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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, Welcome to the show. One week from tonight,

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Speaker 1: it begins the NFL Draft, So let's talk John Harris

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Speaker 1: with us, John McLain with us.

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Speaker 2: I'm Mark Vandermere, and we.

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Speaker 1: Are ready for the draft to begin tonight, but it's

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Speaker 1: not going to. So let's get into some elements of this,

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, I'm going to start right here, right now,

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Speaker 1: general will begin with you. Is it as simple as

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Speaker 1: you'll take an offensive lineman in the first round because

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Speaker 1: you're more likely to get a great offensive lineman there,

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Speaker 1: and you can still get a really good wide receiver

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Speaker 1: potentially down the line.

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Speaker 2: Your thoughts good evening well.

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Speaker 3: As I prepare for my forty ninth draft, I'm always

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Speaker 3: very fired up at this time of the year. I

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Speaker 3: wish it were earlier so it wouldn't be the paralys

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Speaker 3: by over analysis, but that's what it is. And I

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Speaker 3: still see a lot of mock drafts having takes, some

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Speaker 3: taking a defensive tackle or a wide receiver. And I

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Speaker 3: still believe what I've said all along. I think he'll

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Speaker 3: be an offensive Linemannick Sario said, they never draft for need.

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Speaker 3: They always draft best player at a need position, and

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Speaker 3: that's what all teams do, but the GMS will never

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Speaker 3: use the word need in their pick, and they need

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Speaker 3: another offensive lineman even though they brought in four, and

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Speaker 3: so I think they'll get one. I think where they

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Speaker 3: pick in that area there are going to be some

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Speaker 3: good ones. I would love Kelvin Banks Junior down there,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think he'll be down there. I would

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Speaker 3: love to have Josh Simmons, the offensive tackle from Ohio State,

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Speaker 3: if the medicals are where they believe they should be

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Speaker 3: after he went down for the season in October with

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Speaker 3: a torne attendant, and even if he had to sit

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Speaker 3: out this season, he would have been the first first

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Speaker 3: offensive lineman taken. So I'd like to see him. Get him.

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Speaker 3: But there's others Tyler Booker, Gray Zabel. I wouldn't mind

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Speaker 3: either one of those guys. I just want to get

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Speaker 3: somebody's physical and nasty and wants to kick some serious.

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Speaker 3: But on every play.

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Speaker 4: General, what would be a bigger surprise Texan's taking a

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Speaker 4: defensive lineman into your defensive lineman or wide receiver at

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Speaker 4: twenty five, which would be a bigger surprise to you?

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Speaker 3: Uh? I think, boy, they have so much depth in

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Speaker 3: their defensive line they've got ends, they've got tackles at

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Speaker 3: Demiko Ryans the last two years has gotten things out

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Speaker 3: of tackles that other teams have not. And they brought

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Speaker 3: back Sheldon Rankins, They've brought back Mario Edwards. Folly Photocosis

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Speaker 3: still out there isn't he Yes, I haven't seen that

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Speaker 3: East sign with anybody. But they have depth inside. I

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Speaker 3: like they brought back Derek Barnett. They have more depth

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Speaker 3: there than they have a wide receiver right now. Now.

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Speaker 3: Their wide receiver is Nico Collins, who missed five games

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Speaker 3: last year in his miss games each of his first

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Speaker 3: three seasons. So they have a bigger need at wide

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Speaker 3: receiver than defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, general. Look, and John, I'll answer your question. I

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Speaker 1: think that it's not much of a surprise if they

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Speaker 1: take a receiver, because what if Booker Banks is abled?

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Speaker 2: What if these guys are all gone?

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Speaker 1: I mean, John, you tell me, what's the potential of

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Speaker 1: those guys all god?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I don't want to say high, but yeah,

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Speaker 4: there's a likely there's a likely potential that one of

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Speaker 4: guy that you've really fallen in love with. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think when I when I did my mock draft,

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Speaker 4: I really I had one of them. I had Zabel left,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, I'm taking Zabel. I like Zabel

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Speaker 4: a lot, and that's the way I went. So I

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Speaker 4: think there's a high potential that those offensive linemen are

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Speaker 4: off the board. I mean, look, the Texans aren't the

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Speaker 4: only team in the NFL that has struggled with their

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Speaker 2: So there're gonna be a number of teams that are looking.

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Speaker 4: There's a high there's a high demand, and I don't

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Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 3: Mark, for sure, general you have Josh Connerly gone the

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Speaker 4: In fact, I had the Chiefs trading up to the

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Speaker 4: pick right in front of the Texans. And that's one

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Speaker 4: of the things about you know about this draft is

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Speaker 4: an offensive linement. So if you're gonna trade from you know,

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Speaker 4: if you're thinking about offensive line, you're like, I got

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Speaker 4: to get in front of the Texans. Well, the Vikings

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Speaker 4: make a lot of sense because they've only got four

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Speaker 2: They need they need picks.

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Speaker 4: And so I can imagine they maybe want to trade

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Speaker 2: And so that's what I had. I did.

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Speaker 4: I had the Chiefs moving up, taking Josh Connery at

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Speaker 4: don't know when it's gonna happen. But because people and

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Speaker 4: it would make a lot of sense for teams to

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Speaker 4: go up. So I had Connory off the board at

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Speaker 4: twenty four, and Zabel and Donovan Jackson were the only

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Speaker 4: only top second round and a half on the NFL.

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Speaker 3: DoD con Bunkie Brooks, who's been doing this forever, and

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Speaker 3: he thinks Donovan Jackson is gonna be a perennial All

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Speaker 3: Pro guard. And since Nick Serio always takes the guys

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Speaker 3: Would he take Donovan Jackson. They did a great job

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Speaker 3: Would he take him over grayz Abel?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's a consideration for sure, and

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Speaker 4: I considered it as well. I just think Zabel is

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Speaker 4: a bit better athlete. I think he's wound the way

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Speaker 4: And here's the other thing. Zabel might play center. And

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Speaker 4: but if Zabel ends up, you know, being a twelve

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Speaker 4: the shot set this morning, I said that, you know,

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Speaker 4: look at gram Barton. Graham Barton at Duke played left

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Speaker 4: we're gonna draft your number twenty two overall and you're

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Speaker 2: And I think that's gonna work on Tampa Bay.

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Speaker 4: So that's the other thing about Zabel, and it gives

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Speaker 4: him some consideration that he could potentially play center and

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Speaker 4: be a really good center. I don't know if that

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Speaker 4: it at least gives his options.

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Speaker 2: Of course, all.

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Speaker 3: Right, like need a really good center who could start

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Speaker 3: for ten years, because Jared Patterson hasn't shown he can

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Speaker 1: Well, in the Football is Weird department, check this out.

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Speaker 1: The second best season regular season in Texans history record

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Speaker 1: wise is what twenty eighteen. They won eleven games, They

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Speaker 1: had a nine game winning streak, best in franchise history,

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Speaker 1: On Davenport and Kendall Lamb. Weird, right, they went eleven

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Speaker 1: games like that? Now, I know it wasn't an offensive

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Speaker 1: played great defensive ball, they were opportunistic, et cetera. But

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Speaker 1: they go into the next year's draft and that was

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Speaker 1: the tightest Howard draft, and what happened. The Eagles jumped

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Speaker 1: in front of the Texans took Andre Dillard. A lot

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Speaker 1: of people thought the Texans wanted Dillard. They were clear

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Speaker 1: that they wanted Titus Howard all along. But the point

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Speaker 1: is this general Nick Cassario's got to play sort of

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Speaker 1: a game of Chicken Russian Roulette.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what the metaphorical game would be here.

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Speaker 1: It's just the NFL draft and he's got to decide

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Speaker 1: do I jump up if there is a player that

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Speaker 1: he loves that's dropping and they're getting close to twenty

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Speaker 1: five and Johnny's machiad the Chiefs jumping in front of

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Speaker 1: the Texans. So what's the percentage chance in your mind

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Speaker 1: of a trade that Nick moves up or back, but

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Speaker 1: move anywhere off twenty five? What do you think the likelihood.

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Speaker 2: Is of that?

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Speaker 3: Sixty five to seventy five percent? Just because Nick likes

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Speaker 3: to make trades.

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Speaker 2: That's a lot, that's the majority. So which one would

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Speaker 2: you pick? General? Is it just all based on players

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Speaker 4: Like if Banks is there at nineteen twenty twenty one

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Speaker 4: move up for? Is Booker a player you'd move up for?

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Speaker 4: Is there a player in mind that you might think

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Speaker 3: If Gray's able and Donvan Jackson were going to be

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't. What do they have for the.

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Speaker 2: Top ninety, for the top eighty nine, yes, eighty nine.

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Speaker 3: When you're talking about picking at the bottom of the

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Speaker 3: first round, I wouldn't give up one of those picks.

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Speaker 3: I'd look to give up the pick next year, then

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Speaker 3: this year. But I think they're going to get a

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Speaker 3: stay right where they are.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I like it. You know, get one of those guys.

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Speaker 1: I think that'll keep the draft party happy, which is

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Speaker 1: what I'm concerned about one week from tonight.

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Speaker 3: Just call this weird. Guys. Usually you take an offensive

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Speaker 3: Now fans are gonna cheer like crazy for an offensive

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Speaker 3: so much last year, and they know how good CJ.

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Speaker 3: Stroud can be if he gets time to throw. I

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Speaker 3: think they would be more inclined to boo another position

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Speaker 4: John, It was pretty interesting listening to Shawn had seth

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Speaker 4: the other day set their poll and he asked that

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Speaker 4: was I think it was like sixty five thirty five

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Speaker 4: in favor of fans wanting an offensive lineman versus that

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Speaker 4: sixty five percent in favor of drafting and offensive lineman.

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Speaker 4: And my fans, yeah, And I think that's really you know,

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Speaker 4: fans here pretty smart.

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Speaker 2: You know, they can they can go watch a game.

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Speaker 2: There's so many different ways to go watch a game.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: You can go watch and see what a guy looks

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Speaker 4: like and think, okay, man, I know all about that guy,

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Speaker 4: but you can look and see that guy could play

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I think fans are really informed.

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Speaker 4: I was on with with Landry and Stuts last night

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Speaker 4: for like two hours, and fans are like, man, I

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Speaker 4: like Ursery, No, I like really like Conlin No, I

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Speaker 2: I think this guy is the right fit.

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Speaker 2: An offensive lineman.

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Speaker 3: If they booed in twenty eleven and they didn't want

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Speaker 1: Yep, they will, and they should wait till Friday night

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Speaker 2: You just got to get it right.

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Speaker 1: You and Drew redrafted every draft right twenty eleven. That'll

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Speaker 1: be Friday night, all right, Friday night twenty eleven. Drew

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you came yeh Aldon Smith going to

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Speaker 3: Want to say Wade wanted well.

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Speaker 4: I was actually happy. I just didn't know how the

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Speaker 3: good thing, like say it. They needed a quarterback right now,

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Speaker 3: you know there's one quarterback and Camboard's generational talent. He's

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Speaker 3: the twenties. And I see all this debate. I saw

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Speaker 3: Mike Tannenbaum, former GM. This is why he's on ESPN.

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Speaker 3: He called let's see, he called Jackson Dart, Jalen Milroe,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, what does frontline mean? And also if

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Speaker 3: then they this is going to be a great quarterback

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Speaker 3: So it's very good that the Texans do not need

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Speaker 1: I remember in twenty eleven, I was thinking Nick Fairley,

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Speaker 1: When eleven came around and what was obviously on the board,

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Speaker 1: gonna be WAT. So when they took Wat, yeah, not

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Speaker 1: everybody booed, but there were some booing because.

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Speaker 2: You gotta have an outside passwords.

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Speaker 1: We could have had bad Gabbard, Yeah, you could have

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Speaker 2: Gabert was already gone to pick.

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Speaker 1: Before By the way, the big turnaround. That's what Wade

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Speaker 2: Obviously an outstanding.

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Speaker 3: Did in contact with him, and he's he can't coach

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Speaker 1: And he went to the championship game last year. So

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Speaker 1: obviously you know Wade Coach of the Year. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: Whatever Wade does, Wade does well. There's no question about that,

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Speaker 1: all right. So cam Ward, I saw this as a headline.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you're watching the hot take shows, but

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Speaker 2: Off in my office. That's dangerous.

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Speaker 1: I looked up and there was one of those captions,

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Speaker 1: pre draft Mahomes did drop to ten. Ward's gonna get

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Speaker 1: he's a little wild. He makes plays, but he's a

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Speaker 3: Maybe the air raid system which is not translaightable into

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Speaker 1: And then they were showing these Ward highlights. If you

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Speaker 1: up for that. But general, how good will cam Ward

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Speaker 3: I used to know a general manager. He wanted to

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Speaker 3: the bad throws, the bad decisions, not just the good ones.

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Speaker 3: You know, NFL Network and ESPN makes everybody look like

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Speaker 3: cam Ward, they've been going to take him now for

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Speaker 3: Night he thought about entering draft last year, told he

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Speaker 3: continued to improve every year he's been in football. He's

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Speaker 4: I won't take a victory lap on this, but I

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Speaker 2: Two, whoa like before you before you even played.

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Speaker 4: A game in Washington State, And I thought I was

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Speaker 4: Like I watched the game, I watched games of his

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Speaker 2: I was like, this guy's got something.

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Speaker 4: Then I remember talking to Casey Keeler, who was at

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Speaker 4: I mean, he didn't have any other starter as red

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Speaker 4: you go to Washington State, I think he's gonna show

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Speaker 2: But when he went to Miami, that's when it really exploded.

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm curious what he does in the NFL, But

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Speaker 4: But I get it stylistically, like there are some stylistic

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Speaker 2: I kind of see it. So we'll face him twice

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Speaker 4: You go, general, do you think Cleveland and New York

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Speaker 3: Well, if you look at both of those franchises, they

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Speaker 3: is definitely worth it. He's such a high, highly rated prospect.

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Speaker 3: If he went to the Giants and he was real good,

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Speaker 3: And the thing about Abdull Carter. They already have two

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Speaker 3: So they've already got three number ones in their defensive line.

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Speaker 3: And yes, you can't have too many. But Ashton Jenny,

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Speaker 3: I'm more concerned than he would end up in Jacksonville

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Speaker 2: No, I don't want Genty in Jacksonville.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm the jackson should.

439
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Speaker 4: If I'm the Magnificent Gladstone, I am absolutely considering that.

440
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,720
Speaker 4: In fact, I have I have genty going six to

441
00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:31,160
Speaker 4: the Raiders. I think it's where a lot of people do.

442
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,480
Speaker 4: I have Tyler Warren going to the Jacksonville jack Wars.

443
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 4: I don't get that either. I know I don't like

444
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,320
Speaker 4: it either, but I'm you know what, here's the thing.

445
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,160
Speaker 4: A lot of times in the draft, there's some common

446
00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 4: sense that leaves the building. But if you think comments

447
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:44,880
Speaker 4: this is way I look at it. There are three

448
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 4: lead players in this draft, Hunter, Carter, Genty. I think

449
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,920
Speaker 4: Warren is near elite, like he if that's your tier one,

450
00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 4: my tier two would be Warren, and then everybody else

451
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,120
Speaker 4: says tier three. There's a you know, there's a gap

452
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,479
Speaker 4: between two and three and there's everybody else. And so

453
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 4: I started thinking about him, like Jacksonville's got to take

454
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,480
Speaker 4: one of these near elite players, Like they can't just go, well,

455
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,120
Speaker 4: we gotta go drafted off. It's a tackle because that's

456
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 4: a need for us. If they do that, they're gonna

457
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:13,760
Speaker 4: be in trouble. And even Mason Graham, I think is

458
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 4: a really good player, but he's not one of those

459
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 4: elite guys. So I think there's definitely a chance that

460
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 4: Brown's Giants Patriots consider Jenty, and unfortunately, if one of

461
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 4: them considers a quarterback, that could push Abdul Carter or

462
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 4: Tyler Warren right to the Jacksonville Jaguars, where I don't

463
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Speaker 4: want them and I want to ask you this, guys,

464
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Speaker 4: because at least be the Jaguars. I looked online the

465
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 4: other day, there's a there's a on Twitter. There was

466
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 4: a graphic that popped up and it showed the thirty

467
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 4: visits for teams and the Jacksonville Jaguars just don't do

468
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,280
Speaker 4: thirty visits. And that's something that Gladstone said they did

469
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Speaker 4: in LA and they they would continue that with the Jaguars.

470
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Speaker 2: Why wouldn't you exactly? That's my point general, Why I

471
00:22:58,680 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 2: don't get it.

472
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Speaker 4: I don't know what you lose by bringing in players

473
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Speaker 4: to get a read on them, even if you get

474
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 4: to spend all day with them in dinner, at that point,

475
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 4: it's not just a fifteen minute combiny interview. Why do

476
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 4: you think they've kind of gone that direction with Gladstone

477
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 4: and Jaguars not having players on campus for a thirty visit.

478
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Speaker 3: It makes no sense because even if you have met

479
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Speaker 3: with players privately and talked to him, whether it's fifteen

480
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 3: minutes at the combine or after their pro day you

481
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 3: went to dinner, you still get to see him in

482
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:31,840
Speaker 3: your setting. I remember in twenty seventeen, Rick Smit, the

483
00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 3: general manager, one of the things that he had to

484
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: go to Dan Ruiney's funeral. But everybody reported back to

485
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 3: him that Deshaun Watson, when he was like in the cafeteria,

486
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,680
Speaker 3: how nice he was to everybody behind the counter, how

487
00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 3: the veteran players who had worked out at the stadium

488
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:52,640
Speaker 3: were there and they went up to him because they

489
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 3: saw he won the national championship. How he interacted with them.

490
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Speaker 3: And you can't see those things anywhere else. So because

491
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,360
Speaker 3: Sean McVay did it, and I hate that. I remember

492
00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:08,480
Speaker 3: when jackieastery took the numbers and the everything off the

493
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 3: rosters and it lasted one day because they got killed

494
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: for it. Turned out the Patriots had tried it, and

495
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 3: then the league had to get involved with that, you know,

496
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,080
Speaker 3: just because you did it like that somewhere else. I

497
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,400
Speaker 3: don't know how you could justify to your owner, shod Con,

498
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,960
Speaker 3: why we're not doing this, even if you said, we

499
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 3: don't want other teams know who we're bringing in here.

500
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 3: He may not draft any of those guys. It just

501
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,480
Speaker 3: makes no sense. But so much about the Jaguars has

502
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 3: not made since nineteen ninety was it ninety nine or

503
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: ninety six? One of those two years.

504
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Speaker 2: It was ninety nine. It was both those years six.

505
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Speaker 1: Ninety if they went to the AFC Championship, kip both

506
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 1: those years. All right, general, we look forward to next week.

507
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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for being with us tonight.

508
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: As always my pleasure, guys, Thank you very much.

509
00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 1: All right, right back into the flow here Texans ready

510
00:24:59,960 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: to Mark Vandermaer and John Harris with you in the

511
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: hun Day Texans Radio Studio and Johnny, we had Seth

512
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: Pain on last week. We aired this on Monday night,

513
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: the Seth Pain Interview. But what we didn't get to,

514
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: what we did not get to in that interview was

515
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: Seth talking about Opening Night and we saved this for

516
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: tonight throwback Thursday. This was really cool stuff. So I

517
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: was getting emotional talking about Opening Night.

518
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 2: Of team history. And we all know Seth.

519
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,600
Speaker 1: You listen to him every morning, you listen to him

520
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 1: on pregame shows, you listen to him all the time.

521
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,399
Speaker 1: You've known him as an original Texan. So he was there,

522
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 1: made one of the big plays of this game with

523
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: the sack on Quincy Carter late that sealed the deal,

524
00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: and he talks about that. Let's get right to it

525
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: before we discuss Seth Pain as we talked to him

526
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Speaker 1: about opening night of team history against the Dallas Cowboys.

527
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Speaker 5: I'd keep it in that same theme of man, this

528
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 5: is just big. And I had played in Jacksonville for

529
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 5: five years, but that's a different stadium, different city, different environment,

530
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 5: and I had just never been part of that much

531
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:21,919
Speaker 5: combined and focused energy from the fans down onto the field.

532
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 5: And there was that moment there at the end of

533
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 5: the game when we got the safety and ended up,

534
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 5: you know, stealing the game. It just I it was

535
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 5: almost like an out of body experience. I don't remember

536
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 5: anything about that place specifically because I was so tired,

537
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 5: and I just remember having the feeling of almost like

538
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 5: the energy permeating.

539
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,120
Speaker 2: My body because it was so loud, and I.

540
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 5: Was completely in that unconscious mode when you're tired and

541
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 5: you're just going on instinct and training and everything, and

542
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,720
Speaker 5: it just it felt like the energy is seeping into

543
00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 5: you and you're getting like almost pushed along by the

544
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 5: noise in the environment and everything. It was just it

545
00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 5: was it was one of the Honestly, it was one

546
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 5: of the most unique experiences in my life. It was

547
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 5: really it's one of the things. I'm fifty years old,

548
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,920
Speaker 5: I've been honest for it's fifty years, and I don't

549
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 5: I've never experienced anything like that and I never will again.

550
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 3: It was just amazing.

551
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,720
Speaker 2: I want to play that for the team.

552
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: Yah, the night before they host the AFC Championship game.

553
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean that. But the way you

554
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 2: just said that is so beautiful.

555
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: You know, I'm up in the booth that night and

556
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: I've I just called the national Championship game at the

557
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: University of Miami and the Rose Bowl. That was my

558
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 1: last football accounted that I called. And then the next

559
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: one is this and there's just nothing like it. There's

560
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: nothing like that night.

561
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: So that was beautiful.

562
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 5: It was really really cool, and it's cool that people

563
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 5: remember it, you know this many years later. It's really

564
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,360
Speaker 5: it's it's it's cool to be part of it. It's

565
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:53,320
Speaker 5: a very unique. It's one of those things where you're

566
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 5: outside of Houston you just wouldn't get it because, okay,

567
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,920
Speaker 5: what it's a regular season game and uh, what's what's

568
00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 5: it ultimately matter end of the year. It was just

569
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 5: it was very, very unique.

570
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,199
Speaker 2: It was really cool. All right.

571
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: That's Seth Payne and Johnny. I just love that because

572
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 1: and Seth joked with us after it was over. I

573
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: didn't think I was gonna get an estional today, but Jeseus,

574
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: I guess I just did.

575
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:13,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

576
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 1: The energy that he talks about like flowing through his

577
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: body coming down from the stands, giving him that will

578
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: extra drive making those plays what a unique experience. If

579
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,239
Speaker 1: you're not a Ustonian, you probably don't get it. I

580
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: love all that stuff, and I think this is something

581
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: that everybody needs to hear who's a Texans fan.

582
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 2: Yeah.

583
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 4: Absolutely, And I think whenever we play that team, there's

584
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 4: always that little extra, you know. And that's why when

585
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 4: we talked about, you know, the great plays at twenty

586
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 4: twenty four, That's why the Derek Barnett strip, sack, Jalen

587
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 4: Peatree forced fumble, Barnett return was such a big play

588
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 4: in my mind because it happens up there.

589
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 2: We finally beat them up there. We do it on

590
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 2: Monday night.

591
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 4: That's the kapper on that game, like they're not coming

592
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: back from this. And it was Barnett celebrating with all

593
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 4: his fans in the end zone. They're all doing it together.

594
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 4: It was just such a cool woman, and I remembered

595
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 4: finally take it all in.

596
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: Look at it and just like take it all in.

597
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 2: And I was like, goly, there's some redness building and

598
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 2: they're celebrating.

599
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 4: I can imagine what that was like in two thousand

600
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: and two, the first one to do it on Sunday

601
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 4: night and just against that team. And of course, you

602
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,959
Speaker 4: know Seth has talked before about the scrimmage that was before,

603
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 4: and then you saw the hard knocks and the Cowboys

604
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 4: are very dismissive and all that kind of stuff. So

605
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 4: there was so much going on, which made me think, though,

606
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 4: when you get to talking about the Texans or just

607
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 4: you know, your football life in general, is there a

608
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 4: game that you get emotional kind of like Seth about.

609
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 4: Is there one that you think about maybe that not

610
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 4: sets you off into tears, but that you get emotional

611
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 4: thinking come back and calling it.

612
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 2: I know what it is. I'm pretty sure, Ikne what

613
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 2: it is. Twenty eighteen.

614
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 1: In fact, I was talking to some ticketing people yesterday

615
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: because we do this, you know, senior members of the

616
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: organization talking to new members, and yeah, there are a

617
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: few new members of Inside Sales Ticketing, and they asked

618
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 1: me that question or a version of that question, and

619
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: I said, there's so many I mentioned twenty fifteen against

620
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 1: the Colts, beating them up there for the first time.

621
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 2: I've talked about that many times.

622
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: Twenty eighteen though, after mister McNair passed away on Friday,

623
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: and we're there Monday night and you could not script

624
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: it any better. Down ten to nothing, and then you know,

625
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: you make a stop at the goal line and it's

626
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: first down at the three, at your three and Lamar

627
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: Miller ninety seven yards and I just that moment and that.

628
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 2: Game packed so much emotion.

629
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 1: And it was in the midst of that twenty eighteen

630
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: season where you're winning nine in a row, and is

631
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: this the night that the streak is stopped? Can't be

632
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: because Bob McNair just died. You have to be able

633
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: to win that football game and everything to do with him.

634
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: So far as far as that game found day, which

635
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: we do, it's October sixth, because that celebrates the anniversary

636
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: October sixth, nineteen ninety nine when you were awarded the franchise.

637
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: But on Founder's Day, never lost, okay, And I mean,

638
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: that's just a beautiful thing. And obviously that day in

639
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, that night, that Monday night football game against

640
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: the former Oilers was so special, so that one always

641
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: stands out, but there's so many. I was thinking about

642
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: this because they were asking me, what are your favorite calls,

643
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: like calls that you've done, and I want to do

644
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: a show.

645
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 2: Maybe it's it's good for June.

646
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 3: Get out.

647
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, get that's my favorites. Three get Out. I forgot

648
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: about that one. Fritz came out that year, Johnny. That

649
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:47,719
Speaker 2: was loaded with emotion.

650
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: It was three very much loaded with emotion because because

651
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: think about this, you had the Tank Dell last second

652
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: touchdown against the Buccaneers and Andre going nuts with me

653
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: on that one, and then you had the I mean,

654
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:04,240
Speaker 1: you had others, but you had the field goal to

655
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: beat the former Oilers up there wearing the former Oiler

656
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 1: uniforms and Andre put thrun.

657
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: We had a lot of emotion that there was a lot.

658
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 4: I mean, how about the fact that we've followed up

659
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 4: Tampa Bay with Cincinnati back to back weeks. I'll tell

660
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: you this, though, to your point, there have been I

661
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,120
Speaker 4: mean a lot off seasons, a lot of time where

662
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 4: we've you know, talked about different topics and you know,

663
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 4: brought us back to that Monday night game. It's really

664
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 4: difficult to just think back to that night and everything

665
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: that went with that night without like starting to tear up, Like, man,

666
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 4: there's so there's so much, And obviously you're caught through

667
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 4: Lamar Miller's touchdown run. And I remember during a break,

668
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: I remember saying distinctly to you guys, because the week before,

669
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 4: do you remember what happened The week before was against

670
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,479
Speaker 4: Washington week justin he'd won one hundred and one yards

671
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 4: on an interception, and I remember saying during a break, dang, man,

672
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 4: I wish I wish we could add to Justin readin

673
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 4: interception here to go the rest of the way. Instead,

674
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: it ended up being fourth down stop ninety seven yard run, which,

675
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 4: in a sense I guess was probably a little bit

676
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: more romantic.

677
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: And the fact that it was that team and.

678
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: That guy who got run down from behind a few

679
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: times exactly too from his team page.

680
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 4: I mean, it was very very cool to have that

681
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 4: that moment he just turns on the gas and runs

682
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 4: away from Kenny Vacaro. But I the one other thing

683
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 4: I remember about that night, which makes it even more

684
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: emotional and sad, is that was the first game that

685
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 4: Damarius Thomas played here. Oh yeah, and he ends up

686
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 4: having two touchdowns in that game, and so I get

687
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 4: to interview him after the game.

688
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 2: It is the first time I get to meet Demarius

689
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: and just.

690
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 4: A super super guy, got a sweetheart of a man.

691
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 4: And to see him, you know, lose his life so early,

692
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,719
Speaker 4: it was just, I mean unbelievable, so emotional to think

693
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 4: about that particular. But that was right in the middle

694
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 4: of that run, you know, in twenty eighteen, it was

695
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 4: like we were fighting ways to win games. The Broncos

696
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: McManus pushes the kick right when they could have beat us.

697
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 4: All everything that happened there, you know, kind of through

698
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 4: that run, starting with the game against a cult But

699
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 4: that's you're right, that's the one that I think about,

700
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 4: and whenever I hear your call after Lamar scores, I'm

701
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 4: just like, I'm a blubbering mess. So I wasn't here

702
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:30,240
Speaker 4: for the opener against the Cowboys, but I know twenty

703
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 4: eighteen we beat the Cowboys.

704
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 2: That was pretty special. It was so special.

705
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 4: From that that perspective, you know, hop spins, you know

706
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 4: that the just kept spinning and spinning and spinning. I

707
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 4: was like, this is awesome, you know, being him up

708
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 4: there at twenty four up at their place. We'd never

709
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 4: done that before, you know, knocking them off was you know,

710
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 4: and doing it the way that we did, blowout fashion,

711
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: blowout fashion, defense, making statements.

712
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: Look, could have had him in twenty two also could

713
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: have what should have that game?

714
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 2: Could it?

715
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 1: What should have been twenty fourteen? Yeah, it is special

716
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: to beat them. It's funny because I was just talking

717
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: to somebody in marketing about certain stores that have Cowboy

718
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 1: gear for sale in the Houston area along with Texans gear,

719
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: because amongst us, I get it, no corporate buyers. It's like,

720
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: and I think some of it is sent from the

721
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: national office and they're like, oh Texas, they want the

722
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: Cowboys in Texas. No, we don't. We don't want the

723
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys stuff. Get rid of it. We're Texans here in Houston.

724
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: Let's go each town. That's what we want. I don't know,

725
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: I got a lot to say.

726
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 2: No, I'd get you.

727
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 4: I mean, this last weekend, we had somebody that was

728
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 4: staying in the house across from us and they had

729
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 4: a wheel cover it said Dallas Cowboys.

730
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 2: I had to keep looking at it all weekend.

731
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 4: Too expensive, I wanted your right, eggs are too expensive,

732
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 4: But I thought about throwing some peeps, and I didn't

733
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,719
Speaker 4: know how much that would accomplish, so I just kind

734
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: of stared at it and made bad faces and said

735
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 4: bad words and they then they left and all was good.

736
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 2: But it's becoming almost sad for them though.

737
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 1: It is because look, I am in the minority of

738
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 1: saying and I'm I'm not saying that Brian Schottenhammer things

739
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: going to work for them, but I'm if I was

740
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan, you have no choice. But they'll let

741
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: it play out. But you know, they've tried a lot

742
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 1: of different things. If you're not going to hire a

743
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: big name guy with a proven track record, you know,

744
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 1: like Pete Carroll would have been good in Dallas, I think, wow,

745
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, right, that would have been pretty good. Interesting

746
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: because pe would have said, yeah, you go ahead, get

747
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 1: the players, Jerry, you know, I'll have something put but

748
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead. And maybe Pete behind the scenes is

749
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: very very directive on what he wants. Who knows, but

750
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,720
Speaker 1: that is a coach of the proven track record instead

751
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: of go with Brian Schottenhammer. Maybe he's a great delegator,

752
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: Maybe he's gonna get it all done. Who knows. Another thing,

753
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 1: things that are getting me fired up. Next week is

754
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: off season conditioning, the start of the nine week program

755
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: starting one.

756
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: And the players we've been mentioning this a lot.

757
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: They've been in the building, a lot of guys, a

758
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: lot three dozen guys or so regularly in the building.

759
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:52,760
Speaker 2: And I saw Z's today.

760
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, for a longer time than maybe I should have been.

761
00:36:57,520 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't holding them up. But we're just talking.

762
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: But a lot of it.

763
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: He's just such a great conversationalist. You know, he's like,

764
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: what are you up to? Oh, you're coaching kids? Your kid?

765
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: Tell me?

766
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: You know, he wants to know things. He Johnny, He's incredible.

767
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: It's just an incredible human. As he's al Shire. We

768
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: all know this. I just love having him on this

769
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: football team. I've said it so many times. I've said

770
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: it before that I don't want him ever leaving this building.

771
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: Give him a lifetime contract. You know that doesn't always

772
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: go according to my plan, because I kind of felt

773
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: similarly about Case Keenum.

774
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,760
Speaker 2: Don't let him leave the building. He goes to Chicago.

775
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: But you know what, I can't fault Case for wanting

776
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,359
Speaker 1: one more chance to be a player, right and if

777
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: he feels like he could be a player up there.

778
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 1: He's not gonna start with Caleb Williams there, but who knows,

779
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: if there's an injury, he might start right. They might

780
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: have a situation like we had a couple of years ago,

781
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 1: and maybe he's the guy and he gonna have an

782
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 1: input on Caleb Williams's career, some influence there.

783
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 2: But maybe Case makes his way back at some point.

784
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna, you know, discount possibility, but I'd love

785
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 1: to see his ease here for ever.

786
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: Saw Pe Tree. A bunch of the guys, they're getting ready.

787
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 2: They know that.

788
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: It's funny because we used to say you got to

789
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: hit training camp in shape. You better be in shape

790
00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: for training camp because you can't get in shape during

791
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: training camp. Now it's you better hit off season conditioning

792
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: in shape because you don't want to be out of shape.

793
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: When they start off season conditioning, they will wear you

794
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 1: out because that's their job. So you want to hit

795
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: this next week in shape. And not only that, I

796
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 1: think there are a couple of other things that go with it.

797
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,319
Speaker 1: You just get the sense that these guys like being

798
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,880
Speaker 1: around one another. Yeah, and it's look, it's not going

799
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: to be ninety guys across the board and love each

800
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 1: other at all times.

801
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: Like it's just that's not human like behavior. It doesn't,

802
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: But you.

803
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: Get the feeling that these guys do like being around

804
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 4: each other, they do like being around the strength conditioning staff,

805
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 4: they do like being around the coaches and such, and I.

806
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 2: I think that's that's awesome.

807
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 4: That's that's that's a team that wants to do more

808
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 4: than just get to the divisional playoff round. That's a

809
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 4: team that wants and knows that you to have a

810
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 4: level of chemistry to be able to in the fourth quarter. Like, man,

811
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 4: I'm not giving them, Like I got CJ. And I

812
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 4: got Nico over there on the sidelines watching us, and

813
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 4: we got to come up with one stop. I'm coming

814
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 4: up with that one stop because I want us all

815
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 4: to experience that.

816
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: So I love that aspect of it.

817
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 4: Really curious to see, you know, how many guys are

818
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: here during the conditioning period, which again is voluntary. OTAs

819
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:30,760
Speaker 4: are voluntary mini camp that's the required one for everybody

820
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 4: to be here. But I feel like I've seen so

821
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:37,240
Speaker 4: many guys in the building already before conditioning even starts

822
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,359
Speaker 4: next week. So I'm curious to see what they are

823
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 4: able to bring in during condition. But either way, just

824
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 4: the way that they have done this. And that goes

825
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 4: back to kind of what I said yesterday and when

826
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:48,200
Speaker 4: we were talking about what Nick had to say, like

827
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 4: there's a different standard that applies here. Yeah, and I

828
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: remember hearing this about the Eagles. There was a guy

829
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 4: that was traded to the Eagles. I can't remember who

830
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,680
Speaker 4: was this guys traded the Eagles if it's a lineman

831
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 4: And we walked in, Fletcher Cox kind of grabbed him

832
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 4: and said, we don't do that bleep here. Oh yeah,

833
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: there's a certain way that we do things here in Philadelphia,

834
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,319
Speaker 4: So get in line or get lost. And I mean

835
00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 4: he said it in a more positive manner, especially when

836
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 4: a player can say it, not a coach.

837
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 2: That's right.

838
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 4: And when it comes from a player and you hear it,

839
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 4: you're like, okay, I got it understood. And you know,

840
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 4: a player like Fletcher Cox, I obviously had some gravitas.

841
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 4: But you know here you probably hear it or see

842
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 4: it from some younger guys. But you're gonna you're gonna

843
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 4: mess with Nico Collins, Derek Stingley junior. Hell no, But

844
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,319
Speaker 4: you know, I think that. That part of it to

845
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 4: me is it's cool when you see these guys around

846
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 4: a building, but you know, we've been here.

847
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 2: We've been here. Yeah, I've been here since twenty fifteen.

848
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: I've been in a building.

849
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 4: We've seen so many times where we went periods and

850
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 4: stretches without seeing guys like there would be some that

851
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: were rehabbing, but you know, and look, it's good to

852
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 4: get away. Like I talked to X one day. I

853
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 4: saw him, I think probably a couple of weeks ago.

854
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 4: He got away for a couple of quick and then

855
00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 4: he got back here. He's like, man, I gotta be ready.

856
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 4: I gotta be ready for conditioning. And I was just like, yeah,

857
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 4: you know, you you come in for you come in

858
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,839
Speaker 4: for conditioning and you haven't been.

859
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: You're gonna be in. You're gonna be in a world

860
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: of hurt.

861
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 4: When it was the strength and conditioning staff is gonna

862
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:15,719
Speaker 4: push them.

863
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: I wonder what they're gonna do with eighteen games and

864
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: maybe it's just a couple of weeks shaving off of

865
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: off season. Conditioning gets seven weeks instead of nine. I

866
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:24,440
Speaker 1: think that'd be okay.

867
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 2: You know, it'll be interesting to see how they handle

868
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 2: training when do you think we go to eighteen games?

869
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 1: Uh, after twenty six because I think that's when the

870
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,080
Speaker 1: opt out is on the TV team contract. So they'll say, listen,

871
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,719
Speaker 1: let's redo these you guys want this stuff. You got

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Speaker 1: an extra game, you want this entertainment, You're gonna word

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00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: to you exactly, pay up and we'll give you an

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Speaker 1: eighteenth game. And the players get more. Everybody gets more money.

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Speaker 1: Everybody gets more. But I know it's more work and

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Speaker 1: that's tough for them. All right, Coming up the weekly

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Speaker 1: flag Football Report and some other kidbits from around the

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Speaker 1: NFL and college football. No historic broadcast note coming up

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Speaker 1: next on Texans Radio. Final Lap around the Track tonight

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio, and some notes after. We talk about

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Speaker 1: flag football a bit because, as we mentioned last week,

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Speaker 1: girls flag football heavy emphasis in the state to get

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Speaker 1: this a sanctioned UIL sport in our beloved lone star state,

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Speaker 1: Well in Austin, the Texans are making strides too round

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Speaker 1: Rock High School coach Ashley Castro. I caught up with

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Speaker 1: her and found out more about her inaugural program, a

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Speaker 1: pilot program to get girls flag football going.

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Speaker 2: How did she get involved?

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Speaker 6: Well, I've always let my admin know here, I'm already

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Speaker 6: a coach at Round Rock Eye coach basketball and softball,

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Speaker 6: and so I myself played flag football, and I've kind

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Speaker 6: of shared with my colleagues that I was interested in

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Speaker 6: getting this going for our school district, and so went

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Speaker 6: to a couple of coaches conferences, saw that it was

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Speaker 6: going to start happening about two years ago. As when

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Speaker 6: I started hearing that, you know, there was rumors at

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Speaker 6: NFL teams wanted to be a part of bringing girls

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Speaker 6: flag football to the forefront, and so just kind of

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Speaker 6: keeping in contact with the Texans and letting them know

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Speaker 6: that we as a central Texas area were interested. And

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Speaker 6: you know, early in February, we got the call from

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Speaker 6: the Houston Texans that you know, they wanted to start

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Speaker 6: a pilot program in central Austin area, and we were

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Speaker 6: one of the first schools that they had contacted. And

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Speaker 6: so our athletic head coach, our athletic administrator coach, Cody

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Speaker 6: Moore reached out kind of let us know who was

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Speaker 6: interested in taking this on. And I was one of

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Speaker 6: the first to raise my hands and I was like, man,

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Speaker 6: I've been asking for this, let's go, Let's get it going,

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Speaker 6: and so I've been designated to get that going and

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Speaker 6: get it started up for around our high school.

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Speaker 1: So, Ashley, what's the first thing you do? You have tryouts?

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Speaker 1: People are interested? How did that all go down? Tell

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Speaker 1: us about that.

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Speaker 6: Well, you know, with the social media, right, the amount

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Speaker 6: of people that it can reach in a short amount

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Speaker 6: of time, I think that was the most important thing.

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Speaker 6: So I immediately got on Instagram, started a Instagram for

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Speaker 6: around our high school girls Flack football, try to promote,

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Speaker 6: try to get the word out there. And the amount

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Speaker 6: of followers, questions, emails I received and just one or

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Speaker 6: two days was really mind blowing, and I was really

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Speaker 6: really happy to see that there were so many girls interested.

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Speaker 6: So got that going, started getting a parent meeting scheduled,

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Speaker 6: kind of get girls that were involved and that we're

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Speaker 6: interested to come and hear what the program was going

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Speaker 6: to be about. We had over forty five girls and

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Speaker 6: their families come out to our first parent meeting back

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Speaker 6: in February, and then shortly after that we've had tryouts.

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Speaker 6: I had about thirty or so kids come and try out,

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Speaker 6: and you know, we're kind of limited on the amount

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Speaker 6: of girls that we could have. At the very beginning

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Speaker 6: so having to tell girls that were interested, hey, not

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Speaker 6: right now, but come back next year was really hard

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Speaker 6: for me. But I hope the program just continues to

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Speaker 6: grow and grow and grow and that we're able to have,

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Speaker 6: you know, like a junior varsity varsity team in the future.

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Speaker 6: But obviously word of mouth is important, word of mouth,

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Speaker 6: social media. We also sent like a dragon blast, what

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Speaker 6: we call parent emails to everyone in our school. And

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Speaker 6: if you don't know anything about around our high school,

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Speaker 6: we have over thirty nine hundred kids, So that was

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Speaker 6: a big widespread email sent out there. And yeah, I

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Speaker 6: just got the word out and so I was really

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Speaker 6: really surprised with the outcome that we had, and it

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Speaker 6: goes to show that girls flag football is here and

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Speaker 6: people are ready for it.

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Speaker 1: Ashlely, as somebody who has played different sports and coached

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Speaker 1: multiple sports, what do you make of all this? Because

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Speaker 1: this can be and will be at some point a

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Speaker 1: sanctioned high school sport. You see more universities picking it up.

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Speaker 1: That's got to be exciting as you look at it

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Speaker 1: from a thirty thousand foot perspective.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, you know, for me, I'm just happy to

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Speaker 6: be a part of it. When we talk about girls

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Speaker 6: flag football inaugural season, whether it be pilot or not. Right,

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Speaker 6: it's just fun to be able to get girls to

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Speaker 6: compete in flag football. And I think the most important

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Speaker 6: thing for me is this allows girls more opportunities in college,

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Speaker 6: right to get scholarships to go and get their college

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Speaker 6: paid for. And I'm just super super excited that they

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Speaker 6: have that opportunity now. And I said this in one

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Speaker 6: of my interviews earlier, but it's no longer. For so

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Speaker 6: long we wanted it to be a movement, right like,

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Speaker 6: let's get this going, let's get the ball rolling, And

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Speaker 6: it's no longer a movement anymore. Like it's here, and

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Speaker 6: I think it's important that these girls, their parents and

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Speaker 6: communities that support them come together and show you, I

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Speaker 6: l and show those that we are ready for it

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Speaker 6: to be a sport and we are ready to be

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Speaker 6: competitive in that sense. And if they're doing it in college,

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Speaker 6: why not in high school?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: So again, I'm just happy to be a part of it.

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Speaker 6: It's fun, it's exciting, and I'm ready to get the

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Speaker 6: ball rolling with these girls for sure.

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Speaker 2: Coach, thanks a lot for joining us, good luck.

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Speaker 6: I appreciate it, Thank you so much, and Thank you

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Speaker 6: again to the Houston Texans for their support. We really

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Speaker 6: appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: There's Ashley Castro, our coach of the Week for Girls

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Speaker 1: Flag Football Houston Texans, a big supporter of girls flag football.

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Speaker 1: Leek Corso, big supporter of college football. His final broadcast

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Speaker 1: will be Labor Day weekend. How you and I are

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Speaker 1: going to hit on this tomorrow. Historic achievements in the

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Speaker 1: world of broadcasting as it relates to college football, There's

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Speaker 1: no question about that. I remember when he coached in

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Speaker 1: the USFL for the Orlando Renegades. I go back that far.

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Speaker 1: We'll have a full show for you tomorrow within the

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Speaker 1: Lab and some other stuff. Draft next week, of course,

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Speaker 1: one week from tonight. It's on Area forty five coming

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Speaker 1: up next. Have a great night, Go Texans.