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Speaker 1: This one Bill's Live, presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, coming into your living rooms and over your

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Speaker 2: car radios. It's Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you after

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Speaker 2: day six of training camp here at Saint John Fisher,

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Speaker 2: coming you alive. After another addition of practice on an

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Speaker 2: absolutely spectacular sun splash day in Pittsford. It's perfect, seventy

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Speaker 2: five five degrees. I mean, the last two days. Not

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Speaker 2: a beat of sweat on this brow watching practice. That's glorious.

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Speaker 2: That is rare.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you got it. Got into the shade too. You

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Speaker 1: get into the shade, it's like, wow, it's almost you

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Speaker 1: can put a sweater on almost. Yes, it's nice.

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Speaker 2: It's just perfect.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So it was great. Six, I would say, probably to

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Speaker 2: a large extent, belong to the defense. Pass rush Steve

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Speaker 2: noticeable on more than a few occasions for the third

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Speaker 2: consecutive day Sunday, it was noticeable, yesterday, it was noticeable today.

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Speaker 2: Pass rush impacting throws in the passing game by the offense.

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Speaker 2: Hurry throws throws off the back of the foot, you know,

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Speaker 2: by quarterbacks. They're getting the ball off but under duress,

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Speaker 2: and it's made a difference in impacting the Bills passing game,

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Speaker 2: or at least the consistency of it. And you know,

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Speaker 2: people are asked, well, who's getting home?

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Speaker 4: How?

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Speaker 2: You know, how is Leonard Floyd looking? How's this guy look?

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Speaker 2: And everything? Do you know the two guys who keep

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Speaker 2: flashing the most, Shack Losson and Shane Ray, they're both

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Speaker 2: running second team right now, and they are consistently getting

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Speaker 2: in the backfield. It's been nothing short of impressive from

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Speaker 2: those two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's been fun to watch, you know. Just

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Speaker 1: even Josh is like he's trying to hop and throw

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Speaker 1: and it, you know, and he like today his foot

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Speaker 1: got stepped on in the pocket and he's side armed

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Speaker 1: a frustration pass. It's like nine thousand miles per hour,

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Speaker 1: thirty yards away and steph right in his chest. So

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of cool because I'll say this too.

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Speaker 1: The offensive line is going to be better because of it.

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Speaker 1: You know, the defensive line is going to be better

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Speaker 1: because of it. They everybody's going to be better. Pass

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Speaker 1: rush affects so many other aspects of your game, of

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Speaker 1: the of the team and the game and how they progress,

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Speaker 1: maybe more so than any of the group, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. But you know your offense, you say,

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Speaker 1: your offensive line, and maybe if you can run the

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Speaker 1: ball all that, but man, oh man, you got a

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Speaker 1: pass rush, your offense is gonna benefit because they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get that other team off the field. You're gonna get

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Speaker 1: more chances at the pie, You're gonna get more turnovers

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Speaker 1: because of it. Everything happens when your pass rush is dominant.

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Speaker 1: And it's and I'm not saying the Bills are going

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Speaker 1: to have a dominant pass rush, but you know, all

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Speaker 1: this is done without a guy who's going to the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, Von Miller. He's still waiting to get

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Speaker 1: in there. So yeah, it's they are really really looking

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Speaker 1: good at this point of camp, and they've affected a

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Speaker 2: We will also make mention of some position competitions to

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Speaker 2: some degree. We heard that Brandon Bean on a national

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Speaker 2: radio show talked about how Tyrel Dodson and Terrell Bernard

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Speaker 2: were looking really good through the first week of the

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Speaker 2: practice session sessions. He said, I don't want to discount

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Speaker 2: what Baial inspect has done. He's done a nice job,

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Speaker 2: but those two guys have stood out to him today.

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Speaker 2: Based on the way the rotation was supposed to go,

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Speaker 2: at middle linebacker. You know, each of those three candidates

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Speaker 2: has been rotating through with the first team. Today was

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Speaker 2: supposed to be bail Inspector's day, and today it was

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Speaker 2: Tyrrell Dodson. So when Dodson Sunday Bernard yesterday it was

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Speaker 2: supposed to be specter. Today it was Dodson. Now we'll

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Speaker 2: see what happens on Thursday, because they're off tomorrow. But

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Speaker 2: has the middle linebacker competition been whittled down to two candidates?

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Speaker 2: I think it's possible.

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Speaker 1: Maybe I think it's a little early for it, because

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Speaker 1: you know, we'll see, but there's nothing that says it

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Speaker 1: couldn't be either. You know, I don't know how much

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Speaker 1: practice yet. We'll see. Depends. There's so much we don't know.

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Speaker 1: But yes, if if you're keeping track of the rotation,

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Speaker 2: So what that means will have to wait and see,

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Speaker 2: prior to practice today, and he was asked about the

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Speaker 2: cornerback two competition, and he talked about the three players

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Speaker 2: who remain in the mix, Dane Jackson, Christian Benford, Kyer

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Speaker 2: Elam and what do we see today, Kyer Elim again

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Speaker 2: getting more first team reps, I would say more than

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Speaker 2: the other two today. So where is that competition? I

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Speaker 2: still think it's very much up in the air. And

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Speaker 2: even John Butler said Steve that he says they have

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Speaker 2: a long way to go in determining, you know, the

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Speaker 2: who's the guy at CB two. But there's also this,

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Speaker 2: I asked John Butler today when he was addressing the media.

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Speaker 2: Your team under Shawn mc dermott has a history of

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Speaker 2: platooning cornerbacks. They did it last year with Benford and

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Speaker 2: for one and that continued through the first month of

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Speaker 2: the season. For the most part. They've done it before that.

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Speaker 2: When that veteran from Houston, Kevin Johnson was here for

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Speaker 2: a year, he rotated and platooned with Levi Wallace. So

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Speaker 2: there is history here of platooning corners. So I asked

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Speaker 2: the other two, could you foresee a platoon situation again

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Speaker 2: at corner? And he did admit that in the past

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Speaker 2: they've done that. It sounded to me that like, it's

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Speaker 2: not an ideal situation, and he explained why. He said, Look,

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Speaker 2: we have guys that are out there at the start

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Speaker 2: guy going in has no feel for what's happened to

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Speaker 2: is some risk involved to platooning players. But if nobody

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Speaker 2: and I deserve sixty five snaps a week, they may platoon.

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Speaker 2: He left the door open.

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Speaker 1: It always gives you that idea that because there's there's

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Speaker 1: it's not too much. It's usually too little, too not

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Speaker 1: too many guys, You got too few guys, right, So

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Speaker 1: it's hard for people to sit there and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: now you're gonna tell me you got three starting corners.

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Speaker 1: Elam and Benford can both go along with Tradevius White

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Speaker 1: is the best case scenario is that they're all playing

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Speaker 1: a starting cornerback for the Bills. Turdevius White certainly is

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Speaker 1: and has proven his his worth there and contend. Now

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Speaker 1: he's you know, he's having a really good camp. Why

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Speaker 1: aren't those other guys having good camps? Because they're not.

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Speaker 1: They're not. They're getting talked about a little bit only

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Speaker 1: because of the competition they're in. And you see him

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Speaker 1: flash once in a while, But all of them make

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Speaker 1: a play here and there. That's what you worry about though.

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Speaker 1: And this whole court is corner competition in the middle

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Speaker 1: linebacker competition too. If you don't have one that you

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Speaker 2: Guy that does appear to be making a move in

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Speaker 2: a competition. Is Osiris Torrence third straight day getting the

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Speaker 2: most action at right guard, third straight day?

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Speaker 1: That's that's that's more than a trend.

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Speaker 2: That's a move. Yes, he's made a move.

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Speaker 1: I think I think it is. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: They're making these decisions in other positions, right, you know

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Speaker 1: I think David Edwards is veteran insurance in case the

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Speaker 1: whole thing.

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Speaker 2: Goes up in smoke. Fine, So it's essentially a two

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Speaker 2: man position battle. You and I have talked on this

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Speaker 2: show and on our podcast Bills by the Numbers, which

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Speaker 2: we'll have a new episode out later this week. Just

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Speaker 2: as a programming note the fact that there is a

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Speaker 2: shift in philosophy with what this team wants guard to

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Speaker 2: guard bigger, heavier, so they can run more effectively between

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Speaker 2: the tackles. Just by virtue of that philosophy, things would

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Speaker 2: appear to lean in favor of Osiris Torrance, who goes

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Speaker 2: to three, barely three hundred. From that standpoint alone, then

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Speaker 2: He can't get enough reps. So if you have to

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Speaker 2: make a decision there, that's one of the first decisions

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Speaker 2: you're making in position battles. I mean, at least you

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Speaker 2: have reps for kyr, Benford, and Jackson all in this league,

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Speaker 2: so you can maybe wait a little longer on that one,

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Speaker 2: as opposed to Osiris. If you want to go with Osiris,

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Speaker 2: get him in there now and get him as many

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Speaker 1: That's right that and that makes some sense to me.

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Speaker 1: It certainly does not speak to where they were last

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Speaker 1: and I think more more than anything, Yeah, I don't

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Speaker 1: know when they may can move like that. I think

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Speaker 1: they've made the decision, not just that. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're certainly still going to evaluate, you know, what's going

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Speaker 1: this Shane Ray and Shaq Lawson, they're moving up, so

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Speaker 1: you know somebody's not somebody's moving down when those guys

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Speaker 1: move up, right, And so that's that's what you're with

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Speaker 1: many reps versus quality opponents. Whatever. The problem is this

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Speaker 1: Jackson on the outside, it's different because when they rotate

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Speaker 1: You know, they're going against Steph Diggs, They're going against

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Speaker 1: you know Shorter, they're going against you know eight men, Surefield,

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Speaker 1: they're going against Patman Shavers and also were going against

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Speaker 1: Hardy and Davis and Diggs. All those corners roll through

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Speaker 1: there because there's thirteen wide outs and there's only like

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Speaker 1: six corners, right, so those guys get reps and one

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Speaker 1: on ones against all those guys. Don't know that that's

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Speaker 1: the case with the guards, and you know with the guard,

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Speaker 1: the defensive line across from Plus we still have only

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Speaker 1: lot of rotation going on with some of these guards

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Speaker 1: Cam Louis ain't going anywhere. You know, he may he make.

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Speaker 1: Cam Lewis has done that time and time again. He's

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Speaker 1: How much he plays Brownie to me depends on what

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Speaker 1: if you know. I don't know how much playing time

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Speaker 1: or whatever he's gonna get in the preseason, but that'd

433
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Speaker 1: be kind of cool to see him do something like that,

434
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Speaker 1: get on the field flash at least for a minute.

435
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Speaker 1: He's in a battle for a roster spot, you know,

436
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Speaker 1: with Poyer, Hide, Rap, cam Lewis, Lewis and Damar. It's

437
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Speaker 1: a lot of names for two spots.

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Speaker 2: I believe they. Yeah, they kept five safeties last year.

439
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:37,640
Speaker 2: It was Hamlin, Poyer Hide and then it was Jakwan

440
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Speaker 2: Johnson and then cam Lewis. So they kept five safeties

441
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Speaker 2: last year, and knowing how much value coach McDermott puts

442
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Speaker 2: on that position, it wouldn't surprise me if that was

443
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Speaker 2: again the case. Dean Marlow is one of those guys.

444
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Speaker 2: Dean Marlow came later came at the trade deadline when

445
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: Micah was already out for the year, So Dean Marlow

446
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Speaker 2: kind of came into the fold when they there was

447
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 2: a vacancy there, but they carried five when they made

448
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Speaker 2: the initial fifty three man roster.

449
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Speaker 1: Are they using Zane Anderson as a slot corner or I.

450
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Speaker 2: Have not seen that he's been strictly a safety. And

451
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Speaker 2: that's another guy for special teams that was brought in

452
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Speaker 2: here as a special teams specialist that you will.

453
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Speaker 1: They lost one of their special teams corps in Taiwan

454
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Speaker 1: Jones and there's that spot.

455
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Speaker 2: So who you know, and Saran Neil is part of that.

456
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Speaker 1: Siran Neil. Siran Neil was also part of that core guy,

457
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Speaker 1: So he's a core guy. Medikevitch is a core guy.

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Speaker 1: All he's you know, he's out with a cap. He'll

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Speaker 1: be back quick enough. Klein aj Klein is also one

460
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Speaker 1: of those core special teams guys. When he's on the team.

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Speaker 2: Tyrell Johnson, if he wins the middle linebacker yah probably

462
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Speaker 2: comes off.

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Speaker 1: So that's two.

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Speaker 2: And then he got Bernard or Specter right there.

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Speaker 1: Now. Specter played course teams as well. Yeah, it's a

466
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Speaker 1: it's it goes into the mix because jaw puzzle, you

467
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Speaker 1: need you need like eight four down special teams players,

468
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: punt punt return, kickoff, kickoff return. You gotta have eight

469
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Speaker 1: of those guys. If you can get them, then you've

470
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Speaker 1: got kicker, punter, long snapper. But those guys gotta be

471
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Speaker 1: able to you know, they gotta be as good as

472
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Speaker 1: you can get them so they can finish games if

473
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Speaker 1: they have to be put in right. You know. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 1: there's a lot in this roster this year.

475
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Speaker 2: There's a lot to be decided to be decided for sure.

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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here though, because when

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Speaker 2: we come back, we're gonna be joined by a fan

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Speaker 2: duel TV host of The Up and Adam Show, the

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Speaker 2: One and Only Kay Adam's gonna join us here. She's

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Speaker 2: made Buffalo part of her training camp tour. We'll talk

481
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Speaker 2: to her about that, and the first place she stopped

482
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Speaker 2: was the Jets. What's Rogers telling her about all that

483
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Speaker 2: money he gave back? We'll find out when we return

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Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by a Lot of Health,

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Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Task with you live from Bill's training

487
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Speaker 2: camp at Saint John Fisher and please to be joined

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Speaker 2: now by fan Duel TV, host of The Up and

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Speaker 2: Adams Show. It is the one and only Kay Adams.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for making some time for us.

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Speaker 5: How you doing, beautiful introduction, beautiful day, The weather's fantastic.

492
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Speaker 5: I'm sitting next to future Hall of Famous.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, an ultimate future.

494
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Speaker 2: Yes, doesn't he horrible with those platitudes.

495
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Speaker 5: You know what I'm going to do this whole time

496
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Speaker 5: I'm here. It's just compliment you greatly. You look terrific.

497
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 5: You're a beautiful, loving dad and deer buffalo fan.

498
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Speaker 1: I am a loving dad because the only reason I'm

499
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Speaker 1: growing the beer is because one of my one of

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Speaker 1: our our youngest is getting married and I've been instructed.

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Speaker 2: Congrats, right, so you're.

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Speaker 5: Told to grow beer.

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Speaker 6: The whole bridle, the whole bridal party, the open bar. Well,

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Speaker 6: he might be doing that also, but the whole bridal

505
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Speaker 6: party has to have mustaches. So he's doing the full

506
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Speaker 6: thing because he doesn't want to go just mustang.

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Speaker 5: Don't look it seems very ticky, tacky, So he does

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Speaker 5: what he's.

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Speaker 7: Where.

510
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Speaker 5: They're taking up of the tab is applied.

511
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Speaker 2: All right, Oh you're on training camp tour.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, is this like stop number twenty.

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Speaker 5: Three of thir No, I wish I would go to

514
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Speaker 5: all thirty six, right, Yes, I absolutely would. We started

515
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,479
Speaker 5: almost can I say Jets, We'll right, because it's closer

516
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 5: to the easiest airport from LA.

517
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Speaker 1: Every conversation about the NFL these days must start with.

518
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Speaker 5: The Jets, and nobody's happy about it.

519
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,120
Speaker 1: That's the you're kind of happy.

520
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Speaker 5: You think Champagne's the only one around the AFC who's

521
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 5: not a non plus with the idea that the Jets

522
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 5: are the only headlight. No, he has the sentiment that

523
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 5: that exists all over that conference. I really believe that.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say this too. We made for the last

525
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Speaker 1: two years off seasons, we've all missed a holiday because

526
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Speaker 1: we used to be able to make fun of the

527
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,479
Speaker 1: Jets draft it was like a holiday. Not so much anymore.

528
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Speaker 1: They are actually good right top to.

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Speaker 5: Bottom, pretty talented team. I talked to mister Sali yesterday.

530
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Speaker 5: I asked him, and you know, he was around those

531
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Speaker 5: Seattle teams. He was around that Niners defense, great NFC squads.

532
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 5: I said, is this the best team? And he didn't

533
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 5: really want to say, but top to bottom that defense

534
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 5: was third best yesterday, third best last year. I asked

535
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Speaker 5: Quinn Williams, what do you want to do with this defense?

536
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:09,960
Speaker 5: What are your goals? He goes, we were bad? I

537
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 5: go you were top three? He goes, If you aren't first,

538
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Speaker 5: your last.

539
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Speaker 2: Well, Ricky Bobby quote there.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Bill, defense is gonna have to bring it to

541
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Speaker 5: keep up with the Jets. It's true. It's a wild

542
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Speaker 5: time in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So you know Aaron Rodgers hands back thirty five

544
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Speaker 2: million to the Jets. Kind of an unprecedented thing for

545
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Speaker 2: any player in this league. I mean, you hear players

546
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Speaker 2: take pay cuts, but not thirty five minutes models here

547
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Speaker 2: you go, like, here's thirty five mil. Do with it

548
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Speaker 2: what you will? What is Did you get an answer

549
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: from Aaron as to what was behind that decision? Was

550
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Speaker 2: it truly team oriented? I can't imagine any other reason.

551
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Speaker 5: He told me was that untried? Said what are we

552
00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 5: doing with this thirty five million dollars? And he said

553
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 5: he didn't answer it. He said, I don't miss the money.

554
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 5: That's what he wanted to know. When you sit down

555
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 5: with Aaron, it's what he wants to get out there.

556
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 5: It's not what you're asking him. So he you know,

557
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: I don't miss the money. I'm okay. I can't imagine.

558
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 5: Money is a tough issue, okay, And that's a bit

559
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 5: of a cloud. It adds to the pressure, it adds

560
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Speaker 5: to the availability and the opportunity for this team, of course,

561
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Speaker 5: But if they're if Joe Douglas and sala are having

562
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Speaker 5: conversations with Woody, with whoever, the Johnson family, whoever the brass,

563
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Speaker 5: you don't think Aaron's poking in there. You don't think

564
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Speaker 5: Aaron's like, actually, no, I want this guy. If this

565
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Speaker 5: Dalvinteil doesn't get done and Aaron wanted it to get done,

566
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Speaker 5: is he going to have an issue with it being

567
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Speaker 5: out of his thirty five dollars savings and bonus that

568
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Speaker 5: they gave that he gave back to the team. It

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Speaker 5: might at some point could get complicated, But I understand

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Speaker 5: that he told me it is for the team. Is

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Speaker 5: the team can make moves not only this year, but

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Speaker 5: next year as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay. So do you think because it's quite literally his money,

574
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Speaker 2: that he can swing a bigger swing, a bigger stick

575
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Speaker 2: in the decision making as to who just who that

576
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Speaker 2: money is going to list.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that he is swinging a thirty five

578
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Speaker 5: million dollar stick. That is what I'm sure I try

579
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Speaker 5: to pick.

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Speaker 1: That's for sure.

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Speaker 5: Right, did he need to is the question him already?

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Speaker 3: Right?

583
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Speaker 2: Lizard and Randall?

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Speaker 5: And then they're letting him be involved in the architecture.

585
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 5: They brought in Nathaniel Hackett. You think that was because

586
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers wanted his guy. And Aaron has had very

587
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Speaker 5: special seasons with Hackett. His numbers are up, it's objective

588
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 5: MVP seasons. That's his guy, that's who he wants to run.

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Speaker 5: But that's all for Aaron, and I don't I mean

590
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Speaker 5: it was as James Jones. Is Jordy Nelson somewhere gonna

591
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Speaker 5: come out of retirement joining this team with this thirty

592
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 5: five billion I don't know. I do know that Sala

593
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 5: said he likes the running back depth, which further just

594
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 5: devalues that position. If we want to talk about the

595
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 5: Bills now, now with that running back, this is this

596
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 5: is the poster child for you know, we haven't had

597
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Speaker 5: a big running back here since what Lashawn McCoy a

598
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:51,280
Speaker 5: really highly paid This team is a super run by committee.

599
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 5: See who's out there. They like what Cook's looking like.

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Speaker 5: You guys, tell me what you think about Harris. They

601
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Speaker 5: don't need to pay that big RB. So I think

602
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Speaker 5: the guys like Dalvin Cook are going to be sitting

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Speaker 5: up until they really needed.

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Speaker 1: You had a conversation with Melvin Gordon, great running back,

605
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Speaker 1: who told you, you know what am I doing here? Right?

606
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:06,920
Speaker 1: What do you say?

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Speaker 5: Well, yeah, this is a prolific college running back. He's

608
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 5: had lots of success. It did not turn out well

609
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 5: for him in Denver. He did not enjoy his time

610
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 5: with the Hackett regime, goes to Kansas City and now

611
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 5: wants to have a rebirth with the Baltimore Ravens. And

612
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 5: he told me that if he could go back and

613
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Speaker 5: do it all over again, he would never play the

614
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Speaker 5: running back position. It sort of made me sad. He said,

615
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Speaker 5: I'd rather play corner, which is maybe harder, but they

616
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Speaker 5: get paid. They have to run backwards but the whole game,

617
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Speaker 5: but they get paid more and it's a more secure spot.

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Speaker 1: No matter how you slice it. And even in my experience,

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Speaker 1: and of course the game has gotten more and more

620
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Speaker 1: pass happy since even I came into the league. We

621
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Speaker 1: were running eleven personnel all the time. It's a brutal

622
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Speaker 1: way to make a living running back, even in today's NFL.

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Speaker 1: It is brutal, physically demanding, and it's a it's a.

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Speaker 5: They get hit more of their careers are shorter at

625
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 5: the client starts at age twenty one. But that's the market,

626
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Speaker 5: and sort of it's adjusted to it, like the tight

627
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 5: end market adjusted out of what it was, and the

628
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 5: value with pass protection, with what they do as receivers,

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Speaker 5: they're now getting paid more. If you pay the running

630
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 5: backs more, you're taking away from other positions. I don't

631
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Speaker 5: know what the solution is, but it's not on It's

632
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Speaker 5: going to be solved now, like Jacobs, get your money now.

633
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Speaker 1: The evolution is clear though, no question about it. I

634
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Speaker 1: think the one way that they're responding to it is

635
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Speaker 1: just like the bills are doing, pay the money, but

636
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Speaker 1: give it to a bunch of guys and let them

637
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Speaker 1: share the load and don't crush their career. So maybe

638
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: they can get a little bit of a longer career

639
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: carrying less of the load, and they can you know, make.

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Speaker 2: Their big time money that way.

641
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Speaker 1: Not every year, but at least they'll extend their careers

642
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 1: by a couple of years and they won't get that

643
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Speaker 1: second they won't get Yeah, I know it's a little

644
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,239
Speaker 1: bit of that, but man, I don't know.

645
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Speaker 3: Maybe there was.

646
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Speaker 5: You know, Sam Bradford was the last paid guy, right,

647
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Speaker 5: the last one that made all that money.

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Speaker 2: C J.

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Speaker 5: Spiller I think it was that same year was taken

650
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Speaker 5: by you guys, got a big contract and he's the

651
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Speaker 5: last one that sort of lived it out to expectations.

652
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Speaker 5: The bills paid him. He made it through. Now you

653
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Speaker 5: look at Dejean Robinson, he's making about the same money

654
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Speaker 5: that CJ. Spiller made on that deal, but the salary

655
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Speaker 5: cap has gone truly about ten times that. So it's

656
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Speaker 5: not really fair. In my opinion, the contracts should be

657
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Speaker 5: shorter for the rookie year, three years, maybe a fourth

658
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Speaker 5: year option. Yeah, give them a chance to negotiate. Gives

659
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Speaker 5: sake on a chance to negotiate because once you know,

660
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Speaker 5: they franchise tagged him this year, they might tag him again,

661
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Speaker 5: but they don't have a chance to go get paid

662
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Speaker 5: in their prime. Most rookies are most impactful at the

663
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Speaker 5: running back spot differently than other positions because they make

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Speaker 5: an impact right away.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a tough sell to the owners because first

666
00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: round draft picks and all those are really valuable, and

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Speaker 1: they don't want to give it away for a three

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Speaker 1: year deal, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So it'll be and you won't negotiate it till twenty.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to quote Jim Mersay, but that CBA,

671
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Speaker 1: that CBA was right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this virald quickly.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me go, let me let me say that.

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Speaker 2: All right, So moving on, moving on. Yeah, that's what.

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Speaker 1: We got this trade camp here going on. It's you know,

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Speaker 1: running back. Why do you think the national media has

677
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 1: in some ways stepped away from their love affair with

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Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, but I'm so glad they have. I

680
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 5: think under cell over deliver has always been a mantra

681
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Speaker 5: of mine. I think what's going on with the Jets

682
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Speaker 5: is a little scary. Winning the off season, the HBO cameras,

683
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Speaker 5: all of the eyes that you have that last time,

684
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 5: a little precarrel everyone was picking you. There's just something natural,

685
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Speaker 5: there's something that we know instinctively. When everybody's picking this

686
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 5: team and going all in, it usually doesn't pan out

687
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Speaker 5: that way. I'm always a fan of put in the work,

688
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 5: fix the things that need to be fixed. Get von healthy,

689
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Speaker 5: get your devius back to normal. Get we don't want

690
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Speaker 5: this to iff Ustefan did's national narrative with Josh Elle.

691
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 5: We don't want any of that. It's it's go here,

692
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Speaker 5: be it this beautiful, incredible college atmosphere. Get your stuff together,

693
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 5: because the pressure does have an effect, no matter what

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Speaker 5: anybody says. So I think, you know, I don't think

695
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,839
Speaker 5: it's fatigue. I think people would love nothing more than

696
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 5: for Josh Allen, the cover boy, the face of the NFL,

697
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 5: to get this thing done and to sort of take

698
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 5: He has this opportunity to take this fan base and

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Speaker 5: you cure them of this malady that they've had, Your

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Speaker 5: in your out. I think he can do it. I

701
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Speaker 5: don't think the pressure helps in that situation, all right.

702
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Speaker 2: So not to fast forward too much, but let's let's

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Speaker 2: jump to week one just for fun here, because the

704
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: atmosphere is going to be riduculous. We're talking MetLife Stadium,

705
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Speaker 2: Monday Night football anniversary of nine to eleven Bills Jets

706
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Speaker 2: and the expectations for Jets fans. If they're not through

707
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: the roof already, they'll be up in the stratosphere. Somewhere,

708
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Speaker 2: and the Bills have to go into that environment and

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Speaker 2: deal with it. Now, as a guy that sides with

710
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Speaker 2: the Bills, I'm just gonna throw this out there for fun.

711
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 2: The last two season openers for Aaron Rodgers downright stinkers.

712
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,800
Speaker 2: Downright stinkers. Go look at the numbers. I mean, thirty

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00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 2: four to seven to the Saints. I mean they've laid

714
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Speaker 2: eggs the last and he's not going to play, presumably

715
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Speaker 2: in the preseason again here with the Jets. You think

716
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Speaker 2: they're throwing him out there in the preseason to get hurt.

717
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Speaker 2: Probably not, So, you know, I'm trying to speak it

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Speaker 2: into existence just from a favoritism standpoint, but Week one

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Speaker 2: has not gone well for Aaron Rodgers. The last two.

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Speaker 5: Sets all a matter of chemistry. I think that's a

721
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,359
Speaker 5: big reason last year that the season started that way.

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Speaker 5: Remember he didn't have.

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Speaker 2: Hacket right and young receivers.

724
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Speaker 5: Really young receivers. Christian Watson didn't pop on the scene

725
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Speaker 5: until they took on I think the Cowboys a lot

726
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Speaker 5: later into the season started scoring touchdowns week in week out.

727
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Speaker 5: But that is the same thing that you're going to

728
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 5: see Aaron Rodgers dealing with Garrett Wilson isn't practicing right now,

729
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 5: that's his number one. I was at practice yesterday and

730
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Speaker 5: that defense had a nice easy day. Okay, saus Gardner

731
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Speaker 5: was like, who another day at the office without Without Garrett,

732
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Speaker 5: who else is going to step up and develop that

733
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Speaker 5: chemistry quickly with Aaron? Who isn't the easiest to build

734
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Speaker 5: chemistry with if we're totally being totally honest. So you

735
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Speaker 5: look at you know, even even Tom Brady, he leaves,

736
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Speaker 5: changes conferences, goes down to Tampa. They weren't hot at

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Speaker 5: the gate. They weren't all those I mean, COVID was

738
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Speaker 5: the thing as well, but they lost so many games,

739
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Speaker 5: one eight straight and won the Super Bowl. They're not

740
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Speaker 5: doing Aaron Rodgers can't does not have that luxury in

741
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Speaker 5: a no margin of error AFC.

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Speaker 2: Which is why I'm very curious to see if he

743
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Speaker 2: plays even a little bit in the preseason. Just helped

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Speaker 2: push that along, because you know, you you don't play

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Speaker 2: a game speed, you know, with your new guys, do

746
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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like, I know, preseason isn't

747
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Speaker 2: regular season, but it's closer to game speed than practice.

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Speaker 1: You're right, though, they got they got their heads handed

749
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Speaker 1: to him by the Vikings last year Opening Day, and

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Speaker 1: then before and then the year before.

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Speaker 2: That it was the Saints.

752
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Speaker 1: It was the Saints thirty eight to three the year before.

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Speaker 2: That's so they've.

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Speaker 1: Still looked like the same team. Does it seem fragile

755
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Speaker 1: in New York?

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Speaker 2: For the.

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Speaker 1: If they if they stumble.

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Speaker 2: Well you know how new York, right.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Or do they does Robert sala you live there?

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Speaker 5: Oh no, I lived there for twelve years.

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Speaker 1: So you know if they do stumble is certainly there's

763
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Speaker 1: going to be a firestorm. We all know that. Can

764
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Speaker 1: Robert Salah hold the ship together?

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Speaker 5: The fans will bails? Well, I'm just this is the

766
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Speaker 5: fans will The fans will be worried by week three.

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Speaker 5: You know they have a gauntlet. You guys have a galllet.

768
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Speaker 5: Everyone has a gatlet in this division. So Week four,

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Speaker 5: I think the Jets have cheap Sunday night football and

770
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Speaker 5: then they have to do the Bronco thing against John

771
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Speaker 5: Payton with all this drama going on Week five, If

772
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Speaker 5: they're not, if their record isn't great, then yes, it's

773
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Speaker 5: It'll first be the fans, then it will be the

774
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Speaker 5: the media then the fans we're holding hands skipping through

775
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 5: down Broadway, those together causing trouble. But I yesterday tried

776
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,840
Speaker 5: to poke holes in everyone and everything. You have to understand.

777
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 5: I was there for ten hours going, oh, come on,

778
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 5: like Rogers can't like what's going And I told him

779
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 5: this too, space to go. I tried, you know, but no,

780
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Speaker 5: the dipstick came back, clean out the engine, the oil

781
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Speaker 5: whatever like it was there is. Every one's vibe is

782
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 5: and pressure wouldn't be the word that I used. They

783
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Speaker 5: they are excited. They somehow this team feels like they've

784
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 5: deserved it, They've earned it. After the Adam Gase, Sam Darnold.

785
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Speaker 5: I mean, I could go on and on and on,

786
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Speaker 5: and they're just feeling away where coach Salah is completely

787
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Speaker 5: and I believe this on the same page as his

788
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Speaker 5: quarterback for now all things go bad. Of course, that's

789
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Speaker 5: something that will be looked forward to or at least

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Speaker 5: by this Fandakay.

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Speaker 2: Thanks as always for the time. Why don't you give

792
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Speaker 2: a quick plug for who we can expect to see

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Speaker 2: from Bill's.

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Speaker 5: Camp on I got some NFL players, Josh Allen, Yeah,

795
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Speaker 5: we got Steve task Her on the show.

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Speaker 1: What right, I am dropping by?

797
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Speaker 5: Yeah about you look really happy about I'm so glad.

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Speaker 1: Wow?

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Speaker 5: Okay, got Josh Allen? Can I get Digs? I need

800
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Speaker 5: to talk to Digs probab we won't gave Davis, I believe,

801
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,479
Speaker 5: and Von Miller joining me live during the show.

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Speaker 1: In short, everybody's standing in line to get on with K.

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Speaker 5: Who am I mister king? K? Is that my guy

804
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 5: that I'm zeroing in on crushing Camp's story? So we're

805
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 5: gonna what eleven sets out there?

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Speaker 6: Were?

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Speaker 2: Running?

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Speaker 5: Eleven out there?

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00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 2: Twelve?

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Speaker 5: Twelve twelve that's what I meant.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, twelve Okay, well there'll be eleven.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, that's what I would like to see,

813
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Speaker 5: to see the other person of good. Yeah, he seems

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Speaker 5: very nice. Yeah. What should I ask Josh Allen?

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Speaker 1: Uh, that's a good question. There's nothing left to ask

816
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 1: the guy. I mean, he's out there, right, he's.

817
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Speaker 5: We asked him about his dating life?

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00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well we haven't, No, we we don't. We

819
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Speaker 2: usually go there.

820
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 5: You've got to ask him.

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Speaker 2: You've got a little more latitude.

822
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Speaker 5: And on YouTube at Up and Adams Show, The at

823
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Speaker 5: Signed Up and Adam Show on YouTube, all the clips

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Speaker 5: are there thanks everybody.

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Speaker 2: All right. TV host k Adams joining us here at

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Speaker 2: Bill's training camp at Saints of Fisher, will take a break.

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Speaker 2: Be back with more on One Bill's Live, presented by

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Speaker 2: a lot of health It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

829
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: good conversation there with Kay Adams on the up and

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Speaker 2: Adams Show on thing a Duel TV. Good to have

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Speaker 2: her here and taken in training camp. Was she was

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Speaker 2: keenly interested in you know, where we really think this

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Speaker 2: team can go. Yeah, I know we kind of peppered

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Speaker 2: her with Jets questions since she had just come from

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Speaker 2: the Jets camp, but it is the opener. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the fact remains that is the first team that the

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Speaker 2: Bills will be playing in a game that counts. So yeah,

838
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Speaker 2: we want to gather all the intel we can for

839
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Speaker 2: goodness sake.

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Speaker 1: And I think people looked at the Bills the way

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00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: they finished, and there's a little bit I heard on

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00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 1: Jeremy and Joe's show this morning. You know, I think

843
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: they're right. People see the Bills, same core group and

844
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: they think, well, same core group, same core problems, same result,

845
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: and that's that's just not the case. A lot of

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00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: different faces here and they do things the right way,

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Speaker 1: and when you do things the right way, you're gonna

848
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: get it right. And they get a lot of stuff right.

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Speaker 1: They have gotten a lot of stuff right over the

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00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: last three years, a lot more than other teams have

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Speaker 1: been able to do, and they have overcome a ton

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Speaker 1: of stuff. So I don't think there's any question they're

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00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: gonna be good enough this year to go to and

854
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 1: win it. But they got to win the right games

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00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: at the right times, and they got to get out

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00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: of their own way and a little bit more than

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Speaker 1: they were able to last year. Certainly when they play

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and we know this when Josh is

859
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: your quarterback, you have this kind of chaotic feel about

860
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: like nothing's ever over until they blow that whistle, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just what are we watching here? What's

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00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: gonna happen? So there's a little bit of that, and

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Speaker 1: I think that leads to a little bit of the

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Speaker 1: chaotic nature some of the outcomes of their game, even

865
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: if they come out on top sometimes, but that kind

866
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,320
Speaker 1: of I think they are still that team that has

867
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: is gonna be a force to be reckoned with. Now

868
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: there's you know, yes, Jet's gonna be better, absolutely Dolphin's

869
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 1: gonna be better, Okay if you say so. They play

870
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,959
Speaker 1: the West and they play the NFC East. Is a tough,

871
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,320
Speaker 1: two tough divisions, So it's gonna be a hard fought season.

872
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: They're not gonna win seventeen games, but man, oh man,

873
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, They're gonna be hard to beat

874
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,840
Speaker 1: every single week.

875
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think the depth of talent is something

876
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 2: that's gonna go a long way in making them tough

877
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: to beat, even if they do sustain a couple of

878
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: injuries that keep some key people out of week or

879
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: two here or three or four weeks there. Because you

880
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 2: know every team has them, they're inevitable. But when you

881
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: think of the depth you know that they add at

882
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,839
Speaker 2: safety and a guy like Taylor Rap, the depth that

883
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 2: they add on the defensive line like a Leonard Floyd

884
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 2: and a Poon of Ford, the the depth they add

885
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 2: on the offensive line. You know, David Edwards, a three

886
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 2: year started with the Rams, is probably not going to

887
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 2: start for this team. I mean, you know what I mean?

888
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 2: Think about that stuff. This Ryan Bates could be bounced

889
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,120
Speaker 2: out of the starting lineup and be Mitch Morse's backup center.

890
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 2: Like that's valuable depth.

891
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,880
Speaker 1: I think that is the one thing I will be

892
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: totally shocked and disappointed. And this off offensive line to

893
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: me seems markedly better than it was a year ago.

894
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 1: And think about this, they do seem markedly better. They're

895
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: more talented, They got bigger, more athletic guys on it

896
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: at both guards, and this pass rush is handing it

897
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: to him right.

898
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 2: And I think fans are watching that saying, oh boy,

899
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 2: nothing's changed on the old line. Well maybe the D

900
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 2: line is just that good.

901
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: I think the poon of Ford makes a big difference

902
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,520
Speaker 1: in there day Kwon Jones, Phillips even practicing. He hasn't

903
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 1: even stepped out there. And I'll say this, when Jordan

904
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: Phillips does get out there, you know he's gonna he's

905
00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna be like making up for lost time. He's just

906
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: that kind of guy. So yeah, I'm I was really

907
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: optimistic in twenty twenty two, no question about it, because

908
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: of the way twenty twenty one ended, and I fell

909
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 1: into that kind of hype training recency bias myself. But

910
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 1: man oh man, this crew I feel really good about

911
00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:30,800
Speaker 1: going into this season. With these guys, It's gonna be

912
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: a much more difficult schedule than last year's was. But

913
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any mistake. The powers that be

914
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: think this team's gonna be pretty good. They've got like

915
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: four one o'clock games the entire season, and other than

916
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 1: that they are on prime time.

917
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:47,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

918
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: So it's I just I don't know what to tell

919
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,880
Speaker 1: you this. This is a team that's they got a

920
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,839
Speaker 1: lot of work to do, and they got some guys

921
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: you'd like to see. You like to see on back.

922
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,919
Speaker 1: He likes see Jordan Phillips back. They'd like to see

923
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 1: the corner discussion, cornerback discussion gets settled in, and the

924
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: middle linebacker. But none of that is none of that

925
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: is going to affect them in the first month of

926
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: the season. Win or lose games, you know, to win

927
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: or lose games, in my opinion.

928
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 2: Win or lose. You think none of it's gonna.

929
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:26,920
Speaker 1: Well, I don't think it'll help, cause it will be

930
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: a determining films will be a determining factor and where

931
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: they win or lose. I think this is a good

932
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,320
Speaker 1: team that can win against anybody the way it is constructed.

933
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: What you're saying now, yeah, I got sorry. We have

934
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: to step aside here because we've got some more stuff

935
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,239
Speaker 2: to discuss about day six of training camp. We'll do

936
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 2: that on the other side of the break. Also coming

937
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 2: up in our number two, one of the three holdovers

938
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 2: from last year's receivers Room, Khalil Shakir, will be joining

939
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 2: us here on the show about fifteen twenty minutes from now,

940
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 2: so stay tuned for that good conversation with the second

941
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,440
Speaker 2: year receiver. All coming your way next here on One

942
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: Bill's Live.

943
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 3: Stay tune.

944
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 2: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calllida Health. All right,

945
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:48,800
Speaker 2: welcome back to our number two Live at training Camp.

946
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you. Day number six come

947
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 2: and gone. Another beautiful sunny day here at Saint John

948
00:48:56,680 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: Fisher University for camp practice. If you were a Bills

949
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 2: fan they came out to practice the last two days,

950
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 2: you could not have asked for better weather, because I

951
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 2: do know it gets hot up on those aluminum bleachers.

952
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,840
Speaker 2: It's about ten degrees hotter up there, because sometimes I

953
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 2: sit up there to kind of get a bird's eye

954
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,799
Speaker 2: view of what's going on on the field, and it

955
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: is noticeably warmer up there on a sunny day like

956
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 2: this than it is down on the grass or the

957
00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 2: track next to the practice field. So I can't beat

958
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: it today though had a breeze high at seventy five.

959
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 2: I mean it's picturesque, perfect training camp spectator weather, and

960
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: I would I haven't looked, Steve. Did you check the

961
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 2: weather for Friday's return of Blue and Red?

962
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: I did not because the team? Can you do that

963
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: on your phone?

964
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 2: The team? The team will be back at the stadium

965
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 2: on Friday in their annual return of the Blue and

966
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 2: Red practice and scrimmage of sorts. They treat it like

967
00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 2: a game day.

968
00:49:59,200 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: Chance of ranging.

969
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?

970
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: When I have seventy five?

971
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 2: What time?

972
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 8: Uh?

973
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: Oh?

974
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: Good grief? Practice is at five point thirty pm. I

975
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 2: believe all the tickets have been distributed for that event

976
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:23,240
Speaker 2: and we'll be there watching it all and autograph seekers

977
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 2: will be hugging the rail when practice is over. But

978
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 2: it's usually a good time. People get more fired up

979
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 2: about the season because it feels like it's one step

980
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 2: closer because you're back in the stadium. You know, you're

981
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: kind of feeling the whole thing close.

982
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: Dude. After tomorrow there's an NFL game.

983
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 2: That's right, Hall of Fame game.

984
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, Jets, Browns.

985
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 2: Jets, Browns.

986
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: We'll get to see Kyle Wilson, Kyle, Kyle, what's a

987
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:54,520
Speaker 1: guy's name? Kyle and Zach Wills, Zack Wilson, Zach Wilson.

988
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,960
Speaker 2: Wow, Kyle Wilson. I think there was a Kyle Wilson

989
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,239
Speaker 2: that played in the league, but I don't even know

990
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: if he was a quarterback whatever, that's already forgotten. The

991
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 2: guy has already forgotten, not by you. You remembered him.

992
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the guy who played quarterback for the

993
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 1: Jets last year.

994
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, Zach Wilson, Zach Wilson. Yeah, So looking forward to that.

995
00:51:17,080 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 2: Just for housekeeping purposes, the team has the day off tomorrow,

996
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: so they went two days in a row in pads,

997
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 2: presumably because they knew they had a day off tomorrow

998
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: to give the players bodies a rest. Then back at

999
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: it Thursday. That'll presumably be in shells or maybe even helmets.

1000
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: Knowing Friday there's probably a good chance to put the

1001
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 2: pads on again. Knowing they want a scrimmage like game

1002
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 2: day like atmosphere, this is the exercise. Sean McDermott has

1003
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 2: turned the Return of the Blue and Red scrimmage like

1004
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 2: practice back at the stadium into a scrimmage of sorts,

1005
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:55,799
Speaker 2: but it's also like a dress rehearsal for a game day.

1006
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 2: A lot of new players on the roster, how do

1007
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,919
Speaker 2: we handle game day? Well, you're gonna find out because

1008
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 2: you're gonna run through it soup to nuts on Friday.

1009
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: Because that's what Sean McDermott does with his team. He

1010
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,560
Speaker 2: hasn't them prepared for every minute detail of what preparation

1011
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,320
Speaker 2: for a game each week is like, right up until

1012
00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 2: knowing what game day morning or afternoon is like, it's.

1013
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: Not by coincidence that they're having this game on Saturday

1014
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: at one pm. It's you know, it's deliberate. They can

1015
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: they can, you know, right, so they can?

1016
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 2: Well, the Blue and Red is five thirty pm on Friday.

1017
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking about, Yeah, the first preseason, the first preseason

1018
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:37,760
Speaker 1: first to one o'clock on a Saturday, not a Sunday.

1019
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: But and it's the same idea. They get everything exactly

1020
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: the way you're gonna you can run through it. And

1021
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 1: then we were looking at the schedule. They only have

1022
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,040
Speaker 1: five one o'clock games the entire season out of a

1023
00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: seventeen game schedule. Everything else is four to twenty five,

1024
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: eight twenty eight, fifteen, nine thirty am and Jackson with

1025
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 1: Jacksonville in London. I mean, this is not a routine

1026
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:05,319
Speaker 1: schedule any stretch of the imagination, so it's kind of it. Yeah,

1027
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: I hope they can remember what it's like to play

1028
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 1: one o'clock on Sunday.

1029
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:09,479
Speaker 2: Well.

1030
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:09,759
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1031
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 2: More importantly, you just want to make sure they're ready

1032
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: to play some of the pretty formidable teams they're going

1033
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 2: to be going up against this season. We'll be talking

1034
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: about this on our podcast this week, Builds by the Numbers,

1035
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 2: just how daunting the schedule is, not only in terms

1036
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 2: of the traditional measuring sticks, which is last year's opponents

1037
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: collective record and winning percentage, but some of the advanced

1038
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 2: analytics as well are saying much the same thing. And

1039
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 2: we'll go over that and Builds by the Numbers our

1040
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 2: weekly podcast, which will be out later this week. We'll

1041
00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,880
Speaker 2: be sure to update you as to when that happens.

1042
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 2: But Steve and I kind of agree that week eleven

1043
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: to sixteen that appears, at least on the surface to

1044
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 2: be the gauntlet.

1045
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 1: You run to the Jets and then the Eagles, then

1046
00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: you get a bye week, then it's the Chiefs, the Cowboys,

1047
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: and the Chargers.

1048
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:03,839
Speaker 2: That's a run.

1049
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: That's a rough stretch. Then you get the Patriots and

1050
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 1: the end again once again this season in with the Dolphins.

1051
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: In the last few years, they've done that a lot.

1052
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 1: So although last year was the playoff game that was

1053
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: that's a tough stretch. Eleven through sixteen in particular, those

1054
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 1: six games or I'm sorry, five games because of the

1055
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: bye week, that's a tough stretch.

1056
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: It's a good thing. There's a buye in there because

1057
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: I think it gives.

1058
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:30,400
Speaker 1: You a break.

1059
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, like not only because the Jets and the

1060
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 2: Eagles back to back. I think those are going to

1061
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:40,479
Speaker 2: be two deceptively physical games. I don't know if people

1062
00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 2: are thinking that way, but I expect those two games

1063
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 2: to be rather physical, knowing how much Philly likes to

1064
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 2: run the football, and then the Jets with their defense,

1065
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,720
Speaker 2: they play a physical style. You know, it's just Robert

1066
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 2: Sala's right. Those are going to be very two very

1067
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 2: physical games. So to have that bye week to kind

1068
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 2: of rest up and give your coaches more time to

1069
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 2: prepare for the Chiefs, I think is a very very

1070
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:02,879
Speaker 2: good thing.

1071
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,560
Speaker 1: Then you get the week before Chris the week before Christmas,

1072
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 1: December seventeenth game, you're Dalla. You're at home against Dallas,

1073
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: and then you got to go all the way to

1074
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: all the way to Lost, LA to play the Chargers.

1075
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: That's not an easy trip, especially late in the season.

1076
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: It's you get a break. Well, you don't get a

1077
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: break because you're going Western. It's gonna be playing You're

1078
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: gonna be playing eleven pm Eastern.

1079
00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean two years that's not.

1080
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: Right, eight pm Eastern. So it's a late night game.

1081
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: Oh bro, you get those games eight pm on Sunday.

1082
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: Three hours the game gets over to eleven, You get

1083
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: off the field eleven fifteen, eleven thirty, flying back and

1084
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: get back wheels up if you can, and not in La.

1085
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: But you get out two hours after the game ends.

1086
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:50,800
Speaker 1: So it's eleven ten, So it's like one ten am

1087
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: when you get to the airplane, five hour flight back.

1088
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: Get back about six in the morning, and then you

1089
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,239
Speaker 2: got to get your work week started, right, I do

1090
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: the show with you.

1091
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll be long asleep. I'll be long asleep.

1092
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:12,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's something that should not be lost on

1093
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,399
Speaker 2: fans either. Their two longest road trips are in Week

1094
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 2: fourteen and Week sixteen. Now Janas City in LA.

1095
00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 1: They get the extra day this year because the LA

1096
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: Chargers games the twenty third Christmas Eve Eve, and then

1097
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: the next game is not until the thirty first, so

1098
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,439
Speaker 1: you get eight days in between there, which is which

1099
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 1: is a plus. So that'll help them.

1100
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 2: Well the heck, yeah, you're losing the twenty third, spend

1101
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 2: it traveling, it'll go into the twenty fourth.

1102
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly.

1103
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,560
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean it will already be Christmas Eve

1104
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,000
Speaker 2: morning by the time we get back from that trip.

1105
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,439
Speaker 2: So yeah, that is the gauntlet. I don't I mean, look,

1106
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,359
Speaker 2: we've said that before. I remember a couple of years

1107
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 2: ago we were talking about the gauntlet of the Bill's

1108
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 2: schedule and then they went like three and one in

1109
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: the stretch and we're like, wow, that was a lot

1110
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: easier we thought it was gonna be.

1111
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: You know, it was never easy, but yeah, and it's

1112
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 1: hard to keep track because you get you and I

1113
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 1: both do. You get immersed into the season and you

1114
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: don't go back and look at eleven through sixteen. You

1115
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,640
Speaker 1: know where these five games are going to be like,

1116
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,439
Speaker 1: because in there you're going to say, wow, the Jets

1117
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: aren't what we thought they were, or the Eagles aren't

1118
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:15,839
Speaker 1: what we thought they were, you know that kind of thing.

1119
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: And we're not the team we thought we were. We

1120
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,080
Speaker 1: are the team we thought we were. You know, everything

1121
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,080
Speaker 1: changes when you get into the season. You're two months

1122
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: into the season and a bunch of teams that you

1123
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: thought were really good stink and vice versa.

1124
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, all of a sudden, maybe Denver's some juggernaut that

1125
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:32,160
Speaker 2: you've got to play in Week ten.

1126
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: That's right, that's right. You know the bank joke, Burrow

1127
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: pops a calf muscle and they they're playing you with

1128
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, Charlie sixpack. You know, So who knows because

1129
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,880
Speaker 1: everything changes, So it's hard from this end of the schedule.

1130
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: It's what you do. You know, you kind of evaluate

1131
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: what you know about them at this point, and everybody

1132
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 1: looks good at this point. Everybody's zero oh and oh

1133
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: at this point let's go, you know, but when it happens,

1134
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: we can rarely go back and look at the schedule

1135
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 1: just changes so much your perception of it as a

1136
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 1: season roule.

1137
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 2: This is where we roll out the line. It's a

1138
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 2: week to week link. We are going to transition now though,

1139
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 2: to our player guest for today's show, it is second

1140
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 2: year wide receiver Khalil Shakir, who wants it known that

1141
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 2: there's something about his name that needs to be corrected.

1142
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 2: Let's go to Khalil's Khalil Shakir now, all right, So

1143
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 2: first things first, a public service announcement for the proper

1144
00:58:29,240 --> 00:58:32,280
Speaker 2: pronunciation of this man's first name. To my left, it

1145
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: is Khalil Shakir, not Khalil, So make a note of it,

1146
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: Bill's fans, because we want to get it right. You know,

1147
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,840
Speaker 2: nobody wants their first name to be mispronounced. So we're

1148
00:58:41,840 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 2: here public service announcement here on one Bill's Live. Welcome in,

1149
00:58:45,320 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: good to see you, Thanks for having.

1150
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: The real question is does Josh know how to say it?

1151
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1152
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, find you in.

1153
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 9: A crowd, that's that's right, you have you have a

1154
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,439
Speaker 9: nickname that's something even shorter than that, or a couple

1155
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 9: of guys been calling me lil lately. Just the last guys.

1156
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 2: Are always shortening it up, and we know that. Okay,

1157
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:09,760
Speaker 2: Year two coming in here. How much of a atmospheric

1158
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 2: change is it for you walking into training camp this

1159
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: summer compared to being a wet behind the years rookie last.

1160
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 9: Year, Yeah, I would just say, I mean the being

1161
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 9: familiar with everything, you know, when we pulled up the

1162
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 9: first day and walked into the dorms and everything was like, man,

1163
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 9: I swear I was just here, you know. So that

1164
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 9: that is definitely the main thing walking out on the field.

1165
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 9: And last year first walking out here and seeing how many,

1166
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 9: how much of Bill's mafia shows up for these practices

1167
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 9: and how supportive they are. Last year, I was like, wow,

1168
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 9: this is a practice, you know. And so knowing all

1169
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:44,160
Speaker 9: those things going into this second year made made the

1170
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 9: nerves kind of calmed down just a little bit. I

1171
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 9: still I still get jitters every time I walk out there,

1172
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:49,880
Speaker 9: but that's good.

1173
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,600
Speaker 2: You want that energy, that nervous energy. That's good.

1174
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,520
Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit something too, because you can

1175
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: look around now at the guys coming like Kinkaid and

1176
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: all these other guys that are coming in, the brand

1177
00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: new guys, and you say, yeah, you know what, right,

1178
01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 1: that's an enormous difference.

1179
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, Oh yeah, definitely.

1180
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 9: I Mean I was talking to Jay Short the other

1181
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 9: day and he was just saying the same thing. He's like, yeah, man,

1182
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 9: I got some Jitters. I'm like, man, you're not the

1183
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 9: only one you know, just because just because you're a rookie.

1184
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 9: I'm year two. I'm sure some year three, year four

1185
01:00:15,840 --> 01:00:17,640
Speaker 9: guys still get that feeling when they walk out there.

1186
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 9: That is you know that the heart just gets going,

1187
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:21,160
Speaker 9: you know, and it is what it is.

1188
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: Steve and I have mentioned this a few times. There's

1189
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,439
Speaker 2: been some turnover in your position room. It's basically you,

1190
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 2: Stefan and Gabe as the only guys back from last

1191
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:36,320
Speaker 2: year's squad. Do you feel a sense of responsibility to

1192
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,720
Speaker 2: Josh knowing he has a comfort level with you, Stefan

1193
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 2: and Gabe, He's got to learn those other guys. How

1194
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 2: much of a responsibility do you put on yourself to

1195
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 2: convince him, hey, we're good. You can rely on me

1196
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: because we have time together.

1197
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, I think that's a huge definitely making

1198
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 9: sure that he knows that I'm ready to take that

1199
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 9: next step. But at the same time, I still got

1200
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,919
Speaker 9: to do my every I got to pay my dues

1201
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 9: every day and come out here and make sure that

1202
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 9: I make plays, I make big plays, try and stand

1203
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 9: out very mellow through camp so far. So I definitely

1204
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 9: got to pick it up and let them know that

1205
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 9: I'm I'm here for a reason and I'm here to

1206
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 9: take that next step. And with that also is bringing

1207
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 9: those other guys along and getting them to know the

1208
01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 9: playbook and all the installs and everything, because when we

1209
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,640
Speaker 9: get to rotating and things like that, everybody knows their responsibility.

1210
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 9: So that way, Josh, just the receiver room as a whole.

1211
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:30,240
Speaker 1: Give us an idea too, because it's a big deal

1212
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: your off season. It's your first one ever. Right, You're

1213
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 1: not going to school, you you're a pro athlete. How

1214
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: do you feel like you handled your off season for

1215
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 1: the first time knowing you know you got to come back.

1216
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: You did all the OTAs and all of that stuff,

1217
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 1: but now you got to kind of do it yourself right.

1218
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: You got to find your spot, find your workout partners,

1219
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,680
Speaker 1: find a place to live, get your whole off the

1220
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: field world up and run and so they can support

1221
01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: you during the season. How you feel like that went

1222
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: for your first off season?

1223
01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, it went really well.

1224
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 9: I'm more of a guy that the smaller the training group,

1225
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 9: the better I feel like it is.

1226
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 7: I'm more of a one on one guy.

1227
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:08,680
Speaker 9: For those who don't know, I was down in South

1228
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,840
Speaker 9: Carolina training with uh Eric molds.

1229
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:13,400
Speaker 7: Yeah, the whole both both times.

1230
01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:15,439
Speaker 9: Even when we had this month off right before training camp,

1231
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,280
Speaker 9: I was down there training with him and just making

1232
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,240
Speaker 9: sure not only was he making sure that I was

1233
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 9: ready to go for this upcoming season. I mean he's

1234
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 9: a he's a mental coach as well, you know, like

1235
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,400
Speaker 9: he's making sure that, you know, he says the right

1236
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 9: things to me every single day. He'll shoot me a

1237
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 9: text every now and then, just making sure that I'm

1238
01:02:31,520 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 9: I'm keeping my head down and staying in it and

1239
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 9: staying in the grind. So I think I handled it

1240
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 9: pretty well, and I think with his help, he's definitely

1241
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 9: helped me, you know, up my game.

1242
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 2: Eric is a very respected player by Bills fans, even now,

1243
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 2: you know, almost fifteen years after fifteen, almost twenty years

1244
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 2: after he finished his career in Buffalo. He's he's a

1245
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,280
Speaker 2: little bit bigger body than he He was a six

1246
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 2: to two, like two ten guy, and he was a rock.

1247
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: He still is, yeah, And I mean he started his

1248
01:02:58,720 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 2: career when Steve was finishing.

1249
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 1: Is Eric had the unfortunate, you know, career path of

1250
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 1: getting put on the Bills when.

1251
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: They didn't have a quarterback.

1252
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:10,280
Speaker 1: They didn't have a quarterback ever. Yeah, he got one

1253
01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: year Jim Kelly, then you know Todd Collins, and it

1254
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 1: was the rest of them.

1255
01:03:13,560 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 2: And but but my question for you concerning Eric is

1256
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 2: where where I mean, you mentioned the mentals, but is

1257
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 2: he helping you on releases? Is he helping you on footwork?

1258
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,959
Speaker 2: All of those things? Where did where did the main

1259
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:31,600
Speaker 2: focus lie as far as your priority list, what you

1260
01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 2: wanted him to help you with the most?

1261
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 9: I think the most thing was speed was speed work.

1262
01:03:36,560 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 9: I definitely feel like I'm pretty quick, but I feel

1263
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:42,440
Speaker 9: like my speed was kind of lacking a little bit.

1264
01:03:42,520 --> 01:03:44,560
Speaker 2: So are the man and forgive me, are you talking

1265
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: off the line or are you talking after the catch?

1266
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 7: I'm talking about both.

1267
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 9: I mean keep with you know, keeping up that speed

1268
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 9: the whole time, bursting off the line. I mean we

1269
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 9: worked on five yard bursts and winning that first five

1270
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 9: I would say almost every single day. Okay, So that

1271
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 9: was definitely a point of emphasis working with him, was

1272
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,160
Speaker 9: just working on that burst off the ball and making

1273
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,680
Speaker 9: sure that within that burst off the ball, making the

1274
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,640
Speaker 9: move on the dB and keeping that same speed, stacking

1275
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 9: the dB, all that type of stuff.

1276
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 7: We worked a lot.

1277
01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, that first five you're out of the slot. It's

1278
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,480
Speaker 1: really important because the first five yards is where you

1279
01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: can win right away, right And it's because that, guys,

1280
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:24,080
Speaker 1: you never really have a free release on out of

1281
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: the slot. So you really got to have that honed

1282
01:04:25,880 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: inn and a repertoire of moves that you can get

1283
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: loose with.

1284
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, no doubt.

1285
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 9: I mean that was like I said, we worked slot,

1286
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 9: we worked outside because obviously something that I make sure

1287
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:38,480
Speaker 9: that these the coaches know here is that my availability

1288
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,360
Speaker 9: in the slide and outside as well. So I was

1289
01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:43,280
Speaker 9: still continuing to work outside. I wasn't just sticking to

1290
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 9: one thing and had tunnel vision on one thing.

1291
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 7: Was still working everything as a whole.

1292
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 2: Today, it seems like the defense is not shy about

1293
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: calling up any blitz. What they're getting all in the

1294
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,840
Speaker 2: quarterbacks kitchen. And if Josh didn't have to throw that

1295
01:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 2: ball off his back foot, that's a touchdown on the

1296
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 2: def posts. But he couldn't muscle it all the way

1297
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 2: out to you because you had the route one. But

1298
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 2: then you had to wait.

1299
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:06,120
Speaker 1: On the ball.

1300
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 2: I was hoping you'd be able to pull that thing down.

1301
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 2: What do you what are you seeing in terms of

1302
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,440
Speaker 2: a play like that, when you know the ball's not

1303
01:05:14,480 --> 01:05:16,439
Speaker 2: gonna get to me, I got to adjust, Like what's

1304
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: kind of rolling through your head because you know the

1305
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 2: coverage is closing now because you got to wait on

1306
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 2: the ball. I'm just curious as to the mindset when

1307
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 2: you have to make those adjustments mid play.

1308
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean, obviously a big part of playing receiver

1309
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 9: is adjusting to the ball. And obviously I'm very very

1310
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 9: hard on me. I'm I'm my biggest critic. I should

1311
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 9: have came down with that at the end of the

1312
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,200
Speaker 9: day when I'm when I see, you know, we call

1313
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,640
Speaker 9: that play and that route is there, and as I'm

1314
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 9: running full speed, I'm kind of looking at the.

1315
01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 7: Coverage as a whole.

1316
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 3: Man.

1317
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 9: I mean, you can't do nothing but smile when it

1318
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 9: works out that way, right, you know, and went down there.

1319
01:05:48,360 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 9: Cam made a great play coming coming from behind me

1320
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 9: and getting his hand in there. So, like I said, man,

1321
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 9: sometimes it doesn't always work out at the end of

1322
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 9: the days, pick your head up and Endorse always preaches,

1323
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:01,480
Speaker 9: you know, pick your head up and keep going.

1324
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 7: Next play mentality, So.

1325
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,920
Speaker 1: Give us an idea. This is day two of shoulder

1326
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: pads just articulate for people listening how that changes things.

1327
01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 9: I mean, it's it's as far as you know, just

1328
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 9: on our bodies. You know, we're out here running around

1329
01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 9: for two hours straight. You know, first day is just

1330
01:06:20,880 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 9: jerseys and helmets. But when you throw those pads on

1331
01:06:23,600 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 9: day by day, you get more and more sore, you know,

1332
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 9: and you don't even necessarily really have to hit the

1333
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 9: ground every time. It's just football is a very physical,

1334
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 9: hard sport to do, so when we're out here playing

1335
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,320
Speaker 9: and running around every single day, it's definitely you know,

1336
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 9: waising on our body a little bit. But at the

1337
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 9: end of the day, they also give us more than

1338
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 9: enough time to get in there, whether that's cold tub,

1339
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,200
Speaker 9: hot tub, do treatment with the trainers. We got more

1340
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 9: than enough time throughout the day to get that done

1341
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 9: as well. So making sure that we have to do

1342
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:54,640
Speaker 9: our part as professionals and stay on top of that.

1343
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 2: I don't know if you pay attention to the stat

1344
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 2: nerds it like Pro Football Focus PFF, but they had

1345
01:07:00,360 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 2: you with the highest separation rate among NFL rookies last

1346
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 2: year almost fifty percent. Now you're working with Eric Molds

1347
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 2: on maintaining your speed through a stem, a route stem

1348
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 2: or something. Logic for me would say, if you're better

1349
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 2: at that, based on the work you put in with

1350
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 2: Eric down South, that rate's probably going up. I mean,

1351
01:07:24,560 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: i know your time on the field probably wasn't what

1352
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 2: you wanted it to be, probably wanted to contribute more

1353
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 2: than you were allowed to. But I'm expecting your time

1354
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 2: on the field to go up considerably this year. Where

1355
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 2: do you think you can take you know, your game

1356
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 2: here in year two for this.

1357
01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:42,280
Speaker 7: Offense, I mean, it's just still a keep.

1358
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 9: I kind of have the same mentality, you know, is

1359
01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,440
Speaker 9: when I'm out there taking advantage of that opportunity whenever

1360
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,800
Speaker 9: my name is called to get out there and make

1361
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 9: a play, I got to do everything. I kind of

1362
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 9: make sure I make that play. And I'm I completely

1363
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 9: understand this is the NFL. You're not gonna win every

1364
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 9: single time, but more more wins and losses definitely, you know,

1365
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 9: makes that I keep my that neutral mindset, making sure

1366
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:04,479
Speaker 9: that when I go out there, there's I'm not riding

1367
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 9: the highs, I'm not riding the lows, you know, making

1368
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 9: sure that I get out there, you know, and and

1369
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 9: more and do more than just.

1370
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:10,479
Speaker 7: Just my job.

1371
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 9: As far as making sure that when I walk off

1372
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:13,800
Speaker 9: the field that everybody's happy with.

1373
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:14,240
Speaker 7: What I'm doing.

1374
01:08:14,680 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: So you got this new locker room, new players on

1375
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,320
Speaker 1: the team, and you know, ninety man roster too. How

1376
01:08:19,439 --> 01:08:22,479
Speaker 1: is this How is this year in the locker room

1377
01:08:22,479 --> 01:08:24,559
Speaker 1: and the atmosphere different than last year?

1378
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 9: I mean, I guess the biggest thing is is just

1379
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 9: all the new faces. I mean you mentioned it earlier,

1380
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,800
Speaker 9: whole new wide receiver room and you know, I tell

1381
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 9: just talking to the rookies like that's the Sometimes the

1382
01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 9: reality of the business is like you might come in

1383
01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:40,200
Speaker 9: one day and see one face in the next day. Shoot,

1384
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:41,840
Speaker 9: you know it's a new face, you know. So it's

1385
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 9: like that's just a part of the game. It's part

1386
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,920
Speaker 9: of the business. It's nothing to sit here and let

1387
01:08:45,960 --> 01:08:48,960
Speaker 9: it weigh you down and weigh on your mental It's

1388
01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 9: more of just as long as you.

1389
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 7: Show up every single day and do your job, you'll

1390
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 7: be all right.

1391
01:08:52,840 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 9: But I would say there's definitely a lot of new

1392
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:58,040
Speaker 9: faces that have also benefited me as well. Having Hardy

1393
01:08:58,760 --> 01:09:01,760
Speaker 9: watching him work and the way he creates separation that

1394
01:09:01,840 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 9: helps me with when I'm in there my game. Trent

1395
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:07,639
Speaker 9: watching the way he gets open as well. Now, watching

1396
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:09,759
Speaker 9: a lot of the new faces is also good because

1397
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 9: you learn so much just from just from observing.

1398
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,639
Speaker 2: I mean the last one for me, You guys also

1399
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: have a tight end that's working inside an awful lot

1400
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,600
Speaker 2: in the rookie coincaid, knowing he's going to probably be

1401
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 2: working the middle of the field at times while you

1402
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: are as well. How what is that dynamic? Like, I mean,

1403
01:09:30,200 --> 01:09:33,000
Speaker 2: the route concept is the route concept, but there are

1404
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: adjustments and options and routes as well. What do you

1405
01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 2: have to be mindful of with the tight end when

1406
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 2: maybe he's slot left and you're slot right? Like, what

1407
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,920
Speaker 2: is the dynamic there that you have to kind of

1408
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 2: be aware of out there?

1409
01:09:46,080 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I guess it just depends on what

1410
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:48,479
Speaker 7: what play is called.

1411
01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:51,519
Speaker 9: When there is you know, obviously our coaches call plays

1412
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 9: that put us in the best position to go out

1413
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,519
Speaker 9: there and win. There's there's never really going to be

1414
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 9: an issue to where I'm thinking like, oh, I might

1415
01:09:57,680 --> 01:09:59,840
Speaker 9: have to, you know, a slow down here because of

1416
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 9: what he's doing. Everything that our car that we have

1417
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 9: when we go out there and whatever they're calling, there's

1418
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 9: no there's gonna be.

1419
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:09,760
Speaker 2: No is a proper space and all that is given.

1420
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:11,719
Speaker 9: Right and that, and that's what's expected as well. I'm

1421
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,920
Speaker 9: glad you mentioned that is the spacing. I mean, if

1422
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:15,680
Speaker 9: if he has a certain round and I have a

1423
01:10:15,720 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 9: certain route and we end up in the same spot,

1424
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:20,240
Speaker 9: somebody messed up, you know, So does you all have

1425
01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,840
Speaker 9: your landmarks exactly exactly? So just making sure that we

1426
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 9: all know what we're doing we get out there.

1427
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 3: It's as simple as that.

1428
01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:29,120
Speaker 1: So last year you got drafted by the Super Bowl

1429
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,720
Speaker 1: favorite Buffalo Bills. This year you come back and it's

1430
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,200
Speaker 1: the oh yeah, the Bills are also playing in this

1431
01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:39,160
Speaker 1: league too, you know, totally different expectations from around the country.

1432
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 1: You guys up for that. What's the conversation in the

1433
01:10:43,320 --> 01:10:45,840
Speaker 1: locker room about the expectations. Everybody's kind of looking over

1434
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:48,160
Speaker 1: you at they love the Jets, they love the Dolphins,

1435
01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: they love Cincinnati, love the Chiefs, and the Bills are

1436
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: kind of an after that. How does that change things

1437
01:10:52,760 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 1: if at all for you guys.

1438
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,479
Speaker 7: I mean, we try not to pay attention to the

1439
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 7: outside noise.

1440
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,439
Speaker 9: We're a very you know, tunnel vision team as far

1441
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 9: as keeping it within the building and knowing what we

1442
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,720
Speaker 9: have in there. Knowing that if we show up every

1443
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 9: single day and we're there for that day, you know,

1444
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 9: we say be here now, be in the present. You

1445
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:11,720
Speaker 9: got to put one foot in the in front of

1446
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,120
Speaker 9: the other to take that take that first step. So

1447
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 9: it's just you know, being here now. We just got

1448
01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 9: done with with practice six and you know, have an

1449
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 9: off day tomorrow, but you know practice number seven that's

1450
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 9: up next, you know, then practice number eight and just

1451
01:11:26,040 --> 01:11:27,960
Speaker 9: keep you know, building from there day by day.

1452
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,840
Speaker 2: Brick by brick, Kalil, thanks for the time. We appreciate it.

1453
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 2: Good luck this season. Please stay healthy all right, Yes,

1454
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:38,120
Speaker 2: I tell everybody you guys, stay healthy down there. All right.

1455
01:11:38,520 --> 01:11:40,479
Speaker 2: We're looking forward to seeing you out there on the

1456
01:11:40,479 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: field when the games count and they're not too distant future.

1457
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:46,320
Speaker 2: Kalil Shook here joining us here on one Bill's Live.

1458
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,720
Speaker 2: We'll take a break. You're back in a couple of

1459
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:55,000
Speaker 2: state to all right back here at Saint John Fisher University,

1460
01:11:55,200 --> 01:12:00,640
Speaker 2: Chris Brown, Steve Tasker Training Camp, day six, and we

1461
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,840
Speaker 2: want to get to the phones. Haven't been talking on

1462
01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:05,519
Speaker 2: the phones very much the last few days, but we

1463
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:07,600
Speaker 2: do want to go there for a second because I

1464
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 2: got some fans that have some questions and we'll do

1465
01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:12,599
Speaker 2: our best to answer them. And leading us off today

1466
01:12:12,680 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 2: is Judy and Buffalo. What do you have for us? Judy?

1467
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, as good as train Edmunds might have been, I

1468
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 4: always thought he was deficient in covering the short pass.

1469
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:30,000
Speaker 4: Now of the middle linebacker prospects, is there somebody who

1470
01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:34,200
Speaker 4: stands out who can stuff the run and also cover

1471
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:38,440
Speaker 4: the short pass, because I think that's the main ingredient

1472
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,479
Speaker 4: that is missing on this defense.

1473
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, happy to answer that for you, Judy. I know

1474
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:50,040
Speaker 2: Steve has his guy that he likes. I've been very

1475
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: encouraged by what we've seen from Tyrrel Dodson. Coverage ability

1476
01:12:55,920 --> 01:13:00,800
Speaker 2: was the concern about his overall skill set, but it's

1477
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,040
Speaker 2: very clear to me that he has worked on that

1478
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: a lot this past offseason, because he looks decidedly better

1479
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:12,560
Speaker 2: in coverage thus far in training camp, both in pads

1480
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,759
Speaker 2: and out of pads, and I think he is capable

1481
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 2: of covering in the short areas. Carrying players down to

1482
01:13:19,200 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: a safety might be a different story, but we're gonna

1483
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:25,400
Speaker 2: need more evidence to be sure of that. And as

1484
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:28,080
Speaker 2: we said at the top of the show, I don't

1485
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:32,280
Speaker 2: know that anybody's definitively separated themselves in this competition. But

1486
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 2: there is a possibility that the candidate pool has been

1487
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 2: reduced from three to two, with the two players still

1488
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:44,639
Speaker 2: in the competition being Dodson and Bernard. That's not locked

1489
01:13:44,680 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 2: in stone. We're just going based off what we saw

1490
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:50,639
Speaker 2: on the field today. It was technically Bailen Specter's turn

1491
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,400
Speaker 2: to get reps with the starters, and he did not.

1492
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:57,600
Speaker 2: It was Dodson today after it was Bernard yesterday. So

1493
01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 2: we'll have to see if something is afoot there based

1494
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,719
Speaker 2: on how the next practice looks.

1495
01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:05,840
Speaker 1: And as for covering the short pass, yeah, don't it's

1496
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 1: too early to tell, Judy. There's no way to know

1497
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: if they like one guy over another for that or

1498
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: if or if that's always going to look that way

1499
01:14:16,040 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: under this defensive philosophy, and most defense will tell you

1500
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:20,920
Speaker 1: they keep a lid on the defense. That means they

1501
01:14:21,040 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 1: keep everything in front of them, which means if they

1502
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: run the offense runs deep, they got to back out

1503
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: of there. Most defenses will concede the short pass before

1504
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 1: the long pass, so that's where most offenses they have

1505
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,800
Speaker 1: to take the check down. If they're taking the check down.

1506
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 1: Your defense is actually playing a little better than you

1507
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: might give it credit for. So, but I get it.

1508
01:14:42,160 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: It's frustrating to see a team dink and dunk their

1509
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 1: way down the field because it looks too easy, But

1510
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: it's because they're taking the big chunk plays away and

1511
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: it's not as easy it looks as it looks. And

1512
01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: the philosophy is you got to make them go twelve

1513
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:00,719
Speaker 1: or thirteen mistake free plays to get to the end zone,

1514
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 1: and a lot of teams just turn't up to it.

1515
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 1: So I think that'll probably probably be a concern going

1516
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,519
Speaker 1: forward as well as it has been, because I think

1517
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,360
Speaker 1: that's a little bit of what you're looking at with

1518
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: the way offense is played in the NFL. But I

1519
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: get it. You want a guy that can cover. We'll

1520
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:19,760
Speaker 1: see if they can find one.

1521
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's still a lot of time for that to

1522
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 2: be sorted out, but we'll keep our eye on it

1523
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:25,880
Speaker 2: to see if in fact the candidate pool has been

1524
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 2: reduced from three to two. With the coming days of practice.

1525
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 2: We do turn our attention now to the post practice

1526
01:15:34,240 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 2: podium and standing there after practice or sitting there, I

1527
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 2: should say, was one Damien Harris, someone we have not

1528
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 2: heard from yet through the course of training camp. So

1529
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: let's hear from number twenty two in the running back

1530
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 2: stable for the Bills. Here's Damien Harris.

1531
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 10: I know you've got a chance to be around camp,

1532
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:59,320
Speaker 10: around out flow to be a wait wait, I mean

1533
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 10: deal with the Bill what what what is that like?

1534
01:16:01,479 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: Did you look like that? You know?

1535
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:04,759
Speaker 3: I feel great.

1536
01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 8: You know, this is a great organization as a great team,

1537
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:12,880
Speaker 8: great coaches, great teammates. You know, I feel welcomed here.

1538
01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:15,960
Speaker 8: I feel like I fit in here. You know, the

1539
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:18,840
Speaker 8: city of Buffalo has definitely welcomed me with open arms,

1540
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 8: as so has the team. So you know, I feel

1541
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:24,720
Speaker 8: really comfortable. You know, camp has been great. It's being

1542
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 8: great to get out here to compete and you know,

1543
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 8: just come out here and put our best foot forwards

1544
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 8: every day. So you know, it's been great and I'm

1545
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 8: just looking forward to progressing each and every day.

1546
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:40,160
Speaker 3: You know, you need a replication for me, especially.

1547
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 2: Towards the universally.

1548
01:16:49,400 --> 01:16:51,080
Speaker 10: You feel like you had to win a few people

1549
01:16:51,120 --> 01:16:52,639
Speaker 10: over in the fan base.

1550
01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:54,440
Speaker 2: They remember everything.

1551
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 4: You know.

1552
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 8: It's funny because you know, all I've heard since I

1553
01:16:58,439 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 8: got here, uh, especially from the fans is you know,

1554
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,599
Speaker 8: We're glad you're running with us instead of against us.

1555
01:17:03,640 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 8: So you know, it was good that I didn't really

1556
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:07,759
Speaker 8: I didn't feel like I had.

1557
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 3: To to do too much. You know.

1558
01:17:09,400 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 8: I feel like once I once I signed, everybody was

1559
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:12,439
Speaker 8: kind of happy.

1560
01:17:12,479 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 3: Everybody was a.

1561
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,320
Speaker 8: Little relieved, you know. So it was good, like I said,

1562
01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 8: just to be welcome with open arms. You know, I

1563
01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 8: know this is an incredible fan base, you know, the

1564
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,719
Speaker 8: best fans in the NFL. So you know, I'm glad

1565
01:17:22,720 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 8: to have them chair form me instead of against me.

1566
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 3: Now, you know, one of those.

1567
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 2: Games that you were kind of always remember because of

1568
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:32,400
Speaker 2: your impact.

1569
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 8: You know, it's funny that you said that because I

1570
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 8: vividly remember every game against the Bills. You know, my

1571
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 8: first touchdown in my career was in high Mark Stadium,

1572
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 8: you know, like that game, like you said, another one

1573
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,400
Speaker 8: of the best games of my career was Injuette against

1574
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,240
Speaker 8: the Bills. So you know, I don't know what it was,

1575
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 8: but I felt like this organization always kind of brought

1576
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,240
Speaker 8: out the best of me as a competitor. So you know,

1577
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,320
Speaker 8: I feel like now that I'm here, you know, I

1578
01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 8: can still feel that pumping through me. So you know,

1579
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 8: I feel even more juiced up now. And I feel like,

1580
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:04,760
Speaker 8: you know, obviously being coached by these great coaches, my

1581
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:06,560
Speaker 8: teammates pushing me, you know, it's just pushing me to

1582
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 8: be my absolute best with.

1583
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:13,679
Speaker 2: Josh, watched it from Afar. What what was maybe something

1584
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 2: that you didn't expect having.

1585
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 8: Been around that couples just his personality, you know, you know,

1586
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 8: I always admire Josh.

1587
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:24,880
Speaker 3: Ironically, He's always been my favorite player.

1588
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 8: We actually have a mutual friend that we worked with

1589
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,400
Speaker 8: through our agency, and I would always text her whenever

1590
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 8: the Bills are playing, I'd be watching. I'd be like, dude,

1591
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 8: Josh is amazing, like in regards to what he was doing.

1592
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 8: So but just his personality, you know, his he's like

1593
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 8: a big kid, you know. I know you guys know that.

1594
01:18:42,439 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 8: You know, he loves to have fun. He's always got

1595
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 8: a smile on his face. I was actually having a

1596
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,640
Speaker 8: conversation with him yesterday, uh, during a walk through, and

1597
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:50,280
Speaker 8: he's just talking about I'm always in a good mood.

1598
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 8: I'm always happy. You know, nothing can nothing can break that,

1599
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 8: and I respect it, I admire and you know, it's

1600
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,720
Speaker 8: very infectious throughout anybody that comes in contact with him.

1601
01:18:59,720 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 8: So you know, it's been a it's been a I

1602
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,880
Speaker 8: wouldn't use the word surprise, but it's definitely been something

1603
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 8: that you know, has that I've liked to get.

1604
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 3: To know that side of him.

1605
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,559
Speaker 8: You know, obviously he's a great football player, and you

1606
01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,519
Speaker 8: know when we're between the white lines and he's very serious,

1607
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 8: he's about his business.

1608
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:15,720
Speaker 3: But you know, outside of that.

1609
01:19:15,680 --> 01:19:17,640
Speaker 8: He likes to keep everybody engaged, keep a smile on

1610
01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 8: everybody's face. And I think that that that kind of

1611
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:24,160
Speaker 8: personal personality and mentality, you know, it keeps guys uh

1612
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 8: fresh mentally and you know, hey, there's.

1613
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 3: My friend back there.

1614
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 8: It was it was going on, twin, what's up, palm?

1615
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:33,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just it keeps all of us.

1616
01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:35,559
Speaker 8: Like I said, you know that it clearly it rubs

1617
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 8: off on all of us, you know, so it keeps

1618
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 8: guys locked in and you know, having a good time

1619
01:19:39,680 --> 01:19:43,840
Speaker 8: during the during the dog day's account, just like Change.

1620
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 3: Company, Uh, good old Jimbo. Jim is a different cat,

1621
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 3: you know.

1622
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:53,519
Speaker 1: He you know, he.

1623
01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 8: Is a little bit more mild mannered, but he's very

1624
01:19:57,200 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 8: once you peel back the layers, you know, he's got

1625
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 8: that same person. You know, he likes to have fun.

1626
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:03,080
Speaker 8: You know, we all do. We're all in this together,

1627
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,200
Speaker 8: and we all love to just first and foremost come

1628
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 8: out and compete every single day. But you know, once

1629
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 8: we're off the field, you know, whether it's in the

1630
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 8: meeting rooms or whatever, we're watching film, you know, we

1631
01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,000
Speaker 8: cut up. We like to have fun, we like to laugh,

1632
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,600
Speaker 8: we joke. Obviously, with coach Skipping, there is laughs and

1633
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 8: smiles all day long. So you know, Jimbo, he's a

1634
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 8: great teammate, he's a great competitor, and you know, we're

1635
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,000
Speaker 8: lucky to have him out there on the field. And

1636
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 8: you know, I just love being able to be a

1637
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 8: part of that room. You know, we got a lot

1638
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 8: of great players in that room. So you know, all

1639
01:20:31,560 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 8: we do is go in there every day put our

1640
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:35,000
Speaker 8: best foot forward. That way we can be the best group.

1641
01:20:35,200 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 8: That way, we can do what we do what we

1642
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,240
Speaker 8: can to affect the offense the best way that we can.

1643
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:40,720
Speaker 7: And how much of the.

1644
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 11: Sense of the obligation do you feel as the script

1645
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,160
Speaker 11: you can prove this running game, which has been a

1646
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 11: short part of the reason you're heroes, obviously, do.

1647
01:20:51,479 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 3: You sense that you know that they need to get

1648
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 3: that better?

1649
01:20:54,680 --> 01:20:56,480
Speaker 11: Give me a collective mindset.

1650
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:57,080
Speaker 2: Up a bit again.

1651
01:20:58,240 --> 01:20:58,759
Speaker 3: I mean.

1652
01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:03,599
Speaker 8: To answer your question, yes, I mean I definitely feel

1653
01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,960
Speaker 8: that obligation personally as well as you know, all the

1654
01:21:05,960 --> 01:21:08,639
Speaker 8: guys in the room, and not because of a lack

1655
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:10,439
Speaker 8: thereof in the past, but just because that's what we're

1656
01:21:10,439 --> 01:21:12,479
Speaker 8: here to do. You know, as running backs, we've got

1657
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:13,720
Speaker 8: to do a lot of jobs. We got to block,

1658
01:21:13,760 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 8: we gotta run, we gotta catch, we gotta do all things.

1659
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:18,320
Speaker 8: So you know, whether he's running the ball, catching the ball,

1660
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:21,160
Speaker 8: running good routes, blocking and protecting Josh. You know, we

1661
01:21:21,240 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 8: take a lot of pride in that. So obviously we

1662
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 8: want to improve the run game, but we want to

1663
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 8: improve the past game. We want to improve the pass

1664
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 8: protection game. You know, however, we can positively affect the offense.

1665
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,040
Speaker 8: You know, that's what we're here to do, right, I mean.

1666
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:36,519
Speaker 3: Especially if you look at I don't give.

1667
01:21:36,479 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 2: One little offenses you've been part of that you can

1668
01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 2: compare to this one.

1669
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: You give Josh Allen real balance right with it would

1670
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: have with a really consistent or consistent running game.

1671
01:21:46,320 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 2: What does that generally mean?

1672
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:53,560
Speaker 8: Well, I mean it sounds like you answered your own question, but.

1673
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,080
Speaker 2: I suppose I I'll lead you in.

1674
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 8: A direction, right. I mean, I'll put it to you

1675
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:04,000
Speaker 8: this way. I would love to I say this personally.

1676
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 8: I know that we all feel this way, But I

1677
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 8: want to take as much of the burden off of

1678
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 8: Josh as I possibly can. You know, I want to

1679
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,040
Speaker 8: let him to be able to go out there and play, free,

1680
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 8: throw the ball, stay healthy, you know, do his thing.

1681
01:22:15,120 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 8: You know, obviously he's a freaking nature so he does

1682
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 8: a lot of things. But you know, if I can

1683
01:22:19,400 --> 01:22:21,160
Speaker 8: help take some hits off his shoulders and you know,

1684
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 8: keep his legs fresh, I'd love to do that, you

1685
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:24,920
Speaker 8: know what I mean. Whether that's him throwing me the

1686
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 8: ball of the backfield that way he doesn't get hit,

1687
01:22:26,680 --> 01:22:29,040
Speaker 8: I'd love to do that. Whether that's picking up blitzes

1688
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:32,000
Speaker 8: that way the pocket's clean and he doesn't.

1689
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 3: Have to get hit in the pocket, I'd love to

1690
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:33,600
Speaker 3: do that.

1691
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 8: So whatever, you know, we can do obviously to make

1692
01:22:36,400 --> 01:22:38,800
Speaker 8: the offense better. You know, obviously Josh is a big

1693
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,000
Speaker 8: part of that. So you know, we want to protect

1694
01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 8: him obviously and keep him at his best, along with

1695
01:22:45,160 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 8: obviously being in tune with the rest of the offense,

1696
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,080
Speaker 8: you know, the group and all.

1697
01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 10: The things you guys got to do, and we tend

1698
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 10: to look at the running back position.

1699
01:22:53,439 --> 01:22:54,720
Speaker 1: If you guys.

1700
01:22:54,479 --> 01:22:58,040
Speaker 2: Having certain skill sets that maybe works a bigger.

1701
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 3: Back and quick backfield.

1702
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,679
Speaker 10: Do you guys ever look at it that way?

1703
01:23:01,840 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 2: And if so, what specifically do you feel like is

1704
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 2: your best skill to bring to this running.

1705
01:23:07,840 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 8: Back To answer the first part of your question, it

1706
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:17,599
Speaker 8: doesn't matter. We know that everybody outside you know, no offense.

1707
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:20,439
Speaker 8: You guys obviously have a job to do, but everybody

1708
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 8: on the outside looking in, they have to label us.

1709
01:23:22,960 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 8: You know, this guy can do this, this guy does this,

1710
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 8: This guy brings us to the table. But at the

1711
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:29,559
Speaker 8: end of the day, Coach Skip he coaches us all

1712
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 8: the same, you know, Coach Dorset, he coaches us all

1713
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,800
Speaker 8: the same. Where it's run game, pass game, whatever. Some

1714
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,439
Speaker 8: of us are on special teams, you know, whatever the

1715
01:23:35,479 --> 01:23:37,600
Speaker 8: case may be, We're coached up all the same, you

1716
01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,439
Speaker 8: know what I mean. It's not like, oh, well, this

1717
01:23:39,479 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 8: guy does this, so he's gonna just practice this and

1718
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,240
Speaker 8: then these guys are just gonna practice that.

1719
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,439
Speaker 3: Like, that's not the way that it works.

1720
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,920
Speaker 8: You know, we all know that regardless of who's in

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01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:49,640
Speaker 8: the play, calls are probably.

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01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:50,679
Speaker 3: Gonna be the same, you know what I mean.

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01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 8: So we all have to just continue to craft our

1724
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 8: skill set that way we can be good in all

1725
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 8: phases of the offense. I mean, personally, I want to bring,

1726
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 8: you know, that physicality that I've played with my entire career.

1727
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,280
Speaker 8: I want to bring that joy, that infectious personality. You know,

1728
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,719
Speaker 8: I feel very fortunate to play this great game, and

1729
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 8: every time I step on the field, I feel so

1730
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 8: I feel God moving through me, you know, because you know,

1731
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 8: He didn't have to choose me to be in this position,

1732
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,479
Speaker 8: and you know, I just feel so blessed and so

1733
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 8: grateful to step on this field, especially with my teammates,

1734
01:24:23,200 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 8: with this great organization. So you know, I want to

1735
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:28,000
Speaker 8: bring that positivity to the team and just you know,

1736
01:24:28,160 --> 01:24:31,040
Speaker 8: let everybody feel that from me and set it flow

1737
01:24:31,080 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 8: through the whole team, you know, because at the end

1738
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,760
Speaker 8: of the day, you know, we're all so blessed and

1739
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 8: we're also fortunate to play this great game. So you know,

1740
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,080
Speaker 8: don't ever take a day for granted, because I don't know,

1741
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 8: you know, when my last player is going to be,

1742
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:41,400
Speaker 8: you know, when.

1743
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:42,240
Speaker 3: My last day is going to be.

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01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 8: But what I can promise you is that my last

1745
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 8: day will be meaningful because every time I step out here,

1746
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 8: you know, I leave it all out though, running guy.

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01:24:55,120 --> 01:24:59,479
Speaker 3: To keep going the.

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01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 10: Whole running that situation is just this whole undervalue and

1749
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 10: just what's going on.

1750
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,160
Speaker 2: You're in your life.

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01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 8: I mean I think that without saying I think you

1752
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 8: guys know how all the running backs feel. When this

1753
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:18,160
Speaker 8: conversation comes up. I choose not to speak on it

1754
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,240
Speaker 8: right now because at the end of the day, I

1755
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:22,479
Speaker 8: signed my name on the dotted line, and my my

1756
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:26,479
Speaker 8: ink is dry and I'm under contract, so me, you know,

1757
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,880
Speaker 8: talking about it's not going to affect my situation right now.

1758
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:30,760
Speaker 8: You know, I'm all about being in the present, being

1759
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:32,400
Speaker 8: where my feet are, and as of right now, you know,

1760
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 8: I'm a Buffalo Bill and that's that's what my focus

1761
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 8: is on.

1762
01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 3: It's just being a Buffalo Bill.

1763
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:43,000
Speaker 2: Okay, all right. That's Damian Harris addressing the media after practice,

1764
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 2: and not surprisingly, he was asked about the state of

1765
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 2: the running back market, and he didn't really elaborate on it.

1766
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,519
Speaker 2: He said, you probably know how all these running backs

1767
01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:55,639
Speaker 2: feel right around the league.

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01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what can you do, and there's not much

1769
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 1: you can do about it. From this end of it.

1770
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: They're certainly it's a change. It's changed vastly over the

1771
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 1: last what three or four five years, it's been very recent, yeah,

1772
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,879
Speaker 1: but it's been trending that way for a while, particularly

1773
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:14,960
Speaker 1: on the field, right.

1774
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:18,400
Speaker 2: And I think the biggest development this offseason was how

1775
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:22,920
Speaker 2: top of the market running backs got clipped. Because last

1776
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 2: year at this time, you had eleven running backs in

1777
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,439
Speaker 2: the league or twelve making eleven million dollars or more

1778
01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,519
Speaker 2: per season, and now you have six. That number got

1779
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:33,400
Speaker 2: chopped in half in one off season.

1780
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,080
Speaker 1: In all fairness to everybody involved, and this is after

1781
01:26:37,080 --> 01:26:40,240
Speaker 1: the Caps recovered. Yeah, in all fairness to everybody involved,

1782
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: they don't make decisions like that unless analytics.

1783
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: Have something to do with it.

1784
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,960
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and they're not chopping these guys because they

1785
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: don't want.

1786
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,759
Speaker 2: Some of those contracts were bad contracts from the jump.

1787
01:26:50,040 --> 01:26:52,880
Speaker 2: Sixteen million a year for Ezekiel Elliott, Well that was

1788
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:53,920
Speaker 2: not a good contract.

1789
01:26:53,960 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: What makes a bad contract A guy can't live up

1790
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 1: to it, right, So if you're playing that position, you

1791
01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:01,280
Speaker 1: can't live up to it, no matter what I mean,

1792
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: you know, Christian McCaffrey, all of that. So it's not

1793
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: going to change until some until the game changes around

1794
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: those guys.

1795
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,840
Speaker 2: They got or the player changes to fit the game better.

1796
01:27:10,920 --> 01:27:14,960
Speaker 1: That's right, That's right. I mean, would you rather would

1797
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:18,040
Speaker 1: you give elape money to a guy like Alvin Kamara

1798
01:27:18,240 --> 01:27:21,519
Speaker 1: in his prime, like when he's playing more more so

1799
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:25,040
Speaker 1: than Jonathan Taylor. I might?

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01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,040
Speaker 2: I think I would. Yeah, we have to take a break.

1801
01:27:28,080 --> 01:27:31,479
Speaker 2: One more segment to discuss this and other subjects concerning

1802
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 2: day six of training camp here at Saint John Fisher.

1803
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 2: Steve and I back in a moment on One Bills

1804
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:38,599
Speaker 2: Live presented by Cold of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio,

1805
01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 2: and here we are One Bill's Live. One final segment

1806
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,080
Speaker 2: here for day six of training camp at Saint John

1807
01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:55,679
Speaker 2: Fisher and I would say the defense had the better

1808
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:59,800
Speaker 2: of the play today. Steve pass rush was consistent to

1809
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 2: is getting hands in the passing lanes. Some interceptions won

1810
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 2: by tomorrow, Hamlin, Yeah.

1811
01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 3: So.

1812
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 2: They have more of the play today goes back and

1813
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:11,160
Speaker 2: forth thing.

1814
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, they it'll swing back to the offense at times.

1815
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: And and I think you know day two of pads

1816
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: guys getting out there, it's sloppy. Offense has to be perfect,

1817
01:28:24,640 --> 01:28:27,200
Speaker 1: defense can kind of react. Offense has to adjust to

1818
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:29,519
Speaker 1: the pads more than the defense does. There's a lot

1819
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 1: going into that, and it doesn't surprise me that the

1820
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: offense has struggled at times during the training camp.

1821
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:38,760
Speaker 2: So, you know, we got a show tomorrow, but it's

1822
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:40,799
Speaker 2: not going to be here. We'll be back in studio

1823
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,240
Speaker 2: at One Bill's Drive because the Bills are off tomorrow.

1824
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,519
Speaker 2: And on the show tomorrow we will have one Eric Molds,

1825
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 2: the guy that was tutoring Khalil Shakir this offseason. We'll

1826
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: see you tomorrow.