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Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive on your twenty four to

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Speaker 1: seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Steeler Nation, how we doing well? That's good us too,

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Speaker 2: Our number two here of the Drive West Schuler, Matt

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Speaker 2: Williamson on a victory Monday, and to the phone lines

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Speaker 2: we go to talk to the voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Rob king Kinger, you got to settle something

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Speaker 2: for us here, all right. You got to peel back

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Speaker 2: the curt in a little bit little transparency, little how

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Speaker 2: the sausage is made, if you will, for our audience.

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Speaker 2: We were laughing about your Decaylon Metcalfe story.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: And and kind of the conundrum that you find yourself

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Speaker 2: in here because you did good, good journalistic, good broadcaster

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Speaker 2: work and you found out the pronunciation of one of

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Speaker 2: the players and what he prefers to be called. But

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Speaker 2: now it's confusing a lot of people because no one,

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Speaker 2: I think most people don't even know his first name

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Speaker 2: is Decaelan let alone when you say it on a broadcast.

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Speaker 2: This kind of reminds me Kinger. I know you'll remember this, Matt.

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Speaker 2: I think you might as well too. The like the

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Speaker 2: back to back Cup winning pens of like the sixteen, seventeen,

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Speaker 2: twenty eighteen years had a player named Connor Sherry who

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Speaker 2: everybody called Connor Sheery for years until he just like

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Speaker 2: told people casually, actually it's Sherry, And then broadcasters were

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Speaker 2: confused and fans were confused for months and months and months.

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Speaker 2: So paint us this picture how you brought this up

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Speaker 2: with DK, with Dekaylan, and where you go now that

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Speaker 2: he's told you he prefers to be called Decaylan, but

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Speaker 2: everybody else is scratching their heads and asking you why

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Speaker 2: you're doing this.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to painted myself into an unneeded corner in

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Speaker 4: which to be painted. Yeah, So I just went up

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Speaker 4: to I don't know what possessed me to ask the question.

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Speaker 4: I just said, hey, is there any circumstance under which

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Speaker 4: you'd like to be called the Kalin When I'm broadcasting

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Speaker 4: a game, Just like I'll ask guys about the pronunciations

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Speaker 4: and nicknames and other things just to make sure they're

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Speaker 4: cool with stuff. You know, Darius Slay doesn't like Darius,

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Speaker 4: you'd be just like Sligh. Well, you know, at some

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Speaker 4: point you have to say Darius, right, and then after

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Speaker 4: that you can take play, So so I asked him

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Speaker 4: and he said, well, no, actually I preferred the Kalen

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Speaker 4: and I was like what. He goes, yeah, everyone just

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Speaker 4: mispronounced it, so they call me DK. So I was like, well,

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Speaker 4: do you want me to call you that? And he

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Speaker 4: goes yeah, and I can't remember it. I was just

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Speaker 4: so I was like, what what do I do now?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 3: Are you torn? Going forward?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I'm I'm probably gonna go back to t

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Speaker 5: K to be honest, and I may I may go

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Speaker 5: up now and unnecessarily again apologize to him and tell

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Speaker 5: him that. But it's not like, you know, you have

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Speaker 5: all these national broadcasters. You know, hockey is mostly a

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Speaker 5: local game with the occasional national broadcast. The NFL isn't

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Speaker 5: that way. It's a national game that has you know,

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Speaker 5: local broadcasting currently, but most people are watching the game,

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Speaker 5: except hopefully here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 4: You're listening to it sounddown. So it's not going to

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Speaker 4: reverse the national trend and it's only going to create

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Speaker 4: some confusion. So, uh, I got the kaling in for

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Speaker 4: the touchdown, Probably work it in on occasion, but I'll

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Speaker 4: probably have to go back to the DK, you know,

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Speaker 4: I think. I mean, I think I have to because

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Speaker 4: that's what everybody knows about.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's playing pretty well. He's scoring every week. So

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Speaker 6: whatever you're doing, just keep it off, all you guys.

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Speaker 6: You know, I think things are starting to come around

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Speaker 6: on offense, and I thought the offensive line took a

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Speaker 6: nice step forward yesterday.

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Speaker 4: You know, look, I think everything you want to do

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Speaker 4: is obviously predicated on the offensive line. I mean, clearly

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Speaker 4: you have to have, especially the right quarterback and some

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Speaker 4: playmakers that you can get the ball to. But it

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Speaker 4: starts upfront.

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Speaker 5: And the serius have said that.

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Speaker 4: I mean they've said, look, we want to be able

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Speaker 4: to bully teams and use our physicality up front on

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Speaker 4: both offense and defense. And it is nice when you

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Speaker 4: can bring into Spencer Anderson and maybe Darnhill. Washington is

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Speaker 4: just here to stay as you're starting tight end because

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Speaker 4: of his versatility in both blocking and pass catching. But

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Speaker 4: you would ideally like you're five to be able to

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Speaker 4: just don't think that the offensive line was quite ready

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Speaker 4: You had, you know, and I've I've you know, I've I've,

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Speaker 4: you know, s of mentioned Max Starks, not sort of.

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Speaker 4: I have mentioned Max Starks in regard to this because

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Speaker 4: I had a question for him. He's the former offensive

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Speaker 4: lineman who switched positions. How many weeks do you need

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Speaker 4: for guys switching positions again? Roger Jones has been playing

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Speaker 4: right tackle, now he's playing left tackle. Troy Foutanu played

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Speaker 4: left tackle in college, now he's playing right tackle, and

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Speaker 4: anothery went through it in camp and in preseason. But

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Speaker 4: Max says, no, you got to give these guys five

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Speaker 4: or six games just for switching sides. And I asked

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Speaker 4: about the rookie thing and the talent thing. He said, Look,

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Speaker 4: if they're talented enough because they were taken in the

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Speaker 4: first rounds, you don't worry about the talent. You just

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Speaker 4: worry about the differences on changing sides. And so I

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Speaker 4: think that that goes a long way to it. I

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Speaker 4: think we all feel like the interior of that offensive

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Speaker 4: and large that are going to have to deal with

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Speaker 4: the With the pass rush, they held up well. Now

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Speaker 4: Cleveland's a different story. They get a lot of pressure

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Speaker 4: from the interior and I thought that interior, the offensive

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Speaker 4: line to the steward did an excellent job. You know,

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Speaker 4: we're talking to Mike Perzuda earlier, Matt, you and I

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Speaker 4: and you know the Steelers. You take away the three

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Speaker 4: Mason Rudolph, and they average four yards to carry against

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Speaker 4: the defense allowing only three yards to carry. Yeah, you

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Speaker 4: take away the Caleb Johnson obvious runs and the yards

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Speaker 4: per carry gets even better. Now are we trying to

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Speaker 4: gloss over the statistics. No, We're just trying to point

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Speaker 4: out the fact that the running game was more effective

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Speaker 4: now three point six yards to carry. No, it was

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Speaker 4: better than that. So and that all starts with the

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Speaker 4: offensive line. All credit to Jalen Warren and gain Well

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Speaker 4: and Caleb Johnson. That it has to start up front,

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Speaker 4: and it is improving. It's one of the areas that

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Speaker 4: needed to improve from the beginning of the year onward

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Speaker 4: if you were going to be the kind of team

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Speaker 4: is definitely pointing up definitely.

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Speaker 2: Rob and kind of maybe same church, different pew You know,

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Speaker 2: Matt and I use that term the team you want

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Speaker 2: put it. Matt and I have been kind of following

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Speaker 2: a few key indicators in that regard since training camp.

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Speaker 2: Average yards per run, you know, yards per carry was

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Speaker 2: one of them. Explosive play differential was one of them.

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Speaker 2: Sack differential was another one. And man, this Steelers defensive front,

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Speaker 2: it took a little time for it to come together.

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Speaker 2: You know, Cam Hayward's slower start, I think that was

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Speaker 2: to be expected. You didn't have your first round pick

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Speaker 2: Because of that, it felt like Keanu Benten was a

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Speaker 2: little miscast. You lose Alex high Smith for a period

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Speaker 2: gotten healthier, They've gotten everybody up to speed. Nick Herbig

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Speaker 2: here at this point, if they are going to be

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Speaker 2: defense is starting to check a lot of those boxes.

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Speaker 4: And look in the part, yeah they are, and I

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Speaker 4: think you underscored all the main points there. West, you know,

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Speaker 4: there was the whole in with Cam Hayward and and

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Speaker 4: you know, Week one, I think because of that and

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Speaker 4: did not have a great feeling about Week one against

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Speaker 4: based upon the personnel they have and based upon what

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Speaker 4: especially that playoff game. You know that the Ravens just

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Speaker 4: sledgehammering it at the Steelers and the Steelers incapable of

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Speaker 4: stopping it. So what were they gonna do? They were

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Speaker 4: gonna do that. And look, you know we've talked about

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Speaker 4: have to have that good depth. It's impossible to have

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Speaker 4: great depth everywhere, by the way in a team. Uh,

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Speaker 4: that's just that's just it's not gonna happen. And no

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Speaker 4: think that the defense is coming together. I do think

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Speaker 4: it starts up front. You know, if you want to

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Speaker 4: you know, if you really want to unleash the powers

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Speaker 4: in an ideal world, and of course nothing's quite ideal.

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Speaker 4: But you stop the run, okay, great? Uh, then you

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Speaker 4: So guess what. Now you have three corners who you love.

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Speaker 4: Now you can start bringing blitzes. I mean, Deshaun Elliot

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Speaker 4: this week. You know, Matt and his Matt's Stats talked

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Speaker 4: about how much were there blitzing Patrick Queen being effective

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Speaker 4: in that regard. It is starting, and to me, it

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Speaker 4: starts with the It starts with stopping to run. But

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Speaker 4: you have to have that personnel behind it, and it's

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Speaker 4: looking like all of those things are starting to drop

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Speaker 6: Let's stick with Queen a little bit because I think

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Speaker 6: you can get overshadowed with some of the star power

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Speaker 6: in that side of the ball, some of the new faces,

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Speaker 6: you know, Ramsey and Slay, et cetera. Harman, but I

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Speaker 6: think they've weaponized Queen a lot more as just an

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Speaker 6: attack player. He's a phenomenal athlete. I mean, you watch

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Speaker 6: the games live in the building, you really see his

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Speaker 6: speed and change a direction and explosiveness better than you do,

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Speaker 6: you know on TV. I think Queen's turning the corner

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean, he's a two time Pro Bowler, and

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Speaker 4: I know Pro Bowl and All Pro aren't the same things,

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Speaker 4: but it's not like he's not decorated. But you know, Matt,

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Speaker 4: I wondered what they were going to do when they

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Speaker 4: got him and how they were going to utilize because

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Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two for the Ravens, he had five sacks,

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Speaker 4: and then the next year when he was a second

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Speaker 4: year All Pro, he had three and a half sacks.

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Speaker 4: And for the Steelers, you know they did not utilize

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Speaker 4: in that, but he had one sack last year. Now

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Speaker 4: he had one hundred and twenty nine tackles right tackling machine.

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Speaker 4: And but but is that absolutely the best use of him?

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Speaker 2: There he is, Rob King noted author. You know what

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Speaker 2: Well, Matt, we've got our first I guess coaching change,

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Speaker 2: coach there in Nashville. In Tennessee, Matt I continue to think,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I kind of sit on both sides

432
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Speaker 2: of the fence on this one on one half. Like

433
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Speaker 2: I've always firmly believed in, like you need to give

434
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Speaker 2: a coach at least three years. It's football is.

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Speaker 6: So you know, they're taking over a bad situation, especially

436
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Speaker 6: when they're taking over a bad situation.

437
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm not saying that Alabama has to give

438
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Speaker 2: all their coaches three years, right, you know, but an

439
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,440
Speaker 2: NFL team that is in a very bad situation devoid

440
00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 2: of talent rebuilding, not only do you have to supplement that,

441
00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: you also just need time to get guys that fit

442
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 2: your system and your scheme and square pegs for square

443
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 2: holes type things. But also four and nineteen through two

444
00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: years is pretty glaring as well too. I think we're

445
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,879
Speaker 2: seeing more and more of this at every level, but

446
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 2: especially now in the NFL. Coaches getting fired after just

447
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: one year into their second season in Brian Callahan the

448
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 2: latest one.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, And the other thing about it is, I don't

450
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 6: know what going to an interim gains you for the

451
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Speaker 6: rest of the season. You know, could you let him

452
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Speaker 6: play it out see if he could write the ship.

453
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Speaker 6: You must have liked something about him when you hired him, obviously.

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Speaker 3: But the vibes are bad.

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Speaker 6: I mean, first off, I think it's noteworthy that over

456
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,679
Speaker 6: the last three years right round they fired a coach

457
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Speaker 6: or a GM, then a coach, a GM, now a coach.

458
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,400
Speaker 6: Yeah not ever at the same time, it's just I'm

459
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,480
Speaker 6: gonna get this guy. Who's going to help me replace

460
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 6: the next guy? Like there's no continuity at all. Who's

461
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,800
Speaker 6: hiring the next guy? You know, like sometimes do the

462
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Speaker 6: whole full swoop, you know. And coincidentally, Vrabel's playing Tennessee

463
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Speaker 6: this upcoming week. You know, who was one of the

464
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,919
Speaker 6: first to go off was quite successful, correct, So it

465
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 6: makes you wonder And unfortunately this is true in the league.

466
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Speaker 6: And fortunately around here you don't have that problem. There's

467
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 6: some owners that are in over their head. I mean

468
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 6: they're just flat out arms without look at the Jets

469
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Speaker 6: right right, and I think Tennessee is as good of

470
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Speaker 6: an example as any. They got a super promising quarterback,

471
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 6: but the product they've put on the field is the

472
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 6: worst in the league.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

474
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Speaker 6: I mean, I know the Jets are fighting for it too,

475
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Speaker 6: and they have not won, but they're embarrassing right now.

476
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Speaker 6: The Titans, they're several years away in terms of their

477
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Speaker 6: roster just you know, building anything. You're not seeing any

478
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Speaker 6: steps in that right direction, except for maybe of the quarterback.

479
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Speaker 6: But he still needs a ton of development.

480
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Speaker 2: And you're like, is this the right staff to do that? Yeah,

481
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:50,439
Speaker 2: and put everything around him that he needs to be successful.

482
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Speaker 6: I mean, if if Arizona doesn't give that game away

483
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Speaker 6: two weeks ago, and they're not a juggernaut either, Jet

484
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Speaker 6: and I think they'd be easily thirty second in it

485
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Speaker 6: power rank, which I thought they should have been when

486
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Speaker 6: we did power ranks last Tuesday.

487
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 2: The Raiders did not play well and still beat them

488
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Speaker 2: by double digits.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and they're not good either, No, I mean, they're

490
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Speaker 6: a bottom five team and they handled.

491
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Speaker 2: And they handled them despite not playing playing well. Yeah.

492
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Speaker 2: So our first NFL coaching change, NFL firing happens in Tennessee,

493
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Speaker 2: and that comes on the heels of the Titans dropping.

494
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Speaker 6: What's kind of hilarious or weird is his dad's on staff.

495
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Speaker 6: His dad's the a line coach. Is he really I

496
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Speaker 6: didn't really, he's like a legendary oh lion coh they

497
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 6: came over.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you're right, all right.

499
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Speaker 6: I mean he was the Browns oh line coach. The

500
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 6: Browns let him out of his contract to go be

501
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Speaker 6: with his son, who came over from the Bengals. I

502
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 6: assume he's still gonna be the a line coach, but

503
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 6: sunny boy and coming around for lunch or anything.

504
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

505
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's tough. Hey, it happens quickly in this league.

506
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 2: It certainly does. But yeah, a coaching change for the

507
00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,440
Speaker 2: Titans after they, like I said, follow the Raider twenty

508
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: to ten yesterday, and that is the first one in

509
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,080
Speaker 2: the National Football League will not be the last.

510
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Speaker 3: In fact, I bet I.

511
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Speaker 2: Bet you will probably get another here in the month

512
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Speaker 2: of October.

513
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Speaker 3: At least I think that's probably if.

514
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Speaker 2: I had to guess, Matt, you want to run through

515
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: the gambit of these games from yesterday. Yeah, sure, the

516
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 2: Broncos talking about a sloppy one, an ugly one, but

517
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:27,159
Speaker 2: the Broncos getting a man, I mean games into Glenn's career.

518
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: But again, we've seen the Patriots just fired a coach

519
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: after one year It's happened a couple times now in

520
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,400
Speaker 2: recent memory.

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Speaker 6: I'm shocked didn't win this by a lot more. To

522
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 6: be honest with you, Denver's d is great. Their offense

523
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 6: still struggled, but I mean all you need to know

524
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 6: is justin Fields completed nine passes.

525
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 2: This is staggering, was sacked.

526
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Speaker 6: Nine times and ended up with negative ten passing yards

527
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Speaker 6: as a team.

528
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Speaker 3: Staggering, staggering. They went backwards when they went.

529
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Speaker 2: Forward, as you quite often like to say, they could

530
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 2: have snapped every pass play and spiked it into the

531
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Speaker 2: ground and been better off.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, except for the handoffs. I mean, every

533
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 6: pass it's.

534
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: A historically bad stuff from the Jets off off awful

535
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 2: And where where do you go? Right, what do you do?

536
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:19,120
Speaker 3: Lose a lot of games?

537
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: They are going to lose a lot of games, and

538
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a it's gonna be a long back

539
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,200
Speaker 2: half of the season for everybody there in Gang Green,

540
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 2: that's for sure. That one was the early morning London

541
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: game yesterday, of course at at Tottenham Hotspur Stadium. Won

542
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: more of those to go next week Jackson Jacksonville plays.

543
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 3: I should know that. But it's kind of like a

544
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 3: home game for Jackson.

545
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Speaker 2: Rams maybe yeah, is it r uh? So that's your

546
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 2: that's your early morning game. There a weird one thirteen

547
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 2: to eleven. You see that score all the time. As

548
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: the Broncos take down the Jets, then the Colts Matt

549
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 2: they continue to find different ways to win. Yeah, you

550
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 2: need them thirty some points, they can do it. You

551
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: need them to win a defense struggle, they can do it.

552
00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 2: Colts thirty one to twenty seven over the Cardinals to

553
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 2: move to five and one.

554
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Speaker 6: Yeah, Jacob Rissett led the Cardinals and they were better

555
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 6: off than I would have thought. But I give the

556
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Speaker 6: Colts credit. Like you said, they can win pretty much

557
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 6: any way you want. You know, Taylor, Daniel Jones, Warren,

558
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 6: they got some star power now, they sure do.

559
00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're good.

560
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: You We'll see them here in a couple of weeks.

561
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 2: Total sidebar. But they had the full roof open of

562
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:27,639
Speaker 2: Lucas Oil Stadium.

563
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

564
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I have been to Indianapolis a million

565
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 2: times for the combine. I've also between regular season and preseason.

566
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: I think I've done three Steelers games there as well too.

567
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: I need to see that I need to do something

568
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 2: there with that stadium.

569
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Speaker 3: Open.

570
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: That looked awesome. It did look cool, like the whole

571
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 2: roof is open, the sun shining in. That was that

572
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: was really cool. They say, I understand they can't do

573
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 2: that in February for the combine it'll be a little

574
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 2: too cold. But maybe maybe next time.

575
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 3: I steal it forty times.

576
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe next time the Steelers are out there, they

577
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: can open up the roofs uh. Speaking of places that

578
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 2: could be making coaching changes, the Miami Dolphins certainly would

579
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: be on that list. Bad vibes there. They drop a

580
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: close one at home to the Chargers twenty nine to

581
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 2: twenty seven. Chargers just needed to find a way to win,

582
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,120
Speaker 2: and kind of they did zap that two game losing streak,

583
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 2: and they did, and the Dolphins falled to one and five.

584
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 3: And the I mean, they're not as miserable watches like

585
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: the Titans.

586
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: They're not.

587
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:28,800
Speaker 6: They've got some Lamborghinis and offense just.

588
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 2: But it's bad vibes. They're losing a lot of close

589
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,680
Speaker 2: they lose a lot of close games. They fall to

590
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 2: one and five. I mean that division is the Bills

591
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 2: and the Patriots and a lot of ye as the

592
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: Dolphins and the Jets have just one win between them

593
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 2: and certainly not getting any better in Miami. Speaking of

594
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: those Patriots, they got another victory. They kind of did

595
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: exactly what we predicted. Matt go down to New Orleans, fantastic,

596
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: outstanding and they had twenty two first half points, just

597
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 2: a feel goal in the second half, but that was

598
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,239
Speaker 2: enough for the Patriots to move to forward and too

599
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 2: with a twenty five to nineteen win in New Orleans.

600
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 6: And the Saints are another one that they're not as

601
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 6: hard to watch as Tennessee or the Jets or I mean,

602
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 6: like there's not.

603
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 3: A lot of much.

604
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: Rather like I'd much rather watch the Saints. I'd watch

605
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 2: the Saints and the Dolphins play three times before i'd

606
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: watch the Jets and the Titans play once.

607
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:22,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly, like they're just not they don't have good

608
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 6: enough players yet you know.

609
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: No, they don't. And perhaps one of the more surprising

610
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: results of the weekend, the Panthers somehow hanging around with them.

611
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah I don't either, but they beat the Cowboys thirty

612
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: to twenty seven there in Charlotte.

613
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: I know exactly what do with the Cowboys.

614
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 6: It's always gonna be a high scoring game, and Dak's

615
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 6: always gonna put up numbers.

616
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Speaker 3: I'll be honest. Pickens has been phenomenal, you know, with

617
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 3: lamb out that hasn't.

618
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 2: Gotten on both of my big money fantasy.

619
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Speaker 3: Team and he's.

620
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 2: Carried me to some victories here. Yeah, but that's I mean,

621
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 2: that's about all they got going for him is Dak

622
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 2: and George Pickens at this point rible to defense is terrible.

623
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean, they're scoring points and losing gay it feels

624
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 2: a lot like the Bengals of last lot, scoring points

625
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: and still finding a way to lose games. Hey, who

626
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 2: saw the Panthers being three and three?

627
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah? What to make of them?

628
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 2: I don't either. I don't either. And one of the

629
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: games that we kind of had circled to watch this

630
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: weekend Matt down in Jacksonville, a tight, low scoring one

631
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 2: between the Jags and the Seahawks. But the Seahawks find

632
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 2: a way. Both of these teams now four and two.

633
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,600
Speaker 2: The Seahawks are perfect three and zero on the road.

634
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 3: They continue ridiculously.

635
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,720
Speaker 2: Know how to win games on the East Coast like

636
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:35,000
Speaker 2: nobody else on the West Coast. It's wild Seattle twenty

637
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 2: to twelve over the Jags.

638
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 6: And I think the Jags were bad in this game.

639
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 6: I think Seattle, as we talked about on Friday, is

640
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 6: a one tier above them as a franchise right now.

641
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 6: That Darnald to Smith Najigma thing is incredible.

642
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 2: And they're in all levels insane.

643
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 3: And they had a ton of sacks too.

644
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 6: I mean that defensive front as we saw live, Seattle's

645
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 6: pretty darn good defense.

646
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 2: Yes they are, and that showed against Jacksonville, and I

647
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,640
Speaker 2: think was a big difference in that one. The Rams

648
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: moved to four and two as well. They go into

649
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 2: Baltimore and do what everybody's done and beat the Ravens,

650
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: different to I think how we all expected to play

651
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:09,800
Speaker 2: out though Matt they had a.

652
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:10,760
Speaker 3: Lot lot of injuries.

653
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 2: They were tied at three at a time, a lot

654
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Speaker 2: of injuries.

655
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: Weird one Coup is probably gonna miss the next weekend London.

656
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Speaker 2: It looks like he's going to miss some time. Yeah,

657
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 2: and hey, they're in an alright spot, but they are

658
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 2: weird one three to three at the half, Rams come

659
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 2: out and score bang bang, two quick touchdowns and then

660
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 2: that was kind of it. Seventeen to three over Baltimore.

661
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 6: And Baltimore's obviously in a huge hole. Great to see

662
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 6: them lose no matter how it went. Yeah, but both

663
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 6: both quarterbacks got in there. You know, they need to

664
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 6: buy more than anything I can remember.

665
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Speaker 2: I would absolutely agree with that. I don't know how

666
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: much better it's going to get for him out of

667
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: the bye, but it certainly can't get much worse.

668
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 3: Much worse.

669
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Speaker 2: Right, We did kind of mention Raiders over the Titans

670
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 2: twenty to ten.

671
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: They're bad football teams, and it really wasn't that.

672
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Speaker 5: Quel.

673
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Speaker 2: I was just going to say, like any signs of

674
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,240
Speaker 2: life there from the Raiders for you? Is it just

675
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: they were the best are of two bad team.

676
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 3: Bowers is back being healthy, which goes a long way.

677
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 6: He was really missed. Genti's a keeper. Gino was still uneven,

678
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 6: but like Crosby and Bowers and Gente, you showed up

679
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 6: as Yeah, you know, hard guys to play against.

680
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 2: Their offensive line. It's not so great, terrible, terrible Packers.

681
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: Out of there bye week, they get back to feeling good.

682
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 2: They moved to three to one and one with a

683
00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: twenty seven to eighteen win over Cincinnati. Hey, Bengals kept

684
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 2: that one close late.

685
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Speaker 6: Yeah, We'll talk a lot of Bengals, but I mean

686
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 6: the Bengals first half offense is so horrendous. Everything they're

687
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 6: doing isn't quite garbage time, but it's been late in

688
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 6: games when they're losing.

689
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Speaker 3: Bengals defense is right there at the bottom.

690
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 6: The league kind of shot Green Bay didn't win by more,

691
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 6: you know, like we since the Parsons trade all these

692
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 6: super high hopes for the Packers. They beat a pretty

693
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 6: bad team. Okay, they've tied a team. They lost to

694
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Speaker 6: the Browns, you know, like their their last three games

695
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 6: or so or not.

696
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 2: They looked like Gangbusters the first two weeks of the

697
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 2: season when they were beating up on the Lions. The Commanders,

698
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 2: they're team right now, No they're not, and hopefully.

699
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: Went nothing to do with tackling Josh Jacobs and not

700
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: at all interested in.

701
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 2: That Tucker craft as well too. But yeah, the Packers,

702
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 2: let's hope that they kind of stay in this rut

703
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: a little bit through the end of the month, when

704
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 2: they'll be in Pittsburgh in a couple of weeks here

705
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: for Sunday Night football. But yeah, they they end up

706
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 2: winning by nine, but wasn't quite as decisive and impressive

707
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 2: as as maybe the final score looked. By the way

708
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 2: I mean to say this, too, speaking of offenses and struggling,

709
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 2: and I wanted to bring this up at some point,

710
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: and I just remembered it. Steelers defense not giving up

711
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,239
Speaker 2: a touchdown yesterday for the first time since Week two

712
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: in Denver last year. Yeah, so a little over a

713
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: year the Steelers able to keep a team out of

714
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 2: the end zone. Got to love to see that. A

715
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 2: couple more here another one that we two more that

716
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,279
Speaker 2: we had circled on the calendar to watch the Tampa

717
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers continue to impress. Man, they moved a five

718
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 2: and one. They take down the Niners thirty to nineteen.

719
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 2: Another devastating loss for San Francisco, as Fred Warner is

720
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 2: going to be out for the season as well, and

721
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: that might be that's the kiss, that's the kiss.

722
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 6: I think Kittle might come back next week. But still,

723
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Speaker 6: I mean, even like Jennings, the wide receiver had like

724
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 6: four broken ribs. He's playing with like their second year

725
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 6: in a row, they've been this smashing, injuries smashed, and

726
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 6: Warner is going to be a tough one over and

727
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 6: almost an impossible one to overcome. The Bucks though, I

728
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 6: mean Baker's MVP right now, Yes he is. They won

729
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 6: that game Abuka gets hurt in the game, Evans didn't play.

730
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Speaker 6: Oh man, they were missing two offensive banged up. Yeah,

731
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 6: they got a ton of He still scored thirty points exactly.

732
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Speaker 3: They're real impressive.

733
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Speaker 5: M v P.

734
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Speaker 2: Baker oh Man, who saw that one coming. Yeah, good

735
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,919
Speaker 2: for him. As the Bucks moved to five and one,

736
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,319
Speaker 2: and they're starting to look like one of the best

737
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: teams in the NFC for sure. And then finally it

738
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,280
Speaker 2: was as close to him must win for the Chiefs

739
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: as you could have at this point in the season.

740
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,000
Speaker 2: They take care of business at home against the line

741
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,280
Speaker 2: thirty to seventeen. Kansas City moves back to five hundred

742
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 2: at three and three, Lions fall to four and two.

743
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,839
Speaker 6: I we all watched the game, or most people did.

744
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 6: I think the Chiefs are pretty legit at this point.

745
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 6: The o lin's a lot better than it's been. I

746
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 6: think they basically fixed that the defense is always going

747
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 6: to be solid. They didn't stop the run well early

748
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 6: and that's been a problem for them, and I thought,

749
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 6: oh man, this could be a long night for the Chiefs.

750
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Speaker 6: But they figured out a way, you know, I mean,

751
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 6: and they always kind of will.

752
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,279
Speaker 3: In my opinion, the Lions really didn't change it.

753
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Speaker 6: Yeah, be honestly, that's a tough, tough game, tough environment

754
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 6: on Sunday.

755
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 2: Night, Matt, We've got two Monday nighters tonight. I think

756
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 2: both games intriguing for different reasons. I'm just always looking

757
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,800
Speaker 2: for reasons to watch. Sure, right, Bill's Falcons. Okay, Buffalo

758
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: one of the better teams in the league, Josh Allen,

759
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 2: that offense coming off of a loss against a Falcons

760
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,959
Speaker 2: team with a lot of young pieces, they don't haste

761
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 2: a lot.

762
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 3: Of primetime, a lot of prime time, a different environment.

763
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Speaker 2: You know, Buffalo only a three and a half point favorite,

764
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,560
Speaker 2: you lay in those points.

765
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Speaker 3: I think so.

766
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Speaker 6: I think the Bills got a smidge embarrass the last game.

767
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: That's the big kicker.

768
00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 6: Time to play them. But I could see a lot

769
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 6: of points in that game. I don't love either defense.

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00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: I could see Atlanta like hanging around, and then Buffalo

771
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 2: scores late and ends up winning by ten.

772
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's crazy, but.

773
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Speaker 2: It wasn't a blowout type game. And then Bear's Commanders Caleb, Williams,

774
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 2: Jane and Daniels two teams that are feeling all right

775
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 2: about themselves. Washington a five and a half point favorite,

776
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 2: at home.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm taking the points. Having some faith in

778
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 3: Caleb and the new coach.

779
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Speaker 6: I think they're starting to feel what it's like to

780
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 6: do this at a professional level, you know, with one another.

781
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,640
Speaker 6: But Washington runs a ball on everyone, and the Bears

782
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 6: d has not been what I thought it would be

783
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Speaker 6: this year.

784
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Speaker 2: I like that number plus five and a half for

785
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,400
Speaker 2: Chicago if it was if it was three and a

786
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 2: half or four and a half, I think I'd lay

787
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 2: them the Commanders. Five and a half are over. I'll

788
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: take the points with Chicago. I think Washington wins, but

789
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: the Bears find a way to keep it competitive.

790
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think their offense is pretty good.

791
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 2: Yes, I think so too. I think so too. But

792
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: like I said, two games tonight that I'm excited to. Yeah,

793
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,760
Speaker 2: they're to throw on the television.

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00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,239
Speaker 3: I think that hard to take it watch both the

795
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: same time.

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Speaker 2: I completely agree and it kind of gives me an

797
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: excuse to get out of bedtime with the kids. Sorry,

798
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: Dad's gonna watch this seven to fifteen football game for work.

799
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,960
Speaker 2: Mom will have to put you down one more segment

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Speaker 2: to go. A couple tweets to close us down On

801
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Speaker 2: the other side, when we return Westsheler, Matt Williamson. It

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Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

805
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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

806
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here on a victory Monday, as

807
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 2: the Steelers take care of business out of the bye week,

808
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: take down the Browns twenty three to nine. And you

809
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 2: guys have tweeted some thoughts and some observations. Let's get

810
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: to some of these before we get up out of here.

811
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Speaker 2: Does that work for you? Mister Williamsons, absolutely. Wallace will

812
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: lead us off and says, after all the catterwalling about

813
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: the offensive line recently, the praise for yesterday's performance is refreshing.

814
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: Sure they had extra guys, but that's why they were hired.

815
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: I love it when a plan comes together. Colonel John

816
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: Hannibal Smith. There, that's an a team reference, I believe

817
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: at the end, right, starting to come together. Listen again,

818
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: not a mona Lisa, right, but it's much better now

819
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 2: than it was September and MetLife Stadium.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I would say Broder Joe, it is probably

821
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 6: the top of that list. I think Frasier's be coming

822
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 6: back to more of a dominant player as opposed to

823
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 6: just he.

824
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 2: Had the best game of the season yesterday.

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Speaker 6: I think Falton, who's really understand the speed of the

826
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Speaker 6: game and what it's like to be a starter at

827
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Speaker 6: this level. And certainly Anderson, and to another degree, Washington,

828
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Speaker 6: I know he's a tight end.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely help. Now.

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Speaker 6: I don't mean to reign on the parade, but we

831
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Speaker 6: haven't seen the depth challenged, you know. I mean Anderson

832
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 6: would fill in a spot if a guard got hurt.

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Speaker 6: You'd feel comfortable about that.

834
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Speaker 3: But then you lose that side note, you know, like

835
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: that's a good point.

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Speaker 6: Nothing bad has happened to that group yet, you know,

837
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Speaker 6: and it probably will.

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Speaker 2: You're unfortunately correct in that assessment. I hope it doesn't.

839
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 2: Hopefully one of those outlier years. Let's gent them.

840
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: All to grow together, you know, and young talent players.

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Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt. Brad tweets it says, how about

842
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 2: a little love for Harmon this week? And how do

843
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,240
Speaker 2: you think? How do you think Benton and Cam looked.

844
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 2: I know their stats were limited, but that's not necessarily

845
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 2: an indicator of play. I think we gave some love

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00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 2: to Harmon. He's been. Yeah, he's been very active out stay.

847
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 2: He's been a much needed extra piece for that defensive

848
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 2: line since he returned from injury.

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Speaker 3: I think's exactly what you want to have.

850
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 6: A first round pick who's still getting his feet wet,

851
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 6: but he's contributing and not making mistakes, not hurting you

852
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 6: in any way.

853
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,720
Speaker 2: It's only played in three games in his career.

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00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, a big body in the middle that is very active,

855
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:27,360
Speaker 6: plays hard. I'm fine with it. I'd probably, to be honest,

856
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,959
Speaker 6: go back and watch Hayward and Benton.

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00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: A second time. I haven't been able to do that.

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00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 3: It's been a weird week.

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Speaker 6: But I didn't think that they were liabilities at all,

860
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 6: that's for sure.

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00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not working. I think they're properly slotted for.

862
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 6: Where they need to be in terms of what's being

863
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,800
Speaker 6: asked in rotation, snap counts, usage, all that good stuff.

864
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 6: So I think at the line's in a really good

865
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 6: point spot right now.

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Speaker 2: I think so too. I think they've figured out that rotation,

867
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 2: that usage. They've got different body types for Yeah, they've

868
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,840
Speaker 2: got a lot of square pegs for square holes and

869
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: round pegs for round holes.

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Speaker 3: And lack of neck wule or you fool as well?

871
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Matt tweets us and says, great win yesterday.

872
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 2: Can we start hyping Jalen Ramsey as a Defensive Player

873
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 2: of the Year candidate? He seems to make a game

874
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: altering play every game. I agree with the but that

875
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 2: might be a little It's very hard for a defensive

876
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 2: back to win Defensive Player of the Year. I know

877
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 2: Pat certain just did it last year, no doubt. But

878
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 2: you have to really have some interceing. And I know

879
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,919
Speaker 2: he's got a couple of interceptions, he's got a couple

880
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,560
Speaker 2: of sacks, all those things.

881
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 3: He's played at that level of his career.

882
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: He played at that level. It's just you've got to

883
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 2: really fill up the stat sheet to do it as

884
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 2: a defensive back.

885
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 6: I love throwing it out there, but that that's a

886
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 6: little rich for you know, the mid October Now, this

887
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 6: is what we're talking about.

888
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 3: But Miles Garrett's case has gotten the last two weeks.

889
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,880
Speaker 6: Sure, I think had a sack or two of their nine,

890
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 6: and so he's starting to grab a hold of this. Uh,

891
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 6: he's got to be the leader in the clubhouse right

892
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 6: now for Denver.

893
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: Seth tweets us and says I'm with you on that.

894
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 2: By the way, Seth says, great win for the Steelers.

895
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: Looking ahead to Thursday, Mike Tomlin two and nine in

896
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 2: road Thursday night games. Last win on a Thursday night

897
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 2: on the road was twenty sixteen in Indianapolis.

898
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

899
00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: I think that was one of the games where Ben

900
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 2: Roethlisberger just went nuts against the Colts a few times

901
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: in his career. Yeah, listen, this is.

902
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: Hey, that's real.

903
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's real, as real as the success out of

904
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 2: the bye week is. Yeah, struggles on the short week,

905
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 2: particularly on the road, I would point out I don't

906
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 2: think Mike Tomlin is alone in that.

907
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,719
Speaker 3: I would say, I don't think that's a unique that the.

908
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,959
Speaker 2: Numbers for teams going on the road on the short

909
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 2: week or not great across the NFL. But I think

910
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 2: this is a good week to get that move in

911
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 2: the right direction.

912
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

913
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 6: And I haven't seen the line, but I was told

914
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,560
Speaker 6: that they are a substantial favorite here on Monday. The

915
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 6: opening line, I want to say, it's like six and

916
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 6: a half or seven and a half something like that.

917
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 6: I mean, and since he's got a lot of problems

918
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 6: that I mean, it's a teaser for tomorrow.

919
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 3: I'm going to really dig into them.

920
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 2: Tomorrow is going to be since he heavy on the show.

921
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: They have issues and they are many. Last one here

922
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 2: a J tweets us a couple of quick hitters. Okay,

923
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 2: more than likely to happen before next season. Number one, uh,

924
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 2: Roger Jones is extended or Pat Fryermouth is traded.

925
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 3: I would say Jones extended is more likely.

926
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 2: I think so too. If he keeps doing what he's doing,

927
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 2: I think that's gonna don't want to be looking for

928
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: the same. I also want to keep everything you can

929
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: just fit your option. Maybe that's why you're saying that's

930
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:39,439
Speaker 2: what he meant.

931
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 3: That buys you another year to make that decision.

932
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,360
Speaker 2: Number two more likely to happen Steelers play in the

933
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 2: a f C Championship Game or Aaron Rodgers plays next season.

934
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 2: I think those are kind of tied together.

935
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,359
Speaker 3: Say one happens, I bet the other.

936
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 2: The Steelers are in the a FC Championship Game. I

937
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 2: bet you there's at least.

938
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 3: A Rodgers is more likely. Like he's having fun.

939
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: I know before the season started he said something along

940
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 2: the lines when he went on McAfee show. There at

941
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: Saint Vincent College when they had that crazy day with

942
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 2: the broadcast, he said something along the lines of like,

943
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 2: this is more than likely my last season, like how

944
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,800
Speaker 2: he said it, but he said a couple times throughout

945
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 2: this year now.

946
00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: Like hinted that she'll be consider will in Dublin.

947
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 2: He was like, can we come back here and do

948
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 2: this again next year? Yeah, yeah, things like that, Like so,

949
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 2: I don't think it's completely hard, more than likely to happen.

950
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 2: Steelers trade for a wide receiver number two, or they

951
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 2: draft a first round quarterback in twenty twenty six.

952
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 6: They both could happen. I'm still going to say that

953
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 6: they draft a quarterback.

954
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,799
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say I think that there's a great chance

955
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 2: that they draft the quarterback in the first round of

956
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, particularly because of how many first round

957
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: graded quarterbacks. I think they're going to be coming down

958
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: here in the draft those lines.

959
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,200
Speaker 6: This week isn't to do that because we were so condensed,

960
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 6: But the next week we got much back more.

961
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,399
Speaker 2: Into one hundred percent Matt Williamson. We're also gonna get

962
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: more into some of that overview stuff that you did

963
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 2: of turnover differential sacked differential explosive play differential uh next

964
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 2: week when we have some more time to kill as well,

965
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,760
Speaker 2: But that will do it for us for today. Thanks

966
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: to Rob King for joining us, big shout out to

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00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: our video producer Tyler v Mister TV for keeping us

968
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 2: handsome on the YouTube, and a big thank you to

969
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 2: Lim Magnefik Matt Williamson. I'm gonna, I'm gonna continue to

970
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: try and work in the Mario Lemu themed nicknames there.

971
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 2: That'll do it for us today. We'll be back tomorrow

972
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: with plenty on the Bengals as we continue to navigate

973
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: this short week. Take care everybody, and we will talk

974
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 2: to you soon. It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

975
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,600
Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.