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Speaker 1: three sixty five. We are part of the Volume podcast Network,

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Speaker 1: live from our Tommy John Home Studios. I am Chad

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Speaker 1: Milman of the Action Network. This is our Sunday Night episode.

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Speaker 1: We will review the faves five picks we put into

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Speaker 1: the contest, dissect why we left some of them out,

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Speaker 1: preview the early lines for week thirteen, Man thirteenteen. I'm

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Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, my companion, my Campadre,

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Speaker 1: my BFF Professional Better, Simon Hunter Ella Simon.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a day, crazy day of football.

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Speaker 1: Wacky, wild head spinning, heart attack and heart attack inducing,

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Speaker 1: stomach churning slates of early games and somehow from the

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Speaker 1: contest point of view, were not really impacted by any

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Speaker 1: of them. In fact, for the second week in a row,

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Speaker 1: we only played two of the four games that were

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Speaker 1: typically obvious plays for us that we tend to love.

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Speaker 1: Three of those games, one only loss was the one

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Speaker 1: that we played, just like Buffalo last week. The only

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Speaker 1: loss was the one that we played, and when I

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Speaker 1: say Buffalo, I mean Kansas City losing to Buffalo. We

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Speaker 1: did find a teeny, teeny tiny bit of redemption with

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Speaker 1: one of our favorite teams to bet. We will get

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Speaker 1: to all of that and more. Cliffhanger right there, simon.

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Speaker 1: restrictions apply we are two and two heading into the

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Speaker 1: Sunday night game. We are on the Rams at plus

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Speaker 1: two and a half. This is a strictly Simon bet.

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Speaker 1: Last week, the Browns were a strictly Chad bet. It

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Speaker 1: did not work. This week, we are on a strictly

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Speaker 1: Simon bet. I hope it works. I'd like to be

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Speaker 1: three and two. I'm willing to lose my Eagles bet

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Speaker 1: that has actual dollars on it because I know how

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Speaker 1: much you want the Rams and I'd like us to

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Speaker 1: be three and two this week.

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Speaker 2: You're literally a crazy person.

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Speaker 3: I love that every time you mentioned this, you're like

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Speaker 3: it's because of the Browns last week. No, I would

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Speaker 3: have made this bet before stin regardless of the Browns

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Speaker 3: covered last week or if they didn't.

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Speaker 2: I loved at your reference point. But uh yeah, we

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Speaker 3: We need it for a winning week. And you know

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Speaker 3: we talked this morning. I was open to take it

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Speaker 3: out just because it's a bad number. Like we said,

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Speaker 3: there's threes out there. I'd feel more confident if we

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Speaker 3: had a three three and a half, but luckily we

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Speaker 3: Patriots or the Bears in there, which obviously the Bears

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Speaker 3: would have been epic for us, but Patriots woo. That

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm happy with two and two right now.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you.

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Speaker 1: I feel great about two and two, and I feel

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Speaker 1: And we'll talk about it. Let's talk about the game.

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Speaker 1: We loved the most. One of the big dogs in

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Speaker 1: the early slate that just could not get it done.

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Speaker 1: We had Indianapolis plus seven and a half against Detroit

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Speaker 1: We thought this could be not a letdown spot because

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Speaker 3: But one team could run the ball today and Detroit

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Speaker 3: Taylor he just did not show up today. He did

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Speaker 3: nothing for us. And I'll be honest, when they kicked

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Speaker 3: that field goal to start the game, I instantly regretted

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but I was like, why

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Speaker 3: and you know, like we keep saying Detroit breaks a

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Speaker 3: you can't you can't kick field goals against Detroit, especially

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Speaker 3: when you're in the red zone, you know, a couple

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Speaker 2: It's just Detroit's gonna get theirs.

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Speaker 3: And their defense played well, like Detroit put up what

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Speaker 3: up against this juggern Ivan offense that Detroit has, and

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Speaker 3: their defense show, but they're just a complete team right now.

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Speaker 3: Detroit with the Colts, like you said, it was competitive.

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Speaker 3: Game was fourteen six. You know, a couple things kind

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Speaker 3: much closer half, But that second half it was just

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Speaker 3: I think it was nine for twenty four passing. So yeah,

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Speaker 3: rolled all the good we saw in the Jets game

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Speaker 3: kind of went out the window. He just was not

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Speaker 3: was brutal but bad read bad bet and we we

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Speaker 3: haven't learned our lesson here with this Detroit team. But

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Speaker 1: It's going to make a trick. I've already flagged that

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Speaker 1: the favorites Anthony Richardson. You just mentioned how badly he played,

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Speaker 1: Lions two good, good, too, physical, too well coached right.

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Speaker 1: Five penalties for the Lions, ten for the Colts. Lions

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Speaker 1: A boring game, poorly played, completely disappointing. That's that's how

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said, though he had opportunities, you were

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Speaker 3: completely folded on himself. I don't know whatever happened that

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Speaker 3: just Detroit right now, they're just a complete team, and

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Speaker 3: they're they're they're not just beating these teams like they're

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Speaker 2: Like that was another double digit win. This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: They're destroying them, and I feel like they're mentally breaking

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Speaker 1: The Lions come back. Sam Darnold for the next three

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Speaker 1: just it's like they're so freaking physical, they're so hard

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Speaker 2: And they know exactly where they are.

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Speaker 3: They're like, they're running it on thirty eight and it's

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Speaker 3: the confidence of the line that he'll he'll adjust, he'll

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Speaker 3: see be like, all right, they're dropping back on thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: I'll just run it here.

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Speaker 3: And they're picking up you know, ten yards in that

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Speaker 3: carry like and that one two punch of Gibbs Montgomery. Man,

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Speaker 3: it's it's lethal right now. So they're just so good.

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Speaker 3: If you're a fan of their team, obviously you're hoping

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Speaker 3: for this last month, month and a half, they've just

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Speaker 2: They're just so complete right.

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Speaker 1: Now, quick reminder are free free favorites. Podcast watch party

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Speaker 1: is just weeks away. It's time to are at VP, folks. Thursday,

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Speaker 1: December twelfth, The Wicked Wolf in Center City, Philadelphia, Simon

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Speaker 1: Hunter's hometown. We're gonna do drinks, free drinks, a live

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Speaker 2: We found something special, man. I felt It's like we're

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Speaker 2: That's exactly where you want to be right now.

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Speaker 1: All right, gether game? Kansas City at Carolina. We had

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Speaker 1: and us doing the right thing by not being afraid

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Speaker 1: the Panthers. The Panthers finally, finally, finally looking like the

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Speaker 1: team we thought they would be to start the year right,

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Speaker 1: There was a moment, though, I don't know if you

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Speaker 1: did you ever feel that way?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I would say the opening touchdown when the guy's wide open,

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Speaker 3: Noah Gray, and it's like mahomes thrown to wide open guys.

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Speaker 3: This is not good for me and Chad and then

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Speaker 3: we had what straight field goals by Carolina, So yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's this is life betting these bad teams. It just

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Speaker 3: makes you put your hair out. All the different scenaries

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Speaker 3: we were right, like, we trusted the number.

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Speaker 2: When it came down to it.

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Speaker 3: I was kicking myself that we didn't taken the money

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Speaker 3: line around Robin because that was honestly where I wanted

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Speaker 3: So that was probably the most shocking part of it,

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Speaker 3: You know, we got to it and it's this is

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Speaker 3: and when they do Bryce Bryce Young is very accurate, right,

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Speaker 2: He just kept folding.

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Speaker 1: And he hit some great throws today.

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Speaker 3: Confidence back, right, And that's something we talked about where

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Speaker 2: We just don't know if he's a starter in this league.

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Speaker 3: You need two to three years really to evaluate these quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: just said, he was making plays that I don't know

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Speaker 3: great game, great bet, And you know the ten and

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Speaker 2: Never it was never really in debt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I bet some time and a half,

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Speaker 3: Well, it was the day before. We just did it

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Speaker 1: Right, But what happened was in that window between us

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Speaker 1: So during the game, I'm like, are you freaking kidding

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Speaker 3: This year has been weird, Chad, The the two and

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Speaker 3: the three have only really mattered to this year.

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Speaker 2: Do you agree?

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Speaker 3: It feels like all of our bets. The only time

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Speaker 3: it's been very bizarre this year where the numbers really

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Speaker 3: have not mattered. Like we joked today, it was like

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Speaker 3: so it was just it's been weird like this this year.

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Speaker 3: weird numbers before. But in actuality it just never I

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Speaker 3: mean this year especially, it just not has not happened

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Speaker 1: Fascinating game. The Panthers were nine of thirteen on third

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Speaker 1: and fourth down conversions combined. Right Bryce Young had three

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Speaker 1: and so the question becomes like are these Panthers Are

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Speaker 1: these Panthers a team? That we are starting to believe in.

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Speaker 1: Will the market catch up. They've got a big number

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Speaker 1: don't know if there's like an adjustment yet, if this

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Speaker 1: People were on the Panthers raybound timeked about it and

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Speaker 2: Them, Well, we'll see.

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Speaker 3: I mean I have to keep a justing. I told you,

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Speaker 3: it's like fell like got I was, Okay, this is

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Speaker 1: Books obviously dominated the Giants and Baker just bald. I

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I love watching him play.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, him throwing the block down field, all of it.

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Speaker 3: I get why you didn't trust it though, because we

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Speaker 3: You saw today like they're a good offense, right even

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Speaker 2: So we could have got burned by it. That's what

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Speaker 3: But my view was just like, let's just play this

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Speaker 1: very inconsistent, as you say, quarterback, there's not a lot

436
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Speaker 1: of people can count on. That was to me was

437
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Speaker 1: the concern. I didn't have faith he'd be able to

438
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 1: make the plays when we really needed him to, and

439
00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 1: he kind of didn't except for that one drop by Watson.

440
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,400
Speaker 1: That makes me think about the future obviously they're playing Thanksgiving.

441
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 1: That's another game I flagged. They're playing in Miami, And

442
00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna want to talk about that with you, because

443
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm concerned about Jordan Love. He's

444
00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: just had a bad year, just had a really bad year.

445
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you know they talked about during

446
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,679
Speaker 3: the broadcast he was leading the league interceptions even though

447
00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 3: he missed multiple games this year.

448
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know.

449
00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 3: Last year the best part of Jordan Love was how

450
00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 3: you know the second half of the season, I think

451
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 3: you only had two interceptions or something crazy like that.

452
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 3: And it's like, Okay, this guy's throwing from multiple touchdowns

453
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 3: a game with no interceptions.

454
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Speaker 2: He's a stud. They paid him like one and this

455
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 2: year you've seen it.

456
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Speaker 3: He's regressed to the meeting, right, It's like, yeah, he's

457
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 3: not that guy who's like Aaron Rodgers.

458
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:13,640
Speaker 2: That Aaron Rodgers was the unicorn.

459
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 3: We've always talked about that his thirty touchdowns, thirty five

460
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 3: touchdowns and five interceptions.

461
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Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen again. Man.

462
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,960
Speaker 3: Like I was scared because I was like, oh my god,

463
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 3: they might have got another Aaron Rodgers here because he

464
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 3: was just so smart last year with the ball like

465
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 3: anytime he could throw fifty to fifty balls. Last year,

466
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 3: it felt like he put in a position where this

467
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 3: guy would catch it or no one would.

468
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Speaker 2: This year, a lot of his stuff's like over the middle.

469
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:40,719
Speaker 3: Just bullets like no, you know, no fades in the corner,

470
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: like he's trying to like throw through guys, and he's

471
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 3: throwing it right to defend him a couple of times.

472
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Speaker 3: So you're right to be hesitant about him right now.

473
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Speaker 3: I mean, I got no excuses for him. He's just

474
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Speaker 3: been bad this year.

475
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Speaker 1: I do wonder how much the injuries are impacting him

476
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: right Like he he has lower body injuries. That impacts

477
00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 1: your mobility. I think it impacts your confidence and it

478
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: probably impacts your performance in a variety of ways that

479
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:10,639
Speaker 1: you can't really sort of tangibly put your finger on.

480
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: But he's clearly not the same player he was last year,

481
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,760
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been all year, and he's been injured

482
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 1: all year, so he's probably playing through stuff. He might

483
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: be back to his old self next year. This year,

484
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Speaker 1: no love, Yeah, this week we have no Thursday episode

485
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Speaker 1: or this Thanksgiving. I want everyone to have a fantastic

486
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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving I will be packing up my mother in law's

487
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: Taten Island. I hope everyone is doing something a lot

488
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: more fun than that. As this tradition, we will do

489
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 1: our Thanksgiving mega episode on Tuesday at the usual time

490
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: that is one forty five pm Eastern on Tuesday. All

491
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Speaker 1: the picks, all of our segments all on Thursday. That's

492
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Speaker 1: big Balls, that's the money line, Underdog Round Rob and

493
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Speaker 1: that's the boosted parlay, every pick, the box al. It's

494
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Speaker 1: all gonna be on Tuesday so we can celebrate Turkey Day.

495
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Speaker 1: Last game, Arizona Seattle. Did we get got? Like on this?

496
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 1: Like it felt like they were the Cardinals were just

497
00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,679
Speaker 1: disinterested in this whole game. Like at one point they

498
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: couldn't convert on third downs six straight missed third downs,

499
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: fourth and one didn't convert, got lucky with the called

500
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 1: Seattle time out, and then the next play Kyler Murray

501
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 1: rolling out, gonna run for it, decides to pull it

502
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 1: back as a guy wide freaking open, little tiny tear

503
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: drop pass. It's gonna be perfect sales on him. Pick six.

504
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: Seattle ends up being the game. What happened here?

505
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got Kyler?

506
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Speaker 3: I mean he just played awful in every aspect you

507
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,120
Speaker 3: just talked about, and for some reason they wouldn't commit

508
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,879
Speaker 3: to the run even though it was a seven to

509
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 3: three game.

510
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, the whole for half and.

511
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, that pick six is kind of like the nail

512
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 3: on the coffin because Gino didn't have it either. I mean,

513
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:10,199
Speaker 3: let's be honest, like he he had be a nice

514
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: two minute drill like he always does.

515
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 1: He didn't and he did like in the same sort

516
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 1: of chaotic, high pressure situations where everyone is running around.

517
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:25,639
Speaker 1: Gino had multiple plays where he got out of the pocket,

518
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: found the guy you know, and made the miracle play

519
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: That sort of feels like the kick and the dick

520
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: that we all have when we're losing these games. And

521
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: the rest of the time he's just Gino and he

522
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: makes stupid decisions. But it's like those two minutes are cardiac.

523
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like honestly, like you're describing him, he's great. Between

524
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 3: the thirties. That's where Gino's great. Like you need a

525
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,160
Speaker 3: useless yards in the middle of the field, He'll get

526
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:59,960
Speaker 3: you those yards that end zone picky through like inexcusable.

527
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: Just every week it fills with Gino. He has moments like.

528
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,880
Speaker 3: This, but no, it was Kyler. Kyler just totally laid

529
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 3: an egg. I mean, I'm gonna go back and watch

530
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,359
Speaker 3: it all twenty two. I know for a fact, you know,

531
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,880
Speaker 3: a couple of different options where he just missed wide

532
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 3: open guys in the end zone. And you know it

533
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 3: could because maybe they get a little bit of pressure

534
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: in this game where it's like he gets rattled easily,

535
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 3: and when he has that, he just starts feeling like

536
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: there's guys around him and there wasn't any sometimes like

537
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 3: he panicked, tried to run out of the pocket too often.

538
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,880
Speaker 3: But the biggest issue for me is them abandoned the run.

539
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,160
Speaker 3: They just we know Seattle is not great against the run,

540
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 3: and you know, they kind of just moved on from

541
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 3: it right away early in the game, like they just

542
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 3: it didn't work for a little bit and they were

543
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 3: just like, all right, we'll just have Kyler throw it

544
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 3: forty times this game, which was bizarre because like we

545
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 3: just said, it was a close.

546
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,640
Speaker 2: Game all the way to the end. Uh So, yeah,

547
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:50,800
Speaker 2: bad bet bad read.

548
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: He looked bored. Kyler just looked bored and disinterested. You know,

549
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: we got a couple of regrets here, so that the

550
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 1: two big dogs that we left out, the big division

551
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: dogs that we left out, Titans and Cowboys. Obviously they

552
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: both won today, crazy crazy games, And this was you

553
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: know you said earlier we trusted the number with the Panthers, Right,

554
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 1: we should have trusted the number with the Titans and

555
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,959
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. But both teams have quarterbacks that we do

556
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: not trust, and unlike Bryce Young, there's been no evidence

557
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: that we should trust them. Right, I'm like trying to

558
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: unpack why didn't we just go with them? Like we

559
00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:33,720
Speaker 1: knew that we had so many We had such a

560
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: long conversation about the Titans, and like the trends worried us,

561
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,399
Speaker 1: but then the trends are also there to regress, you know.

562
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think he got sacked eight times and

563
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 2: he threw a pick six.

564
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: He got sacked eight times in the first and like

565
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:52,399
Speaker 1: six times in the first half, and he threw a

566
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: pick six to give the Texans the lead. And when

567
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: that happened, I was like, honest to god, I was

568
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,000
Speaker 1: actually more upset about the games we didn't put in

569
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: today than the games we lost, or were more excited

570
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: about the games we won. Yeah, And I don't know

571
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: if that ever happens to you, but with will Levis

572
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: when they went down twenty four to twenty three after

573
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 1: that pick six, I said to myself, I'm so glad

574
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: we didn't put this in the contest because it was

575
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 1: ripe for the Texans to run away with that game.

576
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 3: After Yeah, I mean I felt that a little bit.

577
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: The biggest one I would say was the Bears.

578
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: Like we I had guys in my ear about that

579
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 3: game on Sunday last week.

580
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: We talked about it Sunday night.

581
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 3: It stayed at three and a half literally all week

582
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 3: until what eleven am.

583
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah today, Yeah, And that's.

584
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 3: Kind of games that make you sick because like, I

585
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: bet it, obviously I know you bet, And it's like

586
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 3: they came back a game we were dead, we were dead,

587
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 3: they were down fourteen with whatever that was five minutes

588
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,600
Speaker 3: to go, yeah, and we get that back to recover.

589
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 3: Those are the ones I'm like, damn, I wish we

590
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 3: had that win in because that's just that's so much fun.

591
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 3: I doubt most people listening to our show about that,

592
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 3: just because, like most people, you know, the Brian floor

593
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 3: Is aspect of that game was a little scary with

594
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: Kayleb Williams, but.

595
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: That's the reason we didn't we didn't put it in.

596
00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: I don't think.

597
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, Caleb Williams once again, whatever the

598
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: change has happened, you know, I think he went over

599
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: already at five scramble study at five rushes like he's

600
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 3: more comfortable running outside the pocket when he needs to,

601
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 3: and he's making big time throws, and you know, he

602
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 3: had a couple of big rookie moments when they really

603
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 3: couldn't afford it, and that overtime they lost it. But yeah,

604
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 3: that was a really fun cover having that gamelin on

605
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 3: a three, just because it's like everything that could have

606
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 3: gone wrong felt go starting going wrong for them, especially

607
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 3: when they had that muff punt.

608
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: You know, they muffed that punt.

609
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 3: The Lakings score right away, make it from seventeen to

610
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: ten game to a twenty four to ten game. It's like, okay,

611
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: that's a dead bet, and yeah that that Bears team.

612
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 3: I know you guys have had the wins chat, but

613
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 3: you guys have had hell of an exciting run.

614
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: Here these last four or five weeks.

615
00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 3: So uh yeah, painful life being a bet, but silver

616
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: lining is it feels like this is what the Lions

617
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 3: went through and they eventually turned it around.

618
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: So maybe this is just the beginning of something special. Chad.

619
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, except the Lions had Dan Campbell and we don't

620
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: know who. Maybe we'll get Ben Johnson.

621
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 3: Did you really were you about Dan Campbell when they

622
00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 3: had lost nine they started year zero to nine.

623
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Speaker 1: I love Dan Campbell. I was always in. I was

624
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 1: always on the game.

625
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: I thought he was a fucking idiot. I was like,

626
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 3: this is not gonna last once. They're a good team.

627
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: But I was always on the Campbell bandwagon from day one.

628
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 1: Never wavered. My god, man, you guys didn't bat an eye.

629
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: I love this freaking team.

630
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 2: I love the coaches, I love the players, I love

631
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: everything about it. Man, we are so freaking hardened even

632
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,719
Speaker 2: when she doesn't go the way we wanted to. Man,

633
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 2: you find a way.

634
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 1: The scariest game that Cowboys Commander's game. Four touchdowns in

635
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: the final three minutes. Four and a half minutes left

636
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: nine to cover the under clearly it went over. The

637
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: Commanders had two missed extra points, the Cowboys had a

638
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: special teams touchdown on the on side kick, and then

639
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: they had Kevon Turpin with a video game move on

640
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: a kickoff, like are you freaking kidding me. That was

641
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: I didn't bet the under or that total, but geez Louise,

642
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:20,720
Speaker 1: that was brutal if you did.

643
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I liked the under.

644
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 3: I like the under just because it was a really

645
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 3: nice spot of Washington off extended rests, playing against a

646
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 3: Cowboys team coming off a Monday night game, and it

647
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, both these teams I think are gonna

648
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 3: be sloppy, unprepared. It was three to three and a half.

649
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 3: I was feeling a really great about that under ticket,

650
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 3: but you just said it. Then football happened and all

651
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: these wonky crazy things happened. I think they scored like

652
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: you just had twenty eight points in the finals three

653
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 3: minutes of that fourth quarter, something crazy like that. And

654
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 3: uh yeah, Terry McLaurin that Jane Daniels touchdown, you thought, okay,

655
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: they'll go for two here, but dan Quinn did his

656
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 3: classic dan Quin thing went for the extra point, and

657
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 3: I'm so happy they missed it because I fucking hate him.

658
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,320
Speaker 3: I hate when they do that. It's like, I get it,

659
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 3: your guys might be a little tired because they just

660
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: ran the whole field. So was the defense, Like you

661
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 3: can't tell me that's not the spot to go for

662
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 3: two theres. So yeah, if you're a Cowboys fan, what

663
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 3: a great win, Like you didn't think, Yeah.

664
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: You thought this season was over.

665
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 3: I think they'd lost five straight up to this point.

666
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 3: You know, Rush had a good game and their defense

667
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 3: showed up, Like you know, Kingsbury, he was the hot

668
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 3: item to start the year, and now I don't know

669
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 3: if they're going to bring him back. Man, it seems

670
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: like his offense has been kind of figured out here

671
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 3: down these last couple of weeks.

672
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: Well, that's actually one of the reasons why I'm most

673
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 1: disappointed we didn't put the Cowboys in is because we

674
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: had a long conversation we identified Jaden daniels struggles the

675
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: past five weeks. He's just consistently gotten worse and worse,

676
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: to the point where when I mentioned Bo Nicks's Rookie

677
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: of the Year, Matt Mitchell wants to fight me. But

678
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: Jamee Daniels is just like that Terry McLaurin pass eighty

679
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: six yards untouched. That was miraculous. I don't know that

680
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: that makes him like any better. He was terrible in

681
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: this game. So like we're gonna have to have a

682
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 1: conversation about this. We're gonna have to have a conversation

683
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: about Rookie of the Year and his bow Nix in

684
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: his last four games doing completion percentage type numbers that

685
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: are similar to what Jadon Daniels did in his first

686
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: four games, and winning and actually getting better every game

687
00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: and winning in really challenging spots on the road against

688
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: the Raiders who always cover in this spot in the division. Like,

689
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: it's going to be a conversation. I want to see

690
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: those odds when we get to to Tuesday show. Who

691
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: impressed you this week? Because I want to talk about

692
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: some of the games.

693
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: I mean, you just talk about bow Nicks. I love Denver.

694
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 3: This week it was a sweat but they covered, and

695
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 3: it's just really about how great their offense and their

696
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 3: defense is playing, about how bad the Raiders have been playing.

697
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: And it literally played out that way right. The Raiders

698
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 2: needed a fake punt.

699
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: In a fifty yard return to kind of have the

700
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 3: lead early on, and Minshew eventually knew, we knew he

701
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: was gonna do it.

702
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 2: He threw a pick, kind of flipped the.

703
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 3: Whole game right, kind of gave the Denver what they

704
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 3: needed so them in Miami like this Miami team, you know,

705
00:34:27,320 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 3: to his numbers this year when you dive into it,

706
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 3: he's been like really good, especially since he's come back.

707
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: I know, it's amazing.

708
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're not playing against the best teams, but at

709
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 3: the same time, he's been putting up the stats and

710
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 3: like their offense is really a humming. And that was

711
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: another really terrible read. That New England team. You know,

712
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: I'll admit to it. I got sucked in just because

713
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: Drake May had such big moments cut last couple of weeks.

714
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,799
Speaker 3: He looked totally out of in this game. Yeah, like

715
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,160
Speaker 3: totally lost from the get go. So they're definitely a team.

716
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: You know, I wouldn't give props and a team that

717
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 3: you were on this week, I should say in Tennessee,

718
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 3: I still know what they are because their defense isn't

719
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 3: good and that was the whole reason you.

720
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 2: Kind of wanted to back them.

721
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know what to make of that team,

722
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: even more so now because like we just said, Will

723
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: Levis got dominated. But he is so good at pushing

724
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 3: the ball downfield, Like when he's going downfield and then

725
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 3: Pollard can run the ball.

726
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 2: It just seems like Tennessee can move the ball.

727
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 3: So they're just another team I really I have no

728
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 3: read on right now because it's like I kind of

729
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 3: wanted to take them this week and now I'm just

730
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 3: thinking to myself, it's like, then we just get away

731
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 3: with one backing on this past week.

732
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: Do we really have to try to back them again?

733
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: Well, here's the good news, Simon. Between Jade and Daniels

734
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: and Will Levis and Tennessee and Tua and Jordan Love,

735
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: We've talked about so many of the teams that I

736
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: wanted to digig on to get on for a week thirteam.

737
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk about a couple of things giving games quickly. Yeah,

738
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: Lions Bears in Detroit. Lions are ten and a half

739
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: point favorites right now. How do we not take them?

740
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

741
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,759
Speaker 3: And Evan's gonna give us some amazing stats this upcoming week.

742
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 3: But basically we talk every year. Thanksgiving is a very new,

743
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 3: unique day. It's a day where you basically just bet

744
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 3: the favorites. You try not to overthink it just because

745
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 3: historically the favorites cover. It's a weird trend, but it's

746
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 3: panned out over my life as a better It's like

747
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 3: I used to outthink it I used to be like, Okay,

748
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: I'm always gonna take the dogs. Usually my theory's it

749
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 3: stands true as day is I take all the favorites

750
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 3: unless it's the Cowboys.

751
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 2: I always fade the Cowboys.

752
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 3: Whatever the dog is, I take that dog, especially outright

753
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 3: and on the flip side, I always take the favorites.

754
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 2: Here we go, Thank you, my man.

755
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: Evan favorites of over ten points are nine to zero

756
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,399
Speaker 3: against the spread on Thanksgiving since two thousand and five

757
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 3: eleven and oh against the spreads.

758
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: It's a wildcard era. Wow. So that's what I mean, Like,

759
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 2: you don't you know me? I want to bet that

760
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: Bears team.

761
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 3: I would love to take time and a half fem

762
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 3: But on Thanksgiving you throw that stuff out.

763
00:36:57,920 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 2: It's a public holiday.

764
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: Like the books, they let you get fat eating food

765
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 3: and let your wilet's get fat.

766
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 2: Like, don't overthink it.

767
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 3: You simply fade the Cowboys on Thanksgiving and you take

768
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 3: all the other favorites.

769
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's the second game. So which is

770
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: Miami three and a half point dog visiting Green Bay,

771
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 1: Tua who looked amazing And I thought he looked amazing

772
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: today and shout out doctor Nick Giffen, who gave out

773
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 1: and convinced me this morning. The Dolphins team total over

774
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: twenty seven and a half. They practically covered it in

775
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: the first half. Tua, the ball handling, the accuracy, the comfort.

776
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 1: Like I always think back to that scene of Mike

777
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,800
Speaker 1: McDaniels when he was flying from San Francisco to Miami

778
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: on the private plane. He called to and told him

779
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: how good he was going to be in this offense. Yeah,

780
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 1: and he so nailed it. What a difference in this

781
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: team when Tua is playing. Kudos to them, but they

782
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: are historically terrible against good teams, historically terrible on the

783
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: road against good teams. I'm sure Evan has the metrics,

784
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:04,959
Speaker 1: and if he doesn't have him tonight in the chat,

785
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 1: then we'll talk about him on Tuesday. And this is

786
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 1: a This is not a great spot for them. As

787
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: much as I don't like Jordan Love, I feel like

788
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: we got to take the Packers.

789
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you just talk a little bit about it.

790
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,959
Speaker 3: It's like, this ain't down in Miami. This is gonna

791
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: be in what thirty degrees? Maybe I guess it's a

792
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 3: night game, So what twenty degrees at night in Lambeau

793
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: there's a reason they're giving you three and a half here, Chad, Yeah,

794
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,720
Speaker 3: I agree with your first glance.

795
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: It's like, why is this not two and a half?

796
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:38,399
Speaker 2: Like Green Bay?

797
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: The way these teams have been playing, I know I

798
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 3: wanted to be as I'm with you. I wanted to

799
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 3: be on two of here, but I just broke it down. People,

800
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: I don't ever think it. I take the home favorites here.

801
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: This is just the way it is. And once again

802
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 3: we're getting a nice, nice line here. So there's a

803
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 3: couple couple threes out there.

804
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 2: I grab that if you can.

805
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 3: Right now, I could just see all the books going

806
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 3: to three and a half on this one Black Friday.

807
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 1: There's four more games I want to discuss quickly, and

808
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: then I want to get to the ones you will

809
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: just so we.

810
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 3: Close out Thanksgiving Lions, I just want to talk more

811
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: Tuesday Lions, Giants and Green Bay.

812
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:12,399
Speaker 2: That's those are my bets right now.

813
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: Wow, Giants love it. Ballsy Ballsy Black Friday Raiders twelve

814
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: and a half at Kansas City. I'm taking it off

815
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 1: now because we don't know what's going on with Minshew.

816
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: I put it on the script in the script before

817
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: we knew what was going on with Minshew. I want

818
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: to take the Raiders in that spot. But if I

819
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,279
Speaker 1: don't know who the quarterback is, I'm a little bit

820
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: more skeptical.

821
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

822
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: If you have thoughts there, I.

823
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 3: Agree we're sticking to Oh Man, Minshew done for the season,

824
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 3: broken collar boone, he yikes. So you want me to

825
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,399
Speaker 3: take a O'Connell in Kansas City on a short week.

826
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: O'Connell's not going to be playing.

827
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 2: Oh right, it's ridd Jesus god, oh god.

828
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: That's what I mean. Of course, we want to take

829
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: the division.

830
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: To say, if you want to take the Raiders, wait

831
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 3: because if I'm a I like the Chiefs, you gotta

832
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 3: grab the Chiefs right now.

833
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 2: This is going up.

834
00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna it could get to two touchdowns, and

835
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: if it gets two touchdowns, maybe again. But that's really

836
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 1: about how the Chiefs play, not about the Raiders. Right.

837
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: We see it week in and week out. The Chiefs

838
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: are very conservative in the second half, and they like

839
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: to milk the clock. They don't care how much they

840
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: win by.

841
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: No, they're they're playing for January.

842
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, They're good enough to convert when they need to

843
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: and run the clock down. They're very conservative in the

844
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: second half. It's how the Panthers stayed in today. All Right,

845
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh plus two and a half at Cincinnati, Mike Tomlin

846
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: as a dog in the division on the road. Don't

847
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: overthink it, don't overthink it. Don't tell me no.

848
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 2: We can do it.

849
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 3: I'm just pissed we don't get the three sons of bitches.

850
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: The public is so out on the Bengals now because

851
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: you know, if they would have capped off that comeback

852
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 3: against the Chargers pittsburghloss like they did, We're getting three

853
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 3: and a half here, no problem.

854
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 2: We're getting three and a half on this number. So

855
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I'll take it. But let's hope, let's

856
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: hope we get to a three on this one.

857
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 3: That would be so nice in this matchup, because I

858
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 3: just feel like this is going to be that classic

859
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 3: game comes down to a field goal either side, right,

860
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 3: I mean.

861
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 1: We're not getting three in this game. It's already down

862
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: to two in some places.

863
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

864
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 3: No, it makes sense again, the NFC North, they've been

865
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 3: good to us. We've just literally just been betting the

866
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 3: dog in this division. I think they're hitting out like

867
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 3: a sixty percent clip this season.

868
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: So North, all right, I'm gonna throw it at you.

869
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 1: I'm upset we didn't fade Washington this week, and maybe

870
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: that's influencing my decision making. I'm upset we didn't play

871
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:45,760
Speaker 1: Tennessee this week. It's almost like the NFL schedule they knew,

872
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: they knew come Thanksgiving weekend they were going to have

873
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,720
Speaker 1: a game that is going to play with the psyche

874
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: of betters in a way that tortures them all through

875
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: the week. Tennessee is a seven and a half point

876
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: dog at Washington right now. I think Washington's defense it's

877
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: not very good. I think Jane Daniels has been struggling.

878
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:15,760
Speaker 1: I think interior pressure causes problems for him. Brian Robinson

879
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: got banged up in this game. I don't want to

880
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: do it. Tell me not to do it, and tell

881
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: me why.

882
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 2: I would say, dude, if you can get the seven,

883
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 2: because I'm seeing almost all books are down to six.

884
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:34,200
Speaker 2: So seriously, yeah, you're on the professional side right now.

885
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 2: The pros agree with you, which again makes sense.

886
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 3: We've just talked about like that something's wrong with Washington

887
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 3: right now, but betting Tennessee, I don't know.

888
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,840
Speaker 2: What I'm betting on. I'm just simply betting the number.

889
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 2: That's all I know.

890
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 3: At Tennessee right now, like that will let us to

891
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: carry you to these covers right now is literally.

892
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: Rushing That line moved a full point through a key

893
00:42:56,120 --> 00:43:00,360
Speaker 1: number since we've been on the air. Yeah, because I

894
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: checked this right before we came on the air. Wow,

895
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:09,759
Speaker 1: that's super frustrating. Goshdarn the almost holiday movie signed movie time?

896
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: Do you know what movie that's from?

897
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 2: Christmas Vacation?

898
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 1: Nice? I think that was before you were born. And

899
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: you know it.

900
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got VHS.

901
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:24,719
Speaker 1: Chess, Jesus Christ Carolina plus six and a half at

902
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Done book it, Let's go.

903
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 2: I know we have to go. They know. That was

904
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 2: the line that jumped out to me too, where it's like,

905
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: you know, some books open at seven, some books opened

906
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 2: at six. Six and a half. Six feels right, That

907
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 2: feels like where this line should be.

908
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: Because Tampa is I mean, we talked about they're like

909
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: the most complete team, no doubt in that division.

910
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 2: Like they're they've just been unlucky.

911
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:52,080
Speaker 3: They lost those two games to Atlanta and games in

912
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: which they easily could have won, didn't break their way.

913
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 2: They're just so well coached.

914
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 3: You know, not that I I hope they're gonna lose today,

915
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 3: but everything about today was like they might look over

916
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 3: this Giants team and not really take them serious. They

917
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 3: came out there and just beat their ship out go

918
00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 3: seventeen nothing like that.

919
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were not fucking around.

920
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 3: And you know Mike Evans back, you see immediately how

921
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 3: big of a difference it mix that offense where it's

922
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 3: like he can just get you that five six yards

923
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: anytime you really need it.

924
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 2: And we've seen it now.

925
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 3: Bucky Irving, he's coming and really reshaped that team's running style.

926
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 2: He just runs so hard.

927
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 3: You know, it's just been so impressive watch him as

928
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,919
Speaker 3: a rookie get better every week. And you know, Todd

929
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 3: Bowles is old school, he's still giving you know, I

930
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 3: think it's white.

931
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 2: They're number one a lot of touches.

932
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: But you know, Bucky Tommy, he's the he's the game

933
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: changer right now on that offense, like him with Baker

934
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: Mike Evans, like that's that's a really good offense right now.

935
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,959
Speaker 3: And you know this Carolina team, we just talked about

936
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 3: it there. Their defense is bad, like teams are always

937
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 3: be able to move the ball on that The key

938
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: is for us with them, what type of rights young

939
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 3: we get in that day and when he's on this

940
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 3: offense is click. And then well they're what three straight covers?

941
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, straight two wins, three covers.

942
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: They turned it around, they turn around and.

943
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: Like this is a big favorite in a division game,

944
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 1: and so they're gonna be on the road.

945
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,120
Speaker 3: And then one more before we go. Just this, this

946
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: to me is like the stinkiest, funkiest line of the week.

947
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 3: Saints plus two and a half at home against this

948
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 3: Rams team. I told you I think the Rams are

949
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 3: gonna win tonight. So it's like, I'm not a rush

950
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: to bet this one, but i promise you me and

951
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 3: Chad gonna be on the Saints. Yeah yeah, Like that's

952
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 3: not that I like the match up for them, because

953
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 3: I've we've already seen how that Saints team is gonna be. Now,

954
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 3: like they're gonna be our run heavy team, which I love.

955
00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: But if if the Rams went tonight, this will be

956
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 3: a perfect spot to sell on this team.

957
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: Well, look, there's a lot of games we can discuss.

958
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 1: The forty nine ers or six and a half point

959
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: Dogs on the road at the bills. We don't know

960
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,399
Speaker 1: the status of anybody for that game. We've heard brock

961
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 1: Perty is going to play a lot to talk about

962
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 1: next week. Super excited to unpack all of it. We

963
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: got the rams tonight. Even though Simon and I are

964
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,360
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965
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:27,120
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966
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:29,319
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