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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Barrie, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Beck Now live in Ohio on eight

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Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bo Bishop and

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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Oh not entirely true, broadcasting live from the NFL Scouting

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Speaker 2: Combine in lovely Indianapolis, Indiana.

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Speaker 3: Merely both the great Sea. Look at us. We're back.

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Speaker 3: We're back, baby, We're back, and we're loving it. It's ah,

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Speaker 3: what a lunch, great lunch, What a deal, A great

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Speaker 3: deal down there to pick three. You hear about this

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Speaker 3: down at the down at the Harriet is he thanks

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Speaker 3: for bringing it back. What it was? It was a bar.

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Speaker 3: It was a bar set up.

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Speaker 2: You got we see SATs, that's right, got in there

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Speaker 2: and uh little little filet steak sandwiches, little sliders. The

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Speaker 2: file at sandwich was spectacular, was great. But I didn't

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Speaker 2: think there was a chance you'd get a fry on

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Speaker 2: top of all the rest of it because it came

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Speaker 2: with a salad and a cock tosh from cocktail.

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Speaker 3: And the cocktail was they crank it up. They're like, okay,

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Speaker 3: you're here for the comment, We're gonna put on a

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Speaker 3: show for you.

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Speaker 2: The loyal listeners know that there that I had a

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Speaker 2: near death experience, legitimately, so legitimately thought it was all

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Speaker 2: took one bite and I teared up, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to consume it all. I love it, but

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Speaker 2: we're gonna scrape a lot of that white off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how I was off a little bit. So

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Speaker 3: that's the way that that goes. I was all in. Yeah, delicious, delightful,

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Speaker 3: real true.

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Speaker 2: And Andarent Andrew Berry is he's addressing is he's on

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Speaker 2: his way, he's coming right. Oh, it's a fantastic it's

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Speaker 2: a it's a nice khaki hoodie a B is is

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Speaker 2: wearing as he walks over here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's great. There he is. And then that's for

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Speaker 3: we had. We had a bunch of news. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to talk to a B about. Yeah, as as

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Speaker 3: we bring them on in here to break it all down.

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Speaker 2: Sure, there he goes there. Good to see boss, nice

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Speaker 2: to see it. Welcome in joining us now live. Oh, oh,

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Speaker 2: gibbe cush. That could have been a that could have

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Speaker 2: been a lot of wrong there at that gone south,

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Speaker 2: have a sea, buddy, good to see a b Yeah,

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Speaker 2: hop in, hop in, We're we're here live on the

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Speaker 2: program here boy, you were You're like a one man

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Speaker 2: news breaking machine over there where you got Greenbrier, we

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Speaker 2: got the Vikings. I mean, that's you got a lot

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Speaker 2: going on here in the last five minutes, my friend.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a it's it's a tool of distraction, all

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Speaker 4: right for the real thing we have.

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Speaker 3: And we trade up to the number one overall. Pick

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Speaker 3: you heard it down? Write that down. I like that.

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Speaker 3: I like that. You heard it. You heard it. They

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Speaker 3: are gonna run wild. What you've been coming this for?

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Speaker 2: What do you like it? What do you like most

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Speaker 2: about this? I'm sure there's plenty you don't like, but

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Speaker 2: but what do you like most about about the NFL

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Speaker 2: kind of gathering in India every year?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, it's seeing the people. It's it's two things. It's

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Speaker 4: seeing the people and it's the it's the beginning of

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Speaker 4: kind of putting your strategic discussions into into action. But

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Speaker 4: it really is like the people, whether it's catching up

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Speaker 4: with former colleagues, which whether it's catching up with your

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Speaker 4: seeing friends or my case family at this point, right,

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Speaker 4: it it really is that it's it's it's great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, afore you coming back to Indy probably when you

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Speaker 4: Now you guys are lucky that you're asking me on

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Speaker 4: what to say Tuesday, it's Friday. You know, I'll have

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Speaker 4: probably a much much different perspective.

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Speaker 3: Ear right now you're so fresh.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 3: So obviously the announcement he mentioned it, you know Greenbrier again,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so we love the ability to get away and

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Speaker 2: I don't know that there was a player availability because

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Speaker 2: I don't know that there was a player available ability

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Speaker 3: It felt like every.

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Speaker 2: Time one of them talked about it and be like,

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Speaker 2: how you guys getting through this? How the heck you

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Speaker 4: There, Yeah, it really did, and the guys took to it.

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Speaker 4: We got a ton of positive feedback and and you know,

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Speaker 4: I remember, you know, when I was in Indianapolis, most

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Speaker 4: just being about that group, it really does make a difference.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we certainly we saw that because there was a

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Speaker 3: team that relied, I think on their bonds to overcome

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Speaker 3: the way the script. The script didn't go as maybe

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that. I think, you know, the

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Speaker 3: So, and maybe this is just in my mind, but

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Speaker 3: it feels like the distance from the combine to free

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Speaker 3: though probably isn't, and then the draft is still at

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Speaker 3: the end of April. How much as have you seen

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Speaker 4: it's gotten longer and longer, honestly, Nate, And maybe it's

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Speaker 4: don't know that I could. I I don't know that

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Speaker 4: it feels like we've It almost feels like we've gott

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Speaker 3: So okay, yeah, you're ready to roll. I like it.

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Speaker 2: I want to take you back. You went to the

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Speaker 2: as we've tried to compartmentalize the twenty twenty three season,

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Speaker 2: And a lot of people ask me, like, certainly in

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Speaker 2: found out about Deshaun's injury, And I said, I felt

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Speaker 2: like we got to go, We've got to go, and

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Speaker 2: is no other choice because you got a game Sunday,

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Speaker 2: no choice. But now that you get distance from the

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Speaker 2: all accomplished. How do you put it in perspective as

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Speaker 4: I'll start by saying I was incredibly proud of our players,

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Speaker 4: six and eleven. Every building's going through that. The second

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Speaker 4: nothing compares to a global pandemic and an outbreak before

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Speaker 4: have a very very high baseline for adversity where you know,

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Speaker 4: I don't I am scared to say this, but like

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Speaker 3: How did you personally, Because I'm curious because you hit

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Speaker 3: Seawan Indrey and you and I certainly talked about it,

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Speaker 3: how you got there, just kind of from your standpoint.

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Speaker 4: One of the things that's actually pretty cool from my perspective,

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Speaker 4: an element that you're right, like, when I learned about

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Speaker 4: like an empathetic perspective for people who are going to

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Speaker 4: the way, we're on a Wednesday and we got to

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Speaker 4: go win a game and win a game.

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Speaker 2: You did yeahs, yeah, of the whole thing, and absolutely,

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Speaker 2: look you got your job. And I know you guys

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Speaker 2: don't win the last game, there's an a there's an

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Speaker 2: you have to I would assume you have to view

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Speaker 3: As you certainly did.

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Speaker 4: It's really too early to tell, you know, this is

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Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, as as you you know, not a first

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's pretty much the same approach because you

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Speaker 2: Abe, where give some fans a bit of a health update.

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Speaker 4: You know, ours occur at forty five percent of the season.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, right, So, by the way, I think when

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Speaker 3: Drink Smart sounds fun. Good talking to AB, that's great. Great.

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Speaker 3: He's not gonna get us, and we tried to try

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Speaker 3: to No, No, he's not gonna give us anything on

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Speaker 3: the plan, but some nice I think moments of levity.

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Speaker 3: I think it's cool that he I'm a crisis manager

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Speaker 3: with some football sprinkled in, and I say that he's

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Speaker 3: pretty good at it.

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Speaker 2: I think the best thing that you can do with

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Speaker 2: in that scenario, you know, I hope that what it

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Speaker 2: does for the fans is to give it an idea

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Speaker 2: of where his head is, yes, and how he So

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Speaker 2: you know the reason I asked him the question about

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Speaker 2: like the plan out like you and I know that

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Speaker 2: they've got the answers to the rest this year, next year,

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Speaker 2: next year, But for the you know, it was when

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Speaker 2: I was out West, there was the there was all

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Speaker 2: that stuff about oh, we get going to cut Nick

461
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Speaker 2: Chubb and you gotta cut this, we can't pay for anybody.

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Speaker 2: It's like, no, no, no, it's going to be fine, and

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Speaker 2: it was. I think it's important for fans to understand that,

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Speaker 2: like they know where they're at. They know where they're

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Speaker 2: at now, next year, next year, and so it's a

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Speaker 2: three year window that they're looking at when you think.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're putting a roster together. Yeah, and they're also,

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Speaker 3: you know, thinking about the salary cap, they're thinking about

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Speaker 3: succession planning. They're prepared for we are going to have

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Speaker 3: to make tough decisions. We will not be able to

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Speaker 3: afford everybody. So where can we find, you know, guys

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Speaker 3: to take over when we have to vacate some of

473
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Speaker 3: our good players. I mean, it just happens around the league.

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Speaker 3: I was overhearing an elite radio show earlier that was

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Speaker 3: emanating from a similar location, and he said, sure, with

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Speaker 3: the Bengal, you can't pay everybody. So they had to

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Speaker 3: make this Jesse Bates, they couldn't keep him. He goes

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Speaker 3: the Landing's the first team All Pro. But that's just

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Speaker 3: sometimes that's what you have to do, but you would drafted.

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Speaker 3: In their case, they drafted Dax Hill. They drafted you know,

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Speaker 3: a safety to try to take over there. So that's

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Speaker 3: kind of you know, they are very thorough in their

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Speaker 3: preparation there now sos. Nothing happens willie nilly or haphazardly.

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Speaker 3: It is all done very much with the goal of

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Speaker 3: not only building a competitive roster, but building one that

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Speaker 3: is sustainable. I thought we got one of the most

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Speaker 3: honest reactions in from anything ever when I said, what

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Speaker 3: did you think about the cap going up? And he

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Speaker 3: laughed like a kid. Whet a great Christmas present, big win,

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Speaker 3: big win. Yeah, I'm pleased. We're very happy with that.

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Speaker 3: That works out very well. Some of the things that

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Speaker 3: he broke in the previous you know, the availability with

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Speaker 3: our local media. Elliott, Oh yeah, it was up there

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Speaker 3: earlier today. How about that? Yeah for the Patriots, I

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Speaker 3: know I haven't seen him and since he walked out. No,

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Speaker 3: he's looking great. It looks great. Yeah, it looks great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good to see Elliott Wolf now the director

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Speaker 2: of scouting for the New England Patriots. We were the

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Speaker 2: news of a returner to Greenbrier, which has long been

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Speaker 2: rumored and thought to be happening, and as we mentioned

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Speaker 2: with ab, I mean, our players are so pleased with

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Speaker 2: it and gave it to credit, so that will happen.

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Speaker 2: And then in addition to that, in the real news

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Speaker 2: was this the Vikings joint practices.

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Speaker 3: It will be host of the Vikings or who Join practices. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: which is nice that it's going to be in Cleveland,

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Speaker 3: because you know last year you had the joint practice

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Speaker 3: in Philly as well as the trip to the Greenbrier,

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Speaker 3: and so I think it'll be nice you're able to

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Speaker 3: get that bonding, but then be able to do this

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Speaker 3: kind of on your home turf, which I think will

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Speaker 3: be very helpful for the Browns. It'll be interesting because

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Speaker 3: you know, when Philly you were going against the team

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Speaker 3: that at that point was the reigning NFC champion. Yep.

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Speaker 3: Whereas the Vikings are, we can't even really offer up

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Speaker 3: an idea of what that team's going to look like

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Speaker 3: when it comes here. I mean, you think about the

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Speaker 3: best players on that team, Kirk Cousins, Justin Jefferson, Daniel Hunter,

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Speaker 3: I would be stunned. I mean, I think we talked

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Speaker 3: about this yesterday. If they somehow move off of Justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 3: But it's possible that Kirk Cousins is somewhere else. It's

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Speaker 3: quite possible that Daniel Hunter they're not able to get

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Speaker 3: a deal done with him. So you don't know what

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Speaker 3: that team's going to look like. So that part of

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Speaker 3: it's interesting. Obviously have familiarity with with Quacy Yep and

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Speaker 3: Kevin O'Connell and that whole operation. So and I think

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Speaker 3: that it's good though. I think those joint practices are

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Speaker 3: very valuable. Yeah, they bring something to training camp that

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Speaker 3: a regular training camp pact is just cannot have.

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Speaker 2: And you know, to your point about that, I mean,

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Speaker 2: there's you have no idea what Vikings team could look like.

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Speaker 2: There was all sorts of talk is it's rumor, but

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Speaker 2: sometimes they's smoke to Ruber. You know that they were

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Speaker 2: trying to talk to the Patriots to move up into

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Speaker 2: three or the Patriots pick four, move up into four

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Speaker 2: and work some side of sort of a deal where

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Speaker 2: they could, you know, maybe go get one of those.

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Speaker 3: Quarterbacks at the top.

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Speaker 2: So like Quasi's got a lot to sort out in Minnesota,

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Speaker 2: so that but that'll be fun to have those things

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Speaker 2: and then return to the Greenbrier as well. Beyond that money,

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Speaker 2: it's just fun looking back. And these got are also

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Speaker 2: process oriented, and I think at times it seems from

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Speaker 2: the outside looking in it borderlines like emotionless the way

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Speaker 2: that they are publicly seen.

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Speaker 3: So if you can get a little.

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Speaker 2: Bit of that side of it, it's good to just

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Speaker 2: get a little feel for like, yeah, there's a lot

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Speaker 2: going on, and that was a crazy season from his perspective,

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Speaker 2: but you know, yeah.

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Speaker 3: And I think that you know, what he said talking

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Speaker 3: about the Deshaun situation in particular was good because it

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Speaker 3: took me. I'll be up, I'll speak for me, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know about you, but it took me at

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Speaker 3: least I would say twenty four hours that whole Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: oh and maybe into Thursday a little bit, maybe twenty

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Speaker 3: four to thirty six hours us to like process and

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Speaker 3: be like, okay, well, the league doesn't stop, the season's okay,

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Speaker 3: How can we How can I cock ourselves into we're

560
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Speaker 3: gonna be okay? Which it turned out by the way

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Speaker 3: that we were okay. It didn't.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't until you beat Pittsburg. It wasn't until I

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Speaker 2: was at the Pittsburgh game. Then you're honest, because it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't just the Deshaun injury. It was Nick Chubb,

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Speaker 2: Conklin of course the Shawn. Like if if Nick were

566
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Speaker 2: healthy and DeShawn goes down, you go, okay, there's still

567
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Speaker 2: a path, Well, we'll pound it, we'll run it. He's

568
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Speaker 2: the best running back in the league, but he was

569
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Speaker 2: already lost. So it was there was such a feeling

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Speaker 2: and I think that's why I think that Steelers game

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Speaker 2: was so cathartic for for Browns fans because it was like,

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Speaker 2: you beat the Steelers coming off of that week, and

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Speaker 2: it allowed for hope to continue in the season. And

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Speaker 2: that's that's We had so many memorable moments last year,

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Speaker 2: but that one is unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: It's an unbelievable moment.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, for me, it was it was beating Pittsburgh

578
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Speaker 2: because it was like, okay, all right, there's a path here.

579
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Speaker 2: I don't know what the ceiling is, and the ceiling

580
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,159
Speaker 2: changed when Joe got here, but and started playing the

581
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Speaker 2: way he did, then it was like, okay, now he

582
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Speaker 2: can maybe win around. Let's really go. But like beat

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Speaker 2: with DTR beating Pittsburgh at home, it was like all right,

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Speaker 2: that we're not going we're not falling off a cliff, right,

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00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: and that that was the that was the elixir, I think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think that was interesting that he noted that,

587
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Speaker 3: you know, by the time that he delivered the news

588
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 3: to the organization at large, he had already been through

589
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Speaker 3: his period of if he had one, he'd really even

590
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Speaker 3: say that he was just sorry. I got that. That's

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Speaker 3: a cheat.

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Speaker 2: That's a bit of a cheat though too, because like

593
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Speaker 2: we're getting it fresh. Yeah, and he had known for

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Speaker 2: two days, right, So you have.

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Speaker 3: To take that up. So I do have to be

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Speaker 3: empathetic to those who are just hearing this news for

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Speaker 3: the first time. But a masterful job. And you know

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Speaker 3: it's funny is he said neither he Kareem Hunt nor

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Speaker 3: Joe Flacco or on the Bingo cards, and yet those

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Speaker 3: that's ends up. I think they combined for twenty something

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Speaker 3: touchdowns between the two of them, you know, Flack, I

602
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Speaker 3: think through the thirteen Kareem d you know, the nine rushing.

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Speaker 3: It's that's what's so wild about an NFL season and

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Speaker 3: what you'd hope for the Browns is and what's amazing

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00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 3: is Kevin Sefanci has been a two time coach the

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Speaker 3: year he still hasn't had a normal season, or do

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Speaker 3: you just have like your principal players stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: So his first year's twelve twenty because we were here

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Speaker 2: when we interviewed him and talked to him, Covid first

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Speaker 2: time ever, we had the quarterships when we got back, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Covid twenty twenty one, Baker gets paper chaos twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 2: You think the suspension for Watson's going to be four

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Speaker 2: to six and ends up eleven. And then last year

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Speaker 2: all of it, all the calamity.

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Speaker 3: So no, he hasn't. We haven't, just kind of or

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Speaker 3: twice yeah, right, just kind of a baseline normal NFL season.

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Speaker 3: Of course they're going to be injuries, but not to

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Speaker 3: maybe two of your four on your mount rushmore are

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Speaker 3: important players on the on the roster, right, yeah, yeah,

620
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Speaker 3: certainly so.

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Speaker 2: The and then the the other kind of news was

622
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Speaker 2: the trade deadline, the proposal with.

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Speaker 3: Four other teams. That's just common sense today. It's a

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00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 3: common sense. We talked about that this year so many times,

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Speaker 3: like what are we doing? Why is the trade deadline? Now?

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Speaker 3: I truly think I think that they need to do

627
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Speaker 3: a couple of things the NFL. The first thing is

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Speaker 3: move the trade deadline back. I think week twelve. You

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Speaker 3: know he will take baby stepsis. They're aiming for week ten,

630
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Speaker 3: because if you're gonna give up assets, you need to

631
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Speaker 3: know that you're really in it. And in terms of

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Speaker 3: the tanking of it, there's not a lot of evidence

633
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,840
Speaker 3: to support that that's happened because people in the the

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00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: way the NFL has been, you don't get eliminated until

635
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Speaker 3: very late. And if a team is out of it, okay,

636
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Speaker 3: they're out of it. Like there there are trade offs

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Speaker 3: to be made a team that wants to just like

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Speaker 3: in your everybody who's listening to place fantasy football, there's

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Speaker 3: trade offs to be made. If Okay, I'm going to

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Speaker 3: give up my you know we're in a dynasag. I'm

641
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: gonna give up my first round pick next year so

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Speaker 3: that I can get a guy to help me this year.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot there's risk in all of those scenarios.

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Speaker 3: I just think it creates a better situation. The other

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Speaker 3: thing I think they need to have in the NFL

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Speaker 3: that they at least to my knowledge, they don't is

647
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Speaker 3: kind of like the buyout system where you can get somebody,

648
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Speaker 3: Yeah bought, they can buy out and they can go

649
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Speaker 3: sign whoever they.

650
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Speaker 2: Want, right, No, I yeah, if you're and even even

651
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,320
Speaker 2: hinted it, you know, potentially going to an eighteenth game,

652
00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 2: which I think we all know we're headed for in

653
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 2: eighteen games, you have to have more.

654
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Speaker 3: Two preseason eighteen games. It's yeah, if if we're already

655
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Speaker 3: not participating in one preseason game, right, why are we

656
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: doing it? Why are we doing it? Yeah? Yeah, eighteen's

657
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 3: long as long as it stays the same amount of time.

658
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 3: I think what they need to do if they go

659
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Speaker 3: to eighteen, it's got to be two bye weeks for

660
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Speaker 3: each team. You still have plenty of teams playing all

661
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 3: eighteen weeks. You're onto something two by weeks for each team.

662
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: Give them everybody kind of a reset of breather, and

663
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 3: try to do it so that you kind of rotate

664
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Speaker 3: maybe a third of the league, a third of league,

665
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Speaker 3: a third league over like three weeks kind of around

666
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: you know, the third of the season and then the

667
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Speaker 3: two thirds of the season, and then you kind of

668
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: try to like rotate it around there. Yeah, you have to.

669
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Speaker 2: You we just go through so much catastrophic injury and

670
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 2: I know, you can't take it out of it.

671
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Speaker 3: It's just a lot. So I like your two the

672
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: two bye weeks thing. I think that's probably you get

673
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 3: to play three six game seasons basically now would work

674
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 3: out perfectly for everybody, but basically that'd be yeah, somewhere

675
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 3: in the range. Then we can use trenches again, get yeah, yeah,

676
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 3: first trump, break it into thirds. Yeah. I like it.

677
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 3: I just think that you're able to plan better, You're

678
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 3: able to body manage probably a little bit better. You're

679
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: able to do a lot of things. When you know

680
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,479
Speaker 3: that's kind of you get six and then you get

681
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 3: a week off, plus you got a Thursday in there,

682
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: which gives you kind of like a mini you know

683
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: that you'll get somewhere in the season as well. I

684
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 3: think that's where they got to go. If they do

685
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 3: go to eighteen game season, they got to give the

686
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: two by weeks take away that one preseason game, because again,

687
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 3: who needs it? And I realize it's for the guys

688
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 3: fighting to make the roster, but is he for God's sakes?

689
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Speaker 2: If you're at the Greenbriar for ten days, you've already

690
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: done practices with Philadelphia, So that means that your ones

691
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: are getting the time and the practices. You still have

692
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Speaker 2: two games to it, you have mini camps, you've got

693
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Speaker 2: they know.

694
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Speaker 3: Well, and it's just better. It's a better draw, like

695
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: much better. Yeah, if you're gonna host a preseason game,

696
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 3: you as a fan still want to go see the

697
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Speaker 3: guys that are gonna actually play, even if it's for

698
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Speaker 3: a quarter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, there's no doubt.

699
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Speaker 2: All right, there is a lot of news happening over

700
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Speaker 2: here in Indianapolis. We will catch you up on all

701
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: of that, including the comments from the Bears in terms

702
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: of their approach to Justin Fields, because that's kind of

703
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: where kind of feel like that's where this thing's gonna

704
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: kick off is.

705
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: Once you start to get.

706
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Speaker 2: Some momentum on that, then there will be reactions to

707
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,760
Speaker 2: that action, as it were. We will get you caught

708
00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: up on all the news of the day.

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Speaker 3: Coming up. Next to listen to Cleveland Duns Daily on

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Speaker 2: Look, it's all gonna be quarterbacks. That's what this is

721
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 2: going to be. NFL wise, big picture. Ryan Pole's a

722
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 2: general manager of the Bears, saying, no decision has been made,

723
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Speaker 2: but we want to do right by justin if we

724
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 2: do decide to go that way, a decision absolutely has

725
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 2: been made. You'd be be malfeasance at this point if

726
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: you did not have your decision.

727
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: Anytime somebody says, oh it's still a few weeks away,

728
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Speaker 3: we haven't stopped stopping. They've made up their minds.

729
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: They know they So I guess the question will be

730
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Speaker 2: let's start with the fields component of this. How I

731
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Speaker 2: guess that's the question of the day, And not that

732
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 2: you and I we don't have scores on this, We're not.

733
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Speaker 2: We no longer have our boy over there in the

734
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Speaker 2: in the front office. So Simon so not like he

735
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Speaker 2: had information, but all that guys, can do is charge

736
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Speaker 2: you for your own shrimp cocktail now. Actually, if it's

737
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Speaker 2: it's free, all sorts of warm, any warm would be

738
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Speaker 2: full charge of you.

739
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Speaker 3: Full charge of you on your free meal. Folks.

740
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Speaker 2: The waiter chased Ziger and I out of the steak

741
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Speaker 2: house onto the street. I was on the street. I

742
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 2: was with you, yeah, and said we were on the street.

743
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,360
Speaker 2: You guys have to pay the bill, and it was

744
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 2: a large bill, was talking about yeah, right, So then

745
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 2: we called. We thought he was We thought he was

746
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: putting us on with that was a joke, like, oh yeah,

747
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: you see Moan puts you up to this.

748
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Seaman's in the car with this guy. He's

749
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Speaker 3: in the car with Gibbet to come back, had to

750
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Speaker 3: come back.

751
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Speaker 2: And then he was what did he even try to

752
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Speaker 2: fix it or was he just like he's like everybody

753
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Speaker 2: put in your cards, Yeah, we'll split it four ways. Okay,

754
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: what it just happened here? How did we win a bet?

755
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:32,959
Speaker 2: Two seafood towers? Is the bet?

756
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Speaker 3: No, that wasn't the bet. The dinner it was not

757
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 3: it was dinner. It was a meal, just like just soup,

758
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: just like Griff's gotta take you and griff have to

759
00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 3: take us all out for the beautiful love affair between

760
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 3: Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift, which beat the February fourteenth deadline.

761
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 3: Did I go under? You did sad against love? Yeah?

762
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 3: I was against love? You know. It's like it's like

763
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Speaker 3: a share said, do you believe in life after love?

764
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Speaker 2: You have to got my God? So I guess the

765
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 2: thing will be with Fields. When when does that happen?

766
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 2: How quickly does it happen?

767
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 4: To me?

768
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 3: It feels like and I realized that Russell Wilson is

769
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: a big piece, but to me, it feels like the

770
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 3: Field's piece is kind of the domino that's going to

771
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: get everything going. That's the first thing, right, because then

772
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: that says, okay, he's gone. Okay, we know Caleb's going

773
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Speaker 3: number one. Now everything can just kind of fall into

774
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Speaker 3: line after.

775
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 2: That, and once the and then that those other teams

776
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 2: that are interested, and there's a lot. I mean, I

777
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 2: mentioned the Minnesota rumors that they could want to come

778
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: up to four. There was a time where the Patriots Elliott,

779
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: we just showed it. Elliott was just on the screen here.

780
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,319
Speaker 2: Elliot Wolf, director of scouting now in New England that

781
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,360
Speaker 2: the Patriots at one point were like one of the

782
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Speaker 2: betting favorites to land Fields and that that potentially that

783
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: would be a landing spot there. They pick fourth in

784
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Speaker 2: this draft, so there's that component of it.

785
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Speaker 3: Well you look just kind of going through it. They

786
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Speaker 3: picked second, the Patriots. Are they second or fourth? It's

787
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Speaker 3: so funny. I know the Cardinals anywhere heard we don't

788
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 3: have we were talking about this off air, a first

789
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 3: round pick. It's how It's just it takes away your

790
00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 3: focus on everything that's happening early in the draft because

791
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. Twenty four draft order. The Commanders are

792
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 3: up there, the Patriots. The top three I thought are

793
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: the Bears, Commanders and Patriots. If I'm not mistaken, we

794
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: can get it. Here we go, Bears, Commanders, Patriots, Cardinals

795
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Speaker 3: are four. Cardinals are four. Yes, okay, So that's where

796
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 3: I think they're going to get Marvin Harrison. It's going

797
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 3: to quarterback, quarterback quarterback. Now, if the Patriots were to

798
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 3: say trade for Justin Fields, they may take Marvin Harrison there.

799
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Speaker 3: So if a team then that, if the Patriots really

800
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: seem like the only one that would maybe trade for him,

801
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 3: if that happens, because we haven't heard the commander's link

802
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 3: to them at all. Then all of a sudden, that

803
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: changes things for Arizona.

804
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 2: Bigley because now now all of a sudden and and

805
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 2: the what so then what is the what is the

806
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: give for Fields becomes the next important thing like that

807
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 2: if if New England likes him, if Jared Mayo likes him,

808
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,440
Speaker 2: and they want to build something around him, we know

809
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 2: that that's something that Belichick always wanted for whatever reason,

810
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: you always wanted a mobile quarterback. Sometimes you just want

811
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 2: me you can't have until you get it. He had

812
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 2: the best of all time. Like let's say it be

813
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 2: worked out pretty well, but there's always talk that he

814
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 2: wanted that, and so if they go that way, then

815
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Speaker 2: that flips. So then that the price for Fields is

816
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,919
Speaker 2: going to be fascinating. Yes, well it will a first

817
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 2: rounder in the future. Ever will any will there be

818
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: pick one first round or swaps? Is it two to two's?

819
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Speaker 2: What is it a two and a three that the

820
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 2: three becomes a two? What does that look like? That

821
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Speaker 2: the breakdown of that will be fascinating.

822
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Speaker 3: Yeah, because because you kind of look around the league

823
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 3: and you say, okay, who would even be in the

824
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: market right for either say fields, or to trade up

825
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 3: and try to get one of these quarterbacks. And the

826
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 3: AFC is it's only the Patriots. In the AFC North,

827
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Speaker 3: you'd have to think the Steelers could be a team

828
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Speaker 3: that would be either interesting fields or maybe making a

829
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Speaker 3: move up for a quarterback. Although we're hearing that they're

830
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 3: fine with you know, Rudolphin picket and I don't believe that.

831
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Speaker 3: In the AFC South, the Colts know Jags, no Texans,

832
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: no Titans. Maybe, but I think they like yeah, yeah,

833
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 3: and then yeah. In the West, it's going to be

834
00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: the Raiders and Broncos. Right, so that's two. I mean,

835
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: did the Bronx and then the Broncos. They're moving off

836
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: of Wilson. I know Sean Payton said, well, we want

837
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 3: to have a decision a week there. It's the worst

838
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 3: kept secret in the world. They're going to move off

839
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 3: of him. They're going to eat it.

840
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: So then the question becomes, where does he? Where did

841
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: what in? What where did they go? And what is

842
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 2: the path correct for them?

843
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: Are they? Did they draft one at their first round pick?

844
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 3: John Lynch right here? Oh man, all right, how about it?

845
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 3: How about it? Where's my guy, Kyle? He's back home, baby.

846
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 2: He didn't come to that, I know, yeah, which I

847
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 2: was starting to Siciliana this morning. So there's like upwards

848
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: of six seven coaches who didn't come, and like the

849
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 2: rams didn't come at all.

850
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Speaker 6: So, uh, the the one pr person.

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Speaker 3: Hello, give it by the way, by the way, I

852
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: give it time to I love that he's whispering into

853
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 3: a microphone, right, yeah, well.

854
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 2: Well because it is amplifying his voice, yes, correct it

855
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Speaker 2: away from listening years.

856
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 6: He literally stops talking and comes over and looks at

857
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Speaker 6: your hat.

858
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 3: Who did lynch? No?

859
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 6: He was like, wait a minute, yeah, that's I know that,

860
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Speaker 6: and not many people own things like that.

861
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. Well, that's just talk to you.

862
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 3: You are thanks.

863
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 2: You missed us yesterday and am I driving. We had

864
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: our We had this at the end of the show yesterday.

865
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 2: I saw this on the four play guys, would you

866
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 2: rather play Augusta National Herds or Pebble Beach once a

867
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 2: year for the rest of your life? And he went masters,

868
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 2: I think that was the correct one initially, and then

869
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: I I juiced it.

870
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 3: That's a group for four, I can now it's a foresome.

871
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: It's a fesome at pebble. It's it's accommodations now accommodations.

872
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 3: It's it's a I'm doing that the four priced. It's

873
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 3: a pretty good thing, like you could count on.

874
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, hey, I can take I could take my brother

875
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 6: in law this year. This year, I can take my

876
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 6: college buddies. Yeah, like I I can mix it up.

877
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 6: I can every year. Yep, there's not there's not a

878
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 6: doubt in my mind. Yeah, you took a little shot

879
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 6: at me at the end of the show yesterday. We

880
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 6: did we did no, no, no, no no what you were like,

881
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 6: no no, no, no no.

882
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: It was yes, well, or we're taking shots from you,

883
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 3: just like shrapnel, just flat.

884
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 6: There's also there's like I can't believe they're not there yet.

885
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 6: And I'm like and I'm literally yelling at the radio

886
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 6: with these two guys in the car, no, no show.

887
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 6: I'm yelling at the radio, going I've been in the air,

888
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 6: stupid Tulane highway.

889
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 3: You know the rule. It's true, it is true. Yeah, literallyful,

890
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: it's awful. Did you make did you did you push

891
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 3: the boundaries of of speed? Yes? And no.

892
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 6: We were caravanning, so I couldn't. I couldn't do what

893
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 6: I maybe normally do I But I got there in

894
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 6: four forty five.

895
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 3: That's How'm an. Yeah, I was doing it. I was

896
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 3: four thirty with a fifteen with a stop with and

897
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: and a stop yeah yeah, because you had yeah, ye

898
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 3: did a d twour coming out and then you had

899
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 3: to you had to you had to stop and get gas.

900
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 2: You would have thought you would have filled up before

901
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: you left. Odd that you'd hop in a car and

902
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: be like, well not full tank. Strange private school.

903
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 3: Too, extenuating circumstances. This is what I'll say. Oh boy,

904
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: I thought we could have a curb episode because you

905
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 3: mentioned you were caravanning. So I finally caught up to

906
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 3: Bow just like outside just sort of the supercharger in Dayton. Yeah,

907
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: right outside of Dayton. And I was talking to miss

908
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 3: Kay at the time, and I was like, well, now

909
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: that I'm next to him, I'm like, am I do

910
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:44,320
Speaker 3: we have to ride together?

911
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:44,520
Speaker 4: Like?

912
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 3: Do I have to match his speed and we fly

913
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 3: in formation? Or do I keep going my speed? Obviously

914
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 3: he will tell you our caravan was very brief, very brief.

915
00:41:55,080 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 2: No you so it's been it's certainly been well documented

916
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: that I have been pinched a lot, a lot so

917
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 2: I've been pinched with ways. I've been pinched every way

918
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,880
Speaker 2: you can be pinched, and I can't do it anymore.

919
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 2: I've reached the level of big pinched where it's it's

920
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: just not worth it. And I would just say that

921
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: you have a very different experience as a driver.

922
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 3: We so we passed each we were side by side, waving.

923
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: It was really a joyous moment. And then I went

924
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 3: on and within five minutes I got a text. Your

925
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: fearlessness towards tickets is admirable, unbelievable.

926
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 6: The first thirty five minutes we were on the highway,

927
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 6: we had four. Well, I was like, this is how

928
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 6: it's going to be. It's trying to take us seven

929
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 6: hours to get there.

930
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 3: Use I use my ways, which is good and helpful

931
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 3: in these situations. But you know, I'll be honest. I've

932
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 3: been pinched in Indiana. I went to SummerSlam here back

933
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: when it was the Conseco or Xico field House. Yeah,

934
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 3: there's the main event I want to say was Undertaker

935
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 3: Edge Helena South and I got I got pinched in

936
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: Indiana on the way home. It's such a bummer. It's

937
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 3: like such a bummer, man. Yeah, here's the thing key manage.

938
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 3: If it was Conseco field house, it was just a

939
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 3: picture of holding a bat. I was more of an

940
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: Ozzy guy, Ozzy Conseco. That's a choice. It was a choice,

941
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: certainly a choice. Yeah, he didn't. He's kind of I

942
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: feel like Ozzy was kind of like, is he still alive?

943
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

944
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: I think so. I guess I wouldn't know one way

945
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 3: or another. He just was very like not the great

946
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,399
Speaker 3: of baseball and made it up. It's still think about

947
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: that though, Like you just said, not great at baseball.

948
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 3: He was a major leaguer. Yeah, but like so, like

949
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:43,279
Speaker 3: for any kid out there, that is a that is

950
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: a the dream of you don't dare to dream that big, right,

951
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,719
Speaker 3: and and so he accomplished that goal.

952
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: The problem was his brother, for a time was one

953
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: of the most most most decorated players, and he wore

954
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: yeah versus thirty three.

955
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 3: His career statistics two hundred average, thirteen hits for RBI.

956
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 3: He was drafted as a pitcher by the Yankees in

957
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: the second round of the eighties dude in art. Contrast

958
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 3: to prolific power hitting career of his twin brother, Ozzie

959
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: never hit a major league home run. He holds holds

960
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 3: the Atlantic League single season home run record with forty eight,

961
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,600
Speaker 3: which he achieved while playing for the Newark Bears in

962
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 3: two thousand. He was named the MVP in two thousand. Yeah,

963
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 3: that's seventeen years later.

964
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I in his mid to late thirties, he was,

965
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: what the hero basketball in the Atlantic League.

966
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,200
Speaker 3: That doesn't even that is wild. Maybe maybe this isn't

967
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 3: at it. Maybe it's a maybe it's erroneous. That's what

968
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 3: it says on Wikipedia.

969
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 2: Jiko, so one of them's legal troubles one of the

970
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: headings for sure.

971
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 3: For sure. He uh, but I'd say it's kind of

972
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: like he was. He's kind of like although Jannis has

973
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,040
Speaker 3: been more successful obviously than than jose Canseco was, although

974
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 3: jose Caneko had a pretty he's an MVP. Yeah, he's

975
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 3: forty for forty forty forty, I mean so maybe similar. Yeah,

976
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: I know he was before it all went south. It

977
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 3: was and he won he won a championship with Oh yeah,

978
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: he had to be on the ad. They did win

979
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: the one. Yeah, the bay Bridge eighty nine. They did one.

980
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: That's fine. We went to three in a row, No

981
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: big deal. They did win the one. Yeah, that's right.

982
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 3: They did win the one. Yeah, they did win one.

983
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm telling this is Ozz. He's kind

984
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: of like what's his his brother's name, Fannis.

985
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's well, there's a couple of them, because there's

986
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 2: one the Lakers had for a while and the other

987
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: one played for the Bucks. There were a couple of

988
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 2: them that were that were in the mix. Yeah, I

989
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: would just like a I wish that I knew, like

990
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: what the what was the standard of path in terms

991
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 2: of travel? That would that I could get away with

992
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 2: And I don't know what it is because I've been

993
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 2: pulled over and ticketed for five over.

994
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: That's outrageous, I was. I don't think that mount anymore.

995
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 3: I don't think that's real anymore.

996
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

997
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 3: I think I think give a do agree. I think

998
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 3: if you're nine over, you're one hundred percent safe. Wow,

999
00:45:55,440 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 3: that's wild. Here we go. You believe that to nine

1000
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:05,000
Speaker 3: overs safe? Absolutely, you're pretty good. I think with him,

1001
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: I was cruise. I typically cruise thirteen. Nah, that's wild.

1002
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 3: I'm yesterday seventy eight, seventy nine. Wow, Yeah, like that's

1003
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: a minimum locking in at nine. Yeah, that's wild. They're

1004
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 3: looking for fifteen? Really? Is that what I'm told? Well,

1005
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 3: I have some people in the business. We got some

1006
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 3: people in the business. I must have a punchable face,

1007
00:46:24,920 --> 00:46:27,680
Speaker 3: because I get it. I got five over. I don't

1008
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:30,959
Speaker 3: think so at all. Absolutely pumped. It's a great put him. Yeah,

1009
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 3: look at him over there. Sean Payton, you've running this

1010
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 3: from earlier. We talked about you know that we want

1011
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 3: to be pretty quick on on Russell. Russell might want

1012
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: to stay according to his podcast, wearing a Paris Saint

1013
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: John and you know that because of your game, your FIFA. Yeah, yeah,

1014
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 3: that's how you do that scene. That's wild. That is

1015
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 3: he's wearing a PSG hoodie here. I wonder what the

1016
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 3: connection before the combine when he's he's a Jordan guy,

1017
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 3: right is and is Jordan? Yeah, they're a Jordan there,

1018
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,759
Speaker 3: Jordan team. I mean it's probably representing the Denver Broncos. Yeah.

1019
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,399
Speaker 3: So you could go the attactory you wear nothing of

1020
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 3: the logo as Andrew Berry did. Yeah, but to me,

1021
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 3: if you're wearing a sports team's logo ought to be yours.

1022
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,279
Speaker 3: I would agree. I don't know a problem with them

1023
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: at all. So Fields Cousins Wilson. That's where we're at

1024
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 3: a great job of bringing out. It's like a curb episode.

1025
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 3: You brought it back together. I think Larry would. I

1026
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 3: think that would be a good idea for Larry. I

1027
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,319
Speaker 3: think you'd have fun with that idea of the notion

1028
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 3: if you're like driving the same place with somebody, if

1029
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 3: you have to caravan with them, and he obviously would not,

1030
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 3: and somebody might get mad at him, and he'd I

1031
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 3: don't know how you. I wouldn't. I wasn't. I had.

1032
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 3: There was an a second of once, you know, because

1033
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 3: I love you, I ask you, thought, is it okay

1034
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 3: to do this? No?

1035
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 2: I was at least plus I hadn't charged yet, so

1036
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,800
Speaker 2: there I knew that there was going to be a

1037
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: separate you were going to get right. I also one

1038
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 2: last thing on my event, the events of yesterday, I

1039
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: finally I've done it. I witnessed it. I saw two

1040
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,080
Speaker 2: people check into a hotel room who had for the

1041
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 2: very first time in their life in their mid fifties. Yesterday,

1042
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: they never I don't know. I didn't think it was.

1043
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: I was like seeing a dodo bird what They didn't

1044
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 2: know how to do it. They didn't know they had

1045
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 2: no idea how it worked, didn't understand incidentals, didn't understand

1046
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,839
Speaker 2: why an id tried to pay with a check. All

1047
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 2: all the while, the poor girl checking them in was

1048
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,320
Speaker 2: just kind of she's doing her best. But yeah, I

1049
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 2: mean it was lovely Amy, who I know, I checked

1050
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: you in before she checked me in. She to be

1051
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: fair to them, I will say I felt like she

1052
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:31,840
Speaker 2: didn't do a great job of explaining the incidentals. She's like,

1053
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 2: we're charging you twenty dollars every day, and I was like,

1054
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,400
Speaker 2: just for for nothing?

1055
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's like, no, it's just if you spend

1056
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: money at twenty counts against it. But then if you

1057
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:42,439
Speaker 3: don't spend anything, you'll get it back.

1058
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, well, so then you're not you're you're going

1059
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: to charge the card, but then you're you're right not

1060
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. So anyway, yeah, so their struggle

1061
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 2: with it was pretty remarkable. Yeah, to what to witness,

1062
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:56,399
Speaker 2: and especially as you guys were written out of waiting

1063
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 2: and I'm.

1064
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 3: Like going, I feel like this. I feel like it

1065
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 3: was watching the people that I was watching on the

1066
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 3: plane who like just couldn't stand up and walk down

1067
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 3: an aisle couldn't do it. Yeah, they just were like

1068
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:10,720
Speaker 3: taking forever. Just get your back, get off, let's tickets

1069
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 3: so long, let's get out right. These are things that

1070
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: shouldn't take a long time. Ceciliano coming up next. I

1071
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Speaker 3: believe we might have to push back a segment. We're

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Speaker 3: low delayed. Okay, we are, he is, he is, We're

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Speaker 3: not delayed.

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Speaker 2: We're doing just fine. Daniel Jeremiah is enjoined the program

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00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:27,640
Speaker 2: coming up.

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Speaker 3: At two thirty. I mean we could flip it. I

1077
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 3: could do Jeremiah next. Well, here's the deal. You got

1078
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 3: a stack coming, Let's just produce a show live on

1079
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 3: the air. You gotta stack.

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00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,800
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you're gonna buy yourself some time. We can reset

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Speaker 2: the big stories. Then we'll get back on track.

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Speaker 3: How about that? Give me you with me? Yeah, sure

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Speaker 3: do it. Let's do it. One you listening to the

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Speaker 2: Broadcasting live at the NFL scouting combine they met. Everfluce

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Speaker 2: was just up there talking. The thing we were talking

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Speaker 2: to you and I were talking this morning about is

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Speaker 2: from the outside looking in, this seems like it's like

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Speaker 2: it's this monstrous world of the NFL.

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Speaker 3: Once you get here.

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Speaker 2: We see the same people every year, of course, and

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Speaker 2: having been with the Browns as long as you have,

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00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: you see people who you knew when they were you

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Speaker 2: know this, and now they're this, They're including what.

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Speaker 3: Happened last night? Yeah, running and uh it's only at

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Speaker 3: the comment. That's what makes comments as special as you

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00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 3: can to be out and you run into you know,

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Speaker 3: Mike McDaniel, who was a receivers coach for US in

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00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: twenty fourteen under Kyle and now is the head coach.

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00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 3: As everybody knows of the of the Dolphins. Anthony Weaver

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00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: was a defensive line coach on that twenty fourteen team

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00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 3: under Mike Pettin. He is now the defensive coordinator for

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00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 3: the Dolphins. Ranto Bobby Babbage, who was I think the

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00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 3: assistant dB coach in twenty fourteen on that staff with

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00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 3: Jeff Hafley, who was I think and Aaron Glenn were

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00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 3: the two defensive acts coaches. I think he was assistant.

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00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:19,919
Speaker 3: Now he's a linebacker coach of the Bills. And it's

1114
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: just why, you know, just sitting there and then Mike

1115
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 3: Silver was happened to be there as well, and just

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00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 3: you know, bs and talking about various games, hypotheticals and

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00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 3: theoreticals and players and getting their scouting report. And I

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Speaker 3: will say this, Mike McDaniel is a great affection for

1119
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill and what he does I bet for a

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Speaker 3: football team. I bet he does a great affection And

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00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,839
Speaker 3: he is exactly the same guy as he was when

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00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: he was the wide receiver coach. And what you see

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Speaker 3: on TV. That's what I told him. I was like,

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00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: it's so cool to see that you have you just

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Speaker 3: are you all the time?

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Speaker 2: Well, and you knew him before he was him? Yeahs

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00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: as the public knows him. Sure, I mean he's that

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00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: I think most Browns fans, if you if you're trying

1129
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: to place him back, then he's the guy when Kyle

1130
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 2: did the play where Johnny runs off, he's.

1131
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 3: The guy standing there who's standing there.

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00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: Ye, he's in that video so that's a wild thing

1133
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,320
Speaker 2: to go from that to to one of the most innovative,

1134
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: smartest coaches in the league.

1135
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Speaker 3: And I remember interviewing him that year, and I think

1136
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 3: maybe only once that we actually did a formal interview,

1137
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 3: and I asked him a question about football and wide

1138
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 3: receivers and he gave me like a ten minute answer

1139
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: on the intricacies of prides of Lions in Africa. I

1140
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 3: was just like, what is going on? But he's just

1141
00:52:42,360 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 3: he is He's a highly intelligent guy. And by the way,

1142
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,720
Speaker 3: why why are we watching Kirk Cousins throwing of football

1143
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 3: indoor tennis courts?

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00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: He's in Minneapolis, Okay, so this is his first first

1145
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 2: video of him upright after the Achilles Okay, and so

1146
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,719
Speaker 2: where they're going, Wow, look what he can do with

1147
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 2: their indoor football facilities in Minnesota.

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00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's just more of a sure surface maybe, Yeah,

1149
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,960
Speaker 3: it's not be on turf. Yeah. By the way, we're

1150
00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,040
Speaker 3: seeing something really impressive on TV right now. Somebody being

1151
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,960
Speaker 3: able to talk with that having to go gather their thoughts.

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00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: Imagine the thought gathering that would have taken place to

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Speaker 2: be able to even.

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00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 3: Attempt to me to do this show. I feel like

1156
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 3: they had to start yesterday, right right, A lot of

1157
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 3: prep gathering.

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00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is the That is the cool part of

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00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 2: it is is you you do see that?

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Speaker 3: Go ahead? What do you have Kevin O'Connell on Kirk

1161
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,960
Speaker 3: Cousins today, quote, I believe Kirk wants to be a Viking,

1162
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 3: and we're going to work to make that the outcome.

1163
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 3: I think you need to deal with Justin Jefferson. I

1164
00:53:41,520 --> 00:53:42,839
Speaker 3: think you need can me saying you and I were

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00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 3: talking about that yesterday. I don't know how you can.

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Speaker 2: You can't be in a situation where you're basically just

1167
00:53:47,320 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 2: trying to be a farm system for everybody in the league, correct,

1168
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: Like at some point you have to actually build a

1169
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,000
Speaker 2: roster with talent. And and by the way, that is

1170
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 2: a that's a great fan base, it's an awesome venue.

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00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 2: It's it's the best venue in the NF well I think,

1172
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,239
Speaker 2: And and it's a die hard group. It's got great ownership,

1173
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: like they just put all that money into the practice facility,

1174
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 2: Like you need to go like you can't perpetually rebuild.

1175
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 2: And and by the way, there's no there isn't necessarily

1176
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 2: proof that going to the bottom gets you back to

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Speaker 2: the top.

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Speaker 3: It's really hard to go down, and it's really hard.

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00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,319
Speaker 3: You got to hit on all of it. Yes, get

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00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: back up. It's one thing to get assets, but those

1181
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 3: are theoreticals. You gotta you need football players then that theoreticals.

1182
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 3: So they pick eleventh in the draft. So if they

1183
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:34,839
Speaker 3: were to stay there, if they if they bring cousins back,

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00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:36,840
Speaker 3: they would be able to get This is talking with

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00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah. We're going to hear that a little bit

1186
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Speaker 3: later on. But very good tackle draft probably, So you

1187
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,680
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to do that. They could go We're

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00:54:44,719 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 3: gonna just completely blow up the scoreboard and draft another

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Speaker 3: one of those. They're gonna be stud wide receivers.

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Speaker 2: So the neighbors kid at LSU's a stud the obviously,

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00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 2: Marvin's a stud roma. Dunzie as a studies a kid

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00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 2: out of Washing Yeah, yeah, that's three. You could you

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00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 2: could have those three all in the top ten.

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Speaker 3: By the way.

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Speaker 6: Quacy, who did address the media as we went on

1196
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 6: the air, was asked about Jefferson. He goes and about

1197
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Speaker 6: trading him. He's like, this is not something that's once

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Speaker 6: even crossed my mind. You've got a blue You got

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Speaker 6: a blue chip player, a blue person.

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Speaker 3: You try to keep as many of those as you can.

1201
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 3: Did he say a blue He called him a blue person.

1202
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Speaker 6: A blue person, blue person that goes back to that

1203
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:27,319
Speaker 6: NFL network color charts, that's the blue chip.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 2: One of those guys did was he asked about if

1206
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 2: he knows how to park of BMW or.

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Speaker 6: So he was over and I'm like, how do I

1208
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 6: get him to stop over here? We have a question

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Speaker 6: for you.

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Speaker 2: All the questions very interesting, a query that I was

1211
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Speaker 2: curious about many low these many years.

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Speaker 3: Low these many years. So Daniel Jeremiah's top fifty prospects

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00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 3: a version two point zero yesterday, Caleb Williams one, Marvin

1214
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior two, A Dune say three, Molik Neighbors from

1215
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 3: LSU is four, So three of the top three of

1216
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 3: his time. Four receivers yep. Then he had Drake May five,

1217
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:06,240
Speaker 3: Jane Daniels six, Brock Bowers the Georgia tight end seven,

1218
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 3: a corner from Alabama Terian Arnold, Joe Alt tackle, another

1219
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 3: tackle from Morgan State. But I was trying to find

1220
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 3: there's another couple more, and then it's like tackle again,

1221
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:19,759
Speaker 3: tackle Penn State tackle Alabama. Then you get to it.

1222
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 3: The first edge is Jared Verse from Florida State, another corner.

1223
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 3: Then there's the other kid from LSU, Brian Thomas Junior.

1224
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 3: So that's another receiver at sixteen. Yeah, it's a lot

1225
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 3: of tackles. They could go tackle at eleven. Yeah yeah,

1226
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 3: I mean they got two stud receivers. So like, right,

1227
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 3: you don't need to you don't have to get crazy

1228
00:56:39,120 --> 00:56:43,840
Speaker 3: on it. So, but it's interesting his top fifty. There's

1229
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 3: not a lot of defensive help in this draft. This

1230
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 3: feels like a draft that if you want defense, you're

1231
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 3: gonna have to go. Now. He gave he'll give a

1232
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: name that everybody should pay attention to for us for

1233
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 3: a defensive tackle. It's like around and when he was

1234
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 3: describing the guy, I'm curious here you thought it sounded like, yeah,

1235
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:02,399
Speaker 3: that sounds like somebody that we would pick.

1236
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: All right, So we will get to that coming up.

1237
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,560
Speaker 2: NeXT's conversation with Daniel Jeremiah. Wait, well I've got a

1238
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: few other No, go ahead, It's okay.

1239
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,640
Speaker 3: Let's give it go, give it go.

1240
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 6: Andy Reid asked to give it, asked to give advice

1241
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 6: to a young person, trying to break into the business.

1242
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:22,560
Speaker 6: Work hard, be honest, dot dot dot, and get a

1243
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 6: good quarterback.

1244
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 3: There you go, Griff, Griff, a young person trying to

1245
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 3: get it. So Sean he's in the business. Yeah, he's

1246
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 3: Sean Payton.

1247
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 6: Remember I said earlier, I expect we're going to know

1248
00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 6: fairly quickly about Russell Wilson moved sometime in the neighborhood

1249
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 6: of the next week. Well, his GM then talked a

1250
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 6: little bit later on here like in the last twenty minutes, says,

1251
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 6: no team is called about a potential trade from Russell Wilson.

1252
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:51,560
Speaker 6: Maybe you want to be on the same page.

1253
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 3: How are they not on the same trail that out there?

1254
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 3: How is Andy? How is that not community the guys?

1255
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 3: He is a stud? What a guy?

1256
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 6: Dan Campbell says again, I should have waited until fourth

1257
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 6: down to run the ball late in the Lions Championship

1258
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:07,600
Speaker 6: lost to the forty nine ers.

1259
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: He didn't remember, that's remember how they how he didn't

1260
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: give himself a chance? Yeah, yeah, really, you and I

1261
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 3: did that done. But he also had what was that

1262
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 3: there was another game the other one that it was Philly. Yeah,

1263
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,680
Speaker 3: the Tampa Bay Tampa in the playoff in the playoff

1264
00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 3: Tampa game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, was he talking about Maybe

1265
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 3: he was talking about the Tampa about the Tampa game

1266
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 3: or the no, he said the forty nine er game.

1267
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 3: What do you do in the forty nine ers? They

1268
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:36,320
Speaker 3: went for it on some fourth downs. Oh but maybe

1269
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 3: that and they didn't convert him, right, that could have

1270
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 3: been New Falcons head coach Rahim Morris. If we had

1271
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 3: better quarterback play last year in Atlanta, I might not

1272
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 3: be standing here. Okay, So he's gonna getting a quarterback.

1273
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 3: That's how that's that's how that's going. Hasn't been enough

1274
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,120
Speaker 3: of that? Yep? Yeah, Well we were watching the highlight package.

1275
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 3: They hadn't run right, like this is very good. Left

1276
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 3: a lot to be desired, to say the least, it's agree.

1277
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 3: You don't hear it, guys. You don't hear that that

1278
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 3: often where you're just straight clown in your guy.

1279
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 2: The only time I've heard anybody, I mean, it's funny

1280
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,000
Speaker 2: that would be the second time in a week. Like

1281
00:59:11,040 --> 00:59:13,120
Speaker 2: you guys hear Patino last week as a coach at

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Speaker 2: Saint John's, Like.

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Speaker 3: He just buried, I'm Saint John's here tomorrow. I played Butler,

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Speaker 3: Are they really yeah, So he just buried like everybody

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Speaker 3: on his roster, like all the kids, they are all

1286
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 3: they're terrible. He's not satan. John's Yeah, he's not fast,

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Speaker 3: he can't jump, he can't move all of this.

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Speaker 2: So I guess he felt so bad about it. He

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Speaker 2: went out and remember that white suit. You were at Louisville.

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Speaker 2: He went in like the day before their game. His

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Speaker 2: wife said, you need to make up for this. You

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Speaker 2: need to go get that suit. So he went and

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Speaker 2: bought a white He went and got a white suit,

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Speaker 2: and he showed up in the white suit.

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Speaker 3: How does that make up for disparaging his team?

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Speaker 2: I think it just made light of the fact that

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00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 2: he wore that white suit and that was like infamous

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Speaker 2: for what happened at Louisville.

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Speaker 3: At the end. For okay, so he's taking a little

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00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: he was taking it a little bit, all right, Daniel Jeremiah,

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Speaker 3: live we'll interview Daniel Jeremiah. Let's have a listen. One

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Speaker 3: of the great treats of the Combine our opportunity to

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Speaker 3: talk with Daniel Jeremiah, the lead draft analyst for NFL Network,

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Speaker 3: and you can find him on Twitter at Move the

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Speaker 3: sixth and you have the great at Move the six

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Speaker 3: Pot as well, which I enjoy. It's all part of

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Speaker 3: my learning as I make my trek over here to Indianapolis. Daniel,

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Speaker 3: first of all, what's it like to be back at

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01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 3: the Combine. It's a little different this year, but it's

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01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 3: just such a massive event. Really has to become a

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Speaker 3: massive event.

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Speaker 5: I just crack up laughing.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: I remember this is like I'm getting to the point now.

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Speaker 5: I'm like, I remember way back when, and I remember

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01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,360
Speaker 5: coming here like in two thousand and two and walking

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Speaker 5: through the old RCA Dome and it was John Clayton,

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Speaker 5: Peter King, and Chris Mortenson. That was it.

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Speaker 3: That was it.

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Speaker 5: And now you come here in this the massive amount

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Speaker 5: of media that are here, the attention on the event,

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Speaker 5: it's it's awesome. Man. It's great for football that the

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01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 5: NFL has been kind of just genius how they've been

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Speaker 5: able to capture these months where there's no games going on,

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Speaker 5: and yet the NFL is the buzz and the talk.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely in the combine, that's where you get to learn

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Speaker 3: about a lot of these draft prospects. You've been deep

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01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:36,280
Speaker 3: in it overall, just kind of high level impressions of

1340
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Speaker 3: this class. Maybe where the strengths are, where the weaknesses are.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like it's you know, I want to

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 5: say hero or zero, but it definitely feels like there's

1343
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,480
Speaker 5: positions of real strength and then there's some shallow positions,

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01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 5: so wide receivers, which we can have this conversation, you

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01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 5: can record this, and Eric next year is loaded. There's

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01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 5: a zillion wideouts every year. So that's where you start.

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Speaker 5: Offensive tackle. One of the better offensive tackle years that

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Speaker 5: we've had. I think we could see a record like

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Speaker 5: eight tackles go in the first round. It wouldn't shock me.

1350
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Speaker 5: You look at at corner has got some depth as well,

1351
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 5: and then you know we have the marquee quarterbacks. So

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01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 5: that's that's the that's where the you know, the big

1353
01:02:11,200 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 5: sales pitch comes from. But on the on the leaner

1354
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 5: side of things, I don't think we see a running

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Speaker 5: back going the top fifty picks. I think we'll see

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Speaker 5: one tight end going the top fifty picks off the

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Speaker 5: ball linebacker. You know, I think we'll see one go

1358
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Speaker 5: in the first round potentially. That's about it. So and

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Speaker 5: in even the depth of those positions isn't great. So

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Speaker 5: it's a you know, it's it's very neat specific, which

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01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 5: is gonna inform what teams do in free agency in

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01:02:34,240 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 5: a big way for sure.

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Speaker 3: And you just released your top fifty or your second

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Speaker 3: version of your top fifty at NFL dot com, and

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Speaker 3: you mentioned the quarterback Caleb Williams number one, And I

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01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 3: think a lot of the talk here this weekend is

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Speaker 3: gonna be about what are the Bears gonna do. They've

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Speaker 3: got the opportunity to draft Caleb Williams and kind of

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Speaker 3: reset that salary clock for them at that position. They

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Speaker 3: also had justin Field. So just from a college evaluation standpoint,

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Speaker 3: I know we've seen Justin in the pros. Now, how

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Speaker 3: did you compare those two coming out of college, Caleb

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Speaker 3: and Justin Fields.

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Speaker 5: Well, look, was a really good player coming out too,

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Speaker 5: as you know, but I mean somebody different styles. I

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01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 5: would say that Caleb's more loose and kind of more

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01:03:08,960 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 5: free as he plays, which can be a good thing

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Speaker 5: and a bad thing. Justin played a little bit more

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Speaker 5: in structure coming out of Ohio State. Now, Justin was

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Speaker 5: throwing two first round receivers everywhere with a pretty nice

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01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:24,680
Speaker 5: group in front of him as well. So that's to

1382
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 5: me is the thing that I've tried to hammer home

1383
01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 5: on Caleb and his defense is that everybody's got this

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Speaker 5: in their head of like USC, and this is you know,

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Speaker 5: Matt Lioner and Reggie Bush and Pete Carroll and national champs,

1386
01:03:36,360 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 5: like guys, that's like twenty years ago. Okay. Their defense

1387
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 5: was one hundred and twenty first in the country and

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01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 5: scoring defense. Texas Tech with Patrick Mahomes won twenty eight.

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Speaker 5: So he played with a team more close to Pat

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Speaker 5: Mahomes Texas Tech teams than to Pete Carroll's USC team.

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Speaker 5: So I just think people have a hard time seeing

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Speaker 5: that when you watch the tape and you watch rush three,

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Speaker 5: drop eight, and they're getting clean run throughs, and I'm like,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I mean, I play the I didn't

1395
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:02,040
Speaker 5: want to. I didn't know what to do with that.

1396
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Speaker 5: And I don't think he did either at times.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And it's one of those kind of the narratives

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Speaker 3: though they didn't win a lot of games, and guy's

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Speaker 3: a talented kid, one game.

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Speaker 5: Away from going to the playoff last year. And that's

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01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,960
Speaker 5: kind of what I jokingly have said. You know, I

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01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 5: like Jade Daniels a lot. Jane Daniels are really talented player.

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01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 5: But you know, if you say okay with Jayden and Daniels,

1404
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 5: you know, look at the success that he had, and

1405
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 5: he had a good offensive line, his two top fifteen

1406
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 5: pick wide receivers, and look at the year that he had.

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Speaker 5: And I said, and people want to talk about Caleb

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Speaker 5: and regressing, and I said, let's lose use your imagination.

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Speaker 5: Try to imagine what Caleb would be like if he

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Speaker 5: had just a mediocre offensive line, just a non terrible

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01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 5: offensive line and one first round wide receiver. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 5: he did the year before and he won the Heisman

1413
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Speaker 5: Trophy and we were talking about him as some generational player.

1414
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Speaker 5: So context matters.

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Speaker 3: No doubt, generational player perhaps Marvin Harrison Junior coming out

1416
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Speaker 3: of Ohio State. Who's your top non quarterback on your board?

1417
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Speaker 3: I think you number two overall. Are you surprised he's

1418
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 3: not doing anything, not even running a four, not just

1419
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,120
Speaker 3: putting a forty time out there? Are you surprised that

1420
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Speaker 3: he's decided I'm gonna do nothing, no pro date, nothing

1421
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,720
Speaker 3: to tape, and the tape does speak for itself, but

1422
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Speaker 3: to me, it's just a little surprising. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, look, selfishly, when you're covering the event, you

1424
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 5: want to see the stars get out there and move

1425
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 5: around and do your thing. But I mean, gosh, he

1426
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 5: was at the prodate Ohio State last year with Stroud

1427
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,400
Speaker 5: running routes and catching balls and it was like almost

1428
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Speaker 5: as many people talking about him who wasn't even eligible

1429
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 5: for the draft. Then we're talking about CJ coming out

1430
01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 5: of that day. So I mean, he's he's got a

1431
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 5: body of work. We've seen it all, is it?

1432
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Speaker 3: You know?

1433
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 5: I get it.

1434
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 3: I get it.

1435
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 5: I'm selfish as everybody else would be, and I'd want

1436
01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 5: to see him. But I mean I always explained to

1437
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:39,440
Speaker 5: somebody else. It'd be like somebody asking, you know, like

1438
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 5: a fifteen year old Mariah Carry to audition for the

1439
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 5: school play. Like really, I think I got I got

1440
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 5: the gig.

1441
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, because it from a front office standpoint, because to me,

1442
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,320
Speaker 3: it feels like a guy who has no red flags,

1443
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 3: and not that this is a red flag at all,

1444
01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 3: but just like just grow the time out there because

1445
01:05:53,560 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 3: the only thing that could ever potentially changes. He goes

1446
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,840
Speaker 3: out runs like a four to seven, right, which he's

1447
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 3: not going to do. So it's almost maybe it's because

1448
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: you know he's gonna run what he's gonna run for

1449
01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 3: three four low four fours that he doesn't have to.

1450
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 3: I just thought it was surprising because it could start

1451
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 3: a trend, right.

1452
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,360
Speaker 5: No, I think so it's just you're not gonna have

1453
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 5: as many guys with his track record and his name,

1454
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,720
Speaker 5: he all that, and the level of the competition he

1455
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,160
Speaker 5: played with and played against. So it's kind of a

1456
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,000
Speaker 5: one off, kind of a unique scenario. But I mean,

1457
01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:23,040
Speaker 5: I I remember when everybody freaks out every year when

1458
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 5: you know we have guys that don't do stuff Joe

1459
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 5: Burrow and oh, what does this mean? Is he not

1460
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 5: competitive in this? I was like, no, he's he just

1461
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 5: threw for five thousand yards and and won the uh

1462
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 5: you know, and won the national championship. I think he's

1463
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 5: comfortable and he's put enough out there, so I get it.

1464
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 5: I totally understand it, but I'm still selfish and wish

1465
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 5: you would do it absolutely.

1466
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Speaker 3: How many quarterbacks go in the first round? In your mind?

1467
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,640
Speaker 5: Oh gosh, I'm gonna say we got the three locks.

1468
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,840
Speaker 5: I think those go one, two, three. When it's all

1469
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 5: said and done, I'm gonna say we're going to get

1470
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Speaker 5: a fourth. And so to me, it comes down to

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Speaker 5: whether or not we get a fifth. So officially four

1472
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Speaker 5: and a half, we're gonna have four and a half quarterbacks.

1473
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:00,360
Speaker 3: That's it. It's full your draft watch parties. That's the

1474
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 3: number throw out there over an under four and a half, five,

1475
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 3: four or five? And I wake up for breakfast, I

1476
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 3: said four. When I go to have dinner at night,

1477
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,120
Speaker 3: I'll say five. I have a nice glass of wine.

1478
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 3: Sure why not? Of course? Absolutely? All right, Brown's again

1479
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:12,960
Speaker 3: no first round pick now, Andrew Berry thinks done a

1480
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 3: prety good job getting first round production.

1481
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 5: MJ.

1482
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 3: Emerson played great for US this year. Dwan Jones certainly

1483
01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 3: looks like Vience healthy could be up. She was a starter.

1484
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 5: I wish he was a little bigger.

1485
01:07:21,600 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 3: I don't know if they make them any bigger than

1486
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 3: that is a that is a massive young man who

1487
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,360
Speaker 3: for the Browns second round and maybe that's like defensive

1488
01:07:29,360 --> 01:07:31,600
Speaker 3: tackles for a second. Is there anybody or any first

1489
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,479
Speaker 3: round talents you think positionally will maybe make their way

1490
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 3: into the second round?

1491
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 5: You know there's defensive tackle wise is tricky because I

1492
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:41,120
Speaker 5: think Murphy to me is the one is the one

1493
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 5: guy that's gonna go up there. Then you have Newton

1494
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 5: from Illinois. I think those guys are both gone sweat is.

1495
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,160
Speaker 5: You know, the weight thing is an issue for teams.

1496
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,479
Speaker 5: They're worried about that he didn't weigh at the Senior Bowl.

1497
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Speaker 5: I think there's a good chance he's there when the

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Speaker 5: Browns pick if it just to me, doesn't feel like

1499
01:07:55,560 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 5: a Jim Schwartz type of defensive tackle. So the guy

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01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 5: I would keep an eye on is is Mason Smith

1501
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,400
Speaker 5: at LSU. Mason Smith was the number one defensive lineman

1502
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 5: of the country coming out of high school. He's of

1503
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 5: all these guys that are like six one, six two,

1504
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 5: he's gonna be six five plus long arms. He got

1505
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 5: kind of a Chris Jones frame to him. Had a

1506
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:17,000
Speaker 5: great freshman year, Tears' acl the beginning of the next

1507
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:20,519
Speaker 5: year hasn't really been the same guy. But that's what

1508
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 5: the second round is. The second round is a little

1509
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 5: bit of a Hey, let's let's roll the dice. There's

1510
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 5: some upside here, and he's literally he has the highest

1511
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 5: ceiling of any defensive tackle in the draft.

1512
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Speaker 3: All right, so write that name down. Browns fans. Let's

1513
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:34,840
Speaker 3: talk receivers. You mentioned every year it's loaded Day two.

1514
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:37,040
Speaker 3: Now you're getting guys that make immediate contributions in the

1515
01:08:37,120 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 3: National Football League. Who are some of your favorite Day

1516
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:40,679
Speaker 3: two wide receivers.

1517
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 5: Well, there's a there's a bunch of them. But to me,

1518
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 5: you know, Lad McConkie from George is really fun. Just

1519
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 5: he knows how to separate run routes, get open, and

1520
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 5: he's he does some things after the catch that kind

1521
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:52,439
Speaker 5: of surprise you with his quickness and the juice. Malachi

1522
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:54,680
Speaker 5: Corley from Western Kentucky is just a run after the

1523
01:08:54,720 --> 01:08:57,680
Speaker 5: catch machine. So if you're looking for that guy, you know,

1524
01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,519
Speaker 5: flip him a you know, get him a bubble screen,

1525
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 5: flip him shovel, like, just let him get the ball

1526
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,880
Speaker 5: in his hands and go. He's a lot of fun

1527
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 5: there in that range. There's there's you know, between Troy

1528
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,679
Speaker 5: Franklin at at at Oregon and then Adnai Mitchell from Texas.

1529
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 5: I think they're guys that maybe like top of two guys,

1530
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,240
Speaker 5: but I have a feeling after they do what they're

1531
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,040
Speaker 5: gonna do out here that they probably aren't gonna be

1532
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,600
Speaker 5: there when Cleveland picks. They probably end up in a

1533
01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:20,000
Speaker 5: round one.

1534
01:09:20,080 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 3: Are those some of that take the top off the

1535
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:23,599
Speaker 3: defense guys? That's what the Browns are always looking for, right,

1536
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:25,640
Speaker 3: is that guy to really take You got Amari, you

1537
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 3: got David Ajoku, you got Elijah More, But we need

1538
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,559
Speaker 3: that stretcher. Those are some of the stretchers.

1539
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 5: Those are big time stretchers. But you know, Xavier Worthy

1540
01:09:31,880 --> 01:09:33,639
Speaker 5: is another one. He could be there from Texas because

1541
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,000
Speaker 5: he's a little bit leaner, a little bit lighter. He's

1542
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 5: gonna blaze out here. He's gonna he might run under

1543
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,439
Speaker 5: four three. So wide receivers. Look, if you're Cleveland and

1544
01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 5: you want a wide receiver, it is your year, you're

1545
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 5: gonna get one.

1546
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 3: The other hat you wear as the color analyst on

1547
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,759
Speaker 3: the Chargers radio network. How do you compare your draft

1548
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:53,200
Speaker 3: prep to game prep in your role as the analyst.

1549
01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:56,040
Speaker 5: Well, it's it's it's fun to me. I kind of

1550
01:09:56,040 --> 01:09:58,840
Speaker 5: look at it as as like Halloween is my is

1551
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,800
Speaker 5: my marker. So, I mean, I'm pretty much all in

1552
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,800
Speaker 5: on on the NFL season, doing the stuff we're doing

1553
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:05,800
Speaker 5: an NFL network as well as you know, calling the

1554
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,479
Speaker 5: Charger games. And then Halloween comes and I go, Okay,

1555
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 5: we've got a pretty nice chunk of college games in

1556
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 5: the system. Now I better get started. So that's when

1557
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,680
Speaker 5: I really start to crank on the college guys. And

1558
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,519
Speaker 5: then really it's a sprint, you know, from there to

1559
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:19,880
Speaker 5: get to.

1560
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 3: Hear no doubt, Jim Harbaugh coming to town there with

1561
01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 3: their charges, how about how about that?

1562
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,600
Speaker 5: So there's billboards up all over La. I mean, is

1563
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 5: it is is, Jim Harbaugh is everywhere. It's created a

1564
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:32,880
Speaker 5: lot of buzz and a lot of excitement. And it

1565
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,640
Speaker 5: wasn't even just I mean, obviously his his presence is

1566
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,320
Speaker 5: a big deal, but the staff that he was able

1567
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 5: to build and bring in there is a really good staff,

1568
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 5: well respected, and it seems to be a lot of

1569
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 5: energy and a lot of passion. Look, the Chargers have won.

1570
01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:46,840
Speaker 5: I've been there calling games for six years, won a

1571
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,240
Speaker 5: lot of off seasons and now it's going to translate

1572
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:50,559
Speaker 5: and get into the regular season.

1573
01:10:50,600 --> 01:10:52,839
Speaker 3: So that's the hope. Always helps them. They have justin Herbert.

1574
01:10:52,920 --> 01:10:55,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's pretty good. You know, I'm curious to see

1575
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,120
Speaker 5: how they you know, they've got big decisions to make.

1576
01:10:57,120 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 5: They've got four big contracts. They're over the cap, so

1577
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:02,040
Speaker 5: they got to figure out, you know, Mike, Williams, Keenan, Allen,

1578
01:11:02,080 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 5: Bosa and Mack they're gonna have to do some gymnastics there.

1579
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 3: They have a nice end of You've had all the

1580
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,080
Speaker 3: wide receivers in case they need to do some succession

1581
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 3: planning there.

1582
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. It's it's all right there, It's

1583
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 5: all right in front of you.

1584
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,840
Speaker 3: Daniel, always a pleasure. Your coverage starts I know later

1585
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 3: on this week on the NFL Network. Follow him at

1586
01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 3: Move the Sticks on Twitter. The great Daniel Jeremi, thanks

1587
01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:20,120
Speaker 3: for the time.

1588
01:11:20,160 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 5: Is always always enjoyed it.

1589
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 2: Thanks all right, great stuff there we see and Daniel

1590
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:27,280
Speaker 2: Jeremiah his NFL Network Buddy, Mister Andrews Siliana, one of

1591
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 2: the voices of the Browns this past season, had some

1592
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: fantastic calls.

1593
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 3: He will sit with us here in Ada. Coming up next.

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Speaker 3: year very very good.

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Speaker 7: Although, like I pointed out earlier, four and one when

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01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 7: it comes to attended games, I was there for the

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01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,160
Speaker 7: Rams game which was in.

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01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 2: L Could we present it in a way where three

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01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:38,200
Speaker 2: and oh while working for the Browns one in one

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01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,040
Speaker 2: is a fan, one and one is a fan, right,

1613
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 2: and and plus you could also ask.

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01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:44,000
Speaker 7: Bout like why are you being negative? Like except the

1615
01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 7: three and right to the negative, pragmatic over to wash

1616
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:54,280
Speaker 7: over you let the glory. For the record, I had

1617
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 7: zero to do with.

1618
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:57,760
Speaker 3: The product on the field.

1619
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 2: A lot of people who are nine label up right

1620
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 2: there with John Lynch on the screen.

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Speaker 3: And that's a hell of a call that you had

1622
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 3: at the end. There can Brandon Staley run a four

1623
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 3: to three John Lynch? That would be my question.

1624
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, he looks like he's saying yes, Yeah, that's what

1625
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:14,400
Speaker 2: it looks like to me. Absolutely. We were talking this morning.

1626
01:13:14,439 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: We talked last night at dinner a little bit and

1627
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,960
Speaker 2: you said you were coming. You had like a tradition

1628
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 2: you and you're a buddy of yours with's another organization.

1629
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 3: You go, this is what you do. You go.

1630
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 7: It's a small world, this NFL world, man really is

1631
01:13:25,200 --> 01:13:28,480
Speaker 7: and everyone is here. This is the convention of all conventions.

1632
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 7: Like I was just talking talking to a GM about

1634
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,439
Speaker 7: twenty minutes ago about how the Senior Bowl is changing, right,

1635
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 7: not a lot of people, well not a lot. I

1636
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 7: mean you don't see as many coaches and gms. Yeah,

1637
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 7: still going to that, and this. You and I spoke earlier.

1638
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,280
Speaker 7: This is kind of changing a bit, right. I think

1639
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:49,759
Speaker 7: there are may be six head coaches that aren't here,

1640
01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:55,960
Speaker 7: but still the overwhelming majority of the football world is here.

1641
01:13:56,040 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 7: And it's not just oh coach and GM, it's entire staffs.

1642
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 7: Every agent is here. I'm on the broadcasting side, not

1643
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 7: only talent from all over but network executives. Everybody is here, and.

1644
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:13,440
Speaker 3: It follows a very familiar pattern. You know where everybody's

1645
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,200
Speaker 3: gonna be yes every single night, so you will run

1646
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 3: into them.

1647
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 7: There are a couple of hotel lobbies, a couple of

1648
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 7: bars that will never change. The key, however, is is

1649
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 7: finding the out of the waist spot because there are

1650
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 7: some coaches and gms that are like I don't want

1651
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 7: to deal with the moskit that I know will be

1652
01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 7: that lobby or that bar or that restaurant. And the

1653
01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 7: fun in Indianapolis is finding restaurants away from this walkable downtown.

1654
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:40,919
Speaker 3: There's some really good places.

1655
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 7: Sure, I generally don't make the effort, but sometimes you can.

1656
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 3: And then you'll always hear.

1657
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 7: The story Ryan Pole sat down to trade the number

1658
01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:53,679
Speaker 7: one overall pick when he and and and Scott Fitterer,

1659
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 7: you know, drove twenty miles away from town. They had

1660
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 7: an Abahn pan or something, and the normal haven't yet.

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01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:05,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, is the Jerry buss here? That was always one

1662
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 3: of my confirmed Okay, it is here.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely. I've told my interns that's your only mission this week.

1664
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 3: Get on.

1665
01:15:13,040 --> 01:15:15,280
Speaker 2: I see that thing. I just think nothing to me,

1666
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 2: says NFL. Combine all of it, the bus and the busy.

1667
01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,400
Speaker 7: The way can they they collectively can only stay at

1668
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 7: certain hotels. They mean the Cowboys as a team because

1669
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 7: there there is only sufficient bus parking at certain hotels.

1670
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Speaker 3: That's a good, that's a good. Have you been on

1671
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 3: the bus? I have been on the bus. That's two.

1672
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Speaker 3: That's two of them, two of the four. I have

1673
01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 3: two of them. We know you have Gibbet and he's

1674
01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 3: got It's a hell of an accomplishment. It is. It

1675
01:15:42,040 --> 01:15:46,080
Speaker 3: is facidal right up in there. Do you think and

1676
01:15:46,160 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 3: this is maybe it's my mind because we don't have

1677
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:49,800
Speaker 3: a first round pick, so I'm not as focused on

1678
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:54,360
Speaker 3: the draft as you. Yeah, it feels to me like

1679
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 3: there's more business to be done at the combine now

1680
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,240
Speaker 3: around free agency than necessarily the draft.

1681
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 7: So it's not mine there is. I wouldn't call it

1682
01:16:03,720 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 7: tampering per se discussion. But what happens is, let's take

1683
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 7: Andrew Berry for example, right, whether it would be Zadarias

1684
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 7: Smith or whether it would be Nick Chubb or whomever,

1685
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,360
Speaker 7: you meet with the agents that you need to meet

1686
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 7: with this week to at least feel each other out,

1687
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,759
Speaker 7: to try to figure out how you're going to approach

1688
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 7: next week or two weeks from now on the eleventh,

1689
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 7: and so that business all gets done this week. You know,

1690
01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 7: player will see it broken all week. He player X

1691
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 7: is gonna get cut. It's because the GM you know,

1692
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:41,920
Speaker 7: finally sits down to the owner and goes, hey, we've

1693
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,519
Speaker 7: been talking about it. We think we're going to move on,

1694
01:16:43,800 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 7: or hey, you can go explore a trade.

1695
01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1696
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 7: I mean, yes, are there conversations like my guy is

1697
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:54,400
Speaker 7: going to leave this team and you're already hammering out

1698
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 7: a new deal. That technically would be tampering, But that

1699
01:16:58,200 --> 01:17:05,560
Speaker 7: doesn't mean, you know, correticals.

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01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,200
Speaker 3: Can't be bandied, that's right, hypothet.

1701
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: What do you make about so many teams have so

1702
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:11,200
Speaker 2: many different You mentioned Andrew Berry, who so often, like

1703
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 2: we are fans sometimes and even will give him a

1704
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:14,080
Speaker 2: bad time.

1705
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 3: Him and Kevin.

1706
01:17:15,320 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 2: There's not a they don't say a whole lot in

1707
01:17:17,680 --> 01:17:21,360
Speaker 2: their availabilities. We and and and so we had Ryan

1708
01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:23,360
Speaker 2: Poles was up and he was talking about how they

1709
01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,200
Speaker 2: haven't made a decision on fields, and we're going on,

1710
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:27,439
Speaker 2: come on, come on, nonsense. Of course the decision has

1711
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:29,200
Speaker 2: been made on fields. It's just a manner of landing spot.

1712
01:17:29,200 --> 01:17:32,200
Speaker 2: And then conversely George Payton with Denver, who was like, yeah,

1713
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 2: we're gonna meet with JJ McCarthy tonight.

1714
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:37,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, like so like just the the.

1715
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:41,639
Speaker 2: Incredible difference in transparency that gms have publicly right now,

1716
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:44,280
Speaker 2: it's I've never seen it so such a big game.

1717
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:46,679
Speaker 7: I would say there, there is a big spectrum here.

1718
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 7: You can also look at each situation and go yeah,

1719
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:52,840
Speaker 7: well no bleep, of course you're going to meet with

1720
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:56,960
Speaker 7: those quarterbacks here. Sean Payton, So I was standing over there,

1721
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,360
Speaker 7: Sean Payton was up right before George. George Payton was

1722
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,200
Speaker 7: sitting there. Why Sean Payton and Shawn gets up their

1723
01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,360
Speaker 7: first question, what's to do with Russell? Hey, it's going

1724
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,720
Speaker 7: to happen quickly next week or within the next two weeks.

1725
01:18:06,800 --> 01:18:08,559
Speaker 7: It will happen before the start of free agency. We're

1726
01:18:08,560 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 7: going to figure it out. So like he just laid

1727
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 7: it out there, right, You don't often hear we're going

1728
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:18,000
Speaker 7: to meet with player X. But at the same time,

1729
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:19,640
Speaker 7: when you flip it around and you always see this

1730
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 7: senior bowl. Oh I heard you would see Team X

1731
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 7: scene meeting with this player in mobile. Yes, it is

1732
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 7: their job to meet with every player in mobile. That

1733
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 7: is why your staff is there, right, and so that

1734
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:36,759
Speaker 7: is why your staff is here.

1735
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 3: No one.

1736
01:18:37,720 --> 01:18:40,160
Speaker 7: I mean, it's no secret the Broncos in the quarterback business,

1737
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,640
Speaker 7: they will meet with JJ McCarthy.

1738
01:18:43,080 --> 01:18:46,080
Speaker 3: People think of this as a great information gathering on

1739
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 3: draft prospects, but it's actually an information gathering on the

1740
01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 3: lead everything everything course, yeah, yeah, yeah, And that's the

1741
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 3: value in it. I think that's why Indy is so

1742
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 3: good for it because to your point, it is condensed. Now,

1743
01:18:58,280 --> 01:18:59,600
Speaker 3: if you want to go twenty minutes away to an

1744
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 3: Obama and be in k you can, but you can

1745
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 3: and trades like that are done all the time.

1746
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:06,320
Speaker 7: I guarantee you that's that's happening right now, whether it's

1747
01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 7: I mean, Tom Telesco just said they're not going to

1748
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 7: trade Devontae Adams. But you know what did Brandon Bean

1749
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 7: say about Steph Diggs. I didn't hear his session. I

1750
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 7: guarantee if someone calls up with a.

1751
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,120
Speaker 3: Steph Diggs offer, they'll offer, they'll listen for Justin Field's.

1752
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:20,599
Speaker 7: And that was the one thing that I didn't hear.

1753
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 7: Those one frustrating thing because I don't know where Ryan

1754
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,200
Speaker 7: did his. He didn't do it in this main center.

1755
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 7: The Bears had him somewhere else, but I listened to it.

1756
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 7: No one asked Ryan point blank, do you have an

1757
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 7: offer yet for Justin.

1758
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:34,600
Speaker 3: No, they asked the other They said, do you have

1759
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,080
Speaker 3: an offer for the one? Right? But not for Fields?

1760
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 3: Which I thought was interesting that was asked, And the

1761
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:39,599
Speaker 3: other one.

1762
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,120
Speaker 7: Was and the thing too, and and everyone, I think

1763
01:19:42,160 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 7: we all agree. Take Caleb, I mean, rest clock the

1764
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,160
Speaker 7: way you have to do business here. But you know

1765
01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 7: there are other options. You know, let's let's let's play

1766
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,240
Speaker 7: the thought experiment. It's not a binary decision here. You

1767
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 7: could trade both Justin Fields and number one. Okay, you

1768
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,280
Speaker 7: could trade Justin Field and maybe get a two and

1769
01:20:01,320 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 7: a five or whatever whatever it's going to be, right,

1770
01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:05,839
Speaker 7: A three that goes to a two and something else whatever,

1771
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:10,080
Speaker 7: and you can trade one down to two.

1772
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:12,160
Speaker 3: Like if you're happy with Drake May.

1773
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,559
Speaker 7: Washington will gladly move up with you, Like you really

1774
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:17,080
Speaker 7: want to hit a home run, you really want to

1775
01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 7: think outside the box, trade one and justin fields. If

1776
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 7: you think Drake May can be that guy where Jayden

1777
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 7: Daniels can be that guy. Yeah, personally I take Caleb.

1778
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,160
Speaker 7: That's just me, but who knows.

1779
01:20:30,479 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 3: Well, that's what's fun about it, and I think that's

1780
01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 3: what we're saying. You're waiting for that Chicago domino to

1781
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:37,160
Speaker 3: drop and then really it kind of opens everything up, right,

1782
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,559
Speaker 3: that kind of is the real table setter for everything,

1783
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:44,120
Speaker 3: and it changes wharefields goes changes obviously, then the quarterback landscape.

1784
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,840
Speaker 3: And you know we heard he Moore earlier they say

1785
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,640
Speaker 3: that if we had good quarterback play, we would have

1786
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 3: been really good right there, which was as.

1787
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 7: She said, if we had better quarterback play last year,

1788
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:58,720
Speaker 7: you wouldn't be there, I wouldn't.

1789
01:20:58,320 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 3: Be standing here.

1790
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 7: And by the way, he's absolutely right. And everyone said, well,

1791
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 7: he's throwing Desermon Ritter out of the bus. It's already

1792
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,200
Speaker 7: been done. Like I had Arthur blank On on Friday

1793
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,160
Speaker 7: of super Bowl week and we were talking about Belichick

1794
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 7: and I said, well, the thing everyone said with Belichick

1795
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 7: was all right, if you hire Belichick, well who's the

1796
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:20,040
Speaker 7: quarterback going to be? And he picked up my sentence

1797
01:21:20,080 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 7: and ran with it and went, it's the same thing now,

1798
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 7: like who's the quarterback going to be?

1799
01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 3: It was the owner.

1800
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:30,519
Speaker 7: So Desmond Ritters are in the business right now of

1801
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 7: replacing him.

1802
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 2: I think, what were you when you? I didn't I

1803
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:35,840
Speaker 2: miss that that you when you talked with Arthur on

1804
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 2: the week of the Super Bowl? Was that was there?

1805
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 2: Are you surprised that Belichick got out of this cycle?

1806
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 2: There weren't a lot of bets for him.

1807
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 7: I mean, that was the one right and the thing

1808
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:48,839
Speaker 7: that that Arthur Arthur said and Raheem Actually Terry Fonta

1809
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:51,599
Speaker 7: said the same thing today rather and that was Bill

1810
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 7: Belichick was going to be collaborative and everything was going

1811
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 7: to be okay. We just chose to go with raheat.

1812
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 3: Now.

1813
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 7: I'm a huge Raheem fan. Worked in the last couple

1814
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 7: of years in LA with the Rams, Like, if Raheem

1815
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:07,519
Speaker 7: gets in the room, you understand why this guy needs

1816
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 7: to be a head coach.

1817
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:12,040
Speaker 3: Again, It's still Bill Belichick. Yeah, right, Belichick.

1818
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:14,760
Speaker 7: And you know, whether it's you know, people have their

1819
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 7: theories about, you know, too much power for Rich McKay

1820
01:22:17,320 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 7: or whatever. I don't know, but I do think it

1821
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:24,960
Speaker 7: is fair to ask, Like it's the old parcels thing, right,

1822
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 7: you know, by the growth, cook the meal, buy the groceries.

1823
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 3: Is who would be by the groceries? You just wonder

1824
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 3: if somebody is setting up to do with Duck Rivers

1825
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 3: that just pull him in, Fire somebody mid season and

1826
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:41,559
Speaker 3: bring Jerry. I mean, of course Dallas. Like if it

1827
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:43,720
Speaker 3: went off, like if it started poorly with McCarthy, could

1828
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 3: eat bear a bit of that. I can't see it

1829
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:48,480
Speaker 3: happening in season.

1830
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: Now, he's right, my father time though undefeated. No, he's

1831
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,479
Speaker 2: gotta it's gotta go. If he's gonna go, it.

1832
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 7: Be next year. I don't think it would be in season.

1833
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:58,800
Speaker 7: The fascinating thing for me is, as you guys said,

1834
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 7: saw John Lynch up there. You know, would do you

1835
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,519
Speaker 7: call Belichick for that job? I don't think that's going

1836
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,879
Speaker 7: to happen. Or do you call Pete Carroll, Niner assistant

1837
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,639
Speaker 7: eight decades ago for that job? That would have been

1838
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 7: really interesting if it weren't you know Nick Sorenson or

1839
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 7: Brandon Staley or somebody else.

1840
01:23:19,760 --> 01:23:21,960
Speaker 3: Like, do you want Belichick in your building as a coordinator?

1841
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 3: Are you comfortable enough? Coach? I don't know that he

1842
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:30,880
Speaker 3: would do it, BUTAUI Kyle would. Look, they made the trade.

1843
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:32,880
Speaker 3: It's not as if they don't have each other's phone numbers. There.

1844
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 7: I think they'd be okay. But as a head coach,

1845
01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 7: do you want that?

1846
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 3: That would be interesting? I mean, I think very comfortable

1847
01:23:39,439 --> 01:23:42,240
Speaker 3: and he could handle it, but it's that's a lot. Yeah,

1848
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,280
Speaker 3: it's a lot. And by the way, you mentioned.

1849
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:48,000
Speaker 7: Uh the Bears thing and fields, I'm sorry. Paul said

1850
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,960
Speaker 7: today that he he wants to do right by Justin

1851
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 7: if they decide to move on, and likely that is

1852
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:57,639
Speaker 7: before free agency last year, the deal with the Panthers

1853
01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 7: was made I think the friday, the Thursday or friday

1854
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 7: before free agency was to begin the following Monday.

1855
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 3: So it's coming soon to me when I hear him

1856
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,400
Speaker 3: say that, based on everything we've heard Justin say he

1857
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:14,759
Speaker 3: wants to go to Atlanta, it feels like he's from Atlanta.

1858
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 3: I thought.

1859
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 7: He pushed back on that last week a little bit,

1860
01:24:18,439 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 7: basically saying everyone in your uncle is going to have

1861
01:24:21,320 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 7: your hands out for a ticket. I mean there are

1862
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:25,320
Speaker 7: a lot of players you know this that don't like

1863
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:26,880
Speaker 7: to play near it, that don't want to play in

1864
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 7: near home because there're too many.

1865
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,479
Speaker 2: Drake and yeah, he was, he was very very positive

1866
01:24:34,479 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 2: obviously about the roster. The other thing you got to

1867
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,439
Speaker 2: remember it didn't end the best for him at Uga,

1868
01:24:39,320 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 2: So there's that part two. Maybe he just but to

1869
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 2: me it's that that's the spot. I mean, that's the

1870
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:45,840
Speaker 2: best spot.

1871
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 7: And the other question that no one asked polls today,

1872
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:53,160
Speaker 7: and I think this is the one that everybody is missing,

1873
01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 7: and that is, let's say you decide to keep Justin

1874
01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,160
Speaker 7: and there is a very loud faction of the Bears

1875
01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 7: fan base that wants to just Fields. Are you ready

1876
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,920
Speaker 7: to extend him right now? Because you're heading into year

1877
01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:07,439
Speaker 7: four right Burrow and Herbert. I mean, you could do

1878
01:25:07,479 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 7: what the Dolphins did and punt for a year potentially

1879
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 7: like what they're doing with Tua here. But if you

1880
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 7: trade away number one, you are not just committing to

1881
01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:20,439
Speaker 7: Justin Field. You're committing to Justin So are you ready

1882
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:24,960
Speaker 7: to write a check right now? That begins at Daniel Jones, like,

1883
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:26,759
Speaker 7: are you gonna pay him forty a year tomorrow?

1884
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 3: Yeah? Are you? Because that's what you have to do

1885
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 3: if you that's why they can't keep him. That's why

1886
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:34,479
Speaker 3: he can pay him.

1887
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:36,120
Speaker 2: Because they don't have the answer to that. But you

1888
01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 2: want to have the other thing. Andrew, think about this.

1889
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,160
Speaker 2: There aren't guys, what other circumstances we have like this

1890
01:25:41,200 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 2: where you have a guy who is immensely popular in

1891
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,560
Speaker 2: the fan immensely popular in the fan base, who's flashed

1892
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 2: but you're not sure. And then you have a kid who,

1893
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:54,760
Speaker 2: like Daniel Jrmiah thinks is generational. Yeap, other people's do too.

1894
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:58,720
Speaker 2: It's a heck, it's the right spot. But like at

1895
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,160
Speaker 2: the same time, like we know owners and like you

1896
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 2: public opinion ways. I mean, they're going to do it,

1897
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 2: but it's just this is a unique spot. We haven't

1898
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 2: seen teams in this position drafting number one where they

1899
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,680
Speaker 2: had a beloved guy who they just drafted a couple

1900
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,720
Speaker 2: of years ago as the savior. He's young, but your

1901
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 2: beloved guy in year eight, right, not your four.

1902
01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:22,840
Speaker 3: I mean it's not apples apples because he wasn't good.

1903
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 3: But it's like when they drafted Josh Rosen and then

1904
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,080
Speaker 3: we came here in the next year, they had number one,

1905
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 3: right and they went They're like, yeah, we're done, We're

1906
01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:32,719
Speaker 3: But Rozen never showed anything that. No, he wasn't beloved

1907
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 3: I don't know by the father. So no, Josh, no,

1908
01:26:37,200 --> 01:26:41,320
Speaker 3: but he was with us for aye. He was keep

1909
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 3: an eye on Josh Rosen.

1910
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:44,080
Speaker 7: Saw him ride his bike through Manhattan Beach a couple

1911
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:48,360
Speaker 7: of weeks ago as well. The no true story right

1912
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 7: down the street. But the thing with them as well

1913
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 7: is like that he should have known the second like

1914
01:26:56,040 --> 01:26:59,840
Speaker 7: you could have connected the dots Cliff, who's Cliff Kingsbury's agent? Yeah,

1915
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 7: Eric Burkhart, Okay, they were college roommates. Who's Kyler's agent?

1916
01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:06,920
Speaker 3: Eric Burkhart?

1917
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:10,280
Speaker 7: Like the idea, like you could have connected all those dots.

1918
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:14,000
Speaker 7: It was never his surprise, like from the second those

1919
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 7: hires were made.

1920
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 3: Yeah for sure, be out in the mix. Be in

1921
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,280
Speaker 3: the mix, gonna be fun. Good talking to you. Boddy's

1922
01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 3: the best.

1923
01:27:20,200 --> 01:27:21,479
Speaker 5: We didn't even talk about the Browns.

1924
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, we'll give them, We'll give them one. What

1925
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:27,600
Speaker 3: what do you want to where do you want to

1926
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 3: see the Browns go in the second round or just

1927
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,040
Speaker 3: kind of generally speaking, attacking free agency second round this roster,

1928
01:27:33,200 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 3: you think they're keeping that pick. I'd like to. I

1929
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:36,960
Speaker 3: would like to as well.

1930
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:38,920
Speaker 2: That's just because he does a show on Thursday and

1931
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:40,879
Speaker 2: Friday of the draft. If we don't pick until.

1932
01:27:40,680 --> 01:27:43,599
Speaker 3: The Saturday, no, I've been there, I get it. Treadmill,

1933
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,720
Speaker 3: We've waited the m j Emerson here, we did not

1934
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:47,600
Speaker 3: pick until the third round. We traded out of the

1935
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:48,799
Speaker 3: second tread Billy.

1936
01:27:48,840 --> 01:27:52,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, that thing worked out, okay, exactly, I think, and

1937
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 7: I'm sure Daniel Jeremiah told him the same thing. It

1938
01:27:54,560 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 7: is a very deep class a wide receiver there. There

1939
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,559
Speaker 7: will be a very good wide receiver there at two.

1940
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 7: But you know, we haven't even gotten a free agency yet,

1941
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:06,040
Speaker 7: so who knows that department a second round or I mean,

1942
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 7: if if there has to come a time and I

1943
01:28:09,080 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 7: know obviously j Oka was taken, where you address that

1944
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:17,800
Speaker 7: position with something other than veteran stop gaps. I mean,

1945
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:20,599
Speaker 7: there are some decent off ball linebackers in the second round,

1946
01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:23,559
Speaker 7: but positional value the way this organization thinks, I can't

1947
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:24,920
Speaker 7: imagine that they would do that.

1948
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 3: I feel like they're hoping for a defensive tackle that

1949
01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 3: would excite them to.

1950
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 7: Be there, yeah, or an edge guy never would excite you.

1951
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 7: The the premium positions will nominate the first round if

1952
01:28:40,760 --> 01:28:43,839
Speaker 7: you put a center or two in like put Oregon,

1953
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 7: put JPJ in there, maybe Zach Frasier from from West Virginia.

1954
01:28:49,640 --> 01:28:52,120
Speaker 7: Those are the only two guys I think that have

1955
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 7: a possibility of cracking the first round. Aside from the

1956
01:28:55,840 --> 01:29:04,599
Speaker 7: premium tackle, wide, receiver, edge, corner, quarterback positions. Those five

1957
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 7: positions will dominate the night. Number one, oh yeah, last

1958
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:10,360
Speaker 7: year were only what two and I think there were

1959
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:12,560
Speaker 7: both the Lions running.

1960
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:17,000
Speaker 3: Back of the lineback exactly three and oh three a lost.

1961
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 3: He's like, it's like LeVar.

1962
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 2: I'll retire, no, no, far from it. So much more

1963
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,280
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1964
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1965
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1967
01:29:44,520 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 3: Well long last year, Long Week at the Combine is over.

1968
01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:51,360
Speaker 3: I'm doing your favorite thing to do in Indy, leaving

1969
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:56,120
Speaker 3: real run Run. The kid is gone. I love you,

1970
01:29:56,600 --> 01:29:59,040
Speaker 3: Oh we love you too. I will miss you. We'll

1971
01:29:59,080 --> 01:30:01,800
Speaker 3: hear your voice over the next couple of days. We'll

1972
01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:02,599
Speaker 3: here first.

1973
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:08,000
Speaker 2: But yeah, so drive safe, thank you, avoid the various

1974
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 2: potholes and other things and the troopers. Yeah, there was

1975
01:30:11,880 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 2: we could not reach a consensus. There was a lot

1976
01:30:13,680 --> 01:30:15,840
Speaker 2: of emphatic answers on how fast you could go and

1977
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 2: get away with it. There's a lot of eight, you're great,

1978
01:30:18,600 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 2: nine your mind.

1979
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:21,960
Speaker 3: It seems outrageous that there was a nine year great,

1980
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:23,840
Speaker 3: ten year, I mean there was. To me, ten is

1981
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 3: a pretty good point of demarcation, like eight nine. What's

1982
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 3: the difference? Well, I would yes, yeah, I don't know.

1983
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 3: I don't The reality is what's the difference between nine

1984
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:35,280
Speaker 3: and ten? Nothing? But at least ten feels like that

1985
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,760
Speaker 3: changes to me. From under one hundred it should be fine.

1986
01:30:38,840 --> 01:30:41,200
Speaker 3: Who gets hurt? The maturely should be eighty five and

1987
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 3: then they should be like hard limits yeah, or even

1988
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,840
Speaker 3: really had a hard eighty but hard like if you're

1989
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:48,439
Speaker 3: eighty one, No, done, this is it, this is when

1990
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,040
Speaker 3: it's it. We mean it. Yeah.

1991
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:52,000
Speaker 2: What's really frustrating is when you get go from a

1992
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 2: seventy to a sixty five to a fifty five, Like

1993
01:30:54,600 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 2: the last ten miles in here is fifty five and

1994
01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:56,960
Speaker 2: I'm going, what.

1995
01:30:57,240 --> 01:30:57,840
Speaker 3: Are we doing?

1996
01:30:57,920 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 2: What are we cars aren't even made to go that.

1997
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,000
Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back tomorrow here at the combine.

1998
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