Speaker 1: Hey guys. On this week of the Group Chat, we
Speaker 1: got scared, we got spooked. It was a very scary
Speaker 1: way to come into Halloween Week. But we've got to
Speaker 1: recap it. So we're talking and some of the words
Speaker 1: used in the Panther's locker room after that game Ultimate meltdown,
Speaker 1: played our worst and that's what you get. But this
Speaker 1: is the NFL and you move on. So we are
Speaker 1: dressing up the Panthers and whatever costume we think it
Speaker 1: takes to get a win this week against the Titans.
Speaker 1: But when they get the ball, Curtis and DJ need
Speaker 1: to go into that phone booth in London that we
Speaker 1: went in and they need to come out with their
Speaker 1: Superman on and then stick around because we are going
Speaker 1: to give you our best Halloween hot takes. We've got
Speaker 1: that in so much more. On this week's the Group Chat.
Speaker 1: You've been added to the group Chat with your friends Caroline, can,
Speaker 1: Max Sensen and Will Brian. Spooky week. What's up everyone?
Speaker 1: It's Halloween week? How do we feel about this week?
Speaker 1: Like it's like a holiday, but it's not. It's not
Speaker 1: a holiday. Are you coming in dressed up? Wait? First, all,
Speaker 1: that's a like piping hot Halloween hot take right off
Speaker 1: at that point. We're not to that point. We are
Speaker 1: doing Halloween hot takes later, but I started being hot.
Speaker 1: Not a holiday I started early. It's not a holiday
Speaker 1: that like you're going to get off of school, like Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: I think like Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Year's Day. Like I
Speaker 1: would even go to say that Valentine's Day is not holiday.
Speaker 1: This is you know, like and it goes along those
Speaker 1: same lines. But if you disagree, just hang on because
Speaker 1: I've got more coming later on. Yeah, and I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm rattled. Yeah, this is gonna be hard to get
Speaker 1: through all the rest of this. A lot of people's
Speaker 1: favorite holiday. Yeah, people get really into Valentine's There's so
Speaker 1: many parties. Yeah, most people agree Valentine's Day. It's kind
Speaker 1: of like a Hallmark holiday. It's kind of like, this
Speaker 1: is kind of ridiculous. But Halloween, Barcrols. I'm all for
Speaker 1: celebrating Halloween. I think it is. It is fun when
Speaker 1: when you commit to it. Really getting ahead here, but
Speaker 1: when you commit to Halloween, it can be a very
Speaker 1: fun holiday. But it is not something that I believe
Speaker 1: is a real holiday. Alright, more to come on now
Speaker 1: more to come on that. But what we're really talking
Speaker 1: about is the welcome to the Halloween week that the
Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers just got this year. How fitting the fact
Speaker 1: that they went out to San Francisco really Santa Clara,
Speaker 1: It's not really San Francisco, but we went there. Um
Speaker 1: and we came back and I'm dressing it all black
Speaker 1: appropriately today because that was horrifying. Yeah, a very on theme. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: about all that I said last week about like the Niners,
Speaker 1: maybe this being a good time to get them. They
Speaker 1: had that brain game against Washington Panthers coming off to
Speaker 1: buy Yeah, I mean that was a he were some
Speaker 1: of the words used in the Panther's locker room after
Speaker 1: that game ultimate meltdown, played our worst and that's what
Speaker 1: you get. Um, you know, failed the test, complete let down.
Speaker 1: I mean, so those were we don't really even need
Speaker 1: to pile on. I mean that kind of tells you
Speaker 1: the story of the game. So does the score. I
Speaker 1: mean thirteen. It's one of the worst losses by a
Speaker 1: margin of defeat in team history. Um. The scary thing
Speaker 1: I will say about this first off is the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: They look really good. I came away as poorly as
Speaker 1: Carolina played. I came away extremely impressed with San Francisco.
Speaker 1: We knew their defense was going to be outstanding. It's
Speaker 1: been outstanding all year. We knew it was gonna be
Speaker 1: tough on Kyle and that offense to move the ball consistently.
Speaker 1: But the Niners offense, without really having to stretch the
Speaker 1: field vertically, still was able to carve up yards in
Speaker 1: the run game. And that's been something they've been able
Speaker 1: to lean on all year and teams haven't been able
Speaker 1: to stop it. I mean, their run game has just
Speaker 1: consistently been there. And I thought Kyle Shanahan just called
Speaker 1: a masterful game. I mean he had Carolina completely off balanced, screens, misdirection,
Speaker 1: a little bit of everything. Um. And so I walked
Speaker 1: out of that same stadium. I walked into it being like,
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that the four Niners are this good.
Speaker 1: I walked out saying I was very wrong. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was really. I think the most impressive part was the
Speaker 1: confusion of the Panthers defense. This is a defense that
Speaker 1: is in the top five overall in the league, and
Speaker 1: they looked confused and being on the sidelines and being
Speaker 1: down there. I mean, and you mentioned Kyle Shanahan and
Speaker 1: his staff came up with the the blueprint of how
Speaker 1: to beat the Carolina Panthers, and the team executed it perfectly.
Speaker 1: I think that was just it was such good football
Speaker 1: by the forty Niners that you tuned in a little
Speaker 1: bit for that reason. And I think last week, like
Speaker 1: you're saying all that that we said about this could
Speaker 1: be the week, you know, good time to get the
Speaker 1: boarding Niners. I don't think that often that like I
Speaker 1: drink the kool Aid of like, al right, like this
Speaker 1: team we can beat anybody, like I think I have
Speaker 1: normally I drink the kool aid. Last you were pretty kind.
Speaker 1: I was drinking the kool aid up until George Kittle
Speaker 1: the little tipped ball thing, the spooky thing. Where so
Speaker 1: is that when it seemed like a lot of fans
Speaker 1: immediately were like, well, it's gonna be that kind of game.
Speaker 1: Immediately when that play happened, did you kind of play
Speaker 1: the game? And I was like, well, if they're going
Speaker 1: to catch passes off a tip pass and that's just
Speaker 1: this is just I was gonna go, well, I think
Speaker 1: what had happened in weeks previously is that the Panthers defense,
Speaker 1: they came up with that ball like that was you know,
Speaker 1: the takeaways were all over the place. You you got
Speaker 1: those big momentum shift type plays that fell in the
Speaker 1: way of the Panthers. I think it was just for
Speaker 1: the first time in four weeks where a play didn't
Speaker 1: go your way. And I mean on defense, I think offensively,
Speaker 1: like there's some stumbling blocks that they had, I mean
Speaker 1: the fumbles and all of that in those first two
Speaker 1: weeks with Kyle starting, but then you didn't really see
Speaker 1: that and that that was it was a it was
Speaker 1: a it was a bad omen early because yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean that's its potentially a huge play to intercept that
Speaker 1: ball set up a short field. Of course, San Francisco
Speaker 1: goes right down in scores, but throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the game, I mean early on Luke has that interception
Speaker 1: and they're right back in it with that response, and
Speaker 1: then even later on they get the Bruce Servant safety,
Speaker 1: Christian scores two point conversion. All of a sudden, this
Speaker 1: is a you know, a game that's within reach, and
Speaker 1: I think it just showed that throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the game, the Niners had exerted kind of their their
Speaker 1: dominance when Carolina got close ish there, then I just
Speaker 1: came right back down and scored. Yeah, I mean it
Speaker 1: plays a place seventy five yards four minute drive and
Speaker 1: then the debo twenty yard run. I mean that was
Speaker 1: that was the backbreaker for me. So I I felt
Speaker 1: personally like, sure we could sit here and and say, oh,
Speaker 1: if this play goes differently here, if this one goes
Speaker 1: differently there. The reality of it, I think is San
Speaker 1: Francisco when truly tested, and it wasn't often in that
Speaker 1: game when Carolina really came close that once, after McCaffrey's score,
Speaker 1: they were able to say enough of this and they
Speaker 1: put it over. I mean, I think you get a
Speaker 1: three and out there and all of a sudden you
Speaker 1: get the ball back. I mean you know they were there,
Speaker 1: They were able to get decent film position at times.
Speaker 1: You get the ball back down fourteen middle of the
Speaker 1: third quarter, and you know Christian is starting to find holes.
Speaker 1: You get some momentum. I mean, I mean they completely
Speaker 1: responded on that drive. And then after that then it
Speaker 1: was more pressure on Kyle than it was. You know,
Speaker 1: the defense couldn't get another stop. I mean it was
Speaker 1: that was and and you said, look Christian was finding
Speaker 1: running room. I think that was one of the more
Speaker 1: disappointing things about this. I mean, the Panthers averaged let's see,
Speaker 1: six point eight yards per rush. I mean, they were
Speaker 1: able to run the ball effectually. They just couldn't do
Speaker 1: it because the score indicated the fact. You know, they
Speaker 1: just they just didn't They they had to pass the
Speaker 1: football they were down so big. But if they were
Speaker 1: able to have kept that within striking distance, you had
Speaker 1: got the feeling that, hey, I mean they were able
Speaker 1: to have success in the ground, they just couldn't go
Speaker 1: to it. And obviously the Niners were able to kind
Speaker 1: of dictate the terms from start to finish. And one
Speaker 1: of the things the Niners they didn't get into third downs.
Speaker 1: I think they only had like two or three third
Speaker 1: down attempts in the first three quarters. I mean it
Speaker 1: wasn't until the fourth when then you know, you kind
Speaker 1: of put in the backups and all that. But I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't even have to. Yeah, I mean it talked
Speaker 1: to Luke about that after the game, and it was like,
Speaker 1: the Niners can get four or five six yards on
Speaker 1: the ground on first down whenever they wanted to, and
Speaker 1: when a team can do that. Then on second and four,
Speaker 1: it's wide open. The playbook is is all there for Shannon,
Speaker 1: and he can go screen, he can take a shot,
Speaker 1: they can hand it off again, and as a defense,
Speaker 1: you're just completely on your heels. And that was the
Speaker 1: way it seemed really for all four quarters. Was was
Speaker 1: Carolina not able to win on first down defensively, and
Speaker 1: when you do that against that team, it's trouble. And
Speaker 1: that's what we saw well, I think too, what was
Speaker 1: impressive about the forty Niners was the blueprint of how
Speaker 1: they would like to win is exactly what they got
Speaker 1: to do on Sunday. So, you know mentioning, I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're getting over six yards per carry and all of
Speaker 1: those things, but I just don't the Pathers couldn't do
Speaker 1: that because they got off to an early start, they
Speaker 1: were able to let their pass rush tea up and
Speaker 1: do whatever they wanted like it was a It really
Speaker 1: was such an impressive performance by the forty Niners. You
Speaker 1: just hate the fact that the Panthers were the ones
Speaker 1: playing them. So that was the welcome to Halloween Week
Speaker 1: that the Carolina Panthers and us here at the group
Speaker 1: chat were handed So that's where we are. But since
Speaker 1: it is Halloween weekend, let's dress our Carolina Panthers up.
Speaker 1: So what do different parts of this Carolina Panthers team
Speaker 1: need to dress up as for Halloween this weekend against
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans to walk away with a win. Actually
Speaker 1: want to go first first? Okay for me, the entire
Speaker 1: team should go as the men in Black. And here's
Speaker 1: why we'll correct me if I'm wrong. I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna wear black jersey's again. Right, Um? Pretty sure? Which
Speaker 1: which works? That's it is competent? Pretty sure? Two men
Speaker 1: in black, Like their whole objective is kind of like
Speaker 1: take care of these like alien creatures. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of like scary monsters. It works for kind of what
Speaker 1: we're saying about what happened last week. What the Tennessee
Speaker 1: Titans are right now? They're kind of aliens. We're not
Speaker 1: really sure anymore. Like, who what is this this weird
Speaker 1: life form that's coming to Bank America's stadium? Ryan's Tannehill
Speaker 1: is quarterback in this team, not America's Mariota. What's happening here? Um?
Speaker 1: But here's the main reason why the Men in Black
Speaker 1: have this device where you hold it up and they
Speaker 1: hit that button and it erases your memory. Panthers need
Speaker 1: to erase the memory of what happened in Santa Clara.
Speaker 1: Just completely forget about it. It happened. It was a loss,
Speaker 1: a really bad loss of that. But I think it's
Speaker 1: just one of those where, sure, you gotta watch the tape,
Speaker 1: you gotta learn some lessons from it and all that.
Speaker 1: I think it's it's one of those where let's just
Speaker 1: let's just burn it and just forget it. Let's forget
Speaker 1: it happened and move on to Tennessee. Just be Tennessee.
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter if you beat Tennessee six or three. Just
Speaker 1: beat the Titans and get this thing back on track.
Speaker 1: So that's my why go First, we should have known
Speaker 1: he always came up with this. You asked me this
Speaker 1: in the elevator. I came and like I had not
Speaker 1: thought a second about that. That was I'm a little
Speaker 1: proud of myself for this one, too. Was under the
Speaker 1: gun walking into the studio to come up with this.
Speaker 1: I know I can't compete. I don't know. I think, okay,
Speaker 1: so I have too that I think are kind of funny. So,
Speaker 1: first off, we saw that the run defense, they were
Speaker 1: exposed and this has been a problem for the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Has been kind of the kryptonite of
Speaker 1: the Panthers defense, and it was just fully exposed when
Speaker 1: they went and played the forty Niners. So I have
Speaker 1: lived in apartments my entire life. I'm not a homeowner.
Speaker 1: I have not had to do this on my own.
Speaker 1: But when you move out of an apartment, you're told
Speaker 1: by your apartment complex, Okay, if the you know whole
Speaker 1: in the wall are bigger than a quarter, than you're
Speaker 1: going to be charged for them. Well, look, I'm not
Speaker 1: a handyman. I've hung many of shelves that have fallen
Speaker 1: off the wall and put like dollar size holes into
Speaker 1: my into my wall soar like like silver silver dollar rectangles. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was baking around and silver dollar silver dollar. But
Speaker 1: then you have to come and you have to put
Speaker 1: grout in it or you're going to get charged. I
Speaker 1: would love for this Carolina Panthers defense to be like
Speaker 1: apartment maintenance men and they're just walking around filling all
Speaker 1: the holes in the apartment complex. And you're walking around
Speaker 1: with your grout and you got your little you know
Speaker 1: hat on, you got your little scraper tool and you're
Speaker 1: walking around just plugging all the holes in all of
Speaker 1: the apartment complex. Please do that with these Tennessee Titans,
Speaker 1: because they're coming in with a lot of question marks,
Speaker 1: but they still have you know, running back there, I
Speaker 1: got a questionable, like what's going on at this quarterback thing?
Speaker 1: Just just just be a little apartment maintenance man. So
Speaker 1: I want to be able to call put my main
Speaker 1: answer quest in and come in and fix my house.
Speaker 1: Would that cost and be like one of the guys
Speaker 1: from the village people, Yes, exactly. Just picture that Bob
Speaker 1: the builder want, Jerald McCoy and Bruce Arvan and all
Speaker 1: those boys, just you know, in a little hardts My
Speaker 1: second one that I think is even better than that.
Speaker 1: And some of you are like, thank god, because I
Speaker 1: was all Kyle Allen, I did get an assist on
Speaker 1: this one. Oh good play on words to thank you.
Speaker 1: Kyle Allen needs to dress up as Steve Nash. Why
Speaker 1: because he just needs to pass the ball. He just
Speaker 1: needs to get it to the playmakers. He needs to
Speaker 1: just pass it off to Curtis Samuel, pass it off
Speaker 1: to CMC, pass it off to you know, Greg Olsen,
Speaker 1: get it to your playmakers and let them make the play,
Speaker 1: because what we heard from this last week is he
Speaker 1: was trying to do too much. His clock was going
Speaker 1: too fast, he wasn't able to really get in his rhythm.
Speaker 1: Just like, be who you are, Kyle. I want you
Speaker 1: to be Steve Nash. You can wear a thirteen you know,
Speaker 1: Sun's jersey from Arizona. It just fits with do you
Speaker 1: walk around like you're the assist man. And that's what
Speaker 1: I want from Kyle Allen. I like that one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what And that's what Ron said, And he mentioned
Speaker 1: like there was a lot of deep shots that were
Speaker 1: kind of just hopeful passes, and it seemed like Kyle
Speaker 1: just kind of it just kind of got away from
Speaker 1: him where he was feeling the rush and he wanted
Speaker 1: so badly just to get a big chunk play and
Speaker 1: this happens um But he's at his best when he
Speaker 1: stays within himself. And to your point, Caroline's just getting
Speaker 1: the ball out of his hands quickly and letting those
Speaker 1: guys do the rest. And I think that will be
Speaker 1: the formula for success against the Titans for sure. It
Speaker 1: I can't follow that up, but did you like that one? Too.
Speaker 1: That was pretty good, all right, So, I mean I
Speaker 1: was kind of building off of that. Obviously, Kyle needs
Speaker 1: to be Steve Nash. But when they get the ball,
Speaker 1: Curtis and DJ need to go into that phone booth
Speaker 1: in London that we went in and they need to
Speaker 1: come out with their Superman on. They need to they
Speaker 1: need to take off their their Clark Kent's and become
Speaker 1: Superman because we need some plays from someone other than Christian. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean I always gonna say that we're reaching the
Speaker 1: midway point this season, are you guys? Has it been
Speaker 1: a little disappointing what we've seen from DJ and Curtis,
Speaker 1: you know, outside of like a couple of plays in
Speaker 1: London from Curtis and outside of you know, that that
Speaker 1: big catch and run in Arizona, Like we haven't really
Speaker 1: seen DJ kind of b DJ. Yeah. I mean we've
Speaker 1: seen it's like DJ on the Slants consistently, right, and
Speaker 1: that's kind of been there for them. Curtis, it just
Speaker 1: seems like they want so badly to get him involved
Speaker 1: with explosive plays, but it's been it's been hard to
Speaker 1: do consistently. I mean they targeted him eleven times and
Speaker 1: only had four connections. Their inability to connect on these
Speaker 1: plays that are designed for Curtis has been a little
Speaker 1: troubling because we know what those two can do for
Speaker 1: this team when they are making plays, and that just
Speaker 1: it hasn't always been there. And I know we all
Speaker 1: came into the season thinking DJ and Curtis this is
Speaker 1: these guys are gonna be fun to watch, and here
Speaker 1: we are the midway point, we're still kind of waiting
Speaker 1: for those guys to really kind of get into a group.
Speaker 1: I think I got to thinking about this on the
Speaker 1: way back from San Francisco, about this offense, and I
Speaker 1: kind of went back and looked at some of my
Speaker 1: notes from training camp of like, you know, when we
Speaker 1: make these predictions or we think what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: we'll never know this because this is like two game
Speaker 1: plan ish that they're never going to share this. But
Speaker 1: I think the troubles on offensive line and not troubles
Speaker 1: of like they haven't been doing their job this this week.
Speaker 1: He has Afford niners. Everything about that was scary. But
Speaker 1: if you take that one out, having to pass protect
Speaker 1: the way that this team has had to, I think
Speaker 1: up to this point in this season has completely changed
Speaker 1: the way that you're using your wide receivers, the way
Speaker 1: that you're using your tight ends, you're running backs, Like,
Speaker 1: everything about this starts at the line. That's why you
Speaker 1: hear gms all the time and coaches all the time
Speaker 1: said that starts, you know, in the trench. Is gonna
Speaker 1: start up front. I think if if you would have
Speaker 1: had the same five playing offensive line and and it
Speaker 1: and it working, and it really being like, hey, we
Speaker 1: have five really stout guys that we believe can win
Speaker 1: their one on ones. We're not having to stick an
Speaker 1: extra linement in there, We're not having to use Greg
Speaker 1: Olsen to chip a guy or Christie McCaffrey, and just
Speaker 1: letting your playmakers be out there to make plays only
Speaker 1: and not have to, you know, work in past protection.
Speaker 1: I think it's a big deal when you're talking about
Speaker 1: Chris sam you want and d J. Moore because they
Speaker 1: are the only two probably on every play you know,
Speaker 1: mindus when Jerry's right is in there or another wide
Speaker 1: receiver that they don't have to do anything per se
Speaker 1: of like chipping a guy in past protection. Their only
Speaker 1: job is to get down the field and get open.
Speaker 1: So then you would say like Oh, then they should
Speaker 1: be getting the ball all the time. But there are
Speaker 1: what nine other people on that field that are worried
Speaker 1: about keeping eight worried about well, Kyle's worried too, about
Speaker 1: keeping him upright. So I think when when that is
Speaker 1: the focus and it's not the focus of like, just
Speaker 1: get it to the playmakers, is the focus of allow
Speaker 1: him time to get it to the playmakers. I just
Speaker 1: think that's a different mindset that I don't think this
Speaker 1: offense has taken the next step. You give Matts go
Speaker 1: and nor have a ton of credit for what they've
Speaker 1: been able to do with that offensive line, but the
Speaker 1: fact is you're having to put a ton of time
Speaker 1: and effort into past protection because you don't have the
Speaker 1: same solid five guys. You're rotating your left tackle out,
Speaker 1: you know, in and out of games. Like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of worry about keeping Kyle upright that I think
Speaker 1: it's like one of the last thing on Kyle's mind.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, let me find Kurt Code down the field,
Speaker 1: let me let me make sure DJ gets as fall.
Speaker 1: Like I think that's just me. We'll never know that,
Speaker 1: and that may be me looking into I've never played
Speaker 1: it down to football. I've never been out there on offense,
Speaker 1: so you can come at me about that. But I
Speaker 1: just think when you're looking at the offensive line and
Speaker 1: what they're having to do in past protection, when you're
Speaker 1: changing out your left tackle, when you're asking Greg Olson
Speaker 1: to block a lot, when you're you know, like all
Speaker 1: these other weapons, where if a team is going to say, hey,
Speaker 1: we'll pick your poison, and the pick your poison is
Speaker 1: we're just gonna get after your quarterback because you have
Speaker 1: to pass protect him. I just think that's when like, okay,
Speaker 1: then well you know we'll play press, cover what we'll
Speaker 1: we'll cover. Man. Here, here's what I would say to like,
Speaker 1: you're down three in the first half, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: a hard time pass protecting. Yeah, okay, Like it's I
Speaker 1: don't care who's playing left tackle. They could put four
Speaker 1: different guys out there. They could have had one guy
Speaker 1: at every position the entire time. Like the penalties this
Speaker 1: this offense had to set them up for first and fifteens,
Speaker 1: second and twenties. At one time it was thirty and
Speaker 1: third and thirty. I mean, you're not going to be
Speaker 1: able to execute this offense the way it's designed to win,
Speaker 1: and and again, I don't care if it's the best
Speaker 1: pass blocking offensive line in the NFL, you're down that
Speaker 1: big and that's that's the situation against that defense, when
Speaker 1: they can pin their ears back, it's going to look
Speaker 1: like that. You look at the games where Caroline has
Speaker 1: gotten out to a lead, where they've been able to
Speaker 1: establish the run and lean on the run, it looks
Speaker 1: a whole lot different. And I just think that is
Speaker 1: essentially where this whole league is at. The These defensive
Speaker 1: lines and these pass rushers are so good that if
Speaker 1: you give them a multiple score lead and they know
Speaker 1: that the past is coming, it's gonna be trouble. And
Speaker 1: especially against that Niners defense, you're gonna see at times
Speaker 1: six sacks and a half when when those guys can
Speaker 1: just go. And that's unfortunately the situation Carolina was in
Speaker 1: because it was twenty one three before you really even
Speaker 1: got into the game. And shoot, we've seen the other
Speaker 1: side of it. I mean remember, I mean remember three
Speaker 1: weeks ago. I mean, that wasn't that long ago that
Speaker 1: we're panting our ears back and going after Jamis and
Speaker 1: he's the one seen ghosts And I think that was
Speaker 1: the most disappointing thing about the performance in San Francisco
Speaker 1: was they didn't give themselves a chance. We knew it
Speaker 1: was gonna be tough even if Panthers played their best gaming.
Speaker 1: It's the Niners. It's tough to beat that undefeated team
Speaker 1: in their place, but to make the mistakes that they
Speaker 1: made and all the penalties and to go down quickly,
Speaker 1: like we we talked about it, it it was like they
Speaker 1: can't get down big against San Francisco because that's what
Speaker 1: they do to teams. They get out to a big
Speaker 1: lead and then they start turning the screws and it's
Speaker 1: like good luck blocking Bosa, Armstead, Buckner, all the d Ford,
Speaker 1: good luck. It's it played right into the Niners hands.
Speaker 1: And I think that was the most frustrating thing was
Speaker 1: like Panthers knew what they needed to do in order
Speaker 1: to keep this game competitive. They had to stay on
Speaker 1: schedule on offense, give themselves third and threes, third and fours.
Speaker 1: Instead it was third and nine, third and ten, third, eleven,
Speaker 1: and that's a recipe for disaster. Yeah. I think it's
Speaker 1: just been like this balance on offense where you're trying
Speaker 1: to find like you know, you say balanced offense. So
Speaker 1: you're thinking, all right, that's the run game and the
Speaker 1: passing game, just like making sure. But I think you
Speaker 1: also add into that the fact that what the offensive
Speaker 1: line just had to go through to make sure that
Speaker 1: Kyle Island can have a balanced offense and run that offense.
Speaker 1: I just think that plays into what Curtis Samuel and
Speaker 1: d J. Moore and Jarius Right and all those you know,
Speaker 1: wide receivers are able to do as well. Um. To
Speaker 1: get us back on the Halloween thing, though, I was
Speaker 1: going to say that Kyle Allen should have been Flavor
Speaker 1: Flavor just because of the big clock around his neck
Speaker 1: and that coach was saying that his internal clock was
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit too fast. Just flav a flavor man,
Speaker 1: Just Flavor Flint. Did y'all watch that show? Yeah? Remember
Speaker 1: when he was like the biggest deal for a little while.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Flavor Flave. What was the what was the
Speaker 1: woman's name that came out? Was the show Flavor of
Speaker 1: Love Love? There was yea and what was her name?
Speaker 1: Producer mat can we get some research? Can you look
Speaker 1: that up please? That will be at the end of
Speaker 1: the Halloween hot takes Um. Flavor Flavor just if you
Speaker 1: type in flavor flames, I'm sure this woman will pop up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's in like gifts all the time, flavor Flavor and
Speaker 1: I will wait on this on the end of Halloween hat.
Speaker 1: It's gonna say a little while to get to the bottom. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and now this was years ago when Flavor flav was
Speaker 1: was the man. Let's go Halloween hot takes. I started
Speaker 1: this off strong, unintentionally at the beginning of Oh, we're
Speaker 1: getting No, that's not that's not her. Okay, well we'll
Speaker 1: circle back in a minute. But I started this podcast
Speaker 1: out pretty hot, apparently saying that Halloween is not in
Speaker 1: a real holiday. I stand by that, but let's go
Speaker 1: other Halloween hot takes. Here are just your take that
Speaker 1: may In fact, I know that my Halloween, like my
Speaker 1: view on Halloween, is a hot topic because every single
Speaker 1: year I get yass Nope, not that it either, I
Speaker 1: get I get pushed back of what I think about Halloween. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Will's got it. Who is this woman? She was kind
Speaker 1: of like the villain on the show. Everyone that's listening
Speaker 1: to this that knows this, yeah, they're like yelling the name.
Speaker 1: So sorry, this could be a good Halloween costume. Though
Speaker 1: for anyone out there, if you're looking someone goes Flavor
Speaker 1: today and this, but let's go okay, as Will is
Speaker 1: doing research new York, New York. That was her name, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, they all had nicknames he gave. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like cam Cam could be flavor flavor. He
Speaker 1: gives out nicknames. There's also Hoops. I remember, yeah, Shack,
Speaker 1: what hoops boots? Hoops and boots was hoops who stated
Speaker 1: shack after a flavor flav black Wild. I mean this
Speaker 1: is like this was the Bachelor and Bachelorette before the
Speaker 1: Bachelor Bachelorette. Al Right, well it's going down a rabbit
Speaker 1: back to Halloween hot takes Max. Yeah. So if you've
Speaker 1: if you've listened to press coverage, you've heard every year
Speaker 1: us talk about our Halloween candy hot takes. But we
Speaker 1: haven't gotten Caroline. So that's where I and most interested
Speaker 1: is to find out. Here here's the question I'll ask you, Like,
Speaker 1: when you were trick or treating and you come home
Speaker 1: and you like dump out your thing of candy, which
Speaker 1: are the ones that immediately you're grabbing to eat because
Speaker 1: those are your favorite? And which are the ones that
Speaker 1: immediately you're tossing because it's like, why would somebody ever
Speaker 1: give this candy at its gross? Yeah, so as a kid,
Speaker 1: I wasn't a big sweets eater, but Halloween just don't
Speaker 1: seem to get me. I think that's why we just
Speaker 1: got off on the back foot boot Milk duds. Yeah,
Speaker 1: very good candy. All right, candy, sign me up. Okay,
Speaker 1: keep going. I'll wait for you guys to pat on
Speaker 1: my hot takes here. Milk duds are the best candy
Speaker 1: to your number one. As my number well now, I
Speaker 1: love skittles now, but I don't trick or treat anymore
Speaker 1: because I would be weird. So I would be excited
Speaker 1: about some tropical skittles, But milk duds that was it
Speaker 1: for me. And like I loved when, like you would
Speaker 1: buy the assortment bag for school or something, you would
Speaker 1: take a here, friends, I would take all the milk duds.
Speaker 1: They were not going, they were not leaving a cute
Speaker 1: little box. It's like four milkus, well three or four,
Speaker 1: so it's always exciting when you opened up and you
Speaker 1: had four. Milk does are still my go to. I
Speaker 1: love I love good and milk dud a little tough
Speaker 1: to eat sometimes though, sometimes, but there's kind of an
Speaker 1: art you kind of have to when you have that
Speaker 1: fourth one. It's really nice because you can eat the
Speaker 1: three freely, but then the fourth one has to go
Speaker 1: and is like a clean up, you know, like you're
Speaker 1: gonna down have some caramel or caramel however you want
Speaker 1: to say it in your teeth, like you gotta use
Speaker 1: that fourth one to kind of clean some stuff. You gotta,
Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta bite down where the caramel is
Speaker 1: and then just get it to stick together. That's great, Okay. Now,
Speaker 1: which candy is like gross? I will never eat this.
Speaker 1: I have one that I always I mentioned every year,
Speaker 1: um and it always shows up and I think I
Speaker 1: want to say yours because I think I remember it,
Speaker 1: but I just candy is enjoy It's the worst candy.
Speaker 1: I always describe it as the candy that you give
Speaker 1: to your parents when you come home from check or treating.
Speaker 1: For some reason, parents like it because that's the one
Speaker 1: that has almonds, obviously, and like coconut gross. Honestly, I
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever Yeah, I'll give you some because
Speaker 1: I'm sure it will end up with some around the
Speaker 1: wrapping paper. The branding is supposed to be like exciting,
Speaker 1: and like milk, that's have the most exciting branding either.
Speaker 1: But that's just a good candy. But like alma Enjoy
Speaker 1: looks bad, just like Mounds the same thing. I always
Speaker 1: kind of throw Mounds, milk Duds, and Almond Joys together
Speaker 1: for something different group. Okay, that's completely ferment class. I
Speaker 1: do remember coming home and always being upset when you
Speaker 1: would get like Lifesaver mints. Yeah that's not no, like
Speaker 1: the white ones. Get that out of here, like love
Speaker 1: that now, Thank you Judy for having this in the office.
Speaker 1: But as a kid, I do remember dumping out and
Speaker 1: being like what are they? Never? You know what else
Speaker 1: I don't like what the tutsie roles that are like
Speaker 1: different colors, different colors? Yeah, there's like no now original roles?
Speaker 1: Sign me up? Or do you like? Do like the
Speaker 1: ones in the rapper? Do you like? Kind of the
Speaker 1: longer way to celebrate the entire catalog of tisi rolls.
Speaker 1: But those tropical ones gross. I think twtsie rolls are
Speaker 1: like that ice cream sandwich, Like an ice cream sandwich
Speaker 1: is just classic, the the normal. Just like we're getting
Speaker 1: a little off brain here, but like just nothing fancy
Speaker 1: about it. It's just an ice cream sandwich. That's what
Speaker 1: a tutsie roll like that would be a pretty bad
Speaker 1: Halloween thing though, if you're just ice cream sandwiches everywhere,
Speaker 1: you gave out like many coolers, many coolers with ice cream,
Speaker 1: Like we're going to the house that hands all ice
Speaker 1: cream sward. Well, well, what do you guy for it? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean so yeah, outside of almond joy, I mean
Speaker 1: candy corn, that's horrible. Yeah, I don't like I'll eat
Speaker 1: some candy corn on Halloween, but it's not really something
Speaker 1: you get trick or treating because it's not like wrapped,
Speaker 1: It's just it's just kind of brown. Yeah, I love
Speaker 1: candy corn. Wait, really square off here? What what what
Speaker 1: about it? You know that it's pretty much just like
Speaker 1: colored wax. Okay, here's the thing about this hot take.
Speaker 1: Do you do? That's what people say? You know, it's
Speaker 1: just sugar. Listen, it is it is sugar. I think
Speaker 1: we're about to have a visit from someone that we
Speaker 1: almost Listen, it is sugar, and that's all I care about.
Speaker 1: It is. It is flavored sugar is all it is,
Speaker 1: and it is phenomenal. And the coloring of it. I
Speaker 1: get this whole thing about texture, though, because I hate
Speaker 1: peeps marshmallow peeps. Well, now we're going into the Easter hate.
Speaker 1: But the only reason I hate them is because of
Speaker 1: the texture. The flavor might be the flavor might be good.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you what it tastes like, but the
Speaker 1: texture of a Peep's marshmallow is so disgusting that I
Speaker 1: can't do it. So when people I am so When
Speaker 1: people are like, I don't like candy corn as the texture,
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's a valid point. I understand that when
Speaker 1: they go into it is wax or a crayon. No,
Speaker 1: it's not. But you can't eat crayons. What about circus peanuts?
Speaker 1: What is that boring? It's ranked the second worst Halloween
Speaker 1: candy on. We're looking for original thoughts. Google them. You've
Speaker 1: seen those things. Yeah, they're horrible. Honestly, didn't know that's
Speaker 1: what they were called. Those are gross? Yeah? What Now,
Speaker 1: here's my other candy corn take. I will eat the
Speaker 1: original candy corn. I will not eat the big pumpkins.
Speaker 1: I don't like the pumpkins. I'm not I'm not a
Speaker 1: big because then it's it is too much. It's the
Speaker 1: peeple like effect where there's just too much texture. I
Speaker 1: also I'm not a huge fan of the chocolate flavored
Speaker 1: candy corn were like one of them of the just
Speaker 1: the O G. Where are you guys on like sour
Speaker 1: and gummy stuff? Yeah, say to me, that's kind of
Speaker 1: that's the best when you get like a nice sour
Speaker 1: patch kids or the Warheads were Warheads, comic Warheads, the
Speaker 1: Blue Ones Nerds. Oh completely all right, So I think
Speaker 1: I think we've got Will's Market corner here. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm the guy. I'm the guy. We're dwites just like, Hey,
Speaker 1: look it's Jim sitting on a couch eating nerds, Gym's
Speaker 1: and nerd eating nerds. I got another one for you.
Speaker 1: And this is another very popular jerk or treating handy smarties.
Speaker 1: Don't like him, Yep, I like him. They're just chalk.
Speaker 1: I like him, the little like roll of like I like.
Speaker 1: I like those two. I just opened them up. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: they're going all the way down. I wish everyone could
Speaker 1: see he re enacted eating Smart's your what was your
Speaker 1: best Halloween year? Like, whether it was your costume or
Speaker 1: the party you went to like best Halloween year. Oh man,
Speaker 1: there's Will pulling up a photo. Are you going to
Speaker 1: your Facebook page? You've seen it? Will you please? I've
Speaker 1: shown it to Max. When we post this, you have
Speaker 1: to respond with this photo. Okay, now we're all waiting
Speaker 1: for y'all go what's what's your best? So mine was
Speaker 1: I peeked early here. I believe I was seven or
Speaker 1: eight years old and I dressed as a cat. I
Speaker 1: was just an all black and I had some cat
Speaker 1: ears and a tail. And when you go trick or
Speaker 1: treating in neighborhoods, sometimes you run across a dog and
Speaker 1: the tail on my costume really got this dog excited
Speaker 1: to chase. Well, then it becomes like an actual but
Speaker 1: I was I was scared. I'm not scared of dogs,
Speaker 1: but being chased by a dog and you don't know
Speaker 1: the dog and it's and it's coming for your tail.
Speaker 1: But it still goes down in the history of like
Speaker 1: the best costume in the family because a dog chased
Speaker 1: a cat. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, I just I just read off some
Speaker 1: of my early year costumes. I was super into the
Speaker 1: Power Rangers. I went as Red Ranger and Blue Ranger
Speaker 1: different years, different years. I don't like costumes, okay, change,
Speaker 1: but I will say this about my memory of those costumes.
Speaker 1: It's like, how like gross the mask was that you
Speaker 1: had tiniest little opening for you. They're terrible, just awful. Um.
Speaker 1: And I just remember I was a man in black
Speaker 1: one year. Yeah, when that movie inspiration. I think it
Speaker 1: was kind of cool. I had the sunglasses, I had
Speaker 1: the suit with the black tie. It's a really easy
Speaker 1: costume for mom's and it's like this toy like men
Speaker 1: and black gun though that was supposed to like, you know,
Speaker 1: defeat aliens or whatever. I remember that, did you have
Speaker 1: the little mind thing? Yeah? I must have carried around
Speaker 1: something like that too. This is elementary school, and this
Speaker 1: made me like my fifth grade costume or something like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Like and then early early it was like when mom
Speaker 1: gets to do whatever she wants when you're like too
Speaker 1: young too, so like Kermit the Frog. I was the
Speaker 1: Beast one year from Beauty and the Beast. Uh yeah,
Speaker 1: not my do you have a beauty alongside you or
Speaker 1: it was just the beat? I was just beast. Um,
Speaker 1: my niece. I think this is a really cute. My
Speaker 1: niece her first Halloween, she was a scuba diver and
Speaker 1: so she was like they just put her in black,
Speaker 1: like she was her little socks and everything, and then
Speaker 1: they took a two leader bottle of soda and painted
Speaker 1: it yellow and it put a little straps on it.
Speaker 1: She had it on the back. And like homemade costumes
Speaker 1: that like really nail it are always the best. Like
Speaker 1: I saw somebody on Twitter posted somebody like I'm a favorite.
Speaker 1: Now are meme costumes? So somebody went as the like alright,
Speaker 1: I'm out SpongeBob and he was like sitting on a
Speaker 1: couch and it was a giant like the face and
Speaker 1: he was just sitting there. It was awesome. I haven't.
Speaker 1: If you nail a meme costume, you win, you win. Alright, well,
Speaker 1: all right, so that was Meberg. I was Walter White
Speaker 1: Heisenberg um and then yeah and when I like, I
Speaker 1: literally that hat was called the Heisenberg. And then they
Speaker 1: didn't let me return to walk around with like some
Speaker 1: blue crystals in your packet. I wish I should have
Speaker 1: because like that that year when I went out, there
Speaker 1: was like a lot of people that were him in
Speaker 1: the yellow like the outfit that he wore in the lab,
Speaker 1: the yellow, so that this was like the other version
Speaker 1: of breaking bad. You're really nailing the facial expression too
Speaker 1: in that photo. Oh yeah, yeah, but I was also
Speaker 1: a pirate. I was a pirate a lot always ate
Speaker 1: last year. So I'm not a big like dress up
Speaker 1: as an adult person. I know, shocking with how much
Speaker 1: I love Halloween, but I will say when I go
Speaker 1: all in on Halloween, it is such a fun night
Speaker 1: because it's hilarious to just be in a bar or
Speaker 1: you know, be somewhere where there as a party and
Speaker 1: to see what everyone's were like. It is so funny
Speaker 1: to watch, like, oh, there's a spider man here. Can
Speaker 1: you give us some of this Halloween candy? What's going
Speaker 1: on over there? David Radio producer extraordinary David Lane. Just
Speaker 1: open up this giant and he's got milk ups. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, let's seat in this podcast. We're going to
Speaker 1: open one thing of milks. We're gonna here's what we're
Speaker 1: gonna do. We're gonna rank the candies in this bag.
Speaker 1: What do we got? What is this? What's the office?
Speaker 1: There's some reces over there, bring it over. Thanks for
Speaker 1: opening up your drawer. Alright, so we got Reese's KitKat.
Speaker 1: Some people in this building call it Rese's. By the way,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say who KitKat. Heath bar Whoppers,
Speaker 1: milk DUTs, and crackle and then he just has a
Speaker 1: full bag of snack and then just a giant bag
Speaker 1: of snakers, so all chocolate. Yeah, this is one of
Speaker 1: your chocolate variety packs. I'm a big fan of the crackle.
Speaker 1: I will say, yeah, crack into that really out of
Speaker 1: this I'm KitKat and I'm gonna say I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: Whoppers are the bottom candy in this bag. Yeah, in
Speaker 1: agreement on that. I mean for me, I I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't do the reces. Yeah. So is
Speaker 1: also a crazy person who doesn't like peanut butter, so
Speaker 1: he won't eat Reess. You're not like allergic. I just
Speaker 1: don't do it. I'm having a kid kat. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: having a crackle. Yeah. If you're hearing me chewing and
Speaker 1: smoke duds and you know how that goes like it's
Speaker 1: a little sound effects. It was a three pack. By
Speaker 1: the way, we got a huge You didn't get the four.
Speaker 1: I got three, But I'm going to get another one.
Speaker 1: Thanks for the candy. I know you didn't like plan
Speaker 1: on that, but I really appreciate you coming in coming
Speaker 1: in big here at the end for this Panthers Spooky
Speaker 1: Halloween addition of the group Chat. I'm just getting a
Speaker 1: ghost came in here and just cut us off there.
Speaker 1: But no, guys, thank you so much or we're it's candy.
Speaker 1: It just threw me off. Thank you so much for
Speaker 1: listening to this edition of the group Chat. We'll be
Speaker 1: back next week. No Halloween, it will not be spooky.
Speaker 1: It will be November and that means that Christmas tree
Speaker 1: will be up. Chew on that for a week. Bike
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