Speaker 1: It's nine Ogene Onegen with Jenny Garth and Tory spelling.
Speaker 2: This is so exciting.
Speaker 1: What's so exciting?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I don't know. I was trying
Speaker 2: to pretend.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I was like I wanted to be like, oh, I
Speaker 2: don't know about this, but then I was like, no,
Speaker 2: we can start that way. But oh, guys, I don't
Speaker 2: know about this.
Speaker 1: I don't know about this hair. I was like, what
Speaker 1: the hair?
Speaker 2: I didn't realize it got shorter again. I thought we
Speaker 2: were on that grow.
Speaker 1: I really thought we were growing it out.
Speaker 2: Ye see.
Speaker 1: And by this point you've already told me that I
Speaker 1: had so mom soccer mom hair, So why would I
Speaker 1: then push it further?
Speaker 2: Well, now you're just being defiant.
Speaker 1: I don't like being told to do Apparently.
Speaker 2: We know that. Oh my goodness, it's so short. See.
Speaker 2: I like this short, though, you do.
Speaker 3: This is the cool short, Okay, I believe so.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure about the color.
Speaker 1: But what about the highlights.
Speaker 2: I like the highlights, which nowadays the kids call them
Speaker 2: the money pieces. You were so ahead of your time.
Speaker 3: Look at this, we.
Speaker 2: Were and you had money pieces. Why is the backwarm?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I couldn't see that part.
Speaker 2: You were just looking at highlights. Yeah, yeah, it's a
Speaker 2: little warm. It needs a little toner.
Speaker 1: We got hair to talk about. To talk about. This
Speaker 1: is episode eleven. It's called Deadline and aired. It aired
Speaker 1: in November nineteen ninety seven. November nineteenth to be exact.
Speaker 2: Synopsis. Just when you think David's luck is turning, OMG,
Speaker 2: the peapad is burning, Eric is pimp gets arrested, Steve's
Speaker 2: DNA gets tested, Donna kicks David to the curb. Kelly's
Speaker 2: pixie cut is superb. Battery's being a total witch. Nobody
Speaker 2: told her Noah was rich.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Love the rhymes so good.
Speaker 2: It's way better than the episode we just ended there.
Speaker 1: Yep, we'll talk to you next week.
Speaker 3: Guys imagine.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, where to begin?
Speaker 2: Okay, where should we begin? I don't know at the beginning?
Speaker 2: With your haircut, it's the first line of the episode.
Speaker 1: You know what I felt like, I felt like she
Speaker 1: belonged in like New Kids on the Block or a
Speaker 1: boy bands that haircut? Like, yeah, me, her?
Speaker 2: Why is she a she? Now? She hurt you?
Speaker 1: Kelly is not me, she's her, She's you. She's a she.
Speaker 2: Totally you, part of you, a part of you can
Speaker 2: never get rid of. Never, it's not.
Speaker 1: But did you not like, did she not look like Lance?
Speaker 1: Bast to you? I did again?
Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh my god, that just heard hers. Oh no,
Speaker 2: I don't know, Adam. I can't win this one. I
Speaker 2: love Lance's hair, but not on Kelly. No, stop trying
Speaker 2: to ruin it. I thought it looked really good.
Speaker 1: You are great.
Speaker 2: But you know what, So my dad had this thing
Speaker 2: I think we've talked about this before where anytime hair
Speaker 2: was altered on the show usually had to get permission,
Speaker 2: probably not eight season. I'm sure you didn't have to,
Speaker 2: but they had to write it in the script. Oh right, right,
Speaker 2: So it's like the opening of the show. It just
Speaker 2: feels so like I'm like, oh yeah, my dad was like,
Speaker 2: make sure they know her hair is different?
Speaker 1: Can't they tell?
Speaker 2: I wonder why that bugged him so much? Though? Who's
Speaker 2: that a thing that bugged him? But not this episode?
Speaker 1: The first line is Erica saying, does Brandon like your
Speaker 1: new haircut?
Speaker 2: Imagine if you like just kept walking but you had
Speaker 2: that look in your face.
Speaker 1: Like, who cares? That's so true?
Speaker 2: Who's Brandon Okay, do you want to.
Speaker 1: Talk about Donna, David Brandon foul Noah? Which one you
Speaker 1: get to pick?
Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I guess. I mean, can I go at
Speaker 2: the storyline like the best or save that for last?
Speaker 2: I don't want to. Noah's rich. Let's go with this.
Speaker 2: No one rich?
Speaker 3: Okay, no one knew.
Speaker 1: We knew. Everybody the audience knew, right, audience were He's
Speaker 1: already talked about it. He's mentioned Hunter Oil, family Oil
Speaker 1: job be sure. Yeah, yeah, I remember hearing it because
Speaker 1: I was like, am I supposed to know what Hunter
Speaker 1: Oil is?
Speaker 3: But but they didn't know? Right?
Speaker 1: You know what, I'll be honest with you. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm really stepping out of my comfy zone. Noah kind
Speaker 1: of lotta in this episode. What can't help it? These
Speaker 1: guys they saw it? He did?
Speaker 3: He did?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, but the writing is just so what
Speaker 2: Noah says, keep your pan That's.
Speaker 1: My favorite line of the whole show. How do you know, hey,
Speaker 1: if someone knocks on the boat, is that what happens?
Speaker 1: They knock on the boat and he's coming to answer
Speaker 1: the door, and he says, keep your pants on. It's
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 2: I can't I mean, It's kind of funny because it's
Speaker 2: like a young guy in his twenties saying it. But
Speaker 2: it's so like, are you what?
Speaker 1: I know? I actually wrote it down as my favorite
Speaker 1: line in the whole Episodely it's good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be a good T shirt.
Speaker 1: But now he's off a valve and on to Donna. Yes,
Speaker 1: like zeroed in on it.
Speaker 2: Yes, And just like that, Donna's over David and onto him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a long relationship to be like next.
Speaker 2: Except in her defense, I could see like it being
Speaker 2: so much that she's distracted and she's not processing the
Speaker 2: grief of that relationship. She's just jumping into another world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happens.
Speaker 3: That's a rebound, right rebound.
Speaker 2: You're right, except this rebound will go on to last
Speaker 2: another two seasons.
Speaker 3: But huh so what huh?
Speaker 2: I think? So?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Yeah, two seasons.
Speaker 1: Of Donna and Noah.
Speaker 2: What you just said that? I know? I feel like
Speaker 2: they break up early in season ten, and David and
Speaker 2: Donna get back together and then they Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, you just blew my mind. But okay, I'm warming up, scoch.
Speaker 2: How about can we talk about Valerie slapping Noah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the slap Okay Valley Valley, Old Valley.
Speaker 1: She slapped Noah not once but twice.
Speaker 2: Right, So, if you haven't watched, we found out Noah's
Speaker 2: rich and everyone feels a little bamboozled by it that
Speaker 2: he like lied to everybody.
Speaker 1: Well did he lie or did he just not? Did
Speaker 1: he withhold the truth?
Speaker 2: Well, because Donna says, later, you said you were broke,
Speaker 2: but did he say? Maybe he just insinuated, And you're right,
Speaker 2: maybe he just but yeah, so the loan shark, card shark,
Speaker 2: what does he he's a shark shark?
Speaker 1: Nato, No, what do you mean? The loan the guy
Speaker 1: with the money?
Speaker 2: Right that disclosed that it was Noah right to vow
Speaker 2: right because she goes there all haughty toddy to get
Speaker 2: some info out of this guy.
Speaker 1: She went to the bartender Dan right and asked him,
Speaker 1: what's the guy? Who's the guy the loan shark? That's
Speaker 1: what you're thinking of, loan shark? And then she finds
Speaker 1: him somehow so easily and goes to show shows up
Speaker 1: with him, and she's all flirting it up, trying to
Speaker 1: get info out of him, and.
Speaker 2: She gets it, which always works for her.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't get expect to get that info. I
Speaker 1: don't think that was a shocker.
Speaker 2: I love how David's like, well house, would you find
Speaker 2: a loan shark? Not in the Yellow Pages? Because it
Speaker 2: was nineteen ninety seven?
Speaker 3: The Yellow Pages?
Speaker 1: Wait, do they even still?
Speaker 2: Do they make phone like a hard copy?
Speaker 1: No, like the remember the big like a hard copy?
Speaker 3: Like is there is not a hard copy soft pape like?
Speaker 2: But I mean like a hard copy, not like I
Speaker 2: mean in person.
Speaker 1: Yes, please tell us if you live in a town
Speaker 1: out there that still publishes phone books.
Speaker 2: I need to know publishes a good one. Remember as kids,
Speaker 2: you'd sit on it. It's like to get higher in
Speaker 2: a booth.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd your mom sit you on top of a
Speaker 1: stack of phone books.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I loved phone books, you guys. They were alphabetized so
Speaker 1: beautifully and like it, just like the symmetry of the columns. Loved.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Encyclopedia Britannicas. Do they publish those anymore? I
Speaker 2: used to love the Yellow Pages. When I was bored
Speaker 2: as a kid and learning to read, I would go
Speaker 2: through the Yellow Pages.
Speaker 1: You ever heard that expression when somebody is it good
Speaker 1: speaker or a or something? They say she or he
Speaker 1: could read the Yellow Pages and I'd still watch or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right, I could listen. Do you read
Speaker 2: the phone book? Yeah, that's a good one. Just like
Speaker 2: keep your pants on.
Speaker 1: It's right up there, your pants on.
Speaker 2: Okay. Can I go back to the slap? Yes?
Speaker 1: Please? What's the problem with the slap?
Speaker 2: Oh? No problem, but quite I enjoyed it. I loved it.
Speaker 2: So in acting, it's usually a choice, right if you
Speaker 2: do it or not, and the two actors kind of
Speaker 2: work it out because we've seen scenes where they pretend
Speaker 2: like back in the old days, and they're like, I
Speaker 2: pretend to be hit, but they're not really hit. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but this was so obviously Valerie and Noah Vincent and
Speaker 2: Tiffany disgusted it. And she was like, Okay, I'm going
Speaker 2: to really slap you, and he's like, yeah, go for it,
Speaker 2: and she really went for it, and you could see
Speaker 2: the red hand mark on his face through the rest
Speaker 2: of the scene.
Speaker 1: She liked to give real slap.
Speaker 2: I remember that she did. I remember, well, this is
Speaker 2: coming up to a different point where I have to
Speaker 2: slap her, and she was like, slap me, and I
Speaker 2: was like.
Speaker 1: Right, I remember I always up for the like nothing,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna slap you. Let's just do a fake
Speaker 1: slap and make it look good.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to slap someone I know, but it's.
Speaker 2: Kind of fun. That's true if they if someone asked
Speaker 2: you for it, please slap me. I mean. So she
Speaker 2: went in hard, but you could tell by the print
Speaker 2: on his face that she didn't quite get his cheek.
Speaker 2: She got like his jaw and his neck, which means
Speaker 2: probably his ears a little bit.
Speaker 3: So it's probably earbringing.
Speaker 1: Probably has ear damage from it to this day, so
Speaker 1: earing damage.
Speaker 2: I thought some of the best acting I've ever seen
Speaker 2: of him and will see of him is where he says,
Speaker 2: if you do that one more time, I'm gonna slap
Speaker 2: you back. Because I could see his eyes that he
Speaker 2: was really like, not that he would slap her back,
Speaker 2: but that he like was like that hurt do that
Speaker 2: one more time? It seemed real that he was like pissed, Like.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about Donna and Noah? First of all,
Speaker 1: what day is it? Because Donna's girls are out to
Speaker 1: play all day?
Speaker 2: That was the.
Speaker 1: Lowest cut shirt I think I've ever seen you wear,
Speaker 1: Like for a daily outfit, not like a Baba booie
Speaker 1: I'm dressing up for a peapad, but like I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wear this outfit today tonight.
Speaker 3: I wasn't happy with it.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so those v neckx were very in nineteen
Speaker 2: ninety seven, but probably not with that extreme like you know,
Speaker 2: I was wanting to push up bra there, like, well,
Speaker 2: I don't like boos don't wash together that tightly without
Speaker 2: an extreme push up bra.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I guess you're right.
Speaker 2: Like I was so tan, my hair was so red.
Speaker 1: Love loved the red. Too red, too red, you like
Speaker 1: like a siren.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'll take that.
Speaker 1: Then, firn red. I thought that, Yeah it was. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, it was distracting for me to watch
Speaker 1: the scenes and not just stare at your cleavage.
Speaker 3: Thank you?
Speaker 1: Was that what you were going for? And no, it
Speaker 1: was distracting.
Speaker 2: I respectfully agree. I just I don't know, it was
Speaker 2: all distracting. I wasn't. I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 2: I could totally tell that we have full rein of
Speaker 2: the castle here, and it's just like, I don't know,
Speaker 2: I felt like the makeup was too much. It all
Speaker 2: looked good, but it was like iron Now I missed
Speaker 2: the days when made me. We weren't as like tuned
Speaker 2: in and we kind of were more freeballing it and
Speaker 2: it felt more real. This is very like late nineties,
Speaker 2: like very stylized, like I felt like melrose Place a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But okay, so you have your storyline with Noah,
Speaker 1: which you go on the date, right, okay, so you
Speaker 1: had Noah and the kiss, and then you also had
Speaker 1: David inside watching.
Speaker 2: I felt bad for David.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was hard for me because I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: know David and Donna. Even though do you like Noah
Speaker 2: and Donna?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't answer to that is, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I only like it because I know you
Speaker 1: liked it, so it makes me try to like it,
Speaker 1: but I don't know. I know, honestly, I'm not even
Speaker 1: that big of a fan of Donna and David right now,
Speaker 1: right now, I mean, yeah, like old school, like you're
Speaker 1: invested from like kids. Yeah, and that's why I don't
Speaker 1: understand how she can just move on so quickly. But
Speaker 1: you're right, it's a distraction, it's that rebound. Hopefully it'll
Speaker 1: end up making you appreciate David. I don't know.
Speaker 2: It's interesting to me because when she's like flirty with David,
Speaker 2: it's hard. They were together in and out for so
Speaker 2: many years that when they first started being together, I
Speaker 2: don't think Donna knew how to use like sex appeal
Speaker 2: or that feminine charm. It was just honest, I think,
Speaker 2: which made the relationship so pure and beautiful. And I
Speaker 2: could see her flirting with Noah, but it's like a
Speaker 2: different tone that I haven't heard from Donna.
Speaker 1: Before because it's from toy.
Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm like, oh my gosh, it's so weird
Speaker 2: to watch it because I don't get to watch myself
Speaker 2: back in real life, and it's like, oh, that's when
Speaker 2: I'm trying to be sexy and be like look at
Speaker 2: me like and it's like, oh god, it's all happen
Speaker 2: in real time.
Speaker 1: People loved it. I'm sure. What about Okay, I'm still
Speaker 1: with the vow storyline. Well, she's just so conniving. I mean,
Speaker 1: we're doing every week. I feel like we talk about this.
Speaker 1: There is no there's no end to her conniving.
Speaker 2: I think she might be redeemable when she leaves. I'm
Speaker 2: not sure. I've seen clips on the gram.
Speaker 1: What do you think about the word conniving in general?
Speaker 1: What conniving? Is that a word? Am I saying it right?
Speaker 2: Yes? One thousand percent?
Speaker 1: How would you spell conniving?
Speaker 3: Co O N COO coniving co O n iv I
Speaker 3: n G conniving.
Speaker 1: Oh you did it right, Good job, But that doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like how you would spell it.
Speaker 2: I mean spelling, I have to at least have one quality.
Speaker 1: But here's the here's my question. Well, it was kind
Speaker 1: of like towards the end of the show when Valerie
Speaker 1: comes down the stairs in her satin matching negliges.
Speaker 3: Which are very in now.
Speaker 1: Is that what girls wore in the in the nineties
Speaker 1: to bed?
Speaker 3: Maybe?
Speaker 1: I really I didn't.
Speaker 2: We didn't. We had our like flannely pajamas with like
Speaker 2: poodles on them, sushi and.
Speaker 1: Lady, you know what I mean, poodles.
Speaker 2: I had a full line of those by longstlee button
Speaker 2: of like kind of like Grandpa pajamas Granny jammies, but flannel.
Speaker 3: But with like poppy things on them. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Every time I see somebody, like a young person
Speaker 1: on the show wearing like a matching set of satin,
Speaker 1: I can't really think that's real.
Speaker 2: No, no, but it's kind of very old school like Dynasty,
Speaker 2: like spelling esque.
Speaker 1: I did like her her look through the episode though,
Speaker 1: she looked great. Val you think, yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you feel like she looked more natural this episode?
Speaker 2: Likes not as much makeup.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really notice.
Speaker 2: Honestly, maybe Waterman was on vacation someone else, Dave Waterman
Speaker 2: was her makeup artist.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about David for a second, okay, because you
Speaker 1: know what he in this episode. I just felt like,
Speaker 1: you're such a young little son. You're like a little boy,
Speaker 1: like doing all the wrong things.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I was not into his hair, so why what was
Speaker 3: about it?
Speaker 2: The buzz cut?
Speaker 1: Was it overall buzz or did he have length on top?
Speaker 2: Pretty buzzed?
Speaker 1: I liked it.
Speaker 2: I did not like when he's his hair was very short.
Speaker 1: It's very doesn't that how Justin Bieber has his hair now?
Speaker 2: Though? Yeah, yeah, I like it. I guess Brian David
Speaker 2: he's never been a long haired type of guy. No,
Speaker 2: in any sense, right, Okay, I.
Speaker 1: Don't think I've ever seen him with long hair ever,
Speaker 1: but I'd like to maybe we can do like an
Speaker 1: AI version, just to see what he would look like, okay,
Speaker 1: that sounds good, accurate.
Speaker 2: Yes, he seems so lost and what's going to happen.
Speaker 2: This can't be good for his mental health. Everything that's happened.
Speaker 1: He's off the rails again.
Speaker 2: But not really, he's not. He's holding it together.
Speaker 1: He's just having bad luck.
Speaker 3: I guess.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Okay, So the heat or the fire, Okay.
Speaker 2: You knew it was coming right the second.
Speaker 1: He like plugged and turned on the ancient I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: come on. So he sets it down and there the
Speaker 1: close up of it at the end of the scene
Speaker 1: was like, there were wads of crumpled paper down there. Okay.
Speaker 1: The next shot of it in the later scene, the
Speaker 1: heater hasn't moved. The next shot has no wadded paper
Speaker 1: in front of it. And it really bothered me when
Speaker 1: he threw the shirt on top of the heater.
Speaker 3: These are the things she loves, you guys, the deeps,
Speaker 3: the deeps people.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was too invested in the storyline to notice that.
Speaker 2: That couldn't get through that one.
Speaker 1: That's I noticed the little things. But I mean, hi, dummy, Well,
Speaker 1: first of all, is it that cold in the office
Speaker 1: that he needs a space heater? Was it ever addressed. Hey,
Speaker 1: it's kind of chilly in here, and that's why I'm
Speaker 1: putting this space heater in.
Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. I mean, if we're going to say
Speaker 2: things like does Brandon like your hair cut? Just because
Speaker 2: you cut your hair one episode we say it's.
Speaker 1: Golden here to just it's really cool, this like major Let.
Speaker 2: Me put a heater up and plug it in.
Speaker 1: The complain about these things about the show that they
Speaker 1: just like explain too much, but now I want it.
Speaker 2: They explain things that we that shouldn't be explained, but
Speaker 2: things that should be explained they don't explain.
Speaker 1: There was no setup for it. It was like, oh okay,
Speaker 1: there's and the second you see it, you're like danger, danger,
Speaker 1: something bad's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow was it danger? Will Robinson I don't know
Speaker 2: lost his face?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I never really want a fan. Did you
Speaker 1: think the fire damage should have been more?
Speaker 2: I just don't see the reasoning for it, except like,
Speaker 2: oh no, luck, everything is going wrong. What does it
Speaker 2: matter the fire? What does it matter? Is something else
Speaker 2: canna happen?
Speaker 1: What? I thought? It was a much bigger fire in
Speaker 1: my memory?
Speaker 2: You remembered it?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 1: No, okay, no, but I go thinking about having a
Speaker 1: fire in the paapad makes me think it should have
Speaker 1: been more substantial, Like.
Speaker 2: You thought maybe someone was going to be caught in
Speaker 2: the fire or like, no, not that far, not like.
Speaker 3: Injured, but like trapped for a second, just for a second.
Speaker 1: No, I thought there would be more damage to the
Speaker 1: actual building because then the landlord comes out and comes
Speaker 1: and kicks him out. So I wanted it to be worse.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I guess, but then they'd have to
Speaker 2: like change sets and stuff, and they didn't want to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, costly, this is true. What do you think about
Speaker 1: when Valerie told David that it was Noah who paid
Speaker 1: his debt?
Speaker 2: What do I think about it? Why? What do you mean?
Speaker 1: Well, obviously that's something she would do, right, of course
Speaker 1: she's like push her a little bit and push right.
Speaker 2: And she's stirring in Donna, and yeah, do you mean,
Speaker 2: like what does she want from this? Like what is
Speaker 2: her what is the outcome? She doesn't want anything. She
Speaker 2: just lives to cause trouble, to push buttons. Yep, because
Speaker 2: she's not happy, so she wants nobody happy.
Speaker 1: I hope she gets happy.
Speaker 2: She leaves the show she's happy.
Speaker 1: Interesting concept. But let's talk about Brandon getting arrested show. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: So Eric is on her way out. She's going to
Speaker 1: go live with Dylan, right right?
Speaker 2: Which is that? Why did they set that up just
Speaker 2: to mention Dylan?
Speaker 1: Why is there ay in the relationship alive? Like it makes.
Speaker 2: Peoples can be back soon? He's gonna be back soon?
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I don't know why.
Speaker 2: This is the point in the program. We'd be like,
Speaker 2: Amy is Amy back soon?
Speaker 3: Amy? Amy?
Speaker 1: Amy's not here. By the way, we forgot to address that.
Speaker 2: Amy's working because she has a million jobs. Yes, this
Speaker 2: is just her side hustle you.
Speaker 1: Guys, my uncle. Huh. Okay, So back to Brandon. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when he goes into the assistant DA's office, he's so cocky.
Speaker 2: He's pretty cocky in this well, it gives.
Speaker 1: Him the right to sit there and be mister I
Speaker 1: know everything pants to the assistant DA, who begins to
Speaker 1: be a woman. Loved that, but also hated that the
Speaker 1: way she was he was speaking to her.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if I've ever truly seen Brandon vulnerable.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I know we have moments, but that's
Speaker 2: kind of the way he speaks for the most part,
Speaker 2: and I don't.
Speaker 1: What about okay, so when she failed for like five minutes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and who rush gets him out somehow?
Speaker 2: Wait, I like when you come and he says, we
Speaker 2: can't touch weird or something, and you guys sit all
Speaker 2: the way across the table from each other, and they
Speaker 2: took his belt in his right.
Speaker 1: Something he was watching in that scene was the security
Speaker 1: of the policeman's eyes in the in the background of
Speaker 1: Brandon shot, the policeman was like guarding them and his
Speaker 1: eyes kept going back and forth.
Speaker 2: All I was looking at into your hair and a
Speaker 2: good way. It really like it really allowed me it
Speaker 2: being the short to focus on your beautiful eyes. No,
Speaker 2: it was good, but I was happy.
Speaker 1: Well when he just gets out, when he when the
Speaker 1: veil is bailed, paid whatever, he comes out of the
Speaker 1: jail and he says, free at last, Free at last,
Speaker 1: And it made me angry.
Speaker 2: I can understand that.
Speaker 1: It really like made me shiver because my automatic thought
Speaker 1: in that moment was like white privilege. Honestly, like he
Speaker 1: was in jail for five minutes and then he quotes
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's also nineteen ninety seven, so it's also
Speaker 2: watching it today with the climate going on now, it
Speaker 2: really probably angered you.
Speaker 1: It like triggered me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand it made not like Brandon that sucked?
Speaker 2: Could you end up okay?
Speaker 1: But but there there's a plan in a big takedown
Speaker 1: of Rigs the pimp guy.
Speaker 2: But I don't even care.
Speaker 1: I know why what show is this? I felt like
Speaker 1: I was watching what was that shoe, Hill Street Blues
Speaker 1: or something?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: But what yes show?
Speaker 2: I think last week and he said, t J Hooker.
Speaker 2: But this week I was like, is it lawn or
Speaker 2: what is it? It's Hill Street, Hill Briggan Blues.
Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing that came to my brain when
Speaker 1: I was watching.
Speaker 2: It, mixed with a daytime soap opera.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a nighttime soap opera.
Speaker 2: No DATAI it is that, and then the like dramatic
Speaker 2: scenes with like the couples. It felt like the writing
Speaker 2: like a daytime soap opera in my opinion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brandon and Kelly's sitting in the back of
Speaker 1: the cop car.
Speaker 2: I just don't know. I wish somebody had said, hey,
Speaker 2: I feel like the show is changing and it's not
Speaker 2: doesn't represent.
Speaker 3: What it's the core about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone loves about the show. Let's bring it on
Speaker 2: back here, I jump. I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't know why it went on
Speaker 1: a different train track.
Speaker 2: We felt this way because in real life I remember
Speaker 2: because here's the thing. I mean, Jen and I stayed
Speaker 2: to that and we were in all ten seasons and
Speaker 2: we never gave up feeling like I remember having conversations you,
Speaker 2: me and Brian like, oh, the scene doesn't it's not flowing,
Speaker 2: it's not it isn't right. We knew it wasn't right,
Speaker 2: but we didn't. We know, we didn't. What could we do?
Speaker 1: How do we how do we switch the tracks back?
Speaker 2: I don't know. But we cared, like we really cared
Speaker 2: till the end. That makes me sad. That makes me
Speaker 2: really sad.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, we tried, We tried.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think at a certain point we got we got
Speaker 1: our back just in time for the ending.
Speaker 2: I felt like season ten, we were yeah, we'll get
Speaker 2: to that. Yep, we're right, we took it back.
Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, the only thing we have not discussed
Speaker 1: is Steve. Yeah, you go first.
Speaker 2: What was the scene where he.
Speaker 3: Zero Gill?
Speaker 1: Was it in the in the now no rights.
Speaker 2: Men have no rights.
Speaker 1: They were and he was his vein was popping like
Speaker 1: he was mad.
Speaker 2: This is the first time I would say this to us.
Speaker 2: I watched and I was like, I didn't like that performance.
Speaker 2: I was like, what I wish the director had said, you.
Speaker 1: Have a little more, just a scoche of empathy, think
Speaker 1: outside yourself for a second. But I guess that's the
Speaker 1: whole point is that he couldn't see outside himself in
Speaker 1: the in this right.
Speaker 2: I didn't mind the anger, but it didn't line up
Speaker 2: with the way it was zip zero zilch is not
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, dramatic line. It's it's making fun of maybe
Speaker 2: if he had said, like, can I say something else?
Speaker 2: But I want to be angry, Like I get the anger,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I didn't. I felt like it kind of
Speaker 1: was really making him a dick honestly, because yeah, because
Speaker 1: he offers to pay the baby Mama Jodie, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a month for if the baby is his,
Speaker 1: so the he can just pay for it and not
Speaker 1: have to be a dad.
Speaker 2: And she's like, well, legally if it is your child.
Speaker 2: Oh and this is where I'm sure this bothered you
Speaker 2: as well. He kept saying the kid, the kid, and
Speaker 2: she's like, if it's your child, you're legally responsible to
Speaker 2: pay monthly. So thanks for the opera, But.
Speaker 1: That's a that's a guy girl thing.
Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, my kid kid, Yeah, you're right. It
Speaker 2: bothered me though, just because I love him so much.
Speaker 1: I know we want to protect him. Yeah, but it's
Speaker 1: hard to in this this storyline because he's a real dick.
Speaker 2: He's a scared little boy, that's all.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But then you find out when he goes to
Speaker 1: talk to his dad about yea good advice about maybe
Speaker 1: you find out that his dad did the same thing.
Speaker 3: He's like, well then I came around like a few
Speaker 3: weeks later.
Speaker 1: But it's weird, how you know, history repeats itself in
Speaker 1: the family, whether you.
Speaker 3: Know it or not.
Speaker 1: Let me acknowledge it, see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's lenian to just keep ingreened in our DNA.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Carly saying I'm here for
Speaker 1: you the whole time? Always like supporting him being someone
Speaker 1: else's baby daddy? Realistic? Not realistic?
Speaker 2: I mean realistic would be you and I wing in
Speaker 2: if we were in that situation, what would we.
Speaker 1: Feel I guess it kind of made me like her
Speaker 1: more because being that she is a mom and a
Speaker 1: good mom, she would want that for her child, right,
Speaker 1: so it kind of made me like her more.
Speaker 2: Yes, all I could think of when I was watching though,
Speaker 2: I thought she looked great, and I was like, gosh,
Speaker 2: I just they have no chemistry.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like it's from his.
Speaker 2: Side, so I think he didn't feel like he had
Speaker 2: chemistry with the character.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel it at all, And.
Speaker 2: I think I wonder if that had any like, do
Speaker 2: you think he expressed himself to the producers do you
Speaker 2: think that had any play in them being like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we don't feel it either.
Speaker 1: I mean that happens. We saw that happen with Kelly.
Speaker 2: Right with Dalton James. You didn't have chemistry. It's very
Speaker 2: important that their key characters have chemistry with the people
Speaker 2: they're bringing on. So if Ian felt like he and
Speaker 2: Hillary didn't have chemistry, that's a.
Speaker 1: Big problem, big problem.
Speaker 2: Should we ask him?
Speaker 1: We should? We can't because he's in France right now. Yes,
Speaker 1: Stars France from Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: Ro I saw on Instagram where he was. He had
Speaker 2: like because they have different teams compete different weeks, so
Speaker 2: he must have had a little time off or something,
Speaker 2: because he was popping home to see his girls and
Speaker 2: his girlfriend and I was like, oh my gosh, it's
Speaker 2: so tiring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a long trip for like two days down.
Speaker 2: Good for him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, takes a lot of effort. Yeah, keep the family
Speaker 1: together in the Yeah. Well that's all I have to
Speaker 1: say about this episode. What do you give it?
Speaker 2: If there had been something ABCD, even an e storyline
Speaker 2: that felt reminiscent of nine or two and zer, I
Speaker 2: would be okay. But it was really tough getting through
Speaker 2: this episode. I feel like it's I don't know, I
Speaker 2: give it. I'm gonna go We're gonna give it last
Speaker 2: week at four or that's what I was thinking for
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Yeah, it's getting worse for me. And just
Speaker 2: because now every episode's this way and it's like.
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I don't feel emotionally connected to the characters
Speaker 1: the way I did.
Speaker 2: No, because they're not really them anymore. That's important like
Speaker 2: somebody else's device.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I hope it gets better. Does it
Speaker 1: get better? You guys? Is it going to get better?
Speaker 1: Like back to the show, we loved. Yes, yes, right, we.
Speaker 2: Have two and a half more seasons.
Speaker 1: It'll get better, you guys, it will get better. There
Speaker 1: is hope.
Speaker 2: Is Jason leaving right after this is the sin?
Speaker 1: I think he's there for a couple in the beginning
Speaker 1: of nine?
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, well maybe nine?
Speaker 3: Is that true?
Speaker 1: We're only in episode eleven. How many episodes were in
Speaker 1: season eight? I wonder was it like thirty.
Speaker 2: Three thirty four because thirty two.
Speaker 1: Thirty two close? But yes, he does come back for
Speaker 1: a couple of episodes in the beginning of nine, so
Speaker 1: we have him for the rest of the season, Thank goodness.
Speaker 2: So he leaves the beginning of nine and Dylan comes back.
Speaker 2: Greene says episode eight, I like that idea. Oh no,
Speaker 2: so they're not even on at the same time.
Speaker 1: Rough, rough, but at least have one or the other.
Speaker 2: I'll take that.
Speaker 3: I'll pay.
Speaker 1: We gave it low scores, but hopefully next week.
Speaker 3: What do you think Amy would have given it?
Speaker 1: Amy would have given it higher? No, she would have
Speaker 1: given it a five.
Speaker 3: No chance, I want to ask you next week.
Speaker 2: No, because she's such a hardcore fan that she'll be
Speaker 2: like I hated it, but I loved it. Anyway, I
Speaker 2: still love it.
Speaker 1: It sure. Next week, y'all, we have episode twelve of
Speaker 1: season eight. It's called Friends in Deed d e E
Speaker 1: d Indeed like the Deed of the peach Pit perhaps.
Speaker 2: Which I don't like because we know it's now it's
Speaker 2: gonna be Hill Street Blues and Law and Order order
Speaker 2: again because they're talking about a deed.
Speaker 1: But Noah's taking over the peach Pit after dark?
Speaker 2: Right, oh right, right? Right?
Speaker 1: Shall we find out? I say we shall.
Speaker 2: We have no choice. We're going to find out. Well,
Speaker 2: we're in this for the long run, like a like
Speaker 2: a life.
Speaker 1: Fels possible way. So yeah, it's gonna get better.
Speaker 2: You guys, we promise.
Speaker 1: We love you.
Speaker 3: Thanks,