WEBVTT - The Maurice Williams aka Hefe Wine-O Episode 0:00:01.080 --> 0:00:04.720 Yet you know, boys, it's back and reoaded all in 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:08.119 your mind. Yeah, not deep throating. This is for the streets, 0:00:08.200 --> 0:00:12.400 the reel, the railroading, the distant franchise, the truth escapegoating, 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:14.760 and they ain't knowing we speak the truth, so they 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:17.720 ain't quoted because we wrote it. The North South East 0:00:17.800 --> 0:00:20.880 coat is the g be my twa keeping your head bobbing. 0:00:21.200 --> 0:00:24.680 It ain't no stopping and wants to be dropped head by. 0:00:24.720 --> 0:00:27.040 And then the system is so corrupt they throw the 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:29.280 rock out of their heads and then blame it on us. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:33.560 Don't get it twisted on code and me and dancing 0:00:33.640 --> 0:00:39.640 for no buttament biscuits. It's Willie d y'all scarface out. Collectively, 0:00:39.680 --> 0:00:42.080 we are to get old boys reloaded with another episode 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:46.599 of inflammation and instructions to help you navigate through this wild, crazy, 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:52.479 beautiful world in the studio wine old what's up king? 0:00:52.800 --> 0:00:56.840 How you feel man? Man, I'm blessed good. It's good 0:00:56.880 --> 0:00:58.840 to see you. Man, it's good to see you and 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:03.800 you're still looking young and healthy. Yeah it's possible, man. 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:05.880 What's the secret? Man? Which what are you doing? And 0:01:06.040 --> 0:01:09.320 I eat clean, eat clean? Man? I don't I don't 0:01:09.400 --> 0:01:13.280 eat nothing that's not organic, you know, no GMOs and 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:16.600 my system and uh, you know, I don't get high. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.040 I've never been high ever in my life. I've never 0:01:19.160 --> 0:01:23.440 drank nothing ever. As crazy as I was in the streets, 0:01:23.480 --> 0:01:25.960 you thought I was on everything. But you know that's 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.000 our people. That's what people thought about me when I 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.600 was in high school. Once I got out, I remember 0:01:31.640 --> 0:01:33.440 a few years later, I ran into this guy at 0:01:33.440 --> 0:01:36.400 a party and he said, man, I used to think 0:01:36.400 --> 0:01:38.280 he was on drugs and stuff. Man, because used to 0:01:38.319 --> 0:01:43.280 fight so much. Oh man, speaking of fighting. My first 0:01:43.360 --> 0:01:46.319 I view you was at the gulches. I've seen you 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:53.120 whoop two dudes outside of the gulches. Yeah, I was. 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.800 I was pretty active. I said, Man, this dude got 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.880 some hands, not me. I didn't. I didn't go into 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:05.560 the clubs to uh until I started doing music. But 0:02:05.720 --> 0:02:07.960 back then, I'll just be in a parking lot, you know, 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:12.560 barr and stuff. You know, that was my profession back then. Man, 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:21.880 you had a very interesting life, very uh exploratory. I mean, 0:02:22.560 --> 0:02:25.880 let's let's go back, man, let's let's let's let's go 0:02:25.919 --> 0:02:28.480 to the beginning. You grew up in Houston on the 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:34.240 North Side. You grew up in a family of seven siblings. 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:41.119 You're the youngest. What was that like, man? The thing, man, 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:47.440 the thing I kept hearing from my from everybody, my mama. 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.960 The only person ain't really hear from his my daddy, 0:02:52.040 --> 0:02:57.840 is you're bad like you You're a bad kid. So 0:02:58.960 --> 0:03:02.080 I was fighting everybody in the family. When they told 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:04.320 you when you were bad, did you feel like you 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:08.920 had to live up to that reputation of being bad? No, 0:03:09.120 --> 0:03:11.799 I just I was a different soul. My mama said, 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.800 I popped out of old man or something. You know. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:18.120 I taught myself how to ride a bike at three 0:03:18.160 --> 0:03:21.639 years old. I've been fighting a long time, just like 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:25.799 you identified with fighters. You know, after we get through 0:03:25.880 --> 0:03:29.440 the physical part of it, we realized we don't know 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:32.600 how to fight through the elements, things that hold us down. 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:36.720 But I fought everything. Man. My mama said that six 0:03:36.720 --> 0:03:40.480 months old, I was kicked out of a daycare and 0:03:41.040 --> 0:03:43.560 out of here. You get kicked out of a man. 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:47.400 Everybody my family held to it, and my my brothers 0:03:47.440 --> 0:03:50.280 and sisters. They went to the daycare after school was out, 0:03:51.280 --> 0:03:55.400 and my mama came there and they said, look, ma'am, 0:03:55.480 --> 0:03:57.760 we can't we can't have y'all here this This little 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:01.360 kid is damaging the other kids. They were using people. Man, 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:05.200 how does a six month old kids get kicked out 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.520 of a daycare? You can't even walk? I mean, what 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.800 are you? What are you doing? That's all I knew 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:13.840 was fighting. You were scratching on the kids, punched kids. 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:20.200 You know, my god daughter works at a nursery, right, 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.719 and she works for a little bitty kids and some 0:04:22.880 --> 0:04:25.320 little girl, like I think she said a little girl 0:04:25.400 --> 0:04:29.120 was like maybe three three year old girl better on 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:33.160 the leg the other day and she had to take it. 0:04:34.680 --> 0:04:38.960 I'm sure I did someboding too. Yeah, But what I 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:43.640 realized Willie, to a lot of kids that are labeled 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:48.600 it's bad or you know, promisterous and all that other stuff, 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:52.560 there really is something in them just trying to get out. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:54.400 They're trying to figure out who they are, and some 0:04:54.720 --> 0:04:58.400 kids try to figure that out early. You know. That's 0:04:58.440 --> 0:05:01.480 why my life in the street he started a lot 0:05:01.560 --> 0:05:06.440 more earlier than most people, you know, way earlier. I remember, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:12.000 at twelve years old, sitting at the table eating dinner 0:05:12.040 --> 0:05:15.360 with the family, and I told everybody that I was 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:18.559 gonna move out and I'll never forget my older sister 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:23.000 like spit like laughing at me. And they didn't even know. 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.920 I've already started saving. I was already plotting to get 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:29.560 out of the house at twelve. Where are you getting 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:36.479 savings from? At twelve years old? Well, I was hustling, hustling, Uh, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.280 stealing a little candy balls, selling them the twenty five cents. 0:05:41.520 --> 0:05:45.240 I went from that to uh, stealing bikes, repainting them 0:05:45.240 --> 0:05:52.040 and selling them. Always, I never really spent money when 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.240 you when you were stealing these bikes and painting them? 0:05:55.320 --> 0:05:58.840 Where are you storing these bikes at the house? And 0:05:59.160 --> 0:06:03.200 your mom is not like asking questions? That's the crazy part. 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:05.920 My daddy would tell her. Look, he called a genie, 0:06:05.920 --> 0:06:09.000 Look Jennie, a boy, and they're doing something. My mama 0:06:09.000 --> 0:06:10.960 always I don't know, he ain't that's his friends or 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:14.520 what she was always cover from her. She was blind 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:20.200 to my my bad. You feel what I'm saying, and uh, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:24.440 I probably would have changed earlier. But my my mother 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.000 was an educated woman. My dad had never been to school. 0:06:27.200 --> 0:06:29.840 He grew up in Georgia. He had to work the farm. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:37.400 He was born in the late twenties. And that's why 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:43.919 you're old soul. Your daddy was old man? Was he 0:06:44.000 --> 0:06:47.200 was still about that life? What was he was? He 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.960 like a mobile guy with me? Was he at? My 0:06:51.080 --> 0:06:53.520 dad was super active like my mama used to make 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:56.599 jokes saying he never died like my dad had, moved 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.839 around like he was twenty five. Even when I my 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.200 last memories of him, he was moving around like me 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.240 when we was doing stuff. He was never stiff, none 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:07.920 of that. So he I don't know what kind of 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:11.119 gene that is. My wife said, I got the same gene. 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.880 But we'll see as I get older. But but what 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:20.320 I wanted to say is, man, my daddy, you know 0:07:20.520 --> 0:07:23.200 the old school ways. When we would act up, he 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:27.120 would handle us. But the way he handled us used 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.760 to scare my mama like so she was like, no, 0:07:30.960 --> 0:07:36.040 I don't want you whipping him no more. My daddy said, okay, 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.760 when they get locked up, he named everything that happened 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:43.280 to me and my brother when they get locked up. 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:50.000 When he gets shot, don't come to me. I'm not 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.000 he said, I'm not using my money to bell him 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:57.840 out of jail. And don't come crying to me. He said, 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.520 I know my bloodline. He said, you after excuse my language, 0:08:01.520 --> 0:08:03.679 you have to have killes niggas to get him in line. 0:08:05.120 --> 0:08:09.680 And my mama stopped my daddy from from discipline in us. Shoot, 0:08:10.800 --> 0:08:14.480 my brother went crazy, so y'all once y'all new that 0:08:16.120 --> 0:08:20.520 she had basically, uh, put up the green the red light. Man, 0:08:20.800 --> 0:08:22.760 it was a wrap. It was a green light for y'all. 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:25.080 It was all systems go, y'all smashed the gas. My 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.120 brother was trapping out my mama's house out the window 0:08:28.520 --> 0:08:32.680 like he was doing everything, and I was into cause. 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.600 But that that happened a little later. But did your 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.400 dad stick these guns that he never tried to discipline 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:43.800 y'all after that statement one time, one time he called 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:47.920 me grown man stole. I was trying. I had some 0:08:47.960 --> 0:08:49.679 stuff I had to go out of town and go 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:54.800 get and my mama was was doing her thing, trying 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:56.600 to keep me at the house. She was talking to me, 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.640 and my dad was in the backyard playing and flowers 0:09:00.679 --> 0:09:05.959 for and Uh, I started talking crazy to my mama. 0:09:06.080 --> 0:09:07.600 That was the first time I did it in front 0:09:07.640 --> 0:09:11.160 of him. You know, I had my own money, had 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:14.600 my own stuff on costs. I'm like man's It was 0:09:14.640 --> 0:09:18.000 all in my head at the time. Dumb teenager, and 0:09:19.720 --> 0:09:21.679 I think I said a cuss word or something. I 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:23.839 didn't cuss, I'd though, but I said a cuss word. 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:27.920 And before I can even turn my old man was 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:33.720 probably ten ft maybe fifteen feet away from it. I 0:09:33.800 --> 0:09:36.960 said the word in front of my mama and split 0:09:37.040 --> 0:09:40.480 second he was on his feet. What was the word? 0:09:44.280 --> 0:09:47.120 What did I tell her? I was so crazy back then? 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.560 I got to think about it. I think I told 0:09:49.640 --> 0:09:53.520 I said, uh, I said, my ain't gonna you ain't 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:55.720 going to treat me like a bit or something like that. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:58.480 I think I told her that I was talking crazy 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.679 like that, and my old man got up and hit 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:04.680 me with a right lifted my feet off the ground. 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:08.199 I landed on my back. I never forget that, busting 0:10:08.240 --> 0:10:11.880 my nose and my lip. He stood over me. He said, look, 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:17.040 nobody talked to my wife like that. And did your 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:21.199 mother defend you? Did she try to get him off you? 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:25.240 Now he just hit me one time. You know, old 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:28.160 man had a reserve about him. They don't make him 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.120 like him no more. I think you know what I'm 0:10:30.120 --> 0:10:33.679 talking about. Like when men used to be used to 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.520 be the strength of the household. You know, my dad 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.720 was built like that. He was hard as they come. 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.480 He talked about walking his sister home from school and 0:10:44.480 --> 0:10:50.520 seeing people hanging from trees and stuff and Georgia co 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:57.520 quit Georgia away from little tiny town in Georgia. And 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:00.720 he was a Blue s guitars too though, and he 0:11:00.840 --> 0:11:04.640 put that down to work construction to put my mama 0:11:04.640 --> 0:11:07.120 through college. So is that where you picked up the 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.360 music front? You know, you know what's crazy? Really? I 0:11:10.400 --> 0:11:15.439 ain't know. I had no musical abilities until I ended 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:18.719 up being homeless. And how did that? How does a 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:27.280 hustler become homeless? Oh? Man, well, it's it's it's I'm 0:11:27.559 --> 0:11:32.760 I'm gonna eighteen at the time, right when you were homeless. 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:35.400 Yeah yeah, and this is after getting money. He was 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:39.520 a born hustler, yea, So how does that happen? Man? 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:47.200 I'm a backtrack my brother them, you know, they got 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:53.760 into the robbery game. I was young, and uh, he 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:55.960 came in one night and dump money on the bed. 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:03.480 And uh, when I saw that, and I've seen how 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:07.520 my mama then was struggling, I said, I gotta get 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:10.920 to this real money, you know. And I always viewed 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.040 myself my brother was smart, but I felt I was smarter. 0:12:14.600 --> 0:12:16.520 He was smarter in the books, but I was smarter 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:26.000 than strategies. So uh, I started requiring different aspects. I 0:12:26.000 --> 0:12:29.880 didn't like selling drugs. I did it one time. I 0:12:29.960 --> 0:12:36.200 sold probably one rock uh off Kentucky and Bruster right 0:12:36.240 --> 0:12:42.480 there in phil Ward and the police chasers, and I said, nah, 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:49.360 it's too slow and too too you know, predictable. So 0:12:49.440 --> 0:12:52.080 I started going to the junkyard teaching myself how to 0:12:52.120 --> 0:12:57.480 steal cars. And I would go to these little these 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.240 little hull cap spots, you know. He used to have 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:03.079 him the hook spots and asking them, you know, if 0:13:03.120 --> 0:13:06.520 I brought him this, what they would pay men? And 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.440 I kept going around doing that. So I found I 0:13:09.520 --> 0:13:12.360 hit a hard lick in Port of Texas, and it 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.880 was a guy who was selling his parts back to 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:20.080 General Motors and he needed he needed some real stuff. 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:26.960 So long story short, at the age of fourteen, I 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:30.280 had a warehouse and Humble Texas, but I was busting 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:33.679 cars down selling them back to him. I was making 0:13:33.800 --> 0:13:39.520 roughly from fourteen and seventeen years old, thousand dollars a day, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.599 and and what are you doing with this money? And 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:49.840 I just stacked it? Okay, everybody called me a mister. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.199 To this day, they say you don't spend no money. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:56.000 When I got into music business, it was a joke 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.000 going around up top. They just called me a black 0:13:59.080 --> 0:14:02.679 jew and I didn't understand what they meant by it 0:14:02.720 --> 0:14:05.200 until I started. You know, they were saying, because I 0:14:05.200 --> 0:14:07.079 don't spend the money or whatever, I don't go out 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:12.240 and buy jury and all that other stuff. But so 0:14:13.240 --> 0:14:15.440 let me fast forward through that. You know, you're in 0:14:15.440 --> 0:14:18.280 the streets, you're doing a bunch of crazy stuff. First 0:14:18.280 --> 0:14:21.040 time in the club, the police brought me the club. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:25.640 The Gucci is at that same blood Bucket, and it 0:14:25.680 --> 0:14:27.360 was because they saw me about to steal the car 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:29.160 and they got me before I was still in the car, 0:14:30.040 --> 0:14:36.480 a tempted burglary, but I was. I mean, well, I 0:14:36.520 --> 0:14:38.760 wanted to go this. My story is so intense. I'm 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:40.560 just gonna take my time and just tell you like 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:48.640 this from fourteen and seventeen. Man, you're doing all that 0:14:48.680 --> 0:14:53.600 dirt and the street. At some point, calm and gonna 0:14:53.600 --> 0:14:58.480 come and get you. My mom she did so many 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:00.280 things bro to try to keep me in my brother 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.160 out of trouble. Like I said, she was educated, so 0:15:03.280 --> 0:15:05.520 she moved out of the Ward and moved to cynic Wood, 0:15:05.560 --> 0:15:08.720 moved out of synic Wood and moved to Humble. When 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:13.400 we moved Humble, it was probably five six other black 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.240 families in the neighborhood was in it. Other than that, 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.240 it was just you know, pretty much number of white 0:15:18.240 --> 0:15:22.120 boards or whatever. So I learned, like, I hung out 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:25.080 with white boars and learned how to ride four wheelers. 0:15:25.080 --> 0:15:30.320 They were cool with me. One day out there, I'm 0:15:30.360 --> 0:15:35.360 out the field with him. We hit this pop and 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:38.960 when we heard it, I felt like somebody hit me 0:15:39.000 --> 0:15:43.200 with a brick. But my boom, I went like that 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:45.400 and I was gonna start swinging on one of the 0:15:45.400 --> 0:15:47.840 white boys. And they're like, hey, look at your head. 0:15:48.880 --> 0:15:53.680 And it was blood coming near my temple. So man, 0:15:53.720 --> 0:15:59.280 I ran to the house. Uh. My mom took me 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:03.880 to the hospital and they removed a bullet. Who was 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:07.120 a white man see me playing with a little white kids, 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:14.080 and he shot me. My mama shot you from where? 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.840 Like where was he It was a distance, he was 0:16:16.880 --> 0:16:19.040 at another house. He was in his own house. He 0:16:19.200 --> 0:16:23.080 was I don't know if he had a scope or not. 0:16:23.520 --> 0:16:26.360 The boys, the white boys, I've seen beans over the fence. 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.640 They pointed. You know what I'm saying, I ran to 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:30.920 the house because all this blood coming out of my head, 0:16:31.960 --> 0:16:34.720 so the bullet didn't go through my skull and just 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.480 cut the skin and they had to like pull it out. 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:43.360 And for those who don't know, humblesh just north of Houston. Um, 0:16:43.400 --> 0:16:47.080 it's like basically a suburb of Houston. But you can't 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.960 tell people who lived there that. You know, the people 0:16:49.960 --> 0:16:52.240 who have been living that forever, they think it's a 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:59.440 real city. But go ahead, and my mom called the 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:04.080 shares over there, man, and you know, my little white 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.280 boy friends. They went to the house, showing the sheriffs 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:09.920 his house, all this dif my mom come. I came, 0:17:11.720 --> 0:17:16.000 and my mama didn't let me get out. She let 0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:18.840 me stay in our car, and my mama told me 0:17:18.920 --> 0:17:23.280 this story. She said she went in the house and 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:25.880 the little white boys I did him as the one 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:29.040 that shot me. She went in this house and she's 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:35.240 seen all this army rememory of deal you and as 0:17:35.280 --> 0:17:37.240 the sheriffs we questioned and he was like, oh, you know, 0:17:37.320 --> 0:17:40.400 I was just taking some pot shots at my gate. 0:17:40.520 --> 0:17:42.119 I don't know how I got, you know, like he 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:45.520 was target practice. In his backyard with a right really, 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:52.480 So the sheriffs turned to my mama and asked her 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:57.080 that you want to press charges? And my mama noticed 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.679 it was a tattoo on for the shares fingers. My 0:18:01.760 --> 0:18:05.000 mama was, you know, my mama from Fifth War a period, 0:18:05.040 --> 0:18:08.439 so you know. And she noticed both shares had the 0:18:08.520 --> 0:18:11.840 same mark on their hand as the dude who shot men, 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:19.240 and she decided not to press charges because of fear 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:21.840 of her safety. For us, you know what I'm saying, 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.600 That ain't even a fucking question. Do you want to 0:18:24.680 --> 0:18:28.120 press charges? You got a mother who just shot somebody, 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.760 and your job as a so called peace officers to 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.760 keep the pieces to go in and make their rest, 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:39.119 eliminate the threat from the citizens of the community that 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:42.199 you serve. Whoever those cops were. Let me go on 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:44.439 the record and say your mama should be embarrassing your 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:48.320 dad and should have pulled out. Go ahead. So that 0:18:48.440 --> 0:18:53.159 was my first experience, which is, you know, how did 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:55.560 you get shot? That's what I'm going to go and 0:18:55.680 --> 0:18:57.600 hold hold them before you answer that, I need to 0:18:57.640 --> 0:18:59.280 get back to the bag. I don't want to go 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:01.320 too far away from the bag. How did you blow 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:05.640 the bag and end up homeless. Well, let me get 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:11.720 through that. Because you are, because you're you're, you're You're 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:16.159 how old at this time when you got shot the 0:19:16.200 --> 0:19:20.480 first time? The first time? I was well, I was 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:25.399 probably about twelve when I got shot. Ye damn, I 0:19:25.440 --> 0:19:30.040 was wrong. Okay, that's now, that's the shot by the 0:19:30.040 --> 0:19:32.400 white man. We're gonna get into the getting shot by 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:35.200 the brother. Did you get shot? What came first the 0:19:35.880 --> 0:19:41.040 second shooting? Are the blowing the bag? What came first 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:47.360 the second shooting? Okay, okay, let's talk about let's talk 0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:54.240 about it all right. I had this, Uh see, I'm 0:19:54.280 --> 0:19:57.679 a I'm an inventor. I'm gonna thinker man. I always 0:19:57.680 --> 0:20:00.320 think of head, always try to play, strategize things of 0:20:00.400 --> 0:20:06.679 that nature. And I wanted I wanted to get more calls, 0:20:06.840 --> 0:20:12.159 to make more money. So I had got this this 0:20:12.280 --> 0:20:16.840 clep throw out of Kingwood. There was a white boy. 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:19.400 He's still for the front of it. Daddy was adoptor 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:21.720 all this other stuff. But he was the only one 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:26.879 who could steal in broad daylight. Never got caught broad 0:20:27.000 --> 0:20:30.159 daylight going to these cars. People are walking right by him. 0:20:30.200 --> 0:20:33.600 He popping these cars. We had to go at night. Oh, 0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:36.000 it had to be parked in a garage or somewhere, 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:41.600 you know. So the guy was such a clepto man. 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:47.040 He ended up stealing his neighbor. This is how start. 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:51.520 He end up stealing his neighbor's motorcycle. Next door neighbor. 0:20:51.520 --> 0:20:54.600 Ain't talking about two three dollars down next door neighbor 0:20:57.240 --> 0:21:02.359 and painting. So the neighbor he ain't never been in 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:06.880 trouble before. So the neighbor call the cops. They take 0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:12.880 him down, scanned and he ratched my whole thing out. 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:16.359 I ain't had nothing to do with the motorcycle, and 0:21:16.400 --> 0:21:18.679 I had that in the back of my mind. I'm like, 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:23.199 you know, I figured I needed the to move my 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:28.160 little waitrehouse or something at some point. So anyway, that's 0:21:28.160 --> 0:21:32.160 when they started. They had a warehouse. And how old 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:37.119 were you at this time? I got at fourteen, And 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.760 I gotta ask this question because somebody's out that thinking 0:21:40.760 --> 0:21:44.040 it kind of hell does a fourteen year old get 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:49.240 the credentials to rent a warehouse? At that time? Crackheads, 0:21:49.280 --> 0:21:53.080 I had a lot of stuff because the crack is okay, 0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:55.760 apartments all kind of you can do a lot of stuff. 0:21:55.800 --> 0:21:58.879 You don't you just use somebody older. I told you 0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:03.040 all this, guys, and interesting story, this journey, it's rather colorful. 0:22:04.680 --> 0:22:12.920 It's colorful. Brother. And uh So in between that time 0:22:14.080 --> 0:22:17.440 they watched them and they investigating me, I had a 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:21.040 number job. You probably ain't heard that terminology in years, 0:22:22.520 --> 0:22:25.000 you know, the number job. He was right at a 0:22:25.080 --> 0:22:29.359 number job and it was clean boy, clean regal, and 0:22:29.400 --> 0:22:31.639 I just I had this new girlfriend. I wanted to 0:22:31.640 --> 0:22:34.879 stunt on him. So, man, I had it cleaned up. 0:22:35.920 --> 0:22:38.639 And I usually don't do my number jobs like that. 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:40.800 I hold, I sell it and somebody else by it 0:22:40.880 --> 0:22:44.760 or whatever. But I wanted to stunt this one. And 0:22:44.960 --> 0:22:48.920 uh and they were already and following me. They already 0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:53.200 was like clagging up on me, and man, they pulled 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:56.320 me over. When they pulled me over, that's when I 0:22:56.640 --> 0:22:58.800 they took me down and I found found out that 0:22:58.880 --> 0:23:02.040 the dude snitched me. All that stuff they went and 0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:10.720 just got everything. In between that time, you know, I 0:23:10.840 --> 0:23:18.080 got out. I was out on Born and um I 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.800 went to uh. I had one of my homebuys picked 0:23:21.800 --> 0:23:25.520 me up and I went to this this club off 0:23:25.600 --> 0:23:27.919 of Kirk and doll in nineteen six. It was a 0:23:27.920 --> 0:23:32.399 teenage club called Kocomo's. I don't over you remember that? 0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:36.240 Remember that? But that was the only club you could 0:23:36.280 --> 0:23:42.359 go to and and run into everybody like Mexicans, white boys, 0:23:43.240 --> 0:23:47.840 the black dudes, the whole nine. So my partner took 0:23:47.880 --> 0:23:50.320 me over there. I'm looking for this girl, the same 0:23:50.359 --> 0:23:52.760 one I was. I was trying to stunt on, but 0:23:52.840 --> 0:23:55.399 she the type. She ain't faithful like that, so I 0:23:55.480 --> 0:23:57.240 knew it. I knew she was kind of wild. But 0:23:58.359 --> 0:24:01.119 so I went looking for into the club. The club 0:24:01.240 --> 0:24:04.320 was closed, so we went down the street to this 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:07.280 little stop and go. Everybody using to hang out over there, 0:24:08.600 --> 0:24:11.679 but usually it's a huge crowd. This time the crowd split. 0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:16.240 Nah this nineteen six and kirgandhal, you don't get that 0:24:16.320 --> 0:24:20.320 gangster over there, Like you know, we used to slap 0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.159 dudes and pull them out their call over there. So 0:24:22.200 --> 0:24:25.560 I'm like, we pull up right in the middle of it. 0:24:26.640 --> 0:24:29.920 I looked to the left. There's some dude holding the 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:35.600 chrome pisa, pacing talking real loud. I'm like, that's reckless. 0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:39.520 I looked to the right and I one of my 0:24:39.880 --> 0:24:43.520 partners from the hood was over there, so I walked 0:24:43.520 --> 0:24:46.880 over to him. I said, man, what's going on? He said, Man, 0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:50.200 these dudes want to fight over some broad and I've 0:24:50.200 --> 0:24:51.720 seen him. Was leaning on his car. He had a 0:24:51.760 --> 0:24:55.399 pump shotgun behind his leg, excuse me, And I know 0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:59.840 him he will use it, so I already knew his 0:25:00.000 --> 0:25:03.240 gonna be all the way live. So I asked him, 0:25:03.240 --> 0:25:06.800 did he see this girl? Her name was Keisha? Ironically, 0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:12.280 and uh, I'm heading back to the car because I know, 0:25:13.080 --> 0:25:17.280 I know this dude is real. While so I'm heading 0:25:17.280 --> 0:25:20.399 back to the car and I'm about to get in 0:25:20.480 --> 0:25:24.880 the car, and he said something to me, and I said, huh, 0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:28.320 I don't even remember what he said. And when I 0:25:28.320 --> 0:25:30.080 went back this way to get in the car, home 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.440 bark with that chrome pistol can run right over the car. 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:39.960 Bah bust men's face. The bullet knocked me off my feet, 0:25:40.000 --> 0:25:45.960 will him yea, I'll never forget this, bro. You know, 0:25:47.280 --> 0:25:50.920 people people say theatrical stuff when they talk about life 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:55.399 and death, but the only way to describe it is 0:25:55.440 --> 0:26:00.800 the way you know it. When I I fell on 0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:04.840 my back, man, and yeah, I knew I got hit, 0:26:05.480 --> 0:26:08.120 but I didn't know I got hit. It's like my 0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:10.719 mind was going in reverse, like trying to catch up 0:26:10.720 --> 0:26:15.920 to what actually happened. And I staggered to my feet, man, 0:26:18.960 --> 0:26:22.280