into the fall,
Speaker 1: well into next year. What of twelve months from now?
Speaker 1: The government is still I don't think this will happen.
Speaker 1: But let's just talk about it for a second, because
Speaker 1: there are experts who are saying, bare, here's the funamount
Speaker 1: of problem, folks. Let's say let's say we have perfect lockdown,
Speaker 1: which we don't, but we have perfect lockdown and we
Speaker 1: see the number of cases, the number of fatalities start
Speaker 1: to go down. Let's say it goes down into the hundreds,
Speaker 1: which would be a miracle. But let's say it does that.
Speaker 1: In this country, active cases testing is everywhere. All right,
Speaker 1: Now we go back to normal life, Boom, all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you could have another massive outbreak of this
Speaker 1: disease here in this country. And so that's why we're
Speaker 1: going to be dealing with moderated I think, you know,
Speaker 1: modifications to these measures that are put in place right now,
Speaker 1: we're not going to be able to deal with. You know,
Speaker 1: we're not going to have like victory day here anytime soon.
Speaker 1: Millennials are going to get tired of this. They're gonna say, so,
Speaker 1: I don't get to have a wedding, I don't get
Speaker 1: to go outside, I don't get to live my life,
Speaker 1: I don't get to work. Because the older generation feels
Speaker 1: like they're at higher risk. I'm just saying this is
Speaker 1: this is a risk that people are This tension is
Speaker 1: already being written about Wall Street Journal an editorial about
Speaker 1: it today. We're going to get to that point and
Speaker 1: eventually that's why there there's limited time here. There's limited
Speaker 1: time for the economy, and there's also limited time for compliance.
Speaker 1: People who are saying we're going to do this for
Speaker 1: a year. No, we're not. You know why, people that
Speaker 1: are at relatively low risk, you've got three maybe six
Speaker 1: months to really get this thing under control before they're
Speaker 1: just gonna start saying, you know, tough, what are you
Speaker 1: gonna send the cops? You're gonna rest everybody under thirty.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be get It's gonna get bad. So
Speaker 1: keep that in mind. That's why there's this desire, I think,
Speaker 1: to go specifically to millennials and try to get them
Speaker 1: to take a different approach here than some of them
Speaker 1: are where they're just saying and there's this videos of
Speaker 1: like the girl who's licking the toilet seed, and there's
Speaker 1: a lot of really stupid stuff going on around there.
Speaker 1: There's all these guys who are on spring break who
Speaker 1: you know, look, I get it, they're nineteen or twenty,
Speaker 1: but they're like, I mean, I'm not like in the
Speaker 1: high risk category, and like all my friends are here,
Speaker 1: and so I just want to like party this, you know,
Speaker 1: spring break, and I don't really care. And I mean
Speaker 1: I understand, I mean I wish that everybody would just
Speaker 1: go along with the plan here for a week or two.
Speaker 1: But and I know those of you that live off
Speaker 1: the grid or have been preparing for years and years,
Speaker 1: and you've got plenty of food, your own supply, fresh water,
Speaker 1: not don't have a lot of neighbors around you, aren't
Speaker 1: relying on state services. Congratulations. The reality that you were
Speaker 1: warning all the rest of us about, especially as I
Speaker 1: sit here and I am surrounded by skyscrapers in Manhattan.
Speaker 1: The reality is the reality that you've been warning about
Speaker 1: is actually coming upon us right now. So I know
Speaker 1: people mocked, people made so many jokes. And I was
Speaker 1: part of preparedness campaigns when I was at the Blaze,
Speaker 1: some of our very excellent sponsors telling people just get ready,
Speaker 1: get ready for a situation just like this, and now
Speaker 1: we're in it. So I can't help but think about
Speaker 1: that for a moment, that there was so much Oh,
Speaker 1: the live media love to ooh people that they love
Speaker 1: to poke fun at anybody that believes in personal preparedness.
Speaker 1: And they're not laughing now, that's for sure. I did
Speaker 1: have you a play that testing the clip about Donald
Speaker 1: Trump saying that there's testing that's going to bringing in
Speaker 1: private labs. That's a big that's a game changer. I mean,
Speaker 1: they should have gone with that as quickly as possible.
Speaker 1: The CDC mistakes right now, we all know the CDC
Speaker 1: messed up with the testing, and initially it got so
Speaker 1: much attention because they thought they could blame Trump for it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if Trump's telling the head of the CDC,
Speaker 1: all right, let's get that test out, guys, and the
Speaker 1: CDC makes a faulty test, is Donald Trump's supposed to
Speaker 1: design a test? You know what's really fair to ask?
Speaker 1: What's really the reality of that situation. So I look
Speaker 1: at this now and I said, oh, there's also the
Speaker 1: Defense Production Act that has been invoked, which is a
Speaker 1: made this just got this just broke today. This means
Speaker 1: that the federal government will be able to say, all right,
Speaker 1: we want masks, we want whatever it is that need
Speaker 1: to be, you know, ventilators. They're gonna able to fulfill
Speaker 1: those contracts. And it's going to be something that the
Speaker 1: government now can essentially just write checks to get stuff
Speaker 1: done and probably set up their own facilities. This is
Speaker 1: like you know, Ford Motor Company switching from making model
Speaker 1: teams or whatever. I don't know what they were making,
Speaker 1: but you know that's a Ford car from back in
Speaker 1: the day. Switch from making sedans to making bomber planes.
Speaker 1: That's what this will allow for. This is the federal
Speaker 1: government now getting in a position to ramp up and
Speaker 1: do its own production effectively be the is state. This
Speaker 1: is state capitalism now on this issue, on this one sector.
Speaker 1: This is state controlled capitalism at work, which is a
Speaker 1: good thing. Leveraging the private sector, having the federal government
Speaker 1: writing the checks for it. This needs to happen right now.
Speaker 1: This is a temporary measure. All the people, and I
Speaker 1: know there's a lot out there right now who are
Speaker 1: saying the universal basic income has won, because now even
Speaker 1: Republicans are saying no, this is an emerging see measure.
Speaker 1: It's like the things that we did, the things that
Speaker 1: we said after nine to eleven, and the things that
Speaker 1: we did as a country were not I mean, in
Speaker 1: some cases they ended up extending longer, but they were
Speaker 1: not supposed to be all permanent measures. In extreme circumstances,
Speaker 1: there are certain things that the government needs to do
Speaker 1: that it would not be appropriate or wise for it
Speaker 1: to do under normal circumstances. We are in as much
Speaker 1: of an extreme as you will find when it comes
Speaker 1: to a pandemic. We have faced nothing really like this
Speaker 1: since nineteen eighteen, and that's where we are, so we
Speaker 1: might as well understand that and accept it and make
Speaker 1: the best of the situation we can right now. And
Speaker 1: that's what I'm hoping that these next couple of weeks
Speaker 1: we show a real, really impressive national resolve our first
Speaker 1: line responders, our medical community, also the people that are
Speaker 1: delivering food in our food chain. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: want to see true hysteria that will come if we
Speaker 1: have disruptions to our food supply, if the Internet goes down,
Speaker 1: electricity goes off, people. You know, I don't think we're
Speaker 1: heading for any of that, by the way, I really don't.
Speaker 1: But the people that are making sure we don't head there,
Speaker 1: they deserve our eternal thanks and gratitude. And you know,
Speaker 1: it's a real reminder that you know that person who's
Speaker 1: who's bagging groceries for you these days, But but any day,
Speaker 1: they're doing something that's necessary, they're doing something that helps society,
Speaker 1: and right now they're doing it at personal risk. This
Speaker 1: is why I was saying yesterday and I did last night.
Speaker 1: I ordered in some food. I'm trying to get in
Speaker 1: some orders from restaurants that I think might close soon,
Speaker 1: but haven't closed yet. And I'm just I'm tipping everybody
Speaker 1: double what I'm I'm a pretty good tipper. I believe
Speaker 1: in tipping. Woe. I'm a double everyone who delivers. Whatever
Speaker 1: my usual delivery thing was in the past, double every time.
Speaker 1: Now it's a little thing. And maybe it's a gesture.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just see. I wouldn't say it's not virtue signaling,
Speaker 1: because it's actually virtuous. It's the right thing to do,
Speaker 1: and I want other people to do it too, if
Speaker 1: you can, if you can afford it, if you live
Speaker 1: in a place where there's a lot of food delivery,
Speaker 1: or if you're trying to do everything you can to
Speaker 1: make sure that this continues on as is so well,
Speaker 1: continues on, and they'll at least be some ability for
Speaker 1: the restaurant community to bounce back the economic catastrophe that's
Speaker 1: unfolding right now. If we didn't have a disease that
Speaker 1: was threatened to kill large numbers of our fellow Americans,
Speaker 1: the economic calamity would keep us up late at night.
Speaker 1: So look, this government has its hands full. We have
Speaker 1: not faced anything like this in my lifetime. But I
Speaker 1: want to talk to you about the China situation, of
Speaker 1: the Chinese role in all of this too. We'll get
Speaker 1: to that. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show podcast putting out information which was false
Speaker 1: that our military gave us, and then that was false.
Speaker 1: And rather than having an argument, I said our phrase, No,
Speaker 1: I don't think so. No. I think saying that our
Speaker 1: military gave it to them, I think that that's pretty straightforward.
Speaker 1: And I praised Donald Trump for standing his ground there
Speaker 1: as the leader of this government in this country when
Speaker 1: the press seems to just want to play along with
Speaker 1: Chinese government propaganda our press. David Harsani joins us now.
Speaker 1: He's been writing about this. He's senior writer at National Review. David,
Speaker 1: thanks again, always, thank you. Um, what the heck is
Speaker 1: going on here? Why are we hearing all of this
Speaker 1: Chinese propaganda, all these Chinese government talking points from our press.
Speaker 1: They can't be I actually know. I can never say
Speaker 1: that there are a lot of really dumb journalists, but
Speaker 1: I'd like to think that they're not this dumb. But
Speaker 1: it seems to me that if they're not so stupid
Speaker 1: as to believe what China is putting out, then they're
Speaker 1: almost rooting for Trump to get more blame than China.
Speaker 1: What is going on here, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think part of it is obviously this ingrained necessity
Speaker 1: to blame Donald Trump for everything that happens. It's destructive
Speaker 1: and it's I think rendered the press in many ways,
Speaker 1: you know, or many people in the press useless, useless
Speaker 1: to us in any real way other than entertainment. And
Speaker 1: that's that's a disaster in many ways, because these are
Speaker 1: the times right now that we actually need good journalism
Speaker 1: and we don't have it. So I think that that's
Speaker 1: one of the driving parts of it. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: about the other parts. I mean, I see people. I
Speaker 1: mean I see people, and I don't want to go
Speaker 1: through names that I see journalists and columnists, some of
Speaker 1: them who have written literally written books about the evils
Speaker 1: of communism, just repeating Chinese propaganda right now about how
Speaker 1: I don't know. Somebody who wrote a book about the
Speaker 1: famine in Ukraine, who last name rhymes with apple soum. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, fantastic, fantastic historians. She wrote a book on
Speaker 1: the Gulag, you know, she wrote a book on the
Speaker 1: Iron Curtain, and it's just um I just don't get
Speaker 1: it and h but anyway, I don't have to get it.
Speaker 1: All we have to get to is the truth, and
Speaker 1: the truth is Yeah, well let's get into that. What
Speaker 1: in China do here? Well, first of all, you know
Speaker 1: a lot of these what's name I forget, zoonic diseases, stars,
Speaker 1: this one, many many others actually you know come from
Speaker 1: China because you know, it jumps from animals like bats
Speaker 1: and snakes, and they're not always exactly sure, but it's
Speaker 1: because there are these wet markets in China where you
Speaker 1: have you know, animals that are you know, you know,
Speaker 1: unsanitary places. You know, Yeah, you basically pick out your
Speaker 1: civid in a cage and it's like cramped, horrible conditions,
Speaker 1: and other animals are you know, excreening on it from
Speaker 1: cages above it, and they're like, you know, lop off
Speaker 1: its head or whatever, and they hand you some civid kebabs.
Speaker 1: I mean that's I've seen video. This is what they
Speaker 1: actually do. Yeah, it's it's not good. And you know,
Speaker 1: I mentioned today in a column that I think you
Speaker 1: know once you're I'm a big fan of free trade.
Speaker 1: I think that China has lifted millions of people out
Speaker 1: of poverty because they've allowed some free trading capitalism. And
Speaker 1: that's all wonderful, but if you're going to join modernity,
Speaker 1: you have to do things like you have to stop
Speaker 1: eating bats and possibly killing all of us with some
Speaker 1: disease that jumps from you know, a bat, to to
Speaker 1: to Saint Louis and to New York, etc. M you know.
Speaker 1: And if the communist government they are spent as much
Speaker 1: time educating its populous and trying to deal with these
Speaker 1: kinds of issues as it does suppressing their speech, as
Speaker 1: it does with baganda, as it does with secrecy, we
Speaker 1: wouldn't have this trouble. And no one would be calling
Speaker 1: a China virus because they would Chinese virus or what
Speaker 1: it flew or whatever, because they wouldn't have to. I
Speaker 1: don't like Chinese the term Chinese virus. I think it
Speaker 1: should be called China the Chinese communist virus, or Chai
Speaker 1: con virus, something like that. It's not the Chinese people.
Speaker 1: Chinese people in large part are victims just bad authoritarian governance.
Speaker 1: And so just as a reminder of everybody, the World
Speaker 1: Health Organization, on January fourteenth of this year, put out
Speaker 1: the following tweet from their official account. Preliminary investigations conducted
Speaker 1: by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of
Speaker 1: human to human transmission of the novel coronavirus identified in Wuhan, China.
Speaker 1: That had to be a lie. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: it was wrong, but they had to have known them.
Speaker 1: There's no way. Well, yeah, I mean we now know,
Speaker 1: and we don't know everything because the Chinese government has
Speaker 1: i think expelled a bunch of journalists and obviously always
Speaker 1: as always being secretive, but the Chinese government stop doctors
Speaker 1: from communicating about this. Initially made some or one doctor
Speaker 1: or more doctors apologize for for for panicking. Now listen,
Speaker 1: I don't think panic is a good thing. Obviously, you
Speaker 1: don't want that. I think you know. Initially, I'm sure
Speaker 1: that it's it's a it's a confusing situation and you're
Speaker 1: not sure what's going on. But once they already knew,
Speaker 1: they were still allowing people from the Uan province to
Speaker 1: move freely in and out. I think they think the
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal said five million people were moving about.
Speaker 1: The Chinese did nothing about that. They were making still
Speaker 1: making doctors apologize for for sharing information with other doctors
Speaker 1: and you know, creating worry about this, et cetera. You know,
Speaker 1: it goes on and on, so U And now you know,
Speaker 1: we're heaving numbers like China has done a good job
Speaker 1: in stopping it, and we're using their numbers and news
Speaker 1: stories as if they're facts. There. We don't know. Chinese
Speaker 1: lie about everything. We don't know what's going on in China. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have any faith that they've really
Speaker 1: been able to control this as much as they're saying
Speaker 1: right now, it sounds like they're telling everybody, Oh, we're
Speaker 1: we're pretty much going to be good here. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't know who to trust. I mean, it seems
Speaker 1: to me that they have some control over it. The
Speaker 1: methods they use sometimes to get to get that control,
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, are you've seen some of the
Speaker 1: video of them dragging people away, soldering doors close, things
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know what's going on there, And
Speaker 1: maybe they have or maybe they haven't, but certainly we
Speaker 1: should not trust what they have to tell us. And
Speaker 1: you know, like I saw a Bloomberg story just now,
Speaker 1: you know where Bloomberg says China Europe has now has
Speaker 1: more cases than China Are you kidding me? You have
Speaker 1: no idea I'm any cases they are in China. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't trust what China is saying. You can't make
Speaker 1: definitive statements like that we were in particular, seems to
Speaker 1: be a little too not just the guy, but the
Speaker 1: it to me, the news organization always a little bit
Speaker 1: too China friendly in you. Let's be honest. I mean again,
Speaker 1: I am a huge free trade guy. You want to
Speaker 1: bring Chinese money here, I'm all for it, But you
Speaker 1: have news organizations I'll say the Atlantic. Wait, David, can
Speaker 1: you hope for one second? I want to come back
Speaker 1: and the guys stay with you one second. We'll continue
Speaker 1: this conversation with David Harsania on China. Thanks for listening
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Speaker 1: All right, So we're talking to David Harsani about China's
Speaker 1: role on all this, and we're talking about the media,
Speaker 1: the coverage of this, the strange affinity that our own
Speaker 1: national news media seems to have for Chinese Communist Party
Speaker 1: talking points through state media. What were you saying, David,
Speaker 1: right before we took a pause there on the role
Speaker 1: that China plays in our media, and you were about
Speaker 1: to talk about the Atlanticum, let's show the Atlantic for now.
Speaker 1: I think the Atlantic has been terrible on this, but
Speaker 1: let's show that for now, because I don't really know
Speaker 1: exactly how they get their money, but there are a
Speaker 1: lot of organizations in this country that have a Chinese
Speaker 1: money and Chinese investors behind them as well as others,
Speaker 1: and they're probably worried about insulting certain people, and we
Speaker 1: can't really have good transparency. Are a good debate about
Speaker 1: this as long as that happens, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know that that's the fact in every case, but I
Speaker 1: think that that might have something to do with the
Speaker 1: way certain people are talking about China. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know for a fact that you know, behind closed doors,
Speaker 1: I've been told stories about back when the Saudis were
Speaker 1: considerably more powerful, when oil was you know, one hundred
Speaker 1: dollars plus a barrel. The Saudis would tell you they
Speaker 1: were investors in different news organizations. And if the Saudi
Speaker 1: royal family said lay off the whole Wahabism is our
Speaker 1: main export, not oil, Guess what people did it. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: it's not surprising a Chinese would have the same kind
Speaker 1: of sway and some of these news organizations, right, And
Speaker 1: you know, it's weird because and I want to stress
Speaker 1: because I'm sure there are some racists out there who
Speaker 1: now you know, are you know, say stupid things about
Speaker 1: Chinese Americans, et cetera. But there's always stupid racist saying
Speaker 1: stupid things about everything. So I mean, right, we can't
Speaker 1: we can't hear all our talk about China simply because
Speaker 1: there are a few idiots out there. They're gonna be
Speaker 1: idiots no matter what you do. But the Chinese people
Speaker 1: themselves are incredibly successful. Right. You think about Taiwan, or
Speaker 1: you think about Singapore, or you think about Malaysia, even
Speaker 1: where there are many Chinese people were here in America.
Speaker 1: It's not the Chinese people that's that's the problem. It's
Speaker 1: it's think about Hong Kong, where and what the Chinese
Speaker 1: people are capable of. If they were be allowed to
Speaker 1: do those things, they wouldn't We wouldn't have to worry
Speaker 1: about them in that way. It's the communist government in
Speaker 1: China that's now the problem. And I think it's important
Speaker 1: to make sure that we talk about it, and some
Speaker 1: people in this country don't want to talk about communism
Speaker 1: in that way. Now, of course, the Chinese government there
Speaker 1: is not exactly purist, you know about their beliefs, but
Speaker 1: it's still an authoritarian place that acts in ways that
Speaker 1: to me are inexplicable. Sometimes I don't even understand why
Speaker 1: they do the things they do when they could become
Speaker 1: just an immense powerhouse in this world in a good way.
Speaker 1: So it's, you know, it's something we were going to
Speaker 1: have to talk about even after this is over. I
Speaker 1: also think that we're going to see some of the
Speaker 1: cultural differences at play and dealing with this and in
Speaker 1: a sense, and this is I'm sure that there are
Speaker 1: some socio you know, socioeconomic or sociological studies to this,
Speaker 1: but I do get the sense that the Chinese people
Speaker 1: overall are less likely to revolt against government dictates an
Speaker 1: action than Americans are. I don't think we've got that
Speaker 1: long here, David. Before people just start saying, I don't
Speaker 1: care what risks put some people in I've got to
Speaker 1: live my life. Do you think that we're going to
Speaker 1: hit that in a few months. Do you think that
Speaker 1: we've got a year. Sure you're saying, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that Americans are not going to be inclined to stay
Speaker 1: in their homes, yes, you know for six months, right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean at some point does people make that determ
Speaker 1: and the no matter what the government says. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, we're only going to be able to right now.
Speaker 1: The cops are kind of showing up that they see
Speaker 1: people doing the big gatherings. I think there was a
Speaker 1: wedding in Brooklyn. They showed up. They're like, a right, everybody,
Speaker 1: come on, you know, we get it, like you're not
Speaker 1: bad people, but like, we can't do this right now.
Speaker 1: Eventually America. I mean in China, it seems like there's
Speaker 1: you know, no one's telling the authorities at least that
Speaker 1: we see. I mean that's obviously we don't really see
Speaker 1: a lot that goes on there, but we're not seeing
Speaker 1: anybody saying no, sorry, like Chinese secret police or whatever,
Speaker 1: like you don't get to tell us what to do.
Speaker 1: And that's going to happen here. We don't. Americans are
Speaker 1: going to say, look if we lose four or five percent.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is crazy to think about, but I
Speaker 1: do think it's reality. In six or eight months. If
Speaker 1: the economy is in a depression and we're told to
Speaker 1: stay in our homes, Americans are going to say, if
Speaker 1: we lose four or five percent of us, like, that's
Speaker 1: just the way this is going to be. We have
Speaker 1: to go forward. Yeah, I absolutely think at some point
Speaker 1: people make a cause, you know, cost benefit analysis in
Speaker 1: their heads, you know, whom lives lost, things like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, we do that anyway quite often. You know,
Speaker 1: we think, think about driving, right, you lose I forget
Speaker 1: what it is, forty thousand people a year in accidents.
Speaker 1: We still drive. We don't have five mile per hour
Speaker 1: speed limits. I think people can get used to any
Speaker 1: kind anything, right, and then they go on with their
Speaker 1: lives in some way, especially people who are younger and
Speaker 1: feel like they're safe. You see that now. I mean
Speaker 1: there are the pictures of the beaches on Florida packed.
Speaker 1: You know, I went out here. I live in a Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also noticed that. You know, some people are blaming,
Speaker 1: like Fox and conservatives aren't taking it seriously. But I'm
Speaker 1: in a super liberal place that went out, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: and tons of people are out. They don't seem very
Speaker 1: nervous about it. They're in the supermarket. There's no social
Speaker 1: distancing that I could tell. And so I wonder if
Speaker 1: if some people have already made that determination. A lot
Speaker 1: of people, right, and I think that in time, you
Speaker 1: know that that's only going to be a more difficult fight.
Speaker 1: What is the what are the biggest moves that you
Speaker 1: think the government through right now on the economic side
Speaker 1: that will be helpful. It's difficult for me to say that,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, obviously this is You're supposed to
Speaker 1: have all the answers. That's why I bring we bring
Speaker 1: you on the show, Come on, give something. I know,
Speaker 1: I know I noticed that people seem to think they
Speaker 1: have to have answers for everything. But I'm not one
Speaker 1: of those people. I do not have a good answer
Speaker 1: for that. Obviously. I would say this when you had
Speaker 1: the you know, the recession to thousand and seven and eight,
Speaker 1: it was a very different situation because a lot of
Speaker 1: companies did the wrong thing and a lot of people
Speaker 1: did the wrong thing, and those you know, there's something
Speaker 1: wrong with the economy, and you know it needed certain
Speaker 1: things needed to happen. Certain people need to go out
Speaker 1: of business. This is some existential threat that is no
Speaker 1: one's fault. It's not like the airline companies did something
Speaker 1: to deserve this, or anyone did something to deserve this.
Speaker 1: So it's a different situation, and bailouts are a different situation,
Speaker 1: and sending money to people's a different situation. I wonder
Speaker 1: how much of an effect that's going to have, really though,
Speaker 1: If this it drags out for a few months, I
Speaker 1: don't know that you can save industries that just basically
Speaker 1: have to shut down for three, four months, five six months.
Speaker 1: I just don't know how to come back from that
Speaker 1: very quickly. Yeah, I also wonder, you know, we've been
Speaker 1: talking for a long time about how large the national
Speaker 1: debt is. I mean, if we're going to start just
Speaker 1: adding a trillion here, a trillion there, a trillion here,
Speaker 1: a trillion there, with an economy that's effectively on pause,
Speaker 1: and that's a gentle way of saying it, do people
Speaker 1: we are to get closer to that. I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to add to the hysteria that's out there right now,
Speaker 1: but do people start to get closer to that point
Speaker 1: where they say, you know, maybe the dollar isn't the
Speaker 1: reserve currency anymore, maybe there is a huge run on
Speaker 1: gold or treasury bonds, all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: aren't the safe haven? I mean, can you are you
Speaker 1: worried about that? Or you think that's too far? I'm worried. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm worried about that. I'm worried about that. But you know,
Speaker 1: I feel like we don't really know yet what we
Speaker 1: have in some sense. I think it's bad obviously, no
Speaker 1: matter how you look at it. But I do wonder
Speaker 1: how how it's going to look. I don't ever want
Speaker 1: to diminish this or it's not. It's scary and all that,
Speaker 1: But when you look at like some of the countries
Speaker 1: that have flattened their curves, you know, and dealt with it,
Speaker 1: you know what we can't. We don't know the bad
Speaker 1: that can come, but we also don't know the good
Speaker 1: that can come. How fast do we get to a vaccine?
Speaker 1: Maybe there is a way to admitigate the effects of
Speaker 1: this thing? Is Yeah, can I talk about the most
Speaker 1: positive for it? Because I feel like I'm like depressing
Speaker 1: myself today on the show because all all the headlines
Speaker 1: this are so bad. The stock market's like and below
Speaker 1: twenty thousand on the Dow. I mean, this is this
Speaker 1: is rough stuff. What's what's the Harsani, we're all going
Speaker 1: to be okay. Scenario not scenario, but what's your best
Speaker 1: case to make that we're all going to be okay?
Speaker 1: I just go quickly. I want to say. I read
Speaker 1: some thread yesterday that was just horrifying, right, So I'm
Speaker 1: in bed reading it on my phone and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, we're definitely all going to die. It's
Speaker 1: the worst thing. And then I turn to the next
Speaker 1: thing I read and it was like much more positive.
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's going to be okay. And I'm on
Speaker 1: this roller coaster now for weeks. It's like we're all
Speaker 1: going to die. We're all going to be okay. My
Speaker 1: view is that you know that we as humans, and
Speaker 1: we especially as Americans, learn quickly how to deal with
Speaker 1: these things. We have a kind of massive economic strength
Speaker 1: and the type of people and I don't want to
Speaker 1: sound idealistic, but I actually believe this to be true,
Speaker 1: that we'll quickly figure out ways to mitigate this thing,
Speaker 1: and that, you know, my my rosy scenario is that
Speaker 1: we're going to get over it because we will, because
Speaker 1: we have to, and that because there was no I mean,
Speaker 1: it depends how long ago is. Obviously, but because there's
Speaker 1: no reason for the economy to be in bad shape
Speaker 1: other than this thing. Very quickly, people will rebound and
Speaker 1: come up with what you know that the economy will
Speaker 1: start growing and people will you know, bouncing back, I mean,
Speaker 1: and people will will be much you know, will it
Speaker 1: will sort be a way to spark the economy and hopefully,
Speaker 1: you know, things rebound rather quickly. I think we might
Speaker 1: be in a situation where the very in recent years
Speaker 1: vilified pharmaceutical sector might be People keep talking with the
Speaker 1: vaccine vaccine. You can't rush it because if you rush it,
Speaker 1: you might end up killing everybody you give the vaccine too.
Speaker 1: So there's no there is no rushing it, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're doing it as fast as they can without tak Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're right. And and by the way, for those who
Speaker 1: are saying, oh, well it's just worth the risk, well
Speaker 1: you could actually start creating strains of effectively supervirus too.
Speaker 1: Like there's actual risk that if you give people the
Speaker 1: wrong vaccine, then that disease will not only take hold
Speaker 1: in that person, but also might mutate with in them.
Speaker 1: So I mean, there's real because you can't really I've
Speaker 1: been reading about vaccine stuff NonStop in recent days. But
Speaker 1: therapeutics meaning keeping people's lungs from effectively, you know, drowning
Speaker 1: from the inside out from this disease. I think Gilead
Speaker 1: Pharmaceuticals has something that's already been used for other other
Speaker 1: viruses or testing that if we get a therapeutic that
Speaker 1: just prevents people for having to worry about hospitalization and dying,
Speaker 1: which would effectively make this like the flu um Well,
Speaker 1: I know the flu kills people too, but it would
Speaker 1: make it, you know, a lesser extreme on the virus spectrum.
Speaker 1: Pharmaceutical company might be in a position to kind of
Speaker 1: save the world and maybe civilization. Dad, Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean they do that all the time with other diseases
Speaker 1: as well. I mean, you know, we basically, you know,
Speaker 1: ease is no longer a death sentence, et cetera. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know that people understand. You know, there's a
Speaker 1: vilification of pharmaceutical companies and their profit monitoring. Without the
Speaker 1: profit motive, you're not getting any of this stuff. So
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. You know, I'm not saying that pharmaceutical company
Speaker 1: is always you know, acting your best interest. A lot
Speaker 1: of rent seeking, a lot of stuff like that. But overall,
Speaker 1: of course they're they're amazing, and yeah, you know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of talk and I don't know specifics, so
Speaker 1: I don't get into it. But in South Korea that
Speaker 1: they have found sort of a like a cocktail of
Speaker 1: of of drugs that help mitigate mitigate, uh you know,
Speaker 1: in fact, yeah, and that's so yeah, yeah, so therapeutic stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're you know, I have faith
Speaker 1: that we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna do those things
Speaker 1: because we always do. Right, It's not the first time
Speaker 1: we have to deal with the disease. So but right now,
Speaker 1: I think it's important that people stay away from each
Speaker 1: other so that we don't really overwhelm the system. I
Speaker 1: think that's the main source of you know, uh, you
Speaker 1: know that's the scariest thing because you know, the ventilators,
Speaker 1: et cetera. So we might have to we might have
Speaker 1: to like brand your segment, you know, weekly David Hope
Speaker 1: from HARSANYI, you know, pretty I'm usually pretty optimistic, it's
Speaker 1: in general, but when you don't know, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: this is something outside the norm, right, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen, and we have to
Speaker 1: be really careful. I think at some point you're right,
Speaker 1: you know, you can sink the economy to the extent
Speaker 1: that you're in the depression, and then people aren't going
Speaker 1: to want to do that who feel relatively safe, and
Speaker 1: that's going to be a problem because you're going to
Speaker 1: end up killing all your grandparents, etc. David Arsani, Everybody,
Speaker 1: Senior writer, Nash Review. David, thanks so much as always, Man,
Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon. Thank you. You're in the
Speaker 1: Freedom High. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you some interesting backstory on how
Speaker 1: we got to the point where the Chinese, the Chinese
Speaker 1: government was allowing for these these wet markets, and the
Speaker 1: more you learn about them, the more just stunning the
Speaker 1: whole situation is. And it stretches back to the nineteen seventies.
Speaker 1: The Chinese Communist Party used to be used to be
Speaker 1: in charge of all agriculture right and the result of
Speaker 1: that was that there there was mass starvation and they
Speaker 1: had ideas like the Four Pests campaign, which was taken
Speaker 1: during the Great Leap Forward nineteen fifty eight to nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty two, where they were trying to get rid of
Speaker 1: all mosquitos, which I'm actually down for that, but turns
Speaker 1: out mosquitoes are necessary sparrows, rats and flies, and they
Speaker 1: you know, they thought that the sparrows were eating too
Speaker 1: much grain, and so they're going to kill all the
Speaker 1: sparrows and they'd have more food. But as a result
Speaker 1: of that, the population of locusts got completely out of
Speaker 1: control and swarmed the country and resulted in deforestation and
Speaker 1: famine and just complete and utter calamity. Terrible ideas from
Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party, things like that, the four Pests campaign,
Speaker 1: and it's just a horrifically stupid idea. But the Chinese
Speaker 1: Communist Party had lots of those. So they turned over
Speaker 1: agriculture to private interests in the seventies, so allowed for
Speaker 1: private farming. But then this was consolidated into some private industries,
Speaker 1: probably people who were connections in the Communist Party effectively
Speaker 1: gave them, you know, state sanctioned monopolies to produce food.
Speaker 1: And so at the local level, the Chinese peasants started
Speaker 1: raising exotic animals, not that exotic at first, things like turtles, snakes,
Speaker 1: small reptiles. They actually were taking in wild animals and
Speaker 1: then breeding them for food and creating their own little
Speaker 1: cottage industry of exotic meat essentially. And then this grew
Speaker 1: over time and it became culturally ingrained in some parts
Speaker 1: of China, and you started to also have these markets
Speaker 1: where they would bring all these animals that are not
Speaker 1: to masticated, that have not been bred for this purpose.
Speaker 1: They're incredibly unclean circumstances, and you can see photos and
Speaker 1: videos of it. It's it's pretty grotesque, but you know,
Speaker 1: they'll have just cages, the top cages, and there's just
Speaker 1: i mean, there's a waste everywhere. And they also then
Speaker 1: started bringing in truly exotic including endangered animals, and you'd
Speaker 1: be able to go to some of these wet markets
Speaker 1: and they would buy you could buy civets, which are
Speaker 1: threatened species, tigers, you can buy all these really rare
Speaker 1: animals at a premium for food in these markets because
Speaker 1: it's easy to hide them among the shipping in of
Speaker 1: all these different rare animals that nobody would and the
Speaker 1: Chinese government kind of turned a blind eye to it
Speaker 1: for a long time. I was like, okay, well, this
Speaker 1: is just you know, a way that people are making
Speaker 1: money and you know, not not really a big deal.
Speaker 1: And then in the year I think it was the
Speaker 1: early two thousands, they basically said, okay, well this is
Speaker 1: now a natural resource of China, and so the government
Speaker 1: sanctioned the continued trade in these exotic animals for food again,
Speaker 1: and they would bring them in live. They're not even
Speaker 1: bringing it's not like they're just trading. You have to remember,
Speaker 1: they're not bringing meat to the market. They're bringing them
Speaker 1: in live animals in cages. That's why they call it
Speaker 1: a wet market, because they killed them right there. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is Look, it's it's uncivilized stuff that's going on.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not good and it has obviously
Speaker 1: resulted in a any Look. I know people could talk
Speaker 1: about American factory farming on it, but you know, we're
Speaker 1: talking about domesticated animals that we all eat, and there's
Speaker 1: a sense of you know, you know what diseases you're
Speaker 1: working with in that animal population. Zooonotic transmission is so
Speaker 1: much easier when you're bringing hundreds and hundreds of different
Speaker 1: kinds of animals alive into cramped conditions and then having
Speaker 1: people handle them and then eat them. So this is
Speaker 1: this is China's The Chinese government is responsible for a
Speaker 1: lot of what has gone wrong here and we will
Speaker 1: not forget that. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson
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Speaker 1: you got some political news for you today, I know,
Speaker 1: or take a little break from the gloom and doom
Speaker 1: of the world is collapsing all around us. Bernie Sanders
Speaker 1: suspending it because he can't win. And we all know
Speaker 1: that at this point Bernie Sanders not gonna be able
Speaker 1: to make it happen. Cannot win. There's not going to
Speaker 1: be some last minute but I don't even know is
Speaker 1: there going to be a Democratic convention? Are people going
Speaker 1: to show up to this thing? Is? You know, who
Speaker 1: knows where we're gonna be with all of this? But
Speaker 1: Sanders is quitting the race, and that then is I
Speaker 1: think all that you need to know about where this
Speaker 1: Democratic primary is going. It's gonna be Joe Biden. I
Speaker 1: just it's so amazing to me that we were a
Speaker 1: country of three hundred and twenty million people and the
Speaker 1: Democrats have so many, you know, so many very wealthy,
Speaker 1: very influential, not just politicians, but people who are who
Speaker 1: are vocal Democrats, and the best thing they can come
Speaker 1: up with is the least to manage, imaginative, the least inspiring,
Speaker 1: and the least confidence building at a time when we
Speaker 1: really need a lot of that in our leadership. I've
Speaker 1: said this in the beginning, and I continue to say
Speaker 1: it now. I am thankful that we have Donald Trump
Speaker 1: handling this crisis and not Joe Biden. I'm not saying
Speaker 1: that Joe Biden wouldn't want to. I think any politician
Speaker 1: would do their best with this. I think I think
Speaker 1: that Donald Trump honestly is more capable and is a
Speaker 1: better executive than Joe Biden. Now I could be wrong,
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty confident that I'm not. But yeah, Bernie
Speaker 1: is out. After all the all the talk of how
Speaker 1: you know, he was the candidate who's going to win
Speaker 1: and he's going to be able to beat Trump, and
Speaker 1: he about a month ago was almost inevitable, it seemed,
Speaker 1: winning those early states, Biden having terrible showings. But in
Speaker 1: the big Democrats strongholds, they really they they just want
Speaker 1: a return to Obamaism. I think that's what it ultimately
Speaker 1: comes down to. They want things to go back to
Speaker 1: the way they used to be in their minds when
Speaker 1: Barack Obama was in charge. And the closest thing that
Speaker 1: they can have to that is Joe Biden as President
Speaker 1: of the United States. Who's his VP going to be? Well,
Speaker 1: that will certainly be interesting, won't it. Now A lot
Speaker 1: I've been saying that Hillary would be an interesting choice
Speaker 1: for him, and you got a figure that she'd have
Speaker 1: a lot of But you know, maybe given the direction
Speaker 1: of the country right now, they'll want someone younger. Maybe
Speaker 1: they'll want someone to represent the the younger generation and
Speaker 1: bring a different age perspective and dynamic into this situation.
Speaker 1: So I mean, last night, Ohio didn't even have its primary.
Speaker 1: I think they pushed it to June. He had Illinois
Speaker 1: and a handful of other states that did have their primaries.
Speaker 1: No one's even really paying attention. It's going to be
Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Joe Biden is going to be the Democrat
Speaker 1: nominee for president. It's amazing here we are. This guy's
Speaker 1: been running for president since the eighties, and I guess
Speaker 1: in a sense, maybe his persistence, his just dogged persistence
Speaker 1: in the face of what I think others would consider
Speaker 1: to be good judgment. Maybe it's paying off. I also,
Speaker 1: and not to bring this back to our primary discussion
Speaker 1: right now, which is not just here, it's everywhere, right.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing, nothing even comes close to the
Speaker 1: Wuhan virus in terms of our attention and urgency and
Speaker 1: the economic fallout of it. The risks to our vulnerable
Speaker 1: populook risk to all of us, not just the vulnerable population.
Speaker 1: As I've been telling you, healthy twenty five year olds
Speaker 1: can die from the flu, so that means they can
Speaker 1: definitely die from this too. I think these people who
Speaker 1: are thinking, who cares if I get it are really
Speaker 1: being dumb. Would you say that about the flu? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a flu string going around the office. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go in there and just get it, because you know
Speaker 1: who cares? I'll probably be okay. Anybody who's had the flu,
Speaker 1: and I have in recent memory, you really don't want that.
Speaker 1: I actually got the flu, and I started my syndicated
Speaker 1: radio show like about a week or two before it
Speaker 1: was it was miserable, so I remember what that was like.
Speaker 1: We have these these two candidates out Trump and Biden,
Speaker 1: and their look. They're both in the high risk population,
Speaker 1: and they're gonna be out there, They're gonna have to
Speaker 1: be interacting with people. They have to keep doing their jobs.
Speaker 1: And it's gonna feel like a national political crisis if,
Speaker 1: in fact, one or both of the leaders of their
Speaker 1: respective parties comes down with COVID nineteen. And I do
Speaker 1: think we have to take that possibility seriously. I know
Speaker 1: they're taking it seriously. They're taking the temperature of journalists
Speaker 1: as they go in to the briefing room for the
Speaker 1: White House now in the West Wing. So you know,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a political campaign unlike anything else
Speaker 1: we've ever seen, because people are already talking about the
Speaker 1: possibility of online voting, and now you're really you know,
Speaker 1: when you got paper ballots and people showing up hacking
Speaker 1: and you know, the Russians and all this, that's that's
Speaker 1: a lot of honestly, a lot of hoopla, a lot
Speaker 1: of whatever. If you're really going to do it all online,
Speaker 1: that gets a little trickier that than me. And could
Speaker 1: we even set up this cyber infrastructure and in order
Speaker 1: to do that, Now people are gonna say, oh, that's
Speaker 1: not going to happen. Well, we'll see. I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody thought a month ago that there was going to
Speaker 1: be a shutdown of schools, hotels, restaurants, everything shutting down
Speaker 1: basically except for a critical life services. So Bernie Sanders
Speaker 1: is gonna be out there, get back to the political
Speaker 1: thread here for a moment. He looks like he's finished,
Speaker 1: and I can already see where this is heading. I
Speaker 1: think a lot of you probably recognize this at this
Speaker 1: stage too. You know, the Democratic campaign is going to
Speaker 1: be this summer going into the fall, a new new Deal.
Speaker 1: They're going to say this is like the Great Depression
Speaker 1: and World War Two, and we need a new deal.
Speaker 1: And all the analysis, all the research that shows that
Speaker 1: many of the government actions taken during the New Deal
Speaker 1: worsened the Great Depression. That will all be suppressed, forgotten, refuted, ignored,
Speaker 1: and they're going to say that what really needs to
Speaker 1: happen here. They're going to be running on a platform
Speaker 1: of the most massive government expansion of our lives, and
Speaker 1: with that a lot of socialism. Crisis leads to radical change.
Speaker 1: The Democratic Party has been getting ready for radical change
Speaker 1: for a long time, even though Bernie Sanders would not
Speaker 1: be the standard bearer of this. And look back at
Speaker 1: Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He's somebody who the left, you know, reveres,
Speaker 1: even though put Japanese Americans in internment camps and did
Speaker 1: extreme things during World War Two. He is revered mostly
Speaker 1: not because of his actions in World War Two so
Speaker 1: much as the New Deal here at home. And when
Speaker 1: you look at that, that enormous expansion of the government,
Speaker 1: the Democrats are not going to be able to help
Speaker 1: themselves from trying to use this crisis as an opportunity
Speaker 1: to do that all over again. Take what was done
Speaker 1: one hundred years ago roughly, I mean a little, you know,
Speaker 1: a little less than a hundred years ago, but ninety
Speaker 1: years ago with the New Deal, and go forward with
Speaker 1: a dramatic expansion of all of the aspects of it
Speaker 1: that they think can you know, and they'll talk about gray.
Speaker 1: You'll be hearing about green jobs and how the government
Speaker 1: should be paying people to put solar panels on rooftops everywhere.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's gonna be all this stuff. We
Speaker 1: are going to be having a replay here of some
Speaker 1: of the debates about government and the role of government
Speaker 1: from crisis periods in the twentieth century. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: replaying that now, so you heard it here, My friends,
Speaker 1: Democrats are going to be advocating for a new new deal,
Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna call it the Green
Speaker 1: New Deal overall, but they're they're going to have some
Speaker 1: role out of it, some name of it. And Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: who they claim as a moderate but is actually not
Speaker 1: moderate on his positions at all, because he's where the
Speaker 1: Democratic parties. The Democratic Party is not moderate. Joe Biden
Speaker 1: is going to be advocating for a massive expansion of
Speaker 1: government and you know that is going to be that
Speaker 1: that's going to be the platform. I mean, they're going
Speaker 1: to go forward forget about this, you know. So in
Speaker 1: a sense, it'll be a return to Obamaism insofar as
Speaker 1: what would Obama do if he were faced with this
Speaker 1: crisis right now? We saw that they did in the
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight financial crisis, just turn it into
Speaker 1: opportunity to expand government spending all over the place. I mean,
Speaker 1: Obama spend trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars on
Speaker 1: items that the Democratic Party have wanted for a long time.
Speaker 1: So Biden is effectively going to carry that mantle now
Speaker 1: as he's got he's gonna even better crisis if he
Speaker 1: wins to remake the American economy, expand government dramatically, and
Speaker 1: turn us into a European style social welfare state with
Speaker 1: very you know, centralized control of the private sector by
Speaker 1: the government. So there we go. I would also say,
Speaker 1: I meant to tell you about the good side, and
Speaker 1: I kind of skipped past it. The way this gets
Speaker 1: better fast. If we're pretty good about the lockdowns, we're
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. It's not gonna be fun. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be very scary for a while. But the only way
Speaker 1: that this gets like we're celebrating in the streets and
Speaker 1: everything's gonna be cool is in the next let's say,
Speaker 1: three to six months, would be if they develop some
Speaker 1: ways of treating this where you go to the hospital
Speaker 1: if you can't breathe, they give you the drugs, and
Speaker 1: you know, you have a even if you are in
Speaker 1: their critical risk population, you end up having a you know,
Speaker 1: you know, if you have a ninety nine percent chance
Speaker 1: of survival with the treatment, with the anti viral drugs
Speaker 1: that they can give you. If we get to that point,
Speaker 1: things get better really fast. And you know that's so
Speaker 1: if there's ever been a time when we could call
Speaker 1: together all of the best minds in the world on microbiology, virology,
Speaker 1: you name it. I mean, whatever, the epidemiology. The people
Speaker 1: that have real expertise in this, we need them to
Speaker 1: come together like the like the Avengers and just do
Speaker 1: every and the big pharmaceutical companies we need them to
Speaker 1: come up with something here to deal with this. We
Speaker 1: need all the expertise of the world brought together on
Speaker 1: this one. I mean, this is the closest thing I've
Speaker 1: ever seen or felt to that moment in the movie
Speaker 1: Offering arm and Getting where they bring together all these
Speaker 1: guys and they have to drill into the asteroid and
Speaker 1: you put the nuclear device into the whole thing. We
Speaker 1: need a team of like the best deep core drillers
Speaker 1: in the world, except they're the best virologists in the world,
Speaker 1: people that study this and come up and team up
Speaker 1: with the smartest multinational pharmaceutical companies and have some treatment
Speaker 1: for this. The treatment is much more likely to come
Speaker 1: online quickly than a vaccine is just not going to
Speaker 1: come on lunk quickly because the risk is too high.
Speaker 1: As I said that, you're going to kill people by
Speaker 1: giving them even if the risk is low that you're
Speaker 1: going to kill people who wants to take the possibility
Speaker 1: that you're going to give them a heightened form of
Speaker 1: this disease and you might not find out for thirty
Speaker 1: or sixty days after they get it, and you're gonna
Speaker 1: give it to millions of people. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: not they need to be sure that's what they're going
Speaker 1: to say. We might get to the point. I mean,
Speaker 1: I wonder when people just want they'll want to take
Speaker 1: the risk themselves and just say, you know, eject me.
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't know. We could we could
Speaker 1: be heading for those kinds of extreme measures. But let's
Speaker 1: just I am hoping that there will be within sixty
Speaker 1: days a breakthrough on the treatment of this. Not a
Speaker 1: cure or not a vaccine, but a breakthrough on the
Speaker 1: treatment of it would be a huge sigh of relief
Speaker 1: for the whole world right now, particularly here in the
Speaker 1: United States. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the
Speaker 1: Buck Sex and Show podcast really does stun me to
Speaker 1: what degree the democratic establishment continues to ignore the needs
Speaker 1: and the ideas of younger people and if elected president.
Speaker 1: By the way, it's not only that we're going to
Speaker 1: fight for our agenda. We're going to involve the young
Speaker 1: people in the decision making process in a way this
Speaker 1: country has never seen before, because this is a great
Speaker 1: general So those are nature achievements. We've changed the political
Speaker 1: dialogue in this country. We are winning overwhelmingly the support
Speaker 1: of young people, and they're all gonna be told now
Speaker 1: go vote for Joe Biden. The Bernie Coalition is going
Speaker 1: to be handed over to the Democrat establishment, as I
Speaker 1: think was really just expected and planned all along. None
Speaker 1: of this really surprises me. I think this is this
Speaker 1: is really what we should have been thinking all along
Speaker 1: was going to happen in a way. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: easy now, hindsight's twenty twenty. It's easy to say that.
Speaker 1: But it all makes sense, doesn't it. Oh yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: we're all radicals, but we're not really gonna let this
Speaker 1: like crazy old socialist. We're gonna put it in the
Speaker 1: hands of a too old for the job career machine
Speaker 1: democrat politician like Biden, not the guy running around talking
Speaker 1: about revolution going to be a revolution, yeah, Bernie style. Also,
Speaker 1: we heard from the govn Well, how'd heard from him
Speaker 1: in a long time. But he has a couple of
Speaker 1: pet donkeys that he's hanging out with. And here is
Speaker 1: his message to all of us who are stuck in
Speaker 1: quarantine play twenty. See. The important thing is that you
Speaker 1: say at home, because there's a curfew now, okay, no
Speaker 1: one is allowed out, especially someone that is like seventy
Speaker 1: two years old. After you're sixty five. You know a
Speaker 1: lot of our house and in my California. So we
Speaker 1: stay home and we eat here. Right. Oh yeah, there's yummy,
Speaker 1: and it's the whiskey, and there's Lulu. Lulu love scarrots,
Speaker 1: whiskey love scirrots. I just said my little bit of
Speaker 1: Bigan food. Oh that yummy. Oh see, that's what we do.
Speaker 1: We don't go out. We don't go to restaurants. We
Speaker 1: don't do anything like that anymore. Here we just eat
Speaker 1: with whiskey and b Lulu. We have a good time
Speaker 1: be getting entertained. Look at the beautiful smells she has.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh yes, the youngest. We have a good
Speaker 1: time eating you together, so much more fun than going outside.
Speaker 1: No more restaurants, okay, no more restaurants. Forget all that
Speaker 1: company gatherings, restaurants and orders days out of the window.
Speaker 1: You stay home, you stay home. You stay home with
Speaker 1: the donkeys. You stay home with them on your feet.
Speaker 1: Whiskey and Lulu the best of the things that you can. Uh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Schwarzeninger seventy two. Man, I spent so much of my
Speaker 1: youth watching that guy in movies. It was It's incredible
Speaker 1: in retrospect. I watched them in The Terminator Commando Predator.
Speaker 1: I watched them in total recall. I feel like no
Speaker 1: one watches that one anymore, but I watched that movie
Speaker 1: a lot of times. We I own these on VA
Speaker 1: my brothers and I own these on VHR. That's why
Speaker 1: I'm such an action movie junkie to this day. But
Speaker 1: he's saying, stay at home with your donkeys. I don't
Speaker 1: have donkeys. I wish you could see the video. The
Speaker 1: videos amazing. He's got these little donkeys with him, Which
Speaker 1: is like producer Mark, if I gave you a pet
Speaker 1: donkey to take home, would that keep you and missus Mark?
Speaker 1: Wouldn't keep you guys company? Or would you rather not
Speaker 1: have livestock in the house right now? I'd rather maybe
Speaker 1: a dog? You go dog first, Yeah, But if your
Speaker 1: only choice was a miniature donkey or nothing, what would
Speaker 1: you take um, maybe maybe the donkey right now because
Speaker 1: the wife's still on Long Island, so I'm a little
Speaker 1: a little lonely, so you're solo. Yeah, see this like
Speaker 1: I took my parents Frenchie Tlu. Lulu is the name
Speaker 1: of his donkey, which I think is pretty funny. We've
Speaker 1: got Telu for Telula and those of you that watch
Speaker 1: on the on the Pluto TV stream the show Pluto
Speaker 1: TV channel to forty eight, the first those are you
Speaker 1: who have it's a free app. Guys downloaded. You can
Speaker 1: watch the video of me doing the mobile Freedom Hunt
Speaker 1: the Quarantine Freedom Hut, but to lose sometimes appears in
Speaker 1: the shot she likes. She also likes to walk over
Speaker 1: and put her belly on my feet when I'm doing
Speaker 1: the show. That's like her favorite position for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but she likes to do these things.
Speaker 1: But it's nice to have a little, a little furry companion,
Speaker 1: except when she wakes me up because she wants the
Speaker 1: producer Mark not only I told you about the headbutting
Speaker 1: the food bowl, which is crazy, and now I've learned
Speaker 1: I've got to have a very precise mix of dry
Speaker 1: and wet food for her in her bowl or else,
Speaker 1: she'll start headbutting the bowl all over my apartment like
Speaker 1: a bowl. I guess she is a bulldog with us
Speaker 1: for different reasons. If I have any door to any
Speaker 1: room in the apartment closed, she'll wake me up and
Speaker 1: she'll scratch at the door until I leave it open.
Speaker 1: She wants access everywhere. Nothing is allowed to be off
Speaker 1: limits to her. That's every dog. You can't close doors. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't like they don't like closed doors. I don't
Speaker 1: know how. Yeah, it's she if I if I try
Speaker 1: to close the bathroom she doesn't obviously go in the
Speaker 1: bathroom for any important reason. We haven't trained her to
Speaker 1: like sit on the potty yet. But if the bathroom
Speaker 1: doors closed, she will scratch it and make me open it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this? You mean you don't like
Speaker 1: going to the bathroom with your dog? No, see, I
Speaker 1: like to close the door. But but more to the point,
Speaker 1: even if no one's in there, she just insists on
Speaker 1: the door being opened. She wants for That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: She wants free access to every room in the apartment
Speaker 1: or else. She'll drive me nuts until I do it.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, I think she's maybe it's
Speaker 1: just she's very French, but this is the way we're
Speaker 1: doing it. She's very curious. Yeah, we got roll call
Speaker 1: coming up. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts.
Speaker 1: Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app,
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, so we
Speaker 1: got to do an on air. I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's it's not a correction, because we're just
Speaker 1: telling you what had been reported. Axios has now retracted
Speaker 1: that Sanders suspended his campaign. So as you hear this,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe that that will be unretracted, but
Speaker 1: now it is retracted. So look, Bernie's not going to
Speaker 1: be the nominee. He might as well quit. The whole
Speaker 1: thing's a joke at this point, and honestly, nobody cares
Speaker 1: because we're all stuck indoors and hoping that humanity doesn't
Speaker 1: come to an end. I'm just saying, let's do roll call.
Speaker 1: Everybody's the show ain't over yet, folks, keeping it real.
Speaker 1: It's time for roll call, all right, Roll call Facebook
Speaker 1: dot com, Slashbuck Sexton or Team Buck at I heart
Speaker 1: media dot com. James kicks it off. For us. James
Speaker 1: is a great name. It's actually tactically my first name.
Speaker 1: Learn something new every day on this show. You know
Speaker 1: that the end is near when Tom Brady isn't a Patriot. St.
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day and bars are closed and March madness is
Speaker 1: a virus sanitized shields hie. Yeah, man, you guys all
Speaker 1: know I told you I did shows. You're probably like
Speaker 1: book you will selling you four Like I was like, guys,
Speaker 1: the country we're in great shape. Things are amazing. You
Speaker 1: know three months ago, six months ago, nine months ago.
Speaker 1: That's kept telling you. I kept telling you. You You know
Speaker 1: it is true. Brucer Mark, wasn't I telling people things
Speaker 1: are as good as they're gonna get in this country
Speaker 1: For a long time, I was a happy man. I
Speaker 1: was telling everybody it's not gonna last forever. Yesterday something
Speaker 1: great happened. What was that? Tom Brady left the Patriots.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so there are good things. I guess that
Speaker 1: still go on. He's going to the Buccaneers. Yeah. Do
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna have like a like a four
Speaker 1: and twelve season? Now? No, I think they'll be pretty good.
Speaker 1: I just don't get why the Buccaneers, I mean, how
Speaker 1: many years could he possibly have left. I mean, the
Speaker 1: guy's in a machine. I could see him playing till fifty.
Speaker 1: He said he wants to play till he's fifty. That's
Speaker 1: kind of amazing. Yeah, he's forty three now. But I
Speaker 1: mean the Buccaneers they're an okay team right now. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much better Brady makes them at this
Speaker 1: point in his career. Yeah, that's a fair point, all right,
Speaker 1: Kelly Buck. I've been a loyal listener for about three years,
Speaker 1: and I never miss a podcast. I was mowing the
Speaker 1: lawn today and met a neighbor named Rose from the Philippines.
Speaker 1: She's from the Philippines and has only been the States
Speaker 1: for about a year and a half. She told me
Speaker 1: she applied for her visa to come to the States
Speaker 1: when she was seventeen. She waited twenty four years for
Speaker 1: it to be approved, and even turned down marriage proposals
Speaker 1: because it may have affected her place in line to
Speaker 1: come to the States. She's single and living with their
Speaker 1: sister at age forty two. She had nothing good to
Speaker 1: say about those who cheat by claiming asylum and is
Speaker 1: a incense by their claims of rights. She says, what
Speaker 1: rights do they have when their lawbreakers. From the start.
Speaker 1: It was a very enlightening conversation Shields High Kelly I
Speaker 1: brought this up many times. Legal immigrants who go through
Speaker 1: a real struggle to get into this country and be
Speaker 1: able to stay here have you know, they have this
Speaker 1: feeling that they're chumps because they actually did it the
Speaker 1: right way. They did the way this country asked them to,
Speaker 1: the people of this country asked them to. So I'm
Speaker 1: glad you were able to have that enlightening conversation. It's
Speaker 1: not surprising that somebody who went through all of that
Speaker 1: process feels that way. And it's just a reminder to
Speaker 1: all of us that you know, the rules either apply.
Speaker 1: You know, the laws, either the law or it's not.
Speaker 1: It can't be this both ways or only sometimes. And
Speaker 1: there's a lot of lawlessness in immigration law specifically, and
Speaker 1: the open borders crowd is going to have a really
Speaker 1: tough time explaining why we shouldn't have control of our
Speaker 1: borders when it seems like border controls may have been
Speaker 1: one of the few things early on we got right
Speaker 1: in dealing with this pandemic. Tim Rights, why doesn't the
Speaker 1: president require ten or twenty billion dollars for border wall
Speaker 1: and enforcement in the bill being hammered out with the
Speaker 1: House Democrats. It's being larded up with so much ridiculous
Speaker 1: fever swamp dreamlib fantasies. Trump should say he'll sign it
Speaker 1: when they put it. When they put in border enforcement
Speaker 1: and wall funding, we could help the economy by creating
Speaker 1: jobs too. Canada just closed their borders to any nonresident,
Speaker 1: non citizen folk, so border security must work to controls
Speaker 1: zoonotic disease and pandemic migration. We should certainly follow Canada
Speaker 1: and Europe's lead, since Libs always want to emulate both
Speaker 1: and gain some control over our borders and not waste
Speaker 1: a good crisis shields time. Yeah, Tim, yep, that's true
Speaker 1: about the borders. The President is not going to be
Speaker 1: able to try to slip him in the Congress right now.
Speaker 1: They're just look if Republicans have to be the bigger
Speaker 1: the bigger people on this one, or you know, take
Speaker 1: the high road on this one by not larding it up.
Speaker 1: I think that we just got to get this thing
Speaker 1: done and get it done properly. We need emergency financial
Speaker 1: measures to keep this country from collapsing. Doug Hey Buck
Speaker 1: sobering insightful and entertaining podcast last week. Thank you. With
Speaker 1: some downtime, I have been able to go back and
Speaker 1: listen to pass podcasts from the Freedom How I missed
Speaker 1: last year? Wow things Now that things have played out,
Speaker 1: your prognostications were dead on Mueller, impeachment, Democrat candidates, you
Speaker 1: name it. Not surprised but even more impressed. Good job.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Doug. I will say my anything
Speaker 1: that had to do with national security investigations or just
Speaker 1: national security in general. Notice how I was not panicked
Speaker 1: about the Kurds in Syria. I was right. I was not.
Speaker 1: I was correct at every and look, I'm not sitting
Speaker 1: here to talk about how wonderful I am. I don't
Speaker 1: do that. Other hosts do that. I wish people would
Speaker 1: recognize it's kind of weird, but other hosts are always
Speaker 1: talking about there's only one host who should walk around
Speaker 1: being like I'm the most amazing at this and we
Speaker 1: all know, we all know who he is, and everyone
Speaker 1: else should should have some serious humility. I think, no
Speaker 1: matter how rich or famous you may be, but I've
Speaker 1: been right on everything having to do with them other
Speaker 1: probe from day one, from the very beginning, even more
Speaker 1: right than some of the people who Now you know,
Speaker 1: I tweeted out to I haven't heard back from from
Speaker 1: Hugh hugh It, I tweeted out, and look, I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with you, Hugh It. He
Speaker 1: seems like a nice guy. I've never met him, but
Speaker 1: I mean, if I've heard, he's a nice enough dude.
Speaker 1: But you know, he came at me kind of hard
Speaker 1: when I said that the indictment of the Russian troll
Speaker 1: farm was a PR stunt and was going to go nowhere.
Speaker 1: And it was and I was right. And he's a
Speaker 1: constitutional law scholar who taught at Harvard. I don't even
Speaker 1: have a law degree, but I know more about national
Speaker 1: security than he does, so I was right. So there's
Speaker 1: that anyway, Ryan, hey Buck, serious questions about the Chinese virus.
Speaker 1: From what I'm readying, they're a little reading, it says reading,
Speaker 1: and it's not my fault reading. There are a little
Speaker 1: over seven thousand deaths worldwide. I believe it started in
Speaker 1: November of twenty seventeen. However, when you look at flu deaths,
Speaker 1: we're at one hundred and nine thousand globally for twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Am I missing something. Why. The mass hysteria over something
Speaker 1: that is killing not even ten percent of what the
Speaker 1: flu has in a short time frame got my shields
Speaker 1: of skepticism real high on this one election year hysteria
Speaker 1: look ryan important always to ask why. And I think
Speaker 1: people that approach any of these questions in good faith
Speaker 1: are well within their rights to continue to ask for
Speaker 1: more information and more more of a really a justification
Speaker 1: for our we we're taking these steps. So here's where
Speaker 1: it's at. The flu, we take no precautions whatsoever really
Speaker 1: as a society to avoid We essentially have like free
Speaker 1: flowing flu all over the place, and you just hope
Speaker 1: you don't get it. But this disease is ten times
Speaker 1: as lethal, maybe twenty times as lethal as the flu.
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have a much if you do that,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a much much higher body count. There's
Speaker 1: also the belief right now in the scientific community that
Speaker 1: it is more easily transmitted than the flu. Now you know,
Speaker 1: who knows, that might be adjusted, but so you might
Speaker 1: have a higher number of infected in the overall population
Speaker 1: and a much higher number of deaths. And remember the
Speaker 1: death's number isn't from a structural medical standpoint isn't necessarily
Speaker 1: the thing the only thing that you have to focus on.
Speaker 1: There's also ICU admissions. People that have to be in
Speaker 1: the ICU for three or four weeks on a ventilator
Speaker 1: because they get COVID nineteen. They are you know, that's
Speaker 1: a huge drain on the system. And we need to
Speaker 1: give people that care, obviously, but we can only give
Speaker 1: so many people that care. There's only so many beds.
Speaker 1: You know. This is where the sander Nistas and the
Speaker 1: promise of universal healthcare and free healthcare for everyone. Okay,
Speaker 1: everyone gets free healthcare according to the government. What happens
Speaker 1: when you have a thousand and six people and you
Speaker 1: only have ten doctors for them. What happens you have
Speaker 1: ten thousand people that need icucare and you've got five
Speaker 1: thousand ICU beds. You're going to wave around the Bernie
Speaker 1: Sanders proclamation that everybody gets free healthcare exactly. So this
Speaker 1: is a lesson for all of us in that regard.
Speaker 1: But to really get to the meat of your question,
Speaker 1: if we wait on this, by the time we know
Speaker 1: that all these estimates are correct, as in ten to
Speaker 1: twenty times a fatality rate higher transmissibility. By the time
Speaker 1: we get there, it's too late and you won't be
Speaker 1: able to stop the collapse at least temporarily of the
Speaker 1: healthcare system and mass casualties. You know, tens of thousands,
Speaker 1: if not hundreds of thousands dead from this in a month.
Speaker 1: So that's where we are. As I've been saying, if
Speaker 1: a few weeks pass and you know, who knows, they're Oh.
Speaker 1: One other part of possible good news. Something we really
Speaker 1: need to find out is do you have immunity to
Speaker 1: this if you get it and you get through it.
Speaker 1: They won't. They won't confirm that yet. I'd like to
Speaker 1: think the answers yes, they're saying they don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: then what we might have to We might have are
Speaker 1: a lot of people who will be immune to it
Speaker 1: when they recover, and we're going to need those people,
Speaker 1: especially if they're younger and healthy, to really step up
Speaker 1: and help out with every you know, do a lot.
Speaker 1: And it's going to be and I'm hoping there'll be
Speaker 1: millions of people that if this spreads the way they say,
Speaker 1: it's going to the young and healthy who get it,
Speaker 1: and there there could be you know, there could be
Speaker 1: millions of them would be able to be out there
Speaker 1: and you know, continue necessary services and do things for
Speaker 1: the rest of the of the of the vulnerable population
Speaker 1: that we really need to keep sequestered away. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we can't. We can't take the risk right now. Is
Speaker 1: essentially the answer to your question, Ryan, because if they're right,
Speaker 1: it's going to be catastrophic, if they're right, that the
Speaker 1: numbers are going to spike in this way and overwhelm
Speaker 1: the healthcare system, because remember ten ventilators, twenty patients who
Speaker 1: need them, they show up, guess what, no ventilator. You
Speaker 1: can't breathe. Maybe you've got hours to live, maybe maybe
Speaker 1: even less. So you're just you're gonna people are gonna die.
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna happen. They're just not gonna have what's
Speaker 1: the doctor gonna do. Pull the ventilator out to one person,
Speaker 1: let them die so that somebody else gets a ventilate.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is what is happening in Italy.
Speaker 1: So that's where we are. Italy has made this whole
Speaker 1: thing very different in a lot of people's minds because
Speaker 1: we're seeing this play out. We have real numbers. We
Speaker 1: trust the Italian government's reporting on this more than we
Speaker 1: trust a Chinese government. And Italy has a you know,
Speaker 1: first world healthcare system, very developed, similar to our own,
Speaker 1: you know, world class doctors, serious medical facilities, and they're
Speaker 1: completely shell shocked by this. So that's what really that
Speaker 1: looked Italy was. The change for me was oh, okay, no,
Speaker 1: this we're about to get hit with a tidal way.
Speaker 1: This is real, and I look, if I'm wrong, just
Speaker 1: stay with me, your team, as you have, many of
Speaker 1: you have now for years. And I'm going on and
Speaker 1: it'll be this tune the ninth year that I've been
Speaker 1: in this business, and I think the eighth year I've
Speaker 1: been doing radio. So some of you've been with me
Speaker 1: a long time, and you know that if I'm wrong
Speaker 1: on this, not only will I admit it, I'll be thrilled.
Speaker 1: I'll be doing a little buck dance here in the
Speaker 1: Freedom Hup, going wild if it turns out that this
Speaker 1: is not nearly as bad and all this stuff was
Speaker 1: a you know, excessive and everything else. As I've told you,
Speaker 1: I think the chance of that happening is about one percent.
Speaker 1: Dan dear Buck, thanks so much for sharing your wealth
Speaker 1: of knowledge with all of us. To tune in love
Speaker 1: your show most out of any on the TV or
Speaker 1: the radio. I ran out of current podcast to listen to,
Speaker 1: so I was listening to some oldies but goodies, and
Speaker 1: I was listening to podcast entitled The Impeachment Turkey's Cooked.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you remember what you said that day, approximately
Speaker 1: twenty one minutes in. I just in case you don't remember,
Speaker 1: you were talking about things, We're going so good for
Speaker 1: our country, but you had this ominous feeling that something
Speaker 1: bad was going to happen this year. Well you were right,
Speaker 1: some profit you turned out to be. Just wanted to
Speaker 1: remind you of that. Thanks again for entertaining us and
Speaker 1: lighting us. You are the best. That's kind of what
Speaker 1: I've been saying. Guys, I knew that, you know, Mark,
Speaker 1: can we pull pull, Let's pull from that, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty one minutes in on the Impeachment Turkey's Cook. Let's
Speaker 1: s's grab that audio for tomorrow, just so I can
Speaker 1: hear back what I said because I had this feeling.
Speaker 1: I remember, I had a feeling before nine to eleven,
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, like weeks before nine to eleven.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say that I'm have premonitions or something.
Speaker 1: But I remember thinking, you know what, my generation and
Speaker 1: we're all just we're all just running around. We're kind
Speaker 1: of superficial. We're just partying. You know, what's our great fight?
Speaker 1: What's our great struggle? You know there's you know, the
Speaker 1: stock market, you know is seeing well. I mean, actually
Speaker 1: there's a big tech tech sector collapse. But you know, overall,
Speaker 1: the economy was strong and we didn't have any enemies,
Speaker 1: and there was just a sense of an almost blase euphoria.
Speaker 1: And I thought, what what? And I wasn't thinking that
Speaker 1: something terrible is going to happen that by the way,
Speaker 1: that I won't say that, but I was thinking, like, man,
Speaker 1: we just don't there is no fight for this generation.
Speaker 1: And then the planes ran into the towers in the
Speaker 1: Pentagon a few weeks later. I mean, I'm really and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, my generation certainly, and the generation above
Speaker 1: me and the generation above that, we certainly have a
Speaker 1: fight on our hands. And we did. You're in the
Speaker 1: Freedom Hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right,
Speaker 1: we get Jack. It's really one of my favorite names.
Speaker 1: I think Jack's a great name. You ask for feedback
Speaker 1: from listeners around the country. I find myself in the
Speaker 1: disappointing position of being in ground zero for the Commonwealth
Speaker 1: of Virginia. Williamsburg has nine confirmed cases and one death.
Speaker 1: The schools have been closed for two weeks to start with.
Speaker 1: Most government offices closed at noon on Friday and will
Speaker 1: be closed Monday. Local businesses are feeling they hit. Grocery
Speaker 1: stores have some empty shelves, but not overwhelming numbers. In
Speaker 1: my neighborhood, more people are walking, which can't be a
Speaker 1: bad thing. I'm working on my woodlathe more. Never let
Speaker 1: a crisis pass. Yeah, Jack, I want to do more
Speaker 1: of that. You know. Tomorrow in the third hour, I'll
Speaker 1: talk to you about how I'm gonna try to make
Speaker 1: a list and actually put it up on the wall
Speaker 1: of what do I want to accomplish during this time
Speaker 1: of social distancing? What do I want to accomplish? And
Speaker 1: by the way, another thing that I've been saying or
Speaker 1: thinking about I'm gonna do. I'm gonna start doing it. Team.
Speaker 1: I'd like to do some Facebook live with all of you,
Speaker 1: or I just sit and we hang out and talk.
Speaker 1: You know, this will be our way of dealing with
Speaker 1: social distancing. It's easy obviously, I've got to set up
Speaker 1: at home where i can do this now, so some
Speaker 1: of you write to me and let me know. You know,
Speaker 1: is the best time in the evening. That's probably when
Speaker 1: I'm most likely to do it, you know, maybe around
Speaker 1: seven Eastern so anybody's done with their workday. I know
Speaker 1: a lot of people are working from home now, but
Speaker 1: that I don't want to interrupt family time. But you know,
Speaker 1: there's also everyone's home all day with their families, so
Speaker 1: maybe and you're not seeing family that you're no living
Speaker 1: here any works, you're not traveling, So I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think of one of the best
Speaker 1: time is to do this. But I want to have
Speaker 1: more interaction with all of you, and I also want
Speaker 1: to start. I'll pull together the ten books you must
Speaker 1: read during quarantine. How about that that's a good a
Speaker 1: good thing for us to have. I'll pull some of
Speaker 1: them movie books I've already or books I've already read, others, won't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you that one book that I've
Speaker 1: already set aside for my quarantine, and you're gonna say,
Speaker 1: I can't believe you haven't read that, And I'm that's
Speaker 1: why I'm reading it. Guys, I admit there are some
Speaker 1: weird book gap book book gaps, gap books, book gaps
Speaker 1: that I've missed. Buck Speak English Good Moby Dick, never
Speaker 1: assigned it and never read it. I'm gonna be read
Speaker 1: movie Dick while I'm in self quarantine, and I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what I think about that one. I'm obviously watching
Speaker 1: a fair amount of shows. I've gotten into this show
Speaker 1: the Boys, and we'll talk more about this. I mean, guys,
Speaker 1: I think this is important for all of us, and
Speaker 1: I want to hear from all of you, and I
Speaker 1: could see more people writing into Roll Call. Please do that.
Speaker 1: It is Mike. You are my connection to the outside
Speaker 1: world right now, all of you who listen to this,
Speaker 1: who write in, who watch us, and we're just gonna
Speaker 1: try to find more ways Producer Mark and I to
Speaker 1: you know, have community, and you know you can always
Speaker 1: address something directly, you know, to Producer Mark if you
Speaker 1: want a Roll Call to to get one of his
Speaker 1: salty answers. So you know, guys, reach out to us.
Speaker 1: We're gonna be reaching out to you every day and
Speaker 1: we'll be back here tomorrow. We're all in this together.
Speaker 1: Shields High