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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 1: We wanted to do something that highlighted our relationship and

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Speaker 1: what it's like to be siblings. We are a sibling, Railval, No, no, sibling.

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Speaker 1: You don't do that with your mouth, Vely, that's good, Ollie.

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Speaker 1: Zoe and Emily Deschanel. We recorded this like a million

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Speaker 1: years ago, like two million. Maybe that was a long

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Speaker 1: ass time ago, yes, and we've been holding on to

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Speaker 1: it and now here we are Emily and Zoe da Chanel.

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Speaker 1: First of all, the history is kind of wild because

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Speaker 1: we went to high school together. You were in the

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Speaker 1: same grade as Emily. Yes, I was three grades younger

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Speaker 1: than you, guys, and then Zoe was a grade under me.

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Speaker 1: We were all we all went to the same high school.

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Speaker 1: So it was fun the reunion of sorts. It was fun, definitely,

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Speaker 1: and Emily was I remember, you know, I remember looking

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Speaker 1: at Emily to me. I always thought she was so

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Speaker 1: beautiful in high school. She's still incredibly beautiful. And then

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Speaker 1: voice was so insane and growing up. I remember thinking like, oh,

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Speaker 1: be the best singer, and she ended up becoming an actress.

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Speaker 1: But they were very open. It was cute. Sisters are

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Speaker 1: so different. I every time we interview a sister, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I always sometimes feel like I get really tongue tied,

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Speaker 1: nice some staring at them, like longing for a real

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, it must be so different and nice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but yet you know, maybe it's it's good and it's bad,

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Speaker 1: you know. Anyway, we talked about growing up in La

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Speaker 1: we did theater. I did theater with Zoe all through

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Speaker 1: high school. The crazy thing about me and Zoe is

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Speaker 1: year before her. The following year we both got a

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Speaker 1: role in Almost Famous, So we right out of high

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Speaker 1: school started working and of course, like you know, couldn't

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Speaker 1: acting with the great Cameron Crow. So that was pretty cool.

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Speaker 1: Like we've we definitely have some karma Zoe and I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised if we did like a variety special

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Speaker 1: you guys can definitely do something. We can maybe grip

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Speaker 1: or do electric or something. Anyway, enjoyed wonderful episode with

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Speaker 1: the sisters day Chanelle. We are here with Emily and

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Speaker 1: Zoe des Chanelle, and we all went to the same

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Speaker 1: Emily were in the same grade. Correct the team. I

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Speaker 1: saw the Gophers and you guys. Did you guys ever

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Speaker 1: I don't even remember. You just know like the people

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Speaker 1: you were definitely a theater nerd. We actually did, We

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Speaker 1: We basically came up together. We are our first, our first,

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Speaker 1: So you were cast in my part? Uh huh. I

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Speaker 1: when it was Sarah Polly and Brad Pitt. So Brad

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Speaker 1: And then Cameron was like, I'm sorry, it's falling apart.

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Speaker 1: what the hell is Wrecked? Yeah? The play? Right? The play? Right?

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Speaker 1: H T. I don't know, Oliver. I've never done Oliver.

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Speaker 1: didn't even know it was the glass Menage, but I

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Speaker 1: what the interesting? Another play was interesting and I was like,

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Speaker 1: It was a very funny experience. Vanessa La she was

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Speaker 1: doing the play and I she was in it as well.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like Emily and I should make up

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Speaker 1: But when you guys, when you guys, did you immediately

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Speaker 1: them all over the the the sink in the bathroom.

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427
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428
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Speaker 1: And I remember thinking to myself, I must have been

431
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438
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450
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451
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Speaker 1: So the style had to change a little bit. The

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453
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454
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455
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457
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458
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459
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460
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461
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462
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Speaker 1: And there's a comment, yes, the moment you didn't it

463
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464
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465
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Speaker 1: So Emily d Chanel was always like the very beautiful

467
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468
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469
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470
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472
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473
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474
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475
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476
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477
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479
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480
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483
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486
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487
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488
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489
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490
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Speaker 1: Because it was Emily's like first week of ninth grade,

491
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Speaker 1: and she came home crying because this guy said, you

492
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Speaker 1: think you're so cool? Oh I don't remember. Right now

493
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Speaker 1: we're calling. We're calling him right now. It's not answering.

494
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Speaker 1: That's such a bummer. This would be so good right now.

495
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Speaker 1: Well call Emily here. But see that that that you

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497
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499
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501
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502
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503
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504
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505
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506
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555
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Speaker 1: go to New York and do theater? To a play

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Speaker 1: it with Allie ye your first play. He's already by

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561
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Speaker 1: year study theater, studying theater. Then I got an audition

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Speaker 1: for a little movie called Almost Famous. On my winter

563
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Speaker 1: break audition for it, didn't hear anything. Then on spring

564
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565
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Speaker 1: in l a. Uh so there's this part uh that

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567
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Speaker 1: tape and I was like, okay. I went in for

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570
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571
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Speaker 1: very long audition, and I was like, oh, and then

572
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Speaker 1: I got the movie and I had to quit a

573
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Speaker 1: production of Cabaret to come back and see you Northwestern.

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Speaker 1: That was at it like, once you did that gig,

575
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Speaker 1: I was going to Northwestern. I was planning on going back.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna defer the last like quarter whatever it was.

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582
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Speaker 1: left off the next year. And I reserved a public

583
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Speaker 1: storage space in Skokie, Illinois for like my computer and stuff.

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Speaker 1: It was an They were really too much to bring

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Speaker 1: and I owe them a lot of money. Yeah. So

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Speaker 1: I got there and they're like, we don't have that reservation.

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Speaker 1: I was like okay, bye, and then I just was

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Speaker 1: like I shipped all my stuff back with travelers checks

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Speaker 1: that I got from a British Vogue shoot where they

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Speaker 1: from the British Vogue shoot. Yeah. Yeah, So I got

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Speaker 1: flown back to back and you have you might have

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Speaker 1: been in this photo shoot there was like you know

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Speaker 1: they do those young Hollywood photo shoots like back in

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Speaker 1: the day. Yeah, and they'd always have like like this

606
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Speaker 1: already done my first movie before college, and and so

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Speaker 1: like one thousand dollars and I'd flown back for like

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Speaker 1: thanks for the extra. And I used the extra money

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Speaker 1: to ship all my stuff back back to LA So

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Speaker 1: your extra travelers check, yeah the traveler. So there goes

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Speaker 1: your there goes your college experience. Yeah. So then I

618
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Speaker 1: was like, I'm done with college. I shipped all my

619
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Speaker 1: stuff back. So now what did it feel like for

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Speaker 1: you on your first day doing Almost Famous? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: it was the best. I remember the rehearsals so well

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Speaker 1: with Frances McDormand and Patrick fuget He and she were awesome.

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Speaker 1: We got to rehearse so much for what small, little,

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Speaker 1: you know, stuff we had. I was so spoilt, like

625
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Speaker 1: my first two movies. I got to rehearse so so great.

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Speaker 1: You know we went to rock school, though, did you?

627
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Speaker 1: So we had rock school on Almost Famous. So we

628
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Speaker 1: had like the band and all the all the band aids.

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Speaker 1: For like a month, we would go and and and

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Speaker 1: when we rehearsed some scenes, like you know, Billy and

631
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Speaker 1: I would rehearse and Patrick and I would rehearse. But

632
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Speaker 1: then we just hang out at rock School, like the

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Speaker 1: band aids would sit there and we'd like be smoking

634
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Speaker 1: and the guys would be learning how to play their songs,

635
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Speaker 1: and it was so much fun. That's kind of like

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Speaker 1: you on Bones, like you had Bones school. I remember

637
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638
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Speaker 1: We're just smoking three weeks, we're just smoking and drinking

639
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Speaker 1: and looking at bones. You know all about the yeah

640
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: from yeah then then okay, so now you came back

641
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Speaker 1: and when when was your sort of big break Emily,

642
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: Emily audio. Sorry, you're also no one's going to be

643
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Speaker 1: able to tell the difference between Yeah, we have the

644
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: same voice, Yeah, very similar. Like sometimes when Zoe talks,

645
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: I think it's me it like on some recording or

646
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,439
Speaker 1: something or vice versa. Yeah, it's the one thing about

647
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Speaker 1: us that is I mean, I've done other things. What

648
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: do you say, it's the one thing about us that's

649
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: that really is identical. Yes, the color of your eyes,

650
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: Our eyes are pretty. Yourrors are a little green, more

651
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: green like light. They're a little lighter. Yours are a

652
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: little bit later my color. Yeah, just like your color.

653
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: Yeah are we are? We My father's winning cinematographer. So

654
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Speaker 1: what was your sort of like moment of like, oh

655
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Speaker 1: my god, this is so excited I've made it. Yeah,

656
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:20,440
Speaker 1: I'm before that though, what about just the struggles of

657
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: trying to get it done, you know? And I also

658
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: wanted to talk about just nepotism, you know, because obviously,

659
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: you know, we are all we all experienced that. But

660
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's about proving yourself. Yes,

661
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: you can get your foot in the door, but you

662
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: can't you I said so many people, you cannot sustain

663
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 1: a career if you are not like working really hard.

664
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Speaker 1: It's not like just having some connections is going to

665
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: make a career totally. But in fairness, we because of

666
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: your where you grew up and the way we grew up.

667
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: Like getting an agent wasn't difficult. You can go in

668
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Speaker 1: there and you know, you can take at the meetings.

669
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: I mean granted, yeah there were there, but I will

670
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Speaker 1: say like I got an agent in New York, but

671
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: it was like I had to go on audition for

672
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: the I don't know if he knew my family, you

673
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: know what. That was hard. But then I got a

674
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: manager because of zoe Er, I had an agent or

675
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 1: a manager. I had both, and she was friends with

676
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: the manager and I got I had like, yeah, just

677
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Speaker 1: friends with the manage student films that I did. Oh

678
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Speaker 1: yeah horrible. I mean, you know for student films, they're

679
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: not bad, but you know, the student films. And I

680
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: somehow got a manager from that, so I got I

681
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: got nepotism from Zoe. It's even because she's already working.

682
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 1: I made my sister for sure. He's still making money. Yeah,

683
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 1: like your Kate Hudson's brother, Like, yeah, how much do

684
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Speaker 1: you want to pay me for that? Twenty thousand? Perfect

685
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 1: to do? But I started working and everything, yeah you started,

686
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: I started the whole But yeah, I started working in

687
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: high school. And I actually felt like it was easy

688
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:01,319
Speaker 1: to get an a because there were so many, like

689
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: teen movies being made. They wanted to do a lot,

690
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: they wanted to sign teenagers and I was like scream

691
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: and yeah, I was like she's all that, you know

692
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: she's and then and like what was the one that

693
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: he fledger? Oh yeah, auditioned that stuff, all of those movies,

694
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 1: all of that. It was wild. There was so I

695
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: mean American pie remember, yeah, just all that stuff. So

696
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: we were right, I mean sweet was it was? Yeah,

697
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: we we we got agents real quick. But you you,

698
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: you graduate school and then spent a year in New York,

699
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 1: so by the time you came out to l A,

700
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 1: it was like not as it wasn't It was a

701
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: little bit harder to get an agent than being sixteen,

702
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: I think so, But then what about the grind for you,

703
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 1: Emily of just trying to like make it happen fucking

704
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: auditioning it's not working. I mean, how was that? Okay,

705
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 1: it's like so much rejection. It's a good thing, Like,

706
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: I mean, having did it take people family doing? Oh

707
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: my god, yeah, I mean it took me once I

708
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: got the manager here. Took me six months and so

709
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: many auditions to get one job, which I felt like

710
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna give it longer than that, So it

711
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,279
Speaker 1: was surprising to get that. But then then I'd have

712
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: like a year without work and your audition for everything,

713
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 1: and you go and you do. You're like, oh, they

714
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 1: want to test you for this pilot. And then you

715
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: go and they're like, oh, we don't want to test

716
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 1: you anywhere. You go to the like mix up or whatever,

717
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: like the chemistry, mead is the chemistry you're still testing? Nope,

718
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: we get dropped. Ye. I mean so many things like that.

719
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: It took me a year to get a job. Like

720
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, it took me a

721
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: year to get a job. Then I got like maybe

722
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: I got one job, and then I got another job

723
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: that summer. Then I went away to school, and then

724
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: I did audition for almost Famous and I got that.

725
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: But then when I came back and I was like,

726
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 1: all right, I'm set now, and then no work for

727
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: like seven months. The life of an actor is just

728
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: I always say, like, just just if you gotta have

729
00:43:56,280 --> 00:44:00,080
Speaker 1: a thick skin, you gotta be read. Even in great success,

730
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 1: you're going to be criticized and rejected almost more more

731
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 1: just you. And I say, and I say that the

732
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: auditioning process is what prepares you for success. I guess

733
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: the thing is from from all of these actors to

734
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: whoever's listening out there, if you want to become an actor,

735
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: work hard, well, it's work hard and no like it's

736
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: a roller coaster ride. I mean, there is just no

737
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,560
Speaker 1: there's no right way in wrong way. I mean, it's

738
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 1: never quits. You have to truly love it, that's all. Emily.

739
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: Did you, Emily, did you ever feel a time when

740
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: you wanted to like stop, where you're like fuck this? Well,

741
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 1: after I finished bones. I felt like I wasn't inspired

742
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: and I didn't know. I was just so exhausted too,

743
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 1: because we did it for twelve years. Insane. It's insane

744
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: what you did. Insaneur our people have done something like that.

745
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: I've seen your show. I've seen like almost every episode

746
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: you have. That's amazing. That's twelve years our show. I mean, yeah,

747
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 1: we like two two hundred and forty six episodes. What's

748
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 1: the burnout on that? You just I was completely burned out.

749
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean I also like, didn't I felt like I

750
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: played the same character for twelve years and basically only

751
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: play that character because you have like a month and

752
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,359
Speaker 1: a half two months off, and so I I there's

753
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: a couple of times where I did jobs in the

754
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: in the in the hiatus, but mostly I'd only play

755
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 1: this character. So I was like, I don't know how

756
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: to act or play another character. So I took a

757
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: lot of time off. I just, yeah, I wasn't inspired.

758
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: I felt gras, I wasn't I didn't feel healthy. It

759
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: was just yeah. But so that that's what I almost quit.

760
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: I actually almost quitted that. It wasn't from it was

761
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: actually before I did that show. I was doing because

762
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: I have a band. I was doing music and it

763
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,400
Speaker 1: was going well, and I was touring and I was like,

764
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,440
Speaker 1: this is fun. And I'm writing my own stuff and

765
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in control and it's just, you know,

766
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: just so nice and so fun, and I get to

767
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: be on stage and I love it, and I was like, yeah,

768
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: like sometimes acting just breaks your heart and you're like, oh,

769
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: it's like being like getting out of a bad relationship

770
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771
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 1: felt broken. Like at that point, like I had done

772
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Speaker 1: like ten or twelve years of doing movies, like from

773
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,200
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774
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: and I'd done enough where some movies would be such

775
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 1: amazing experiences and then other ones I'd have like really

776
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 1: high hopes and then you get there and you trust

777
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: the director. You're like, okay, you really want me to

778
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Speaker 1: give like a really big performance, and they're like, yes,

779
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: you need to give a really and you're like okay,

780
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: I'll try. And then you're like that was horrible. Why

781
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: did I listen to them? You know? And then and

782
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: then you yeah, and then again, like it doesn't turn

783
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: out how you want it to, and you put six

784
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,239
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785
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: this work. And it was like doing music was just

786
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,240
Speaker 1: so fun and care free, and I felt like every

787
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:59,040
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788
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 1: never I just never really had a bad moment play.

789
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I love laying music. I don't always

790
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,560
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791
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:11,200
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792
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Speaker 1: but it is distracting too. I mean, you know, it's

848
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: always a it's a weird balance. Jesse. We got a

849
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:52,319
Speaker 1: little hold on phone call. Hey, what's up. Jess's doing

850
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: the podcast You're Live with the Day Chanelle's and we

851
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: were yeah, well we were talking about a moment. Someone

852
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: said this story straight because I still know Emily the responsibility,

853
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: but I'm still in denial, Jesse. You did say to

854
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 1: me this, Emily, did you or did you not say

855
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: to me you think you're cool? No, you think you're

856
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:22,400
Speaker 1: so cool, but you're not. Must have been a double negative,

857
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: and there's somewhere to reverse it. But I said, I said, though,

858
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,960
Speaker 1: it was because you liked her, and and that's that's

859
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: what I said. So you know this was pre neil Strauss,

860
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: but I must have been. It must have been a technique.

861
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: It was coming from a place of heart and affection.

862
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: So I don't know, but you know that that she's

863
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,799
Speaker 1: never forgotten this, and even Zoe and apparently it's like

864
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: if it's a family thing, like Zobe was giving me

865
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: a hard time about it the other day. I know,

866
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: Hi and tried to let me off the hook, but

867
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: I really felt terrible, and I also baby reflect on

868
00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 1: all the times I've seen Emily in the last few years,

869
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: I just to think that she's been caring. It is,

870
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 1: that's that's that's rough. I think about every day, man,

871
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: I said, I think about it every day. Unfortunately, since

872
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 1: I've found out about it, well, I'm glad we cleared

873
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: this up. Thanks for calling the first time. Long time listening. Thanks. Okay, great,

874
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: so clever. Jesse, So you took the babies with you,

875
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,800
Speaker 1: both of you both we have Joe and Emily. Emily

876
00:52:45,840 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 1: had her second baby right before I had my two months. Yeah,

877
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: there were two months apart, so they got to play.

878
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 1: Calvin and Elsie are both four and they love each other.

879
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: They're so different, but the love each other. Yeah, they're

880
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,399
Speaker 1: like they are polar opposites. Elsie is like likes crafting

881
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:11,239
Speaker 1: and doing art and very risk averse. She'll sit for

882
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: a very long time at brunch and just sit there.

883
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: My boys would not sit for even a minute. Both

884
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,080
Speaker 1: my kids, both my kids will like kind of sit,

885
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: but Elsie especially. And Elsie doesn't like a thing spill

886
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: on the floor. She gets very upset. She wants to

887
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: clean it. Up right away, unsafe. She doesn't like toys

888
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,760
Speaker 1: on the floor. She's worried that people are gonna trip

889
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 1: so and but Calvin the last time they were hanging out,

890
00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: Calvin was just like throwing toys and Elsie's going and

891
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,479
Speaker 1: he said he was just pouring water on the She's

892
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:56,279
Speaker 1: just overwhelmed. They're like the odd couple. Literally. Isn't it

893
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: so fun to think and know that those relationships, as

894
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 1: they get older and we're experiencing that now, are going

895
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: to be so solid and so important. It's going to

896
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: be everything. It's everything, you know. Do you guys currently

897
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 1: get along all the time? Are you super close close?

898
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,120
Speaker 1: Do you see each other a lot? Yeah? I do

899
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:22,439
Speaker 1: see each other good amount. Emily isn't. Emily doesn't answer

900
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: her phone as much as I do. You're like, I

901
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: feel like I'll text you like three times before you'll

902
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: text me back. You're like never on. You Also, you

903
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 1: like you're more of a phone person. I'm more of

904
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 1: a text person and I am not great on You're

905
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:39,319
Speaker 1: also either more than anybody else, like really, yes, Oh

906
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: I don't talk on the phone. I don't. I don't know.

907
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: I'm not a phone You're in real do you ever

908
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 1: do you ever see Zoe's call and just not answer

909
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: it only with not available like chiropractors and been like,

910
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: I'm always picking up a kid. It's like she's always

911
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,240
Speaker 1: picking up a child. She's just picking up a Calvin.

912
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 1: How many kids you have? It's like she has four kids,

913
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,839
Speaker 1: but she's always dropping off. We have double pick up,

914
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,400
Speaker 1: double drop offs, I mean free child, so it's a

915
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 1: quadruple things. Have you guys ever physically fought all the time? Yeah?

916
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:17,320
Speaker 1: Do you have competitive natures like I do? But with

917
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,480
Speaker 1: with each other though, meaning like saying like oh that's

918
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: fucked or dis or is there any jealousy or envy

919
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: career wise? Or I don't think there is that much

920
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 1: like jealousy or envy. But I think that we both

921
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:37,719
Speaker 1: are like sensitive, like sometimes if like like I know,

922
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: sometimes if you think I'm being insensitive, you really don't

923
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: like that, right, Yes, I'm a more sensitive person, right, Yeah,

924
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: I'm less sensitive walking wound or yeah. Emily's like, yeah,

925
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: I'm less I'm like less vulnerable person. Probably you are,

926
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't you say? Yeah? Yeah, so tougher? You did you

927
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 1: find success before Zoe found success before you? Yeah? How

928
00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 1: did you feel about her success so nice and supportive.

929
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: I have to say, like she was such a good

930
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: feel like not of you. That was sort of like God,

931
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I love her and I support her, but

932
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: there's this thing where it's just Allie's projecting his experiences

933
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 1: all the time because and so far everyone's been No,

934
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: I just full support and love. I will say, she really,

935
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: Emily really is the real deal, like really really supportive,

936
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: really like good really like like across the board. Ohas

937
00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: supportive of me, even when I would think anybody else

938
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 1: would be jealous because I started earlier and I was younger,

939
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: and that I would think would be annoying, like if

940
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:45,600
Speaker 1: I were an older sister, that would annoy me. But

941
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 1: it's just Emily was always like, no, I'm so happy

942
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: for her, like at least on the surface if anything

943
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,439
Speaker 1: was going on, I didn't know so much going on underneath. No,

944
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: we're just different. So it's not like, don't think the

945
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: biggest differences are do you think that's what it is? Sensitivity?

946
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 1: That's probably a big one. Like also when we try

947
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: and do things together, like I like to plan ahead

948
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: very like a lot planning, even though I naturally don't

949
00:57:10,440 --> 00:57:13,279
Speaker 1: but I like, now get used to planning ahead. I

950
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: don't know, are you. I feel like you're more spontaneous

951
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:18,480
Speaker 1: than I am, and I like value spontaneity a lot.

952
00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: But I but I actually prepare very far ahead. It's

953
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: just that I prepare for the spontaneity to happen far ahead.

954
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'll be like, all right,

955
00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: I'm going to schedule the time very far ahead. Uh,

956
00:57:31,080 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 1: to be spontaneous. But that's an interesting thing. You plan

957
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 1: for spontaneity. Yes, I plan for spontanity. You are, I

958
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: would say you're pretty methodical. Yeah, right, and then and

959
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: I yeah, we just we do have different styles. Yeah,

960
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: we like different things in the people we have around us. Right.

961
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: How about how about raising kids? Do you guys have

962
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,959
Speaker 1: the same parental philosophies? I think the most part. Yeah, yeah,

963
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: I think Emily will like go fully like into something

964
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: like like we'll commit her like okay, well here's an example.

965
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: It's not parenting thing. But Emily's a vegan and has

966
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,160
Speaker 1: been a vegan for like twenty five years, and I'm

967
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 1: a vegetarian and I'm like I'm I'm like, I'm like

968
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: seventy five percent there, But like I don't go full

969
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 1: committal like to the thing. Emily's like all in and

970
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: like ride or die right, and I'm like, yeah, I

971
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: got as long as I got. Most of the time,

972
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: I feel pretty good about it. Now, Wait, did you

973
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: guys watch each other's shows? Were you like very much?

974
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: It was impossible to watch every Bones because there's so

975
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 1: many of them, But yeah, I like you watched every

976
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: single one. I've seen more Bones than you. But I

977
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 1: will say that I'm really good at like the first

978
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:48,560
Speaker 1: couple episodes of my brother's shows, and then I'm out.

979
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: Then usually i'm much and then usually it's like so

980
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: much going on, and the Bachelor goes and comes on

981
00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,640
Speaker 1: and it just takes. I don't say it takes pretty much.

982
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 1: Seen every episode of New Girl too. It's a show

983
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: I would have watched if she wasn't on it too.

984
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 1: But I haven't caught every movie. I haven't caught every

985
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: movie I've been in either. I don't think I've got

986
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: any movie Kate's done. I don't. We don't watch it.

987
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:17,000
Speaker 1: We don't watch it. It's weird when you know someone well,

988
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: especially if it sometimes like I don't find it weird

989
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: to watch like like someone being funny. But if somebody's

990
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: like being romantic, I'm like out, would you would you?

991
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: Would you admit? And this goes for us too, would

992
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: you admit? If you went to watch it and actually

993
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: turned it off? I would turn it off for reasons like, oh,

994
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:42,160
Speaker 1: I didn't want to watch you kiss a person. You

995
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 1: guys worked on the same lot, Yes, And if you

996
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 1: visit each other, yes, yes, but I'll see it. Calvin

997
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: were like the same age, and it was the cutest

998
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: I had more. I feel like I had a little

999
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: bit more flexible schedule than you did, so I usually

1000
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 1: would go to visit you. Emily did an episode, yeah

1001
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 1: it we played cousins and my character was obsessed with

1002
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 1: Benjamin Franklin. Fun If you had to give a piece

1003
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: of advice to someone out there is having a hard

1004
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: time with their sister relationship, what would your advice to

1005
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: sisters be? Don't own a duplex together? Yeah, don't own property,

1006
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 1: don't go into business. You own a duplex, did you guy?

1007
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: You guys own it caused a lot of stress. We've

1008
01:00:34,040 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: ever gotten along? Yeah, it was a lot of We

1009
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 1: had different approaches to everything. So yeah, I live there

1010
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: pretty much the whole time. Yeah, she moved in at

1011
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:47,240
Speaker 1: a certain point and then quickly and and then I

1012
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,360
Speaker 1: run in it to my friend, and then it was

1013
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: easier once I run in it to my friend, right,

1014
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: like our relationship was easier. It was more I feel

1015
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,760
Speaker 1: like the stress when you decided you wanted to sell

1016
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: it before you started an I was like, wait, I

1017
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: thought we were staying and you went and looked for

1018
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 1: a house, and yeah, I would say. I think it's

1019
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,760
Speaker 1: so important in any relationships to like think of the

1020
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: other person's perspective as much as you can, like to

1021
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: understand where they're coming from. Sometimes you can't always predict

1022
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,480
Speaker 1: that person's perspective though, because it's so different from yours.

1023
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: Predicted or understand or like trying either what it is.

1024
01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:27,400
Speaker 1: You have no idea what my perspective is. Sometimes sometimes

1025
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,960
Speaker 1: you'll you'll be like, I can't believe you did that.

1026
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I like that thing wouldn't be important

1027
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 1: to me, so I don't. I'm like I don't. I'm like,

1028
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:38,760
Speaker 1: I get it now that you say it. But like,

1029
01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 1: sometimes there will be something that is important to Emily

1030
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 1: that I don't know is important Emily, and I'm like,

1031
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,200
Speaker 1: oh god, I had no idea you I understand that

1032
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's weird, it's it's it's about

1033
01:01:49,680 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: it's not about what you feel. It's about being compassionate

1034
01:01:52,920 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: to what the other people other person feels, even if

1035
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: you don't agree with it or not. Yeah, yeah, you

1036
01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,919
Speaker 1: still have to be like, Okay, well I don't feel

1037
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: that way, but I understand and have compassion for the

1038
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: way that you're And sometimes it's the communication where you're like, Okay,

1039
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 1: tell me that so that for the future, I'll remember

1040
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: that you're that way, right, you know, or that that's

1041
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:15,320
Speaker 1: important to you, whereas like, because it's not important to me,

1042
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: I didn't think of it this time, but I will

1043
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:20,720
Speaker 1: next time. Because are you guys philosophically compatible or do

1044
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: you have different philosophy life philosophies? I mean that's a

1045
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: big question, but you know, just based on more like

1046
01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: spiritually I feel you know what I mean, Like you're

1047
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:36,400
Speaker 1: more like you're more like a feel like yeah, I'm

1048
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: more like yeah, I'm definitely more I'm more like philosophically inclined,

1049
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: Like yeah, spiritually inclined. Yeah, I would say that's true. Okay,

1050
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: who calls the other more. This is our speed, Zoe.

1051
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: He definitely calls I call her all. She picks up

1052
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,320
Speaker 1: like one of every five. I think that's me and

1053
01:02:55,400 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 1: you who gives better advice? We give really different? Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we both. I think I would always call you like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Emily gives say Emily, I'm gonna say Emily. It's so

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01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:12,880
Speaker 1: funny because it's like depends on what the advice is about.

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01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:17,960
Speaker 1: It good like recommend relationship relationship advice, relationship relationship advice.

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01:03:18,120 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 1: I think Emily is like very practical, so it makes

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01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: it's it's always good to you know, because you're like

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01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: why would you do that? Right? I mean, and you're

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01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:30,600
Speaker 1: like why would you do that? And I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a great point. Why would I do that? I

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01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: don't know. It was dumb. That's all I needed. The

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Speaker 1: thing you fight over most often, or do you fight?

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01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: We do definitely fight. I feel like if you get

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Speaker 1: mad at me more than I get mad at you,

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01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: that might be true. That might be true. I feel

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01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 1: like I get because I'm more sensitive, So yeah, it'll

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01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: be like if you feelings get hurt or I feel

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01:03:56,320 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: like if I'm going through something like I've gone through

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Speaker 1: something recently where it was like really hard and I

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01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: felt like you like you're like get over, like not

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01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 1: get over. You have to do is just get over it.

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Speaker 1: That's not what I want to in the fire for ever,

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Speaker 1: for a very long time. Want to live in the fire,

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01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: analyze it and be like this is really painful. We're

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01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: so similar, Zoe and I are, so yeah you do

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01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 1: you feel like her little sister? And do you feel

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01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,120
Speaker 1: like her big sister? Now that we're all adults? Here

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01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: are you're adults? Sleep? But I think sometimes? And then

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Speaker 1: his solder sister. That's like the man. Okay, best gift

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01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:42,720
Speaker 1: you've given each other? Oh, hello, kitty, grilled cheesemaker Emily

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01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: gave to me. She was like, you love hello kitty,

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01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: you love grilled cheese. Wait there you go? How did

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Speaker 1: you find this? It was like the greatest I was

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01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: like an amazing gift giver. Amazing gift giver. She's like

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01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: so thoughtful and so good at giving giving gifts and

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01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: loves it and and I just remember this one Christmas,

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Speaker 1: I was really into the grilled cheese. Might not have

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01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:16,440
Speaker 1: been my at my lowest weight. Uh, when your dress shapes,

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01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: my dress shapes were not the same, but I was

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01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,440
Speaker 1: really into grilled cheese, and Emily got me that. What

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01:05:22,560 --> 01:05:25,960
Speaker 1: about Zoe for you? Zoe gives me jumps it. Surprisingly,

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01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: it's not a jumps it she gave me. But I

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01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: wore it just in case because she is the dress

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Speaker 1: version of it. She told me I would have worn it.

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01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have. I just can wear it just in

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01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 1: case she shows up in the same outfit, because that'll

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01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: be amazing. Who's mess here? Oh I'm really messy, so

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01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: it's scott to be me. I think Emily's a little

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01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: bit messy. I remember one time you came over to

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01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: my apartment. I was like, don't touch anything, and you

1103
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: were so mad because my fingers are so dirty. Who's funnier?

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01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: Who's funny? We're both so Funnyzoe, she got paid to

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01:05:56,800 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: be funnier, really funny. Were let's say it's a tie.

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01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: Who's goof here? Oh, we're both goofy, and I would

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01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:09,200
Speaker 1: guess maybe you're I don't know, but I'm pretty weird.

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01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: Who's wittier? Who's like quick? Who's the quick? I feel

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01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: like I'm the least quickest, and I'm god like that.

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01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 1: Zoe is the words are my life, okay, who gets

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01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:29,560
Speaker 1: the last word and an arguments? Who gets the last

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01:06:29,600 --> 01:06:31,880
Speaker 1: word during an argument? I think, Emily, Oh you think

1113
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: so it's gonna see you? Really so fun. I feel

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01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,240
Speaker 1: like I feel like you because you'll be like and

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01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 1: go by, you'll hang up so I can't get any

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01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 1: more word. You guys argue, well, it's because I I

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01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 1: feel on different levels. I'll be like, yeah, we feel different.

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01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,920
Speaker 1: We have like different levels of feelings. Who's the better cook?

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01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,480
Speaker 1: Probably Zoe. We both are. We both are. I don't

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Speaker 1: really cook much now. I love Who's better in a crisis,

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Speaker 1: Emily Emily. Yes. When our mom like fell down the

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01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 1: stairs at my sister's house and had to get stitches,

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01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I'm getting out

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Speaker 1: the person. Kids go in the other room and I

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01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 1: was like, I was in the hospital five minutes. It's fun.

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Speaker 1: Who has better style? Oh, Zoe. Zoe has more like consistent,

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Speaker 1: like specific. I'm not good at like I can put

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Speaker 1: things together, but it's not like my natural inclination. Emily

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Speaker 1: is like so gorgeous. She doesn't need she doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to wear anything, but like an old sack, old sack. Jessee,

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01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: did your parents ever did you ever feel like one

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01:07:51,360 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: of you was the favorite sibling if they felt that way?

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01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 1: Was like, how did I say that? She was like

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01:07:57,840 --> 01:08:01,880
Speaker 1: very careful about it. You asked, no, no, no, I

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01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 1: never asked her, but I mean, I just she was

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01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: also very careful that I think having two girls too,

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01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,280
Speaker 1: because you go, you go. I remember she'd be like, Emily,

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01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 1: you look so pretty day, and I'd be like, what

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01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: does that mean? I don't look pretty? You know? I

1140
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: remember that being like if she said one thing to

1141
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 1: one and she had, she'd have to worry about the other.

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01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: I feel like, are so sensitive. I can relate. I

1143
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 1: can relate to that as an actor because I feel

1144
01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: like everyone gets praised with me after a scene, like

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01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:33,760
Speaker 1: they're like, Jimmy, that was a great scene. Me too.

1146
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: Like the next scene, I'm like, okay, assume you now, so,

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01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 1: especially early on micros, so conscious of that one thing

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01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: that you would want to like alleviate your sibling from, right,

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01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,360
Speaker 1: Like if you could take something at a zoe and

1150
01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 1: be like, god, if you just if you I wish

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01:08:54,760 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: I could wish you feel that. Yeah, if I could

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01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: take away like some of your like extra feeling that

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01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: you feel it and just I would say, I would say,

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01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 1: you got a lot of feels, Let's just take some

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01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 1: of the extra feels and just go recycle it feelings.

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01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a place that was some like vegan

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01:09:24,800 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: whipped cream. I like that. I don't know. I mean,

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01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:31,640
Speaker 1: I feel like you're pretty good. Like i'd want to

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01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 1: take certain things, like any kind of pain or something

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01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: like that away, But I feel like you deal with

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01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:44,080
Speaker 1: things better than they're so deep, so public deal having

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01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: to deal with the public so much. I mean, she's

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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: more in the public than I am. So like having

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01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,559
Speaker 1: to deal with that, like that is my worst nightmare.

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01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 1: I can't handle that stuff. What about the reverse? What

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01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: would you like to have for yourself that Zoe possesses

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01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 1: so many things? I feel like, you know, like handling

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01:10:05,080 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 1: things better or having less of like getting bogged down

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01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,640
Speaker 1: by emotions. You don't get that, like being able to

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Speaker 1: Emily is like the most compassionate person I know. Like

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01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 1: I would love to like have like an ounce, like

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01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: a little extra. I feel like I'm compassionate, but I

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01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,400
Speaker 1: have to like think about a lot. It's like it

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01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: comes so naturally to her, and she's so empathetic, naturally

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01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 1: has always been that way. It's like I remember being

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01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: at dinner her kids and someone talked about dolphins and

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01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 1: she was like, like just about dolphins, and I was like,

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01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:45,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, what's wrong with dolphins? Like she's like

1179
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: feeling the dolphins pain. And I was like, oh my god,

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01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:54,360
Speaker 1: this is like such a that's my extra feelings everybody,

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01:10:54,520 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 1: and I'm like, yeah, she isn't a bath. We're so happy,

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Speaker 1: you guys. Sibling Revelry is executive produced by Kate Hudson

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Speaker 1: and Oliver Hudson. Producer is Alison Presnik. Music by Mark

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