1 00:00:11,657 --> 00:00:14,937 Speaker 1: You're listening to The Buck Sexton Show podcast, make sure 2 00:00:14,937 --> 00:00:17,977 Speaker 1: you subscribe to the podcast on the iHeartRadio app or 3 00:00:17,977 --> 00:00:27,657 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to hold the line. 4 00:00:27,657 --> 00:00:32,457 Speaker 1: I'm Buck Sexton. The crime situation in America continues to deteriorate, 5 00:00:32,537 --> 00:00:37,657 Speaker 1: and it is directly attributable to progressive prosecutors, the BLM movement, 6 00:00:37,817 --> 00:00:43,857 Speaker 1: the Democrats overall move toward being soft on crime to 7 00:00:43,977 --> 00:00:47,417 Speaker 1: effectively decriminalize a whole range of crimes. And we are 8 00:00:47,417 --> 00:00:51,097 Speaker 1: now seeing mounting evidence, as if we didn't have enough already, 9 00:00:51,457 --> 00:00:54,497 Speaker 1: of just how catastrophic this is. Coast to coast and 10 00:00:54,617 --> 00:00:59,697 Speaker 1: all around the country. For one thing, the twenty twenty 11 00:00:59,697 --> 00:01:02,497 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty one crime surge and folved a thirty 12 00:01:02,497 --> 00:01:06,377 Speaker 1: percent national increase in homicide. But if you look year 13 00:01:06,497 --> 00:01:09,377 Speaker 1: over year, six months into this point, what you find 14 00:01:09,537 --> 00:01:12,937 Speaker 1: is that we are still not only at record high 15 00:01:13,017 --> 00:01:16,097 Speaker 1: levels of crime nationally. There are a number of cities, 16 00:01:16,577 --> 00:01:18,697 Speaker 1: they're all in the hands of Democrat, they all have 17 00:01:18,817 --> 00:01:23,457 Speaker 1: progressive prosecutors, they are a function of and a province 18 00:01:23,617 --> 00:01:30,017 Speaker 1: of Democrat governance, and thinking they actually have worse crime 19 00:01:30,137 --> 00:01:34,217 Speaker 1: year over year to last year, which was a catastrophically 20 00:01:34,257 --> 00:01:37,217 Speaker 1: bad year for them. Baltimore. This is from Fox News. Baltimore, 21 00:01:37,257 --> 00:01:41,297 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Washington, DC, Atlanta, and New York City 22 00:01:41,537 --> 00:01:43,777 Speaker 1: are all on pace to break their twenty twenty one 23 00:01:43,857 --> 00:01:46,857 Speaker 1: levels of violent crime halfway through this year. The nation's 24 00:01:46,977 --> 00:01:50,257 Speaker 1: largest city, leading the group Coordiny crime data compiled by 25 00:01:50,297 --> 00:01:53,417 Speaker 1: Fox News, New York City has seen a twenty five 26 00:01:53,417 --> 00:01:56,537 Speaker 1: percent jump in violent crime at this point in twenty 27 00:01:56,577 --> 00:01:59,617 Speaker 1: twenty two, six months in compared at the same time 28 00:01:59,617 --> 00:02:03,417 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, despite seeing a small decreasing the 29 00:02:03,417 --> 00:02:06,417 Speaker 1: amount of homicides recorded in the city. So violence and 30 00:02:06,617 --> 00:02:12,577 Speaker 1: lawlessness on the rise, and again in cities where democrats 31 00:02:12,617 --> 00:02:17,297 Speaker 1: just a few years ago we're touting their new no 32 00:02:17,617 --> 00:02:24,537 Speaker 1: cash bail policies, their lower prosecution rates and lower incarceration 33 00:02:24,657 --> 00:02:28,257 Speaker 1: rates for criminal offenders. Well, now we see what the 34 00:02:28,297 --> 00:02:31,577 Speaker 1: results of this are, and it's predictable and it's tragic. 35 00:02:32,217 --> 00:02:35,137 Speaker 1: Now there has to be accountability. Here's just to give 36 00:02:35,137 --> 00:02:36,777 Speaker 1: you a sense of some of the increases. Remember these 37 00:02:36,777 --> 00:02:40,177 Speaker 1: are year over year increases from twenty twenty one, which 38 00:02:40,217 --> 00:02:43,337 Speaker 1: is one of the worst years ever for violent crime, 39 00:02:43,497 --> 00:02:47,177 Speaker 1: at least in let's say thirty or forty years in America. 40 00:02:47,377 --> 00:02:50,137 Speaker 1: Atlanta is up five point five percent year over year, 41 00:02:50,177 --> 00:02:54,457 Speaker 1: Baltimore six percent, Philadelphia seven Los Angeles eight percent, Washing 42 00:02:54,537 --> 00:02:59,017 Speaker 1: DC twelve percent, New York City twenty five percent. Now 43 00:02:59,057 --> 00:03:03,057 Speaker 1: this is a particularly big problem. This is particularly a 44 00:03:03,057 --> 00:03:05,857 Speaker 1: big challenge for the city to explain because they have 45 00:03:05,897 --> 00:03:10,937 Speaker 1: a new mayor right here, they are looking at this situation. 46 00:03:10,937 --> 00:03:13,697 Speaker 1: Look at the circumstance where they the people of New 47 00:03:13,777 --> 00:03:20,497 Speaker 1: York elected a former police captain to become the mayor 48 00:03:20,537 --> 00:03:22,337 Speaker 1: of New York City so that he could crack down 49 00:03:22,377 --> 00:03:27,257 Speaker 1: on violent crime. And sure enough, it is actually going 50 00:03:27,417 --> 00:03:31,977 Speaker 1: in the opposite direction. And this is also for Fox News. 51 00:03:32,017 --> 00:03:37,097 Speaker 1: Los Angeles, Washington, DC, Baltimore, Milwaukee, and Atlanta have all 52 00:03:37,137 --> 00:03:40,497 Speaker 1: seen homicide numbers outpaced their mark in twenty twenty one, 53 00:03:41,017 --> 00:03:43,457 Speaker 1: Milwaukee seeing the largest spike of the group, according to 54 00:03:43,537 --> 00:03:47,937 Speaker 1: crime data. So this is now specifically on homicide. You 55 00:03:48,017 --> 00:03:52,857 Speaker 1: have Los Angeles, DC, Baltimore, Milwaukee, Atlanta more murders this year. 56 00:03:53,537 --> 00:03:56,377 Speaker 1: Now I understand you look at this data and you say, well, 57 00:03:56,417 --> 00:03:58,777 Speaker 1: this is just a procious and everybody can understand that. 58 00:03:58,777 --> 00:04:03,297 Speaker 1: Everybody can see what an outrage this is. So how 59 00:04:03,337 --> 00:04:06,097 Speaker 1: do we change it well. One way to change it 60 00:04:06,137 --> 00:04:13,497 Speaker 1: would be to stop instituting maniacally reckless policies at the 61 00:04:14,617 --> 00:04:20,777 Speaker 1: level of city y police department policy, mayoral offices, prosecutors' offices. 62 00:04:21,097 --> 00:04:24,817 Speaker 1: Here's an example. The Chicago Police Department has unveiled a 63 00:04:24,897 --> 00:04:28,817 Speaker 1: new policy prohibiting its officers from chasing people on foot 64 00:04:28,857 --> 00:04:31,737 Speaker 1: simply because they run away or because they have committed 65 00:04:31,777 --> 00:04:39,057 Speaker 1: minor offenses. So now, if a officer in Chicago see someone, 66 00:04:39,137 --> 00:04:43,297 Speaker 1: let's say, steal a purse from somebody or run out 67 00:04:43,297 --> 00:04:45,737 Speaker 1: of a store with a bagfull of stolen goods, it 68 00:04:45,897 --> 00:04:49,577 Speaker 1: is now official policy, as it seems, from the City 69 00:04:49,617 --> 00:04:51,817 Speaker 1: of Chicago, that that officer should not give chase. And 70 00:04:51,857 --> 00:04:54,777 Speaker 1: by the way, even if under the rules and regulations, 71 00:04:55,177 --> 00:04:58,377 Speaker 1: the officer could justify giving chase, would he or she 72 00:04:59,177 --> 00:05:02,537 Speaker 1: want to knowing that that chase could result in a 73 00:05:02,577 --> 00:05:06,297 Speaker 1: physical altercation of some kind, and that if the basis 74 00:05:06,337 --> 00:05:10,777 Speaker 1: for the chase was ruled invalid under departmental regulation, there's 75 00:05:10,817 --> 00:05:14,937 Speaker 1: always the possibility of some kind of discipline being meted 76 00:05:14,977 --> 00:05:18,377 Speaker 1: out really, of course, for political reasons against that officer. 77 00:05:18,697 --> 00:05:22,177 Speaker 1: So what do you have. You have fewer people who 78 00:05:22,217 --> 00:05:25,737 Speaker 1: are carrying a badge and a gun in Chicago. And 79 00:05:25,897 --> 00:05:28,217 Speaker 1: this is true in so many cities who are willing 80 00:05:28,297 --> 00:05:34,657 Speaker 1: to do aggressive, effective policing against the criminal element that 81 00:05:34,737 --> 00:05:38,457 Speaker 1: exists in every society and that unfortunately has been emboldened 82 00:05:38,497 --> 00:05:41,937 Speaker 1: so much in hours. But there are some, I mean, 83 00:05:41,977 --> 00:05:46,537 Speaker 1: here's the Chicago Police superintendent who says that the foot 84 00:05:46,577 --> 00:05:50,737 Speaker 1: pursuit policy makes officers and the community safer. Why And 85 00:05:50,777 --> 00:05:52,937 Speaker 1: I just want to add as an overview for pursuit 86 00:05:52,977 --> 00:05:56,297 Speaker 1: policies have been part of law enforces over a decade now. 87 00:05:57,257 --> 00:06:01,097 Speaker 1: Just because Chicaglo PD is now implementing a permanent when 88 00:06:01,537 --> 00:06:04,017 Speaker 1: the impacts on crime has been studied and we can 89 00:06:04,137 --> 00:06:07,377 Speaker 1: look back at foot pursuit policies, it's made officers safer 90 00:06:07,657 --> 00:06:10,777 Speaker 1: and it's made the community safer in cities that's implementing 91 00:06:10,777 --> 00:06:13,817 Speaker 1: this so for a decade. So the expectation for us is, 92 00:06:14,617 --> 00:06:17,617 Speaker 1: like Bob mentioned, what we're learned and be informed by 93 00:06:17,617 --> 00:06:22,017 Speaker 1: our documentation and review of how to continue to enhance 94 00:06:22,097 --> 00:06:25,937 Speaker 1: officers safety as well as enhanced safety of our residents. 95 00:06:28,217 --> 00:06:30,337 Speaker 1: Fascinating that someone could say that and think that it 96 00:06:30,417 --> 00:06:35,577 Speaker 1: doesn't sound utterly moronic. How does it make the city safer? 97 00:06:35,977 --> 00:06:41,497 Speaker 1: It may reduce officer involved officer involved altercations, of course, 98 00:06:41,537 --> 00:06:44,897 Speaker 1: because they're not enforcing the law. But what does that 99 00:06:45,017 --> 00:06:47,337 Speaker 1: do to the law in the city. What does it 100 00:06:47,457 --> 00:06:51,737 Speaker 1: do to criminality? What happens with those who are now 101 00:06:51,777 --> 00:06:53,777 Speaker 1: emboldened to break the law more than every because they 102 00:06:53,817 --> 00:06:56,697 Speaker 1: know they won't be chased. What we've seen is actually 103 00:06:56,737 --> 00:07:00,577 Speaker 1: these cities deteriorating from a safety perspective. What we've seen 104 00:07:00,697 --> 00:07:03,497 Speaker 1: is a massive increase in lawlessness. He's gonna say there's 105 00:07:03,537 --> 00:07:07,657 Speaker 1: a foot patrol policy that is provably better, just absurd. 106 00:07:07,737 --> 00:07:11,857 Speaker 1: It's just a stupid thing to say, and yet he 107 00:07:11,897 --> 00:07:14,697 Speaker 1: says it and people are going to go along with it. 108 00:07:14,737 --> 00:07:17,297 Speaker 1: You have to wonder, of course, there was a high 109 00:07:17,297 --> 00:07:22,257 Speaker 1: profile chase that did involve two individuals who had guns, 110 00:07:22,417 --> 00:07:26,017 Speaker 1: and there there were shots fired by police in response 111 00:07:26,057 --> 00:07:28,817 Speaker 1: to this huge political uproar of this. That's what the 112 00:07:28,817 --> 00:07:32,617 Speaker 1: foot chase policies all about, and that's why it's becoming 113 00:07:32,617 --> 00:07:34,817 Speaker 1: permanent right now. And then you also have it's not 114 00:07:34,857 --> 00:07:37,617 Speaker 1: just that at the command level of major police departments 115 00:07:37,617 --> 00:07:40,977 Speaker 1: in Democrat cities. You also have the progressive prosecutors like 116 00:07:41,017 --> 00:07:45,097 Speaker 1: George Gascon. As we know chessa Budan in San Francisco 117 00:07:45,417 --> 00:07:50,297 Speaker 1: is out because people got sick of stepping over needles 118 00:07:50,417 --> 00:07:53,737 Speaker 1: with their children in public parks, and their houses being 119 00:07:53,777 --> 00:07:58,737 Speaker 1: broken into constantly, their cars being broken into constantly, the assaults, 120 00:07:59,577 --> 00:08:03,617 Speaker 1: the constant threats. It was enough, right well, Los Angeles 121 00:08:03,657 --> 00:08:06,457 Speaker 1: has many of the same problems, and recently Gascone, the 122 00:08:06,577 --> 00:08:09,617 Speaker 1: DA came under a lot of well deserved heat because 123 00:08:09,617 --> 00:08:13,217 Speaker 1: he led gang member who under law, should have been 124 00:08:13,257 --> 00:08:17,017 Speaker 1: sentenced under a three strikes law let a gang member 125 00:08:17,097 --> 00:08:21,417 Speaker 1: out who then killed two cops. And Gascone, who is 126 00:08:21,697 --> 00:08:26,457 Speaker 1: the worst a disgrace to any prosecutorial outfit anywhere in 127 00:08:26,497 --> 00:08:29,577 Speaker 1: the country, is defending it, saying, yeah, we did the 128 00:08:29,657 --> 00:08:32,057 Speaker 1: right thing with that gang member who then killed two cops. 129 00:08:32,097 --> 00:08:35,937 Speaker 1: Watch this do the outcome in this particular case, given 130 00:08:36,057 --> 00:08:42,457 Speaker 1: what we knew then, no history of violence, very little 131 00:08:42,457 --> 00:08:45,257 Speaker 1: contact with a criminal justice system for nearly ten years 132 00:08:45,977 --> 00:08:54,697 Speaker 1: was appropriate. When people are arrested for serious crimes, we 133 00:08:54,737 --> 00:09:00,177 Speaker 1: work hard to ensure that there are serious consequences, including 134 00:09:00,297 --> 00:09:07,537 Speaker 1: lengthy periods of incarceration, But we have an imperfect system. 135 00:09:07,577 --> 00:09:13,737 Speaker 1: And that's not only hear in Laus everywhere. He's the disgrace. 136 00:09:14,297 --> 00:09:16,697 Speaker 1: He should resign, and the fact that he won't just 137 00:09:16,777 --> 00:09:20,617 Speaker 1: shows what an unethical piece of garbage he is as 138 00:09:20,617 --> 00:09:23,697 Speaker 1: a prosecutor. We'll have more on this with retired FBI 139 00:09:23,817 --> 00:09:28,697 Speaker 1: agent James Gagliano in just a moment. Let's talk about 140 00:09:28,697 --> 00:09:30,337 Speaker 1: protecting your home for a minute. 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Violent crime is a major national news story 181 00:11:40,497 --> 00:11:42,697 Speaker 1: because of exactly the statistics we've been talking to you 182 00:11:42,697 --> 00:11:48,857 Speaker 1: about on this show. Unprecedented increases in shootings, in murders, 183 00:11:48,897 --> 00:11:51,577 Speaker 1: and this is across the country, major cities, and it 184 00:11:51,697 --> 00:11:56,137 Speaker 1: continued beyond the horrific year of a thirty percent nationwide 185 00:11:56,137 --> 00:11:59,577 Speaker 1: increase in twenty twenty to twenty twenty one. What can 186 00:11:59,577 --> 00:12:03,777 Speaker 1: we do to combat the situation, and also want to 187 00:12:03,817 --> 00:12:06,417 Speaker 1: talk about the latest updates from Uvalde. We're joined now 188 00:12:06,497 --> 00:12:11,057 Speaker 1: by James Gagliano. He is a retired FBI agent was 189 00:12:11,057 --> 00:12:14,497 Speaker 1: a member of an FBI hostage rescue team during his 190 00:12:15,057 --> 00:12:18,977 Speaker 1: time serving. James, thanks for being with us. Did join 191 00:12:19,017 --> 00:12:22,617 Speaker 1: you Buck as always, So let's just start with the 192 00:12:23,257 --> 00:12:28,697 Speaker 1: crime data. Looking at the numbers you have even compared 193 00:12:28,777 --> 00:12:33,737 Speaker 1: to last year was a terrible year nationwide, cities, towns, rural. 194 00:12:34,057 --> 00:12:36,857 Speaker 1: There were spikes in crime really all over the country 195 00:12:37,417 --> 00:12:40,897 Speaker 1: starting in twenty twenty and going through twenty twenty one. 196 00:12:41,057 --> 00:12:42,737 Speaker 1: But here we are in twenty twenty two in the 197 00:12:42,817 --> 00:12:47,217 Speaker 1: data in Atlanta, Baltimore, Philadelphia, Los Angeles, DC, New York 198 00:12:47,737 --> 00:12:51,457 Speaker 1: all showing year over year increases. So it's not like 199 00:12:51,497 --> 00:12:53,617 Speaker 1: we had a really bad year, We've got it under control. 200 00:12:54,097 --> 00:12:57,217 Speaker 1: It's actually continuing to get worse in these cities. First off, 201 00:12:57,617 --> 00:13:01,497 Speaker 1: is that surprising to you just from a criminal justice 202 00:13:01,497 --> 00:13:05,057 Speaker 1: statistical perspective? And what do you think is pushing these 203 00:13:05,137 --> 00:13:09,297 Speaker 1: numbers even higher than we've seen them. Yeah, it is 204 00:13:09,337 --> 00:13:12,617 Speaker 1: no surprise to me, Buck, absolutely not. There's two things 205 00:13:12,697 --> 00:13:19,137 Speaker 1: that drive this. One is a permissive environment, because criminals, evildoers, 206 00:13:19,537 --> 00:13:22,297 Speaker 1: they take the path of least resistance and they will 207 00:13:22,337 --> 00:13:24,937 Speaker 1: take what you give them. And when you have this 208 00:13:25,057 --> 00:13:29,817 Speaker 1: influx of progressive prosecutors. And we know that in San Francisco, 209 00:13:29,937 --> 00:13:33,697 Speaker 1: chase of Bodin was just recalled. We know that George 210 00:13:33,817 --> 00:13:37,737 Speaker 1: Gascone in Los Angeles is under fire right now for 211 00:13:37,777 --> 00:13:40,057 Speaker 1: the fact that he let out a felon who was 212 00:13:40,177 --> 00:13:43,777 Speaker 1: arrested with a gun and drugs and gave improbation, and 213 00:13:43,817 --> 00:13:46,737 Speaker 1: that felon went on to kill two police officers recently. 214 00:13:47,097 --> 00:13:50,657 Speaker 1: You've got Alvin Bragg in Manhattan. You've got Kim Fox 215 00:13:50,657 --> 00:13:54,657 Speaker 1: in Chicago, You've got Larry Krasner in Philadelphia. These folks, 216 00:13:54,777 --> 00:13:57,497 Speaker 1: we live in a society where our criminal justice system 217 00:13:57,577 --> 00:14:00,377 Speaker 1: is imperfect, but it is the best in the world. 218 00:14:00,817 --> 00:14:05,017 Speaker 1: But it depends buck on an advertarial adversarial system where 219 00:14:05,377 --> 00:14:09,297 Speaker 1: the defense has an opportunity to make their case, but 220 00:14:09,377 --> 00:14:12,057 Speaker 1: the prosecutution represents me and you and the rest of 221 00:14:12,057 --> 00:14:16,177 Speaker 1: the public, and when the prosecution helps makes the defenses case. 222 00:14:16,737 --> 00:14:19,417 Speaker 1: That's why we're seeing all these numbers driven up right now. 223 00:14:19,697 --> 00:14:23,217 Speaker 1: There is no fear right now, there's no repercussions. That's 224 00:14:23,217 --> 00:14:27,017 Speaker 1: why smashing grabs are going on, grand theft auto is up, 225 00:14:27,337 --> 00:14:30,737 Speaker 1: robberies are up. It's because people understand there's a permissive 226 00:14:30,817 --> 00:14:33,417 Speaker 1: environment and they're going to do whatever it takes to 227 00:14:33,417 --> 00:14:36,617 Speaker 1: get away with things because they know there are no consequences. 228 00:14:36,617 --> 00:14:43,097 Speaker 1: But from a criminal justice perspective, how do you assess 229 00:14:43,977 --> 00:14:46,297 Speaker 1: new policies that have been put in place in cities 230 00:14:46,337 --> 00:14:51,097 Speaker 1: like Chicago, where they now have a no foot chase rule, 231 00:14:51,577 --> 00:14:54,057 Speaker 1: and that extent for for police, meaning that if police 232 00:14:54,137 --> 00:14:57,777 Speaker 1: believe that somebody is in the course of committing a 233 00:14:57,817 --> 00:15:00,217 Speaker 1: crime or has committed a crime and runs from them, 234 00:15:00,537 --> 00:15:03,497 Speaker 1: unless they think it's a serious violent felony that has 235 00:15:03,497 --> 00:15:06,737 Speaker 1: occurred or the person poses an immediate threat to the public, 236 00:15:07,137 --> 00:15:10,097 Speaker 1: the cops aren't even supposed to run after individuals. So 237 00:15:10,177 --> 00:15:12,737 Speaker 1: you see this, you say, okay, So, let's say a 238 00:15:12,817 --> 00:15:16,337 Speaker 1: group of organized retail theft and organized retail theft gang 239 00:15:16,417 --> 00:15:19,657 Speaker 1: goes into one of those fancy handback stores and steals 240 00:15:19,817 --> 00:15:22,657 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars of stuff in three or four minutes, 241 00:15:22,697 --> 00:15:26,777 Speaker 1: as they've done in downtown Chicago, for example. Cops arrive 242 00:15:26,857 --> 00:15:30,377 Speaker 1: on the scene, those individuals run with those handbags. The 243 00:15:30,457 --> 00:15:34,177 Speaker 1: cops aren't allowed to chase them. How is there any 244 00:15:34,257 --> 00:15:37,457 Speaker 1: law and order when that's the policy of the city 245 00:15:37,457 --> 00:15:42,577 Speaker 1: of Chicago. Yeah. Again, it speaks to It speaks to 246 00:15:42,617 --> 00:15:47,737 Speaker 1: the fact that the criminal element understands and senses weakness, 247 00:15:47,817 --> 00:15:50,897 Speaker 1: and in this instance, that's what it is. Look Alvin 248 00:15:50,937 --> 00:15:55,297 Speaker 1: Bragg in Manhattan, the DA there put out a policy 249 00:15:55,337 --> 00:15:58,577 Speaker 1: memorandum right after he's elected and stated that he was 250 00:15:58,697 --> 00:16:03,177 Speaker 1: not going to be seeking prosecutions for resisting arrest. So 251 00:16:03,217 --> 00:16:06,337 Speaker 1: what does that tell the potential subject, Hey, I've got 252 00:16:06,337 --> 00:16:08,817 Speaker 1: a chance to get away, and if I don't get 253 00:16:08,857 --> 00:16:11,137 Speaker 1: away and I club police officer on the head with 254 00:16:11,217 --> 00:16:13,417 Speaker 1: a cudgel or punch him in the face, I'm not 255 00:16:13,457 --> 00:16:16,817 Speaker 1: going to be prosecuted for it. Same thing in Chicago. 256 00:16:17,257 --> 00:16:19,577 Speaker 1: Cops have a tough job. We all know that you 257 00:16:19,617 --> 00:16:22,657 Speaker 1: and I have discussed this many times before, but now 258 00:16:22,857 --> 00:16:25,497 Speaker 1: they have to make not just the snap judgments that 259 00:16:25,657 --> 00:16:28,177 Speaker 1: come with the information vacuum they're dealing with when they 260 00:16:28,217 --> 00:16:31,097 Speaker 1: respond to a crime in progress, but they've got to 261 00:16:31,137 --> 00:16:35,737 Speaker 1: determine was this an aggravated assault or simple assault. If 262 00:16:35,737 --> 00:16:38,777 Speaker 1: it's an aggregated aggravated assault, then I can take off 263 00:16:38,817 --> 00:16:41,817 Speaker 1: and try to catch this guy. If not, I might 264 00:16:41,857 --> 00:16:46,017 Speaker 1: be subjecting myself to some type of legal ramifications. At 265 00:16:46,057 --> 00:16:48,657 Speaker 1: the end of this, it's not worth it. And when 266 00:16:48,657 --> 00:16:51,857 Speaker 1: you sense that the police departments are having a tough 267 00:16:51,857 --> 00:16:54,497 Speaker 1: time now with recruiting, they're having a tough time with 268 00:16:54,537 --> 00:16:58,977 Speaker 1: retention that people are leaving in droves, and police departments 269 00:16:58,977 --> 00:17:02,297 Speaker 1: are having trouble recruiting young people men and women, to 270 00:17:02,417 --> 00:17:04,897 Speaker 1: come and be part of this. What does that say. 271 00:17:05,097 --> 00:17:06,937 Speaker 1: It means we're in a bad spot right now and 272 00:17:06,977 --> 00:17:10,177 Speaker 1: we've got to change this. But the pendulum always swing 273 00:17:10,297 --> 00:17:13,177 Speaker 1: back and course correct. We're going in a bad direction 274 00:17:13,257 --> 00:17:15,217 Speaker 1: right now, just like we were in the seventies and 275 00:17:15,257 --> 00:17:18,497 Speaker 1: the eighties and then broken windows became a thing. We 276 00:17:18,497 --> 00:17:21,097 Speaker 1: don't need to reinvent the wheel. We need to use 277 00:17:21,217 --> 00:17:24,377 Speaker 1: what worked, things like broken windows policing and I since 278 00:17:24,697 --> 00:17:26,417 Speaker 1: a lot of cities are going to be moving back 279 00:17:26,417 --> 00:17:29,577 Speaker 1: to that line of thought pretty soon, James warned to 280 00:17:30,097 --> 00:17:34,377 Speaker 1: switch to another really important and very difficult topic of 281 00:17:34,497 --> 00:17:39,657 Speaker 1: the latest on the Uval Day School massacre police response. 282 00:17:40,097 --> 00:17:45,177 Speaker 1: There is video now that shows individuals from law enforcement 283 00:17:45,737 --> 00:17:48,817 Speaker 1: essentially in a stacked position in the hallway and he's 284 00:17:49,377 --> 00:17:51,177 Speaker 1: ready to go in. They waited for over an hour. 285 00:17:51,257 --> 00:17:54,097 Speaker 1: Here's the Texas Department of Public Safety Director Steve McGraw 286 00:17:54,817 --> 00:17:56,977 Speaker 1: saying the suspect could have been stopped within three minute. 287 00:17:56,977 --> 00:18:01,217 Speaker 1: Why there's compelling evidence at the law enforcement response to 288 00:18:01,257 --> 00:18:05,057 Speaker 1: the attack at rob Elementary was an abject failure and 289 00:18:05,177 --> 00:18:08,697 Speaker 1: anathetical to everything we've learned over the last two decades 290 00:18:08,937 --> 00:18:12,577 Speaker 1: since the Call of Mine. Massacre three minutes after the 291 00:18:12,577 --> 00:18:16,017 Speaker 1: subject under the West Building, there a sufficient number of 292 00:18:16,137 --> 00:18:21,137 Speaker 1: armed officers wearing body armor to isolate, distract, and neutralize 293 00:18:21,177 --> 00:18:26,057 Speaker 1: the subject. The only thing stopping the hallway of dedicated 294 00:18:26,097 --> 00:18:30,017 Speaker 1: officers from any room one eleven and one twelve was 295 00:18:30,057 --> 00:18:33,657 Speaker 1: the unseen commander who decided to place the lives of 296 00:18:33,657 --> 00:18:37,337 Speaker 1: officers before the lives of children. I mean, that is 297 00:18:37,377 --> 00:18:40,377 Speaker 1: a stunning indictment to say that he placed the lives 298 00:18:40,377 --> 00:18:44,257 Speaker 1: of officers over the lives of children. Based on the facts, though, James, 299 00:18:45,057 --> 00:18:48,177 Speaker 1: is that just an honest assessment of what happened here? 300 00:18:48,577 --> 00:18:51,937 Speaker 1: Given that there's video, there's no question and the timeline 301 00:18:52,017 --> 00:18:55,417 Speaker 1: is not in dispute either, that you had multiple officers 302 00:18:55,457 --> 00:18:59,577 Speaker 1: in the hallway with long guns and tactical shields and 303 00:18:59,737 --> 00:19:03,617 Speaker 1: bullet resistant kevlar vests on who waited over an hour 304 00:19:04,057 --> 00:19:07,377 Speaker 1: while there were still active shooting going on in that classroom. 305 00:19:07,417 --> 00:19:11,817 Speaker 1: How did this happen? What do you think about this? Police? Well, 306 00:19:11,857 --> 00:19:15,257 Speaker 1: I agree with him right there. It was an abject failure. 307 00:19:15,497 --> 00:19:17,177 Speaker 1: And Buck, I think you know me well enough to 308 00:19:17,217 --> 00:19:20,897 Speaker 1: know now, I'm very careful on waiting to weigh in 309 00:19:21,417 --> 00:19:23,697 Speaker 1: until all the facts are at hand, and I know 310 00:19:23,777 --> 00:19:27,297 Speaker 1: that there is an ongoing investigation. Pieces are leaking out. 311 00:19:27,457 --> 00:19:31,257 Speaker 1: The things that are leaking out are beyond stressing. They 312 00:19:31,297 --> 00:19:35,577 Speaker 1: are it's unconscionable. Now. I think the biggest breakdown in 313 00:19:35,617 --> 00:19:38,657 Speaker 1: the incident command system here was the fact that you 314 00:19:38,737 --> 00:19:42,177 Speaker 1: had a police chief who had a six member police 315 00:19:42,177 --> 00:19:45,577 Speaker 1: department for the school district, and this police chief, Aridondo, 316 00:19:45,937 --> 00:19:49,497 Speaker 1: who was the unseen commander and making the calls throughout. 317 00:19:49,977 --> 00:19:52,777 Speaker 1: Now from the time the shooter entered the school until 318 00:19:52,857 --> 00:19:56,537 Speaker 1: the shooter was neutralized interdicted by a Customs and Border 319 00:19:56,537 --> 00:19:59,457 Speaker 1: Patrol TAC team I believe was the total of seventy 320 00:19:59,457 --> 00:20:04,457 Speaker 1: seven minutes. The fact that post Columbine Post Columbine, which 321 00:20:04,457 --> 00:20:07,497 Speaker 1: happened in April of nineteen ninety nine, we are twenty 322 00:20:07,577 --> 00:20:10,937 Speaker 1: three years past that where we learned ainful lessons when 323 00:20:10,977 --> 00:20:14,337 Speaker 1: law enforcement officers waited in the parking lot for homogeneous 324 00:20:14,337 --> 00:20:17,777 Speaker 1: tactical team to show up and gave the shooters forty 325 00:20:17,937 --> 00:20:23,057 Speaker 1: seven minutes from entry to commit heinous crimes killing people, teachers, 326 00:20:23,377 --> 00:20:26,857 Speaker 1: killing us students. In this instance, I think it was 327 00:20:26,897 --> 00:20:29,497 Speaker 1: a lesson learned for all of us here, but especially 328 00:20:29,537 --> 00:20:32,577 Speaker 1: a painful one in law enforcement. Someone from one of 329 00:20:32,577 --> 00:20:34,897 Speaker 1: the other agencies that respond, whether it was a federal 330 00:20:34,897 --> 00:20:38,057 Speaker 1: agency like Customs and Border Protection or the Department of 331 00:20:38,097 --> 00:20:42,057 Speaker 1: Public Safety for Texas, which is a much larger agency. 332 00:20:42,377 --> 00:20:45,097 Speaker 1: A sergeant or lieutenant there is the equivalent of a 333 00:20:45,177 --> 00:20:49,017 Speaker 1: police chief anywhere else, should have taken charge of the scene. 334 00:20:49,217 --> 00:20:51,737 Speaker 1: And yes, Buck, to your point, they should have gone 335 00:20:51,737 --> 00:20:54,697 Speaker 1: to the sound of the guns when young children who 336 00:20:54,697 --> 00:20:57,817 Speaker 1: are not outfitted in body armor and are covering up 337 00:20:57,857 --> 00:21:01,417 Speaker 1: with notebooks and chiefs of paper are waiting on the 338 00:21:01,457 --> 00:21:05,697 Speaker 1: perfect homogeneous tactical team to make entry. Buck, we're doing 339 00:21:05,737 --> 00:21:10,417 Speaker 1: it wrong. James, appreciate the expertise. Thanks for being with us, 340 00:21:11,217 --> 00:21:15,217 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, bubb Coming up, the Senate has 341 00:21:15,217 --> 00:21:20,697 Speaker 1: advanced a bipartisan gun control measure. What will this really do, 342 00:21:21,017 --> 00:21:24,217 Speaker 1: if anything. We'll talk to Cam Edwards of Bearing Arms 343 00:21:24,297 --> 00:21:28,137 Speaker 1: dot Com next. At first, I want to talk to you 344 00:21:28,097 --> 00:21:31,057 Speaker 1: you about protecting your online data. A lot of companies 345 00:21:31,097 --> 00:21:33,537 Speaker 1: promise your privacy is guaranteed, but we know that's not true. 346 00:21:33,857 --> 00:21:36,737 Speaker 1: That's why you need a new privacy and cybersecurity application 347 00:21:36,777 --> 00:21:40,417 Speaker 1: tool called Secure. It's spelled SEK. You are. 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So the Senate has voted to advance 363 00:22:28,377 --> 00:22:34,017 Speaker 1: a gun control legislation that is going to do the following. 364 00:22:34,017 --> 00:22:37,697 Speaker 1: Expanded background checks for buyers under twenty one, provides grants 365 00:22:37,737 --> 00:22:40,897 Speaker 1: for states that implement their own red flag laws, etc. Etc. 366 00:22:41,137 --> 00:22:44,377 Speaker 1: A lot of things going on here. Fourteen Republicans, mental 367 00:22:44,417 --> 00:22:48,017 Speaker 1: health services, things like that. Fourteen Republicans went along with it. 368 00:22:48,457 --> 00:22:51,337 Speaker 1: Which a lot of people on the writers saying, what 369 00:22:51,497 --> 00:22:54,697 Speaker 1: the heck is going on here? Well, when we have 370 00:22:54,737 --> 00:22:56,737 Speaker 1: a question like that and it has to do with 371 00:22:56,777 --> 00:23:00,417 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment, gotta ask our buddy, dam Edwards, damn, 372 00:23:00,417 --> 00:23:04,417 Speaker 1: what's going on? Hey? Buck? Hey, why are you man? So? 373 00:23:04,497 --> 00:23:09,377 Speaker 1: First off, any surprises on the Republicans who went along 374 00:23:09,377 --> 00:23:14,217 Speaker 1: with this, Yeah, Tidy Young of Indiana was a bit 375 00:23:14,257 --> 00:23:16,097 Speaker 1: of a surprise, although I didn't see a quote from 376 00:23:16,177 --> 00:23:18,697 Speaker 1: him I think on Monday or Tuesday of this week 377 00:23:18,737 --> 00:23:21,097 Speaker 1: that indicated like he was, you know, looking forward to 378 00:23:21,137 --> 00:23:24,057 Speaker 1: seeing what they came up with, So he was a 379 00:23:24,097 --> 00:23:27,177 Speaker 1: bit of a surprise. Murkowski was not as much of 380 00:23:27,177 --> 00:23:30,097 Speaker 1: a surprise to me. And then you know, let's we've 381 00:23:30,097 --> 00:23:32,577 Speaker 1: had ten Republicans who sat all along like as as 382 00:23:32,617 --> 00:23:36,817 Speaker 1: long as the final legislation followed that basic framework that 383 00:23:36,857 --> 00:23:40,497 Speaker 1: they were in support, So I wasn't too surprised. I 384 00:23:40,497 --> 00:23:43,337 Speaker 1: actually predicted before a vote was held yesterday that this 385 00:23:43,377 --> 00:23:47,577 Speaker 1: would get sixty five votes and get in sixty four, 386 00:23:47,617 --> 00:23:50,657 Speaker 1: so I was pretty close. I was one off. So 387 00:23:51,737 --> 00:23:53,577 Speaker 1: now we are at this point where people of course 388 00:23:53,617 --> 00:23:57,097 Speaker 1: have been saying until today, well, you don't even know 389 00:23:57,137 --> 00:23:59,217 Speaker 1: what's in it. Because the text is in public, so 390 00:23:59,257 --> 00:24:01,817 Speaker 1: you're just going on you know, hearsay or whatever. Right, 391 00:24:01,857 --> 00:24:03,377 Speaker 1: this is how the people that want this stuff to 392 00:24:03,417 --> 00:24:06,897 Speaker 1: pass play games in the media. Now they've actually got 393 00:24:06,897 --> 00:24:09,417 Speaker 1: a text, now they've actually voted on it. They dropped it, 394 00:24:09,497 --> 00:24:13,977 Speaker 1: as i'ner stand it last night, eighty pages, so very 395 00:24:14,017 --> 00:24:16,537 Speaker 1: little time even for the Senate staffers, never mind the 396 00:24:16,537 --> 00:24:20,137 Speaker 1: senators themselves to go over this and see what's it 397 00:24:20,257 --> 00:24:24,057 Speaker 1: it based on what we know, Kim, what's in it? 398 00:24:24,257 --> 00:24:27,497 Speaker 1: And even more importantly, how do you see this actually 399 00:24:27,497 --> 00:24:31,137 Speaker 1: being implemented or what happens now if this gets signed, 400 00:24:31,137 --> 00:24:35,017 Speaker 1: which we believe it will by Biden in the law. Well, 401 00:24:35,097 --> 00:24:38,217 Speaker 1: I think the biggest impact that folks are going to 402 00:24:38,297 --> 00:24:41,137 Speaker 1: see right away is going to be the expanded background 403 00:24:41,217 --> 00:24:42,897 Speaker 1: checks for eighteen, nineteen, and twenty year olds. So if 404 00:24:42,937 --> 00:24:44,817 Speaker 1: you're an adult under the age of twenty one and 405 00:24:44,857 --> 00:24:47,377 Speaker 1: you go to buy a firearm, you're going to see 406 00:24:47,377 --> 00:24:50,097 Speaker 1: an immediate impact, right because we're basically talking about a 407 00:24:50,497 --> 00:24:54,057 Speaker 1: three day waiting period, potentially as many as ten business 408 00:24:54,217 --> 00:24:58,417 Speaker 1: days while the FBI goes into your juvenile records to 409 00:24:58,457 --> 00:25:01,177 Speaker 1: see if there was any sort of juvenile crime that 410 00:25:01,217 --> 00:25:04,657 Speaker 1: would make you prohibit or promoning a firearm as far 411 00:25:04,777 --> 00:25:08,897 Speaker 1: as adults go. There's also a change in the definition 412 00:25:08,937 --> 00:25:12,057 Speaker 1: of who is is engaged in the business of selling 413 00:25:12,097 --> 00:25:14,857 Speaker 1: firearms right because once you're engaged in the business, you 414 00:25:14,897 --> 00:25:18,057 Speaker 1: have to be a federal firearms license. And it's still 415 00:25:18,097 --> 00:25:20,057 Speaker 1: not a hardened fast rule, like they didn't say if 416 00:25:20,057 --> 00:25:21,777 Speaker 1: you sell more than fifty guns a year you need 417 00:25:21,777 --> 00:25:25,417 Speaker 1: to get an FL. Basically, the new definition is if 418 00:25:25,417 --> 00:25:29,777 Speaker 1: you are selling guns primarily for profit, then you should 419 00:25:29,777 --> 00:25:33,457 Speaker 1: be getting an FL. So, you know, I could see 420 00:25:33,457 --> 00:25:36,617 Speaker 1: that some gun owners who have quite an extensive collection, 421 00:25:36,657 --> 00:25:40,057 Speaker 1: who may sell a arm from their private collection on 422 00:25:40,097 --> 00:25:43,337 Speaker 1: a semi regular basis, I can see that the ATF 423 00:25:43,377 --> 00:25:46,137 Speaker 1: would now consider them to be a firearms dealer and 424 00:25:46,137 --> 00:25:48,537 Speaker 1: they would need to get an FL. As far as 425 00:25:48,537 --> 00:25:51,297 Speaker 1: the red flag stuff goes, I gotta tell you, I 426 00:25:51,297 --> 00:25:52,617 Speaker 1: don't know that we're going to see a whole lot 427 00:25:52,657 --> 00:25:54,977 Speaker 1: of changes, because you know, this is left up to 428 00:25:54,977 --> 00:25:57,137 Speaker 1: the states as to whether or not they want to 429 00:25:57,177 --> 00:26:00,417 Speaker 1: implement these red flag laws. States are also eligible now 430 00:26:00,417 --> 00:26:02,777 Speaker 1: for the same pool of grant money for programs that 431 00:26:02,977 --> 00:26:08,697 Speaker 1: don't involve confiscating firearms without due process protection. So things 432 00:26:08,737 --> 00:26:11,657 Speaker 1: like veterans courts, another christ centtervenged programs. If states want 433 00:26:11,657 --> 00:26:15,297 Speaker 1: to adopt those strategies, they're still eligible for that pool 434 00:26:15,337 --> 00:26:17,937 Speaker 1: of federal grant funds. So I don't think we're going 435 00:26:18,017 --> 00:26:21,457 Speaker 1: to see an explosion of red states adopting red flag laws. 436 00:26:21,817 --> 00:26:24,057 Speaker 1: Most of the blue states already have them in place, 437 00:26:24,657 --> 00:26:27,697 Speaker 1: and I think that that's actually well, it's a troubling 438 00:26:27,817 --> 00:26:31,617 Speaker 1: part of the bill. I don't know how much real 439 00:26:31,697 --> 00:26:34,017 Speaker 1: world impact it's going to have, at least right away. 440 00:26:35,537 --> 00:26:38,977 Speaker 1: Dam here's Senator Chuck Schumer. I mean, on this point 441 00:26:38,977 --> 00:26:42,617 Speaker 1: about what it does, the answer is obviously not a 442 00:26:42,657 --> 00:26:46,137 Speaker 1: lot that good. If anything that's good or useful might 443 00:26:46,337 --> 00:26:50,537 Speaker 1: annoy some people or create some hassle's delays for the 444 00:26:50,617 --> 00:26:53,457 Speaker 1: law abiding, it seems very unlikely this is going to 445 00:26:53,537 --> 00:26:56,297 Speaker 1: stop even one shooting. I don't know. I mean, I 446 00:26:56,457 --> 00:27:00,097 Speaker 1: suppose they're always going to operate under the theoretical premise that, well, 447 00:27:00,137 --> 00:27:05,097 Speaker 1: it could create a circumstance, right, we'll see. But also 448 00:27:05,137 --> 00:27:07,257 Speaker 1: this isn't the end of it either. I mean, it's 449 00:27:07,297 --> 00:27:09,897 Speaker 1: not like Democrats now are going to surround and say 450 00:27:09,937 --> 00:27:14,137 Speaker 1: we got bipartisan gun reform. We're good now. This is 451 00:27:14,217 --> 00:27:17,897 Speaker 1: just okay, step one in a much longer journey for 452 00:27:18,177 --> 00:27:20,977 Speaker 1: disarming the American people. I mean, here's Chuck Schumer saying, 453 00:27:21,257 --> 00:27:23,977 Speaker 1: this is just the beginning. Folks. Why while it's not 454 00:27:24,057 --> 00:27:29,097 Speaker 1: everything we want, this legislation is urgently needed. I'm pleased 455 00:27:29,297 --> 00:27:33,297 Speaker 1: that for the first time in nearly thirty years, Congress 456 00:27:33,417 --> 00:27:36,777 Speaker 1: is back on the path to take meaningful action to 457 00:27:36,817 --> 00:27:44,297 Speaker 1: address gun violence. What do you think, Yeah, listen, here's 458 00:27:44,297 --> 00:27:45,377 Speaker 1: the thing, and you're right. And this is where we 459 00:27:45,417 --> 00:27:48,297 Speaker 1: get into the politics right as opposed to the policy 460 00:27:48,777 --> 00:27:52,257 Speaker 1: of this legislation, and the politics I think are pretty 461 00:27:52,257 --> 00:27:56,057 Speaker 1: simple for both sides here. Democrats are looking for something 462 00:27:56,497 --> 00:27:58,737 Speaker 1: that they can call a win, that they can present 463 00:27:58,777 --> 00:28:00,897 Speaker 1: to their base and say, look, we're not completely inept. 464 00:28:00,977 --> 00:28:02,857 Speaker 1: Look we can actually get stuff done. Please come out 465 00:28:02,857 --> 00:28:07,817 Speaker 1: and vote for us come November. And this is it. Republicans. Meanwhile, 466 00:28:07,857 --> 00:28:09,257 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of folks ask me, Okay, well, 467 00:28:09,257 --> 00:28:12,377 Speaker 1: what are Republicans got out of this? I think you 468 00:28:12,497 --> 00:28:14,857 Speaker 1: have to look at the polls that we've seen, particularly 469 00:28:14,857 --> 00:28:18,897 Speaker 1: since Guivaldi, showing that crime and quote gun violence has 470 00:28:18,937 --> 00:28:21,297 Speaker 1: become one of the top concerns of voters. It's not 471 00:28:21,377 --> 00:28:24,257 Speaker 1: as high as inflation. It's not as high as the economy, 472 00:28:24,457 --> 00:28:27,577 Speaker 1: but it is on the mind of voters. And look, 473 00:28:28,097 --> 00:28:31,937 Speaker 1: this is a red wave environment for Republicans. They're looking 474 00:28:31,977 --> 00:28:36,657 Speaker 1: to try to increase their margins, increase their majorities, and 475 00:28:36,737 --> 00:28:40,777 Speaker 1: if they feel like they can win more votes by 476 00:28:40,817 --> 00:28:43,457 Speaker 1: approving this deal than they're going to lose from single 477 00:28:43,457 --> 00:28:46,737 Speaker 1: issue second amendment voters. Listen, you're going to see the 478 00:28:46,777 --> 00:28:49,937 Speaker 1: murder turtle, Mitch McConnell, roll the dice and take that bet. 479 00:28:49,977 --> 00:28:52,897 Speaker 1: I think that is the political calculation for Republicans that 480 00:28:53,657 --> 00:28:55,697 Speaker 1: most single issue two way voters are not going to 481 00:28:55,737 --> 00:28:57,777 Speaker 1: stay at home on election day because their matter Republicans 482 00:28:57,817 --> 00:28:59,897 Speaker 1: for voting for this deal. They still want to vote 483 00:28:59,937 --> 00:29:03,417 Speaker 1: Democrats out. They are tired of five dollars a gallon gas. 484 00:29:04,097 --> 00:29:06,697 Speaker 1: And Frankly, and I hate to say this, I'm not 485 00:29:06,737 --> 00:29:09,017 Speaker 1: sure how many single issue voters there are right now 486 00:29:09,137 --> 00:29:11,577 Speaker 1: unless that single is you is the economy or inflation. 487 00:29:11,977 --> 00:29:14,337 Speaker 1: You know that's impacting all of us. And I think 488 00:29:14,377 --> 00:29:17,777 Speaker 1: that it's given Republicans a little bit of wiggle room 489 00:29:17,897 --> 00:29:20,897 Speaker 1: to play for the middle as opposed to try to 490 00:29:20,937 --> 00:29:24,417 Speaker 1: appease the base. Yeah, it seems like I think that's 491 00:29:24,537 --> 00:29:28,497 Speaker 1: various student analysis. Mitch McConnell certainly has no fear about 492 00:29:28,497 --> 00:29:31,177 Speaker 1: what this will do to his reelection prospects. He put 493 00:29:31,177 --> 00:29:34,577 Speaker 1: out a statement, I support the bill texts at Senator 494 00:29:34,577 --> 00:29:37,377 Speaker 1: reported in our colleagues have produced. For years, the far 495 00:29:37,537 --> 00:29:40,817 Speaker 1: left falsely claimed that Congress could only address the terrible 496 00:29:40,857 --> 00:29:43,977 Speaker 1: issue of mass murders by trampling on law abiding americans 497 00:29:44,057 --> 00:29:47,657 Speaker 1: constitutional rights. This bill proves that false. Our colleagues have 498 00:29:47,737 --> 00:29:49,977 Speaker 1: put together a common sense package of popular steps that 499 00:29:50,017 --> 00:29:53,297 Speaker 1: will help make these horrifying incidents less likely while upholding 500 00:29:53,297 --> 00:29:56,417 Speaker 1: Second Amendment rights of law abiding citizens. I honestly just 501 00:29:56,497 --> 00:29:58,697 Speaker 1: don't believe they're going to make them less likely. I 502 00:29:58,777 --> 00:30:01,017 Speaker 1: think that's a huge leap. But even apart from that, 503 00:30:02,377 --> 00:30:06,177 Speaker 1: the notion that this in some way will result in 504 00:30:06,617 --> 00:30:10,217 Speaker 1: good faith from the Democrats. Now, okay, Republicans don't just 505 00:30:10,417 --> 00:30:13,337 Speaker 1: want to watch lots of people die in gun violence 506 00:30:13,337 --> 00:30:15,457 Speaker 1: all of the country and do nothing. We're not going 507 00:30:15,497 --> 00:30:17,977 Speaker 1: to use that talking point anymore. No, they're going to 508 00:30:18,057 --> 00:30:20,297 Speaker 1: use that talking point tomorrow. Cam You and I both 509 00:30:20,377 --> 00:30:24,897 Speaker 1: know it absolutely. But now Republicans can say, no, they're wrong. Look, 510 00:30:24,937 --> 00:30:27,017 Speaker 1: we took action right, So no, They're not going to 511 00:30:27,097 --> 00:30:32,697 Speaker 1: convince Democrats, but they may convince independence. Right, they may 512 00:30:33,057 --> 00:30:35,857 Speaker 1: be able to convince folks who were on the fence 513 00:30:35,937 --> 00:30:37,537 Speaker 1: or maybe not even thinking about voting this year. Although 514 00:30:37,537 --> 00:30:39,297 Speaker 1: I don't have any Americans, there are like that out 515 00:30:39,337 --> 00:30:42,937 Speaker 1: there these days. Again, I think this was a sort 516 00:30:42,977 --> 00:30:47,257 Speaker 1: of a political prevent defense move on the part of Republicans, right, 517 00:30:47,297 --> 00:30:52,377 Speaker 1: They're they're they're just trying to appear not crazy or 518 00:30:52,457 --> 00:30:56,137 Speaker 1: at least less crazy than Democrats, and to give that 519 00:30:56,377 --> 00:30:59,297 Speaker 1: that that sort of you know, moderate squishy middle another 520 00:30:59,417 --> 00:31:01,697 Speaker 1: reason to vote for them. And now when Democrats say 521 00:31:01,737 --> 00:31:05,377 Speaker 1: Republicans don't care about your kids, Republicans can say, yeah, 522 00:31:05,377 --> 00:31:06,977 Speaker 1: we do, because look at what we did. We just 523 00:31:07,057 --> 00:31:09,817 Speaker 1: spend seven billion dollars for school safety. We just know, 524 00:31:10,057 --> 00:31:13,217 Speaker 1: prove mental health access for adolescents who are at risk. 525 00:31:13,337 --> 00:31:16,137 Speaker 1: So you know, they checked the box here as far 526 00:31:16,217 --> 00:31:20,577 Speaker 1: as how effective these policies are going to be. Look, 527 00:31:20,617 --> 00:31:23,457 Speaker 1: Expanded background checks for eighteen, nineteen, and twenty year olds 528 00:31:23,617 --> 00:31:26,457 Speaker 1: might pick up some teenagers who were convicted of some 529 00:31:26,537 --> 00:31:28,857 Speaker 1: pretty aineous crimes who you know, are now free and 530 00:31:28,897 --> 00:31:30,377 Speaker 1: cleared to buy a gun as an eighteen year old. 531 00:31:30,417 --> 00:31:33,577 Speaker 1: Maybe that stops somebody. I'd like to think, you know, 532 00:31:33,617 --> 00:31:36,217 Speaker 1: I'd like to think that the additional mental health spending, 533 00:31:36,337 --> 00:31:38,337 Speaker 1: if it doesn't stop a school shooter, maybe it stopped 534 00:31:38,337 --> 00:31:42,177 Speaker 1: somebody from killing themselves. Right, maybe it stops somebody from 535 00:31:43,017 --> 00:31:45,097 Speaker 1: bullying another kid. I don't know. Is that worth seven 536 00:31:45,137 --> 00:31:47,657 Speaker 1: billion dollars? I don't know. You know, again, I would 537 00:31:47,657 --> 00:31:49,897 Speaker 1: have preferred to have seen each and every one of 538 00:31:49,937 --> 00:31:52,777 Speaker 1: these things broken out and voted on on a standalone basis. 539 00:31:52,897 --> 00:31:55,177 Speaker 1: But Democrats every would have gone along with that because 540 00:31:55,217 --> 00:31:58,537 Speaker 1: then their gun control a part of the package would 541 00:31:58,577 --> 00:32:02,457 Speaker 1: have failed. Right, So this is the political calculation that 542 00:32:02,577 --> 00:32:06,137 Speaker 1: was made for Democrats and for Republicans. Am I satisfied 543 00:32:06,177 --> 00:32:09,897 Speaker 1: with the bill? No? Is that unusual for me to 544 00:32:09,937 --> 00:32:14,857 Speaker 1: be dissatisfied with Congress? No? So, you know, unfortunately, I 545 00:32:14,977 --> 00:32:17,137 Speaker 1: think even though you know, Chuck, she was talking about 546 00:32:17,177 --> 00:32:18,697 Speaker 1: how this is like the biggest thing to happen in 547 00:32:18,777 --> 00:32:21,137 Speaker 1: gun control in thirty years, I think this is still 548 00:32:21,137 --> 00:32:22,897 Speaker 1: gonna be status quo for a lot of folks who 549 00:32:22,897 --> 00:32:27,257 Speaker 1: follow politics closely. You know, we're watching watching NDC A 550 00:32:27,377 --> 00:32:30,857 Speaker 1: treat what is I think a very real problem through 551 00:32:30,897 --> 00:32:33,017 Speaker 1: a political lens, and I think that that stopping is 552 00:32:33,057 --> 00:32:36,497 Speaker 1: from actually reaching some of the real solutions that we 553 00:32:36,497 --> 00:32:39,977 Speaker 1: should be looking for. Damn, next time, you have to 554 00:32:40,017 --> 00:32:41,657 Speaker 1: give you the secrets of how to grow a beard 555 00:32:41,737 --> 00:32:43,537 Speaker 1: that long, so I can kind of up my game 556 00:32:43,617 --> 00:32:46,977 Speaker 1: here a little bit. But we appreciate you join Haitians patients. 557 00:32:47,137 --> 00:32:51,097 Speaker 1: That's all it takes. Yeah, thanks Bud, Thank you, my friend. 558 00:32:51,857 --> 00:32:56,217 Speaker 1: All right, coming up, Biden talks about a gas tax 559 00:32:56,977 --> 00:32:59,177 Speaker 1: Is that really going to do anything. We'll discuss that 560 00:32:59,377 --> 00:33:10,177 Speaker 1: with Jeff Dice of the Kneeses Institute. Thick around. You 561 00:33:10,217 --> 00:33:13,977 Speaker 1: were to decide to go for a federal gas tax holiday, 562 00:33:14,017 --> 00:33:17,017 Speaker 1: do you believe Congress would support that? And how would 563 00:33:17,057 --> 00:33:19,257 Speaker 1: you feel about the fact that Bose funds are used 564 00:33:19,297 --> 00:33:21,817 Speaker 1: for something that is a big priority for you to 565 00:33:21,937 --> 00:33:24,417 Speaker 1: pare of roads and infrastructure and all of that. Is 566 00:33:24,457 --> 00:33:29,297 Speaker 1: that word. Look, it will have some impact, but it's 567 00:33:29,337 --> 00:33:32,857 Speaker 1: not going to impact on major road construction in major repairs. 568 00:33:33,737 --> 00:33:36,417 Speaker 1: A decision, Well, let me put this way. I'm in 569 00:33:36,497 --> 00:33:38,817 Speaker 1: the process. I'll have a decision before the week is out. 570 00:33:40,817 --> 00:33:43,577 Speaker 1: President Biden saying we got to have a little gas 571 00:33:43,697 --> 00:33:47,057 Speaker 1: tax holiday because the price of gas is so high 572 00:33:47,177 --> 00:33:50,177 Speaker 1: right now, and the biggest problem for Democrats is that 573 00:33:50,377 --> 00:33:52,377 Speaker 1: they're getting blamed for it because you know, they're in 574 00:33:52,457 --> 00:33:55,697 Speaker 1: power and they've made a whole bunch of bad decisions. Well, 575 00:33:55,817 --> 00:33:57,697 Speaker 1: let's talk about what this would actually mean. Join me 576 00:33:57,777 --> 00:34:01,137 Speaker 1: now as the president of the Mesa's Institute, Jeff Dice. Jeff, 577 00:34:01,137 --> 00:34:04,097 Speaker 1: thanks for being with us. Thank you very much for 578 00:34:04,137 --> 00:34:06,777 Speaker 1: having me, Buck. So let's just start with this, the 579 00:34:07,297 --> 00:34:12,057 Speaker 1: notion of a gas tax holiday. What would this mean? 580 00:34:12,137 --> 00:34:15,337 Speaker 1: How does it strike? Well, I wouldn't mean a lot 581 00:34:15,657 --> 00:34:17,777 Speaker 1: for average people. We're just talking about the federal end 582 00:34:17,817 --> 00:34:20,257 Speaker 1: of things. If you happen to live in California or Pennsylvania, 583 00:34:20,337 --> 00:34:23,257 Speaker 1: for example, you're getting charged more than fifty cents per 584 00:34:23,497 --> 00:34:27,577 Speaker 1: gallon at the state level, So this is eighteen point 585 00:34:27,657 --> 00:34:29,617 Speaker 1: four cents. At the federal level, it'd be a couple 586 00:34:29,737 --> 00:34:33,337 Speaker 1: dollars per phillip. Hey, I'll take it. You know, in 587 00:34:33,497 --> 00:34:37,097 Speaker 1: terms of revenue, it's almost meaningless. A few billion dollars 588 00:34:37,177 --> 00:34:40,977 Speaker 1: a month. The federal government sneezes a few billion dollars 589 00:34:41,097 --> 00:34:43,537 Speaker 1: a day. I mean. But what's so interesting about this, 590 00:34:43,577 --> 00:34:46,577 Speaker 1: Buck is Biden doesn't really believe in this. I mean, 591 00:34:46,697 --> 00:34:50,297 Speaker 1: he campaigned on getting rid of fossil fuels. So when 592 00:34:50,337 --> 00:34:52,217 Speaker 1: he talks about this sort of thing, it's just it's 593 00:34:52,217 --> 00:34:55,137 Speaker 1: an obvious political point. I guess we should appreciate that 594 00:34:55,297 --> 00:34:58,257 Speaker 1: he's actually sentient enough at the moment to make a 595 00:34:58,297 --> 00:35:01,177 Speaker 1: political calculation. It shows more spark than he's shown of late. 596 00:35:02,417 --> 00:35:04,937 Speaker 1: And one of the issues that the Democrats have right 597 00:35:05,017 --> 00:35:07,497 Speaker 1: now to tackle. There are a lot of issues, right, Jeff. 598 00:35:07,537 --> 00:35:09,697 Speaker 1: But one thing they gotta make sense of is that 599 00:35:09,737 --> 00:35:15,217 Speaker 1: it was it long ago that Barack Obama himself was 600 00:35:15,497 --> 00:35:19,857 Speaker 1: making the case that a gas tax change of any 601 00:35:19,937 --> 00:35:22,817 Speaker 1: kind really was a gimmick. This was the word that 602 00:35:22,897 --> 00:35:26,657 Speaker 1: he used back in two thousand and eight one. But 603 00:35:26,817 --> 00:35:30,617 Speaker 1: for us to suggest that thirty cents a day for 604 00:35:30,817 --> 00:35:35,857 Speaker 1: three months is real relief, that that's a real energy policy, 605 00:35:37,817 --> 00:35:41,297 Speaker 1: means that we are not tackling the problem that has 606 00:35:41,417 --> 00:35:48,617 Speaker 1: to be tackling. We are offering endemics, offering gimmicks. I 607 00:35:48,697 --> 00:35:52,417 Speaker 1: actually it sounds like Obama was right. Actually that's a gimmick. 608 00:35:52,457 --> 00:35:55,897 Speaker 1: Am I missing something? Yeah, this is gimmicky. It's it's 609 00:35:55,937 --> 00:35:57,337 Speaker 1: not a lot of money. But here's the thing. You 610 00:35:57,377 --> 00:36:00,137 Speaker 1: got to understand that their entire worldview is that this 611 00:36:00,297 --> 00:36:04,497 Speaker 1: is a cost to government. Everything implicitly belongs to the government. 612 00:36:04,537 --> 00:36:06,297 Speaker 1: When they allow you to pay a little less than 613 00:36:06,377 --> 00:36:09,097 Speaker 1: somehow they're giving you something. So that's I think first 614 00:36:09,137 --> 00:36:11,697 Speaker 1: and foremost, and I mean I would hate to see 615 00:36:11,737 --> 00:36:15,617 Speaker 1: Americans go through a really bad summer with exceedingly high 616 00:36:15,657 --> 00:36:19,297 Speaker 1: gas prices and god forbid, let's say, rolling blackouts in 617 00:36:19,377 --> 00:36:21,817 Speaker 1: the electrical grid when the whole country seems so hot 618 00:36:21,857 --> 00:36:23,937 Speaker 1: at you know, maybe this is what it takes. Maybe 619 00:36:24,017 --> 00:36:26,977 Speaker 1: that silver lining would be that we have to expose 620 00:36:27,097 --> 00:36:30,497 Speaker 1: Biden and these people for this absolutely insane idea that 621 00:36:30,617 --> 00:36:33,337 Speaker 1: we're going to stop burning oil and coal and natural 622 00:36:33,417 --> 00:36:37,737 Speaker 1: gas anytime soon and still have you know, reasonably priced 623 00:36:37,937 --> 00:36:40,577 Speaker 1: gasoline at the pump and air conditioning and all the 624 00:36:40,697 --> 00:36:43,377 Speaker 1: things we rely on every day. It's it's just unsustainable. 625 00:36:43,417 --> 00:36:46,097 Speaker 1: Green energy is not going to cut it here, and 626 00:36:46,257 --> 00:36:49,937 Speaker 1: so in that sense, you know, it's gimmicky, but it 627 00:36:50,097 --> 00:36:52,937 Speaker 1: maybe it helps us normal people start to see the light. 628 00:36:52,977 --> 00:36:56,417 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be pro energy for God's sake. Well, 629 00:36:56,457 --> 00:37:00,297 Speaker 1: it's also fascinating that you're hearing more openly than ever 630 00:37:00,417 --> 00:37:04,897 Speaker 1: before the Biden administration essentially saying, hey, you know, look, 631 00:37:04,937 --> 00:37:07,617 Speaker 1: your gas price is high, but it's really a lot 632 00:37:07,657 --> 00:37:11,137 Speaker 1: of it Poutin's fault. And so this comes down to 633 00:37:11,857 --> 00:37:14,417 Speaker 1: you want to stop the war in Ukraine and stand 634 00:37:14,537 --> 00:37:17,497 Speaker 1: up for democracy and stand up against Putin or pay 635 00:37:18,137 --> 00:37:20,377 Speaker 1: high gas or you know, or pay low gas prices. 636 00:37:20,777 --> 00:37:22,977 Speaker 1: That's the choice that we have. Here's what Biden said. 637 00:37:23,537 --> 00:37:27,257 Speaker 1: For all those Republicans in Congress criticize me today for 638 00:37:27,457 --> 00:37:30,537 Speaker 1: high gas prices in America. Are you now saying we 639 00:37:30,617 --> 00:37:33,937 Speaker 1: were wrong to support Ukraine? Are you saying we were 640 00:37:34,017 --> 00:37:37,417 Speaker 1: wrong to stand up to Putin? Are you saying that 641 00:37:37,537 --> 00:37:40,417 Speaker 1: we would rather have lower gas prices in America and 642 00:37:40,577 --> 00:37:44,897 Speaker 1: Putin's iron fist in Europe? What do you make of that? 643 00:37:45,577 --> 00:37:50,457 Speaker 1: Putin's iron fist in Europe? Wow, the next hitler, I suppose. Look, 644 00:37:51,057 --> 00:37:55,297 Speaker 1: the gas prices were rising before Putin invaded Ukraine for one. 645 00:37:55,897 --> 00:38:00,657 Speaker 1: The second, an exceedingly small portion of US imported oil 646 00:38:00,857 --> 00:38:04,257 Speaker 1: comes from Russia, so it's not a key player. This 647 00:38:04,417 --> 00:38:06,737 Speaker 1: is a refining issue in the United States. Doesn't matter 648 00:38:06,777 --> 00:38:09,857 Speaker 1: how much oil we drill here or how much we import. 649 00:38:10,257 --> 00:38:13,257 Speaker 1: The bottleneck is refining because we haven't built any refinery 650 00:38:13,297 --> 00:38:15,697 Speaker 1: since the seventies, and the big oil companies won't invest 651 00:38:15,777 --> 00:38:19,097 Speaker 1: in them because it's a big capital investment, takes decades 652 00:38:19,137 --> 00:38:22,097 Speaker 1: to repay, and you know everyone's telling us we're going 653 00:38:22,137 --> 00:38:25,297 Speaker 1: to be electric, so you got to understand they're a 654 00:38:25,377 --> 00:38:27,377 Speaker 1: little reluctant to do so. The idea that this is 655 00:38:27,417 --> 00:38:30,177 Speaker 1: on Putin is just absurd. Now, if you live in 656 00:38:30,257 --> 00:38:33,417 Speaker 1: Germany where they shut down all their nuclear plants and 657 00:38:33,457 --> 00:38:35,857 Speaker 1: they impourt a hell of a lot of oil from 658 00:38:36,257 --> 00:38:39,017 Speaker 1: Russia as a result, I guess you could blame Putin, 659 00:38:39,097 --> 00:38:41,137 Speaker 1: but more likely you should be blaming Angela Merkel. But 660 00:38:41,217 --> 00:38:45,977 Speaker 1: either way, it's just an absurd statement by Biden. And 661 00:38:46,457 --> 00:38:50,177 Speaker 1: then you have the inflation situation, which obviously energy prices 662 00:38:50,257 --> 00:38:53,417 Speaker 1: play into this, and it's all interconnected at some level. 663 00:38:53,657 --> 00:38:58,257 Speaker 1: But you have a situation now of inflation that looks 664 00:38:58,297 --> 00:39:01,537 Speaker 1: like it is not only at a multi decade high, 665 00:39:01,697 --> 00:39:04,457 Speaker 1: but could stay there for quite some time. The FED 666 00:39:04,537 --> 00:39:09,017 Speaker 1: Chairman Jerome Powell was saying that it is demand, not 667 00:39:10,257 --> 00:39:12,537 Speaker 1: money printing, that has pushed us this point. Watch this, 668 00:39:12,977 --> 00:39:18,297 Speaker 1: I just would say, it's clearly both factors are principally 669 00:39:18,337 --> 00:39:20,657 Speaker 1: at work here. You couldn't get this kind of high 670 00:39:20,697 --> 00:39:23,497 Speaker 1: inflation without strong demand, and you certainly couldn't get it 671 00:39:23,537 --> 00:39:26,337 Speaker 1: without the kind of supply issues that we've had, both 672 00:39:26,417 --> 00:39:28,777 Speaker 1: in the labor market reflected in high wages, and then 673 00:39:28,857 --> 00:39:33,777 Speaker 1: in the goods market, reflected in what's happened with durable 674 00:39:33,857 --> 00:39:36,657 Speaker 1: goods and cars in particularly. Look there, there's it's been 675 00:39:36,697 --> 00:39:42,457 Speaker 1: this driven by semiconductor shortage. So nothing nothing about trillions 676 00:39:42,497 --> 00:39:44,937 Speaker 1: of dollars for people to stay at home, Nothing about 677 00:39:44,977 --> 00:39:48,617 Speaker 1: two trillion from Biden for the American rescue plan. Didn't 678 00:39:48,617 --> 00:39:52,497 Speaker 1: rescue the country. That's real dampture. Well, and the Fed 679 00:39:52,657 --> 00:39:56,177 Speaker 1: added over nine trillion in brand new money to the 680 00:39:56,417 --> 00:39:59,497 Speaker 1: balance sheet of commercial banks over this COVID crisis as well, 681 00:39:59,577 --> 00:40:03,897 Speaker 1: So they're basically recapitalizing banks on our backs in terms 682 00:40:03,937 --> 00:40:06,297 Speaker 1: of inflating the dollars. So he you know, most people 683 00:40:06,337 --> 00:40:09,217 Speaker 1: don't view gas and groceries as some kind of luxury item, 684 00:40:09,297 --> 00:40:11,417 Speaker 1: and there's a lot more demand, I mean, demand for 685 00:40:12,017 --> 00:40:16,057 Speaker 1: calories and gasoline is pretty steady. People have to buy 686 00:40:16,177 --> 00:40:19,817 Speaker 1: those things. So I think Powell continues to sound pretty 687 00:40:19,857 --> 00:40:22,657 Speaker 1: out of touch and pretty aloof and maybe worst of all, 688 00:40:22,817 --> 00:40:25,577 Speaker 1: he continues to sound pretty political, like he's carrying water 689 00:40:25,657 --> 00:40:29,697 Speaker 1: for Biden. Yeah, thanks for being well, us appreciate it. 690 00:40:30,457 --> 00:40:34,297 Speaker 1: Thank you. Buck all right, coming up. An Australian newspaper 691 00:40:34,497 --> 00:40:38,217 Speaker 1: says that not talking to relatives could lower your risk 692 00:40:38,257 --> 00:40:42,177 Speaker 1: of COVID nineteen transmission. You don't say, we'll get into that, 693 00:40:42,417 --> 00:40:52,497 Speaker 1: and quick hit, it's time for some of those important stories. 694 00:40:52,577 --> 00:40:54,017 Speaker 1: We haven't gotten to you yet, and we didn't want 695 00:40:54,017 --> 00:40:56,897 Speaker 1: to let you go to sleep tonight without at least 696 00:40:56,937 --> 00:40:59,497 Speaker 1: knowing what's going on with all of them. So quick hits, 697 00:40:59,977 --> 00:41:02,137 Speaker 1: line them up, knock them down. Here we have it, 698 00:41:02,897 --> 00:41:06,297 Speaker 1: Harold's Son newspaper. They tweeted this out. A study from 699 00:41:06,377 --> 00:41:09,177 Speaker 1: proceedings of the National Academy of Science, Giving your co 700 00:41:09,337 --> 00:41:12,217 Speaker 1: workers and found remembers the silent treatment and texting, not 701 00:41:12,497 --> 00:41:15,017 Speaker 1: talking it would be the key to getting the COVID 702 00:41:15,057 --> 00:41:19,217 Speaker 1: pandemic under control. Speaking just four words an hour increases 703 00:41:19,217 --> 00:41:22,697 Speaker 1: the spread of COVID nineteen ten times more than breathing normally. 704 00:41:23,417 --> 00:41:26,777 Speaker 1: So basically, if we're going to stop COVID, which we 705 00:41:26,857 --> 00:41:30,457 Speaker 1: are never going to do, which is impossible, which is 706 00:41:30,497 --> 00:41:34,217 Speaker 1: what we've seen now for two plus years, going on 707 00:41:34,457 --> 00:41:37,577 Speaker 1: three years, give me a break. There's no stopping COVID, 708 00:41:37,657 --> 00:41:39,817 Speaker 1: just like there's no stopping the common cold. This should 709 00:41:39,857 --> 00:41:43,937 Speaker 1: have been known all along, but they're telling you, well, 710 00:41:43,977 --> 00:41:46,137 Speaker 1: maybe if you just shut up and don't speak peasants, 711 00:41:46,617 --> 00:41:49,417 Speaker 1: we'll have a better chance of slowing down the virus, 712 00:41:50,217 --> 00:41:55,657 Speaker 1: which is absurd and insane, and you think yourself, they 713 00:41:55,737 --> 00:41:58,537 Speaker 1: can't really believe that this is the O. Don't know? 714 00:41:58,657 --> 00:42:01,297 Speaker 1: They do? They do? They think that this is good advice, 715 00:42:01,537 --> 00:42:03,617 Speaker 1: you know, they think that this is necessary for people 716 00:42:03,697 --> 00:42:06,577 Speaker 1: to hear at this point. And then, speaking of the insane, 717 00:42:06,697 --> 00:42:14,057 Speaker 1: the CEO of biser CEO named Albert Bula, he's out 718 00:42:14,057 --> 00:42:16,497 Speaker 1: there telling everybody what I've been saying now for over 719 00:42:16,537 --> 00:42:20,497 Speaker 1: a year is so it's gonna be a new vaccine 720 00:42:20,777 --> 00:42:23,977 Speaker 1: every year. And if you believe that the COVID vaccine 721 00:42:24,017 --> 00:42:29,057 Speaker 1: should be mandatory, it's mandatory shot for everyone, babies to 722 00:42:29,257 --> 00:42:32,377 Speaker 1: old people, everybody in between, every year and if you 723 00:42:32,457 --> 00:42:34,617 Speaker 1: won't get it, you should get fired. That's what the 724 00:42:34,777 --> 00:42:38,697 Speaker 1: Libs believe, which is appalling because they were wrong about 725 00:42:38,697 --> 00:42:41,497 Speaker 1: all this. It doesn't stop the spread. You need three shots, 726 00:42:41,777 --> 00:42:43,937 Speaker 1: and even with the three shots, you can still get sick, 727 00:42:44,097 --> 00:42:45,857 Speaker 1: and you know the whole thing, and even if you 728 00:42:45,897 --> 00:42:47,737 Speaker 1: get the three shots, you can still die. In fact, 729 00:42:47,817 --> 00:42:50,337 Speaker 1: you're less likely too than people who don't get any shots. 730 00:42:50,497 --> 00:42:53,417 Speaker 1: But if you're in the high risk category. Yeah, we 731 00:42:53,497 --> 00:42:56,177 Speaker 1: all know this right, But yet here's the CEO Fiser 732 00:42:56,217 --> 00:42:59,377 Speaker 1: tell on everybody you might have to get shots every year, 733 00:42:59,697 --> 00:43:02,457 Speaker 1: just like we said, do you think we're going to 734 00:43:02,577 --> 00:43:08,097 Speaker 1: get updated mRNA vaccines every season that will be directed 735 00:43:08,177 --> 00:43:10,697 Speaker 1: to each new variation of the Corona virus? And what 736 00:43:10,857 --> 00:43:14,657 Speaker 1: we have to take those shots every year? I'm almost 737 00:43:14,697 --> 00:43:17,257 Speaker 1: certain about it. And I say almost certain because of 738 00:43:17,377 --> 00:43:19,857 Speaker 1: course regulators can the final say in all of that. 739 00:43:20,177 --> 00:43:27,137 Speaker 1: But that's the beauty of mRNA, the beauty of mRNA. Yes, 740 00:43:27,417 --> 00:43:30,137 Speaker 1: you see, it's almost like a massive multi billion dollar 741 00:43:30,337 --> 00:43:33,937 Speaker 1: year annuity for companies like Fiser. Just have a little 742 00:43:34,017 --> 00:43:36,417 Speaker 1: tweaked to the mRNA for the new variant and then 743 00:43:36,497 --> 00:43:39,577 Speaker 1: make everyone get the shot. Does it help them make 744 00:43:39,617 --> 00:43:42,097 Speaker 1: a difference? This is just like the flu shot, folks, 745 00:43:42,177 --> 00:43:45,937 Speaker 1: which kind of works for some people. Sometimes. We didn't 746 00:43:45,937 --> 00:43:47,697 Speaker 1: make everybody get that because we know a lot of 747 00:43:47,697 --> 00:43:49,137 Speaker 1: times doesn't do a damn thing. A lot of people 748 00:43:49,137 --> 00:43:52,057 Speaker 1: don't need it. We already have the template for how 749 00:43:52,057 --> 00:43:53,937 Speaker 1: to go forward as a society. Forget about all this 750 00:43:54,057 --> 00:43:57,417 Speaker 1: not We already know treat the treat COVID like we've 751 00:43:57,457 --> 00:44:01,097 Speaker 1: treated the flu for the last fifty years, last hundred years, 752 00:44:01,657 --> 00:44:05,857 Speaker 1: but instead this is where we are more authoritarian, lunacy, 753 00:44:06,017 --> 00:44:09,057 Speaker 1: more madness from these people. At least we can have 754 00:44:09,257 --> 00:44:12,017 Speaker 1: some amusement by watching the White House continue to just 755 00:44:12,977 --> 00:44:18,697 Speaker 1: descend into the abyss of electoral destruction, which is going 756 00:44:18,777 --> 00:44:20,217 Speaker 1: to be a lot of fun in this mid term. 757 00:44:20,857 --> 00:44:22,977 Speaker 1: The new White House Press relatively new White House Press 758 00:44:22,977 --> 00:44:26,417 Speaker 1: Secretary Karine Jean Pierre, said something, Look, I know it's 759 00:44:26,817 --> 00:44:29,857 Speaker 1: a little verbal slip up, but kind of funny anyway, 760 00:44:29,937 --> 00:44:32,697 Speaker 1: watched about I mean, the President has been very clear 761 00:44:32,937 --> 00:44:35,257 Speaker 1: and making sure that he does everything that he can 762 00:44:36,337 --> 00:44:42,097 Speaker 1: to elevate to alleviate the you know, the pain that 763 00:44:42,337 --> 00:44:44,697 Speaker 1: American families are feeling when it comes to gas prices,