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Speaker 1: Motherfucking Mini ever Sel Mini episode. Motherfucking Mini ever Sel.

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Speaker 2: I'll give you the red light spat show all through

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Speaker 2: the night.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, Little Mamas and gentiles alike to another episode

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Speaker 3: of My Mama Told Me.

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Speaker 4: The podcast when we dive deep, deep into the fucking

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Speaker 4: of black conspiracy theories.

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Speaker 3: And we primally worked, we finally I can talk, and

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Speaker 3: we finally and we finally worked to prove the theories

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Speaker 3: of you, the listeners, the little mamas. That's what you're called,

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Speaker 3: forever and ever now, whether or not you like it,

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Speaker 3: your lip classes, popping your lip class is cool.

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Speaker 4: I'm walking up to grown men and identifying you as

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Speaker 4: little that show, so take it.

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Speaker 3: I've had a few people identify themselves as little Mamas,

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Speaker 3: and I appreciate it. It's nice.

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Speaker 4: It's really nice. It's pretty dope.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of people, I want to say a shout out.

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Speaker 3: So they came to our Chicago show and then they

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Speaker 3: doubled back and came to see me in Minneapolis. Bro.

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Speaker 3: They brought me. They brought me a seafood pop pie

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Speaker 3: whoa crab and shrimp in the top cheddar Bay biscuits.

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Speaker 4: WHOA, yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: It was so shadow.

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Speaker 4: I know you could do that.

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Speaker 3: It's I it's a new genre. I it's a new genre.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: Seafood pop pie was a thing first and foremost. I

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Speaker 4: thought it was strictly chicken or beef.

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Speaker 3: I didn't know.

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Speaker 4: And then to advance that a step further and make

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Speaker 4: it cheddar bay biscuit crust is that's nuts. They living

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Speaker 4: in the future.

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Speaker 3: I think it was the best it was. I think

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Speaker 3: it was the best plate thing I got. Bro, this

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Speaker 3: is embarrassing. I got back to the hotel. I didn't

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Speaker 3: even have a I have a fork because it was

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Speaker 3: like a le. So this is bad. This is bad.

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Speaker 3: You know how they you know how they have the

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Speaker 3: notepad in the hotel sometimes they have a notepad. I

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Speaker 3: pulled all the paper off of it so it was

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Speaker 3: just the cardboard at the cardboard in half, and then

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Speaker 3: I folded it in half the long way, and then

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Speaker 3: I used it to.

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Speaker 4: Scoof Well, I'll say two things. Number One, I was

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Speaker 4: scared you're gonna be like so I ate that pie

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Speaker 4: like Yogi bear. No, it was gonna make me fucking

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Speaker 4: said no. And then as you were describing what you made,

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Speaker 4: and it was like, Oh no, he's going to roll

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Speaker 4: it into like a funnel and then like scoop it

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Speaker 4: like a like he's pouring it in like a pixie stick.

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Speaker 3: And that's a serious question. What do you think of me?

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Speaker 4: This isn't a reflection of you. It's more just where

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Speaker 4: my imagination goes. Motherfucker's talk.

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Speaker 3: Okay, okay, yeah, both those would be so so bad.

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Speaker 4: No, it was you wrink a pot pie like a

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Speaker 4: straw through the back of a fucking post it noteboard.

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Speaker 3: That's pretty funny. Yeah, yeah, no, I wouldn't have told you.

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Speaker 3: If that would have it would have been what happen?

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Speaker 4: Yeah no, And I thank you for keeping some things private.

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Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. No, there's got to be a level

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Speaker 3: of you know, my life is my life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, we get to this email.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we got an email today. I'm very excited about it.

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Speaker 3: It's from mail.

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Speaker 4: You ready for this, Yeah, I'm ready?

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Speaker 3: All right. The subject line is Drake is not a

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Speaker 3: rapper dot dot dot he is an actor.

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Speaker 4: Already very aggressive right from the start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, already intrigued. All right, Hello Jans, that's a decent address.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for reading my last email. Appreciate you both trying

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Speaker 3: to elevate our collective consciousness on time. Even if you

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Speaker 3: both disagreed with my universal truth. Disagreed sounds like the

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Speaker 3: truth is a universal one man.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like two niggas in the universe you listen to.

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Speaker 3: Onto the business at hand. I've held this thought for

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Speaker 3: quite some time that Drake is not an actual rapper.

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Speaker 3: He is actually a method actor creating the longest running

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Speaker 3: performance art installation in history. WHOA. I did not have

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Speaker 3: strong evidence of this until a recent kerfuffle he had

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Speaker 3: with a clairvoyant who goes by the name Joe Budden. Dude,

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Speaker 3: let me just get through the email first. Yeah, until

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Speaker 3: a recent with a clairevoyant who goes by the name

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Speaker 3: of Ji Budden. I'm not sure if you are familiar

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Speaker 3: with his predictions. He had one on dj Envy.

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Speaker 4: You really are struggling here, and that Joe button be

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Speaker 4: right sometimes you don't even want that for him at all.

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Speaker 3: Broken clock is right twice a day. I did not

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Speaker 3: have strong evidence of this, and the sun even shines

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Speaker 3: on the dog's ass. I did not have no. I

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Speaker 3: don't know why I'm cleming so aggressive. I actually really

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Speaker 3: like Joe Budden. I've always been a fan of his music.

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Speaker 4: He's an interesting character.

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Speaker 3: I like sad guys stuff. Well listen, so here we go. Drake,

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Speaker 3: who normally does not respond to critics, was incensed when

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Speaker 3: Joe Budden gave a negative critique of his latest album,

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Speaker 3: which was objectively sonically displeasing to most people. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 3: Drake's anger was not a result of Drake believing he

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Speaker 3: makes good music and was hurt by those comments.

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Speaker 4: Nay nay, I say, oh, boy, really makes you regret

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Speaker 4: reading this email?

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Speaker 3: Huh because I got it? Naynay I say it was

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Speaker 3: because Joe had dared to parse his lips, lips that

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Speaker 3: have only uttered one hit, Pump It Up, and frankly

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Speaker 3: just blazed at the heavy lifting on that track. I digress.

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Speaker 3: I do not want to get distracted from the point

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Speaker 3: it was that Joe was onto the way Drake makes music.

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Speaker 3: Drake's music is not from the heart. Rather, it is

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Speaker 3: movie storytelling, very similar to the Fast and Furious movies.

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Speaker 3: Fantastical featuring characters that are telling stories they didn't kind

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Speaker 3: of like an actor. Also, how is it that Drake

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Speaker 3: has never acted in anything since The Grassi. One might

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Speaker 3: say he has been acting this whole time. Whoa you

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Speaker 3: both are destined to make it as your initial spell.

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Speaker 3: Good luck, amazing job on the pod. Keep up the

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Speaker 3: great work. G Bori Oo d David Langston Oh okay, Kerman,

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Speaker 3: good look.

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Speaker 4: But okay, there's a lot to unpack here.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot to unpack here.

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Speaker 4: There's the suggestion of Drake being not in fact a

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Speaker 4: real artist and more just a manufacturer of music as

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Speaker 4: a performance art piece. And I don't know that I

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Speaker 4: think of Drake as in any way that kind of

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Speaker 4: artist right even remotely, as like it. I don't think

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Speaker 4: he's ever been art like even kind of underground version

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Speaker 4: of what art could be, or like high end thoughtful pieces.

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Speaker 4: He's like, he's the art that everybody likes. That it's

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Speaker 3: I think so? I think I think for the most part,

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Speaker 3: Drake is living in his truth. I think he I

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Speaker 3: think the things that he talks about is stuff that

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Speaker 3: is like I don't I don't think there's a lot. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, obviously sometimes some of the like gangster bars

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Speaker 3: of this ship, he says, is really what he's doing,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I do, I don't don't.

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Speaker 4: It's just him fussing at women exactly.

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Speaker 3: That's why. That's that's why I'm like, this is pretty realistic,

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Speaker 3: even when you hear him talk about like, yeah, I've

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Speaker 3: so like it's just like, I don't the things he's

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Speaker 3: this is what I think people relate to, if they

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Speaker 3: were fantastical, they would sound like other rappers who you

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Speaker 4: It's like the Nas shit. People are constantly saying Nas

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Speaker 4: didn't live the life that he raps about whatever. But

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Speaker 4: Drake is like, Yeah, I just ate a lady out

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Speaker 4: and then I decided I didn't want to call her

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Speaker 4: no more, so I'm gonna make a song about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I spent a bunch of money on her and

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Speaker 3: then she still doesn't like me, and I got hurt

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Speaker 3: by that. Like, you know what I mean, the things

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Speaker 3: he's the thing, so the things that he's speaking to.

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Speaker 3: I don't think are so are so overblown that they

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think when I think about some of

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Speaker 4: Joe Budden of it all, I think one of the

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Speaker 4: things I remember seeing in this Joe Butden controversy was

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Speaker 4: that it wasn't that Drake was upset that he critiqued

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Speaker 4: he's mostly upset, and this is more Drake's words than anything.

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Speaker 4: Says that he's upset because Joe Budden was calling out

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Speaker 4: out that he's spending all this time with like these

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Speaker 4: Budden saying he needs to stop dating twenty five year

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Speaker 4: sound more appropriate and also better.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 3: I think also there's a level of like. I think

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Speaker 3: it's all pretty clear that Joe Budden was a major

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Speaker 3: it's that level of like. At two brutus, like of

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Speaker 3: what I mean, because Joe Buden seems to be historically

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Speaker 4: I was about saying, and somebody on Twitter pointed this out,

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Speaker 4: specific takes. Somebody pointed out that Joe Budden has been

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Speaker 4: Like he he rarely says negative critiques of Drake's shit,

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Speaker 4: and even when he does, it's a lot of him

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Speaker 4: being like Nigga. I hope, I hope he can keep

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Speaker 4: the magic going because he's so fucking unbeatable at this game.

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Speaker 4: More than it is him being like, oh, this Nigga's whack.

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Speaker 4: We shouldn't be listening. He's like a big fan, so

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Speaker 4: for him to be like this is whack. It's not

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Speaker 4: not coming from like a genuine disappointment more than like

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Speaker 4: I'm just fucking with you to fuck with you shit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I think Drake, I think it just

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Speaker 3: to speak to your point earlier, Yeah, man, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's that type of artist. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: don't think he's concerned with art in that way. Neither

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Speaker 3: of the most anybody no rapper or not no rapper,

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Speaker 3: but not the ones that we talk about frequently. Is

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Speaker 3: that you know what I mean? Yeah, Drake sells hit records.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think even if they if this

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Speaker 4: that of him being like, well, you can see him

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Speaker 4: seeing himself as that kind of artist, even if I

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Speaker 4: him choosing music as sort of like this performance art

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Speaker 4: three decades and whatever the fuck. But Drake's just a

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Speaker 3: And I think so, man, I think that's okay. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're way older than Drake too, you know what I.

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Speaker 3: It's just me.

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't it be crazy if famous comedians now had that feeling?

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Speaker 3: Hundred percent because I like. The thing I liked about

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Speaker 3: And not for nothing, I think I'm a ripper, you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that, like truly those butter the the shift from

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Speaker 3: I think that's why it's like hard for people to

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Speaker 5: Hopefully we figure out what that feels like one day.

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Speaker 4: I say all that to say I think Drake, to

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Speaker 3: And I think that's the difficult thing about this, right

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Speaker 3: It's like you're gonna always love your kids. You can

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Speaker 3: And to be very he might be bad. I think

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Speaker 4: I think he's a way better rapper than he was

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Speaker 3: That's said space for him. But this is what he does,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because we're still in it. We're still in even

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Speaker 4: And we still see too many of the gods present

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Speaker 4: like nas it got dreads now, like everybody's still fucking music, yeah,

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Speaker 4: and everybody's present, and so it's hard to be like, no,

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Speaker 3: Youth already are. Yeah, think about it. If you're twenty five,

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Speaker 4: What I mean, who else is your favorite.

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Speaker 3: Since you were a kid? That's like Michael Jackson was

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Speaker 4: Somebody says cool Mode and you're like, oh what, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what is a rock him? Like it doesn't they don't,

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Speaker 3: that's just how that shit goes. Bro.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think you know, there's no art form

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Speaker 4: I just don't believe in none of that bullshit where

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Speaker 4: It's not there are Jurassic Park is better than Citizen Kane.

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Speaker 3: It just is.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't now if you want to talk about it

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Speaker 3: Do you not think Citizens Sane is great?

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Speaker 4: I don't have any appreciation for it, And part of

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Speaker 4: But I fucking.

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Speaker 3: Are there any old movies that you think are great? Like?

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Speaker 4: I don't think that they suck. I just don't think

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Speaker 4: I'm being completely honest, I laugh as hard at Prior

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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? It's not that.

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Speaker 4: I'm too far past what this art used to look

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Speaker 4: I can appreci sha the way this motherfucker's moving at

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Speaker 4: his best, not at his latest.

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Speaker 3: I also, and not to drag this conversation out too long,

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Speaker 3: I also think that stand up is maybe a lot

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Speaker 3: more timely than most art forms, so that that that

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Speaker 3: becomes the difficulty in it. Like there's stuff, some stuff

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Speaker 3: is just of the time. We're never gonna understand how

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Speaker 3: funny Dice Clay was when you hadn't seen anything like

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Speaker 3: that in eighty six.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you didn't have any rules in your head

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Speaker 4: about what cannon cannot be said.

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Speaker 3: Or even what comedy is or whatever it is. Just

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Speaker 3: a dude talking you. So it's like and we can't

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Speaker 3: and and just like and even even now, you know

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Speaker 3: what I mean, it's like nobody to me at least,

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Speaker 3: who's who. Nobody's ever gonna be funnier if you weren't there,

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Speaker 3: then you don't know how huge elephant in the room

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Speaker 3: was and why I personally think he's the best of

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Speaker 3: all time, you know what I mean. So it's just

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Speaker 3: like so much of it is attached to time with

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Speaker 3: stand up and and like you have to know like

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Speaker 3: social how society was going at the time and shit

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Speaker 3: like that. So it's like that's why I think it's different.

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Speaker 3: But that but that's why you're right. That's why you're right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think if we extend it beyond stand up,

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Speaker 4: because I do agree with you, it's more timely than

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Speaker 4: most art forms. But like even the ones that are

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Speaker 4: less timely still suffer from the same thing.

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Speaker 3: I e.

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Speaker 4: Films, I e. Music, I even fucking painting, do you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like fucking Leonardo da Vinci can't

466
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Speaker 4: make Coco, Like he just can't.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about music though, man. I went to

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Speaker 3: the Symphony for the first time this year and it's

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Speaker 3: like seeing it in the hall, the concert hall, where

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Speaker 3: the acoustics are what it's supposed to be, and like

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Speaker 3: hearing it all like yeah, the sound of ten violins

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Speaker 3: it wants and shit like that. I think it's his.

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Speaker 3: I think it rivals any music that anybody's making.

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Speaker 1: That.

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Speaker 3: Wow, I really, I really do feel that way, like

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Speaker 3: the idea of being moved or whatever.

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Speaker 4: Well, our next guess, Sexy Red is gonna have few

478
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Speaker 4: things to say about that. She is not gonna care

479
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Speaker 4: for that. Take one, bitch, bitch, she makes the best

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Speaker 4: music you know. Listen, there was due to a feces

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Speaker 4: thrown all over the walls, the floor, the ceiling, and

482
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Speaker 4: a stunk so bad.

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Speaker 3: I just wanted to do that because I feel like

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Speaker 3: we got further under the pretentious art conversation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but I do think it's important, and as it

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Speaker 4: relates to this conspiracy theory, I think largely it seems

487
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Speaker 4: like you and I agree that while Drake is a

488
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Speaker 4: pretty phenomenal artist, he ain't a art for art's sake,

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Speaker 4: ass dude, and probably does not have the ability or

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Speaker 4: foresight to uh to be able to pull this little

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Speaker 4: number off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's okay, because neither am I, nor do I,

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Speaker 3: So I don't really you'll know gad about it.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not seeking out that artist at all. And

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Speaker 4: so yeah, I'm grateful that Drake exists, like yeah, to

496
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Speaker 4: give me just that sweet commercial music I've been craving

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Speaker 4: my whole life.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it tastes good.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great, I think we did it. I think that

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Speaker 4: that covers that you want to tell the people where

501
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Speaker 4: they can find you and what cool shit you have

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Speaker 4: going on.

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Speaker 3: Cool guy joke eighty seven on Instagram. Not really on

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Speaker 3: tour right now, but I got you know, dates here

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Speaker 3: and there. If you followed me on ig I will

506
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 3: you know, I update local shows and stuff like that,

507
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 3: and then you know, follow the YouTube like and subscribe,

508
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 3: rate and comment. All that stuff definitely helps us out. Oh,

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Speaker 3: I do want to say we are in talks about

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Speaker 3: figuring out this Harmonica numb chuck thing. We have not

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Speaker 3: forgotten stop DM me.

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Speaker 4: No, we owe you guys, and we're not unaware, but

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00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 4: we are afraid and ashamed that this is what our

514
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 4: position to been sunk to. And if you want to

515
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 4: follow me and and complain to me personally, you can

516
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,919
Speaker 4: send it all to You can follow me at Langston

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Speaker 4: Herman and oh, November tenth and eleventh, I'll be at

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Speaker 4: the Vermont Comedy Club up there, and I think it's

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Speaker 4: Bloomington Vermont, is that right? I don't know Burlington there

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Speaker 4: you go, don't work. I nudge them Burlington Vermont.

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Speaker 3: And then.

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Speaker 4: Oh, the next week I'll be in Dallas, Texas at

523
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Speaker 4: Hyena's Comedy Club. And then if you want to send

524
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Speaker 4: us your own drops, your own conspiracy theories, if you

525
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,520
Speaker 4: want to tell us that you have definitive proof of

526
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 4: Drake's intent to scam us through art, send it all

527
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Speaker 4: to my Mama pod at gmail dot com. We would

528
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: love to hear from you, like subscribe, do the shit,

529
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 4: don't make us ask you again.

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Speaker 3: Bye, bitch.

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Speaker 1: Well the fucking mini yev SE mini episode, well, the

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Speaker 1: fucking mini episode. Well, the fucking mini episode Minnie episode

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