1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: It's nine Ogene Onegen with Jenny Garth and Tory spelling. 2 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: This is so exciting. 3 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: What's so exciting? 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 3: I don't know. 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: I'm just trying to I don't know. I was trying 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: to pretend. 7 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 8 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 2: I was like I wanted to be like, oh, I 9 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 2: don't know about this, but then I was like, no, 10 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 2: we can start that way. But oh, guys, I don't 11 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 2: know about this. 12 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: I don't know about this hair. I was like, what 13 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: the hair? 14 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: I didn't realize it got shorter again. I thought we 15 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 2: were on that grow. 16 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,480 Speaker 1: I really thought we were growing it out. 17 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 2: Ye see. 18 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: And by this point you've already told me that I 19 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: had so mom soccer mom hair, So why would I 20 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: then push it further? 21 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 2: Well, now you're just being defiant. 22 00:00:47,760 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: I don't like being told to do Apparently. 23 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: We know that. Oh my goodness, it's so short. See. 24 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: I like this short, though, you do. 25 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 3: This is the cool short, Okay, I believe so. 26 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: I'm not sure about the color. 27 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 1: But what about the highlights. 28 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 2: I like the highlights, which nowadays the kids call them 29 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: the money pieces. You were so ahead of your time. 30 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 3: Look at this, we. 31 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 2: Were and you had money pieces. Why is the backwarm? 32 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: I don't know, I couldn't see that part. 33 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: You were just looking at highlights. Yeah, yeah, it's a 34 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,399 Speaker 2: little warm. It needs a little toner. 35 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: We got hair to talk about. To talk about. This 36 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: is episode eleven. It's called Deadline and aired. It aired 37 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: in November nineteen ninety seven. November nineteenth to be exact. 38 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: Synopsis. Just when you think David's luck is turning, OMG, 39 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: the peapad is burning, Eric is pimp gets arrested, Steve's 40 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 2: DNA gets tested, Donna kicks David to the curb. Kelly's 41 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: pixie cut is superb. Battery's being a total witch. Nobody 42 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: told her Noah was rich. 43 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Love the rhymes so good. 44 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: It's way better than the episode we just ended there. 45 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: Yep, we'll talk to you next week. 46 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: Guys imagine. 47 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, where to begin? 48 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 2: Okay, where should we begin? I don't know at the beginning? 49 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 2: With your haircut, it's the first line of the episode. 50 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: You know what I felt like, I felt like she 51 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: belonged in like New Kids on the Block or a 52 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: boy bands that haircut? Like, yeah, me, her? 53 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 2: Why is she a she? Now? She hurt you? 54 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: Kelly is not me, she's her, She's you. She's a she. 55 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,399 Speaker 2: Totally you, part of you, a part of you can 56 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: never get rid of. Never, it's not. 57 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: But did you not like, did she not look like Lance? 58 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: Bast to you? I did again? 59 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: Sorry, Oh my god, that just heard hers. Oh no, 60 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 2: I don't know, Adam. I can't win this one. I 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 2: love Lance's hair, but not on Kelly. No, stop trying 62 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 2: to ruin it. I thought it looked really good. 63 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: You are great. 64 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 2: But you know what, So my dad had this thing 65 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 2: I think we've talked about this before where anytime hair 66 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: was altered on the show usually had to get permission, 67 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: probably not eight season. I'm sure you didn't have to, 68 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 2: but they had to write it in the script. Oh right, right, 69 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 2: So it's like the opening of the show. It just 70 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: feels so like I'm like, oh yeah, my dad was like, 71 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 2: make sure they know her hair is different? 72 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: Can't they tell? 73 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 2: I wonder why that bugged him so much? Though? Who's 74 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 2: that a thing that bugged him? But not this episode? 75 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: The first line is Erica saying, does Brandon like your 76 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 1: new haircut? 77 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: Imagine if you like just kept walking but you had 78 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: that look in your face. 79 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: Like, who cares? That's so true? 80 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: Who's Brandon Okay, do you want to. 81 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: Talk about Donna, David Brandon foul Noah? Which one you 82 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: get to pick? 83 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I guess. I mean, can I go at 84 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 2: the storyline like the best or save that for last? 85 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: I don't want to. Noah's rich. Let's go with this. 86 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: No one rich? 87 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 3: Okay, no one knew. 88 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: We knew. Everybody the audience knew, right, audience were He's 89 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: already talked about it. He's mentioned Hunter Oil, family Oil 90 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: job be sure. Yeah, yeah, I remember hearing it because 91 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 1: I was like, am I supposed to know what Hunter 92 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: Oil is? 93 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 3: But but they didn't know? Right? 94 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: You know what, I'll be honest with you. Yeah, you know, 95 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 1: I'm really stepping out of my comfy zone. Noah kind 96 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: of lotta in this episode. What can't help it? These 97 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: guys they saw it? He did? 98 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 3: He did? 99 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, but the writing is just so what 100 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 2: Noah says, keep your pan That's. 101 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: My favorite line of the whole show. How do you know, hey, 102 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: if someone knocks on the boat, is that what happens? 103 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: They knock on the boat and he's coming to answer 104 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 1: the door, and he says, keep your pants on. It's 105 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: so good. 106 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: I can't I mean, It's kind of funny because it's 107 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 2: like a young guy in his twenties saying it. But 108 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:18,799 Speaker 2: it's so like, are you what? 109 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: I know? I actually wrote it down as my favorite 110 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: line in the whole Episodely it's good. 111 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be a good T shirt. 112 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: But now he's off a valve and on to Donna. Yes, 113 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: like zeroed in on it. 114 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 2: Yes, And just like that, Donna's over David and onto him. 115 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a that's a long relationship to be like next. 116 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: Except in her defense, I could see like it being 117 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 2: so much that she's distracted and she's not processing the 118 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: grief of that relationship. She's just jumping into another world. 119 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what happens. 120 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 3: That's a rebound, right rebound. 121 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 2: You're right, except this rebound will go on to last 122 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 2: another two seasons. 123 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 3: But huh so what huh? 124 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: I think? So? 125 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: No? 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, two seasons. 127 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 1: Of Donna and Noah. 128 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: What you just said that? I know? I feel like 129 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: they break up early in season ten, and David and 130 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: Donna get back together and then they Wow. 131 00:06:20,760 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: Okay, you just blew my mind. But okay, I'm warming up, scoch. 132 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: How about can we talk about Valerie slapping Noah? 133 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like the slap Okay Valley Valley, Old Valley. 134 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: She slapped Noah not once but twice. 135 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,119 Speaker 2: Right, So, if you haven't watched, we found out Noah's 136 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: rich and everyone feels a little bamboozled by it that 137 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 2: he like lied to everybody. 138 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: Well did he lie or did he just not? Did 139 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: he withhold the truth? 140 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 2: Well, because Donna says, later, you said you were broke, 141 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,840 Speaker 2: but did he say? Maybe he just insinuated, And you're right, 142 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 2: maybe he just but yeah, so the loan shark, card shark, 143 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: what does he he's a shark shark? 144 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Nato, No, what do you mean? The loan the guy 145 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: with the money? 146 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 2: Right that disclosed that it was Noah right to vow 147 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 2: right because she goes there all haughty toddy to get 148 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 2: some info out of this guy. 149 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: She went to the bartender Dan right and asked him, 150 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: what's the guy? Who's the guy the loan shark? That's 151 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: what you're thinking of, loan shark? And then she finds 152 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: him somehow so easily and goes to show shows up 153 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 1: with him, and she's all flirting it up, trying to 154 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: get info out of him, and. 155 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: She gets it, which always works for her. 156 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, she didn't get expect to get that info. I 157 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: don't think that was a shocker. 158 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: I love how David's like, well house, would you find 159 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 2: a loan shark? Not in the Yellow Pages? Because it 160 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 2: was nineteen ninety seven? 161 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 3: The Yellow Pages? 162 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Wait, do they even still? 163 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 2: Do they make phone like a hard copy? 164 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: No, like the remember the big like a hard copy? 165 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: Like is there is not a hard copy soft pape like? 166 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: But I mean like a hard copy, not like I 167 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 2: mean in person. 168 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: Yes, please tell us if you live in a town 169 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: out there that still publishes phone books. 170 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: I need to know publishes a good one. Remember as kids, 171 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 2: you'd sit on it. It's like to get higher in 172 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 2: a booth. 173 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'd your mom sit you on top of a 174 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 1: stack of phone books. 175 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 176 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: I loved phone books, you guys. They were alphabetized so 177 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: beautifully and like it, just like the symmetry of the columns. Loved. 178 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:48,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that Encyclopedia Britannicas. Do they publish those anymore? I 179 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 2: used to love the Yellow Pages. When I was bored 180 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 2: as a kid and learning to read, I would go 181 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: through the Yellow Pages. 182 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: You ever heard that expression when somebody is it good 183 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: speaker or a or something? They say she or he 184 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: could read the Yellow Pages and I'd still watch or 185 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 1: something like that. 186 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right, I could listen. Do you read 187 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 2: the phone book? Yeah, that's a good one. Just like 188 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: keep your pants on. 189 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,719 Speaker 1: It's right up there, your pants on. 190 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: Okay. Can I go back to the slap? Yes? 191 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: Please? What's the problem with the slap? 192 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 2: Oh? No problem, but quite I enjoyed it. I loved it. 193 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 2: So in acting, it's usually a choice, right if you 194 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 2: do it or not, and the two actors kind of 195 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: work it out because we've seen scenes where they pretend 196 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: like back in the old days, and they're like, I 197 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: pretend to be hit, but they're not really hit. Yeah, 198 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: but this was so obviously Valerie and Noah Vincent and 199 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: Tiffany disgusted it. And she was like, Okay, I'm going 200 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 2: to really slap you, and he's like, yeah, go for it, 201 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: and she really went for it, and you could see 202 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: the red hand mark on his face through the rest 203 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:58,240 Speaker 2: of the scene. 204 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: She liked to give real slap. 205 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: I remember that she did. I remember, well, this is 206 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: coming up to a different point where I have to 207 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: slap her, and she was like, slap me, and I 208 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 2: was like. 209 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: Right, I remember I always up for the like nothing, 210 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna slap you. Let's just do a fake 211 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: slap and make it look good. 212 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, I don't. 213 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: I don't want to slap someone I know, but it's. 214 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:25,680 Speaker 2: Kind of fun. That's true if they if someone asked 215 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 2: you for it, please slap me. I mean. So she 216 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 2: went in hard, but you could tell by the print 217 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,840 Speaker 2: on his face that she didn't quite get his cheek. 218 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: She got like his jaw and his neck, which means 219 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 2: probably his ears a little bit. 220 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 3: So it's probably earbringing. 221 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: Probably has ear damage from it to this day, so 222 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: earing damage. 223 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: I thought some of the best acting I've ever seen 224 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 2: of him and will see of him is where he says, 225 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: if you do that one more time, I'm gonna slap 226 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: you back. Because I could see his eyes that he 227 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 2: was really like, not that he would slap her back, 228 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 2: but that he like was like that hurt do that 229 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: one more time? It seemed real that he was like pissed, Like. 230 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 1: Can we talk about Donna and Noah? First of all, 231 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: what day is it? Because Donna's girls are out to 232 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: play all day? 233 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 2: That was the. 234 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: Lowest cut shirt I think I've ever seen you wear, 235 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: Like for a daily outfit, not like a Baba booie 236 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm dressing up for a peapad, but like I'm gonna 237 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 1: wear this outfit today tonight. 238 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: I wasn't happy with it. 239 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, so those v neckx were very in nineteen 240 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 2: ninety seven, but probably not with that extreme like you know, 241 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 2: I was wanting to push up bra there, like, well, 242 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: I don't like boos don't wash together that tightly without 243 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: an extreme push up bra. 244 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I guess you're right. 245 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:04,559 Speaker 2: Like I was so tan, my hair was so red. 246 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: Love loved the red. Too red, too red, you like 247 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: like a siren. 248 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: Oh okay, I'll take that. 249 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: Then, firn red. I thought that, Yeah it was. I'm 250 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: gonna be honest, it was distracting for me to watch 251 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: the scenes and not just stare at your cleavage. 252 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 3: Thank you? 253 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: Was that what you were going for? And no, it 254 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: was distracting. 255 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: I respectfully agree. I just I don't know, it was 256 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 2: all distracting. I wasn't. I don't know. I feel like 257 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 2: I could totally tell that we have full rein of 258 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 2: the castle here, and it's just like, I don't know, 259 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 2: I felt like the makeup was too much. It all 260 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: looked good, but it was like iron Now I missed 261 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 2: the days when made me. We weren't as like tuned 262 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 2: in and we kind of were more freeballing it and 263 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 2: it felt more real. This is very like late nineties, 264 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: like very stylized, like I felt like melrose Place a 265 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 2: little bit. 266 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. But okay, so you have your storyline with Noah, 267 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: which you go on the date, right, okay, so you 268 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: had Noah and the kiss, and then you also had 269 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: David inside watching. 270 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: I felt bad for David. 271 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 3: I don't know. 272 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 2: It was hard for me because I'm like, I don't 273 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 2: know David and Donna. Even though do you like Noah 274 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 2: and Donna? 275 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:36,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't answer to that is, I 276 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I only like it because I know you 277 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 1: liked it, so it makes me try to like it, 278 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: but I don't know. I know, honestly, I'm not even 279 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 1: that big of a fan of Donna and David right now, 280 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: right now, I mean, yeah, like old school, like you're 281 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: invested from like kids. Yeah, and that's why I don't 282 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: understand how she can just move on so quickly. But 283 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: you're right, it's a distraction, it's that rebound. Hopefully it'll 284 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 1: end up making you appreciate David. I don't know. 285 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 2: It's interesting to me because when she's like flirty with David, 286 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 2: it's hard. They were together in and out for so 287 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 2: many years that when they first started being together, I 288 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: don't think Donna knew how to use like sex appeal 289 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 2: or that feminine charm. It was just honest, I think, 290 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: which made the relationship so pure and beautiful. And I 291 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 2: could see her flirting with Noah, but it's like a 292 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 2: different tone that I haven't heard from Donna. 293 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: Before because it's from toy. 294 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: Yes, And I'm like, oh my gosh, it's so weird 295 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: to watch it because I don't get to watch myself 296 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 2: back in real life, and it's like, oh, that's when 297 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: I'm trying to be sexy and be like look at 298 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 2: me like and it's like, oh god, it's all happen 299 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: in real time. 300 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: People loved it. I'm sure. What about Okay, I'm still 301 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: with the vow storyline. Well, she's just so conniving. I mean, 302 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: we're doing every week. I feel like we talk about this. 303 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: There is no there's no end to her conniving. 304 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: I think she might be redeemable when she leaves. I'm 305 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: not sure. I've seen clips on the gram. 306 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: What do you think about the word conniving in general? 307 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: What conniving? Is that a word? Am I saying it right? 308 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: Yes? One thousand percent? 309 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: How would you spell conniving? 310 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: Co O N COO coniving co O n iv I 311 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 3: n G conniving. 312 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: Oh you did it right, Good job, But that doesn't 313 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: sound like how you would spell it. 314 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: I mean spelling, I have to at least have one quality. 315 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: But here's the here's my question. Well, it was kind 316 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: of like towards the end of the show when Valerie 317 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: comes down the stairs in her satin matching negliges. 318 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:12,240 Speaker 3: Which are very in now. 319 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: Is that what girls wore in the in the nineties 320 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: to bed? 321 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: Maybe? 322 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,240 Speaker 1: I really I didn't. 323 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: We didn't. We had our like flannely pajamas with like 324 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: poodles on them, sushi and. 325 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:31,239 Speaker 1: Lady, you know what I mean, poodles. 326 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: I had a full line of those by longstlee button 327 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: of like kind of like Grandpa pajamas Granny jammies, but flannel. 328 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: But with like poppy things on them. Yeah. 329 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. Every time I see somebody, like a young person 330 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: on the show wearing like a matching set of satin, 331 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: I can't really think that's real. 332 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: No, no, but it's kind of very old school like Dynasty, 333 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 2: like spelling esque. 334 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: I did like her her look through the episode though, 335 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: she looked great. Val you think, yeah. 336 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 2: Do you feel like she looked more natural this episode? 337 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: Likes not as much makeup. 338 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't really notice. 339 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: Honestly, maybe Waterman was on vacation someone else, Dave Waterman 340 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:32,400 Speaker 2: was her makeup artist. 341 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: Let's talk about David for a second, okay, because you 342 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: know what he in this episode. I just felt like, 343 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 1: you're such a young little son. You're like a little boy, 344 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: like doing all the wrong things. 345 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 2: You know. 346 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 3: I was not into his hair, so why what was 347 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 3: about it? 348 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 2: The buzz cut? 349 00:17:57,480 --> 00:18:00,240 Speaker 1: Was it overall buzz or did he have length on top? 350 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: Pretty buzzed? 351 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 1: I liked it. 352 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: I did not like when he's his hair was very short. 353 00:18:07,880 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: It's very doesn't that how Justin Bieber has his hair now? 354 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 2: Though? Yeah, yeah, I like it. I guess Brian David 355 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 2: he's never been a long haired type of guy. No, 356 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: in any sense, right, Okay, I. 357 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: Don't think I've ever seen him with long hair ever, 358 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: but I'd like to maybe we can do like an 359 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 1: AI version, just to see what he would look like, okay, 360 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: that sounds good, accurate. 361 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 2: Yes, he seems so lost and what's going to happen. 362 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 2: This can't be good for his mental health. Everything that's happened. 363 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: He's off the rails again. 364 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 2: But not really, he's not. He's holding it together. 365 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:45,720 Speaker 1: He's just having bad luck. 366 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 3: I guess. 367 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah. 368 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 1: Okay, So the heat or the fire, Okay. 369 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 2: You knew it was coming right the second. 370 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: He like plugged and turned on the ancient I'm like, okay, 371 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: come on. So he sets it down and there the 372 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 1: close up of it at the end of the scene 373 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,880 Speaker 1: was like, there were wads of crumpled paper down there. Okay. 374 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: The next shot of it in the later scene, the 375 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: heater hasn't moved. The next shot has no wadded paper 376 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 1: in front of it. And it really bothered me when 377 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: he threw the shirt on top of the heater. 378 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 3: These are the things she loves, you guys, the deeps, 379 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: the deeps people. 380 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: Yeah. 381 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 3: I was too invested in the storyline to notice that. 382 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: That couldn't get through that one. 383 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: That's I noticed the little things. But I mean, hi, dummy, Well, 384 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: first of all, is it that cold in the office 385 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: that he needs a space heater? Was it ever addressed. Hey, 386 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of chilly in here, and that's why I'm 387 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: putting this space heater in. 388 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 2: No, he doesn't. I mean, if we're going to say 389 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 2: things like does Brandon like your hair cut? Just because 390 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 2: you cut your hair one episode we say it's. 391 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: Golden here to just it's really cool, this like major Let. 392 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: Me put a heater up and plug it in. 393 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: The complain about these things about the show that they 394 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,479 Speaker 1: just like explain too much, but now I want it. 395 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: They explain things that we that shouldn't be explained, but 396 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 2: things that should be explained they don't explain. 397 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: There was no setup for it. It was like, oh okay, 398 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: there's and the second you see it, you're like danger, danger, 399 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 1: something bad's gonna happen. 400 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:34,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, wow was it danger? Will Robinson I don't know 401 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 2: lost his face? 402 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I never really want a fan. Did you 403 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,160 Speaker 1: think the fire damage should have been more? 404 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: I just don't see the reasoning for it, except like, 405 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 2: oh no, luck, everything is going wrong. What does it 406 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 2: matter the fire? What does it matter? Is something else 407 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: canna happen? 408 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: What? I thought? It was a much bigger fire in 409 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: my memory? 410 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:01,719 Speaker 2: You remembered it? 411 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:02,640 Speaker 3: Well? 412 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: No, okay, no, but I go thinking about having a 413 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,919 Speaker 1: fire in the paapad makes me think it should have 414 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: been more substantial, Like. 415 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,679 Speaker 2: You thought maybe someone was going to be caught in 416 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,960 Speaker 2: the fire or like, no, not that far, not like. 417 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: Injured, but like trapped for a second, just for a second. 418 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: No, I thought there would be more damage to the 419 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: actual building because then the landlord comes out and comes 420 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: and kicks him out. So I wanted it to be worse. 421 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,919 Speaker 2: Okay, you know, I guess, but then they'd have to 422 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 2: like change sets and stuff, and they didn't want to 423 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: do that. 424 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, costly, this is true. What do you think about 425 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: when Valerie told David that it was Noah who paid 426 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: his debt? 427 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 2: What do I think about it? Why? What do you mean? 428 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,919 Speaker 1: Well, obviously that's something she would do, right, of course 429 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: she's like push her a little bit and push right. 430 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: And she's stirring in Donna, and yeah, do you mean, 431 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: like what does she want from this? Like what is 432 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: her what is the outcome? She doesn't want anything. She 433 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 2: just lives to cause trouble, to push buttons. Yep, because 434 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 2: she's not happy, so she wants nobody happy. 435 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: I hope she gets happy. 436 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:19,359 Speaker 2: She leaves the show she's happy. 437 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 1: Interesting concept. But let's talk about Brandon getting arrested show. Okay, okay, 438 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: So Eric is on her way out. She's going to 439 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: go live with Dylan, right right? 440 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 2: Which is that? Why did they set that up just 441 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: to mention Dylan? 442 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: Why is there ay in the relationship alive? Like it makes. 443 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:51,200 Speaker 2: Peoples can be back soon? He's gonna be back soon? 444 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: Yes, okay, I don't know why. 445 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 2: This is the point in the program. We'd be like, 446 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 2: Amy is Amy back soon? 447 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 3: Amy? Amy? 448 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 1: Amy's not here. By the way, we forgot to address that. 449 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 2: Amy's working because she has a million jobs. Yes, this 450 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 2: is just her side hustle you. 451 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: Guys, my uncle. Huh. Okay, So back to Brandon. Yeah, 452 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: when he goes into the assistant DA's office, he's so cocky. 453 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 2: He's pretty cocky in this well, it gives. 454 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: Him the right to sit there and be mister I 455 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: know everything pants to the assistant DA, who begins to 456 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: be a woman. Loved that, but also hated that the 457 00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: way she was he was speaking to her. 458 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:39,679 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think if I've ever truly seen Brandon vulnerable. 459 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:43,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. I know we have moments, but that's 460 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 2: kind of the way he speaks for the most part, 461 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 2: and I don't. 462 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: What about okay, so when she failed for like five minutes, yeah, 463 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: and who rush gets him out somehow? 464 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,679 Speaker 2: Wait, I like when you come and he says, we 465 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: can't touch weird or something, and you guys sit all 466 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 2: the way across the table from each other, and they 467 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: took his belt in his right. 468 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 1: Something he was watching in that scene was the security 469 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: of the policeman's eyes in the in the background of 470 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: Brandon shot, the policeman was like guarding them and his 471 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: eyes kept going back and forth. 472 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: All I was looking at into your hair and a 473 00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 2: good way. It really like it really allowed me it 474 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 2: being the short to focus on your beautiful eyes. No, 475 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 2: it was good, but I was happy. 476 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 1: Well when he just gets out, when he when the 477 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: veil is bailed, paid whatever, he comes out of the 478 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: jail and he says, free at last, Free at last, 479 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: And it made me angry. 480 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 2: I can understand that. 481 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: It really like made me shiver because my automatic thought 482 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: in that moment was like white privilege. Honestly, like he 483 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: was in jail for five minutes and then he quotes 484 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: Martin Luther King. 485 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: I mean, it's also nineteen ninety seven, so it's also 486 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: watching it today with the climate going on now, it 487 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 2: really probably angered you. 488 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 1: It like triggered me. 489 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand it made not like Brandon that sucked? 490 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: Could you end up okay? 491 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 1: But but there there's a plan in a big takedown 492 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 1: of Rigs the pimp guy. 493 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: But I don't even care. 494 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 1: I know why what show is this? I felt like 495 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 1: I was watching what was that shoe, Hill Street Blues 496 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: or something? 497 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: Right? 498 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 3: But what yes show? 499 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 2: I think last week and he said, t J Hooker. 500 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 2: But this week I was like, is it lawn or 501 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 2: what is it? It's Hill Street, Hill Briggan Blues. 502 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,399 Speaker 1: It's an amazing thing that came to my brain when 503 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: I was watching. 504 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: It, mixed with a daytime soap opera. 505 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, a nighttime soap opera. 506 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: No DATAI it is that, and then the like dramatic 507 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 2: scenes with like the couples. It felt like the writing 508 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 2: like a daytime soap opera in my opinion. 509 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Brandon and Kelly's sitting in the back of 510 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: the cop car. 511 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: I just don't know. I wish somebody had said, hey, 512 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 2: I feel like the show is changing and it's not 513 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: doesn't represent. 514 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,439 Speaker 3: What it's the core about it. 515 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, everyone loves about the show. Let's bring it on 516 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 2: back here, I jump. I don't understand. 517 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: I don't either. I don't know why it went on 518 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: a different train track. 519 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: We felt this way because in real life I remember 520 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 2: because here's the thing. I mean, Jen and I stayed 521 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 2: to that and we were in all ten seasons and 522 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 2: we never gave up feeling like I remember having conversations you, 523 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,960 Speaker 2: me and Brian like, oh, the scene doesn't it's not flowing, 524 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 2: it's not it isn't right. We knew it wasn't right, 525 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 2: but we didn't. We know, we didn't. What could we do? 526 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: How do we how do we switch the tracks back? 527 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 2: I don't know. But we cared, like we really cared 528 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 2: till the end. That makes me sad. That makes me 529 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 2: really sad. 530 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, we tried, We tried. 531 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 532 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 1: I think at a certain point we got we got 533 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: our back just in time for the ending. 534 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: I felt like season ten, we were yeah, we'll get 535 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 2: to that. Yep, we're right, we took it back. 536 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So yeah, the only thing we have not discussed 537 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: is Steve. Yeah, you go first. 538 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 2: What was the scene where he. 539 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 3: Zero Gill? 540 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: Was it in the in the now no rights. 541 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 2: Men have no rights. 542 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: They were and he was his vein was popping like 543 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: he was mad. 544 00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: This is the first time I would say this to us. 545 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 2: I watched and I was like, I didn't like that performance. 546 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 2: I was like, what I wish the director had said, you. 547 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: Have a little more, just a scoche of empathy, think 548 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: outside yourself for a second. But I guess that's the 549 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: whole point is that he couldn't see outside himself in 550 00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 1: the in this right. 551 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,840 Speaker 2: I didn't mind the anger, but it didn't line up 552 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 2: with the way it was zip zero zilch is not 553 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, dramatic line. It's it's making fun of maybe 554 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 2: if he had said, like, can I say something else? 555 00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 2: But I want to be angry, Like I get the anger, 556 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: of course. 557 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, well I didn't. I felt like it kind of 558 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: was really making him a dick honestly, because yeah, because 559 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: he offers to pay the baby Mama Jodie, right, Yeah, 560 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 1: one thousand dollars a month for if the baby is his, 561 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: so the he can just pay for it and not 562 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: have to be a dad. 563 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 2: And she's like, well, legally if it is your child. 564 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 2: Oh and this is where I'm sure this bothered you 565 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 2: as well. He kept saying the kid, the kid, and 566 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: she's like, if it's your child, you're legally responsible to 567 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 2: pay monthly. So thanks for the opera, But. 568 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: That's a that's a guy girl thing. 569 00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 2: I don't Yeah, my kid kid, Yeah, you're right. It 570 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: bothered me though, just because I love him so much. 571 00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: I know we want to protect him. Yeah, but it's 572 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 1: hard to in this this storyline because he's a real dick. 573 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 2: He's a scared little boy, that's all. 574 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, But then you find out when he goes to 575 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: talk to his dad about yea good advice about maybe 576 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: you find out that his dad did the same thing. 577 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: He's like, well then I came around like a few 578 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 3: weeks later. 579 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: But it's weird, how you know, history repeats itself in 580 00:29:58,240 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 1: the family, whether you. 581 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 3: Know it or not. 582 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 1: Let me acknowledge it, see it. 583 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's lenian to just keep ingreened in our DNA. 584 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 1: How do you feel about Carly saying I'm here for 585 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: you the whole time? Always like supporting him being someone 586 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: else's baby daddy? Realistic? Not realistic? 587 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 2: I mean realistic would be you and I wing in 588 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 2: if we were in that situation, what would we. 589 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: Feel I guess it kind of made me like her 590 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: more because being that she is a mom and a 591 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: good mom, she would want that for her child, right, 592 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: so it kind of made me like her more. 593 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 2: Yes, all I could think of when I was watching though, 594 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 2: I thought she looked great, and I was like, gosh, 595 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: I just they have no chemistry. 596 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like it's from his. 597 00:30:54,720 --> 00:31:00,239 Speaker 2: Side, so I think he didn't feel like he had 598 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 2: chemistry with the character. 599 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't feel it at all, And. 600 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 2: I think I wonder if that had any like, do 601 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: you think he expressed himself to the producers do you 602 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: think that had any play in them being like, yeah, 603 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: we don't feel it either. 604 00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: I mean that happens. We saw that happen with Kelly. 605 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 2: Right with Dalton James. You didn't have chemistry. It's very 606 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,520 Speaker 2: important that their key characters have chemistry with the people 607 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 2: they're bringing on. So if Ian felt like he and 608 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: Hillary didn't have chemistry, that's a. 609 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: Big problem, big problem. 610 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 2: Should we ask him? 611 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: We should? We can't because he's in France right now. Yes, 612 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: Stars France from Dancing with the Stars. 613 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 2: Ro I saw on Instagram where he was. He had 614 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 2: like because they have different teams compete different weeks, so 615 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 2: he must have had a little time off or something, 616 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: because he was popping home to see his girls and 617 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 2: his girlfriend and I was like, oh my gosh, it's 618 00:31:59,240 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 2: so tiring. 619 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a long trip for like two days down. 620 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:04,120 Speaker 2: Good for him. 621 00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, takes a lot of effort. Yeah, keep the family 622 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: together in the Yeah. Well that's all I have to 623 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: say about this episode. What do you give it? 624 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 2: If there had been something ABCD, even an e storyline 625 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 2: that felt reminiscent of nine or two and zer, I 626 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 2: would be okay. But it was really tough getting through 627 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: this episode. I feel like it's I don't know, I 628 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 2: give it. I'm gonna go We're gonna give it last 629 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 2: week at four or that's what I was thinking for 630 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Yeah, it's getting worse for me. And just 631 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 2: because now every episode's this way and it's like. 632 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 1: No, yeah, I don't feel emotionally connected to the characters 633 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 1: the way I did. 634 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 2: No, because they're not really them anymore. That's important like 635 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 2: somebody else's device. 636 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I hope it gets better. Does it 637 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: get better? You guys? Is it going to get better? 638 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: Like back to the show, we loved. Yes, yes, right, we. 639 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: Have two and a half more seasons. 640 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: It'll get better, you guys, it will get better. There 641 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: is hope. 642 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 2: Is Jason leaving right after this is the sin? 643 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: I think he's there for a couple in the beginning 644 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: of nine? 645 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 2: Oh oh oh, well maybe nine? 646 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 3: Is that true? 647 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 1: We're only in episode eleven. How many episodes were in 648 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 1: season eight? I wonder was it like thirty. 649 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 2: Three thirty four because thirty two. 650 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Thirty two close? But yes, he does come back for 651 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 1: a couple of episodes in the beginning of nine, so 652 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,000 Speaker 1: we have him for the rest of the season, Thank goodness. 653 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: So he leaves the beginning of nine and Dylan comes back. 654 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 2: Greene says episode eight, I like that idea. Oh no, 655 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 2: so they're not even on at the same time. 656 00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: Rough, rough, but at least have one or the other. 657 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 2: I'll take that. 658 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 3: I'll pay. 659 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: We gave it low scores, but hopefully next week. 660 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 3: What do you think Amy would have given it? 661 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: Amy would have given it higher? No, she would have 662 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: given it a five. 663 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 3: No chance, I want to ask you next week. 664 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 2: No, because she's such a hardcore fan that she'll be 665 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 2: like I hated it, but I loved it. Anyway, I 666 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 2: still love it. 667 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: It sure. Next week, y'all, we have episode twelve of 668 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 1: season eight. It's called Friends in Deed d e E 669 00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 1: d Indeed like the Deed of the peach Pit perhaps. 670 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: Which I don't like because we know it's now it's 671 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: gonna be Hill Street Blues and Law and Order order 672 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 2: again because they're talking about a deed. 673 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,959 Speaker 1: But Noah's taking over the peach Pit after dark? 674 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 2: Right, oh right, right? Right? 675 00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,240 Speaker 1: Shall we find out? I say we shall. 676 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: We have no choice. We're going to find out. Well, 677 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 2: we're in this for the long run, like a like 678 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: a life. 679 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 1: Fels possible way. So yeah, it's gonna get better. 680 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 2: You guys, we promise. 681 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: We love you. 682 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 3: Thanks,