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Speaker 1: we are Last Radio archiving the brilliance legacies and geniuses

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Speaker 1: So yeah, thanks for coming, thanks for listening, for being,

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Speaker 1: thanks for being here with us. We're barely here, okay. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we like have been working per usual right as you know, UM.

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Speaker 1: And you know, last night we were actually at MacArthur

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Speaker 1: Park for um Levitt l A's Columbian Independence Day celebrations.

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Speaker 1: And it's going to be at Delicious Pizza. And they

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Speaker 1: a Pianna party pizza parlor. Yes, a literation my favorite.

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Speaker 1: towards um the end. We do have a guest coming on.

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Speaker 1: We have a guest on half, so stay tuned for that,

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Speaker 1: stay tuned or from it. And and we're back. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for staying with us. We have with us today

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Speaker 1: a special guest. We're gonna let her introduce herself. My

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Speaker 1: name is Angel also known as Hey Girl. Thanks for

429
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Speaker 1: being here, Thank you for having me. I'm super excited

430
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Speaker 1: we finally have been able to connect in the flesh

431
00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 1: like definitely similar to Mama and I I have been

432
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 1: following angel a K and for a while now, like

433
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Speaker 1: a few years now, So it's nice to like find

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Speaker 1: they connect and have you on the show. I'm super

435
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,600
Speaker 1: excited to talk about all the amazing work that you're doing.

436
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: Thank you. And we've been trying to get you on

437
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 1: the show like all summer and yeah, so we're excited

438
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 1: to finally finally be sitting down together and chat and

439
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: get to know each other. And even just before we

440
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: started recording, already getting into really exciting conversation. Yeah, Angel,

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Speaker 1: do you want to tell us, like just so our

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Speaker 1: listeners can get to know you, maybe like where you're from,

443
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 1: what brings you to l A, and like what you're

444
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,720
Speaker 1: working on right now? Yeah, totally. I'm from the Bay Area, California,

445
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: grew up in Redwood City, and then later on in adulthood,

446
00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 1: was really based in Oakland. Um. It's really in Oakland

447
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,520
Speaker 1: that I started a lot of my work. UM, and

448
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: my work stemmed from yoga. So I was trained in

449
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: nairoga yoga teacher institute in Berkeley, and I started doing

450
00:25:55,600 --> 00:26:00,040
Speaker 1: exclusive q T POC only yoga classes in Oakland and

451
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: back in I believe it was two thousand fifteen, UM,

452
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 1: And from there I spent like about a year just

453
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Speaker 1: doing that, and um, after that, I moved up to

454
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: Portland to keep doing some work, and up there, um

455
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 1: is when I started doing a lot more sex work

456
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: and um stripping in particular, UM, but also got into

457
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 1: some queer porn, which I was really excited about and

458
00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:25,919
Speaker 1: like really wanted to do for a long time. And

459
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: um that's kind of where it was for a while

460
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: up in Portland, and now that I'm here in l A.

461
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,240
Speaker 1: I just really wanted to reach a bigger audience. I

462
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: was looking for more people like me and I don't

463
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: know if anyone knows, but Portland is very, very white,

464
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: so um, it was really hard for me to find

465
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 1: community out there that really wanted the the resources and

466
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: and everything that I was offering. So UM, I kind

467
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,399
Speaker 1: of figured I wanted to go back to California and

468
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: the Bay didn't seem feasible, so I came down to

469
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: l A. I had enough people down here telling me like,

470
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: we want your stuff down here. Are so come through

471
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: And so I've been um stripping out here, making porn

472
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: out here. UM and yoga classes are still happening and

473
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 1: they're q tipoc only still, so you do a lot

474
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: whole lot. You do a lot, and so um, it's

475
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: interesting because I feel like you are super intentional with

476
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: the work that you do, and even just hearing you

477
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: talk about it before we started recording, and like the

478
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: thought that you put into it and how the erotic

479
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 1: is power seems to be like central across the different mediums.

480
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk a little bit more about

481
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 1: like sexiest magic, erotic is power? Yeah? So I think

482
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: a lot of us um in general, who aren't sismail

483
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:48,360
Speaker 1: are often demonized for our erotic power or um just

484
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: not allowed to have it. We're not allowed to express

485
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:53,880
Speaker 1: our erotic nous in any sort of capacity without being

486
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: demonized for it, villainized for it, or um allowed to

487
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 1: have it at all. Um, And even we are allowed

488
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: to have it, it's put in these various, like really

489
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,680
Speaker 1: intense categories that a lot of us don't fit into.

490
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 1: We're not all horrors, We're not all virgins, like a

491
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: lot of us are somewhere in between. And um, what

492
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 1: my work is really about is empowering all of us

493
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: to take our own erotic selves and create that for ourselves,

494
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 1: not let the patriarchy really like allow us to deem

495
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: what we want as desirable and for us to be

496
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: able to like categorize ourselves where we want to be

497
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: desirable or how we want to be seen. And feminists also,

498
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,439
Speaker 1: like us feminists is very central to the podcast and

499
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: just who we are, lives, identities, all of that. So

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Speaker 1: for you like feminist femininity, Like, what does that mean

501
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: in terms of the erotic as power because I think

502
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: like we can also talk about like are as fems

503
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: like claiming that power or strength, you know, claiming sexuality

504
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: and autonomy. Yeah, I mean, I think fems are already

505
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: really eroticized, you know. I think in general, like fems

506
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 1: are often put in this um category of providing sexual

507
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: labor for the various people that were intimate with and

508
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: even the people that were not intimate with. You know,

509
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: fems are often put in that category to be nurturing,

510
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 1: to be sexual, to be sexual how other people want

511
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 1: to be sexual, to be passive, to be submissive. And

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00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: my work has really centered around empowering fems to take

513
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: what's theirs and to um claim themselves. However they need

514
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: to claim themselves and um like their erotic nous being

515
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: out of something that they want to do and not

516
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: other people. Yeah, I like that really resonates with me.

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00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 1: And I've talked about this before on the podcast, but

518
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Speaker 1: kind of like for me, the identity of like the

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00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: s f M for me, that came out of um

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00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: sexual violence, right and actually reclaiming my body. And that's

521
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: like where the persona of the STAD was born, right

522
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: because I started identifying or really coming into my own

523
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: feminists and seeing like, well, my body actually does exist

524
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: for my own pleasure. And just because I have experienced

525
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: violence against me, UM, doesn't mean that I'm not allowed

526
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Speaker 1: to feel pleasure again or anymore, you know what I mean.

527
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: So for me, UM, that is like where the feminists

528
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: and we're like understanding like the goddess within me, right,

529
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 1: and we've talked about that in various episodes. UM So

530
00:30:26,680 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 1: yeah exactly, Like I think, like your exactly. I agree

531
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: with what you're saying about claiming your body and reclaiming

532
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: it and really like setting the terms like for what

533
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 1: you want and what you need and letting that be okay.

534
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: Also like, okay, I think it's so interesting this idea

535
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: that so fans are expected to perform this sexual labor

536
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 1: but also to be passive and submissive at the same time,

537
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: and how so often like that's such a requirement is

538
00:30:55,640 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 1: to do two opposites a fine time. Body these dichotomies

539
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: that don't make any sense. They don't make any sense.

540
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: How am I supposed to please you but also be

541
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 1: passive on I think it also has to do with

542
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: like how each person affects the dynamic. You know, every

543
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: fem has their own kind of energy about them, And

544
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: when you go into a space, like some people will

545
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: assume things about you because because of your feminists or

546
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: um you know, like pronouns for example. You know, every

547
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: fem supposedly like it's probably going to be called she

548
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,600
Speaker 1: a lot of the time, you know, but not all

549
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: fems are she. You know, some people go by day

550
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of assumptions about fems in general.

551
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,600
Speaker 1: So I really think it has to do with like whoever,

552
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: whoever you meet, it's it's wherever it's bringing those assumptions

553
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 1: to you. And it does depend on who it is

554
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: as to whether you're going to embody that thing that

555
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: they want or also just as a reminder of fem

556
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: is a queer identity. Just want to continue to put

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00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: that out there. Yeah, feminist for queer, I see it

558
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: and it's such a weird at least for me, Like

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00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: it's a weird um ilog in conversation to have UM.

560
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 1: And I don't want to sidetrack too much, but I

561
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: do want to put this out there, like it is

562
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: a FEMI raiser right to assume that maybe FEM presenting

563
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: folks aren't queer. So it's like a really for me,

564
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 1: like a really hard dialogue to have because I'm like, well,

565
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: how do I know that this person isn't queer? Right?

566
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,719
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But also so just going

567
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: to put it out there that fem is a queer identity.

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00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you? So oh yeah, okay. Something we

569
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: also like to talk about is fem armor. Yes, yes,

570
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: so fem armor is so many things, right, Like it

571
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: could be our clothes, it could be our makeup, it

572
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: could be the way that we talk UM. But I

573
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: also want to kind of empower people to think of

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00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: fem armor as as like building their bodies, like allowing

575
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:53,480
Speaker 1: your body to be strong and healthy to whatever capacity

576
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:57,560
Speaker 1: you have UM, and that being armor as well having

577
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: your self defense like ready to go in case you

578
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: need it, because this world is not made for fems.

579
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: This world is not going to protect fems. A lot

580
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: of the time we protect our own. So um I

581
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 1: I a lot of my work surrounds like really building

582
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: people in their own strengths, like knowing what it is

583
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: that you're strong in and like making sure that you

584
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: like arm yourself in the world that way. Yeah. Absolutely,

585
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 1: And so you use, um your yoga training and your

586
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: pole dancing as like weaponry in that way to like

587
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: you know, have your armor. Like you're saying, um, so

588
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: can you talk a little bit more about the pole

589
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: dancing that you teach and the yoga classes that you teach,

590
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: and like how that informs the rest of your work.

591
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: And dancing is not easy. One class one time and

592
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: I was like, this is really hard. I took a

593
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 1: few classes one time, but it was like post like

594
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: I had a trainer, so I still had my upper

595
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 1: body strength, so I was like doing it okay, But now,

596
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: like I can't imagine like going back to it. Very hard.

597
00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: Pole dance is hard. I started with yoga. I think

598
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: for most things, UM I recommend to start with yoga

599
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: always because like it's a nice space. It's like a

600
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 1: nice place to kind of come into your body and

601
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: um see your body as medicine and kind of take

602
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: in what medicine your body has. UM after that, Um,

603
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: pole dancing is a whole other story. Like it's it

604
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: really depends on what you make it. For me. I've

605
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: always done a lot of one on ones in small groups. UM.

606
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 1: I prefer it that way. I like to do things

607
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: outside of studios, just because studios don't always have accessibility

608
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 1: for folks um or. There's a lot of white people

609
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: and people don't feel comfortable. There's a lot of like

610
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 1: thin people and they don't feel comfortable. There's there's just

611
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: this element of um otherness that's always put onto a

612
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: lot of different bodies when it comes to pole studios.

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Speaker 1: So I've really tried to make my work more accessible

614
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: by just staying out of those places. Yeah. Um out

615
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: here in l A. I'm actually UM teaching in Long

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00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:04,919
Speaker 1: Beach Okay, Yeah, out at Flora, which is UM Mama

617
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 1: Maes is little project. So she's the one who started

618
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: me out with yoga classes out here, and hopefully probably

619
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Speaker 1: by I'll say August is when we're going to get

620
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: started with the pole dancing classes. So if people are

621
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: interested in learning more about your pole dancing class offerings,

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00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: where can they find the info? How can they hit

623
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: you up? Like, how can they look into the information? Okay, well, um,

624
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: I have a couple of different places you could go. Um,

625
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: mainly is like my email. Just email me at gmail

626
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: dot com. That's like the best way to get in

627
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,440
Speaker 1: contact with me if you want to do private lessons.

628
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: And that's what's successful right now is private lessons. Later on,

629
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Speaker 1: if they're looking for like more class offerings, I'm going

630
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: to be doing those on my Instagram, which is d

631
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 1: um and that's always that's that's more of like my

632
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: crochet stuff. But I do like every so often put

633
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: my offerings on there, like my class offerings. Um. Yeah,

634
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: that's that's pretty much where to go for that. Great,

635
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: that's amazing. I think moll and I are going to

636
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: have to scare think I'm like seeing it. Yeah, I

637
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Speaker 1: would love it to I would love to. Yes, okay, fabulous, Yes, yes, yes,

638
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,280
Speaker 1: so Okay. Something else that I think it's really important

639
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: to talk about and that we've talked about before is

640
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:30,759
Speaker 1: like fems and money. Yes, fems and money. All of

641
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: your wealth. Give us all your money, give us money sources,

642
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: so give us your benefits. What is it? Men? Wealth? Exactly.

643
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: There's I think a lot of different ways that different people,

644
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: different fems, um figure out, you know, how to tap

645
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 1: into that and redistribute. Well there, make sure they're getting paid.

646
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: What have you? That financial security in a capitalist society,

647
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 1: you have to have money, Yes, you have to, so

648
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: like tell us like thoughts around that and maybe how

649
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: you go about that redistribution. Okay, Well, Um, I think

650
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: a lot of sex workers are like redistributors of wealth. Um.

651
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: I think that's in general. UM, I know a lot

652
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: of queer fem sex workers. I think the majority of

653
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:22,399
Speaker 1: my community is queer sex workers or fem um. And

654
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 1: all of these people are organizers. All of these people

655
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: are like really important members of their communities and they're

656
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: always supporting various causes um. And a lot of it

657
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 1: has to do with like homelessness or mental illness and

658
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 1: various other things that you know we go through as

659
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 1: a community. UM. And like, I don't know, money. Money

660
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,799
Speaker 1: is this like really interesting thing. It's like real and

661
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: not real at the same time. You know, it's like

662
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 1: something that you can like bring into your life by

663
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: like thinking about it, but it's also like a thing

664
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: that you have to create action to get um and

665
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: with sex work. I mean honestly, sex work has been

666
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: my saving grace. Like if it wasn't for sex work,

667
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been able to move out here. If

668
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: it wasn't for sex work, I wouldn't have been able

669
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: to do a lot of the stuff that I wanted

670
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: to do. Um and hoole dancing. Um, it's really closely

671
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: tied to sex work, you know. Like a lot of

672
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 1: people will try and separate those two things, but they're there.

673
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: They can't be separated. Like people who are going into

674
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: pull dancing studios want to look like strippers, like that's

675
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 1: that's their goal, and like to demonize strippers while looking

676
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 1: like a stripper just makes you look really silly, you know. Um,

677
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,319
Speaker 1: And these people who are getting money, we're not just

678
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 1: getting money to like supply our lives with all these

679
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 1: like really decadent stuff. Like I can tell you right now,

680
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: I'm still broke, Like, but I'm giving back to my

681
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: community as much as possible. Whenever I've got the money,

682
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: if someone needs it is theirs, you know. Because I'm

683
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 1: able to get big chunks of money at a time,

684
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: I feel responsible to like give that money back whenever

685
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: I can right right. I was reading there was some

686
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: study that was done and I don't know, there was

687
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: a conversation going on about how like the wealthiest people

688
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: tend to be like sociopaths, right, and how to really

689
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:14,439
Speaker 1: like gage yes, to how to really gain that sort

690
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,879
Speaker 1: of wealth you have to be okay with exploiting other

691
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: people and with not sharing your money, And how like

692
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,760
Speaker 1: a lot of people of color, most people of color

693
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: who are even you know maybe with with steady incomes

694
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: or making good money, we don't hold onto our money

695
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 1: because we can't because we also don't want to because

696
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 1: we're supporting our families or communities people around us. So

697
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: what the money doesn't stay with us? And I think

698
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: it's just so interesting how like this is up us,

699
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: these economies that we create like internally, you know, to

700
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: stay slow. Yeah, I mean we talked about that in

701
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: our last episode episode about how like when women especially

702
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: have money and like their homegirl needs it, like we

703
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: will give them the money, yes, potation, Like it's like

704
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: you need a hundred dollars, of course, I'm going to

705
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 1: give you this hundred dollars. I've totally like taken a

706
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 1: whole shift at work just to be able to support someone,

707
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: like to be able to give them at least three

708
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: because you know, like there's definitely been a lot of

709
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: um giving back as much as possible. And I think

710
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: it just has to do with privilege too. It's like,

711
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,080
Speaker 1: when you have certain privileges, I think it's necessary and

712
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: responsible to be giving back. Agreed, Agreed. Who Yeah, also

713
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: just like taken money. I mean you know, also men

714
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:40,719
Speaker 1: don't do a lot with it, to be honest, just

715
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: take their money, honestly. The other topic that we like

716
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: can still talk about is this idea of the brave

717
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: space versus a safe space. So can we talk more

718
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 1: about what is the difference, what are the similarities, Like,

719
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: how does one go about setting up one versus the other?

720
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,239
Speaker 1: That's a yeah, that's a great time thick. Okay, I

721
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: did not come up with this term. This is a

722
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: term that like I feel like I learned in Seattle

723
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: because I've heard this term to like here in like

724
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 1: nonprofit stuff. I've heard that. Yeah. So for me, creating

725
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 1: brave space means being vulnerable too, Yeah, just just being

726
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: you're letting yourself be more vulnerable than you would I

727
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: think creating safe spaces it's relative creating safe space, safe

728
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:31,440
Speaker 1: space for who you know, and and also like what

729
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: does that mean safety because everyone's safety is different, and

730
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: saying safe space like maybe it's safe for you and

731
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: you've created this space to be safe for you, but

732
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: anyone who enters might not feel that same way. So

733
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,240
Speaker 1: it's I think it's harder to create a safe space

734
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,919
Speaker 1: than it is to create a brave space. A brave

735
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: space being something that's like similar, something that's going to

736
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: be welcoming and um, open minded and of course like

737
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 1: relatively safe. But I don't think that any of us

738
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 1: are able to really create safe space for other people.

739
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,240
Speaker 1: It's really up to ourselves to create that safe space

740
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: for ourselves to go into any space. Um And I

741
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,600
Speaker 1: think in general, shifting this idea to going into more

742
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: brave spaces versus safe spaces, it's like we're we need

743
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: to we need to have more stuff in our lives

744
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: that we allow other people to be vulnerable with, and

745
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 1: we have to be vulnerable ourselves to be able to

746
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 1: get to those spaces. I made the mutual sorry, the

747
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 1: mutual vulnerability and exchange of energy. I think it's really important, absolutely.

748
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: I love I'm just looking at the notes and about

749
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: creating consent and validating fem rage in terms of brave spaces.

750
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,799
Speaker 1: And that also makes me think of, like, so a

751
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: brave space maybe could be a place where we are

752
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,279
Speaker 1: not afraid to exercise necessarily that fem rage or like

753
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: self defense or like check somebody, or like speak plainly

754
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: and bluntly and like firmly, you know, when we're uncomfortable

755
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: or when we're being treated badly, because I think sometimes

756
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,760
Speaker 1: it ends up happening. Is like you look at people

757
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: who are like activists or fucking much staffs or like

758
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 1: meninists and taking these ideas of like trauma informed language

759
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,840
Speaker 1: or like safety and flipping it so you can't be angry,

760
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 1: you can't get it where you can't expect express anger,

761
00:43:15,560 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: you can't cuss like some funker out for you know,

762
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,439
Speaker 1: violating you in some ways. Right, So like I think

763
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: that I like that possibility that opening. Yeah, well yeah,

764
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: I think that's something that we need to have space

765
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: for it. We need to be able to create space

766
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: that allows for anger to be valid because fens have

767
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: a ton of anger. We have we have been like

768
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 1: taking advantage of so much. Like I think there's so

769
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 1: much time, money and labor that we've put into various communities,

770
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 1: various people, mask people. I'm just like getting mad all

771
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: over and the bard there's there's so much that's all,

772
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, there's so much less ode and the validation

773
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 1: of rage sometimes that's all you need to start feeling

774
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,200
Speaker 1: better to be able to move forward to the next steps,

775
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: because at that point, when you're able to validate your rage,

776
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 1: you're able to even just find out what it is

777
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: you're mad about. Yeah. Absolutely, Yesterday I was like talking

778
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: about like problems I had with a program I was

779
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: a part of. Issues I had with a program I

780
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 1: was a part of, and it had everything to do

781
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: with exploitation of like are like labors lettin us? Right,

782
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: And I'm telling this story, and I like crushed my cup.

783
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: And I didn't realize it until I was done talking,

784
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 1: and I was like, look at my fucking cop. Is

785
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: this how this makes me rage? But I mean, it's

786
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: like we're putting into this society that is told, has

787
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 1: told us, has scammed us to believe that, like we

788
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: can't be without a masculine counterpart, and that this masculine

789
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:53,760
Speaker 1: counterpart is going to provide and give you this great

790
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: life and you're going to be like reciprocating all the time.

791
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 1: But the reality is is that a lot of the

792
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: time it's a really unbalanced to scam. Yeah, it's a

793
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: really unbalanced thing. And it really is like you need

794
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: to be intentional with how you operate with fens because like,

795
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: if you don't, you could be taking their time there,

796
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: then their energy, and that's money. And we only have

797
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: so much left to give, not everybody's gotten limitless amounts

798
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 1: give back to ourselves to put into our creative projects,

799
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:26,240
Speaker 1: to put into our work. Our families are like our friends.

800
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: And emotional capacity is totally a real thing. Yes, it

801
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: is that, and and fems are not a limitless resource. No.

802
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: I constantly like feeling tired after I like engage when

803
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: I put all that, when I put that energetic, that

804
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:45,320
Speaker 1: energy out there, and it's not evenly redistribute, redistributed or

805
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: given back to me. I like exhausted, of course, right,

806
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: and not just in relationships, but just in general, like

807
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 1: work or family or whatever. That looks like. I'm thinking.

808
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 1: I started to get upset thinking about this one time,

809
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:00,400
Speaker 1: this x um we had broken up already and he

810
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 1: texted me like, oh, you know, I really I miss you,

811
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: and I miss like hearing like your ideas about my work.

812
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And I'm like, so you need you

813
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: need So what I'm hearing is you needed me to

814
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: tell you what to do with your work, so you

815
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: don't miss me. You missed the labor that I was

816
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: giving into your work and the ideas that I was

817
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:27,120
Speaker 1: bringing for you, you know. And I literally was like

818
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: um no, like no, no, no, no, no, no, just no,

819
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,880
Speaker 1: right right right. So then thinking I'm thinking about again,

820
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 1: like revisiting the idea of brave space and allowing for

821
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: firm rage fu lutely, because then like we do express

822
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: our rage and then we're like crazy or we're you know, villainized,

823
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 1: demonized and all of these things, and it's like, well,

824
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,840
Speaker 1: you made me fucking bad, and like I have my

825
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 1: fucking breaking point, you know, the crazy I think it's

826
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: gas lighting. But all that being said, I think that

827
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: you know, we are coming towards the end of our time,

828
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: the end of this interview, so we just want to

829
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: make sure we plug everything everything, everything, all your businesses,

830
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: your project classes. Where can people find you following support? Okay, um,

831
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: if you're interested in my queer porn sex work related

832
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: type of stuff. My Instagram is mummy period, um harpie,

833
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 1: so that one, that one's brand new. Hopefully I don't

834
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: get shut down because you know, Instagram and shutting down

835
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: all sex from our accounts, so you know, try and

836
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: support as much as you can through that. UM. But

837
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: my work is on there. Um and then I have

838
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 1: a couple of like films coming out. Crash Pad series

839
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: is coming out with another UM video of mine soon

840
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 1: and then um high Creatives dot com is also has

841
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: another video another porn thing. So that's for that type

842
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: of stuff. Now for pole dancing, yoga, crochet, a lot

843
00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: of the other more like vanilla civilian entire stuff. I love.

844
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: That's what we call you guys. Yeah, for all that

845
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. That on Instagram is where you can

846
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: get me. Um. That one I'm hoping won't ever get

847
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,960
Speaker 1: shut down. I don't see why it would, but yeah,

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