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Speaker 1: Wow, Hey everybody, it's Monday, August fourteenth, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we've got

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Speaker 1: some work to do, but we like where we're at

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Speaker 1: right now. It's been your man named g Marcus Grand

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Speaker 1: joined by Michael f. Florio in studio. We got Specialist,

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Speaker 1: we got high Film, we got Susie, we got josh Ah.

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Speaker 1: It's nice to be back in California after the weekend.

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Speaker 1: It was a good weekend, but it's nice to be home.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You you must. I don't know if you're struggling or

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Speaker 3: not today, but you've had a weekend. Yeah, man.

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Speaker 1: I for those who don't know, I was fortunate enough

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Speaker 1: to go to the Fantasy Football Expo in Canton, Ohio

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Speaker 1: this weekend, and you know, I tried to get back

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Speaker 1: at a reasonable time. I was back home by about

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Speaker 1: six o'clock last night so I.

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Speaker 2: Could rest up.

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Speaker 1: Because things are real now, man, like training camp and

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Speaker 1: preseason games are happening. But the expo was an amazing time.

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Speaker 1: I've been fortunate enough to go the last two years.

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Speaker 1: Huge shout out to Bob Lung. It's really a family

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Speaker 1: affair because Bob is sort of the main organizer, but

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Speaker 1: I know his wife has heavily evolved his kids. Like

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Speaker 1: one of his daughters is sort of the official photographer

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Speaker 1: of the Wee Games. I think her boyfriend does video

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Speaker 1: and they all kind of help and pitch in for

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Speaker 1: the social.

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Speaker 2: Media event of it.

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Speaker 1: It has grown enormously to the point that des Bryant

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Speaker 1: had his own a flag football team out there. He

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Speaker 1: played flag. I think they won it. He played quarterback

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Speaker 1: as is left handed. In case you didn't know, it

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Speaker 1: was great. We got to get you out there next year.

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Speaker 3: I've already I'm going next year. I wanted to go

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Speaker 3: last minute. It wasn't in the cards, but I had

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Speaker 3: major FOMO all weekend watching you guys, everyone be out there,

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Speaker 3: and so many people that I know who have worked

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Speaker 3: with or I know from different things. So I didn't know,

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Speaker 3: we're going, We're there, and I was just like every

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Speaker 3: time I saw a picture of someone I know being there,

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Speaker 3: I just got sadder. So I was like, I am

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent going next season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's great. It's it's a great way

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Speaker 1: to reconnect with people that you know. It's a great

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Speaker 1: way to you know, meet new people or maybe people

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Speaker 1: that you only know as you know faces or voices

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Speaker 1: on the internet.

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Speaker 2: It is an absolutely wonderful time.

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Speaker 1: If you have not had a chance to go out

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Speaker 1: there to Canton for the expo, I highly recommend you

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Speaker 1: do it always in August, usually the week after the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame game, So start making your plans now

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Speaker 1: for next summer. It's wonderful and honestly, like does Bryant

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Speaker 1: embracing it, I think is only is only huge for

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Speaker 1: it because maybe he convinces more former athletes to show up,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a wonderful, wonderful thing. Anyway, onto the

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Speaker 1: fantasy football kind of analysis.

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Speaker 2: Part of the show. We are going through our division.

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Speaker 1: Previews today is the AFC North uh and we also

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Speaker 1: have a special guest and maybe we should have held

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Speaker 1: us to the AFC South, but whatever, Chris Johnson c

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Speaker 1: J two K. We'll be dropping in to talk a

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Speaker 1: little bit about his post football life and get his

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Speaker 1: So really looking forward to that before we get into

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Speaker 1: the AFC North. Though, we had a chance a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago to go to Chargers camp. It was

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Speaker 1: a lot of fun. We had been trying to go

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Speaker 1: for years. It was great. I got to talk to

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Speaker 1: a number of people. We played almost all of those

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Speaker 1: interviews for you last week on the show. We didn't

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Speaker 1: do one Darius Davis, the rookie from TCU. You know,

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Speaker 1: we talked about it and look, I mean, let's be honest, floral,

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Speaker 1: like you know, not to be mean, but people aren't

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Speaker 1: drafting Darius Davis right, I mean later round pick in

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Speaker 1: a crowded wide receiver room. Even when we talked to him,

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Speaker 3: I think he greatly improved his chances.

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Speaker 1: He approved his chances with an eighty plus yard return

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Speaker 1: touchdown over the weekend. Shout out to Susie, who is

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Speaker 1: a Charger fan, a resident Charger fan, who dropped it

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Speaker 2: Crap, Thereius Davis is doing things. So we're like, we

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Speaker 2: we still have the interview.

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Speaker 1: So we figured that's a great opportunity for us to

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Speaker 1: drop in the Darius Davis interview. He was really wonderful

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Speaker 1: to talk to. We're rooting for him to make the team.

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Speaker 2: Make some plays.

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Speaker 1: So I'll let you hear what he had to say

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Speaker 1: right now here with Chargers receiver Darius Davis said, Darius, man,

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Speaker 1: appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: How you feeling today?

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 5: It was a great work work day today and got

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Speaker 5: after today, we got better.

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Speaker 1: So what's the adjustment been like coming in from college

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Speaker 5: The adjustment, I feel like just learning the plays because

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Speaker 5: you know, like how we signal out plays in college

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Speaker 5: straight from the sideline. So now we're in a hotel.

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Speaker 5: It's like a sentence like the like the play college

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Speaker 5: but like the play, like the practice style. I feel

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Speaker 5: like we practiced like this at TCU, you know, getting

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Speaker 3: And speaking of TCU, how is the adjustment been made

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Speaker 3: any easier having Quentin and Max here with you?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 5: You know, just having someone that you having a quarterback

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Speaker 5: then having Quintin out there and make this transition way easier.

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Speaker 1: So, I mean, you were in a crowded wide receiver room,

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Speaker 5: You know, special teams, you know, that's that's I think

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Speaker 5: that's where I need to stand out the most special

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Speaker 5: So just being an asset to this team and the

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Speaker 3: And how does playing behind like Keenan Allen Mike Williams

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, we just watching Keenan every time we

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Speaker 1: So I mean coming in obviously playing play with Max

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Speaker 1: What's that adjustment of like trying to catch footballs from

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Speaker 2: I've been throwing back.

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Speaker 5: So it's pretty like pretty like on game just transition

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Speaker 5: It's like he's seeking miss too, so like you gotta

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Speaker 5: and you don't point the kiss the ball. So how

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Speaker 5: you like in California so far, I'm loving the weather,

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Speaker 5: but you know, I'm from Louisiana. But the food, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna lose down. Yeah, it's way different. So but

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Speaker 5: the what the weather is good and I'm gonna join it?

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Speaker 3: Cool?

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Speaker 1: So I mean your goals though for this year individual?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I know obviously as a team, you guys

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Speaker 5: My goal for myself is for you just to make

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say best of luck with with your

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Speaker 3: goal of this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I appreciate the time and that good luck

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Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 5: Sir, Thank you for having me, Thank you taking time.

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Speaker 1: So shout out to Darius Davis already making plays h

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Speaker 3: And the cool thing about talking to him was he

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Speaker 3: I think the Chargers are probably being like, hey, we

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Speaker 3: should get this guy on the roster this season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, I'll definitely be watching rooting for him.

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Speaker 1: It was really cool to talk to him, and so

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Speaker 1: now we have fully unloaded all of our Chargers training

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Speaker 1: camp interviews.

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Speaker 4: It's a good thing we.

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Speaker 1: Said on that though. Oh yeah, it worked out. He

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Speaker 1: got the Fantasy Live podcast bump. That's what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: NFL Fantasy Podcast bump. All right, AFC North Previews. As always,

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Speaker 1: we're doing these alphabetically by city, so we will start

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Speaker 1: with the Baltimore Ravens. Their top scorers last year quarterback

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Speaker 1: no surprise, Lamar Jackson, he was QB fourteen. Obviously missed

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Speaker 1: while he was dealing with an injury. Their top running

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Speaker 1: the top scoring wide receiver. We always talk about the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver issues in Baltimore and that maybe he underscores

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Speaker 1: of a down year for Mark Andrews, he was still

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Speaker 1: Notable losses in Baltimore Kenyon Drake, DeMarcus Robinson. So the

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Speaker 1: Josh Oliver additions in free agency. They signed Melwyn Gordon.

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Speaker 3: I do not love JK. Dobbins. And I've had this

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Speaker 1: I don't think i've drafted him either right now, depending

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Speaker 1: Hundred passing yards for Lamar Jackson, which by the way,

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Speaker 3: Him, I'm gonna go more. I think everything that they

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Speaker 3: Plus you spend all your resources this offseason, I'm bringing

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Speaker 3: and which I think means a lot more dropbacks for Lamar,

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Speaker 3: but I still think he'll run a lot, maybe less

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be really, really dangerous. I'm with you.

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Speaker 1: I think I think he has a big passing year, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I just should have said DeMarcus Robinson and

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Speaker 1: Next up the Cincinnati Bengals. All their top scores are

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Speaker 1: He has yet to have a one hundred catch season.

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Speaker 3: Less, I'm gonna go with more. I I'm very high

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Speaker 3: So I think that career volume because last year he

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase was the leader because they were just giving

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Speaker 2: I think this is the really big year.

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Speaker 1: I mean remember once upon a time we used to

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Speaker 1: really goes nuts. I think he gets over one hundred catches.

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00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:11,800
Speaker 1: I think he really does push towards two thousand yards.

439
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 1: And you're right, you know, if one of t Higgins

440
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,960
Speaker 1: and Tyler Boyd were gone, I think for sure he

441
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:18,479
Speaker 1: would do it.

442
00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he would for sure do it.

443
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 1: They got three good wide receivers there, so that makes

444
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: it a little bit harder. But you know, if he

445
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: gets one hundred catches sixteen seventeen hundred yards, it wouldn't

446
00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 1: surprise me this year at all. Jill Mixon right now

447
00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: going right around.

448
00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:37,480
Speaker 2: RB twelve in a lot of leagues.

449
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,359
Speaker 1: Again, depending on where you look, ADP wise eleven to

450
00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 1: thirteen somewhere. Isn't that potentially a value if you're not

451
00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:47,520
Speaker 1: going with a running back in the first round or so.

452
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,679
Speaker 3: I think you can sell it as one. For me,

453
00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,200
Speaker 3: I feel like Mixon is appropriately priced. But last year

454
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,320
Speaker 3: he was the RB six and points per game RB

455
00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:59,359
Speaker 3: ten overall. Of course, we have to point out that

456
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:00,800
Speaker 3: fifty five.

457
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 2: Say consistency is an issue.

458
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, fifty five of those points came in one massive game.

459
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:09,160
Speaker 3: He averaged fourteen per game in the thirteen other games

460
00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,320
Speaker 3: that he played last season. So I have him ranked

461
00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,360
Speaker 3: pulling up my RB rankings right now, I have him

462
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,360
Speaker 3: at RB twelve, which is exactly where he's going because

463
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 3: I'm a sucker for upside, So like I put JAMR.

464
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:25,000
Speaker 3: Gibbs ahead of him, but I could see some people

465
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,280
Speaker 3: boosting him up a little bits. To me, A lot

466
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,439
Speaker 3: of it depends on what happens with Taylor and Jacobs,

467
00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,479
Speaker 3: because if those guys are not here in two weeks,

468
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 3: then mixin will be higher than RB twelve for me.

469
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 3: But I think right now it's appropriately priced.

470
00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was, And I brought this up because you

471
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:45,320
Speaker 1: just kind of reading over the weekend and just getting

472
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 1: bits and pieces of news. There's a belief that he

473
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: will be more efficient as a runner. I mean, I

474
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:57,359
Speaker 1: think part of his inconsistency was tied to his inefficiency

475
00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:02,359
Speaker 1: as a running back. The Bengals still trying to shore

476
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: up that offensive line get things better. I think the

477
00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,919
Speaker 1: other part of it, though, is there's not really a

478
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: lot of competition right now. I mean it's not like

479
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 1: last year when they had sajp Ryan and you knew

480
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 1: he was coming in for a lot of that two

481
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 1: minute drill work, catching passes, that sort of thing.

482
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,080
Speaker 2: Some of that work could go to Mixon. This year.

483
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 1: We know the Bengals are going to score a lot

484
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: of points, we know the offense is going to be good.

485
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 1: I just don't see as many people really challenging to

486
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: take opportunities away from him. And if he does become

487
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,560
Speaker 1: more efficient and more consistent as a runner, I think

488
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: we could look back on that and sort of feel

489
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: like it's a value like I think he could end.

490
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if top five is possible, but certainly

491
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 1: six seven I think is really possible. And to get

492
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,359
Speaker 1: him as the twelfth running back off the board, I

493
00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: think could end up being kind of a decent value

494
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,760
Speaker 1: for you last one for the Bengals. Will Irv actually

495
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: swerve this year? Now that Irv Smith is in Cincinnati?

496
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 1: I know we've been trying to make fetch happen for

497
00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: the last few years. I have certainly been pushing for it.

498
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:03,320
Speaker 1: Will Irv actually swerve this year?

499
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 3: I don't think Side tells me.

500
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: Everything I need to know.

501
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:08,920
Speaker 3: Because you know I love Irv Smith as well. I

502
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,160
Speaker 3: don't think he'll swerve enough to be like a tight

503
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,160
Speaker 3: end that you start every single week. But I think

504
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,280
Speaker 3: he lives in that streaming range and good matchups by week,

505
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 3: replacements stuff like that. I just when you have Jamar

506
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 3: Chase T Higgins, Tyler Boyd, Joe Mixon, it's gonna be hard,

507
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,119
Speaker 3: too hard to carve out consistent volume each week. But

508
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 3: this is the best offense he's ever been a part of,

509
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 3: the best quarterback he's ever played with. So he could

510
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 3: have a career year and still not be a tight end.

511
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 4: One. Yeah, I don't.

512
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 1: I don't think the big, the big season's gonna happen.

513
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: And I remember when he landed in Cincinnati, it was like, oh,

514
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 1: that's not great, just because there are so many other

515
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: guys who are.

516
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:50,800
Speaker 2: Gonna get the football ahead of him.

517
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 1: And so it's one of those things where and I

518
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,320
Speaker 1: feel like this applies to a lot of tight ends.

519
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: If I have him in basketball, I feel better because

520
00:23:57,840 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: you don't have to worry about guessing which week is

521
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: going to be the IRV Smith week. But in manage

522
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,280
Speaker 1: leagues it is. It's going to be frustrated. You're gonna

523
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 1: have to sort of explain or have to figure out,

524
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,400
Speaker 1: you know, when to use him, and that sort of thing.

525
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 1: That is going to be a little bit of a

526
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: tougher pull, I think on a week to week basis.

527
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:15,439
Speaker 1: So i'd love to, you know, hashtag let IRV swerve.

528
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 1: Maybe I'll do it when he scores touchdowns, But I

529
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be like a big, big

530
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:20,840
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Speaker 1: Sweeps twenty twenty three. Join now by a special guest,

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00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,680
Speaker 1: a man who probably helped a lot of you out

543
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 1: there win some fantasy football championships. He was a first

544
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,400
Speaker 1: round pick in two thousand and eight out of East Carolina.

545
00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: Over his career with the Three Pro Bols, was a

546
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: one time All Pro, the Offensive Player of the Year

547
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: in two thousand and nine when he led the league

548
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: in rushing. You know on the CJ two k's Chris Johnson, Chris,

549
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: thanks for the time, man, How are you.

550
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,440
Speaker 4: I'm doing good man, Thanks for having me.

551
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 1: Well you you have been away from the game for

552
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 1: a while. You were in the podcast space yourself. Now, man,

553
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:18,560
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about that.

554
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 4: Ah Man, Me and Lindale White.

555
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 6: You know, We was like duos when I first went

556
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 6: to Tennessee, and that's how we came up with our

557
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 6: name Smash and Dash or whatever. So we always talked

558
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 6: trash back and forth to each other all the time.

559
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 4: So it was only.

560
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,880
Speaker 6: Right to, you know, be co hosting the podcast real

561
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:41,479
Speaker 6: and talk about different sports, different things that's going on

562
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 6: around the world.

563
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 3: Who's the better talker between the two of you.

564
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 6: I would have to say Lindell is. I wouldn't say

565
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 6: better talker, But if anybody knows Lindell, they know he

566
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 6: likes to talk a lot.

567
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. He talks more than I talked,

568
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 4: But you know.

569
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: So, I mean it works out obviously. In the podcast,

570
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: you guys you mentioned Smashing Dash. That was your name

571
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:05,880
Speaker 1: together when you were with the Titans. When you look

572
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: around the league, I know on your show, you guys

573
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: talk a lot of running backs and stuff. Is there

574
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,040
Speaker 1: a running back duo that kind of reminds you of

575
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 1: what you guys did in Tennessee?

576
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 4: Oh Man.

577
00:26:17,080 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 6: One team that comes to mind to me is the

578
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 6: Atlanta Falcons. Those guys that they got over there, just

579
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 6: even from looking at him last year, they had two

580
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 6: good guys and then they brung on b John Robinson

581
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,320
Speaker 6: and it's just interesting to me, and it's kind of

582
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 6: exciting to see what Art is going to do with

583
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 6: all three of those guys that he got back there.

584
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 6: That was a guy that was when I was in

585
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:50,399
Speaker 6: Tennessee and Mike Hammerdinger was my offenseive coordinator. Art he

586
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 6: was the quality quality control guy, you know what I'm saying,

587
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 6: And he came up under under him, studying him and

588
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 6: to see what he did when he became the offense

589
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,479
Speaker 6: coordinator at Tennessee. And now he's the head coach at

590
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 6: Atlanta Factory, and now he got three good running backs

591
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 6: back there.

592
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see what he do with those guys.

593
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 3: And as Marcus said when we introduced you, you ran

594
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: for a legendary two thousand and six yards back in

595
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 3: two thousand and nine. Is there a running back in

596
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 3: the league that you think can break two thousand yards?

597
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: And should it really count?

598
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: Though?

599
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 3: If they get that extra.

600
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:31,040
Speaker 6: Game, I have to I have to be honest and said, yes,

601
00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 6: it has to count because because what a lot of

602
00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 6: people don't know, Oj did it in fourteen games, you

603
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So they might say I got

604
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 6: two extra games to do it or whatever. But I

605
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 6: feel like another guy that can do it is not

606
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 6: all about just his talent and ability. He has to

607
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 6: be in the right offense and the guy that I

608
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 6: think has the best chance outside of Derrick Henry doing

609
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 6: it again, I would say Nick Chup over there with Cleveland,

610
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,440
Speaker 6: he's he's the guy.

611
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 4: Now.

612
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 6: He don't have anybody that he's switching in and out

613
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 6: with this year because Kareem Hunt left or whatever like that,

614
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 6: and I feel he's going to get all the carriers.

615
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 6: So I think he's the He got the best chance

616
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 6: out of any back in this league rush of two

617
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:19,520
Speaker 6: thousand yards.

618
00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 1: So you mentioned Kareem Hunt, and I know right now

619
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: he's sort of taking visiting places and looking to sign

620
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,680
Speaker 1: a contract. I mean, he's a free Agentil Elliott, Dalvin Cook.

621
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: You know, there's so much of the talkers offseason has

622
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: been about running backs getting underpaid.

623
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 2: I mean, how are you feeling about that?

624
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: And is there a way we can sort of get

625
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 1: these guys paid in the future.

626
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 6: Oh, man, that's a that's a tough situation right now.

627
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 6: That's a real tough situation, man. And honestly, I've I've

628
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 6: talked about it a couple of times, and like you know,

629
00:28:51,640 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 6: just sitting around the house talking to friends and stuff

630
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 6: like that, it's gonna be something that has to be done,

631
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 6: and it's going to take. It's gonna take a lot.

632
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 6: And I think the way that it's set up right now,

633
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 6: they got the running backs like they got them by

634
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 6: the neck, like it ain't much that they can do

635
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 6: when you have to play out this four five year contract.

636
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 6: Then they put the franchise tag onder they got two

637
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 6: franchise tags, so you basically locked up for six years,

638
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 6: six seven years, and then by the time you go

639
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 6: through all that, if they don't pay you after the

640
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 6: first franchise tag, by the time you go through all

641
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 6: those years and stuff like that, you know what they

642
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,440
Speaker 6: say about running backs, he washed up. While you get

643
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 6: the year seven eight, they already looking for the younger

644
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 6: guy and things like that. So it's just tough and

645
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 6: I hope it's something that they can do to, you know,

646
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 6: get these running backs paid, especially earlier.

647
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,840
Speaker 3: And one thing we do we talk about a lot

648
00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: on this show is like the Fantasy Football Hall of Fame,

649
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 3: you don't really have to make a strong case what

650
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 3: you would be a first ballot Fantasy Hall of Famer.

651
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 3: So I guess the real question is who would you

652
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 3: like to introduce you and give the introduction speech.

653
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 4: To the Fantasy Football Yeah? Why not?

654
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: You know, or the real Hall of Fame?

655
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 6: Either one man, both, ah man. Okay, If I would

656
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 6: have to pick something like that. As far as the

657
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 6: Fantasy Football Hall of Fame, who I want to introduce me?

658
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 6: I would have to say Barry Sanders. I have to

659
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 6: say Barry Sanders. That's been my guy, like watching film

660
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 6: on him, watching his highlights since I was growing up

661
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 6: and things like that. That's always been my favorite running back.

662
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 6: I feel like he's the best running back in NFL history.

663
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 6: So that would be somebody that I would want to

664
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 6: introduce me.

665
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: When you look around the league and you look at

666
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: some of these young running backs or their guy you

667
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: mentioned b Jon Robinson or the other kind of younger

668
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: guys out there that have caught your attention.

669
00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's a guy to guys. James Cook. He's

670
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 6: going to his second year.

671
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 2: Dude, the Bills fan, going to.

672
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 6: His second year, and you know, he started to get

673
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 6: better and better as the year went on. Last year,

674
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 6: and I think this year. Is is his job, and

675
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 6: I think he's going to do some big things this year.

676
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 6: That's one of the guys that I like. And another

677
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 6: guy on Jamiir Gibbs. I've been on this guy for

678
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 6: a while and just seeing like some of the highlights

679
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 6: in some of the plays that he's making in training camp.

680
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 6: I'm definitely excited to see this guy play this year.

681
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: You ever think about coaching you want to get in that.

682
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 6: I don't know about coaching, probably more so of probably scouting.

683
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 6: I think i'd be a better better at scouting. Yeah,

684
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 6: I think it's kind of hard to coach. It depends

685
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 6: the levels, you know what I'm saying, Like college, Well

686
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 6: now you can't even really say college because they're getting paid.

687
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 4: Probably high school.

688
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,600
Speaker 6: Probably better off coach in high school rather than college

689
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 6: are pros.

690
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 4: But I don't think I want to be a coach.

691
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: More so, I'm leaning towards like really getting into the scouting.

692
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: So putting on your scout hat. Who is there a

693
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 3: running back in the league that reminds you of you?

694
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: Is it Jamior Gibbs or or there's no one come

695
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 3: close to c J two K.

696
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say Gibbs.

697
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 6: I say the closest one that I can say that

698
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 6: kind of model their games, sort of like minds. I

699
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 6: would say Dalvin Cook. I would say Dalvin Cook. I

700
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 6: like how he run his own running scheme and things

701
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 6: like that. So I'll say, Dalvin.

702
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 1: You still follow the Titans, I mean your your thoughts

703
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: on what they have in store potentially this year.

704
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 6: Yeah, I still follow them. That's my team. I still

705
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 6: follow them. I feel like with the addition of d

706
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 6: Hop that that did a whole lot for us, Like,

707
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 6: you know, we was missing a number one receiver. When ever,

708
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 6: since AJ left and get d Hop, I think he

709
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 6: came in and filled those shoes, and that way you're

710
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 6: not able to just stack all these guys in the

711
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 6: box and you know, to stop Darren Henry and another thing,

712
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 6: you know, I think it would prolong Darren Henry's career

713
00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 6: where you don't have to go in there and give

714
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 6: him the ball four hundred times. When you got de Hopping,

715
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 6: you got a passing game. You could pass the ball

716
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 6: a lot more, and then it just creates a mismatch.

717
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 3: Do you enjoy hearing stories about people telling you either

718
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: like you won me my Fantasy week or championship or

719
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: I lost because I was facing you, do you because

720
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: I have a great one. I was playing you against

721
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 3: the team that you were on in twenty ten Monday

722
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 3: Night football. I just needed you to not have a

723
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 3: massive game, and then with two minutes left you broke

724
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 3: out a thirty five yard touchdown and hard exactly that game.

725
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

726
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 6: People tell me that all the time. They're like, man,

727
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 6: why was you steal in the game? Like, yeah, so

728
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 6: I remember that game like it was yesterday.

729
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 4: Uh yeah.

730
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 1: Everybody talks about you at the combine running the forty?

731
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 2: How fast you think you could run?

732
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 4: Right now? All right now, man rubs the knee. It's tough.

733
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 6: I think I can run pretty fast, but I know

734
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 6: probably at the end of it, I'm probably gonna pull

735
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 6: the ham straight.

736
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna pull a ham.

737
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,839
Speaker 3: Do you think you could still to this day beat

738
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 3: Tyry killing race.

739
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 4: To this day? Not right now? Yes, of course, yes,

740
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 4: in my prime, of course.

741
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 2: I mean so like after football, I mean I mentioned

742
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: you're in the podcast game. What have you been doing?

743
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:38,879
Speaker 2: Have you been occupying yourself since?

744
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,720
Speaker 4: Well? Yeah, podcast game?

745
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 6: That and then another thing that I've I've been doing lately.

746
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 6: I got some Airbnbs down in Orlando. So you know,

747
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 6: a lot of a lot of people come down to

748
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 6: Orlando to go to Disney World and stuff like that.

749
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 6: So I got two Airbnb's right around the corner from

750
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,520
Speaker 6: Disney and stuff like that. Like got all the theme

751
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 6: rooms and the arcade garage and all that type of stuff.

752
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,279
Speaker 6: So I really been focusing hard on that, and I'm

753
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 6: doing that. Any football a whole lot game balls, helmets,

754
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 6: everything signed by like real NFL players and things like that.

755
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: Amazing.

756
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: So if you're looking for a vacation spot, uh near Orlando,

757
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,760
Speaker 1: there you go look it up from from Chris Johnson.

758
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 6: Uh.

759
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: I mean you gotta ask you, like so you talk

760
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 1: about scouting and everything. I mean, would you like to

761
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: stay around the NFL game if you could?

762
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:36,240
Speaker 4: I definitely would. That's a goal of mine.

763
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 6: Like I can't play no more people ask do I

764
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 6: miss the game. I don't miss practice and training. I

765
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 6: miss going out there on Sunday getting those goose bumps and.

766
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 4: Playing in the actual game.

767
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 6: And besides that, like my I got two twin boys

768
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 6: at eleven years old, they put they played football.

769
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 4: I help out with their team and stuff like that.

770
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 6: So like that's kind of like my only way of

771
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 6: staying in it at this point, like helping them out.

772
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 6: But I definitely would like to be like on the

773
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 6: NFL level, like helping in with scouting, like because I

774
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 6: just feel like who's who's there better the scout running

775
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 6: backs and myself done it to the highest level.

776
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: So yeah, would you tell your kids to play running

777
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 2: back considering the.

778
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 4: Way they're not allowed to play running back?

779
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 6: But it's crazy like this, this stuff is just coming

780
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 6: out like right now, Like I've been telling my kids

781
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,959
Speaker 6: that like the last three years, like they're not allowed

782
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 6: to play running back. They can play it right now

783
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 6: in little league, but they're slowly the older they're get

784
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 6: slowly transitioning to receiver, cornerback or whatever. Like we just

785
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 6: trained as athletes, so by the time it's time to

786
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 6: go to high school, they definitely.

787
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: We play dB wide receivers. That's where the money's at.

788
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 3: Do you ever put on some of your old highlights

789
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 3: to be like this is this is how good your

790
00:36:58,760 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 3: dad was?

791
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 4: Well ed? Man?

792
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 6: You know these days and ages kids, man, it's crazy.

793
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 6: Kids be having iPhones and elementary like that. So they

794
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 6: put all that stuff up on YouTube on they own

795
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 6: and stuff like that.

796
00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 4: Like what I try to do with them is like.

797
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 6: When their game film, like from Lily, they record the

798
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 6: games and stuff now, so I like kind of go

799
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 6: over their game film with them and watch their game

800
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 6: film and like critique them and like tell them what

801
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 6: they did wrong and what they did a good job

802
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 6: there is.

803
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: That's that's how the scouting. That's how the scouting thing begins.

804
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,680
Speaker 1: Just that, Chris Man, we appreciate the time Smashing Dash

805
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: podcast you and lynn Dale White here a couple episodes.

806
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,239
Speaker 1: Sounds great. Continue success with that, man. We appreciate you

807
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:43,880
Speaker 1: hanging out with us.

808
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 4: Thank you, thanks for having me.

809
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 1: Still diving into the AFC North again though, a big

810
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: thanks to Chris Johnson for stopping by the Smash and

811
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: Dash podcast.

812
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: Him and Lyndale White back together again. A whole lot

813
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 2: of fun there. The Cleveland Browns.

814
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: Last year, their top fantasy scorer was Jacoby Brissett QB

815
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: twenty four. It was a pretty bad year on the

816
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: field for Deshaun Watson football wise, as he played the

817
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: back part of the season. Nick Chubb your top running

818
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: back for the Browns two hundred and eighty one fantasy points.

819
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 1: He was the RB six Amari Cooper, your wide receiver

820
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: ten at two hundred and forty seven points, and David

821
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 1: Njoku tight end eleven with a buck forty two.

822
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 2: In the offseason, the Browns lost Bersettes.

823
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: They lost Kareem Hunt and Deernest Johnson, but they did

824
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,760
Speaker 1: go out and add in free agency Josh Dobbs, Marquise Goodwin,

825
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 1: Elijah Moore, who's maybe the big free agent addition there

826
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: in Jordan Aikins. They did draft Cedric Tillman and Dorian

827
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 1: Thompson Robinson, who already ingratiated himself to the Browns fans

828
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame game when he like laid

829
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: a block on a touchdown run. So Cleveland fans already

830
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: love Dorian at Thompson Robinson and that big ten legend

831
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 1: from UCLA. First off the board, Nick Chubb an early

832
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: second round pick. So gotta ask, what is the percentage

833
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: change that Nick Chubb could finish as the RB one

834
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: this year.

835
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 3: I'm never good at giving percentages, but I'll say, like

836
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 3: fifteen percent. I don't know, it's too high. I think

837
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb. But this, let mean, I guess this is

838
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: a better way of saying it. I think this is

839
00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 3: Nick Chubb's best chance ever of being the overall RB one,

840
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 3: Because for years I was the low guy on Nick

841
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: Chubb and people would be like, he's the best peer

842
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: runner in football and I'm like, great, I'm not denying that.

843
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,719
Speaker 3: Does he catch the ball?

844
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: Right? No?

845
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, then he can't be the RB one. He

846
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 3: can't be like top five. And it sounds crazy to say, but,

847
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 3: like you pull up Nick Chubb's fantasy finishes by by season,

848
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 3: he has never been a top five fantasy running back

849
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: in total points or points per game. I think that

850
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 3: changes this year because Kareem Hunt is gone and there's

851
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 3: no one behind like Jerome Ford was the biggest threat,

852
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: and he's dealing with an as right now. Yeah so,

853
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 3: and there's lots of talk about getting Nick Chubb more

854
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 3: usage in the passing game. You do that paired with

855
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,799
Speaker 3: now that he has a Russian quarterback who should help

856
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,799
Speaker 3: create some running lanes for him. I have Nick Chubb

857
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 3: right now as my RB six, but on any given day,

858
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 3: the RB three through six for me could be in

859
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 3: any order because I have Eckler and CMC is my

860
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 3: top two. But then Bijon, Tony Pollard, Sequon Barkley. Nick

861
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: Chubb for me is that next group. And I keep

862
00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 3: going back and forth on how I want to order

863
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 3: those four, but to me, those are like the next four,

864
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 3: the tier two running backs, and I think any of

865
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: them could finish as.

866
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 2: The RB one, So I go slightly higher.

867
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 1: I'll give him like a twenty to twenty five percent

868
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: chance of doing it. And I think what you touched

869
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: on though, is important to me, and that Kareem Hunt

870
00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,919
Speaker 1: isn't there. And if you think back before Kareem Hunt

871
00:40:55,960 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: got there twenty nineteen, Nick Chubb at thirty six catches.

872
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't sound like a lot. It's his

873
00:41:02,680 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: career high. They were starting to use him a lot

874
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: more in that respect, and even the start of I

875
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: think it was twenty twenty was the first year that

876
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,760
Speaker 1: Kaream Hunt got there, if I remember right. But whatever

877
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: it was, they were using him in the passing game

878
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 1: and then Hunt got there and that sort of went away.

879
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: So it was the back half, that's what it was.

880
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: So first half of twenty nineteen, Nick Chubb was catching

881
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 1: the football a lot. Kareem Hunt shows up midway through

882
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: the season, and then it was him catching the ball

883
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: and Chubb not getting the target so much. Now that

884
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:39,799
Speaker 1: he's gone, that hunt is gone, I think you start

885
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: to see Nick Chubb as more of an asset in

886
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 1: the passing game. I'm not going to oversell it. You know,

887
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: We're not gonna suddenly talk about him the way we

888
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: talk about you know, Eckler or Kamara or McCaffrey.

889
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 2: But I think he's going to get enough that it

890
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 2: gives him a chance.

891
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: The fact that you know, this is potentially a contract

892
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,239
Speaker 1: year for him. Who knows if the Browns want to

893
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,879
Speaker 1: offer him a deal, considering the way running backs are going.

894
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: Probably not.

895
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: They could just decide this is the year we run

896
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb into the ground, we get him involved in everything,

897
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: and then you know, we figure out free agency what

898
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: happens after that. So I think there's a chance. I

899
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:13,360
Speaker 1: don't know that you know, it's a high chance, but

900
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 1: I do think it's it's certainly a chance that it happens.

901
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. In the last month I was checking his

902
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 1: ADP has jumped about three rounds. He was going in

903
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: round eleven. He has jumped up to round eight. I

904
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 1: think everybody's clued into the fact that there's really a

905
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: chance for him to be better than he was last year.

906
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 2: Round eight, too high, too low? Just right? How do

907
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 2: you feel?

908
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,880
Speaker 3: I think it's just right. I could see him jumping

909
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: even another round. But that's when you start to get

910
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: into the Trevor Lawrence territory, and I do think there

911
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: should be a little bit of a gap between those two.

912
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 3: That being said, I am high on Deshaun Watson and

913
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 3: this Browns offense. I'm of the mindset that those final

914
00:42:54,880 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 3: six games last year do not matter at all. I understand. Yes,

915
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: he played football, and it was the first football we've

916
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 3: seen him play in two years. It's also the worst

917
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 3: football of his career. He was out for eighteen months,

918
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: played all those games in bad weather, with a coach

919
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 3: and an offense that he's never played with before, in

920
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: an offense that wasn't built for him. Like my example

921
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 3: continues to be, you could use the greatest athletes of

922
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 3: all time in Michael Jordan and you look at his

923
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,800
Speaker 3: career season by season. His worst one was the season

924
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 3: where he came off of an eighteen month layover. Ye

925
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,840
Speaker 3: after that, the next year he was back to being himself.

926
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: We've seen a lot of Fernando Tatis Junior in baseball

927
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 3: is doing it now. We've seen a lot of players

928
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,759
Speaker 3: come back from these long layovers. We see football players

929
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 3: do it all the time from injuries, and it takes

930
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,239
Speaker 3: them a little bit of time to get back to

931
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: being themselves. But to me, seeing Deshaun Watson play well

932
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 3: in the preseason means more than anything that happened at

933
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 3: the end of last season. And I don't think people

934
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 3: are realizing that every healthy season this guy has played,

935
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 3: he's been a top five fantasy quarterback.

936
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: But I think that's why you have seen the ADP jump,

937
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: because I think people are sort of feeling the way

938
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: you are and it's become like a hey man, like,

939
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: let's let's take the shot on Deshaun Watson, especially because

940
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 1: I think for a lot of people, they're drafting Watson

941
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 1: and they're probably drafting another quarterback just sort of in case,

942
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, things go kind of sideways.

943
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 2: But I think.

944
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: Everybody's sort of banking on the upside of what he

945
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: was when he was at Houston, and even if he

946
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: doesn't get completely back to where he was with the Texans,

947
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: I think we all sort of believe he's a lot

948
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:31,439
Speaker 1: better than what we saw last year. But right now,

949
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 1: you're still getting him at a spot where you're not

950
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:38,800
Speaker 1: drafting investing heavily in draft capital. You can still hopefully

951
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: get a solid quarterback one in kind of the mid rounds.

952
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 1: I mean, you're getting a guy with top five upside

953
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: in the area where you're drafting sort of fringe qb ones.

954
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: So I think that's sort of the excitement about about

955
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson. Is this finally the David and Joku breakout year.

956
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 3: I think we kind of saw last year be the

957
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 3: start of a breakout. He was the tight end eight

958
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 3: in points per game. He just he got hurt, he

959
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 3: missed some time. Despite missing time, he was second in

960
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 3: red zone targets at the position last year, and I

961
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: think that is where he could shine because outside of

962
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 3: Amari Cooper, like Elijah Moore DPJ, those are all nice pieces,

963
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 3: but I think in Djoku is their second best red

964
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 3: zone option here. And if Deshaun Watson can get back

965
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 3: to being what he was, that's going to lead to

966
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: more passing opportunities, more scoring opportunities. So David and Joku,

967
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 3: I keep saying, I want a top seven tight end

968
00:45:32,680 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: this year, but if I miss out on the top

969
00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,480
Speaker 3: seven Evan Ingraman and Joku are my fallback options.

970
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do think this is a decent year for him.

971
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,120
Speaker 1: I do think, though it's going to be like a

972
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: lot of tight ends in that range, a week to

973
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: week sort of frustration. It's right over the weekend, you know.

974
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: Talking to a lot of people, and I had a

975
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: conversation with Jeff Ratcliffe, who does a lot of great

976
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 1: work on Sirius, and he's sort of pointed out when

977
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,480
Speaker 1: you talk about these tight ends in this range that

978
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: I guess I like, perhaps because you know, Andy Barns

979
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: from Yahoo mentioned the fact that you know, a guy

980
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: like Sam Laporta could potentially be a top six or

981
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: top eight tight end. But he sort of threw the

982
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: asterisk in there that to do that only means, you know,

983
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 1: maybe you get fifty to sixty catches, you have five

984
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: hundred yards, and you have four to six touchdowns. And

985
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 1: Jeff Radcliffe pointed out the fact that if you score

986
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: you know, six touchdowns over the space of seventeen games,

987
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: that's a third basically of the games. So like, only

988
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 1: on the third of the games are you really putting

989
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: up viable tight end one type numbers? And I think

990
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 1: you know, David and Joku kind of falls in that

991
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: category where he could be a top ten tight end.

992
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: It means two thirds of the season, you could be really.

993
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 1: Frustrated with David Djoku when he gives you out when

994
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,040
Speaker 1: he gives you like five or six points, but it's

995
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: those weeks when he gives you twelve to fifteen You're like, yeah, man,

996
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: this is why I did this.

997
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 3: I was talking I forget who I was talking to

998
00:46:58,040 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: a couple of days ago, and I was like, streaming

999
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 3: tight end in August seems great until you actually have

1000
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 3: to do a whole season worth of it. Like, just

1001
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: pay up for tighter. That's why I have no problem

1002
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: taking Travis Kelsey in the first round the show, Like

1003
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 3: just pay up to get that.

1004
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 1: Security, you know, And I've switched on that a couple

1005
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 1: of years ago, Like it just is worth it for

1006
00:47:16,280 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: me to get one of these guys I'm gonna feel

1007
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: okay about because I don't want to be in week

1008
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: thirteen and I'm scrounging around and trying to figure out,

1009
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 1: like what guy has a chance to catch a touchdowns?

1010
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: That's all that's all your banking on, Like who could

1011
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:29,720
Speaker 1: possibly catch a touchdown?

1012
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 2: For me this week. I got enough other things to

1013
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: think about in my life. I don't need that on

1014
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 2: a week to week basis. Last one at the Pittsburgh Steelers.

1015
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,279
Speaker 1: Their top fantasy scorer from last year Kenny Pickett, who

1016
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: was the QB twenty eight. Nagie Harris their top running

1017
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,959
Speaker 1: back are B fourteen overall two hundred and twenty three points,

1018
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: Deontay Johnson their top wide out. He was wide receiver

1019
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: twenty eight at one hundred and eighty points, and Pat

1020
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 1: Fryermouth the tight end seven overall one hundred and forty

1021
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:02,320
Speaker 1: eight point two. Not much changed in terms of personnel

1022
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 1: offensively for the Steelers. They lose Benny Snell, They add

1023
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson as a free agent. They draft tight end

1024
00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: Darnell Washington, though it seems like his opportunities will be

1025
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: limited just because he'll be behind Friarmouth. First guy off

1026
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 1: the board, Najee Harris middle of round three. One more

1027
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,760
Speaker 1: more or less for you? Four touchdowns for Deontay Johnson,

1028
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: more or less.

1029
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: More it has to be more right, Like I mean,

1030
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:31,720
Speaker 3: zero last year. It was so frustrating, but he earns

1031
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 3: targets at such a high rate it'll probably take four

1032
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 3: games for him to do it, because the next time

1033
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 3: that Kenny Pickett throws multiple passing touchdowns in the game

1034
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,320
Speaker 3: will be his first. I'm I'm not high on the

1035
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 3: Steelers offense at all. I think Deontay Johnson. If I

1036
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: draft any of them, it will be Deontay Johnston. But

1037
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 3: even he is, he's starting to get pulled up the

1038
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 3: board a bit from where he was going in early drafts.

1039
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 3: I don't find myself feeling great drafting him.

1040
00:48:58,280 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's kind of moved up to like

1041
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: the fifth round now. It's funny because you remember early

1042
00:49:03,719 --> 00:49:06,840
Speaker 1: in the offseason he was behind George Pickens. He was

1043
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: going in like round nine, and since then it has

1044
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 1: shifted that he's ahead of Pickens.

1045
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,880
Speaker 2: That that is I think what it should be.

1046
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: But I think everybody's kind of getting I don't know

1047
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: if it's excited about him specifically, but just wide receivers

1048
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: in general.

1049
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,480
Speaker 2: Wide receivers are starting to get pulled up the board now.

1050
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: I did a salary cap draft over the weekend, and

1051
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:33,400
Speaker 1: the prices for the wide receivers were off the charts.

1052
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 1: I mean even like mid round guys, mid range guys.

1053
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: I think Drake London went for thirty dollars right exactly.

1054
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,920
Speaker 1: I mean both Deebo Samuel and Brandon Ayuk went for

1055
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: the same number. It. Things are getting really, really inflated

1056
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 1: out there, and I think that's why you've seen Deontay

1057
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,960
Speaker 1: Johnson have the ADP he does at round five. It's

1058
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: a little hard to pay off, just because I don't

1059
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,640
Speaker 1: know how how much the Steelers are going to score

1060
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: touchdowns this year, but I'm with you. I think it's

1061
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: more than four. It's definitely more than zero because you

1062
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: can't have fewer than zero. So I do like Deontay

1063
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: this year. Nagie Harris is the guy that has made

1064
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: me very nervous. I don't think I've drafted him much,

1065
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 1: if at all, this year. Does he get to one

1066
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,440
Speaker 1: thousand rushing yards this season?

1067
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,799
Speaker 3: If he does, I think it'll be like last year

1068
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: where he barely tops it because of volume. He's a

1069
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 3: fade for me. I wanted to give Nausea a pass

1070
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: last year because of the ankle injury, but then when

1071
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 3: I compared his season last year to the season prior,

1072
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 3: it wasn't really all that different. Like in fact, he

1073
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,840
Speaker 3: had the same number pretty much of runs go for

1074
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 3: ten plus yards and for fifteen plus miles per hour,

1075
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 3: he was stuffed at the same percentage. He actually was

1076
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: better in yards before contact last year. To me, the

1077
00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 3: biggest thing is he's never going to be what he

1078
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:55,959
Speaker 3: was rookie his rookie year because Big Ben is gone,

1079
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:57,799
Speaker 3: and he's not going to get that ninety two one

1080
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 3: hundred targets like he was getting that year. He saw

1081
00:51:00,680 --> 00:51:03,000
Speaker 3: a decrease of forty targets last year, and I think

1082
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 3: that that is what we should expect moving forward. And

1083
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,799
Speaker 3: then you add in that Jalen Warren is a good

1084
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 3: backup who is stealing work from him in the preseason

1085
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 3: this weekend and could be used as a pass catcher

1086
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 3: and is a little bit more fast and quicker. So

1087
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I see a lot of risk with

1088
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: Naji Harris and not so much of a reward. I

1089
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 3: don't think I drafted him anywhere, and I don't plan

1090
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 3: on him.

1091
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I really haven't drafted him for all

1092
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 1: the reasons you said. I think the Jalen Warren hype

1093
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,320
Speaker 1: is real. The drum beats have been getting louder for

1094
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 1: a while, and I'm looking around at where he's going

1095
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,719
Speaker 1: where Nase is going in the third round. I mean

1096
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor sort of around there, and that's mostly I

1097
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: think got a caution for a lot of people. But

1098
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: you know, Joe Mixon is there. You know, I'd rather have, say,

1099
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones, certainly, Jamiir Gibbs, I would rather have, I think,

1100
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: than Najie Harris right now, because I don't think he

1101
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: gets to a thousand yards this year. I see him,

1102
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:59,439
Speaker 1: I can see him, you know, topping out around nine

1103
00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: nine fifty, just because I think Warren takes some opportunity.

1104
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 1: I think, you know, Nage has been kind of inefficient

1105
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: as a runner. I just I've avoided him certainly at ADP.

1106
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,400
Speaker 1: I guess if he falls far enough, I would make

1107
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: the move. But right now at ADP, I just I don't.

1108
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: I don't want last one. A couple of guys who

1109
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,600
Speaker 1: were sort of right next to each other in terms

1110
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,919
Speaker 1: of ADP. Who would you rather have George Pickens from

1111
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,960
Speaker 1: the Steelers or Washington's Jahan Dotson.

1112
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 3: I think this is a great question because I have

1113
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 3: them ranked back to back, and.

1114
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:34,840
Speaker 2: I think there are similar situations too.

1115
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,720
Speaker 3: And my eyes want to go with George Pickens because

1116
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 3: he's that kind of player, like you watch him play

1117
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 3: and you're like, there's nothing this guy can do on

1118
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 3: the football field. Then you look in the numbers and

1119
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 3: you're like, oh, he doesn't separate great, he doesn't earn targets.

1120
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 3: That actually earned targets at the lowest rate of any

1121
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: receiver who ran as many routes as he did last year,

1122
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 3: whereas Dotson was third amongst all receivers and fantasy points

1123
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 3: per target. I feel a little bit better about their

1124
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 3: offense because they brought in new quarterbacks. They have a

1125
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 3: new offensive coordinator, which I think is an improvement with

1126
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 3: the enemy. The Steelers are just running it back from

1127
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 3: what they had last year, and I thought we needed

1128
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 3: to see an offensive coordinator change there. I think this

1129
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 3: offense could be very bland like it was last year,

1130
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 3: so I will go with Dotson.

1131
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 2: I like Dotson too.

1132
00:53:20,719 --> 00:53:22,560
Speaker 1: Maybe it is maybe it's the Eric b Enemy hype

1133
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,359
Speaker 1: that that has me going on, but I just think

1134
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:26,640
Speaker 1: these are two guys who are younger guys. They both

1135
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 1: have quarterbacks that we're just not sure about. But I

1136
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: feel like there's more upside there with dots and I

1137
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 1: think they're going to be a little bit more creative

1138
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: offensively and be a little bit more vertical offensively, and

1139
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 1: I think that sort of helps. Look, I do love

1140
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:43,799
Speaker 1: George Pickens, though. I mean that dude is not shy

1141
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,800
Speaker 1: about telling you how great he thinks he is. I

1142
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw he may comparison. He thinks

1143
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,960
Speaker 1: that within a few years he and Kenny Pickett will

1144
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: have a connection like Ben Roethlisberger and Antonio Brown.

1145
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's it's a big statement.

1146
00:53:58,719 --> 00:53:58,879
Speaker 1: Man.

1147
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,759
Speaker 2: I appreciate your confidence, even if I don't share that

1148
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:02,720
Speaker 2: that belief.

1149
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 3: I get believing in yourself that way. What makes you

1150
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 3: watch Kenny Pickett and think this guy is the guy?

1151
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: Hey man, believe in yourself, believe in your quarterback. I

1152
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 1: guess that's all I can think about it. Like I said,

1153
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 1: I don't share that opinion, but I appreciate that you do.

1154
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 3: I saw one time Draymond Green was like, I'm the

1155
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:26,239
Speaker 3: best defensive player ever, and people were making fun of him,

1156
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 3: and he was like, if I don't believe it, why

1157
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: would anyone else? So I get the mindset.

1158
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: No, absolutely, you know what if you're gonna if you're

1159
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: going to emulate any athletes's confidence Traymond Green's a pretty one.

1160
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 1: Pretty good ones that emulate his confidence if nothing else.

1161
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 2: There. So there it is. That is our look at

1162
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,080
Speaker 2: the AFC North. We'll be back with you on Wednesday.

1163
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: We will look at the NFC North, so stick around

1164
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 1: for that again. Thanks to Darius Davis, thanks to Chris Johnson.

1165
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,040
Speaker 1: Was good having them on the show. And we are

1166
00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: often running. I mean we're two shows a week. NFL

1167
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: Fantasy Live is back starting today, starting Monday. Uh so

1168
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: we'll be back with our preseason shows. We're just a

1169
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 1: couple of weeks away from the regular season at least

1170
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: the Fantasy Live starting and for the NFL season starting

1171
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: as well. So that'll do it for this edition of

1172
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,520
Speaker 1: the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, The Happy, Safe, and Healthy,

1173
00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: do good and live well, and we will talk to

1174
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 1: you on Wednesday.