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Speaker 3: Just I don't know, man, I don't love it to

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Speaker 3: I did recently have a spam musubi, which is like

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Speaker 1: Yeah, spam musubi is crazy good. And if you've ever

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Speaker 2: It is darn air.

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Speaker 1: Ubiquitous in Hawaii, and yeah, it's tough for everyone. It

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Speaker 1: in today's classic episode, we are joined with our legendary

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Speaker 1: dear friend of our show, dear friend at our personal lives,

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Speaker 1: the co host and co creator of Savor, Annie Reese.

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Speaker 1: She's gonna help us understand just how ridiculous the origin

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Speaker 3: It is, indeed, so let's roll that beautiful spam footage.

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of iHeartRadio. Hello everyone, ridiculous historians,

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Speaker 1: thank you for tuning in. This is the show where

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Speaker 1: we look at some of the strangest, weirdest, most bizarre,

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Speaker 3: Animals, vegetables, minerals today. I'm not sure which category this

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Speaker 3: topic falls under, but it's it's a thing, it's historically driven.

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Speaker 2: And it's a fun thing.

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Speaker 3: It is a fun thing. You know what just happened?

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Speaker 3: I want to point out by the way, Ben.

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Speaker 2: What's that?

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Speaker 3: Noel, our super producer Casey Pegrin said, Okay, start talking,

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Speaker 3: go right, go. He literally cracked the whip at us.

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Speaker 3: I will because you you would.

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Speaker 1: You had thrown both Casey and I under the bus

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Speaker 1: before the before the show started. Yeah, by by saying

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Speaker 1: that you are more grateful than anyone for a particularly surprising,

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Speaker 3: That's just me over compensating. You notice about me, Ben?

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Speaker 2: You know this about me?

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Speaker 3: Do you want how about this? Let's let's drop the

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Speaker 3: drop the goods. What do we have today? That's so right,

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Speaker 3: that's correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we have today an amazing story about an

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Speaker 1: iconic food product that everyone in the US is aware of,

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Speaker 1: and I assume many people throughout the world are aware

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Speaker 1: of this. It is called spam. But you and I

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Speaker 1: called in an expert. Folks, would like to introduce you

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Speaker 4: Hi, everybody, thanks so much for having me. Guys, did

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Speaker 4: you know that you were a spam expert?

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Speaker 3: Annie?

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Speaker 2: Spam spurt? You know, I am so disgusting. That does

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Speaker 2: sound really gross. Yeah, it didn't work out.

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Speaker 3: It's like what happens when you opened the can and

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Speaker 2: Oh, I did not need that mental image.

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Speaker 3: You didn't know it, but she did.

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Speaker 3: Okay, expert maybe not. I don't know. We're all kind

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Speaker 3: How about that?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I like about spam consultant.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to go it sounds like an email. I

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Speaker 3: And there's others too. There's a shoulder of pork and

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Speaker 1: And it was made by Hormel Foods. They initially pitched

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Speaker 1: So this eventually, okay, we walked through this real quick.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty harsh. Those are some sick burns. Do you

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Speaker 4: I didn't find much about that at all. In fact,

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Speaker 3: It was kind of lost on people. Clearly they were

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Speaker 1: But you know, it's similar to the way that instead

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Speaker 4: I wonder if it's possible too that because spam was

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Speaker 1: Annie is Annie has throwing some great propaganda. Yeah, she's

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Speaker 1: got these tiny American flags. She's gently twisting between her

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Speaker 2: Shut off a firecracker. I always come with crops, I

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Speaker 3: Very true.

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Speaker 4: But I wonder if maybe they made a miscalculation and thought, oh,

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Speaker 3: Oh man, this is like a like an attempt, like

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Speaker 1: Because it is free advertising when you think about it.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point because these soldiers from the US

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a government contract, so you're getting paid

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Speaker 4: of my favorite quotes about spam, because there are a

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Speaker 4: lot of excellent quotes about spam. Hormale describes it as

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna need you to unpack that for us A

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like you put it in that can. It's like

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Speaker 4: I got it pushing pause. Another one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: I love that idea of being cursed by the success

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Speaker 1: So is it that the soldiers genuinely didn't like the

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Speaker 4: Japanese immigrants couldn't fish. They also were incorporating spam in

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Speaker 2: Soldiers were just eating them cold.

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Speaker 4: Out of the ten, I think I have very limited

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Speaker 2: I don't know about the two of you, but.

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Speaker 3: I limited limited. Yeah, purposely.

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Speaker 1: I will make a confession that Casey and Annie probably know,

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Speaker 1: you probably don't know I received in my early years

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Speaker 2: Do you remember this, Andy.

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Speaker 1: It's just three cans of spam that have been wrapped

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Speaker 1: It's one of the most prestigious awards I've ever received.

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Speaker 1: It's also still in our office in case of an emergency.

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Speaker 2: Yes, the case of a trophy emergency.

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Speaker 1: The case of a trophy case, we're trapped here and

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Speaker 1: we have to eat spam. Oh yeah, I think about that.

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Speaker 3: But it's already spiced. I mean, what else does in need?

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Speaker 4: It's right, the secret nitrate.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what else you're missing.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's I think it's a thing that a

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Speaker 4: Yes, and to get back to the point, they were

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Speaker 4: A lot of soldiers when they went home, they brought

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Speaker 3: They were also turning spam into spam and ade, right.

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Speaker 1: Right, And that wasn't just during World War Two, I

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Speaker 4: Folks weren't either, but they called it army stew, and

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Speaker 4: To this day, Korea is spam's second largest market and

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Speaker 4: it's a popular gift on Lunar New Year in that country.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, mm hmmm, Oh, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: Do they have different varieties of spam in different countries,

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Speaker 2: But Hawaii for sure is the biggest market.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you have some stats for us about that? Do I? Ever?

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Speaker 2: And I'm not sure.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know that spam had this association with Hawaii

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Speaker 3: I think around six cans a year for every man, uh,

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Speaker 1: I can't we completely forgot Hey, Casey, yes, do you

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Speaker 1: have do you have.

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Speaker 2: Any experience for familiarity with spam?

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Speaker 3: Just the other weird al song, the Rim parody?

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Speaker 2: Wait?

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Speaker 3: Which was that spam?

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Speaker 2: And the place where you live? You know that one?

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Speaker 3: I don't. Yeah, it's a deep weird Outcot's stand by Rim.

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Speaker 4: Is this?

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Speaker 3: Is this like a classic?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Mid eight I means whenever stand was out? So okay,

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Speaker 3: Casey on the case turning Casey on the case like

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Speaker 2: Any oh yeah, I mean it's got to because he's

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Speaker 1: We we love being able to drop the sounds so

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Speaker 1: multiple Yeah, well just listen after Casey spins this in

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Speaker 1: different spends the spam into gold.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be shocked.

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Speaker 4: The Hawaii also has what looks to be one of

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Speaker 2: Be over the moon to attend.

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Speaker 4: It's called spam Jam Festival in Waikiki, and I was

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Speaker 4: I think somebody got married there once. It looks awesome

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Speaker 4: a joke or not when I was reading that. In

446
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,639
Speaker 4: the state they call it Hawaiian steak.

447
00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,159
Speaker 1: Okay, so actual native Hawaiians call.

448
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 2: It that, from what I understand from what the Internet

449
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 2: tells me, is okay, okay.

450
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm trying to figure out if we can

451
00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,120
Speaker 1: say that or if that's mocking it.

452
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 2: Yeah right, I'm not here to mock.

453
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 3: Surely they also have steak in Hawaii.

454
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,119
Speaker 2: Surely they do, but probably they prefer spam.

455
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure steak is certainly much more

456
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: expensive than they're just here on the mainland.

457
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 2: That is true.

458
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, we kind of take for granted the fact

459
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 3: that they are sort of isolated and require all of

460
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,719
Speaker 3: their goods to be shipped in literally, you know, by

461
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 3: plane or by sea.

462
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, which makes things expensive.

463
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 1: So the legacy of spam established during World War Two

464
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 1: and the Korean War takes this canned food product, this

465
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:34,600
Speaker 1: animal matter from Minnesota to its new home in You said,

466
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 1: Hawaii is by far the largest market. Korea is second.

467
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: That that would that should surprise a lot of people, right,

468
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: because spam feels like such an American food because of

469
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 1: the way it's spread across the planet.

470
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it surprised me.

471
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Speaker 4: I do find it really fascinating that it's so localized,

472
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 4: it's so specific where people love it. And then I

473
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 4: feel like the rest of the world and the rest

474
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 4: of the US were kind of like, that's that weird

475
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 4: food thing.

476
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 2: What is that exactly?

477
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,639
Speaker 4: But I would like to mention that there is an

478
00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,719
Speaker 4: amazing I've never been, but listeners have sent like some

479
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 4: some stuff they've gotten from this museum in Austin, Minnesota,

480
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 4: which is, like you said, spamtam USA. And if anyone

481
00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 4: has the opportunity, I highly recommend it.

482
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 2: It's hands on it touch the spam hams on right. Nice.

483
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 4: You get to race to see how many cans of

484
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: fake it's fake spam that you can make in a minute.

485
00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 2: It's practice spam.

486
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, like you're trying to shove it into the can

487
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 4: and you're competing against like a robot.

488
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like the world of Coca Cola

489
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: in Atlanta. But yeah, with spam, yes, I would hope

490
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,440
Speaker 3: that you would have the opportunity to sample different titles Spam,

491
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 3: the Spams.

492
00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 2: Of the World, Allah, World of Code.

493
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 3: That would be super cool. We we didn't really talk

494
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 3: about this, and I think it's fine to say it.

495
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:06,760
Speaker 3: For the end, Spam is cooked in the can. Yeah,

496
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: the way it's made, isn't that weird? That that struck

497
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: me as super odd? And there's a reason for that,

498
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 3: right an.

499
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it has to do with that whole shelf

500
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 4: stable thing, because you wanna you want to mix the

501
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 4: meat in a vacuum and vacuum seal it and then

502
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 4: cook the whole can.

503
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 2: That's part of the whole meat with a pause button thing.

504
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 4: It's so nothing gets in there that you don't want,

505
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 4: unless maybe you don't want the spam, but that's a

506
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 4: whole different argument.

507
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 2: And when you.

508
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 4: Cook it, the the meat breaks down and you're laughed

509
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 4: with a little a little loaf of spam and some juices.

510
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: We're not making it sound very appetite.

511
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: Semi gelatinous almost hm, not as gelatinous as it could

512
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 3: be if it didn't have that additive, right, because it

513
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: was one of those additives that keeps it from forming

514
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: like a gross congealed layer of goo on the top,

515
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 3: to make something that's already not super appetizing practically inedible.

516
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you, guys, I will I make a

517
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: mean spam fried rice if you ever want to come over.

518
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: I'd be cool that if you cut it in the

519
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,959
Speaker 3: little cubes like that, right, it's like you hide it.

520
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 3: It's like the way I feed my kid vegetables. You know,

521
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 3: I shopped the carrot stuff so small you can't even

522
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 3: see them. I mean, spam, for all intensive purposes probably

523
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 3: tastes fine, But the texture of it and the look

524
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 3: of it, and the idea of it just give me

525
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:20,879
Speaker 3: the grossouts.

526
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: It's the fact that it comes out can shaped. I

527
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: think for a lot of people. You see the rills

528
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: in the can. Yeah, yeah, but not everybody. Not everybody

529
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: hated it, right, we said, Hawaiian's welcomed it with open arms.

530
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: People in parts of the Pacific Rim also really enjoyed it,

531
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: and the Russians liked it. They called it Roosevelt sausage.

532
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: To be fair, Russian Russian food's pretty gross.

533
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 1: I feel like in terms of cuisine, Russians already very

534
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 1: familiar with a lot of canned meat products, you know, yeah,

535
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: like anchovies, different potted meats. So maybe it was just

536
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: something that already seemed familiar to them.

537
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 3: Okay, And first of all, for any Russian listeners out there,

538
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: I want to apologize for insulting the entire cuisine of Russia,

539
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 3: but I just never really run across Russian food that

540
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 3: was particularly appetite to me. It seems like a lot

541
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 3: of cabbage, a lot of like lard based things and

542
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 3: borshed and you know, very rustic kind of stuff.

543
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: There's a great Russian restaurant up north of Atlanta where

544
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: we are based, and I would highly.

545
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: Recommend checking it out.

546
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,679
Speaker 1: And actually, you know, in defense of Russian food, this

547
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: is totally nonspare, but in defense of Russian food, make

548
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,200
Speaker 1: friends with someone who cooks Russian food themselves.

549
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: And it will be amazing. Yeah, there's always like thirty

550
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 2: dishes of things.

551
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would imagine that there's probably a lot of

552
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 4: food that is historically Russian that we just have lost. Yeah,

553
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 4: we've forgotten that it is, or we've made it our

554
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 4: own thing. I'm sure thinking of any right now, but

555
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 4: I'm sure there's good Russian fear, and.

556
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 3: We do like a chicken Kiev.

557
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we could do a Russian food update too. Sure

558
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: we're going to get some emails about this one. Another

559
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: one of, perhaps one of the most famous Russian fans

560
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: of spam was Soviet Premier Nikita Krushchev. Oh yeah, he

561
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:23,239
Speaker 1: wrote about spam in his memoirs called Krushev remembers not

562
00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: the most amazingly innovati threat though never Yeah, he probably

563
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: had some threats in there. He probably took some shots.

564
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: But in the memoir he specifically shouts out spam by saying, quote,

565
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: there were many jokes going around in the army, some

566
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: of them off color of American spam.

567
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 2: It tastes good.

568
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: Nonetheless, without spam, we will not feed our army. We

569
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: would have lost our most fertile land, most fertile land. Dah,

570
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 1: got it, got it?

571
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 2: Who was that Russian guy?

572
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 3: It was? It was Krushchev was.

573
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 2: Terrible.

574
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we've got I've got a practice on

575
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: the accents, folks. But he raises an interesting point. You

576
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,680
Speaker 1: know that similar to what was happening with war survivors

577
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: in the countries on the Pacific Rim. There were people

578
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: who would have starved without access to this easily transportable,

579
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: infinitely durable food.

580
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, kind of along the same lines. Margaret Thatcher called

581
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: it a wartime delicacy. She called spam a wartime delicacy.

582
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,719
Speaker 4: And it's interesting, I think, because there is an odd

583
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: sense of nostalgia for spam that a lot of people have,

584
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,360
Speaker 4: and I feel that it needed time to get away

585
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 4: from the war the direct aftermath, but then after that

586
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 4: people had this association with spam.

587
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 2: It was there for me when I needed it.

588
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,080
Speaker 4: Yeah.

589
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 3: It's also one of those things where it's like it

590
00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: hasn't changed much. The branding is the same. It's you know,

591
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 3: people have fond memories of that and they like the

592
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 3: idea of, you know, everything in this in this fast paced,

593
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: mixed up world of ours, everything's always changing a mile

594
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: a minute, but we can rely on spam.

595
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: Yes, the spam never changes.

596
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 3: Like our true North.

597
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: There we go, true North of canned animal matter.

598
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: I do have a question, this is something that I

599
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: was wondering if we could explore together, how did spam

600
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: also become a term for deluges of bizarre emails.

601
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,400
Speaker 2: Well then it has to do with Monty Python.

602
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, that's sketch.

603
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 2: Right, yes, huh can you describe the sketch?

604
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 3: We should just play a clip of it.

605
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 5: Oh you go, then all this egg and bikon eggs,

606
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 5: sausage and bithon egg and spam, egg, bacon and spam, bcon,

607
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 5: sausage and SPA, spam, bacon, sausage and SPA, spam, eggs, spat, spat,

608
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 5: bacon and spat, spams, fam, spat, egg and spat, spamspam,

609
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 5: span spam, spam, spat by clean spam, spam, spat spam

610
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 5: prevents the mode I saw Scottish.

611
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:09,719
Speaker 4: Spam.

612
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: I didn't want anything without.

613
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 5: Spam in it. Well, span, eg, sausage and spam. It's

614
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,479
Speaker 5: not much spam in it.

615
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 4: The end credits for that episode, by the way, include

616
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:25,880
Speaker 4: Spam with every company member, Spam, Terry Jones, Terry spam, sausage, spam,

617
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 4: egg spam.

618
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,360
Speaker 3: And the idea of just like inundating you with something.

619
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, like annoying you always kind of just blaring in

620
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 4: the back of your mind. It has no appreciable content.

621
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 4: It's omnipresent. But as you can imagine, Hormel doesn't exactly

622
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: love that association.

623
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: No way.

624
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they've even tried to. I think there

625
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 4: was some very quickly defeated legal way they tried to.

626
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 3: Well, it's not like anybody branded spam. It's just in

627
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 3: the zeitgeys. People just toss it around, you know, yeah,

628
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 3: owns it.

629
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: I'm not sure everyone exactly. I'm not sure what they thought.

630
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 4: They could just send out a message to everyone, a

631
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: spam message and say.

632
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 2: Please use a different term for this, but this thing

633
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 2: is that we're sending.

634
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 1: And usually when people or institutions or companies attempt to

635
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 1: do something like that, they just make the problem much

636
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: much worse, such as when a celebrity politely asked the

637
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: Internet to take down a photo of them.

638
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, what I mean.

639
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: So they've probably done the math and they thought, if

640
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 1: we ask people to not do this, it's not going

641
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: to work.

642
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:40,160
Speaker 2: I know there's some.

643
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: There's a bit of a renaissance sometimes for spam, every

644
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: so often in more high end restaurants, right.

645
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 4: Yes, I saw this a lot when I was in

646
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 4: San Francisco a couple year or so ago.

647
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 2: And there's one restaurant.

648
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 4: I think it's called Le Yacht Club something like that,

649
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 4: and they have a lot.

650
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 2: Of spam options on their menu. And it's a very

651
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 2: nice restaurant.

652
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 3: Is it Hawaiian like tamed? It is just like, what's

653
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: this loco mocho? I keep hearing about? Mocho?

654
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 2: Loco loco is good.

655
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 3: It's like spam with gravy or something. Yes, rice maybe

656
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 3: mm hmm.

657
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 4: It's rice, spam, gravy and a fried egg. You can

658
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,320
Speaker 4: also get it with ground b for other.

659
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: Meats or a hamburger patty either.

660
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: Yes, so that's what I had. I didn't have spam.

661
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,880
Speaker 3: Loco mocho oh okay, okay.

662
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 2: I did have the other one.

663
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 3: And it was very interesting that there's like high end

664
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 3: Hawaiian restaurants that still use this, uh, pretty cheap, not

665
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 3: very nutritional canned meat. Speaking of nutrition, you want to

666
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 3: point out real quick that one of these cans of

667
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 3: spams twelve ounces and it apparently contains about six servings,

668
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 3: which contain so the six servings that they can, which yeah,

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00:34:56,600 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 3: come on really very and it can contains twenty five

670
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:06,720
Speaker 3: percent of the daily recommended fat intake for the US

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00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,280
Speaker 3: and thirty three percent of the sodium.

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Speaker 2: So it's not a health food. No.

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00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: But there's another stet Americans z't approximately three point eight

674
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: cans per second. I have a problem with that step

675
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Speaker 1: because I think Hawaii is throwing off the average.

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Speaker 2: I yes, I would agree.

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Speaker 4: I can't really recall spam ever coming up in my

678
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 4: childhood as an option.

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00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: I don't.

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00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 3: Well, you clearly didn't have elderly parents like I did.

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00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 2: Oh really, they you.

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00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 3: Know, remembered it fondly from the wartime where they spam.

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Speaker 2: Fit.

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00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 3: No, my parents weren't alive in World War Two, but

685
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: their parents were, and so it was something you know,

686
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 3: a lot of people went through the depression, they like

687
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 3: they learned how to hoard properly, and they learned how

688
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,959
Speaker 3: to like be frugal and like use canned meats and things.

689
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 3: I remember growing up in my Grandpapa would make brains

690
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 3: and eggs, which is lightly brain. It's literally I didn't

691
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: even realize this until many years later. It's like cow

692
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 3: brains and eggs. But it was like a cheap part

693
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: that you could just you know, added a little texture

694
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 3: and a little flavor to your eggs. Same with spam

695
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,759
Speaker 3: or something called liver pudding. Or scrapple is what it's

696
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 3: known as in the Wearing, not the Midwest, like up in.

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Speaker 2: The ChIL Yeah, Pennsylvania are yeah exactly.

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00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 3: I liked all of those things and didn't think anything

699
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: of it. But they're both kind of these congealed meat

700
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,880
Speaker 3: cubes that you then slice up and fry like spam.

701
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: So there's there's there's other analogs.

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00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: To spam, for sure.

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00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: Absolutely these are foods that come about out of necessity,

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Speaker 1: you know, And I think necessity and nostalgia are inextricably

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00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 1: intertwined here. So I guess I guess the next question

706
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: will be what is the what is the future of spam?

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00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 1: Are they slowing up? Are they speeding up?

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Speaker 4: I think they they They're in a good place. I

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00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 4: definitely don't think that they need to be worried. I

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00:36:55,719 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 4: Hawaiians love it. They're gonna keep the market going. Like

711
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 4: we said, these fancier restaurants, and this is a trend.

712
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: We see a lot where the combination of high end

713
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:13,359
Speaker 4: and low end. I've seen around Atlanta government cheese at

714
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 4: really nice restaurants. It's pretty frequently. So I don't think

715
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 4: they have to be worried. What they should be worried about.

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00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: Is theft? That's right? Okay, can you tell us a

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00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: little bit about this?

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00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: Yes, we love well. I can't speak for you, but

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00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: I love it. I love a good high story. Do

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Speaker 1: you love a good high story?

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00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 3: No, you are wrong. You shouldn't have spoken about that. Yeah,

722
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 3: of course I love a good high story, especially when

723
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: it involves an absurd potted meat.

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Speaker 4: A spam high story. Is it's up there, that's a

725
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 4: good one. Lately there have been a spate of spam

726
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 4: thefts in Hawaii.

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Speaker 2: Nice.

728
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 4: In one account, three women filled a cart with eighteen

729
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,800
Speaker 4: cans of spam at a drug store and made a

730
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,760
Speaker 4: dash for the exit. But this customer, he just planted

731
00:37:56,840 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 4: himself in front of the doors and said, what are

732
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 4: you doing with that spam? You didn't say that but

733
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 4: along those lines, And they made a run for it,

734
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 4: and they did not succeed in their heist, but enough

735
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 4: people have that now some stores have started storing their

736
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 4: cans of spam locked in those plastic cases that are

737
00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:21,000
Speaker 4: typically a use for expensive items electronics razors. Yeah, now

738
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 4: spam is back there. You have to go ask for

739
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 4: key for your spam.

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Speaker 3: The reason for this is super interesting. It has to

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Speaker 3: do with a change in the law in Hawaii, where

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Speaker 3: I think in the past theft up to three hundred

743
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 3: dollars was considered a felony, and then they raised it

744
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: to seven hundred, so you could steal up to seven

745
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 3: hundred dollars worth of spam and it would be just

746
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 3: a misdemeanor if they caught you. But also it's like,

747
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: how are you going to you know, track down the

748
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Speaker 3: purp if you don't catch them doing it. And the

749
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 3: fact that this famous spam shelf stability means that you

750
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 3: don't have to fence it right away, right you can

751
00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 3: sit on your stash for a while. And this great

752
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: article from grub Street that you turned us onto any

753
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 3: Hawaiian grocery stores reportedly overrun with spam bandits spammed its

754
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: spammed it that it's it's like an epidemic, and it's

755
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 3: a lot. Largely the article conjectures folks are stealing the

756
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Speaker 3: stuff so that they can flip it and buy drugs.

757
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 3: But it's so flippable because the market for spam and

758
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: Hawaii is like through the roof.

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00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Tina Yamaki, the President of Retail Merchants of Hawaii, calls

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Speaker 4: it organized retail crime. And she's spoken a lot about

762
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: the spam black market and how you can buy spam

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00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 4: out of somebody's car, out of their trunk.

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Speaker 1: Wow, it's you know, usually if I see somebody with

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Speaker 1: a ton of canned meat in their trunk standing by

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Speaker 1: the side of the road, my first instinct isn't to

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Speaker 1: ask them how much what the going price is?

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Speaker 2: You clearly not a spam fan, Ben, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm I can say safely, I'm a fan,

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Speaker 1: but I don't think I'm built to be a spam tycoon.

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Speaker 1: I hope they're out there somewhere in Hawaii. I hope

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Speaker 1: there's a black market spam tycoon. And I hope that

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Speaker 1: you are listening to this show.

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Speaker 2: We want to.

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Speaker 3: Make God have mercy on your soul.

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Speaker 1: May God have mercy on your spam?

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00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: I think we all want to hear spam recipes from

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00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: listeners if you're a fan of spam.

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Speaker 3: Well, speaking of spam recipes, we remember we talked about

781
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 3: like how the Hormel company is doing and moving forward

782
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 3: or whatever. Well, they've really embraced a lot of this

783
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: kitch surrounding spam, and like the masubi's and all that,

784
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 3: and they have like recipes on their site for this

785
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 3: is fantastic national geographic article by April Fulton shows some

786
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 3: images of some of the stuff that I'm talking about.

787
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Speaker 3: One of them is a Hello Kitty Spam musubi that

788
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 3: they show you how to make. They also have a tour,

789
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Speaker 3: a national tour called the Tiny House of Sizzle Tour,

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00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 3: where they are shopping around the whole US of a

791
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 3: a spicy Spam breakfast burrito recipe made by their chef

792
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 3: Jordan and Dino, And it's like a traveling Spam food truck,

793
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 3: sort of the way you see the Oscar Mayer Wiener

794
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 3: uh Mobile or whatever. So you know, Spam's not slowing down.

795
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 3: They're they're they're rising to the occasion. They're adapting to

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00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 3: the times. Yeah, they're adapting times.

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00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 2: They always have.

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Speaker 1: I want to show you guys one of my favorite

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Speaker 1: pictures so any on this show, we love vintage averagells too,

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Speaker 1: so Spam Dandy is one of my one of my favorites.

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00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: That they have these collections of all their ads that

802
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:35,719
Speaker 1: have the exact nostalgia tone For anybody who enjoyed our

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00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: previous episode on.

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00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 2: What was it nola, was it meat jell? Oh? Yeah?

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00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: Aspects yeah, and also just like various savory gelatine dishes

806
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 3: that were very popular as like centerpieces and made you

807
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 3: seem like you really had your homemaking skills in order.

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00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 3: And spam. I'm sure it's all part of this, like

809
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 3: the food of the Future movement, the idea, oh well,

810
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 3: just eat out of tens and that's super progressive and

811
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: like shows that we have money or something. Even though

812
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: it was cheap and gelatin was cheap, it was a

813
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,319
Speaker 3: very odd dichotomy and that really interesting to look back on.

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00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 2: Insane gelatine.

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Speaker 1: Just when you see pictures of those things at the

816
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: center of a dining table, it strikes me as lovecrafting.

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00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna be honest, it's something from like the

818
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: Darkness beyond the stars.

819
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 4: Oh I love looking at a good aspect or meat jelly.

820
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 4: They're hilarious and they are that interesting intersection of At

821
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 4: the time, if you didn't have a lot of money,

822
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 4: you wanted to put a lot of work and artistry

823
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 4: into a thing to show that you were successful and

824
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 4: that you could afford to do this.

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00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: But it was a cheap food thing.

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Speaker 4: Everyone was participating in kind of this masquerade, this facade,

827
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 4: and spam is a similar food in that it does

828
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 4: have that futuristic it'll last forever vibe, but it's very

829
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 4: cheap and during the recent recession in two thousand and

830
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 4: eight because of this, spam saw an increase of sales

831
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 4: of ten percent, because yeah, it is a food that

832
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 4: people can't afford. And there aren't strict numbers, but according

833
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 4: to the Hormel website, they estimate twelve point eight cans

834
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 4: of spam are consumed every second across the planet.

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Speaker 3: Mostly and that's not even to speak of the ones

836
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,399
Speaker 3: that are just hoarded in a bombshell's right.

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Speaker 1: Or in the trunk of a Cadillac driving owhere near you.

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Speaker 2: I love it well.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, guys, but I'm filled with

840
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: gratitude at the end of this episode for you, Annie.

841
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 3: My heart is just bursting out of my chest with gratitude,

842
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 3: clearly more gratitude than either Ben or Casey are capable

843
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: of mustering.

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Speaker 2: So I win. Annie.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't really listening when Noel was talking about I

846
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: do want to say thank you so much for coming

847
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: on in the episode. I'm kidding Noel I think we're

848
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 1: both really happy that you took the time here and

849
00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: taught us so much about spam. I'm wondering if I'm

850
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: going to cook some this weekend. We've talked so much

851
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: about it. I feel like we've almost, in a way

852
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,160
Speaker 1: consumed it ourselves just by exploring this concept.

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Speaker 3: I think we should do a potted meat like, uh, potluck,

854
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 3: let's do it, let's get it. Would be a potluck,

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00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 3: a potted potted potted meat.

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00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 4: Look, this is the office to host such an event.

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00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 4: There would be very creative concoctions.

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Speaker 1: Behind the curtain, folks. We recently hung out after work

859
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: and had a game night where we learned well I

860
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: think you already knew all the games, Annie, but we

861
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: both learned some really cool stuff.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, shout out to Dixit right, Dixon, fun to say,

863
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 3: fun to play. That should be their tagline, that to.

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Speaker 2: Have it, you're gonna give it to them for free.

865
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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know. They can send me some some swag,

866
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 3: some mugs or something. You guys can have it was

867
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Speaker 3: so fun. It was It was really really a joy,

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Speaker 3: and it was a successful Game nine and I look

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00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 3: forward to doing it again. But I also look forward

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Speaker 3: to having you Annie on the show again.

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00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 2: Yes please, yes, please, And this was so this was

872
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 2: so much fun. Yes, we're so glad. I enjoyed it.

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Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of food history, as you know

874
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 1: from some of our works outside of this show. But

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Speaker 1: in the meantime, before you make another return appearance, where

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Speaker 1: can our listeners hear more of your work with how

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Speaker 1: Stuff works?

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00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: You can find me over at Savor podcast at your

879
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 4: internet humans. I'm sure you can find it, but it

880
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 4: is I will say it's Savor without the you. So

881
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 4: for the non American listeners among you, and I also

882
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Speaker 4: am a co host of a show called Stuff Mom've

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Speaker 4: Never Told You, which you can google Google right.

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Speaker 2: Away and you'll find it.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic shows. Do check them out, the shows that I

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Speaker 1: personally listened to in my free time. So okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to fanboy out too much, but maybe

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Speaker 1: I'll ask you an autograph.

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Speaker 2: After the show.

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Speaker 3: I definitely listened to the Spam episode today and crypped

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Speaker 3: most of my notes with this episode from that episode.

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Speaker 3: So this is where that this is like a yeah.

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Speaker 1: The stake that consumes its tale and we have more

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Speaker 1: tales to tell we had earlier said that we would

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Speaker 1: be exploring some more spooky stories as we lead up

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Speaker 1: to Halloween, So tune in next time when we delve

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Speaker 1: into this strange story of well mummies.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Mexican mummies to be precise. And in the meantime,

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Speaker 3: I like to thank Casey, our super producer, Alex Williams,

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Speaker 3: who composed our theme, research associates Christopher Hasiotis and Eve's

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Speaker 3: Jeffcoat and Ben as usual, I'd like to throw a

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Speaker 3: little thanks your way, my friend.

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Speaker 1: I would like to treat that thanks like a boomerang,

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Speaker 1: add some extra thanks to it, and make sure it

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Speaker 1: gets right back to you.

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Speaker 3: Why do you aways have to want up be on

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Speaker 3: the thanks?

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Speaker 4: Why not?

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Speaker 2: Man, I just like hanging out.

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Speaker 3: We'll see you next time, folks. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 3: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple p Podcasts, or wherever you

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Speaker 3: listen to your favorite shows.