Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you? Why would look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that cher? Yes? Goodness, let's last culture racist.
Speaker 1: You had another episode for us. I gotta say, I'm
Speaker 1: all out of sorts and I'm gonna blame it on
Speaker 1: Don't say me. When have I ever blamed you for
Speaker 1: something bad? Blame it on the alcohol, Blame it on
Speaker 1: the boogie. Oh so what is the third? Blame it?
Speaker 1: Blame it on Blame it on your love. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: there you go, iconic. Okay, three, we got Charlie Michael Jackson,
Speaker 1: and who who does blame it on? Like alcohol? It's um,
Speaker 1: that's um. Blame it on the alcohol. I want to
Speaker 1: say is Jamie Foxx. I was gonna guess Jamie Foxx,
Speaker 1: but I was like, I think it's a movie actor
Speaker 1: and and wouldn't you know it? Well, actually, this is
Speaker 1: this is huge. Jamie fox is one of the most
Speaker 1: famous movie actors that there is. He's someone who's who's
Speaker 1: really achieved it all. When you say he's kind of
Speaker 1: like I'm a stone, he's like a male I'm a stone.
Speaker 1: I would say that Jamie fox is the male im
Speaker 1: a stone? And what film were they in together? Culturally?
Speaker 1: Stuff as an animated film. No, I don't know very
Speaker 1: much live action. I don't remember was the amazing Spider Man.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you're right sequel where she spoiler alert
Speaker 1: fucking dies. Sorry, Gwen, I blame it on the eclipse.
Speaker 1: I guess we're in an eclipse and scorpio. You're kidding.
Speaker 1: I only care now because Channy Nicholas is really connecting
Speaker 1: with me. You need to You need to listen to Channing. Everybody,
Speaker 1: everybody in this zoom should listen to Channy Nicholas. The
Speaker 1: app is wonderful. There's a free thirty day trial when
Speaker 1: mercuries and retrograde. What we're in retrograde? I see what
Speaker 1: a crazy journey we've been on a lost culture. Remember
Speaker 1: when I was like vehemently anti astrology on this podcast,
Speaker 1: I really do. And also I've been on my own
Speaker 1: journey with it. I was not always, you know, one
Speaker 1: with the stars, mystic girl. I was not always a
Speaker 1: mystic girl Crystal one. And now I think mystic girl
Speaker 1: would be my aim screen name. What would you okay,
Speaker 1: so your yours mystic Girl? Yeah, mine would be I
Speaker 1: love this already summer hibernating would you do suber hibernating
Speaker 1: with an I, N G or hibernating s U, M,
Speaker 1: M three are iconic. H one, B, three, R and four.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the four is an A is such
Speaker 1: a power. I and Q fuck in, Sleigh, go off,
Speaker 1: proceed to heaven. God, you want to know what I
Speaker 1: did today? This is how fucked up things. I always
Speaker 1: want to know what you did every day. I was
Speaker 1: supposed to like not eat too much today because I
Speaker 1: because I really went for it. Over the weekend. I
Speaker 1: made a baked ZD out of nowhere. Two o'clock rolls around.
Speaker 1: I go, I'm gonna make a baked ZD for eight.
Speaker 1: You can do that. I have the ingredients. I guess
Speaker 1: that's all you really need. That's all you really need
Speaker 1: if you want to make a baked ZD in the
Speaker 1: middle of the fucking day. And now I'm like weighed
Speaker 1: down by dairy and pomidoro. I mean, but but what
Speaker 1: a beautiful experience it is. During the eating, it's always
Speaker 1: worth it. I would say, it's actually real a culture.
Speaker 1: During the eating, it's always if that's what the culture
Speaker 1: number one never was that again? Seven correct that? But
Speaker 1: during the eating it's always worth it. And I have
Speaker 1: to tell you, I felt like Erica Jayne herself when
Speaker 1: I woke up this morning and had McDonald's rappers all
Speaker 1: rappers and you go hersro Taco Bell rappers. Though. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I thought she really personally dragged me once. She said,
Speaker 1: when you wake up in the morning and you see
Speaker 1: that a lot of apps and you don't remember why
Speaker 1: they got there, it's a problem. I was just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: dragged me, an absolute me. I guess I'm an alcoholic
Speaker 1: hashtag in my life, my career, my career. We we
Speaker 1: can't get into housewives right now. It's it's it's a lot,
Speaker 1: it's really a lot, and we might need to and well,
Speaker 1: let's just say this, we have someone returning to the
Speaker 1: podcast very soon in the coming weeks who will have
Speaker 1: a lot to say. And also we can't we can't
Speaker 1: yet reveal exactly a platform that will be on together
Speaker 1: to discuss housewives, but I think you can use context clues.
Speaker 1: Go little hint drop, a little hint drop A Matt,
Speaker 1: I am really really excited for this week's guest. I'm
Speaker 1: so platonically rock hard for our guest. It's like out
Speaker 1: of control. There was a moment when we were in
Speaker 1: Mexico City over New Year's where there was a potential
Speaker 1: for this person to meet up with us when we
Speaker 1: were on a night out, and I can I tell you,
Speaker 1: I felt a little flutter in my stomach. I was
Speaker 1: fluttering in my heart. I'm sorry that stomach sounds digestive
Speaker 1: in my heart and hard even sounds like a rhythmic,
Speaker 1: and so I'm sorry. We get want to say. I
Speaker 1: was like, I get to meet I get to meet her. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so basically the person, it did not happen because well,
Speaker 1: there's only one word to say, COVID. There's really only
Speaker 1: one word to say. That's actually a real culture number.
Speaker 1: There's cod so applicable to life how much nowadays, especially
Speaker 1: now that it's she back to quote Joanna Gold from
Speaker 1: I Love That for You, And it's interesting I bring
Speaker 1: that up because Our Guests is an iconic role in
Speaker 1: the show I Love That for You, on which I
Speaker 1: also they throw this word around a lot, but it's
Speaker 1: really applies here quote unquote star Um, I absolutely stand
Speaker 1: Our Guests and her role as Bena on I Love
Speaker 1: That for You, a character that, let's just say, my
Speaker 1: character sort of gets into it with you two really
Speaker 1: have this perfect TV you that makes you good, that
Speaker 1: makes the viewer, I'm good. They must love each other.
Speaker 1: I r l you know, bo. It's that classic thing
Speaker 1: what they always say about, like Rachel mcadow's playing Regina George.
Speaker 1: You need someone kind to play someone so evil. You
Speaker 1: need people that truly love each other to hate each other.
Speaker 1: So vice really and I remember when I read some
Speaker 1: things in the script, and I'm actually thrilled to say
Speaker 1: that later in the season it does get physical between
Speaker 1: us toil. But when I read in the script that
Speaker 1: we would get to scream at each other in the
Speaker 1: hallway in front of our colleagues, I really my heart
Speaker 1: was a fluttering stomach, car all of it. Screaming in
Speaker 1: a comedy is all you need. I love it so much.
Speaker 1: And my character is sort of dry and like speaks
Speaker 1: in like a sort of voice like this, so I
Speaker 1: never really get to scream. And when I got to
Speaker 1: scream the following two words at our guests, fuck you,
Speaker 1: I really, really, really I was happy about that. Me too.
Speaker 1: I think your home was very happy too, I laughed.
Speaker 1: I had to laugh. Go back rewind fifteen seconds on
Speaker 1: the Apple TV remote, Honey hit the fifteen seconds. Why
Speaker 1: don't you I want to see that again. I want
Speaker 1: to see that one again. I am watching that. Get
Speaker 1: the fact back on the screen. I'm watching shout out
Speaker 1: to our iconic guest stars. Thanks. Oh my god, that
Speaker 1: was so fun. She improvised most of what she did.
Speaker 1: That's so fun. I was like, if who wrote this?
Speaker 1: This is so funny talking about going to space, like
Speaker 1: she she knew what general world to play in. By
Speaker 1: the way, speaking of Improriser, this is a true legend
Speaker 1: in the threat and there's an interesting connection between her
Speaker 1: and one of our favorite people in the world. Oh,
Speaker 1: we gotta talk and get this. I'm in this zoom
Speaker 1: right now with two Emmy nominated actors. We have an
Speaker 1: Emmy nominee in the chat in the guest chat to
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not counting myself, but you have but
Speaker 1: you factually were nominated. Okay, yes, but I'm putting the
Speaker 1: focus on our guests and her nomination for playing him
Speaker 1: in Special. Yes, and Special is of course iconic work.
Speaker 1: And listen, we could continue to dilly dally, but let's
Speaker 1: let's start the dance. I'd say, let's start the dance.
Speaker 1: Please welcome, Oh my god, but like it would be
Speaker 1: cool if you guys just kept talking about me and
Speaker 1: I never said anything. Yeah, past to sit here, listen
Speaker 1: to you give me approbation. If you didn't mind it, No,
Speaker 1: I would love it. We love it, especially actors. Like
Speaker 1: whenever someone's like, M like watching myself so humble, I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're like, literally, we got into this profession because we
Speaker 1: love attention. Stop acting like I can't want meself. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I can't. I had to just thinking about
Speaker 1: this today, Like before this, I was like downstairs like
Speaker 1: getting water, and for some reason I thought about my mind,
Speaker 1: like we can't part time that we're in this for
Speaker 1: like noble reasons, you know, No, it's all the entity. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like sometimes I come up with noble reasons to like
Speaker 1: justify because I was in journalism major, so for a
Speaker 1: long time I was like, I'm going to work for vice,
Speaker 1: be a foreign correspondent and make a difference. And then
Speaker 1: you know, I started acting and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I yuckum, ups aren't helping the world. And then I
Speaker 1: like I was like, no, my presence on TV is
Speaker 1: normalization and that's important and diversity and dada da da da.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it's like, we
Speaker 1: love attention. So when people are like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I like I don't want my picture taking it feels
Speaker 1: so weird. I'm like, no, it doesn't. That's literally do
Speaker 1: because you love it exactly. This is the candor that
Speaker 1: we have you here for. Okay, this is sort of
Speaker 1: this is we wanted to give you this platform so
Speaker 1: you could tell all these other self serious motherfucker's to
Speaker 1: shut the funk up, like being I could, Yes, okay,
Speaker 1: what's the story on Mexico City. So you got COVID
Speaker 1: while you were No, I didn't get COVID while I
Speaker 1: was there. You had to scare you had a scar
Speaker 1: and so. And then I was like with a whole
Speaker 1: group of people and they had plans, and then you
Speaker 1: guys had plans and they just weren't matching up. But
Speaker 1: I wish I would have just common met up with
Speaker 1: you guys at night because it was so fun. It
Speaker 1: was so fun what you guys were doing at that club.
Speaker 1: I like looked it up and everything, and I was
Speaker 1: like looking at the yelped pictures and I was sitting
Speaker 1: outside of a bar. We're the most exciting thing that happened.
Speaker 1: Was they handed us a bag of grapes. Yeah, okay, grapes,
Speaker 1: the grapes. I didn't know about this grape culture. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, grape culture title that. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: grape culture until Mexico City and they can somebody what
Speaker 1: is it exactly? It's you get twelve grapes and you're
Speaker 1: supposed to eat them, and they're supposed to They're supposed
Speaker 1: to represent the you know, the last four months of
Speaker 1: the year Spanish tradition, and so in Spanish speaking countries, okay,
Speaker 1: reading this, it consists of eating a grape with each
Speaker 1: of the oh I'm starry, with each of the twelve
Speaker 1: clock bell stripes at midnight welco the new year. Each
Speaker 1: grape and clock bell stripe represents the coming twelve months.
Speaker 1: So I got that mixed up. So it's the had Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I love the tradition, love it, and it
Speaker 1: was fun and the grapes were very delicious, like hard, firm,
Speaker 1: juicy and weird skin green. My preferred grape is green personally. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not a grape if it's not green, because the
Speaker 1: purple ones leave like a weird film in your mouth.
Speaker 1: But some of the people I was with had more
Speaker 1: grapes than alcohol that night. And I'm not shaming people
Speaker 1: that don't drink. I am an ally to all. But
Speaker 1: I know you wanted to turn up. I know you
Speaker 1: you wanted to turn up, turn up. And it was
Speaker 1: New Year's Eat. And then once the grape arrived, everyone
Speaker 1: was like stopping their faces with grapes, and I was like,
Speaker 1: should we take a shot? And they're like, I'm good
Speaker 1: with my grapes, and I was like, I'm good with
Speaker 1: my grapes. I'm good with my grapes, and but I'm
Speaker 1: you kind of what we're around, what it seemed to be,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to make any sort of like
Speaker 1: you were around a lot of straight It was all couples,
Speaker 1: and they were very nice and two and two of
Speaker 1: them I really really love the other one. I just
Speaker 1: didn't know them. So sometimes this thing happens when you
Speaker 1: don't know people and you're in a foreign country on
Speaker 1: a vacation, on like one of the most fun nights
Speaker 1: of the year, and they can kind of come off
Speaker 1: as like energy vampire, yeah, And I'm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what the opposite of a vampire is. Like, I'm
Speaker 1: like energy, energy, NonStop vomit. Yeah yeah, I think. Yeah, Well,
Speaker 1: the opposite of a vampire is six Flags guy. I'm
Speaker 1: the six Flags guy energy. Yeah yeah, party motivator. I
Speaker 1: think if you're in a couple, I think a lot
Speaker 1: of couples when they come together, they become energy vampire.
Speaker 1: That's what That's what happened my couple. Yeah, but my
Speaker 1: couple is like literally two versions of me, just in
Speaker 1: two different genders. So it's like double six twelve flags
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And then it was two energy vampires. And
Speaker 1: I was like, what was the name of the bar
Speaker 1: we were at Bow for New Year's it was? It
Speaker 1: was not It was not a great bar. I will
Speaker 1: say I think it was great, But I will say this,
Speaker 1: the the like dancers they had at that bar that
Speaker 1: night on New Year's Eve were the most beautiful men
Speaker 1: I had ever seen. Yes, they were shocking. Blowbar That's
Speaker 1: what it was, Bob. Yes, I looked up a blowbar
Speaker 1: you to bear that night at three point three on
Speaker 1: on Google Maps, and not the pictures. Like one of
Speaker 1: the first pictures I think was like two people with
Speaker 1: like devil masks on, and I was like, I want
Speaker 1: to be there. Yeah, that was really the vibe. To
Speaker 1: be honest with you, it was devilish. Yeah, but it
Speaker 1: was not good. I just I want I want you
Speaker 1: to know that you were not missing anything. And I
Speaker 1: want to say the people I were all very nice
Speaker 1: and we still had fun. It was just a different
Speaker 1: type of grape based fun. Yes, that I wasn't expecting. Well,
Speaker 1: we're at this, We're about to hit the you know,
Speaker 1: the five month mark. Ye, we're four and a half
Speaker 1: months into this year. How do we do? We want
Speaker 1: to reflect already on what the year is. I feel
Speaker 1: like starting the year in Mexico, I was hoping that
Speaker 1: it would be like a new a new frontier, and
Speaker 1: it hasn't been. It's all it's all been the same.
Speaker 1: Oh do you feel like it's not been the same
Speaker 1: because it's been bad or it's just been like monotonous monotonous.
Speaker 1: It's been very monotonous. It's been like not much has
Speaker 1: changed since January. I have to say, I think for
Speaker 1: us it's been different, different because we got Q one
Speaker 1: was pretty packed, you know. You know, I actually famously
Speaker 1: got COVID in Mexico City, which maybe you didn't hang out,
Speaker 1: and I was very concerned because we were going to
Speaker 1: start shooting like kind of right away, and they end
Speaker 1: up pushing because of the only really one word to say, COVID.
Speaker 1: So then we shot. We shot for eight weeks, and
Speaker 1: you know, I genuinely felt there were times when I
Speaker 1: would see put Um Patel and I was sort of
Speaker 1: my heart relieve out of my chest. And I knew
Speaker 1: I loved you from the pilot, but then I felt
Speaker 1: like every single time you had any like interaction with when,
Speaker 1: I'm like, it was like always a better, brighter day.
Speaker 1: And I also have to say, you're so fucking funny
Speaker 1: in the show. So funny. I mean not to boomerang
Speaker 1: it back, but I don't do it. I got a boomerang,
Speaker 1: and I know it's annoying, but I have to. Also
Speaker 1: when I'm showed up for the press the virtual press
Speaker 1: day looking supermodel, of course, well because my character is
Speaker 1: so frumpy, so I was like, I have to fucking
Speaker 1: step it up. And then for premiere, I was like
Speaker 1: I have to go full because I mean like a
Speaker 1: break eat and like a flannel and I was like,
Speaker 1: I have to commemorate this body because it's not gonna
Speaker 1: look like this forever and I like working hard on it,
Speaker 1: so I'm like, we gotta show it off. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: were giving legs. We had to, we had no choice.
Speaker 1: And now now I don't ever want to say you're
Speaker 1: not showing them wish. Granted, we live in California, so
Speaker 1: I can always be like kind of naked. That's true.
Speaker 1: So in this news in this news project you're doing,
Speaker 1: where you play, we were speaking with you. You're in
Speaker 1: Toronto right now and you're filming. Are we allowed to
Speaker 1: say or we can't say what it is, but we
Speaker 1: can we stay with what you're who you're playing. I
Speaker 1: think so, So you're going to sue us actually do that.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. It's it's a major company, but
Speaker 1: you're playing a mom for the very first time ever.
Speaker 1: Is it a mom's legs? Is it like a hot
Speaker 1: home mom um? There is one portion where yes, okay,
Speaker 1: and I just had a wardrobe fitting for that portion
Speaker 1: and I was like, let's go for it. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: is one portion and I was like, let's go for
Speaker 1: the extreme because the rest I am. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: The nice thing I like about the wardrobe department was like,
Speaker 1: just because she's a mom, doesn't mean she has to
Speaker 1: be frumpy, you know what I mean. So it's still
Speaker 1: like like very flattering clothes and things like that. But
Speaker 1: it's just funny because you know, I'm thirty seven, and
Speaker 1: when I got this part, I was like, Wow, what
Speaker 1: a stretch. How is anyone going to believe that I'm
Speaker 1: a mom? And I had to be like, bitch, it
Speaker 1: is very like reasonable that I would have a ten
Speaker 1: year old son, right, but in my mind, it's like
Speaker 1: unfathomable that anyone would ever believe that I have a kid,
Speaker 1: because I don't. But it's not. It's normal for a
Speaker 1: lot of people my age to have children. I guess
Speaker 1: it happens every day. It happens all the time. And
Speaker 1: isn't it weird that we think it doesn't just because
Speaker 1: we're around that many people who have them. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: like we live in this different world, which is a
Speaker 1: good thing, but I have like it's when you like
Speaker 1: talk to your high school or college friends, but you're like, oh, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: where did you grow up? Florida? Florida, and so that's
Speaker 1: but that but then that's its own thing, that's its
Speaker 1: own environment where people are like on different timelines. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then also like being Indian. You know, it's like, honestly,
Speaker 1: how am I even alive that I'm not married and
Speaker 1: have children right now? Like? Am I even Indian? You know? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel I'm starting to feel that now
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I feel like my parents are
Speaker 1: telling me about these kids I grew up with who
Speaker 1: are like starting families now, And I'm like, are you
Speaker 1: disappointed that I'm not doing that? Yeah? I'm about lucky.
Speaker 1: I have an older sister that married another Patel and
Speaker 1: had to like purebred Indian children, So I'm like, so
Speaker 1: much feel sacrificed. So they about that, So I'm like,
Speaker 1: you're good looking the other way at the moment, yes,
Speaker 1: they're distracted. You know what, I've realized, Bowen, I have
Speaker 1: never asked you do you want children? I think, um
Speaker 1: at this time now same at this time, it feels like,
Speaker 1: especially after we talked to Jesse on the Spodrom and
Speaker 1: like reading her book, I was like, parenting sounds like
Speaker 1: the hardest thing you could possibly do. I don't think
Speaker 1: I could. I don't think I have it the gumption
Speaker 1: or whatever, not that it takes gumption to be a
Speaker 1: good parent. Or whatever. I just don't have like that capacity,
Speaker 1: do you. You know, For a long long time, especially
Speaker 1: in my twenties, I was like, hell, no, I am
Speaker 1: not having kids. I'm going to travel for the rest
Speaker 1: of my life and eat good food and this and that.
Speaker 1: And I think something happens, especially for women as we're
Speaker 1: getting older and we're constantly reminded that our bodies are
Speaker 1: withering away and our eggs are like running out of
Speaker 1: our body every day, that I'm like, oh, I kind
Speaker 1: of have to decide. But I feel like really really open.
Speaker 1: I think also because I'm with someone for the first
Speaker 1: time that I could imagine that kind of life with
Speaker 1: and a family with. I just think I hadn't really
Speaker 1: dated anyone that I could imagine having a family with,
Speaker 1: let alone like even being with the next week. But
Speaker 1: like I think now that I have to like kind
Speaker 1: of know a little bit, um, I feel really open
Speaker 1: to it. But with the big caveat that I've realized,
Speaker 1: is it caveat or caveat, I think it's I think
Speaker 1: it's sort of tomato tomato. I think it really is yourself.
Speaker 1: But I realized I'm not going to do it unless
Speaker 1: I'm really rich to enough to afford every single type
Speaker 1: of help available. Yes, yes, yes, I'm talking night nurse, nanny, babysitter,
Speaker 1: home with separate wing. I honestly think working in childcare
Speaker 1: you should, you should, you should be paid at least
Speaker 1: seven figures. Oh. It's such a grueling job, and I
Speaker 1: think there's like shame, especially towards women, where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you don't even work, you just stay home and you
Speaker 1: still have help to raise your kids. And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like the hardest thing in the world. It's like
Speaker 1: a little gremlin, fucking little you push out a little
Speaker 1: goober and then it's like latching onto you, sucking with
Speaker 1: life out of you, ruining your body, ruining your mood.
Speaker 1: You go into depression. Yeah, I'm gonna need some hols.
Speaker 1: I also think there is a time in a young,
Speaker 1: young child's life where it's like there's like a period
Speaker 1: of time where they are dead set on trying to
Speaker 1: accidentally kill themselves, like they're trying to They're absolutely trying
Speaker 1: to run into a sharp corner. They're really they're they're
Speaker 1: dead set on falling off a ledge, like they will.
Speaker 1: They'll sort of like crawl towards death. And it's your
Speaker 1: job to keep the kid alive and wants to do.
Speaker 1: That's something I don't think I could personally deal with.
Speaker 1: I was talking about this today, um I was co
Speaker 1: hosting the podcast Attitudes, and Aaron Gibson asked if I
Speaker 1: would ever want a child, and I was like, of me,
Speaker 1: says no, But I think there's five percent possibility that
Speaker 1: I could meet someone fall absolutely head over heels in
Speaker 1: love with them in their my entire world, and if
Speaker 1: they were like, I must have children, then I could
Speaker 1: see myself doing it and it wouldn't be, you know,
Speaker 1: the craziest worst thing in the world, because I do
Speaker 1: think I would be a good parent if I ever
Speaker 1: got over myself. Um. But but that's like a really
Speaker 1: really narrow margin. Really, is it weird to act as
Speaker 1: a parent, Like what is? What is? Is there a
Speaker 1: different philosophy to acting? They're not philosophy, like a thing
Speaker 1: about acting that you're learning as like where you have
Speaker 1: to like pretend that you are this person's caretaker, especially
Speaker 1: because I've met his mom and like she's just really sweet,
Speaker 1: tiny Indian woman who like wears Indian clothes and she's
Speaker 1: like so sweet and like quiet and I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: I'm just like she must be looking at me being
Speaker 1: like this bit is gonna mother my son. But you know,
Speaker 1: the thing with like acting is I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: like scam the system just like well, because I feel
Speaker 1: like I started in comedy and I know we like act,
Speaker 1: but I haven't. We were said we we scammed. We
Speaker 1: scammed our way in a little bit. It's a little bit.
Speaker 1: And so now I feel like people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you can act, but I'm like, no, I'm just really
Speaker 1: sensitive and so I feel all my emotions like really
Speaker 1: deeply all the time. And then I'm just really good
Speaker 1: at triggering myself. So do you do that? Do you
Speaker 1: do you trigger yourself with with with your own pain
Speaker 1: in order to go there? Yes, and that's probably not
Speaker 1: how you act like you're supposed to act. But I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh, I'm supposed to feel this. Let me
Speaker 1: think of something really sad that happened to me and
Speaker 1: put myself back in that place. And then I'm just like,
Speaker 1: it's just like fe therapy, but you probably learned like
Speaker 1: actual acting technique. But then also I'm like, well, funk it,
Speaker 1: Let's just see how long we could do us until
Speaker 1: someone's like, bitch, take a class, right, And like most
Speaker 1: I don't know. I was like on like a like
Speaker 1: an actor interview kick of like watching people talk about
Speaker 1: their process, and most of these like these actors who
Speaker 1: we love are like I don't really have one, right,
Speaker 1: that's a process, you know, Like they're like I kind
Speaker 1: of just like it depends project to project. And if
Speaker 1: you're triggering yourself to elicit the appropriate emotion, like that's
Speaker 1: that's that's your that's technique, Like I think you're good.
Speaker 1: It's also the interest sometimes sometimes when I'm playing a
Speaker 1: character and I can understand the emotional situation, and it's like,
Speaker 1: for example, and Fire Island, I have like end bone
Speaker 1: can absolutely wait to watch that, by the way, but
Speaker 1: there's there's emotional scenes for all the characters. But and
Speaker 1: I think that because that was such a meta experience
Speaker 1: of doing that movie, it was not difficult to put
Speaker 1: ourselves in those characters shoes and therefore get to that
Speaker 1: emotional place. So that's one thing. But like Darcy has
Speaker 1: some emotional stuff later in the season and the ship
Speaker 1: he gets upset about. I could never get upset about,
Speaker 1: so trying to conjure up like really really real seeming
Speaker 1: emotion over something that you have no connection to is
Speaker 1: really hard. And so like on days when I had
Speaker 1: to be crying, like I would just be trying to
Speaker 1: maintain that all day and the crew was like tiptoeing
Speaker 1: around me, and I was like, guys, I'm not actually upset.
Speaker 1: This is not real emotion. That's what that's That's what's
Speaker 1: so like annoying about it is like trying and like
Speaker 1: like really trying to get yourself there. And I was
Speaker 1: trying to trigger myself and I couldn't do it. And
Speaker 1: then I ended up crying because I was so frustrated
Speaker 1: that I couldn't do it. I was like, well, I
Speaker 1: guess I got there, like you got there? Who cares? How? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I was just just so disappointed that I cried, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, I guess this is what
Speaker 1: doesn't work too roll the tape. That's meta, that's meta. Wait,
Speaker 1: was there stuff with beinga this season that you felt
Speaker 1: similiarly about Beina doesn't do you do? You don't really say,
Speaker 1: I'm not not in terms of being emotional, but in
Speaker 1: terms of like she's caring about something that I have
Speaker 1: no I don't care about whatsoever or the other way around.
Speaker 1: Um No, she's like very different from me. But that's
Speaker 1: why it's fun, because it's like it's a kind of
Speaker 1: character where it's like those like deep inappropriate thoughts that
Speaker 1: we all have, but like, you know, we're adults and
Speaker 1: we're good people, say she says, um, so in the way,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like scratching and it because we all,
Speaker 1: like I think secretly, we all want to be awful sometimes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like you know, like when I first got to college
Speaker 1: and I was like in a lecture hall for the
Speaker 1: first time, like in a history class or something like,
Speaker 1: do you don't have those urges where you just want
Speaker 1: to stand up and yell something like really bad, like
Speaker 1: really bad. Yeah, we canceled bad And then I would
Speaker 1: I would be like scared that I was going to
Speaker 1: do it, and then I'd be like, don't don't say that,
Speaker 1: and then I'd be like I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm to say it. I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: It's like I think we have is it just me?
Speaker 1: Like I think we have those urges, but we're like
Speaker 1: good people, so we don't do it. Yeah, instinct. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's a violent urge, Yeah, we do have it. And
Speaker 1: like so I think, like when you get to play
Speaker 1: like someone like bea who's just fully unhinged, I get
Speaker 1: to just do it and I have an excuse to
Speaker 1: do it, and hello, I get paid and rewarded to dream.
Speaker 1: Dream what's the connection? A Bryant so eighty, as you know,
Speaker 1: is a second city. So I like, I was, you know,
Speaker 1: taking costs that second city and always watched her and
Speaker 1: like admired her. And then I got to audition when
Speaker 1: she got hired for SNL. I got to audition to
Speaker 1: be her understudy. Cool. And when even when I was auditioning, um,
Speaker 1: it was either when I was auditioning or then when
Speaker 1: I eventually got it, she sent me like the nicest email.
Speaker 1: It was when I was auditioning, because she was like,
Speaker 1: if you have any questions, and I was like, well,
Speaker 1: you just got hired to us, and I don't really
Speaker 1: want to bother you, and she's like no, seriously, like
Speaker 1: you know, I want you to feel comfortable because it's
Speaker 1: like all the parts that she wrote for herself and
Speaker 1: I have to do it and I can't, like no
Speaker 1: one can be her, So you have to find a
Speaker 1: way to like make it your own while still honoring
Speaker 1: the work, and she like, I had a couple of
Speaker 1: questions and she sent me back like the nicest, most
Speaker 1: thorough email walking me through every scene was like so sweet.
Speaker 1: And I was like, this woman, I don't know, just
Speaker 1: got hired to this iconic show, dream job, and she's
Speaker 1: sitting here writing me an email so like an audition
Speaker 1: to be her understudy. She's she's so sweet and her
Speaker 1: parts were like so fun to do because she's like
Speaker 1: brilliant and study. And I replaced her and then I
Speaker 1: got to do the like the next two shows where
Speaker 1: I got to like write my own stuff. Then yeah, amazing, No,
Speaker 1: but it was like awesome because that was the first job.
Speaker 1: Also that like took me away from a nine to
Speaker 1: five because up until then I was like working as
Speaker 1: an editor. So I was like, Okay, I'll just like
Speaker 1: do comedy for fun, but I have to make money.
Speaker 1: And the second city offered me a full time job,
Speaker 1: and my dad was like, you're living the life of
Speaker 1: a gypsy. You can't do this was like I gotta go.
Speaker 1: I forget that. It's like that like it's that's so
Speaker 1: different than U. C. B. Which is well there was
Speaker 1: an absolutely no money. There was only paying them. But
Speaker 1: it's it's sort of like more of reviews, though, what's
Speaker 1: the experience of being in the company. They're like, you know,
Speaker 1: Second City is an interesting place for me. I can
Speaker 1: only speak to me personally because yeah, because it's like
Speaker 1: obviously as everyone's heard of, like a lot of comedy institutions,
Speaker 1: extremely problematic. But I still really value my time there
Speaker 1: because it actually gave me the confidence and affirmation that
Speaker 1: I could like perform for a living, whereas I didn't
Speaker 1: know I could before that. But like being pardon of
Speaker 1: ensemble there there's only six of you and then you're
Speaker 1: like writing your show together, and I think the best
Speaker 1: thing that came out of it was like made me
Speaker 1: not precious with any of my work because it's like
Speaker 1: I would write a sketch and sometimes you just write
Speaker 1: an idea and you improvise it, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is brilliant. It was really funny. Thing. We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to replace the chairs, Everyone's going to pee their pants.
Speaker 1: This is still good. It's gonna give me the hall
Speaker 1: of fame a Second City that doesn't exist. And then
Speaker 1: I would go on to like on stage and it
Speaker 1: would be fucking crickets groans, and then that sketch would
Speaker 1: never see the light of day, so you had to
Speaker 1: just like move on really quickly. So like I feel
Speaker 1: like it makes me now when I like write or
Speaker 1: like improvise something and so doesn't like it or I auditioned,
Speaker 1: I don't get it. I'm like, yeah, but I was
Speaker 1: thinking about you talking about working the stage job, like
Speaker 1: being an editor, Like that's another part of the scam
Speaker 1: though for us, Like for I think for all three
Speaker 1: of us, I know, like everyone has to do it,
Speaker 1: like you have to eat somehow, but like I think
Speaker 1: for us to like do what we do now and
Speaker 1: like while like nurturing this like side hustle while also
Speaker 1: having to like balance like this thing that like paid
Speaker 1: your bills. Like I don't know, Like I feel like
Speaker 1: it's a scam, but it's also like it's it takes
Speaker 1: a lot of like mental work to do. I mean
Speaker 1: that in a long time, you know, because because you
Speaker 1: haven't had to. But that was that was that was
Speaker 1: where I think I can speak for myself, like of
Speaker 1: my energy went to trying to maintain like anything having
Speaker 1: to do on a day to day basis, with my
Speaker 1: my aspirations and my like dream career while also needing
Speaker 1: to work in a restaurant all the time. And I
Speaker 1: honestly think what keeps me going and what keeps me
Speaker 1: like honestly like really always wanting the next job is
Speaker 1: because I refuse to go back to working and a
Speaker 1: high volume see food restaurant, right, And I do, I
Speaker 1: do have fears that I will like I will, I
Speaker 1: will still have like stress dreams. Will call them nightmares.
Speaker 1: Actually I'm gonna call it a nightmare that like I
Speaker 1: forgot table twose diet coke, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it's really it's like and and the refusal to
Speaker 1: go back to that life is something that I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think when when you are a person that's like
Speaker 1: needs to work and doesn't have the privilege of having
Speaker 1: like the money that's always there so you can of
Speaker 1: the time be pursuing, you know, be pursuing your career
Speaker 1: and what you want, like that separates people and Suti
Speaker 1: is the same way, like and you actually put him
Speaker 1: like was part of sudis jfl new Faces. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that's another connection years ago. Wow, she's she's the best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so basically like I think that's something we all share,
Speaker 1: is like the the need to hustle and also like
Speaker 1: have the survival job was yeah, yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't know, like there's something it's it's it's it's weird.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I I promise this is not like
Speaker 1: a stoner thought. I'm not stone I'm totally sober, but
Speaker 1: I'm like, it is weird. How this is like a
Speaker 1: universal like journey into comedy acting, which is you like,
Speaker 1: go through this whole pipeline. I don't know, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: And it's kind of just like a it's a risk
Speaker 1: you take, like a huge risk to go act like
Speaker 1: a fucking idiot for free, like to go play pretend
Speaker 1: with other adults. And then like, yeah, I found a picture.
Speaker 1: So I moved to l A to do the the
Speaker 1: CBS Diversity Showcase. Yes, no big deal. Um were you're
Speaker 1: making a basement? Honey? Remember what year you did it? Okay, great?
Speaker 1: Was that the year we were supposed to do it?
Speaker 1: But you're supposed we were going to do it a
Speaker 1: couple of years later. Oh my gosh. Well I found
Speaker 1: a picture of me the other day and it was
Speaker 1: like a sketch someone had written about what we do,
Speaker 1: and I was dressed like Velma, but it was like
Speaker 1: makeshift costume, so it was like brown tablecloth tied around
Speaker 1: me as a skirt, an orange ill fitting sweater and
Speaker 1: like literally like like a like a wig that looks
Speaker 1: like a tupe and then flashes and I'm just standing
Speaker 1: there and I'm standing next to do you know Cola Scolay, brilliant,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest for meeting brilliant minds of our time.
Speaker 1: He's standing next to me dressed like Scooby And I
Speaker 1: was just like looking at that picture and I had
Speaker 1: made a gift at the time that said that moment
Speaker 1: where you ask yourself what the hell are you doing?
Speaker 1: It happened in that moment on stage, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like, especially as comedians, we have that all
Speaker 1: the time because we're like when we're starting, we're like
Speaker 1: in a basement with filled with asbestos. They're serving blue pictures,
Speaker 1: a blue drink, there's a pizza on the stage, there's
Speaker 1: a dog roaming around. You're like you're doing a problematic accent,
Speaker 1: and you're just like, what are we doing? Yeah? And
Speaker 1: like also the funny thing is like speaking of the
Speaker 1: smells of those places. I will never forget. Bone, do
Speaker 1: you remember finding out remember that smell in the pit underground?
Speaker 1: That pit underground, by the way. One time, Bone and
Speaker 1: I did a show for one person. It was Matt
Speaker 1: and Bowen. We were doing Sluck Luck. We had a
Speaker 1: slutty lip sync dance duo named Sluck And one person
Speaker 1: came and I was my friend of me and I
Speaker 1: remember finding out that that smell was dead rat. What, Yes,
Speaker 1: that smell was dead decomposing rat. And I think it
Speaker 1: was a bartender at the time that was that. I
Speaker 1: was like sort of flirting with there that told me that,
Speaker 1: and he was like, you know what that smell is
Speaker 1: des And I always just thought it was like it
Speaker 1: must be like a cleaner they used or something. But
Speaker 1: do you remember that smell? I remember that smell. You'll
Speaker 1: never forget the smells of these places. Wait, but how
Speaker 1: did the rat pass? No? No, no, not rat rats?
Speaker 1: So what was there? Like rat poison? And they would
Speaker 1: eat in they were just the carcasses were just left there.
Speaker 1: They were like behind this they were like somewhere in
Speaker 1: the walls or something or like because you know, there's
Speaker 1: like thousands of rats everywhere you go in New York City,
Speaker 1: you just don't see them. There's like millions of rats everywhere.
Speaker 1: How do you get them out? You got to break
Speaker 1: into the wall. You have to break into the wall. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: But this is well anyway, this is all to say that, like,
Speaker 1: what a beautiful journey to have you all of us
Speaker 1: do this, but then for you guys specifically to end
Speaker 1: up on the show with Suity and then with Vanessa
Speaker 1: and Molly and Jeremy and like all the people who
Speaker 1: work on the show. I'm watching the show and I go,
Speaker 1: this is a perfect show. It feels like it's it's
Speaker 1: made for me in a way where I'm like, it's
Speaker 1: all these people who I love, all like working on
Speaker 1: the same project and oh, it's so it's just so good.
Speaker 1: I did get to watch the first episode with Bowen
Speaker 1: when they when they put it on Showtime, and Bowen said,
Speaker 1: this is exactly the kind of show I want to watch,
Speaker 1: and I was like, Oh, I hope, I hope more
Speaker 1: people that are like, you know, have great taste say that.
Speaker 1: I genuinely, I don't know I would imagine that you've well,
Speaker 1: I know you have like you've you've you've booked and
Speaker 1: been around like so you know it feels like a
Speaker 1: special show. No it is, there's not a done in
Speaker 1: the group. The writing is like insanely good. We were
Speaker 1: cackling out loud. I couldn't even memorize my lines because
Speaker 1: I was like saying them out lout to myself and
Speaker 1: I couldn't get through that. But it's so good. It's
Speaker 1: such an all like literally it's stars on stars. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and even my mom likes it and she doesn't like anything.
Speaker 1: It's literally the only criticism she had was like I
Speaker 1: didn't like that sweater you wore or whatever, has like
Speaker 1: opinions about the wardrobe, and like literally once she hated
Speaker 1: my wardrobe on a show so much. But she was like,
Speaker 1: so do they force you to wear those clothes? And
Speaker 1: I was like, like against my will? And she's like yeah,
Speaker 1: like in her mind, like there's no way I would
Speaker 1: have chosen to wear that outfit. It was still bad.
Speaker 1: It's one of those things where you can't really explain
Speaker 1: to a parent, like what goes into like this is
Speaker 1: not it's not up to you. So in a way
Speaker 1: she's right, like you are being forced, but also it's
Speaker 1: like day, yeah, it's funny yams are just critical. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's it's there's Darcy wears a suit in
Speaker 1: the first episode, which is so tight that my I mean,
Speaker 1: we can just say my dick is out, thank you, sweetheart.
Speaker 1: But but like my penis was fully out and I
Speaker 1: could feel my mom like sort of floating around and
Speaker 1: she was like, yeah, that's suit. I thought you wore it. Well, um,
Speaker 1: it's like, what do you do when you're a mom
Speaker 1: and your son's penis is out? You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a big question I have. What do you do
Speaker 1: when you're a mom? Like I we I did these
Speaker 1: photos for Gay Letter and Thongs that Cole and Joel
Speaker 1: also did, and it was like the one picture that
Speaker 1: my mom and dad did not like, and I know
Speaker 1: they saw. What do you do when your son's asses
Speaker 1: out and dick is on tv? You know you can't?
Speaker 1: And this is what we have to ask ourselves when
Speaker 1: we end up wanting kids. Yes, you you have to
Speaker 1: think ahead and think how am I going to be
Speaker 1: when I see their dick out? Because at a certain
Speaker 1: age it transitions from that's my child's dick to know
Speaker 1: that's there, that's there, that's not my butt I'm responsible for.
Speaker 1: That's their book. Now I can't. You can only touch
Speaker 1: there button dick for so long to tuck it back in,
Speaker 1: and then at a certain age, I can't touch them anyway.
Speaker 1: They have to deal with that on their own. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget that one time my dad came in. I
Speaker 1: was like fourteen or fifteen years old, and I was like,
Speaker 1: for some reason, I was taking a shower in his
Speaker 1: bathroom and I know for a fact he came in
Speaker 1: on purpose to see what if I had pubes. And
Speaker 1: I think that was the first time he ever saw
Speaker 1: me with pubes. And I saw him like smirk, like
Speaker 1: my kid has pubs, now, you know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 1: but of course, when I was a little kid, they
Speaker 1: saw me naked all the time, running around and then
Speaker 1: I guess around like five six, you know, that starts
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, I don't want my parents
Speaker 1: seeing me naked, but this was a thing all the time,
Speaker 1: and then I sort of went away to the wilderness
Speaker 1: to go, you know, the wilderness, like being my bedroom
Speaker 1: and shutting the door and like having a puberty moment.
Speaker 1: And then they see you and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: your kids like a little man. Also, I like how
Speaker 1: your dad thought it would be less awkward to walk
Speaker 1: in on your naked and just like, hey, it's been
Speaker 1: a while since I seen yourn it. I'm wondering what
Speaker 1: the pube situation is now. I know you probably got it.
Speaker 1: Uh show me. He's like, nof, like, I wonder what
Speaker 1: that was. Yeah, you should have just asked you, But
Speaker 1: I guess it's also weird to ask you. Are you
Speaker 1: growing here down there yet? I think I think if
Speaker 1: they have any questions about my penis now, they can
Speaker 1: just watch episode one and I love that for you,
Speaker 1: and it's like pretty, It's like pretty, it's been pretty
Speaker 1: craftically out there speaking of penises, you know, beginning of life.
Speaker 1: Going back to the beginning and the drawing board, What
Speaker 1: was the culture that made you say culture was for you?
Speaker 1: I think it was, if I'm understanding the question correctly,
Speaker 1: you are you stirl? I think it was like the culture.
Speaker 1: It was like Indian haggling culture. Huh, we can talk
Speaker 1: about this. Yes, it is like haggling and deals and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. It's like a fare a big part
Speaker 1: of being Indian. And I think it used to kind
Speaker 1: of embarrass me, um because it's not just about being cheap.
Speaker 1: Because Indians are going to like Bindy Jeweler's jewelry store
Speaker 1: and buying like thousands of dollars of gold, and they
Speaker 1: have a little shitty calculator held together by tape, and
Speaker 1: they're like calculating the price, poking, And then my mom's
Speaker 1: grabbing the calculator, She's like, what about this per ounce
Speaker 1: of gold? So they're like buying expensive things, but they're
Speaker 1: still haggling. And then they're also haggling, you know, with
Speaker 1: the guys selling a cucumber at the market. Um. But
Speaker 1: I think it like really enforced this idea of like
Speaker 1: you're not going to get the best interesting. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: not in a paranoid way, but in a way that
Speaker 1: is empowering because even now, like especially as you know,
Speaker 1: like in this industry, like when we first start as
Speaker 1: any marginalized group, we're just like so fucking excited someone
Speaker 1: let us in, whether we have to crawl in through
Speaker 1: the window or up in the toilet, we got here
Speaker 1: and we're just like so happy we're here, and we're
Speaker 1: like kick us out if we say anything. And I
Speaker 1: feel like the Indian haggling culture that has been ingrained
Speaker 1: into my DNA didn't allow me though, even from beginning,
Speaker 1: to just accept everything and be in this place of
Speaker 1: like toxic gratitude, because I'm very grateful, but I feel
Speaker 1: like it's now allowed me to be like, no, I
Speaker 1: know we can do better. Yeah, you're right that it
Speaker 1: is when you struggle to get your foot in the door,
Speaker 1: because not only is it hard period, but also when
Speaker 1: you are the type of person that only gets offered
Speaker 1: a certain thing and you feel like you're in competition
Speaker 1: with people like you, um, it's it is like when
Speaker 1: when they decide to hand you an opportunity. I remember,
Speaker 1: like when they first told I got offered a job
Speaker 1: one time and the pay was insanely low, and I
Speaker 1: was so excited about it. I was like, they want
Speaker 1: to bring me five thousand dollars an episode. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: that's like that's like dollars for four episode. And then
Speaker 1: you hear like, no, that's a joke, Like you could
Speaker 1: you you can't say yes to that, but it was
Speaker 1: more money than I had ever thought. And and also
Speaker 1: you're just like, well, don't piss them off. Don't go
Speaker 1: back and say that's not acceptable, because then you know
Speaker 1: I don't want them to be mad at me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well they'll take it away. They'll take it away and
Speaker 1: give it to someone else. So you feel like you
Speaker 1: bypassed that, like that moment of like, oh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: like this is I don't want to rock the boat
Speaker 1: too much, you think, like with haggling, like you got
Speaker 1: to skip that. Maybe yes, I mean I feel like
Speaker 1: I'll still if I care about something, I'll still do
Speaker 1: it even for free, because I want to do it
Speaker 1: and I feel privileged enough that I could be in
Speaker 1: that position. But yeah, and also it's like I'm ry
Speaker 1: aware that when you have an agent or a manager,
Speaker 1: you have to give them ten percent. So I'm like,
Speaker 1: if I don't need you, I'm not paying ten percent.
Speaker 1: It's like, and keep it too small until people like
Speaker 1: you have to have a lawyer. You have to do this.
Speaker 1: So I'm like, okay, fine. But also I'm like, well
Speaker 1: they canna ask what some har I'm been asking we're
Speaker 1: supposed to where someone says no, but like I always
Speaker 1: have to at least try. It's like this weird thing
Speaker 1: to me. Like today, so I'm in Toronto right now,
Speaker 1: and we're in this little corporate apartment but it has
Speaker 1: like a little bit of corporate apartment smell, and so
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what I need like a
Speaker 1: diffuser or something nice. So I was like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna treat myself. And I went to like West
Speaker 1: Elm today, like a little rich white lady, and the
Speaker 1: diffusers were like seventy nine dollars for one diffuser, and
Speaker 1: I was like, like the immigrant in me and like
Speaker 1: the cheap Indian to me was like that's ridiculous, and me,
Speaker 1: I was like, I really like a smell, and I
Speaker 1: want to live in a place of smells good and
Speaker 1: I want to want and also I can afford it.
Speaker 1: I'm doing I'm feeling a movie like but like even
Speaker 1: when I was up there, I was like kind of
Speaker 1: part time, I'm a student, go online and sign up
Speaker 1: for an email, and then I bought it and it
Speaker 1: ended up being like eighty one dollar Canadian and I
Speaker 1: was like really, And then I came home and then
Speaker 1: I transferred it to like USD and it's like sixty
Speaker 1: three and I was like god him like translating the currency,
Speaker 1: but like that was like but I still got a
Speaker 1: deal because I bought a Canadian but it was only
Speaker 1: sixty three, and I thought it was one. Wow, that's
Speaker 1: the journey. I'm that's no. I honestly really admire that
Speaker 1: because I feel like I went the other way. Like, Okay,
Speaker 1: so like my parents growing up, like did that thing
Speaker 1: we're at Like let's say we were at Macy's or something,
Speaker 1: and like I wanted to buy like a pair of shoes,
Speaker 1: they would like borrower with the salesperson. Did they do that?
Speaker 1: Did your parents do this? Yes? And I've done it
Speaker 1: for friends. There's always't that has little coupons in it.
Speaker 1: I don't do it as much anymore because I'm trying
Speaker 1: to value my energy and and also I'm like it's
Speaker 1: a show of self worth if I can treat myself
Speaker 1: to nice things. Um so that's something I've learned, like
Speaker 1: by lest stuff but not nice stuff, but nice stuff.
Speaker 1: But no, growing up, we were always like, I think
Speaker 1: there's a little thread coming out here. Can we get
Speaker 1: ten percent? Yes? And guess what, Maze is going to
Speaker 1: be just fine. I'm not doing it when I traveled
Speaker 1: to Columbia with a street vendor who's like selling well
Speaker 1: wooden whistle or something. But Maze is gonna be just fine.
Speaker 1: West gonna be just fine, Okay, totally. I was still mortified.
Speaker 1: I was still like so like just so like not
Speaker 1: like there was some shame with that. I was like, well,
Speaker 1: I don't like like, I don't like this, and like
Speaker 1: when I grew up, I'm gonna make enough money to
Speaker 1: not have to do this. Ever, so I think I
Speaker 1: internalized that, and now I like, spend too much money
Speaker 1: on ship that I have no business mind. But one
Speaker 1: has always been like that. I've always been shocked by
Speaker 1: the amount of money he's willing to pay, Like I'll
Speaker 1: never forget I'll never forget the sweatshirt. And there was
Speaker 1: there was an iconic famous sweatshirt that I can't believe
Speaker 1: he didn't keep and put in a museum because we were,
Speaker 1: like when I tell you we were broke. We were
Speaker 1: truly broke after college, to the point where like like
Speaker 1: whenever we'd go like on the on trips together for
Speaker 1: for sketch comedy, like some of us wouldn't even go
Speaker 1: to lunch because we couldn't afford it because the trip
Speaker 1: had cost a couple hundred bucks or whatever. But I
Speaker 1: remember one time Bowen got a Mason Kitsune sweatshirt that
Speaker 1: was just a gray crew next sweatshirt and it said
Speaker 1: the reason it costs more than uh seventy truly, and
Speaker 1: I was at the point where I was like, well
Speaker 1: an expensive sweat sure it is, of course forty five bucks.
Speaker 1: I mean that was me at the time. And I
Speaker 1: was like how much was that? And he's like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to tell you. I was like, okay, thinking well,
Speaker 1: that must mean it must have been eighty dollars or something,
Speaker 1: and he goes, he goes, I'll let you guess, and
Speaker 1: I was like, was it eighty dollars? And he was
Speaker 1: like it's more and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 1: And then I went up. I was like, was it
Speaker 1: two hundred fifty dollars? Like thinking that was the wildest
Speaker 1: drilling I should ever say, and he was like, it's
Speaker 1: worth than that, and it was three thirty dollars, three cotton,
Speaker 1: nothing special about it, and I it's very stupid, but
Speaker 1: that's like, no, I'm not really. At the time, we
Speaker 1: were not worth that. And then I couldn't wrap my
Speaker 1: head out it and I couldn't let it go. At
Speaker 1: the time, I was like, because we were making we
Speaker 1: were fully self producing sketch comedy videos for like three dollars.
Speaker 1: I was like, we could have done a popularlette video
Speaker 1: with that. You know, I really couldn't put that money
Speaker 1: towards the video. I like, I've never been a good
Speaker 1: spender of money. I really have it, and I still
Speaker 1: don't think I am um. I love it about you
Speaker 1: now because I love it. I love it. I feel
Speaker 1: like we both could like meet each other more towards
Speaker 1: each other, maybe because I'm trying to be more like you,
Speaker 1: and I feel like in this past year I've really
Speaker 1: been good about it, as you can tell by my diffuser,
Speaker 1: your American dollars diffuser. Yeah, but you know it's only
Speaker 1: with products. With food, it's like money doesn't exist. It
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. I'm paying for everyone bottle, for the table
Speaker 1: tasting menu. It was in experience, yeah, travel and food.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I will believe myself dry for it. But
Speaker 1: you know, now, I really wish you had joined us
Speaker 1: for that one. But in that one place we went,
Speaker 1: what was that was It was like the courses. It
Speaker 1: was called like ola or something, and it was yeah,
Speaker 1: ten course meal was loved. And that was the night
Speaker 1: we were supposed to meet up with you. I think
Speaker 1: it was we were like having the time of our life,
Speaker 1: like drinking miscal being like we're gonna meet up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. No, it's just I think it's
Speaker 1: because I had lost my voice at that point. So
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, I might have COVID,
Speaker 1: Like even more than getting it. I have a fear
Speaker 1: of like giving it to someone and ruining their life.
Speaker 1: And we were filming, and so I was like, and
Speaker 1: that's not to be quite honest, Matt, I was concerned
Speaker 1: about you, the Bowen. I was like, I can't have
Speaker 1: that be Bowen's first impression that I just I had
Speaker 1: just gotten it. So I was like, com I know,
Speaker 1: but you don't. We just have to go back now
Speaker 1: because I want to go to Pejole. Wait, what's Pejole.
Speaker 1: It's like the most famous restaurant in Mexico City. So
Speaker 1: I went to like the more casual place, which was amazing,
Speaker 1: but it's like the stunning it's um Olvera hol don't
Speaker 1: let me look it up. And this is so good
Speaker 1: place that like everybody goes to and it's so lovely. Yes,
Speaker 1: Enrique Olvera. Enrique Olvera, he's like an amazing chef and
Speaker 1: he owned, or maybe did you go to did you
Speaker 1: go to that like Somente slash Cave restaurant by This
Speaker 1: was my second time in Mexico City. The first time
Speaker 1: we did do the Pyramids as well, and I almost
Speaker 1: went to that place, but then it started breaking. The
Speaker 1: food was bad. Honestly so did our driver. He was like,
Speaker 1: you love the experience. But we went down there and
Speaker 1: going this this was have we done this on the pod?
Speaker 1: This guy literally this waiter walks over and he's like
Speaker 1: so confident. He was like, all right, it's so good
Speaker 1: that you guys are here. You have to get the
Speaker 1: drink and this is the finest drink on the menu.
Speaker 1: This will be the drink you remember from this trip.
Speaker 1: You're like, absolutely, let's get that. We're so excited. We're
Speaker 1: like whoa. And then he brings over what was essentially
Speaker 1: mud in a cup. It was like what was It
Speaker 1: was like a weird like not even her chod at
Speaker 1: trying to be no alcohol in it. And then I
Speaker 1: literally wanted to order like this is so funny, this
Speaker 1: is so good a chicken or something, and then this
Speaker 1: wayer goes this Wayer goes to me, No, no, you're
Speaker 1: not getting that, get get this instead. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh about telling me no, it was he was like
Speaker 1: I would like this, No that I respect that, especially
Speaker 1: when in another country and they kind of like put
Speaker 1: you in there in your place, or when I could
Speaker 1: tell being like hustled in another country, I'm like you,
Speaker 1: I'll let it pass because this is your place and
Speaker 1: I'm on your turf. Yes, I mean I think it
Speaker 1: was a little bit of that, because we fully laid
Speaker 1: down on the tracks and let them run over us
Speaker 1: bad and it was everything was so bad. But there
Speaker 1: the experience was cute. It was a gorgeous cave, beauty cave,
Speaker 1: beautiful cave, and the the food and drink was beautiful. Gowns,
Speaker 1: gorgeous gowns, gorgeous gowns. But like haggling, like what was like,
Speaker 1: is there like a moment besides the golden the calculator
Speaker 1: that you remember? There are moments where I remember my parents,
Speaker 1: like like with shoes being like no, we're gonna scream
Speaker 1: at this lady at Macy's too like to pay like
Speaker 1: lass and like this woman like we we can't, we
Speaker 1: can't do that. I'm so sorry, and me being so embarrassed, mortified,
Speaker 1: oh for sure. I mean it was always peak in India.
Speaker 1: But now when you go shop in India, they literally
Speaker 1: have signs in the clothing stores that are like set prices,
Speaker 1: fixed prices, and it's all bar code, but like back
Speaker 1: then they were writing it by paper and it's like
Speaker 1: full screaming matches a lot of the clothing stores. Also,
Speaker 1: you take your shoes off and you're like sitting on
Speaker 1: this big padded thing and they're like just throwing around
Speaker 1: sorrys and stuff, and it's like you make a big
Speaker 1: pile of off that you're gonna buy and then you're
Speaker 1: like the right numbers and we're like no this. And
Speaker 1: then literally I guess to the point where my mom
Speaker 1: will just like, for example, if they're like no pay us,
Speaker 1: and my mom, I'm only doing twelve for matter of
Speaker 1: three hundred groupies, which is like, you know, like dollars,
Speaker 1: that's not the right commotion, but you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like at the end, that's like what am I arguing about?
Speaker 1: But like she'll just take out twelve hundred and then
Speaker 1: she'll just like put it out and start walking out
Speaker 1: and start gathering her stuff, and they'd be like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I really can't, and she's like, they can put it
Speaker 1: in their hand. And I was like, I love it.
Speaker 1: It's a boss. That's so cool. It really is. And
Speaker 1: also it's it's about the principle it is, and it's
Speaker 1: also about yourself interactions. Yes, it's a yeah no, But
Speaker 1: now I feel like in her older age, she's very
Speaker 1: much about like living a more like stress free life.
Speaker 1: And so she's like doing that because she's put in
Speaker 1: the work. She's put in the hour, the work. There
Speaker 1: you go. Now she has to enjoy. Yeah, you gotta enjoy.
Speaker 1: It is interesting when you see your parents turn a
Speaker 1: corner on their personality, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like my dad was always very impatient and like he
Speaker 1: sort of I think he had a temper and now
Speaker 1: not in a bad way, but he was just very
Speaker 1: quick to be like, what are you talking about? Like
Speaker 1: like now I see him more chilled out. Um. But
Speaker 1: it was such a thing about his personality, his whole life.
Speaker 1: And it was so funny because his favorite singer is
Speaker 1: Jimmy Buffett, who's like, you can tell it's just my dad.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's conscious of it, but like,
Speaker 1: of course his favorite singer would be like the personification
Speaker 1: of vacation. But you know what I mean, like literally
Speaker 1: because he needed that to like chill um. But nowadays
Speaker 1: it's it is funny because like so you're saying, your
Speaker 1: mom is now no longer like this. I think for them,
Speaker 1: it's not like they had some like spiritual awakening. I
Speaker 1: think they just got tired and they fired and they're
Speaker 1: like and they like starts and they're like they're just tired.
Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you where abouts in Florida? Are
Speaker 1: you from Vero Beach. It's like this little town about
Speaker 1: like two and a half three hours north of Miami
Speaker 1: on the East coast. It's like half trash whites, half
Speaker 1: rich trash whites and the like. Now there's more Indian families.
Speaker 1: When my parents moved there, there was like five Indian families.
Speaker 1: And then it's a large cittrus producing county suffers like
Speaker 1: a large migrant worker population as well. It's an interesting place.
Speaker 1: It's like kind of feels like one of those places
Speaker 1: that's been forgotten about when you go there, because it's
Speaker 1: like I think, like over pandemic. My mom's like big
Speaker 1: news was like the pizza hut close like they don't
Speaker 1: even have Pizza Hut anymore, so they have the word
Speaker 1: from Dominoes. Let's have that conversation. Dominos is better. Actually,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Pizza Hut is better? Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: That feels like a betrayal you guys personal pan and
Speaker 1: also like growing up, did you did you? Did you
Speaker 1: not hit up the buffet at lunch time? The best
Speaker 1: ranch I've ever had in my life to this day,
Speaker 1: Pizza Hupafe, Pizzapa fe was like a savior, was a
Speaker 1: lifeline to immigrant diaspora populations. And the orange soda their
Speaker 1: best orange. I don't know what the extra fizz bring
Speaker 1: back orange soda, to be honest, yeah, I would love that.
Speaker 1: Why why did that? Why did that? Like, honestly go away?
Speaker 1: You are so right by the way Hansa saying, um
Speaker 1: can confirmed pizza. Okay, I really thought I was in
Speaker 1: a Domino's house. I'm not shipped tucking Pizza Hut, and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna put Pizza Hut down because I'm a
Speaker 1: Domino's girl, you know what I mean? That that's not
Speaker 1: the type of person I am or whatever want to be,
Speaker 1: but I will that there are things about Dominoes that
Speaker 1: people don't even talk about, which are superior, the cheesy bread,
Speaker 1: the wings. Honey, they have some of the best wings.
Speaker 1: And it's happening at Dominoes, and it's happening tonight. Actually
Speaker 1: it is around the country, Matt. I have to remind Matt,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, one time we were shooting a popuar
Speaker 1: Lett sketch. We were shooting a sketch in my apartment
Speaker 1: and there was like, you know, a crew of like
Speaker 1: four people, and I wanted to order like four Domino's
Speaker 1: pizzas to feed everybody. This was Matt. This was facebook crazy. Yes,
Speaker 1: I remember this night, but I don't remember this. I
Speaker 1: want to. I want to say I ordered the Domino's pizzas.
Speaker 1: It was like five pm. I don't know, it was
Speaker 1: like seven pm. I was like, okay, Max's amount of
Speaker 1: time and a lot is like an hour for those
Speaker 1: pizzas together. I was like, now I remember this. This
Speaker 1: was iconic. It was like four blocks away. And then
Speaker 1: basically it's not that interesting a story, but basically it
Speaker 1: was delayed for three and a half hour. Was shocking.
Speaker 1: They didn't they did not competed always get I just
Speaker 1: just at a charge, but I just didn't recognize. And
Speaker 1: then after they comped it, I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's because I bought my cousin's book and it was
Speaker 1: the press that sold her book. How do you do it?
Speaker 1: Because I'm I'm too I'm not brave enough to ever dispute.
Speaker 1: Always dispute. I will dispute for you. If you ever
Speaker 1: have a dispute, I will take the time and do
Speaker 1: it for you. Just can we just like role play
Speaker 1: right now? Like I'm so nice about it? Oh? Really,
Speaker 1: that's how you do it. I always feel like I
Speaker 1: always kind of tipped the aggression too much and then
Speaker 1: they go, no, no, that, So you have to just
Speaker 1: be confident but nice. So I'll be like, hey, so
Speaker 1: I was looking through my statement and I noticed this
Speaker 1: charge from Austin p S. State University. And you know,
Speaker 1: I live in l A. I haven't been to Austin
Speaker 1: in years, and I didn't even know that was a university.
Speaker 1: So I all my statements, I've gone through all my
Speaker 1: purchases I keep on our sipts live and I live.
Speaker 1: We cannot find this transaction. And so I'm just concerned
Speaker 1: that maybe my information was leaked somehow and I shouldn't
Speaker 1: prevent further charges, so could you, you know, put an
Speaker 1: alert on that and maybe comp that and just send
Speaker 1: it hard And they're like, oh yeah, sure, sure. And
Speaker 1: then after and then my cousin's book came in the
Speaker 1: mail and I opened it up. And when the press said, wow,
Speaker 1: small independent pressars, I scammed them out of I feel
Speaker 1: very bad. That's the one thing I do feel bad about.
Speaker 1: That public apology is yes, okay, but see but you
Speaker 1: do have to go through the trouble of getting a
Speaker 1: new card then right, well for that, but other times,
Speaker 1: well yeah, because then they'll put a fraud alert. But
Speaker 1: I ain't going nowhere. I have multiple credit cards. Well no,
Speaker 1: of course, saying but like you know, but what I
Speaker 1: what I love is auto phil my my browser knowing
Speaker 1: my cards. And it's like one of them greatest inventions,
Speaker 1: the greatest inventions, one of the most dangerous inventions as well.
Speaker 1: It's a double edged sword essentially, why they came up
Speaker 1: with that expression double edged word. That's why they say
Speaker 1: it's double dangerous. But yeah, I'm not doing it now.
Speaker 1: I don't want to give the impression that I'm doing
Speaker 1: it on charges that I outright no that I but
Speaker 1: I will get a complex if I order something delivery,
Speaker 1: but I will also always be sure to make it
Speaker 1: blame it on the company and not the driver, because
Speaker 1: I'm also not trying to get anyone fired. So I said,
Speaker 1: the driver was great, he was really communicative. Dada, the
Speaker 1: app told me this, and that a misquoted so and
Speaker 1: I pulled this a lot and be like, and I
Speaker 1: ordered food for a party, and my guests were hungry,
Speaker 1: as I always ordered, and that is a huge, huge,
Speaker 1: huge sort of like that language is, yes, and my
Speaker 1: guests were left hungry and it was so embarrassing and
Speaker 1: I had to spend extra money to then go out
Speaker 1: and get more food because your app misquoted me and
Speaker 1: it is an error on Uber's. And then I explicitly
Speaker 1: say I want to reiterate that the driver was amazing.
Speaker 1: He was great. He had no part in this error, right,
Speaker 1: And I wonder if you ever tell them, you know,
Speaker 1: if if I'm just you know, going back in time,
Speaker 1: the sketch comedy crew that was at my apartment was hungry.
Speaker 1: And yes, I was there shooting producing sketch comedy with
Speaker 1: my best friend Matt. Yeah, we when we were tell him,
Speaker 1: we were tired while we acted. Yes, the camera picks
Speaker 1: up on everything, especially are very subtle gorgeous acting in
Speaker 1: the sketch Facebook Crazy, which I believe is still it's
Speaker 1: still up online. I think it's I got a Google
Speaker 1: someone someone. Okay, now this might be my I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, Like, if you have to, if you
Speaker 1: watch your old acting when you were like, no one's
Speaker 1: going to see this, but when someone stumbles upon, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh god, especially when you become Bow and Yang noted
Speaker 1: legend of sketch comedy. And then they go back and
Speaker 1: find your old sketches and you're like, oh yeah, back
Speaker 1: here when I wasn't good. But as they leave it up, No,
Speaker 1: Matty wrote Matt and Duty two people involved, and I
Speaker 1: loved that for you wrote this sketch Facebook Crazy, and
Speaker 1: it started myself and it was about get this. This
Speaker 1: was cutting edge at the time people on Facebook who
Speaker 1: acted crazy. But at the time it was like it
Speaker 1: used to cry it used to crazy viral again because
Speaker 1: of this episode. I mean, the readers will definitely want
Speaker 1: the readers will watch it, but but you have to
Speaker 1: understand this is a different time. This yeah, when like
Speaker 1: being being like unhinged on Facebook or on social media
Speaker 1: was a very specific thing, like in your community, and
Speaker 1: it was not this like societal problem and which is
Speaker 1: which it is obviously not become anyway, did you ever
Speaker 1: get buck wild on Facebook? You know, not as much
Speaker 1: on Facebook, because I think by the time I hit
Speaker 1: social media, I was like, oh, the internet is not
Speaker 1: a safe space. But where I was a hinge where
Speaker 1: I think it's stem from aim away messages, talk about
Speaker 1: talking about what a typical put away message was, Like
Speaker 1: I'm talking dashboard confessional lyrics, ghost of a good thing,
Speaker 1: emotional lyrics, ghost have a good thing. I'm chasing the
Speaker 1: ghost of a good thing. I was single, I was
Speaker 1: seeing anybody. No one had broken up with me or
Speaker 1: broken my heart because no one had dated me. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, very emotional, very long aim away messages just
Speaker 1: so people could be like, hey, what's wrong. I'm okay,
Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about it. I used to
Speaker 1: put I used to put dashboard confessional lyrics in my
Speaker 1: in my profile and all my messages too, And it
Speaker 1: would literally be like and you kissed me like you
Speaker 1: meant it, but like vertical like you meant it, and
Speaker 1: then but and Also it was such a thing of
Speaker 1: trying to seem like you were in her own Manton
Speaker 1: conflict for like a stressful group, dynamic situation with your
Speaker 1: friends when everything was fine and like nothing was happening.
Speaker 1: I am so dramatically. You know about song Brandy, have
Speaker 1: you ever? Have you ever loved somebody? So? I used
Speaker 1: to listen to that song and cry because my answer
Speaker 1: was no, because I have never loved someone. It was
Speaker 1: like in high school and I'd be like, no, I
Speaker 1: haven't loved someone. That song is epic and Diane Warren
Speaker 1: wrote it really yes, someone does someone someoney to sample
Speaker 1: on it recently, like like like one of these new
Speaker 1: R and B girls did a sample. We just talked
Speaker 1: about Brandy Um. Actually Boonen was on my HBO Max
Speaker 1: Movie podcast and we talked about how Brandy played Roxy
Speaker 1: Heart on Broadway in Chicago, and she was like like
Speaker 1: like a few years, three or four years ago, yeah,
Speaker 1: within the last decade, Um, but she she was iconic
Speaker 1: for adding riffs to the score to that candor at score,
Speaker 1: like the name on Everybody Live, like giving her like
Speaker 1: iconic Brandy vocals and ever rats soundtrack. Have you ever
Speaker 1: one of the hardest songs to sing. It's so hard
Speaker 1: because there's like there's an epic key changeup when she
Speaker 1: goes have you ever a new and she just makes
Speaker 1: it sound so effortless because she's so crying. Yeah, the cry,
Speaker 1: the wailing and pain and her voice. And I had
Speaker 1: one of those boom boxes that had a little remote
Speaker 1: control with it. But my boom box was right next
Speaker 1: to my bed, but i'd like lay in bed with
Speaker 1: the remote control just so I could be like repeat, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: remember back in the day to when you there was
Speaker 1: no Spotify there and you had to either buy the
Speaker 1: album or what I would do, and maybe you guys
Speaker 1: identified with this was whenever my parents and I would
Speaker 1: like go out for dinner or whatever, I would put
Speaker 1: a cassette in my radio and put on from radio
Speaker 1: and just hit record, and then when I got home,
Speaker 1: I would listen to the whole thing to see if
Speaker 1: I had happened to catch speaking of Brandy the Boy
Speaker 1: is Mine, you know what I mean? I remember The
Speaker 1: Boy is Mine. I wish it was just was very
Speaker 1: high placed on the Great Global Song Book, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much. Um it was I I was chasing that
Speaker 1: song as a little fag all over town, Honey. I
Speaker 1: needed it, and I eventually did get it on a cassette,
Speaker 1: and I would just rewind that ship cassette culture cassette. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean the music video, very historic moment for feminism
Speaker 1: and video where it opens and then she's there. Then
Speaker 1: they combined forces because they're like, it's not going to
Speaker 1: turn us against each other. We need to talk about
Speaker 1: this more. We haven't talked about the music video enough.
Speaker 1: We always talk about the music itself on the boys video, right,
Speaker 1: Can I just quickly talk about though, this teenage thing
Speaker 1: that for our generation was aim away messages being very dramatic,
Speaker 1: pretending you were in love or pretending you were you
Speaker 1: knew anything about a relationship. Like this makes me think
Speaker 1: now about have you guys watched The Girl The Girl
Speaker 1: from Plain Villiet? No, but I watched the original documentary Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but great, But first episode like at the end where
Speaker 1: she's like spoiler alert where she like acts alongside Lea,
Speaker 1: Michelle and Glee like contend thing to cry like or
Speaker 1: not pretending to but crying saying the same lines as her, Like,
Speaker 1: that's a different that for like that generation. It's like,
Speaker 1: let me like I need to, like, I don't have
Speaker 1: the vocabulary yet to really express this, this this kind
Speaker 1: of feeling I have and I can attach it to
Speaker 1: my own reality yet, And so let me like I
Speaker 1: would do that with Graze Anatomy all the time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know that you would. Well, I I used
Speaker 1: to it to Lost. I would quote I would quote
Speaker 1: it to myself. Yeah, I would do it too, Lost,
Speaker 1: And honestly, oftentimes it was silent the stuff that I
Speaker 1: was doing. So I remember, I'll never forget when Sun
Speaker 1: was leaving Jim uh and season one, episode six of
Speaker 1: Lost and she is in the airport and that iconic
Speaker 1: scores playing that no No No, and I love the
Speaker 1: score of Scoose for me, this was literally the moment
Speaker 1: where I decided I wanted to be in television. I
Speaker 1: wanted to write television act on television. Was watching Young
Speaker 1: Jin can him walk away from Daniel Day Kim And
Speaker 1: then she turned over her shoulder and the score was playing,
Speaker 1: and he lifted up the orchid and like it was
Speaker 1: the first nice thing he had done for her in
Speaker 1: like years of them being married, and she decides to
Speaker 1: turn back around and get on the plane, and then
Speaker 1: the plane crashes and they they're they're marooned on the island.
Speaker 1: But I was like, this wordless thing. And I used
Speaker 1: to watch it again and again and I would be
Speaker 1: crying and crying and crying, and it was it was
Speaker 1: a way to access emotion for me. Yeah, yeah, now
Speaker 1: you know what to watch. You know. Sometimes still to
Speaker 1: this day. And one of the things I tried when
Speaker 1: I had to get emotional and I love that for
Speaker 1: you was I was listening to the Big Fish soundtrack
Speaker 1: because that movie. That's great. John August listens to this
Speaker 1: podcast sometimes and he wrote the movie. And one of
Speaker 1: the most one of the most prized things in my
Speaker 1: life is knowing that he likes this podcast and he
Speaker 1: wrote that movie. I love that movie. And at the
Speaker 1: end when um, when he's telling the story to his
Speaker 1: father about um, how they get him to the river
Speaker 1: and the music is planning. I sometimes will still trigger
Speaker 1: myself with that and it works most of the time.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. And in the end where we're like,
Speaker 1: he wasn't lying, right, he was just exaggerating. That was
Speaker 1: my first exposure to Helen A. Bottom Carter. I was like,
Speaker 1: who the hell is this woman? She was amazing in
Speaker 1: that and then Tim Burton, you know, used her a
Speaker 1: million times and I don't know, well, we love her,
Speaker 1: I don't know why. I mean, look, she can just
Speaker 1: she can come on my screen. You know what I
Speaker 1: really liked about HBC when I watched the Harry Potter
Speaker 1: documentary that just came out on HBO, she was so
Speaker 1: like flirty with Daniel Radcliffe and she was literally she
Speaker 1: basically was making jokes like She's like yeah, and I
Speaker 1: remember when I remember on this dumb this day on set,
Speaker 1: like she was like basically was like making crass like
Speaker 1: sex jokes with Daniel Radcliffe and you can tell you
Speaker 1: have such like a little cheeky little relationship and like
Speaker 1: she's so much older than him, but like you can
Speaker 1: tell they really get along like a house on fire.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, she's a she seems like
Speaker 1: a blast. Oh yeah, she's like a fun witch. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like it's rule culture number eleven is a fun
Speaker 1: She's like a fun which speaking of fun witches, I
Speaker 1: think the three of us should be fun little bitches. Yeah,
Speaker 1: ready for this absolute segment. It's a lost culture is
Speaker 1: a staple really happens every time. It's just like her
Speaker 1: Domino's What's happening every night and every across the country
Speaker 1: every week on last Coltureason as we do. I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. And this is a sex sixty second segment.
Speaker 1: It's a sexty sixty second segment um where we really
Speaker 1: got something in culture that we don't like very much. Yeah. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: matthe you have something, sure do Okay, So Matt and
Speaker 1: I will go first and then and then we'll be
Speaker 1: put on stern. This is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: and your time starts now. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: Stamps and the need for them in the year of
Speaker 1: our Lord too, I have to say, I have been
Speaker 1: so late r s v ping to my dear friend
Speaker 1: Sam's wedding from high school because I don't have a
Speaker 1: stamp and I need to go get a stamp to
Speaker 1: mail the r s v P back And where do
Speaker 1: you even get them? Where do you get them? And
Speaker 1: I literally went to I literally went out of my
Speaker 1: house and had to walk the streets and say excuse me.
Speaker 1: I went. I went to girlsons and I said, do
Speaker 1: you guys have stamps? And they were like yeah, And
Speaker 1: she had to think about it because they don't even
Speaker 1: know they have them. They had them, But then I
Speaker 1: thought I had to go to the quote unquote post
Speaker 1: office for a step. I never even heard of this
Speaker 1: place before. Then to come to find my good friend
Speaker 1: sam my dearest had put a stamp on the envelope
Speaker 1: the whole time. So I try to just use my
Speaker 1: fun your eyes how about that the next time? But
Speaker 1: it was a wild goose chase for stamps. And I
Speaker 1: just feel like, how come we can do email, we
Speaker 1: can have space satellites, and we still need stamps. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's one minute. Wow. It feels like we
Speaker 1: can do incredible things in this world. Medicine has come
Speaker 1: such a long way. I really think it has. There
Speaker 1: has been so many advancements in technology. The one thing
Speaker 1: we still need to do which doesn't make any sense,
Speaker 1: it's giving Pony Express, it's giving cassette tape, it's getting
Speaker 1: FM radio. Thank you King very much, agree, and its stamps.
Speaker 1: I would donate a million dollars to the US Postal
Speaker 1: Service so that they could stay aflow and so that
Speaker 1: they can go no more stamps for you for the
Speaker 1: rest of the year. I just feel like, why can't
Speaker 1: we just I'm really at a loss words, as you
Speaker 1: can tell. But if you could have those stamps off
Speaker 1: of your your mail, would you? Absolutely? And I missed
Speaker 1: stamped something before and cut it off and taped it
Speaker 1: onto another envelope because it's not even just that stamps
Speaker 1: are expensive, it's the journey you have to go through
Speaker 1: to get them. Yes, and in July a stamp will
Speaker 1: be sixty cents. I can't be right. What are you
Speaker 1: talking about? Get in here? Is this inflation in America?
Speaker 1: In America? No way, dog dog, I'll be sending a
Speaker 1: Marco Polo? Thank you? Where did you hear that? It's true?
Speaker 1: I read the article two days ago and I just
Speaker 1: looked it up again. Sixty cents starting July? What do
Speaker 1: they used to be? I think it was right? Oh
Speaker 1: my god? What does the article say about the reasoning
Speaker 1: for this? The bad economy? And first stamp covers the
Speaker 1: price of a one ounce letter doesn't say, oh, I
Speaker 1: guess I'm not buying a house this here? Well? Maybe
Speaker 1: how about how about this? Don't buy any stamps? Didn't
Speaker 1: budget is all up? My stamp budget? All right, thanks Doug,
Speaker 1: Thanks Doug. Um. Well that was that talking and I
Speaker 1: will say things. Things really are getting more expensive. I
Speaker 1: went down the street the other day and gas was seven.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't know. You guys do it
Speaker 1: over there and drive you. I do drive, and I
Speaker 1: hate it. And then after I'm done driving in l A,
Speaker 1: I like think about my drive and I get like
Speaker 1: anxiety of like, oh my gosh, that was dangerous. I
Speaker 1: did that or answered that text and I could have
Speaker 1: run myself off the road. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: why I have to. Like the other day, I was like,
Speaker 1: I had my phone in my hand and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I have to fucking put this down. And it's not
Speaker 1: like nothing needs my attention as much as the road. Also,
Speaker 1: our commute to work was long as ship. It was
Speaker 1: very bad. Yeah you guys were where Studio City, Culver
Speaker 1: Culver City. Oh yeah, alright, well stamps not a fan? Now,
Speaker 1: bon Yang? Do you have And I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: that you'd like to do um? I think so I
Speaker 1: just got and I just got. I keep getting these
Speaker 1: notifications of like, hey, COVID was around you, okay, was
Speaker 1: already so by it was in me to me, all right,
Speaker 1: bon Yang, this is your I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: And your time starts now, I don't think so, honey,
Speaker 1: reminding me of a web series I was a part of.
Speaker 1: I didn't remember what the web series was. That was
Speaker 1: just a dark time in all of our lives in
Speaker 1: the culture. It was a dark time in sort of
Speaker 1: content production. This was when we were all being lied
Speaker 1: to and told that um engagement on Facebook was really
Speaker 1: really amazing when no one was watching them, and so
Speaker 1: what was it all for? Anyway? Maybe I learned a
Speaker 1: thing or two about being on camera. I don't think
Speaker 1: I learned that much. And now there's this permanent sort of,
Speaker 1: you know, immortalization of my bad acting, and I don't
Speaker 1: want people to necessarily make any judgments on that. And gosh,
Speaker 1: I really hope that we all fifteen stop posting them
Speaker 1: at least or tagging me in in stories so that
Speaker 1: I had to remember that I did a bad job
Speaker 1: or did a terrible line read in summer. Um, I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Um me not coming in as
Speaker 1: a fully formed actor from day one, And that's a minute.
Speaker 1: I'm going to um say, I hear you, my sister,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to do exactly what you said not
Speaker 1: to do and tell you that, you know what was
Speaker 1: actually funny. But the web series that we did that
Speaker 1: Mike Spence did, which was the Couple's Therapy, Couples Therapy,
Speaker 1: that was actually really fun I don't know, Spencer, my
Speaker 1: my my partner and that with Spencer Novak, and he
Speaker 1: was funny, but I was not. And my partner was
Speaker 1: one STUDI Green. First of all, that's a lie. You
Speaker 1: were so good now you and Studio were played a couple.
Speaker 1: There was so Sudie and I played a couple that
Speaker 1: you that met because they were Abcrombie models and then
Speaker 1: and Sudie had Sudie had decided to not be a
Speaker 1: model anymore and like pivot to like washing her body
Speaker 1: with like charcoal and stuff, like she became like a
Speaker 1: vegan like or something like that. And she was so
Speaker 1: funny and it but we were so dumb. But that
Speaker 1: was actually funny. And sorry, but I I hear you,
Speaker 1: my sister, I repeat, but I had to. I had
Speaker 1: to bring that one up. I cringe. I cringe. It's humbling.
Speaker 1: Were you a part of web series culture? Yeah? Yeah
Speaker 1: for sure. And you know what really always annoyed me
Speaker 1: is when people that were my peers were like starting
Speaker 1: kickstarters for their web series and I'm like, so you
Speaker 1: think you five dollars when I'm also trying to make one,
Speaker 1: and like this is like really cringe ick thing that
Speaker 1: people would do. There was this these three white, straight,
Speaker 1: white guys that tried to do this web series and
Speaker 1: I remember, like, you know, because it was like, if
Speaker 1: you donate this much, you'll get this. If you don't,
Speaker 1: it was like, if you donate this much, we'll come
Speaker 1: watch your improv show and give you notes. And I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, God, it's like every bad
Speaker 1: thing from that time wrapped up like what it was like,
Speaker 1: if you do this, you can be a featured extra.
Speaker 1: I was like, in your web series featured extra? What
Speaker 1: does that even me? I still don't know. The one
Speaker 1: that gets me the most is one its It was
Speaker 1: it would be like and if you donate this much,
Speaker 1: you can be an executive producer. And it's like, what
Speaker 1: the fund does that even mean? It's like it means
Speaker 1: I get like a title card in your web series
Speaker 1: viewed by sixty people. Well, I guess we were all
Speaker 1: trying our best. We were all trying our best. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were all trying our best. And also the part
Speaker 1: that scares me about my old work because like we
Speaker 1: used to like record our improv shows and sometimes is
Speaker 1: that like when I first started comedy, I thought like
Speaker 1: accent equals comedy. I think we all, we all would
Speaker 1: be really shocked and jarred if we were to go
Speaker 1: back in time and listen to the accidents that we like.
Speaker 1: And also I think I was on a team with
Speaker 1: a bunch of like against raight white men who just
Speaker 1: came out there and talked, so I felt like I
Speaker 1: needed to do so much. It would literally come out
Speaker 1: there's like a hunched over Jamaican man. Yeah, and it's
Speaker 1: like not not a great look, right, and oh God,
Speaker 1: like it's all contextualized by the circumstances whatever that means.
Speaker 1: I'm speaking so generally and broadly anyway. I also think
Speaker 1: there was that there was that time in the beginning
Speaker 1: when we were all doing comedy where it's like we're
Speaker 1: talking about accent work for gay men that exclusively meant
Speaker 1: talking like a black woman, which which which I don't
Speaker 1: even think we realized was something that was insane to
Speaker 1: do until like two were until two recently, And I
Speaker 1: think about how many times I went out there and
Speaker 1: did quote unquote gay voice. But if I really were
Speaker 1: to think about it, it it was actually like, you know,
Speaker 1: talking a black woman in a way that chills me
Speaker 1: to my core, of course, and there was no one
Speaker 1: there to say anything, and I didn't know any better. No,
Speaker 1: we really didn't know any better. Also, my accents were bad.
Speaker 1: They weren't even good accents. They like melded five different
Speaker 1: cultures into one. We couldn't afford an accident coach. No,
Speaker 1: I did not have a dialect coach when I was
Speaker 1: at Io. No, we couldn't afford lunch. They should hire
Speaker 1: every comedy theater if they return and choose to hire
Speaker 1: dialect coach. Isn't it funny that they're gone most of them?
Speaker 1: It's sad, It's crazy. All right, this is but do
Speaker 1: you have a nine things? So, honey? I do? Okay,
Speaker 1: this is I don't think so honey, in her time
Speaker 1: starts now, I don't think so, honey. High fives, high
Speaker 1: fiving the jarre end even. Do not high five me.
Speaker 1: If you try to high five me, I'm going to
Speaker 1: like hold both my hands together in a fist and
Speaker 1: one may land on your person. I hate high five.
Speaker 1: I've always hated high fives, even before we stopped like
Speaker 1: touching hands during COVID, Like, I don't understand why. Like
Speaker 1: palm to palm impact is like positive. We're like celebrating,
Speaker 1: but hitting each other. It's violence. Also, palms are gross
Speaker 1: and they're like the bottom of your feet. For hands,
Speaker 1: they're sweaty, they're sticky, they're like so too soft. I'll
Speaker 1: say it hurts. And now I've touched everything you touched.
Speaker 1: They're just like met for fingerprints, And like, what are
Speaker 1: we Why are we teaching kids and dogs to high five?
Speaker 1: Like what do you get out of it? Almost certainly
Speaker 1: if you're a significant other ever tries to high five,
Speaker 1: you report them to the police. And that's one minute. Wow,
Speaker 1: you're so right. I don't know what what? How did
Speaker 1: it happen? Yeah, we got to look into this. It's
Speaker 1: bad dogs. Dogs. Dogs don't know what it means children dogs.
Speaker 1: Why I think it's cute when a dog puts pop
Speaker 1: to me. The dog doesn't know what okay, because he's
Speaker 1: a gentleman. It's formal. This dog don't wear shoes. Do
Speaker 1: you like that's so true? Do you like handshakes? Don't
Speaker 1: love a handshake. Really don't love a fist bump, and
Speaker 1: I don't like this elbow thing we're doing that has
Speaker 1: really risen in prominence and oh god no, and it's
Speaker 1: odd because like my number one love language is physical touch,
Speaker 1: but not that physical touch. No, it's like give it
Speaker 1: to me full or don't give it to me at all,
Speaker 1: or not give me a full hug from behind, like
Speaker 1: hip to hip, something grabbed my shoulders something, but don't
Speaker 1: just like, oh no, no, jerk at me. And it's
Speaker 1: too bro. This is too like bro. And also people
Speaker 1: don't like they especially when they're excited. It hurts you,
Speaker 1: honestly that you're so right about that, and I think
Speaker 1: that it's it's really become. I don't know what it
Speaker 1: is when someone gives a really hard high five, because
Speaker 1: if I'm gonna high five, I at least want to
Speaker 1: feel like I did it successfully, and that means you
Speaker 1: gotta clean crisp, you know what I mean. And that's
Speaker 1: another thing about high five culture is if you miss
Speaker 1: it or the high five is bad, it goes you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, It's terrible. It's really terrible. It
Speaker 1: can only be I've only done high fives as a
Speaker 1: bit in the last year. I gotta say, I it's
Speaker 1: just a bit like yeah, like yeah, brother, like that
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah, I love to high five a
Speaker 1: straight guy and go all right, brother, here you go yo,
Speaker 1: brother's sick day to day. Brother, Yeah, it's really good
Speaker 1: to see you today, brother. Gross. Well, well listen, I
Speaker 1: think this wasn't a fabulous episode. I think I'm so
Speaker 1: happy we talked about hagline. I hope you don't still
Speaker 1: feel shamed. Oh no, not at all. Now. I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: whatever my parents want to do, Like my mom will
Speaker 1: still have a lot at a garage still, which is
Speaker 1: the place to do it, like exct place to do it.
Speaker 1: She'll do that still. And I'm like, please, God, bless
Speaker 1: Now I'm like whatever they want, like let them be
Speaker 1: live your life. They've been through too much also, truly,
Speaker 1: And I'm not just saying this as a bit, like
Speaker 1: I know the anxiety that can come from like talking
Speaker 1: to customer service and like all that stuff. So I
Speaker 1: really will do it for you, oh my god, Like
Speaker 1: I've done it for friends before because they have such
Speaker 1: anxiety around it, Like I really will do it, or
Speaker 1: like if we're at a restaurant, you might need to
Speaker 1: coach me through it. Yeah, because I here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I know. I'm nice about it, and I don't make
Speaker 1: people feel bad when I do it, So that's why
Speaker 1: I don't mind doing it. Great, great, as long as
Speaker 1: and you have a very kind voice too, very kind,
Speaker 1: thank you, but kind, but like clear and like it's it.
Speaker 1: People people understand what you're trying to say. They feel safe.
Speaker 1: I think I kind of like talk around stuff too
Speaker 1: much and people are like, what is he doing? But
Speaker 1: I feel like with you there's a safety and I
Speaker 1: really really love that. I feel like every time you
Speaker 1: talk to you sound really intelligent, even if you're talking
Speaker 1: about something like dumb. I don't think so. He has
Speaker 1: a vast vocabulary. We're not doing that. It's one of
Speaker 1: his It's one of his gorgeous traits. I will also say,
Speaker 1: I will also say, you know what's fun about and
Speaker 1: we'll circle it back. But and I love that for you.
Speaker 1: We often do hear your voice sort of disemblydic voice,
Speaker 1: because because you're often speaking as the producer into the
Speaker 1: ears of Joanna Gold played by Vanessa Bayer, and so often.
Speaker 1: In fact, I just saw one of the new episodes,
Speaker 1: and it's just a bit about like Joanna is selling
Speaker 1: leatherette pants and you're like, and you don't say leather,
Speaker 1: say leatherette, and she and Vanessa's on and she's like
Speaker 1: and the thing about leather pants, and you just go.
Speaker 1: You just hear put on his voice go leatherette perfect.
Speaker 1: And product names are like, what are the best parts
Speaker 1: of so funny? What was what was the place? Mats
Speaker 1: by the by the by the time I was saying that,
Speaker 1: like on camera, it had totally faded away from me
Speaker 1: as something funny. And then when I watched the premiere,
Speaker 1: like and I said, and we're gonna start your Monday
Speaker 1: five am with the Genine by Genine placements and tablescapes,
Speaker 1: and I was like that sentence is insane, and people
Speaker 1: were laughing at it, and I was like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: it sounds completely forgotten. Yeah, you're like backyard grill things
Speaker 1: into blasters, Tandy fit Woody blasters, Like what is that? Even?
Speaker 1: I want to buy it? I want to buy it.
Speaker 1: They are price cutting the plai adelfon margarita makers and
Speaker 1: also the bar in episode three is called stock Canteen.
Speaker 1: Laughed at that at that establishing shot, don't it's talking
Speaker 1: and then they cut to like like you guys walking
Speaker 1: in and it's just a neontime that has surveys down.
Speaker 1: I'm like, so fun fact about that. That is the
Speaker 1: bar from the L word. We want to and they
Speaker 1: are decorated it or are directed it to be to
Speaker 1: be like a like a Mexican themed bars, the bar
Speaker 1: from the L word. Okay, And that's movie magic. And
Speaker 1: if you want to see more of that and the
Speaker 1: magic that has put up his performance, you can stream
Speaker 1: I Love That for you on Fridays on the Showtime
Speaker 1: app or watch live Sundays at on Showtime. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: thank you for knowing the info. I know all the
Speaker 1: info in what a joy it is to have you
Speaker 1: and what a glorious light you are. Ah, this has
Speaker 1: been so so fun. I've been looking forward to this
Speaker 1: for weeks and we had every episode with the song,
Speaker 1: and the song is have you had so lie? So
Speaker 1: you need my baby leave me? He would come all right,
Speaker 1: hennywhere Hi Wow? So listen to that. Listen dude, never
Speaker 1: Seen Never the album Fine Bye