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Speaker 1: virus because it's just COVID nineteen is easier to say.

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Speaker 1: But you've got at least seven thousand deaths around the world.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be a lot. It's gonna be a lot

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Speaker 1: more than that. And now, yeah, bad flu season, we'll

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Speaker 1: kill sixty at eighty thousand people in the United States alone,

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Speaker 1: So that's real. But this is different and worse than

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Speaker 1: the flu. We're there. I was really hoping that was

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Speaker 1: not going to be the case. I was really hoping

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Speaker 1: we could sit here and just say it just the

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Speaker 1: flu part two. But it's not. No one now who

439
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Speaker 1: studies this, no one now who looks at this is

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Speaker 1: claiming otherwise. So you know, this is where we get

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Speaker 1: to the shelter and place declaration. That looks like it's

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Speaker 1: already happened in San Francisco. It looks like it may

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Speaker 1: happen here in New York City. New York State has

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Speaker 1: seventeen hundred cases. And I know you guys live in

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Speaker 1: different states, but this is now going to be the

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Speaker 1: test case for because we're gonna have the most the

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Speaker 1: most people confirmed to have the disease, and you're going

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Speaker 1: to see the greatest influx of resources probably in the

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Speaker 1: hospital system here because it's going to need it. Seventeen

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Speaker 1: hundred cases probably by the end of the day, it'll

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Speaker 1: be closer to two thousand, almost a thousand cases in

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Speaker 1: New York City alone, and a rough estimate is that

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Speaker 1: whatever we think the number is, it's ten times that number.

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Speaker 1: So if we think there are a thousand cases of

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Speaker 1: New York City, they're ten thousand cases in New York City.

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Speaker 1: If they're ten thousand cases in New York City, meaning

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Speaker 1: people that actually have the disease, a lot of them

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Speaker 1: don't know it. Most of them don't know it. They're

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Speaker 1: walking around, they're infecting people. Now, there's eight million people

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Speaker 1: eight point five or so a million people in New

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Speaker 1: York which means that obviously a lot of people don't

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Speaker 1: have it. But ten thousand, if you spread it to

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Speaker 1: two people at a time, and they spread it to

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Speaker 1: two people and they spent it at two people, exponential

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Speaker 1: growth means that you're going to have roughly half the

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Speaker 1: city in a pretty short order of time that has this.

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Speaker 1: That's what would happen if you just allow people to

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Speaker 1: go about their lives and do everything. So we are

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Speaker 1: hoping to bring down that number so that there are

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Speaker 1: enough beds because when we get to ten or fifteen

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Speaker 1: thousand people who are hospitalized with this, which will happen

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Speaker 1: relatively quickly. Based on the numbers. We're already seeing their

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Speaker 1: need to be their resources in place to treat them.

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Speaker 1: So we are right now waiting for the onslaught. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is a little bit like we're in the front

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Speaker 1: line of an infantry battle. You know. We're in the

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Speaker 1: front line of the phae Lex and we can see

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Speaker 1: the enemy coming over the crest of the hill across

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Speaker 1: from us, and it is big, and it is a

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Speaker 1: scary looking enemy, and we have to just sort of

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Speaker 1: wait for it. You know. I've been talking to friends

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Speaker 1: about how the city after nine to eleven we were scared,

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Speaker 1: but we also knew right away. Many of us, I

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Speaker 1: think had a change in mentality to Okay, now this mean,

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Speaker 1: this means war. And when you're fighting against a human enemy,

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Speaker 1: no matter how terrifying their tactics and how evil they

487
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Speaker 1: may be, as al Qaeda was and is, you know

488
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Speaker 1: that they're vulnerable. I mean, to borrow from Arnold Schwarzenegger

489
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Speaker 1: and the Predator movie, if it bleeds, we can kill it, right.

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Speaker 1: It's one of his better better lines than what is

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Speaker 1: I think arguably the arguably the five one of the

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Speaker 1: five greatest action movies of all time, if not number one.

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Speaker 1: If it bleeds, we can kill a human beings bleed,

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Speaker 1: so we know that we can take out any human

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Speaker 1: enemy if we just have the skill, the grit, the determination.

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Speaker 1: Viruses don't bleed now they can die, but we can't

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Speaker 1: go really and steek them out to eradicate them. We

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Speaker 1: are playing defense. We are on defense inherently when we're

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Speaker 1: dealing with a viral pandemic like this, and that feels bad,

500
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Speaker 1: that feels even more uneasy in a lot of ways.

501
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Speaker 1: There's not going to be any revenge here. There's not

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Speaker 1: going to be any justice. No one's ever gonna, you know,

503
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Speaker 1: kick in Vin Laden's front door and shoot him in

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Speaker 1: the face because he gave us a virus, right, I

505
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Speaker 1: mean this is there's never gonna Yeah. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: talk about the situation with China, which is complicated and

507
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Speaker 1: really bad, but there's no one person you're gonna be

508
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Speaker 1: able to point to and say is responsible for this,

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Speaker 1: And even trying to hold one nation state responsible will

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Speaker 1: be a very difficult thing. And what would that even

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Speaker 1: mean because it's really the regime, it's the Chinese Communist

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Speaker 1: Party that you would blame for this. It's not the

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Speaker 1: people of China, and we have the same issue with Iran.

514
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Speaker 1: It's the Iranian regime that is our enemy. Or Ron's

515
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Speaker 1: dealing with a terrible outbreak there. It's not the Iranian

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Speaker 1: people that are our enemy. So we are at this

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Speaker 1: point in time when we just have to do everything

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Speaker 1: that we can make, all the preparations possible. You know,

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Speaker 1: for those of you that are fans of the Lord

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Speaker 1: of the Rings trilogy, this is the viral pandemic equivalent

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Speaker 1: of Helm's Deep and we are just trying to put

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Speaker 1: a sword in everybody's hand who can swing one, and

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Speaker 1: hunker down and get ready for it, because that's what

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Speaker 1: it's about to hit us. It's about to hit us

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Speaker 1: really hard. Those even that are still skeptics, I think

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Speaker 1: there are very few of them now, but there are

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Speaker 1: some who listen to this who I know are still

528
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Speaker 1: skeptical of how serious this is going to be. We

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Speaker 1: can sacrifice two weeks of economic activity and all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: We can sacrifice two weeks in order to find out

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Speaker 1: if the projections of the experts are right. We can't

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Speaker 1: take a gamble and assume the experts are wrong and

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Speaker 1: let this thing go on without these measures for another

534
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Speaker 1: two to three weeks. That's the truth. That's where we are.

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Speaker 1: One of them we can cover from the other one

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Speaker 1: is catastrophic. And thinking about what a great day it

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Speaker 1: would be if I have to sit here, and I

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Speaker 1: mean I'll be laughing and slapping high fives a producer

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Speaker 1: Mark and Man, they were crazy, they were so they

540
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Speaker 1: were way off, you know, Samson Nite. They were way off.

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Speaker 1: But I think that's a one percent chance at this point.

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Speaker 1: I could be wrong, but I haven't seen a single

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Speaker 1: expert make a case that we're not about to see

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Speaker 1: a big surge. Now, there are some variables. I want

545
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Speaker 1: to give you some positive notes here, because I know

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Speaker 1: on the Drudge Report there's this get ready for eighteen

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Speaker 1: months of social distancing story. I saw that too. I

548
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Speaker 1: read the whole thing. I'm reading all I'm reading the

549
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Speaker 1: catastrophists and I'm reading the slightly less catastrophists, because that's

550
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: really all there is these days, versions of events. But

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Speaker 1: I want to give you some of the up some

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Speaker 1: of the possible positives here and some of the upside,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll talk a bit about also the generational issue.

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Speaker 1: In fact, maybe i'll do the generational issue first, because

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Speaker 1: that's going to play a very large role in how

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Speaker 1: the fight against Wuhan virus. And then we'll get into

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Speaker 1: the situation with China, how we even got here. And

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Speaker 1: I think this is going to play into the long

559
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Speaker 1: term relationship between US and China in very troubling ways.

560
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Speaker 1: If this is as bad as some people are anticipating,

561
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Speaker 1: there's going to be a backlash against China and the

562
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Speaker 1: Chinese government from the whole world, but from America in particular,

563
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Speaker 1: because they are responsible for this situation in many ways.

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Speaker 1: You're in the freedom Huh. This is the Buck Sexton

565
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: Show podcast. Now we're going to find out if everything

566
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: has a risk, We're going to see but if people

567
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: do what we're telling them to do, what we're asking

568
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Speaker 1: them to do, you're going to see the saving of

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Speaker 1: a lot of lives. Now, boris in UK yesterday you

570
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Speaker 1: so what happened. It looked like they were going to

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Speaker 1: get a different way, but that he went a way

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Speaker 1: of similar. I guess similar. I don't know exactly, but

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Speaker 1: I would say we had a conversation yesterday similar to

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Speaker 1: what we're doing. So a lot of people seem to

575
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Speaker 1: think this is going to be a we are looking

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Speaker 1: to save the maximum number of lives. Everything else is

577
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Speaker 1: going to come back. A life is another going to

578
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Speaker 1: come back, but everything else, our economy is going to

579
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Speaker 1: come roaring back. You're gonna know, We're gonna know, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna all know that day. Somebody was asking about the day,

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Speaker 1: when will you know? When will you know? We're gonna

582
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Speaker 1: know all of a sudden, we're gonna say, Wow, that's

583
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Speaker 1: looking good. That's looking good, that's looking good, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to be on the other side of the curve.

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Speaker 1: And that's the day that we look forward to. He's right,

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Speaker 1: the day will come. But right now, it's all about

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Speaker 1: life preservation. And life preservation means focusing on protecting, but

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Speaker 1: also increasingly it will be focusing on treating the more

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Speaker 1: vulnerable members of our population, particularly the over seventy age group.

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Speaker 1: Over sixty is in higher risk. Over seventies and very

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Speaker 1: high risk. I think the Italian data shows that if

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Speaker 1: somebody is over ninety then have a about almost a

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Speaker 1: twenty percent chance of dying if they get this, which

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Speaker 1: is which is very that's very high. Right. It means

595
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Speaker 1: if you have five people in their night, you can

596
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Speaker 1: do the math. Obviously that's scary. So there are a

597
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Speaker 1: lot of people who are deeply concerned about this, and

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Speaker 1: at this moment in time, particularly if you have anybody

599
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Speaker 1: in your life that's vulnerable, you understand what the what

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Speaker 1: the risks are, and what's going to add. And you've

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Speaker 1: you've heard this from the president himself. I mean, he's

602
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Speaker 1: he's concerned about this, he's worried. So those who think

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Speaker 1: that this is some media plot to destroy Trumper, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's by the way overblown by the people

605
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Speaker 1: people that do want to destroy Trump. But they're saying

606
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Speaker 1: there's this consensus of people on the right who think

607
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Speaker 1: that this was all a hoax, that's all been a lie.

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Speaker 1: No one's thought that. We're just trying to make good

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Speaker 1: decisions as we go through it. But here here's what

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Speaker 1: the president himself. If you think, because I did get

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Speaker 1: a lot of I got a lot of messages last week, Buck,

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Speaker 1: I think you're drinking the kool aid. Buck, I think

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Speaker 1: you're too worried about this. Well, here's what the President

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Speaker 1: of the United States, who doesn't back down to anybody

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Speaker 1: and is not scared of anything. Here's what he's saying

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Speaker 1: about this play fifteen. Last night, the FDA announced groundbreaking

617
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Speaker 1: new policies to further increase testing were very substantially so

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Speaker 1: all states can now authorize tests developed and used within

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Speaker 1: their borders in addition to the FDA. So the states

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Speaker 1: are very much involved. They have been involved from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: but we're stepping it up as much as we can,

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Speaker 1: and the testing procedures are going well and within a

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Speaker 1: short period of time, all of the private labs who

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Speaker 1: will kick in. This's never been done before. Okay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I actually call for the wrong clip. That's not a producer, Mark.

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Speaker 1: I meant Mark fourteen on what he's asking everybody to do,

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Speaker 1: but that was important on the testing too. Our guidance

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Speaker 1: yesterday urges Americans to take action for fifteen days to

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Speaker 1: help stem the outbreak. So it's a fifteen day period,

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Speaker 1: I guess, so now would say it's the fourteen day

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Speaker 1: f fifteen days from yesterday, and we're asking everyone to

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Speaker 1: work at home if possible, postpone unnecessary travel, and limit

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Speaker 1: social gatherings, to know more than ten people. By making

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Speaker 1: shared sacrifices and temporary changes, we can protect the health

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Speaker 1: of our people and we can protect our economy, because

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Speaker 1: I think our economy will come back very rapidly. So

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Speaker 1: it's fifteen days from yesterday. We'll see what happens after that.

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Speaker 1: If we do this right, our country and the world frankly,

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Speaker 1: but our country can be rolling again pretty quickly, pretty quickly.

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Speaker 1: We need some optimism from the commander in chief, which

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Speaker 1: is good, but you're hearing it from the man himself.

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Speaker 1: This is go time right now. Everybody, Thanks for listening

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Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: The millennials are incredibly good about getting information out in

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Speaker 1: a clear way, but more importantly, they are incredibly good

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Speaker 1: about understanding how to protect one another, how to protect

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Speaker 1: their parents, and how to protect their grandparents. Right now,

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Speaker 1: we need the army of millennials out there doing everything

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Speaker 1: that they can to protect themselves from getting infected because

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Speaker 1: we know a lot of their cases will be mild

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Speaker 1: or asymptomatic, and making sure that they're doing every single

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Speaker 1: precaution to protect their parents and grandparents. So that was

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Speaker 1: the Coronavirus Response Coordinator doctor Deborah Berks, who's saying, look,

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Speaker 1: we need to make sure that the young people don't

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Speaker 1: think that, because this is less likely to have serious

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Speaker 1: impact on them, that they should just ignore the quarantine orders,

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Speaker 1: ignore all of the massive steps that we're going through

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Speaker 1: right now. I mean, there's all this photo and video evidence.

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Speaker 1: Not that they're making a criminal case here, but there's

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Speaker 1: all this stuff out there from Clearwater, Florida, other spring

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Speaker 1: break hotspots in Florida in particular, where people are just

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Speaker 1: deciding that they're gonna go and party and they don't

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Speaker 1: really care, and that's the way it's going to be.

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Speaker 1: So there's this big focus right now on younger people,

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Speaker 1: people in their twenties, people in their thirty You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of right in the in between zone, almost forty,

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Speaker 1: so not really on the young side, I'm not really

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Speaker 1: on the high risk side. I'm sort of somewhere else

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Speaker 1: in the middle. So I feel like I'm a fair

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Speaker 1: a fair arbiter in this process of what's what's right

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Speaker 1: and what's not. Here's the Surgeon General also directing his

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Speaker 1: attention to millennials and the need to have them play

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Speaker 1: one A question I often get asked is why should

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Speaker 1: young people care about the spread of coronavirus. Well, we

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Speaker 1: know that people with underlying medical conditions over the age

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Speaker 1: of sixty are at highest risk. But they've got to

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Speaker 1: get it from somebody. And it's why during our fifteen

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Speaker 1: days to slow the spread initiative, we're encouraging young people

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Speaker 1: to avoid large gatherings of ten people or more because

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Speaker 1: we know that if you get coronavirus, you're at for

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Speaker 1: spreading it to someone else. All right, let's see if

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Speaker 1: they will abide by that, certainly for fifteen for fifteen days,

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Speaker 1: it seems like a completely fair and realistic request. What

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Speaker 1: happens if the reports you're seeing that this social distancing

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Speaker 1: is supposed to continue to take place well into the fall,

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Speaker 1: well into next year. What of twelve months from now?

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Speaker 1: The government is still I don't think this will happen.

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Speaker 1: But let's just talk about it for a second, because

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Speaker 1: there are experts who are saying, bare, here's the funamount

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Speaker 1: of problem, folks. Let's say let's say we have perfect lockdown,

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Speaker 1: which we don't, but we have perfect lockdown and we

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Speaker 1: see the number of cases, the number of fatalities start

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Speaker 1: to go down. Let's say it goes down into the hundreds,

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Speaker 1: which would be a miracle. But let's say it does that.

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Speaker 1: In this country, active cases testing is everywhere. All right,

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Speaker 1: Now we go back to normal life, Boom, all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you could have another massive outbreak of this

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Speaker 1: disease here in this country. And so that's why we're

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Speaker 1: going to be dealing with moderated I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: modifications to these measures that are put in place right now,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to be able to deal with. You know,

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Speaker 1: we're not going to have like victory day here anytime soon.

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Speaker 1: Millennials are going to get tired of this. They're gonna say, so,

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Speaker 1: I don't get to have a wedding, I don't get

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Speaker 1: to go outside, I don't get to live my life,

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Speaker 1: I don't get to work. Because the older generation feels

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Speaker 1: like they're at higher risk. I'm just saying this is

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Speaker 1: this is a risk that people are This tension is

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Speaker 1: already being written about Wall Street Journal an editorial about

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Speaker 1: it today. We're going to get to that point and

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Speaker 1: eventually that's why there there's limited time here. There's limited

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Speaker 1: time for the economy, and there's also limited time for compliance.

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Speaker 1: People who are saying we're going to do this for

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Speaker 1: a year. No, we're not. You know why, people that

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Speaker 1: are at relatively low risk, you've got three maybe six

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Speaker 1: months to really get this thing under control before they're

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Speaker 1: just gonna start saying, you know, tough, what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna send the cops? You're gonna rest everybody under thirty.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be get It's gonna get bad. So

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Speaker 1: keep that in mind. That's why there's this desire, I think,

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Speaker 1: to go specifically to millennials and try to get them

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Speaker 1: to take a different approach here than some of them

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Speaker 1: are where they're just saying and there's this videos of

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Speaker 1: like the girl who's licking the toilet seed, and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of really stupid stuff going on around there.

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Speaker 1: There's all these guys who are on spring break who

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Speaker 1: you know, look, I get it, they're nineteen or twenty,

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Speaker 1: but they're like, I mean, I'm not like in the

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Speaker 1: high risk category, and like all my friends are here,

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Speaker 1: and so I just want to like party this, you know,

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Speaker 1: spring break, and I don't really care. And I mean

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Speaker 1: I understand, I mean I wish that everybody would just

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Speaker 1: go along with the plan here for a week or two.

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Speaker 1: But and I know those of you that live off

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Speaker 1: the grid or have been preparing for years and years,

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Speaker 1: and you've got plenty of food, your own supply, fresh water,

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Speaker 1: not don't have a lot of neighbors around you, aren't

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Speaker 1: relying on state services. Congratulations. The reality that you were

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Speaker 1: warning all the rest of us about, especially as I

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Speaker 1: sit here and I am surrounded by skyscrapers in Manhattan.

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Speaker 1: The reality is the reality that you've been warning about

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Speaker 1: is actually coming upon us right now. So I know

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Speaker 1: people mocked, people made so many jokes. And I was

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Speaker 1: part of preparedness campaigns when I was at the Blaze,

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Speaker 1: some of our very excellent sponsors telling people just get ready,

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Speaker 1: get ready for a situation just like this, and now

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Speaker 1: we're in it. So I can't help but think about

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Speaker 1: that for a moment, that there was so much Oh,

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Speaker 1: the live media love to ooh people that they love

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Speaker 1: to poke fun at anybody that believes in personal preparedness.

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Speaker 1: And they're not laughing now, that's for sure. I did

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Speaker 1: have you a play that testing the clip about Donald

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Speaker 1: Trump saying that there's testing that's going to bringing in

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Speaker 1: private labs. That's a big that's a game changer. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they should have gone with that as quickly as possible.

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Speaker 1: The CDC mistakes right now, we all know the CDC

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Speaker 1: messed up with the testing, and initially it got so

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Speaker 1: much attention because they thought they could blame Trump for it.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, if Trump's telling the head of the CDC,

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Speaker 1: all right, let's get that test out, guys, and the

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Speaker 1: CDC makes a faulty test, is Donald Trump's supposed to

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Speaker 1: design a test? You know what's really fair to ask?

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Speaker 1: What's really the reality of that situation. So I look

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Speaker 1: at this now and I said, oh, there's also the

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Speaker 1: Defense Production Act that has been invoked, which is a

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Speaker 1: made this just got this just broke today. This means

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Speaker 1: that the federal government will be able to say, all right,

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Speaker 1: we want masks, we want whatever it is that need

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Speaker 1: to be, you know, ventilators. They're gonna able to fulfill

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Speaker 1: those contracts. And it's going to be something that the

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Speaker 1: government now can essentially just write checks to get stuff

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Speaker 1: done and probably set up their own facilities. This is

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Speaker 1: like you know, Ford Motor Company switching from making model

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Speaker 1: teams or whatever. I don't know what they were making,

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Speaker 1: but you know that's a Ford car from back in

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Speaker 1: the day. Switch from making sedans to making bomber planes.

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Speaker 1: That's what this will allow for. This is the federal

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Speaker 1: government now getting in a position to ramp up and

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Speaker 1: do its own production effectively be the is state. This

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Speaker 1: is state capitalism now on this issue, on this one sector.

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Speaker 1: This is state controlled capitalism at work, which is a

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Speaker 1: good thing. Leveraging the private sector, having the federal government

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Speaker 1: writing the checks for it. This needs to happen right now.

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Speaker 1: This is a temporary measure. All the people, and I

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Speaker 1: know there's a lot out there right now who are

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Speaker 1: saying the universal basic income has won, because now even

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Speaker 1: Republicans are saying no, this is an emerging see measure.

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Speaker 1: It's like the things that we did, the things that

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Speaker 1: we said after nine to eleven, and the things that

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Speaker 1: we did as a country were not I mean, in

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Speaker 1: some cases they ended up extending longer, but they were

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Speaker 1: not supposed to be all permanent measures. In extreme circumstances,

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Speaker 1: there are certain things that the government needs to do

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Speaker 1: that it would not be appropriate or wise for it

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Speaker 1: to do under normal circumstances. We are in as much

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Speaker 1: of an extreme as you will find when it comes

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Speaker 1: to a pandemic. We have faced nothing really like this

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Speaker 1: since nineteen eighteen, and that's where we are, so we

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Speaker 1: might as well understand that and accept it and make

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Speaker 1: the best of the situation we can right now. And

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm hoping that these next couple of weeks

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Speaker 1: we show a real, really impressive national resolve our first

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Speaker 1: line responders, our medical community, also the people that are

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Speaker 1: delivering food in our food chain. I mean, if you

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Speaker 1: want to see true hysteria that will come if we

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Speaker 1: have disruptions to our food supply, if the Internet goes down,

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Speaker 1: electricity goes off, people. You know, I don't think we're

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Speaker 1: heading for any of that, by the way, I really don't.

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Speaker 1: But the people that are making sure we don't head there,

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Speaker 1: they deserve our eternal thanks and gratitude. And you know,

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Speaker 1: it's a real reminder that you know that person who's

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Speaker 1: who's bagging groceries for you these days, But but any day,

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Speaker 1: they're doing something that's necessary, they're doing something that helps society,

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Speaker 1: and right now they're doing it at personal risk. This

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Speaker 1: is why I was saying yesterday and I did last night.

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Speaker 1: I ordered in some food. I'm trying to get in

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Speaker 1: some orders from restaurants that I think might close soon,

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Speaker 1: but haven't closed yet. And I'm just I'm tipping everybody

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Speaker 1: double what I'm I'm a pretty good tipper. I believe

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Speaker 1: in tipping. Woe. I'm a double everyone who delivers. Whatever

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Speaker 1: my usual delivery thing was in the past, double every time.

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Speaker 1: Now it's a little thing. And maybe it's a gesture.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just see. I wouldn't say it's not virtue signaling,

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Speaker 1: because it's actually virtuous. It's the right thing to do,

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Speaker 1: and I want other people to do it too, if

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Speaker 1: you can, if you can afford it, if you live

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Speaker 1: in a place where there's a lot of food delivery,

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Speaker 1: or if you're trying to do everything you can to

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Speaker 1: make sure that this continues on as is so well,

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Speaker 1: continues on, and they'll at least be some ability for

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Speaker 1: the restaurant community to bounce back the economic catastrophe that's

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Speaker 1: unfolding right now. If we didn't have a disease that

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Speaker 1: was threatened to kill large numbers of our fellow Americans,

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Speaker 1: the economic calamity would keep us up late at night.

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Speaker 1: So look, this government has its hands full. We have

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Speaker 1: not faced anything like this in my lifetime. But I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you about the China situation, of

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Speaker 1: the Chinese role in all of this too. We'll get

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Speaker 1: to that. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show podcast putting out information which was false

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Speaker 1: that our military gave us, and then that was false.

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Speaker 1: And rather than having an argument, I said our phrase, No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. No. I think saying that our

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Speaker 1: military gave it to them, I think that that's pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 1: And I praised Donald Trump for standing his ground there

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Speaker 1: as the leader of this government in this country when

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Speaker 1: the press seems to just want to play along with

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Speaker 1: Chinese government propaganda our press. David Harsani joins us now.

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Speaker 1: He's been writing about this. He's senior writer at National Review. David,

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Speaker 1: thanks again, always, thank you. Um, what the heck is

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Speaker 1: going on here? Why are we hearing all of this

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00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: Chinese propaganda, all these Chinese government talking points from our press.

855
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: They can't be I actually know. I can never say

856
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: that there are a lot of really dumb journalists, but

857
00:47:57,080 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: I'd like to think that they're not this dumb. But

858
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 1: it seems to me that if they're not so stupid

859
00:48:01,480 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: as to believe what China is putting out, then they're

860
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 1: almost rooting for Trump to get more blame than China.

861
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: What is going on here, I don't know. I mean,

862
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: I think part of it is obviously this ingrained necessity

863
00:48:16,840 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: to blame Donald Trump for everything that happens. It's destructive

864
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: and it's I think rendered the press in many ways,

865
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: you know, or many people in the press useless, useless

866
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: to us in any real way other than entertainment. And

867
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 1: that's that's a disaster in many ways, because these are

868
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 1: the times right now that we actually need good journalism

869
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: and we don't have it. So I think that that's

870
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,959
Speaker 1: one of the driving parts of it. I'm not sure

871
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,319
Speaker 1: about the other parts. I mean, I see people. I

872
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: mean I see people, and I don't want to go

873
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 1: through names that I see journalists and columnists, some of

874
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: them who have written literally written books about the evils

875
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: of communism, just repeating Chinese propaganda right now about how

876
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: I don't know. Somebody who wrote a book about the

877
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:10,080
Speaker 1: famine in Ukraine, who last name rhymes with apple soum. Yeah,

878
00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: I mean, fantastic, fantastic historians. She wrote a book on

879
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: the Gulag, you know, she wrote a book on the

880
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: Iron Curtain, and it's just um I just don't get

881
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: it and h but anyway, I don't have to get it.

882
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 1: All we have to get to is the truth, and

883
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: the truth is Yeah, well let's get into that. What

884
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 1: in China do here? Well, first of all, you know

885
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: a lot of these what's name I forget, zoonic diseases, stars,

886
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: this one, many many others actually you know come from

887
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: China because you know, it jumps from animals like bats

888
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: and snakes, and they're not always exactly sure, but it's

889
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: because there are these wet markets in China where you

890
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 1: have you know, animals that are you know, you know,

891
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 1: unsanitary places. You know, Yeah, you basically pick out your

892
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,680
Speaker 1: civid in a cage and it's like cramped, horrible conditions,

893
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 1: and other animals are you know, excreening on it from

894
00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: cages above it, and they're like, you know, lop off

895
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: its head or whatever, and they hand you some civid kebabs.

896
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 1: I mean that's I've seen video. This is what they

897
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Speaker 1: actually do. Yeah, it's it's not good. And you know,

898
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: I mentioned today in a column that I think you

899
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: know once you're I'm a big fan of free trade.

900
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 1: I think that China has lifted millions of people out

901
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: of poverty because they've allowed some free trading capitalism. And

902
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 1: that's all wonderful, but if you're going to join modernity,

903
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,200
Speaker 1: you have to do things like you have to stop

904
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 1: eating bats and possibly killing all of us with some

905
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 1: disease that jumps from you know, a bat, to to

906
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 1: to Saint Louis and to New York, etc. M you know.

907
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: And if the communist government they are spent as much

908
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 1: time educating its populous and trying to deal with these

909
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: kinds of issues as it does suppressing their speech, as

910
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:02,239
Speaker 1: it does with baganda, as it does with secrecy, we

911
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't have this trouble. And no one would be calling

912
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: a China virus because they would Chinese virus or what

913
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 1: it flew or whatever, because they wouldn't have to. I

914
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: don't like Chinese the term Chinese virus. I think it

915
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 1: should be called China the Chinese communist virus, or Chai

916
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,959
Speaker 1: con virus, something like that. It's not the Chinese people.

917
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: Chinese people in large part are victims just bad authoritarian governance.

918
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,240
Speaker 1: And so just as a reminder of everybody, the World

919
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: Health Organization, on January fourteenth of this year, put out

920
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:36,840
Speaker 1: the following tweet from their official account. Preliminary investigations conducted

921
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: by the Chinese authorities have found no clear evidence of

922
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: human to human transmission of the novel coronavirus identified in Wuhan, China.

923
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,200
Speaker 1: That had to be a lie. I mean, I know

924
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:50,920
Speaker 1: it was wrong, but they had to have known them.

925
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,359
Speaker 1: There's no way. Well, yeah, I mean we now know,

926
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: and we don't know everything because the Chinese government has

927
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 1: i think expelled a bunch of journalists and obviously always

928
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 1: as always being secretive, but the Chinese government stop doctors

929
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 1: from communicating about this. Initially made some or one doctor

930
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: or more doctors apologize for for for panicking. Now listen,

931
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: I don't think panic is a good thing. Obviously, you

932
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: don't want that. I think you know. Initially, I'm sure

933
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,200
Speaker 1: that it's it's a it's a confusing situation and you're

934
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 1: not sure what's going on. But once they already knew,

935
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: they were still allowing people from the Uan province to

936
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,799
Speaker 1: move freely in and out. I think they think the

937
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal said five million people were moving about.

938
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,839
Speaker 1: The Chinese did nothing about that. They were making still

939
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: making doctors apologize for for sharing information with other doctors

940
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,040
Speaker 1: and you know, creating worry about this, et cetera. You know,

941
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: it goes on and on, so U And now you know,

942
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: we're heaving numbers like China has done a good job

943
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,479
Speaker 1: in stopping it, and we're using their numbers and news

944
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 1: stories as if they're facts. There. We don't know. Chinese

945
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: lie about everything. We don't know what's going on in China. Yeah,

946
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 1: I mean, do you have any faith that they've really

947
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: been able to control this as much as they're saying

948
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 1: right now, it sounds like they're telling everybody, Oh, we're

949
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: we're pretty much going to be good here. Yeah, I don't.

950
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:09,240
Speaker 1: I don't know who to trust. I mean, it seems

951
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 1: to me that they have some control over it. The

952
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,760
Speaker 1: methods they use sometimes to get to get that control,

953
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm not you know, are you've seen some of the

954
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,919
Speaker 1: video of them dragging people away, soldering doors close, things

955
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: like that. I don't know what's going on there, And

956
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 1: maybe they have or maybe they haven't, but certainly we

957
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: should not trust what they have to tell us. And

958
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 1: you know, like I saw a Bloomberg story just now,

959
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: you know where Bloomberg says China Europe has now has

960
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 1: more cases than China Are you kidding me? You have

961
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: no idea I'm any cases they are in China. I mean,

962
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't trust what China is saying. You can't make

963
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,920
Speaker 1: definitive statements like that we were in particular, seems to

964
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 1: be a little too not just the guy, but the

965
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: it to me, the news organization always a little bit

966
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 1: too China friendly in you. Let's be honest. I mean again,

967
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 1: I am a huge free trade guy. You want to

968
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 1: bring Chinese money here, I'm all for it, But you

969
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: have news organizations I'll say the Atlantic. Wait, David, can

970
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: you hope for one second? I want to come back

971
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Speaker 1: and the guys stay with you one second. We'll continue

972
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:12,360
Speaker 1: this conversation with David Harsania on China. Thanks for listening

973
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 1: to the bus seton show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on

974
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app, or wherever you get your podcasts.

975
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:24,760
Speaker 1: All right, So we're talking to David Harsani about China's

976
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 1: role on all this, and we're talking about the media,

977
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:30,879
Speaker 1: the coverage of this, the strange affinity that our own

978
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,760
Speaker 1: national news media seems to have for Chinese Communist Party

979
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,200
Speaker 1: talking points through state media. What were you saying, David,

980
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,600
Speaker 1: right before we took a pause there on the role

981
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: that China plays in our media, and you were about

982
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,919
Speaker 1: to talk about the Atlanticum, let's show the Atlantic for now.

983
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,800
Speaker 1: I think the Atlantic has been terrible on this, but

984
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: let's show that for now, because I don't really know

985
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 1: exactly how they get their money, but there are a

986
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: lot of organizations in this country that have a Chinese

987
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:57,240
Speaker 1: money and Chinese investors behind them as well as others,

988
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: and they're probably worried about insulting certain people, and we

989
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: can't really have good transparency. Are a good debate about

990
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 1: this as long as that happens, I don't. I don't

991
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 1: know that that's the fact in every case, but I

992
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 1: think that that might have something to do with the

993
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,719
Speaker 1: way certain people are talking about China. I mean, I

994
00:55:15,719 --> 00:55:17,839
Speaker 1: know for a fact that you know, behind closed doors,

995
00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: I've been told stories about back when the Saudis were

996
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,280
Speaker 1: considerably more powerful, when oil was you know, one hundred

997
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: dollars plus a barrel. The Saudis would tell you they

998
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: were investors in different news organizations. And if the Saudi

999
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: royal family said lay off the whole Wahabism is our

1000
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:39,439
Speaker 1: main export, not oil, Guess what people did it. Yeah, well,

1001
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:41,520
Speaker 1: it's not surprising a Chinese would have the same kind

1002
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 1: of sway and some of these news organizations, right, And

1003
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, it's weird because and I want to stress

1004
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: because I'm sure there are some racists out there who

1005
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 1: now you know, are you know, say stupid things about

1006
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: Chinese Americans, et cetera. But there's always stupid racist saying

1007
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,720
Speaker 1: stupid things about everything. So I mean, right, we can't

1008
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: we can't hear all our talk about China simply because

1009
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 1: there are a few idiots out there. They're gonna be

1010
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,919
Speaker 1: idiots no matter what you do. But the Chinese people

1011
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 1: themselves are incredibly successful. Right. You think about Taiwan, or

1012
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,600
Speaker 1: you think about Singapore, or you think about Malaysia, even

1013
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 1: where there are many Chinese people were here in America.

1014
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,960
Speaker 1: It's not the Chinese people that's that's the problem. It's

1015
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:22,280
Speaker 1: it's think about Hong Kong, where and what the Chinese

1016
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,440
Speaker 1: people are capable of. If they were be allowed to

1017
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: do those things, they wouldn't We wouldn't have to worry

1018
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: about them in that way. It's the communist government in

1019
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,480
Speaker 1: China that's now the problem. And I think it's important

1020
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:34,239
Speaker 1: to make sure that we talk about it, and some

1021
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 1: people in this country don't want to talk about communism

1022
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: in that way. Now, of course, the Chinese government there

1023
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,360
Speaker 1: is not exactly purist, you know about their beliefs, but

1024
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: it's still an authoritarian place that acts in ways that

1025
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 1: to me are inexplicable. Sometimes I don't even understand why

1026
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: they do the things they do when they could become

1027
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: just an immense powerhouse in this world in a good way.

1028
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,560
Speaker 1: So it's, you know, it's something we were going to

1029
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: have to talk about even after this is over. I

1030
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: also think that we're going to see some of the

1031
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: cultural differences at play and dealing with this and in

1032
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: a sense, and this is I'm sure that there are

1033
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: some socio you know, socioeconomic or sociological studies to this,

1034
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: but I do get the sense that the Chinese people

1035
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: overall are less likely to revolt against government dictates an

1036
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: action than Americans are. I don't think we've got that

1037
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:29,360
Speaker 1: long here, David. Before people just start saying, I don't

1038
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: care what risks put some people in I've got to

1039
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: live my life. Do you think that we're going to

1040
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: hit that in a few months. Do you think that

1041
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: we've got a year. Sure you're saying, yeah, I think

1042
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: that Americans are not going to be inclined to stay

1043
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: in their homes, yes, you know for six months, right, yeah, yeah,

1044
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean at some point does people make that determ

1045
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: and the no matter what the government says. I mean,

1046
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:51,600
Speaker 1: you know, we're only going to be able to right now.

1047
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: The cops are kind of showing up that they see

1048
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 1: people doing the big gatherings. I think there was a

1049
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:56,680
Speaker 1: wedding in Brooklyn. They showed up. They're like, a right, everybody,

1050
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,480
Speaker 1: come on, you know, we get it, like you're not

1051
00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 1: bad people, but like, we can't do this right now.

1052
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: Eventually America. I mean in China, it seems like there's

1053
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, no one's telling the authorities at least that

1054
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: we see. I mean that's obviously we don't really see

1055
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: a lot that goes on there, but we're not seeing

1056
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: anybody saying no, sorry, like Chinese secret police or whatever,

1057
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: like you don't get to tell us what to do.

1058
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: And that's going to happen here. We don't. Americans are

1059
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: going to say, look if we lose four or five percent.

1060
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: I mean, this is crazy to think about, but I

1061
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: do think it's reality. In six or eight months. If

1062
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Speaker 1: the economy is in a depression and we're told to

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Speaker 1: stay in our homes, Americans are going to say, if

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Speaker 1: we lose four or five percent of us, like, that's

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Speaker 1: just the way this is going to be. We have

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Speaker 1: to go forward. Yeah, I absolutely think at some point

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Speaker 1: people make a cause, you know, cost benefit analysis in

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Speaker 1: their heads, you know, whom lives lost, things like that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we do that anyway quite often. You know,

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Speaker 1: we think, think about driving, right, you lose I forget

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Speaker 1: what it is, forty thousand people a year in accidents.

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Speaker 1: We still drive. We don't have five mile per hour

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Speaker 1: speed limits. I think people can get used to any

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Speaker 1: kind anything, right, and then they go on with their

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Speaker 1: lives in some way, especially people who are younger and

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00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 1: feel like they're safe. You see that now. I mean

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Speaker 1: there are the pictures of the beaches on Florida packed.

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Speaker 1: You know, I went out here. I live in a Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I also noticed that. You know, some people are blaming,

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00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: like Fox and conservatives aren't taking it seriously. But I'm

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00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: in a super liberal place that went out, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: and tons of people are out. They don't seem very

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00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:20,640
Speaker 1: nervous about it. They're in the supermarket. There's no social

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00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:25,280
Speaker 1: distancing that I could tell. And so I wonder if

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00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: if some people have already made that determination. A lot

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00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: of people, right, and I think that in time, you

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00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: know that that's only going to be a more difficult fight.

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00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 1: What is the what are the biggest moves that you

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00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: think the government through right now on the economic side

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Speaker 1: that will be helpful. It's difficult for me to say that,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, obviously this is You're supposed to

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Speaker 1: have all the answers. That's why I bring we bring

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Speaker 1: you on the show, Come on, give something. I know,

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Speaker 1: I know I noticed that people seem to think they

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00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 1: have to have answers for everything. But I'm not one

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Speaker 1: of those people. I do not have a good answer

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Speaker 1: for that. Obviously. I would say this when you had

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Speaker 1: the you know, the recession to thousand and seven and eight,

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Speaker 1: it was a very different situation because a lot of

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Speaker 1: companies did the wrong thing and a lot of people

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01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,600
Speaker 1: did the wrong thing, and those you know, there's something

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Speaker 1: wrong with the economy, and you know it needed certain

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01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: things needed to happen. Certain people need to go out

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Speaker 1: of business. This is some existential threat that is no

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Speaker 1: one's fault. It's not like the airline companies did something

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01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: to deserve this, or anyone did something to deserve this.

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Speaker 1: So it's a different situation, and bailouts are a different situation,

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Speaker 1: and sending money to people's a different situation. I wonder

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Speaker 1: how much of an effect that's going to have, really though,

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Speaker 1: If this it drags out for a few months, I

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01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:37,360
Speaker 1: don't know that you can save industries that just basically

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01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,959
Speaker 1: have to shut down for three, four months, five six months.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how to come back from that

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Speaker 1: very quickly. Yeah, I also wonder, you know, we've been

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Speaker 1: talking for a long time about how large the national

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Speaker 1: debt is. I mean, if we're going to start just

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Speaker 1: adding a trillion here, a trillion there, a trillion here,

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Speaker 1: a trillion there, with an economy that's effectively on pause,

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Speaker 1: and that's a gentle way of saying it, do people

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Speaker 1: we are to get closer to that. I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to add to the hysteria that's out there right now,

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Speaker 1: but do people start to get closer to that point

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Speaker 1: where they say, you know, maybe the dollar isn't the

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Speaker 1: reserve currency anymore, maybe there is a huge run on

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Speaker 1: gold or treasury bonds, all of a sudden, you know,

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Speaker 1: aren't the safe haven? I mean, can you are you

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Speaker 1: worried about that? Or you think that's too far? I'm worried. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm worried about that. I'm worried about that. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we don't really know yet what we

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Speaker 1: have in some sense. I think it's bad obviously, no

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Speaker 1: matter how you look at it. But I do wonder

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Speaker 1: how how it's going to look. I don't ever want

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Speaker 1: to diminish this or it's not. It's scary and all that,

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Speaker 1: But when you look at like some of the countries

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Speaker 1: that have flattened their curves, you know, and dealt with it,

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Speaker 1: you know what we can't. We don't know the bad

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Speaker 1: that can come, but we also don't know the good

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: that can come. How fast do we get to a vaccine?

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Speaker 1: Maybe there is a way to admitigate the effects of

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Speaker 1: this thing? Is Yeah, can I talk about the most

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01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 1: positive for it? Because I feel like I'm like depressing

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Speaker 1: myself today on the show because all all the headlines

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Speaker 1: this are so bad. The stock market's like and below

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Speaker 1: twenty thousand on the Dow. I mean, this is this

1145
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: is rough stuff. What's what's the Harsani, we're all going

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01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 1: to be okay. Scenario not scenario, but what's your best

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01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,120
Speaker 1: case to make that we're all going to be okay?

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Speaker 1: I just go quickly. I want to say. I read

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Speaker 1: some thread yesterday that was just horrifying, right, So I'm

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01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 1: in bed reading it on my phone and I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, we're definitely all going to die. It's

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01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: the worst thing. And then I turn to the next

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01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: thing I read and it was like much more positive.

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01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's going to be okay. And I'm on

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Speaker 1: this roller coaster now for weeks. It's like we're all

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Speaker 1: going to die. We're all going to be okay. My

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Speaker 1: view is that you know that we as humans, and

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Speaker 1: we especially as Americans, learn quickly how to deal with

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Speaker 1: these things. We have a kind of massive economic strength

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Speaker 1: and the type of people and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: sound idealistic, but I actually believe this to be true,

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Speaker 1: that we'll quickly figure out ways to mitigate this thing,

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Speaker 1: and that, you know, my my rosy scenario is that

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Speaker 1: we're going to get over it because we will, because

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Speaker 1: we have to, and that because there was no I mean,

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Speaker 1: it depends how long ago is. Obviously, but because there's

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Speaker 1: no reason for the economy to be in bad shape

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Speaker 1: other than this thing. Very quickly, people will rebound and

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Speaker 1: come up with what you know that the economy will

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Speaker 1: start growing and people will you know, bouncing back, I mean,

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Speaker 1: and people will will be much you know, will it

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Speaker 1: will sort be a way to spark the economy and hopefully,

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Speaker 1: you know, things rebound rather quickly. I think we might

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Speaker 1: be in a situation where the very in recent years

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Speaker 1: vilified pharmaceutical sector might be People keep talking with the

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Speaker 1: vaccine vaccine. You can't rush it because if you rush it,

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Speaker 1: you might end up killing everybody you give the vaccine too.

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Speaker 1: So there's no there is no rushing it, right, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're doing it as fast as they can without tak Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're right. And and by the way, for those who

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Speaker 1: are saying, oh, well it's just worth the risk, well

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Speaker 1: you could actually start creating strains of effectively supervirus too.

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Speaker 1: Like there's actual risk that if you give people the

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Speaker 1: wrong vaccine, then that disease will not only take hold

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Speaker 1: in that person, but also might mutate with in them.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, there's real because you can't really I've

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Speaker 1: been reading about vaccine stuff NonStop in recent days. But

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Speaker 1: therapeutics meaning keeping people's lungs from effectively, you know, drowning

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Speaker 1: from the inside out from this disease. I think Gilead

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Speaker 1: Pharmaceuticals has something that's already been used for other other

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Speaker 1: viruses or testing that if we get a therapeutic that

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Speaker 1: just prevents people for having to worry about hospitalization and dying,

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Speaker 1: which would effectively make this like the flu um Well,

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Speaker 1: I know the flu kills people too, but it would

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Speaker 1: make it, you know, a lesser extreme on the virus spectrum.

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Speaker 1: Pharmaceutical company might be in a position to kind of

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Speaker 1: save the world and maybe civilization. Dad, Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean they do that all the time with other diseases

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Speaker 1: as well. I mean, you know, we basically, you know,

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Speaker 1: ease is no longer a death sentence, et cetera. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that people understand. You know, there's a

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Speaker 1: vilification of pharmaceutical companies and their profit monitoring. Without the

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Speaker 1: profit motive, you're not getting any of this stuff. So

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. You know, I'm not saying that pharmaceutical company

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01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,200
Speaker 1: is always you know, acting your best interest. A lot

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Speaker 1: of rent seeking, a lot of stuff like that. But overall,

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Speaker 1: of course they're they're amazing, and yeah, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of talk and I don't know specifics, so

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Speaker 1: I don't get into it. But in South Korea that

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Speaker 1: they have found sort of a like a cocktail of

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Speaker 1: of of drugs that help mitigate mitigate, uh you know,

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Speaker 1: in fact, yeah, and that's so yeah, yeah, so therapeutic stuff.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think we're you know, I have faith

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna do those things

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Speaker 1: because we always do. Right, It's not the first time

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Speaker 1: we have to deal with the disease. So but right now,

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Speaker 1: I think it's important that people stay away from each

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Speaker 1: other so that we don't really overwhelm the system. I

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Speaker 1: think that's the main source of you know, uh, you

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Speaker 1: know that's the scariest thing because you know, the ventilators,

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Speaker 1: et cetera. So we might have to we might have

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Speaker 1: to like brand your segment, you know, weekly David Hope

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Speaker 1: from HARSANYI, you know, pretty I'm usually pretty optimistic, it's

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Speaker 1: in general, but when you don't know, you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is something outside the norm, right, you know, you

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Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen, and we have to

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Speaker 1: be really careful. I think at some point you're right,

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Speaker 1: you know, you can sink the economy to the extent

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Speaker 1: that you're in the depression, and then people aren't going

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Speaker 1: to want to do that who feel relatively safe, and

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Speaker 1: that's going to be a problem because you're going to

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Speaker 1: end up killing all your grandparents, etc. David Arsani, Everybody,

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Speaker 1: Senior writer, Nash Review. David, thanks so much as always, Man,

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Speaker 1: we'll talk to you soon. Thank you. You're in the

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Speaker 1: Freedom High. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. So

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Speaker 1: I wanted to tell you some interesting backstory on how

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Speaker 1: we got to the point where the Chinese, the Chinese

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Speaker 1: government was allowing for these these wet markets, and the

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Speaker 1: more you learn about them, the more just stunning the

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Speaker 1: whole situation is. And it stretches back to the nineteen seventies.

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Speaker 1: The Chinese Communist Party used to be used to be

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Speaker 1: in charge of all agriculture right and the result of

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Speaker 1: that was that there there was mass starvation and they

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Speaker 1: had ideas like the Four Pests campaign, which was taken

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Speaker 1: during the Great Leap Forward nineteen fifty eight to nineteen

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Speaker 1: sixty two, where they were trying to get rid of

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Speaker 1: all mosquitos, which I'm actually down for that, but turns

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Speaker 1: out mosquitoes are necessary sparrows, rats and flies, and they

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Speaker 1: you know, they thought that the sparrows were eating too

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Speaker 1: much grain, and so they're going to kill all the

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Speaker 1: sparrows and they'd have more food. But as a result

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Speaker 1: of that, the population of locusts got completely out of

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Speaker 1: control and swarmed the country and resulted in deforestation and

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Speaker 1: famine and just complete and utter calamity. Terrible ideas from

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Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party, things like that, the four Pests campaign,

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Speaker 1: and it's just a horrifically stupid idea. But the Chinese

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Speaker 1: Communist Party had lots of those. So they turned over

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Speaker 1: agriculture to private interests in the seventies, so allowed for

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Speaker 1: private farming. But then this was consolidated into some private industries,

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Speaker 1: probably people who were connections in the Communist Party effectively

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Speaker 1: gave them, you know, state sanctioned monopolies to produce food.

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Speaker 1: And so at the local level, the Chinese peasants started

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Speaker 1: raising exotic animals, not that exotic at first, things like turtles, snakes,

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Speaker 1: small reptiles. They actually were taking in wild animals and

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Speaker 1: then breeding them for food and creating their own little

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Speaker 1: cottage industry of exotic meat essentially. And then this grew

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Speaker 1: over time and it became culturally ingrained in some parts

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Speaker 1: of China, and you started to also have these markets

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Speaker 1: where they would bring all these animals that are not

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Speaker 1: to masticated, that have not been bred for this purpose.

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Speaker 1: They're incredibly unclean circumstances, and you can see photos and

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Speaker 1: videos of it. It's it's pretty grotesque, but you know,

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Speaker 1: they'll have just cages, the top cages, and there's just

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Speaker 1: i mean, there's a waste everywhere. And they also then

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Speaker 1: started bringing in truly exotic including endangered animals, and you'd

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Speaker 1: be able to go to some of these wet markets

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Speaker 1: and they would buy you could buy civets, which are

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Speaker 1: threatened species, tigers, you can buy all these really rare

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Speaker 1: animals at a premium for food in these markets because

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Speaker 1: it's easy to hide them among the shipping in of

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Speaker 1: all these different rare animals that nobody would and the

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Speaker 1: Chinese government kind of turned a blind eye to it

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Speaker 1: for a long time. I was like, okay, well, this

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Speaker 1: is just you know, a way that people are making

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Speaker 1: money and you know, not not really a big deal.

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Speaker 1: And then in the year I think it was the

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Speaker 1: early two thousands, they basically said, okay, well this is

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Speaker 1: now a natural resource of China, and so the government

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Speaker 1: sanctioned the continued trade in these exotic animals for food again,

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Speaker 1: and they would bring them in live. They're not even

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Speaker 1: bringing it's not like they're just trading. You have to remember,

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Speaker 1: they're not bringing meat to the market. They're bringing them

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Speaker 1: in live animals in cages. That's why they call it

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Speaker 1: a wet market, because they killed them right there. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this is Look, it's it's uncivilized stuff that's going on.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is not good and it has obviously

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Speaker 1: resulted in a any Look. I know people could talk

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Speaker 1: about American factory farming on it, but you know, we're

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Speaker 1: talking about domesticated animals that we all eat, and there's

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Speaker 1: a sense of you know, you know what diseases you're

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Speaker 1: working with in that animal population. Zooonotic transmission is so

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Speaker 1: much easier when you're bringing hundreds and hundreds of different

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Speaker 1: kinds of animals alive into cramped conditions and then having

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Speaker 1: people handle them and then eat them. So this is

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Speaker 1: this is China's The Chinese government is responsible for a

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Speaker 1: lot of what has gone wrong here and we will

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Speaker 1: not forget that. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson

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Speaker 1: Show podcasts. Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. Bernie Sanders suspends his campaign. Everybody,

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Speaker 1: you got some political news for you today, I know,

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01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 1: or take a little break from the gloom and doom

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01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 1: of the world is collapsing all around us. Bernie Sanders

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01:11:27,720 --> 01:11:32,840
Speaker 1: suspending it because he can't win. And we all know

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Speaker 1: that at this point Bernie Sanders not gonna be able

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Speaker 1: to make it happen. Cannot win. There's not going to

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Speaker 1: be some last minute but I don't even know is

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Speaker 1: there going to be a Democratic convention? Are people going

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Speaker 1: to show up to this thing? Is? You know, who

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Speaker 1: knows where we're gonna be with all of this? But

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Speaker 1: Sanders is quitting the race, and that then is I

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Speaker 1: think all that you need to know about where this

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Speaker 1: Democratic primary is going. It's gonna be Joe Biden. I

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Speaker 1: just it's so amazing to me that we were a

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Speaker 1: country of three hundred and twenty million people and the

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Speaker 1: Democrats have so many, you know, so many very wealthy,

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Speaker 1: very influential, not just politicians, but people who are who

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Speaker 1: are vocal Democrats, and the best thing they can come

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Speaker 1: up with is the least to manage, imaginative, the least inspiring,

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Speaker 1: and the least confidence building at a time when we

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Speaker 1: really need a lot of that in our leadership. I've

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Speaker 1: said this in the beginning, and I continue to say

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Speaker 1: it now. I am thankful that we have Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: handling this crisis and not Joe Biden. I'm not saying

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Speaker 1: that Joe Biden wouldn't want to. I think any politician

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Speaker 1: would do their best with this. I think I think

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Speaker 1: that Donald Trump honestly is more capable and is a

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Speaker 1: better executive than Joe Biden. Now I could be wrong,

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Speaker 1: but I'm pretty confident that I'm not. But yeah, Bernie

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Speaker 1: is out. After all the all the talk of how

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Speaker 1: you know, he was the candidate who's going to win

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Speaker 1: and he's going to be able to beat Trump, and

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Speaker 1: he about a month ago was almost inevitable, it seemed,

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Speaker 1: winning those early states, Biden having terrible showings. But in

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Speaker 1: the big Democrats strongholds, they really they they just want

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Speaker 1: a return to Obamaism. I think that's what it ultimately

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Speaker 1: comes down to. They want things to go back to

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Speaker 1: the way they used to be in their minds when

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama was in charge. And the closest thing that

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Speaker 1: they can have to that is Joe Biden as President

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Speaker 1: of the United States. Who's his VP going to be? Well,

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Speaker 1: that will certainly be interesting, won't it. Now A lot

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Speaker 1: I've been saying that Hillary would be an interesting choice

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Speaker 1: for him, and you got a figure that she'd have

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Speaker 1: a lot of But you know, maybe given the direction

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Speaker 1: of the country right now, they'll want someone younger. Maybe

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Speaker 1: they'll want someone to represent the the younger generation and

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Speaker 1: bring a different age perspective and dynamic into this situation.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, last night, Ohio didn't even have its primary.

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Speaker 1: I think they pushed it to June. He had Illinois

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Speaker 1: and a handful of other states that did have their primaries.

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Speaker 1: No one's even really paying attention. It's going to be

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden. Joe Biden is going to be the Democrat

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Speaker 1: nominee for president. It's amazing here we are. This guy's

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Speaker 1: been running for president since the eighties, and I guess

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Speaker 1: in a sense, maybe his persistence, his just dogged persistence

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Speaker 1: in the face of what I think others would consider

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Speaker 1: to be good judgment. Maybe it's paying off. I also,

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Speaker 1: and not to bring this back to our primary discussion

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Speaker 1: right now, which is not just here, it's everywhere, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing, nothing even comes close to the

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Speaker 1: Wuhan virus in terms of our attention and urgency and

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Speaker 1: the economic fallout of it. The risks to our vulnerable

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Speaker 1: populook risk to all of us, not just the vulnerable population.

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Speaker 1: As I've been telling you, healthy twenty five year olds

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Speaker 1: can die from the flu, so that means they can

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Speaker 1: definitely die from this too. I think these people who

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Speaker 1: are thinking, who cares if I get it are really

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Speaker 1: being dumb. Would you say that about the flu? Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a flu string going around the office. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: go in there and just get it, because you know

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Speaker 1: who cares? I'll probably be okay. Anybody who's had the flu,

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Speaker 1: and I have in recent memory, you really don't want that.

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Speaker 1: I actually got the flu, and I started my syndicated

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Speaker 1: radio show like about a week or two before it

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Speaker 1: was it was miserable, so I remember what that was like.

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Speaker 1: We have these these two candidates out Trump and Biden,

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Speaker 1: and their look. They're both in the high risk population,

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Speaker 1: and they're gonna be out there, They're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: be interacting with people. They have to keep doing their jobs.

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Speaker 1: And it's gonna feel like a national political crisis if,

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Speaker 1: in fact, one or both of the leaders of their

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Speaker 1: respective parties comes down with COVID nineteen. And I do

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Speaker 1: think we have to take that possibility seriously. I know

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Speaker 1: they're taking it seriously. They're taking the temperature of journalists

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Speaker 1: as they go in to the briefing room for the

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Speaker 1: White House now in the West Wing. So you know,

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be a political campaign unlike anything else

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Speaker 1: we've ever seen, because people are already talking about the

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Speaker 1: possibility of online voting, and now you're really you know,

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Speaker 1: when you got paper ballots and people showing up hacking

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Speaker 1: and you know, the Russians and all this, that's that's

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Speaker 1: a lot of honestly, a lot of hoopla, a lot

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Speaker 1: of whatever. If you're really going to do it all online,

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Speaker 1: that gets a little trickier that than me. And could

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Speaker 1: we even set up this cyber infrastructure and in order

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Speaker 1: to do that, Now people are gonna say, oh, that's

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Speaker 1: not going to happen. Well, we'll see. I don't think

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Speaker 1: anybody thought a month ago that there was going to

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Speaker 1: be a shutdown of schools, hotels, restaurants, everything shutting down

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Speaker 1: basically except for a critical life services. So Bernie Sanders

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Speaker 1: is gonna be out there, get back to the political

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Speaker 1: thread here for a moment. He looks like he's finished,

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Speaker 1: and I can already see where this is heading. I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of you probably recognize this at this

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Speaker 1: stage too. You know, the Democratic campaign is going to

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Speaker 1: be this summer going into the fall, a new new Deal.

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Speaker 1: They're going to say this is like the Great Depression

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Speaker 1: and World War Two, and we need a new deal.

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Speaker 1: And all the analysis, all the research that shows that

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Speaker 1: many of the government actions taken during the New Deal

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Speaker 1: worsened the Great Depression. That will all be suppressed, forgotten, refuted, ignored,

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Speaker 1: and they're going to say that what really needs to

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Speaker 1: happen here. They're going to be running on a platform

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Speaker 1: of the most massive government expansion of our lives, and

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Speaker 1: with that a lot of socialism. Crisis leads to radical change.

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Speaker 1: The Democratic Party has been getting ready for radical change

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Speaker 1: for a long time, even though Bernie Sanders would not

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Speaker 1: be the standard bearer of this. And look back at

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Speaker 1: Franklin Delano Roosevelt. He's somebody who the left, you know, reveres,

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Speaker 1: even though put Japanese Americans in internment camps and did

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Speaker 1: extreme things during World War Two. He is revered mostly

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Speaker 1: not because of his actions in World War Two so

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Speaker 1: much as the New Deal here at home. And when

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Speaker 1: you look at that, that enormous expansion of the government,

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are not going to be able to help

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Speaker 1: themselves from trying to use this crisis as an opportunity

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Speaker 1: to do that all over again. Take what was done

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Speaker 1: one hundred years ago roughly, I mean a little, you know,

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Speaker 1: a little less than a hundred years ago, but ninety

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Speaker 1: years ago with the New Deal, and go forward with

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Speaker 1: a dramatic expansion of all of the aspects of it

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Speaker 1: that they think can you know, and they'll talk about gray.

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Speaker 1: You'll be hearing about green jobs and how the government

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01:18:50,240 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 1: should be paying people to put solar panels on rooftops everywhere.

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Speaker 1: And you know, there's gonna be all this stuff. We

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Speaker 1: are going to be having a replay here of some

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Speaker 1: of the debates about government and the role of government

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Speaker 1: from crisis periods in the twentieth century. We're gonna be

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Speaker 1: replaying that now, so you heard it here, My friends,

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Speaker 1: Democrats are going to be advocating for a new new deal,

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Speaker 1: and I don't think they're gonna call it the Green

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Speaker 1: New Deal overall, but they're they're going to have some

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Speaker 1: role out of it, some name of it. And Joe Biden,

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Speaker 1: who they claim as a moderate but is actually not

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Speaker 1: moderate on his positions at all, because he's where the

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Speaker 1: Democratic parties. The Democratic Party is not moderate. Joe Biden

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Speaker 1: is going to be advocating for a massive expansion of

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Speaker 1: government and you know that is going to be that

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Speaker 1: that's going to be the platform. I mean, they're going

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Speaker 1: to go forward forget about this, you know. So in

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Speaker 1: a sense, it'll be a return to Obamaism insofar as

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Speaker 1: what would Obama do if he were faced with this

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Speaker 1: crisis right now? We saw that they did in the

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight financial crisis, just turn it into

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Speaker 1: opportunity to expand government spending all over the place. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Obama spend trillions and trillions and trillions of dollars on

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Speaker 1: items that the Democratic Party have wanted for a long time.

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Speaker 1: So Biden is effectively going to carry that mantle now

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Speaker 1: as he's got he's gonna even better crisis if he

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Speaker 1: wins to remake the American economy, expand government dramatically, and

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Speaker 1: turn us into a European style social welfare state with

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Speaker 1: very you know, centralized control of the private sector by

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Speaker 1: the government. So there we go. I would also say,

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Speaker 1: I meant to tell you about the good side, and

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Speaker 1: I kind of skipped past it. The way this gets

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Speaker 1: better fast. If we're pretty good about the lockdowns, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna be okay. It's not gonna be fun. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be very scary for a while. But the only way

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Speaker 1: that this gets like we're celebrating in the streets and

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01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: everything's gonna be cool is in the next let's say,

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Speaker 1: three to six months, would be if they develop some

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Speaker 1: ways of treating this where you go to the hospital

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01:21:09,640 --> 01:21:11,800
Speaker 1: if you can't breathe, they give you the drugs, and

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01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, you have a even if you are in

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01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:18,479
Speaker 1: their critical risk population, you end up having a you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you have a ninety nine percent chance

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Speaker 1: of survival with the treatment, with the anti viral drugs

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01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:27,080
Speaker 1: that they can give you. If we get to that point,

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01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: things get better really fast. And you know that's so

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01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,040
Speaker 1: if there's ever been a time when we could call

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Speaker 1: together all of the best minds in the world on microbiology, virology,

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Speaker 1: you name it. I mean, whatever, the epidemiology. The people

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Speaker 1: that have real expertise in this, we need them to

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01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: come together like the like the Avengers and just do

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01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: every and the big pharmaceutical companies we need them to

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:03,200
Speaker 1: come up with something here to deal with this. We

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01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,760
Speaker 1: need all the expertise of the world brought together on

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Speaker 1: this one. I mean, this is the closest thing I've

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01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: ever seen or felt to that moment in the movie

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Speaker 1: Offering arm and Getting where they bring together all these

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01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:15,280
Speaker 1: guys and they have to drill into the asteroid and

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01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:18,960
Speaker 1: you put the nuclear device into the whole thing. We

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01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:21,479
Speaker 1: need a team of like the best deep core drillers

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01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 1: in the world, except they're the best virologists in the world,

1505
01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:27,320
Speaker 1: people that study this and come up and team up

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01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: with the smartest multinational pharmaceutical companies and have some treatment

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01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:37,240
Speaker 1: for this. The treatment is much more likely to come

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01:22:37,240 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 1: online quickly than a vaccine is just not going to

1509
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,280
Speaker 1: come on lunk quickly because the risk is too high.

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01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:43,960
Speaker 1: As I said that, you're going to kill people by

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01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: giving them even if the risk is low that you're

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01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,800
Speaker 1: going to kill people who wants to take the possibility

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01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: that you're going to give them a heightened form of

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01:22:51,200 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: this disease and you might not find out for thirty

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01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,679
Speaker 1: or sixty days after they get it, and you're gonna

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01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 1: give it to millions of people. I mean, it's just

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01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: not they need to be sure that's what they're going

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01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: to say. We might get to the point. I mean,

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01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:08,080
Speaker 1: I wonder when people just want they'll want to take

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01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: the risk themselves and just say, you know, eject me.

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01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: I don't care. I don't know. We could we could

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01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: be heading for those kinds of extreme measures. But let's

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01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,599
Speaker 1: just I am hoping that there will be within sixty

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01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,240
Speaker 1: days a breakthrough on the treatment of this. Not a

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01:23:22,280 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: cure or not a vaccine, but a breakthrough on the

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01:23:25,200 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: treatment of it would be a huge sigh of relief

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01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: for the whole world right now, particularly here in the

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01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:35,640
Speaker 1: United States. You're in the freedom hunt. This is the

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01:23:35,720 --> 01:23:42,400
Speaker 1: Buck Sex and Show podcast really does stun me to

1530
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:47,040
Speaker 1: what degree the democratic establishment continues to ignore the needs

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01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: and the ideas of younger people and if elected president.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it's not only that we're going to

1533
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 1: fight for our agenda. We're going to involve the young

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01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:56,559
Speaker 1: people in the decision making process in a way this

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01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: country has never seen before, because this is a great

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01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,920
Speaker 1: general So those are nature achievements. We've changed the political

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01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:07,719
Speaker 1: dialogue in this country. We are winning overwhelmingly the support

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01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:09,800
Speaker 1: of young people, and they're all gonna be told now

1539
01:24:09,840 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: go vote for Joe Biden. The Bernie Coalition is going

1540
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:16,360
Speaker 1: to be handed over to the Democrat establishment, as I

1541
01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: think was really just expected and planned all along. None

1542
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:23,200
Speaker 1: of this really surprises me. I think this is this

1543
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:26,200
Speaker 1: is really what we should have been thinking all along

1544
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:27,920
Speaker 1: was going to happen in a way. I mean, it's

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01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,280
Speaker 1: easy now, hindsight's twenty twenty. It's easy to say that.

1546
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:33,719
Speaker 1: But it all makes sense, doesn't it. Oh yeah, sure,

1547
01:24:33,720 --> 01:24:35,760
Speaker 1: we're all radicals, but we're not really gonna let this

1548
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: like crazy old socialist. We're gonna put it in the

1549
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 1: hands of a too old for the job career machine

1550
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:47,760
Speaker 1: democrat politician like Biden, not the guy running around talking

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01:24:47,760 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: about revolution going to be a revolution, yeah, Bernie style. Also,

1552
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:02,599
Speaker 1: we heard from the govn Well, how'd heard from him

1553
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 1: in a long time. But he has a couple of

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01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 1: pet donkeys that he's hanging out with. And here is

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01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 1: his message to all of us who are stuck in

1556
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 1: quarantine play twenty. See. The important thing is that you

1557
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,559
Speaker 1: say at home, because there's a curfew now, okay, no

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01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 1: one is allowed out, especially someone that is like seventy

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01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: two years old. After you're sixty five. You know a

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01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,920
Speaker 1: lot of our house and in my California. So we

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01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:36,560
Speaker 1: stay home and we eat here. Right. Oh yeah, there's yummy,

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01:25:36,760 --> 01:25:41,400
Speaker 1: and it's the whiskey, and there's Lulu. Lulu love scarrots,

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01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 1: whiskey love scirrots. I just said my little bit of

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01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 1: Bigan food. Oh that yummy. Oh see, that's what we do.

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01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 1: We don't go out. We don't go to restaurants. We

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01:25:53,479 --> 01:25:56,280
Speaker 1: don't do anything like that anymore. Here we just eat

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01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,559
Speaker 1: with whiskey and b Lulu. We have a good time

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01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:03,000
Speaker 1: be getting entertained. Look at the beautiful smells she has.

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01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:09,760
Speaker 1: Oh yes, oh yes, the youngest. We have a good

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01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 1: time eating you together, so much more fun than going outside.

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01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,280
Speaker 1: No more restaurants, okay, no more restaurants. Forget all that

1572
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 1: company gatherings, restaurants and orders days out of the window.

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01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: You stay home, you stay home. You stay home with

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01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,719
Speaker 1: the donkeys. You stay home with them on your feet.

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01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 1: Whiskey and Lulu the best of the things that you can. Uh. Yeah,

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01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,760
Speaker 1: Schwarzeninger seventy two. Man, I spent so much of my

1577
01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: youth watching that guy in movies. It was It's incredible

1578
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:49,440
Speaker 1: in retrospect. I watched them in The Terminator Commando Predator.

1579
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:54,400
Speaker 1: I watched them in total recall. I feel like no

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01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: one watches that one anymore, but I watched that movie

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Speaker 1: a lot of times. We I own these on VA

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01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: my brothers and I own these on VHR. That's why

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01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:03,439
Speaker 1: I'm such an action movie junkie to this day. But

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01:27:03,479 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 1: he's saying, stay at home with your donkeys. I don't

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01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:08,160
Speaker 1: have donkeys. I wish you could see the video. The

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01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: videos amazing. He's got these little donkeys with him, Which

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01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 1: is like producer Mark, if I gave you a pet

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01:27:14,160 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: donkey to take home, would that keep you and missus Mark?

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01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: Wouldn't keep you guys company? Or would you rather not

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01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 1: have livestock in the house right now? I'd rather maybe

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01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 1: a dog? You go dog first, Yeah, But if your

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01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:31,040
Speaker 1: only choice was a miniature donkey or nothing, what would

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01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: you take um, maybe maybe the donkey right now because

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01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: the wife's still on Long Island, so I'm a little

1595
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 1: a little lonely, so you're solo. Yeah, see this like

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01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,760
Speaker 1: I took my parents Frenchie Tlu. Lulu is the name

1597
01:27:42,760 --> 01:27:44,360
Speaker 1: of his donkey, which I think is pretty funny. We've

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01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:47,280
Speaker 1: got Telu for Telula and those of you that watch

1599
01:27:47,320 --> 01:27:50,759
Speaker 1: on the on the Pluto TV stream the show Pluto

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Speaker 1: TV channel to forty eight, the first those are you

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01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:54,720
Speaker 1: who have it's a free app. Guys downloaded. You can

1602
01:27:54,720 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: watch the video of me doing the mobile Freedom Hunt

1603
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,200
Speaker 1: the Quarantine Freedom Hut, but to lose sometimes appears in

1604
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:03,479
Speaker 1: the shot she likes. She also likes to walk over

1605
01:28:03,680 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 1: and put her belly on my feet when I'm doing

1606
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,760
Speaker 1: the show. That's like her favorite position for whatever reason.

1607
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but she likes to do these things.

1608
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: But it's nice to have a little, a little furry companion,

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01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,320
Speaker 1: except when she wakes me up because she wants the

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01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:18,400
Speaker 1: producer Mark not only I told you about the headbutting

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01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,639
Speaker 1: the food bowl, which is crazy, and now I've learned

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01:28:21,640 --> 01:28:23,799
Speaker 1: I've got to have a very precise mix of dry

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01:28:23,800 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: and wet food for her in her bowl or else,

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01:28:25,640 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 1: she'll start headbutting the bowl all over my apartment like

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01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: a bowl. I guess she is a bulldog with us

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01:28:30,280 --> 01:28:33,800
Speaker 1: for different reasons. If I have any door to any

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01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,439
Speaker 1: room in the apartment closed, she'll wake me up and

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01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:38,439
Speaker 1: she'll scratch at the door until I leave it open.

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01:28:38,479 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: She wants access everywhere. Nothing is allowed to be off

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01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: limits to her. That's every dog. You can't close doors. Yeah,

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01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:47,439
Speaker 1: they don't like they don't like closed doors. I don't

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01:28:47,479 --> 01:28:50,120
Speaker 1: know how. Yeah, it's she if I if I try

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01:28:50,160 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 1: to close the bathroom she doesn't obviously go in the

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01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:55,240
Speaker 1: bathroom for any important reason. We haven't trained her to

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01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,759
Speaker 1: like sit on the potty yet. But if the bathroom

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01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,800
Speaker 1: doors closed, she will scratch it and make me open it.

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01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 1: I'm like, what is this? You mean you don't like

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01:29:03,080 --> 01:29:06,000
Speaker 1: going to the bathroom with your dog? No, see, I

1629
01:29:06,040 --> 01:29:08,559
Speaker 1: like to close the door. But but more to the point,

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01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 1: even if no one's in there, she just insists on

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01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:14,200
Speaker 1: the door being opened. She wants for That's what I'm saying.

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01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 1: She wants free access to every room in the apartment

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01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:18,760
Speaker 1: or else. She'll drive me nuts until I do it.

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01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know, I think she's maybe it's

1635
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:22,880
Speaker 1: just she's very French, but this is the way we're

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01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,160
Speaker 1: doing it. She's very curious. Yeah, we got roll call

1637
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:29,080
Speaker 1: coming up. Thanks for listening to The Bus Sesson Show podcasts.

1638
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: Remember to subscribe on Apple podcasts, the iHeart Radio app,

1639
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:36,800
Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, so we

1640
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,400
Speaker 1: got to do an on air. I mean, I don't

1641
01:29:39,439 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: know if it's it's not a correction, because we're just

1642
01:29:41,080 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 1: telling you what had been reported. Axios has now retracted

1643
01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:48,040
Speaker 1: that Sanders suspended his campaign. So as you hear this,

1644
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:52,200
Speaker 1: you know, maybe maybe that that will be unretracted, but

1645
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:56,720
Speaker 1: now it is retracted. So look, Bernie's not going to

1646
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,120
Speaker 1: be the nominee. He might as well quit. The whole

1647
01:29:59,120 --> 01:30:01,799
Speaker 1: thing's a joke at this point, and honestly, nobody cares

1648
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:04,960
Speaker 1: because we're all stuck indoors and hoping that humanity doesn't

1649
01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 1: come to an end. I'm just saying, let's do roll call.

1650
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:16,599
Speaker 1: Everybody's the show ain't over yet, folks, keeping it real.

1651
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: It's time for roll call, all right, Roll call Facebook

1652
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:37,439
Speaker 1: dot com, Slashbuck Sexton or Team Buck at I heart

1653
01:30:38,240 --> 01:30:42,800
Speaker 1: media dot com. James kicks it off. For us. James

1654
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,120
Speaker 1: is a great name. It's actually tactically my first name.

1655
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: Learn something new every day on this show. You know

1656
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:51,040
Speaker 1: that the end is near when Tom Brady isn't a Patriot. St.

1657
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,360
Speaker 1: Patrick's Day and bars are closed and March madness is

1658
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: a virus sanitized shields hie. Yeah, man, you guys all

1659
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:01,600
Speaker 1: know I told you I did shows. You're probably like

1660
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,719
Speaker 1: book you will selling you four Like I was like, guys,

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01:31:03,760 --> 01:31:05,720
Speaker 1: the country we're in great shape. Things are amazing. You

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01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: know three months ago, six months ago, nine months ago.

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01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:10,559
Speaker 1: That's kept telling you. I kept telling you. You You know

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01:31:10,640 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 1: it is true. Brucer Mark, wasn't I telling people things

1665
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 1: are as good as they're gonna get in this country

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01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 1: For a long time, I was a happy man. I

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01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: was telling everybody it's not gonna last forever. Yesterday something

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01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: great happened. What was that? Tom Brady left the Patriots.

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01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so there are good things. I guess that

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01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,640
Speaker 1: still go on. He's going to the Buccaneers. Yeah. Do

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01:31:29,680 --> 01:31:31,120
Speaker 1: you think they're gonna have like a like a four

1672
01:31:31,160 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 1: and twelve season? Now? No, I think they'll be pretty good.

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01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,080
Speaker 1: I just don't get why the Buccaneers, I mean, how

1674
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 1: many years could he possibly have left. I mean, the

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01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 1: guy's in a machine. I could see him playing till fifty.

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01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,639
Speaker 1: He said he wants to play till he's fifty. That's

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01:31:46,680 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: kind of amazing. Yeah, he's forty three now. But I

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01:31:49,479 --> 01:31:52,000
Speaker 1: mean the Buccaneers they're an okay team right now. I

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01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,640
Speaker 1: don't know how much better Brady makes them at this

1680
01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:58,639
Speaker 1: point in his career. Yeah, that's a fair point, all right,

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Speaker 1: Kelly Buck. I've been a loyal listener for about three years,

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01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,439
Speaker 1: and I never miss a podcast. I was mowing the

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Speaker 1: lawn today and met a neighbor named Rose from the Philippines.

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Speaker 1: She's from the Philippines and has only been the States

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Speaker 1: for about a year and a half. She told me

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Speaker 1: she applied for her visa to come to the States

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Speaker 1: when she was seventeen. She waited twenty four years for

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Speaker 1: it to be approved, and even turned down marriage proposals

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Speaker 1: because it may have affected her place in line to

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Speaker 1: come to the States. She's single and living with their

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01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:28,519
Speaker 1: sister at age forty two. She had nothing good to

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01:32:28,520 --> 01:32:30,880
Speaker 1: say about those who cheat by claiming asylum and is

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01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:34,120
Speaker 1: a incense by their claims of rights. She says, what

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01:32:34,200 --> 01:32:36,360
Speaker 1: rights do they have when their lawbreakers. From the start.

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Speaker 1: It was a very enlightening conversation Shields High Kelly I

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01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:42,160
Speaker 1: brought this up many times. Legal immigrants who go through

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01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: a real struggle to get into this country and be

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01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: able to stay here have you know, they have this

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01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 1: feeling that they're chumps because they actually did it the

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01:32:50,560 --> 01:32:52,080
Speaker 1: right way. They did the way this country asked them to,

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01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,040
Speaker 1: the people of this country asked them to. So I'm

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01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: glad you were able to have that enlightening conversation. It's

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01:32:58,040 --> 01:33:00,200
Speaker 1: not surprising that somebody who went through all of that

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01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:03,200
Speaker 1: process feels that way. And it's just a reminder to

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01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 1: all of us that you know, the rules either apply.

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01:33:06,160 --> 01:33:07,760
Speaker 1: You know, the laws, either the law or it's not.

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01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 1: It can't be this both ways or only sometimes. And

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01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:15,320
Speaker 1: there's a lot of lawlessness in immigration law specifically, and

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01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:20,400
Speaker 1: the open borders crowd is going to have a really

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01:33:20,439 --> 01:33:22,760
Speaker 1: tough time explaining why we shouldn't have control of our

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01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,920
Speaker 1: borders when it seems like border controls may have been

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01:33:25,120 --> 01:33:27,880
Speaker 1: one of the few things early on we got right

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01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:32,360
Speaker 1: in dealing with this pandemic. Tim Rights, why doesn't the

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01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:34,680
Speaker 1: president require ten or twenty billion dollars for border wall

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01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,680
Speaker 1: and enforcement in the bill being hammered out with the

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01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:40,480
Speaker 1: House Democrats. It's being larded up with so much ridiculous

1717
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 1: fever swamp dreamlib fantasies. Trump should say he'll sign it

1718
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:46,879
Speaker 1: when they put it. When they put in border enforcement

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01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 1: and wall funding, we could help the economy by creating

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01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:52,560
Speaker 1: jobs too. Canada just closed their borders to any nonresident,

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01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:56,240
Speaker 1: non citizen folk, so border security must work to controls

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01:33:56,280 --> 01:34:00,880
Speaker 1: zoonotic disease and pandemic migration. We should certainly follow Canada

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01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:03,559
Speaker 1: and Europe's lead, since Libs always want to emulate both

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01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,400
Speaker 1: and gain some control over our borders and not waste

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01:34:06,400 --> 01:34:14,320
Speaker 1: a good crisis shields time. Yeah, Tim, yep, that's true

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01:34:14,320 --> 01:34:17,680
Speaker 1: about the borders. The President is not going to be

1727
01:34:17,680 --> 01:34:19,800
Speaker 1: able to try to slip him in the Congress right now.

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01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:23,240
Speaker 1: They're just look if Republicans have to be the bigger

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01:34:23,360 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: the bigger people on this one, or you know, take

1730
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:27,800
Speaker 1: the high road on this one by not larding it up.

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01:34:28,000 --> 01:34:29,680
Speaker 1: I think that we just got to get this thing

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01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,520
Speaker 1: done and get it done properly. We need emergency financial

1733
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: measures to keep this country from collapsing. Doug Hey Buck

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01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:41,920
Speaker 1: sobering insightful and entertaining podcast last week. Thank you. With

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01:34:41,960 --> 01:34:44,000
Speaker 1: some downtime, I have been able to go back and

1736
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 1: listen to pass podcasts from the Freedom How I missed

1737
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: last year? Wow things Now that things have played out,

1738
01:34:49,439 --> 01:34:53,880
Speaker 1: your prognostications were dead on Mueller, impeachment, Democrat candidates, you

1739
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: name it. Not surprised but even more impressed. Good job.

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01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:00,799
Speaker 1: Thank you very much, Doug. I will say my anything

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01:35:00,840 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: that had to do with national security investigations or just

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01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 1: national security in general. Notice how I was not panicked

1743
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 1: about the Kurds in Syria. I was right. I was not.

1744
01:35:12,320 --> 01:35:14,719
Speaker 1: I was correct at every and look, I'm not sitting

1745
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 1: here to talk about how wonderful I am. I don't

1746
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,559
Speaker 1: do that. Other hosts do that. I wish people would

1747
01:35:18,560 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: recognize it's kind of weird, but other hosts are always

1748
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,120
Speaker 1: talking about there's only one host who should walk around

1749
01:35:23,200 --> 01:35:24,680
Speaker 1: being like I'm the most amazing at this and we

1750
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:29,679
Speaker 1: all know, we all know who he is, and everyone

1751
01:35:29,720 --> 01:35:32,720
Speaker 1: else should should have some serious humility. I think, no

1752
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:38,240
Speaker 1: matter how rich or famous you may be, but I've

1753
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: been right on everything having to do with them other

1754
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:42,519
Speaker 1: probe from day one, from the very beginning, even more

1755
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,320
Speaker 1: right than some of the people who Now you know,

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01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 1: I tweeted out to I haven't heard back from from

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01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:51,160
Speaker 1: Hugh hugh It, I tweeted out, and look, I'm not

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01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:52,560
Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with you, Hugh It. He

1759
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 1: seems like a nice guy. I've never met him, but

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01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:56,439
Speaker 1: I mean, if I've heard, he's a nice enough dude.

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01:35:57,960 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 1: But you know, he came at me kind of hard

1762
01:35:59,520 --> 01:36:01,880
Speaker 1: when I said that the indictment of the Russian troll

1763
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:04,559
Speaker 1: farm was a PR stunt and was going to go nowhere.

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01:36:05,439 --> 01:36:07,040
Speaker 1: And it was and I was right. And he's a

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01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:09,240
Speaker 1: constitutional law scholar who taught at Harvard. I don't even

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01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,040
Speaker 1: have a law degree, but I know more about national

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01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:13,120
Speaker 1: security than he does, so I was right. So there's

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01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 1: that anyway, Ryan, hey Buck, serious questions about the Chinese virus.

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01:36:19,880 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 1: From what I'm readying, they're a little reading, it says reading,

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01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,160
Speaker 1: and it's not my fault reading. There are a little

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01:36:25,240 --> 01:36:28,360
Speaker 1: over seven thousand deaths worldwide. I believe it started in

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01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,759
Speaker 1: November of twenty seventeen. However, when you look at flu deaths,

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01:36:30,760 --> 01:36:33,280
Speaker 1: we're at one hundred and nine thousand globally for twenty twenty.

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01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,559
Speaker 1: Am I missing something. Why. The mass hysteria over something

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01:36:36,560 --> 01:36:38,320
Speaker 1: that is killing not even ten percent of what the

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01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: flu has in a short time frame got my shields

1777
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 1: of skepticism real high on this one election year hysteria

1778
01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:48,000
Speaker 1: look ryan important always to ask why. And I think

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01:36:48,040 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: people that approach any of these questions in good faith

1780
01:36:52,000 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 1: are well within their rights to continue to ask for

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01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:59,480
Speaker 1: more information and more more of a really a justification

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01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:02,160
Speaker 1: for our we we're taking these steps. So here's where

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01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 1: it's at. The flu, we take no precautions whatsoever really

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01:37:07,439 --> 01:37:10,879
Speaker 1: as a society to avoid We essentially have like free

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01:37:10,880 --> 01:37:13,840
Speaker 1: flowing flu all over the place, and you just hope

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01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:20,520
Speaker 1: you don't get it. But this disease is ten times

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01:37:20,560 --> 01:37:23,559
Speaker 1: as lethal, maybe twenty times as lethal as the flu.

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01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:26,519
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have a much if you do that,

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01:37:26,880 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: you're gonna have a much much higher body count. There's

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Speaker 1: also the belief right now in the scientific community that

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01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:37,880
Speaker 1: it is more easily transmitted than the flu. Now you know,

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01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 1: who knows, that might be adjusted, but so you might

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01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:43,120
Speaker 1: have a higher number of infected in the overall population

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01:37:43,160 --> 01:37:46,320
Speaker 1: and a much higher number of deaths. And remember the

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01:37:46,439 --> 01:37:51,680
Speaker 1: death's number isn't from a structural medical standpoint isn't necessarily

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01:37:51,720 --> 01:37:54,679
Speaker 1: the thing the only thing that you have to focus on.

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01:37:54,840 --> 01:37:59,240
Speaker 1: There's also ICU admissions. People that have to be in

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01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,800
Speaker 1: the ICU for three or four weeks on a ventilator

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01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:09,559
Speaker 1: because they get COVID nineteen. They are you know, that's

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01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,600
Speaker 1: a huge drain on the system. And we need to

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01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 1: give people that care, obviously, but we can only give

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01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,040
Speaker 1: so many people that care. There's only so many beds.

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01:38:17,640 --> 01:38:20,080
Speaker 1: You know. This is where the sander Nistas and the

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01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:23,719
Speaker 1: promise of universal healthcare and free healthcare for everyone. Okay,

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01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:26,679
Speaker 1: everyone gets free healthcare according to the government. What happens

1806
01:38:26,680 --> 01:38:27,920
Speaker 1: when you have a thousand and six people and you

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01:38:27,960 --> 01:38:30,519
Speaker 1: only have ten doctors for them. What happens you have

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01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 1: ten thousand people that need icucare and you've got five

1809
01:38:32,680 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: thousand ICU beds. You're going to wave around the Bernie

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01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:41,559
Speaker 1: Sanders proclamation that everybody gets free healthcare exactly. So this

1811
01:38:41,640 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 1: is a lesson for all of us in that regard.

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01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 1: But to really get to the meat of your question,

1813
01:38:46,800 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 1: if we wait on this, by the time we know

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01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: that all these estimates are correct, as in ten to

1815
01:38:53,880 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 1: twenty times a fatality rate higher transmissibility. By the time

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01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:59,360
Speaker 1: we get there, it's too late and you won't be

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01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:04,439
Speaker 1: able to stop the collapse at least temporarily of the

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01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:08,120
Speaker 1: healthcare system and mass casualties. You know, tens of thousands,

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01:39:08,160 --> 01:39:11,360
Speaker 1: if not hundreds of thousands dead from this in a month.

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01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:16,160
Speaker 1: So that's where we are. As I've been saying, if

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01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:19,000
Speaker 1: a few weeks pass and you know, who knows, they're Oh.

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01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 1: One other part of possible good news. Something we really

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01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:24,840
Speaker 1: need to find out is do you have immunity to

1824
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:26,439
Speaker 1: this if you get it and you get through it.

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01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,320
Speaker 1: They won't. They won't confirm that yet. I'd like to

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01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,360
Speaker 1: think the answers yes, they're saying they don't know. Well,

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01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 1: then what we might have to We might have are

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01:39:34,479 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people who will be immune to it

1829
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,120
Speaker 1: when they recover, and we're going to need those people,

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01:39:41,160 --> 01:39:44,479
Speaker 1: especially if they're younger and healthy, to really step up

1831
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:46,760
Speaker 1: and help out with every you know, do a lot.

1832
01:39:47,160 --> 01:39:49,160
Speaker 1: And it's going to be and I'm hoping there'll be

1833
01:39:49,200 --> 01:39:53,320
Speaker 1: millions of people that if this spreads the way they say,

1834
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:56,640
Speaker 1: it's going to the young and healthy who get it,

1835
01:39:56,680 --> 01:39:58,360
Speaker 1: and there there could be you know, there could be

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01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:01,240
Speaker 1: millions of them would be able to be out there

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01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:05,960
Speaker 1: and you know, continue necessary services and do things for

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01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:08,760
Speaker 1: the rest of the of the of the vulnerable population

1839
01:40:08,760 --> 01:40:12,559
Speaker 1: that we really need to keep sequestered away. But yeah,

1840
01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:14,600
Speaker 1: we can't. We can't take the risk right now. Is

1841
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:18,679
Speaker 1: essentially the answer to your question, Ryan, because if they're right,

1842
01:40:21,160 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be catastrophic, if they're right, that the

1843
01:40:24,000 --> 01:40:25,839
Speaker 1: numbers are going to spike in this way and overwhelm

1844
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:29,760
Speaker 1: the healthcare system, because remember ten ventilators, twenty patients who

1845
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:33,479
Speaker 1: need them, they show up, guess what, no ventilator. You

1846
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,439
Speaker 1: can't breathe. Maybe you've got hours to live, maybe maybe

1847
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: even less. So you're just you're gonna people are gonna die.

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01:40:40,240 --> 01:40:42,479
Speaker 1: That's what's gonna happen. They're just not gonna have what's

1849
01:40:42,479 --> 01:40:44,400
Speaker 1: the doctor gonna do. Pull the ventilator out to one person,

1850
01:40:44,479 --> 01:40:46,200
Speaker 1: let them die so that somebody else gets a ventilate.

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01:40:46,200 --> 01:40:48,280
Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is what is happening in Italy.

1852
01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 1: So that's where we are. Italy has made this whole

1853
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:54,599
Speaker 1: thing very different in a lot of people's minds because

1854
01:40:54,600 --> 01:40:56,760
Speaker 1: we're seeing this play out. We have real numbers. We

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01:40:56,800 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 1: trust the Italian government's reporting on this more than we

1856
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:04,000
Speaker 1: trust a Chinese government. And Italy has a you know,

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01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:07,080
Speaker 1: first world healthcare system, very developed, similar to our own,

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01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:12,280
Speaker 1: you know, world class doctors, serious medical facilities, and they're

1859
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 1: completely shell shocked by this. So that's what really that

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01:41:15,479 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 1: looked Italy was. The change for me was oh, okay, no,

1861
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:22,280
Speaker 1: this we're about to get hit with a tidal way.

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01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:26,680
Speaker 1: This is real, and I look, if I'm wrong, just

1863
01:41:26,840 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 1: stay with me, your team, as you have, many of

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01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: you have now for years. And I'm going on and

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01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:33,760
Speaker 1: it'll be this tune the ninth year that I've been

1866
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:36,040
Speaker 1: in this business, and I think the eighth year I've

1867
01:41:36,040 --> 01:41:38,840
Speaker 1: been doing radio. So some of you've been with me

1868
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:40,760
Speaker 1: a long time, and you know that if I'm wrong

1869
01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:43,720
Speaker 1: on this, not only will I admit it, I'll be thrilled.

1870
01:41:44,439 --> 01:41:46,240
Speaker 1: I'll be doing a little buck dance here in the

1871
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:49,360
Speaker 1: Freedom Hup, going wild if it turns out that this

1872
01:41:49,439 --> 01:41:52,240
Speaker 1: is not nearly as bad and all this stuff was

1873
01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:56,080
Speaker 1: a you know, excessive and everything else. As I've told you,

1874
01:41:56,120 --> 01:41:58,120
Speaker 1: I think the chance of that happening is about one percent.

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01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,599
Speaker 1: Dan dear Buck, thanks so much for sharing your wealth

1876
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:04,040
Speaker 1: of knowledge with all of us. To tune in love

1877
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 1: your show most out of any on the TV or

1878
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:11,120
Speaker 1: the radio. I ran out of current podcast to listen to,

1879
01:42:11,200 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: so I was listening to some oldies but goodies, and

1880
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:16,559
Speaker 1: I was listening to podcast entitled The Impeachment Turkey's Cooked.

1881
01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:19,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure you remember what you said that day, approximately

1882
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:22,519
Speaker 1: twenty one minutes in. I just in case you don't remember,

1883
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:24,320
Speaker 1: you were talking about things, We're going so good for

1884
01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: our country, but you had this ominous feeling that something

1885
01:42:27,400 --> 01:42:30,080
Speaker 1: bad was going to happen this year. Well you were right,

1886
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:33,080
Speaker 1: some profit you turned out to be. Just wanted to

1887
01:42:33,080 --> 01:42:35,439
Speaker 1: remind you of that. Thanks again for entertaining us and

1888
01:42:35,560 --> 01:42:39,360
Speaker 1: lighting us. You are the best. That's kind of what

1889
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:41,120
Speaker 1: I've been saying. Guys, I knew that, you know, Mark,

1890
01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:44,840
Speaker 1: can we pull pull, Let's pull from that, you know,

1891
01:42:44,960 --> 01:42:47,280
Speaker 1: twenty one minutes in on the Impeachment Turkey's Cook. Let's

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Speaker 1: s's grab that audio for tomorrow, just so I can

1893
01:42:49,240 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 1: hear back what I said because I had this feeling.

1894
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:55,320
Speaker 1: I remember, I had a feeling before nine to eleven,

1895
01:42:56,400 --> 01:42:58,719
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you, like weeks before nine to eleven.

1896
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:01,240
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to say that I'm have premonitions or something.

1897
01:43:01,640 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 1: But I remember thinking, you know what, my generation and

1898
01:43:03,880 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 1: we're all just we're all just running around. We're kind

1899
01:43:06,280 --> 01:43:09,040
Speaker 1: of superficial. We're just partying. You know, what's our great fight?

1900
01:43:09,120 --> 01:43:11,600
Speaker 1: What's our great struggle? You know there's you know, the

1901
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 1: stock market, you know is seeing well. I mean, actually

1902
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,479
Speaker 1: there's a big tech tech sector collapse. But you know, overall,

1903
01:43:18,520 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: the economy was strong and we didn't have any enemies,

1904
01:43:20,479 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 1: and there was just a sense of an almost blase euphoria.

1905
01:43:25,280 --> 01:43:27,200
Speaker 1: And I thought, what what? And I wasn't thinking that

1906
01:43:27,240 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 1: something terrible is going to happen that by the way,

1907
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 1: that I won't say that, but I was thinking, like, man,

1908
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: we just don't there is no fight for this generation.

1909
01:43:33,520 --> 01:43:35,720
Speaker 1: And then the planes ran into the towers in the

1910
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,400
Speaker 1: Pentagon a few weeks later. I mean, I'm really and

1911
01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, my generation certainly, and the generation above

1912
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:43,600
Speaker 1: me and the generation above that, we certainly have a

1913
01:43:43,640 --> 01:43:48,800
Speaker 1: fight on our hands. And we did. You're in the

1914
01:43:48,920 --> 01:43:56,120
Speaker 1: Freedom Hud. This is the Buck Sexton Show podcast. All right,

1915
01:43:56,200 --> 01:43:58,240
Speaker 1: we get Jack. It's really one of my favorite names.

1916
01:43:58,240 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 1: I think Jack's a great name. You ask for feedback

1917
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,160
Speaker 1: from listeners around the country. I find myself in the

1918
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:06,760
Speaker 1: disappointing position of being in ground zero for the Commonwealth

1919
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:11,519
Speaker 1: of Virginia. Williamsburg has nine confirmed cases and one death.

1920
01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:14,559
Speaker 1: The schools have been closed for two weeks to start with.

1921
01:44:14,720 --> 01:44:16,920
Speaker 1: Most government offices closed at noon on Friday and will

1922
01:44:16,920 --> 01:44:20,439
Speaker 1: be closed Monday. Local businesses are feeling they hit. Grocery

1923
01:44:20,439 --> 01:44:23,360
Speaker 1: stores have some empty shelves, but not overwhelming numbers. In

1924
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,680
Speaker 1: my neighborhood, more people are walking, which can't be a

1925
01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:28,760
Speaker 1: bad thing. I'm working on my woodlathe more. Never let

1926
01:44:28,760 --> 01:44:31,120
Speaker 1: a crisis pass. Yeah, Jack, I want to do more

1927
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:32,880
Speaker 1: of that. You know. Tomorrow in the third hour, I'll

1928
01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:34,760
Speaker 1: talk to you about how I'm gonna try to make

1929
01:44:34,760 --> 01:44:36,519
Speaker 1: a list and actually put it up on the wall

1930
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:40,439
Speaker 1: of what do I want to accomplish during this time

1931
01:44:40,479 --> 01:44:42,640
Speaker 1: of social distancing? What do I want to accomplish? And

1932
01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,280
Speaker 1: by the way, another thing that I've been saying or

1933
01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:46,599
Speaker 1: thinking about I'm gonna do. I'm gonna start doing it. Team.

1934
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: I'd like to do some Facebook live with all of you,

1935
01:44:50,560 --> 01:44:52,160
Speaker 1: or I just sit and we hang out and talk.

1936
01:44:52,240 --> 01:44:53,640
Speaker 1: You know, this will be our way of dealing with

1937
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,559
Speaker 1: social distancing. It's easy obviously, I've got to set up

1938
01:44:56,560 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 1: at home where i can do this now, so some

1939
01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 1: of you write to me and let me know. You know,

1940
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,800
Speaker 1: is the best time in the evening. That's probably when

1941
01:45:02,800 --> 01:45:06,480
Speaker 1: I'm most likely to do it, you know, maybe around

1942
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:10,280
Speaker 1: seven Eastern so anybody's done with their workday. I know

1943
01:45:10,280 --> 01:45:11,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people are working from home now, but

1944
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 1: that I don't want to interrupt family time. But you know,

1945
01:45:14,200 --> 01:45:17,000
Speaker 1: there's also everyone's home all day with their families, so

1946
01:45:17,080 --> 01:45:19,360
Speaker 1: maybe and you're not seeing family that you're no living

1947
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:21,360
Speaker 1: here any works, you're not traveling, So I don't know.

1948
01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:22,519
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think of one of the best

1949
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 1: time is to do this. But I want to have

1950
01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:26,519
Speaker 1: more interaction with all of you, and I also want

1951
01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:30,120
Speaker 1: to start. I'll pull together the ten books you must

1952
01:45:30,160 --> 01:45:33,080
Speaker 1: read during quarantine. How about that that's a good a

1953
01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:36,320
Speaker 1: good thing for us to have. I'll pull some of

1954
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:39,479
Speaker 1: them movie books I've already or books I've already read, others, won't.

1955
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:41,280
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll tell you that one book that I've

1956
01:45:41,280 --> 01:45:44,080
Speaker 1: already set aside for my quarantine, and you're gonna say,

1957
01:45:44,120 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 1: I can't believe you haven't read that, And I'm that's

1958
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,800
Speaker 1: why I'm reading it. Guys, I admit there are some

1959
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:52,559
Speaker 1: weird book gap book book gaps, gap books, book gaps

1960
01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 1: that I've missed. Buck Speak English Good Moby Dick, never

1961
01:45:57,840 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 1: assigned it and never read it. I'm gonna be read

1962
01:46:00,160 --> 01:46:03,400
Speaker 1: movie Dick while I'm in self quarantine, and I'll tell

1963
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:05,160
Speaker 1: you what I think about that one. I'm obviously watching

1964
01:46:05,200 --> 01:46:07,439
Speaker 1: a fair amount of shows. I've gotten into this show

1965
01:46:07,479 --> 01:46:10,840
Speaker 1: the Boys, and we'll talk more about this. I mean, guys,

1966
01:46:11,080 --> 01:46:13,400
Speaker 1: I think this is important for all of us, and

1967
01:46:13,479 --> 01:46:14,560
Speaker 1: I want to hear from all of you, and I

1968
01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 1: could see more people writing into Roll Call. Please do that.

1969
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,639
Speaker 1: It is Mike. You are my connection to the outside

1970
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:21,599
Speaker 1: world right now, all of you who listen to this,

1971
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,880
Speaker 1: who write in, who watch us, and we're just gonna

1972
01:46:24,920 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 1: try to find more ways Producer Mark and I to

1973
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, have community, and you know you can always

1974
01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:31,240
Speaker 1: address something directly, you know, to Producer Mark if you

1975
01:46:31,240 --> 01:46:32,800
Speaker 1: want a Roll Call to to get one of his

1976
01:46:32,840 --> 01:46:36,040
Speaker 1: salty answers. So you know, guys, reach out to us.

1977
01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,280
Speaker 1: We're gonna be reaching out to you every day and

1978
01:46:38,479 --> 01:46:40,719
Speaker 1: we'll be back here tomorrow. We're all in this together.

1979
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Speaker 1: Shields High