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Speaker 3: part here with Anthony Aguilar.

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Speaker 2: So GJF whistleblower former Greenbray Anthony Aguilar, who we had

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Speaker 2: on this show, just recorded another interview with Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 2: It was in person, It was longer than the first

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Speaker 2: portion that he put out. I really recommend you go

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Speaker 2: and listen to it. He reveals a lot of stunning things.

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Speaker 2: He also just has so much experience in the field.

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Speaker 2: The way he can describe the issues that he saw

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Speaker 2: there to me was quite striking. But one of the

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Speaker 2: pieces that I think need to be explored more is

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Speaker 2: what GHF is. Who is this leader, quote unquote Reverend

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Speaker 2: Johnny Moore, evangelical leader and entrepreneur, who's at the head

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Speaker 2: of it? Where has the funding been coming from? There

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Speaker 2: are just so many basic questions around GHF and what

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Speaker 4: He gets into some of that with Tucker. Let's go

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Speaker 4: ahead and take a listen.

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Speaker 5: God's a humanitarian foundation. With Johnny Moore, who you know,

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Speaker 5: if he wants to say that that I am a liar,

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Speaker 5: I think that that's that you're a liar. He has

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Speaker 5: said that I'm a liar, and that's that's unfortunate because

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Speaker 5: I served in the army for twenty five years, answered

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Speaker 5: the call not just once, twice, three, four times, but

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Speaker 5: twelve to fight in battle for the ideals of this nation.

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Speaker 5: So for him to call me a liar, I think

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Speaker 5: that all veterans and all Americans should take pause and

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Speaker 5: think about who's calling me a liar? Someone that has

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Speaker 5: spent his entire life self serving with PR firms and

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Speaker 5: selling Bibles and whatever else it is he does on

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Speaker 5: the side. So what's interesting is that this entire time

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Speaker 5: that this operation has been going on now for operating

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Speaker 5: since the twenty sixth of May till now, so breaking

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Speaker 5: seventy days, he's only been there one time.

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Speaker 1: For a photo op.

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Speaker 5: I find it appalling.

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Speaker 6: He doesn't work out of Gaza.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely not.

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Speaker 6: I should say we put in three interview requests for

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Speaker 6: Johnny Moore.

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Speaker 1: He's not even an Israel.

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Speaker 6: So how is he running the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.

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Speaker 5: From his flat in Virginia. I guess what it feels

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Speaker 5: like to me is that the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is

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Speaker 5: a side project resume item for mister Johnny Moore. It's

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Speaker 5: not something that he's dedicated to, and it's not something

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Speaker 5: that he has the expertise and the acumen to understand

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Speaker 6: Does he have any background in distributing humanitarian relief that

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Speaker 5: No, it's so many things that the experts within the

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Speaker 5: So to think that we can just take that on

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Speaker 2: And one of the things that he said in that

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Speaker 2: they asked the same thing. So now there's been thirty

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Speaker 2: million dollars in the State Department that has gone in.

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Speaker 2: That's all we know of the funding. Johnny Moore, who

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Speaker 2: asked about the funding, refused to reveal what the sources

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Speaker 1: Government, which they've now acknowledged is not even true.

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Speaker 2: But yes, yeah, and so and Tony. What he tested

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Speaker 2: So you have American mercenaries with zero legal protection coming

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Speaker 2: Which another extraordinary part here is he talks about how

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is apps.

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Speaker 3: So that part increasingly, I remember it struck me in

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Speaker 3: our interview. I was like, what you're on a tourist

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Speaker 3: What did he say? He was like a j one

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Speaker 3: was in his uniform. They had American flag patches that

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Speaker 3: were put on them. He's not an American soldier. It's like,

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Speaker 3: what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Wanted them intentionally to look like and it was the

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Speaker 2: Israeli So you insisted on the American flag on the

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Speaker 2: fake military.

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Speaker 1: So they're flagging them.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're basically trying to dress them up in

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Speaker 3: he talked previously about the IDF being the client. You know,

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Speaker 3: that was one of the revelations that came out of that.

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Speaker 3: I think this is a very important interview for people

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Speaker 3: to just understand how absolutely insane it is, and especially

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Speaker 3: as we continue to talk about Israel occupying Gaza. Trump

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Speaker 3: gave the green light yesterday's Israel can do whatever it

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Speaker 3: wants to do. It'll be up to them. It's like, well,

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Speaker 3: this is what it looks like when it's up to them. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: this is what it all looks like.

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Speaker 2: Well, and not to mention, go ahead and put C

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Speaker 2: four up on the screen. So Bezalel Smotrich Sho was

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Speaker 2: was so outraged by it that he was extracting concessions

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Speaker 2: plan to go forward. He's now done one and says, well, actually,

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Speaker 2: I now understand that the quote unquote Gkaza Humanitarian Foundation,

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Speaker 2: this isn't about feeding the population, he says, quote, it's

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Speaker 2: not money for humanitarian aid.

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Speaker 4: It's money for winning the war.

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Speaker 2: Had we controlled the humanitarian aid to Gaza, we would

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Speaker 2: have won the war a while ago. This fits directly

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Speaker 2: with what Aguilar has been attesting to, which is that

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Speaker 2: this is not an aid operation. This is a shaping operation,

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Speaker 2: and these are designed intentionally as death traps to lure

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Speaker 2: people in, to control them, to force them into you know,

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Speaker 2: dangerous situations. I mean, of course we know about the

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Speaker 2: outright massacres that are occurring on a your daily basis

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Speaker 2: in the contract in the context of the so called

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Speaker 2: distribution of aid. But this is all about pulling and

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Speaker 2: pushing the population and controlling them. That's what this is,

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Speaker 2: and that's what Smotrich is just saying now out in

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Speaker 2: the open. Oh you know, actually, now I get it.

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Speaker 2: This isn't money for humanitarian assistance. This is money to.

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Speaker 4: Win the war.

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Speaker 2: So that's what they're saying, which again wholly and completely

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Speaker 2: backs up what Anthony Aguilar saw when he was on

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Speaker 2: the ground. He also made a really interesting comment about

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Speaker 2: what he thinks is likely to happen. And again remember

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Speaker 2: former Green Beret served twelve different tours of duty, nine

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Speaker 2: combat tours, like has seen everything you can see in

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many countries around the world, and

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Speaker 2: he says they need to think about Okay, there's a

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Speaker 2: difference between when you're in an offensive military position verse

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Speaker 2: is when you are in a permanent occupation, and what

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Speaker 2: you're likely to see once you shift to permanent occupation

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Speaker 2: is actually much more violence, much more of the gorilla warfare,

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Speaker 2: and that that's exactly what happened in Iraq that he

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Speaker 2: experienced directly. Let's go ahead and take a listen to

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Speaker 2: what he had to.

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Speaker 4: Say about that.

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Speaker 5: In the coming days and weeks, as this operation, as

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Speaker 5: Operation Gideon's Chariots, has ended and the Israeli Army has

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Speaker 5: to refit into this restructuring for occupation, which is a

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Speaker 5: really nasty. That's when things get really gray. We think

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Speaker 5: that things are complicated and complex. Now wait until you

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Speaker 5: So right now, if I were Hamas while the active

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Speaker 5: want to come out and get killed. When the occupation begins,

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Speaker 5: that's when the insurgency presents itself in armed violence.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's when you have a permanent basis.

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Speaker 5: It's going to get violent, and it's going to get deadly,

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Speaker 5: and as the well, more deadly. And if the United

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Speaker 5: what's not, no longer can we have this idf do

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Speaker 5: back up. No, we cannot. The President of the United

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Speaker 5: States needs to set clear, firm expectations and boundaries with

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Speaker 5: our ally because this occupation two things will happen. One,

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Speaker 5: it's going to become extremely violent, grotesquely violent. Markava Tank's

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Speaker 5: being blown up on the Sala Dean Road going into Gaza.

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Speaker 5: The Israelis won't like it. But then also when forces

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Speaker 5: It's going to bring the world to its knees. And

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Speaker 5: it's not going to be a year from now, it's

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Speaker 5: not going to be months from now, days from now.

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Speaker 2: It's going to bring the world to its knees, is

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Speaker 2: what he says. And you know the point he makes

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Speaker 2: that's likely to spike, it's incredibly obvious.

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Speaker 4: It just had It wasn't something that I.

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Speaker 2: Had really thought through as a civilian, but of course

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Speaker 2: that would follow the pattern of past invasions that we've

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Speaker 2: seen unfold.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is true.

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, part of the reason why I'm not

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Speaker 3: so sure is that the Israelis have never behaved this

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Speaker 3: just have determined that starvation and mass bombing is easier.

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Speaker 3: So when they say occupation, is it going to be

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Speaker 3: the type of occupation that a normal Western army would pursue,

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Speaker 3: or would it just be complete mass expulsion of from

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Speaker 3: whatever area they're so called occupying.

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Speaker 1: I think that's part of the problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and just to be clear, there are I mean,

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Speaker 4: And the fact that we've gotten these.

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Speaker 2: you know, Trump certainly doesn't seem he embraces it. You know,

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Speaker 3: Yep, it's not good tomorrow. Yeah, as you said, we'll cover.

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Speaker 3: So there's some great Bill Ackman posting where Ryan got

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Speaker 1: Ryan's so good, Ryan is. We can agree certainly on that.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Trump's.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to ask you about drones. You know, we

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Speaker 8: Well, I know who. I can't tell you who it

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Speaker 8: I'd love to tell you actually, but it's not a

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Speaker 1: It's not something frightening.

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Speaker 8: No, but I just you know, so obviously it's something

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Speaker 9: It was legal.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, that was legal.

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Speaker 3: Well, the UFO people are mad because, you know, here's

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Speaker 7: Strange objects of a New Jersey were drones.

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Speaker 6: I still have a lot of questions around.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, you know, I've heard, I've heard what the public

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Speaker 3: Oh really, Yeah, happened in different parts of the country.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't just New Jersey. I mean, you'll remember we covered

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Speaker 1: The drones, whatever they were.

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Speaker 3: Then eventually came out from Trump and what did he say.

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Speaker 1: We couldn't just tell you. I don't believe that for

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Speaker 3: There was also what was it an Iranian mothership was

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Speaker 1: If you put that all together, we still have no idea.

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Speaker 1: It is theoretically possible.

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Speaker 3: I remained deeply skeptical just because again of the way

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Speaker 3: Also just in the way that the drone, whatever the objects,

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Speaker 1: It remains one of.

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Speaker 3: The craziest episodes I think, you know, in more recent

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Speaker 9: What do you think?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and to your point about winking at the internet,

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Speaker 2: you know with Epstein, specifically with Trump, it was more

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Speaker 4: He was explicit, Yeah, I know.

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Speaker 2: I've pulled up the quote from twenty twenty four Lex

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Speaker 4: I would do that. I'd love to do that. I

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Speaker 2: So this isn't one where he was kind of people

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Speaker 2: so here we are in August of twenty twenty five

439
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Speaker 2: and August seventh of twenty twenty five, and now it's well,

440
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Speaker 2: I can't tell you, but trust me, there's nothing to

441
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Speaker 2: worry about here.

442
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Speaker 3: I mean one of RFK Junior's advice. Do you remember

443
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Speaker 3: Bob Malone. He was on the RFK podcast or sorry,

444
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Speaker 3: on the Joe Rogan podcast. He's the guy died in

445
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Speaker 3: the mass psychost that the inventor of m R N

446
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Speaker 3: A whatever. All right, So he's he's a I believe

447
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 3: he was appointed to a position by RFK Junior. So

448
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Speaker 3: he recently said on a podcast that RFK Junior had

449
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Speaker 3: quote received a classified briefing on UFO's UAPs and whether

450
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Speaker 3: they could be interdimensional beings or time travelers. Malone said

451
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Speaker 3: that a federal investigator told him quote alien encounters are

452
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Speaker 3: ramping up and confirms that they are real. You listen,

453
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Speaker 3: you can you know, I don't know whether that's true

454
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Speaker 3: or not. RFK Junior has come out, he has himself.

455
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Speaker 3: You know, we could take a look at his credibility,

456
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Speaker 3: but he's definitely somebody who was in the room on

457
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Speaker 3: the issue, and if I put it together with the

458
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Speaker 3: public comments, it still remains one of total mystery, just

459
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Speaker 3: in the way that it has. They ran on the issue,

460
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Speaker 3: they said they would release it. There has not been

461
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Speaker 3: one thing that has been released yet. We got the

462
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Speaker 3: MLK files before we got the UFO and the upside.

463
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Speaker 1: So we're all aware.

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Speaker 3: And there is still you know, quite a lot of

465
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Speaker 3: movement at the whistleblower and other level inside of Congress.

466
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Speaker 3: There has been multiple pieces now of legislation. We're just

467
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Speaker 3: supposed to compel the Pentagon. By the way, I've been

468
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Speaker 3: checking up on this, so I haven't heard yet whether

469
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Speaker 3: Pete Hagsat or anyone on their team is doing really

470
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Speaker 3: much on the UFO issue.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that.

472
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Speaker 3: And you have to dig deep on this stuff, as

473
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Speaker 3: we're all showing, you know, with the Epstein files, it

474
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 3: took hundreds of FBI agents weeks if not months to

475
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Speaker 3: compile all this stuff from everywhere, and then apparently they

476
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Speaker 3: were finding things in different areas.

477
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Speaker 1: That's what they're claiming.

478
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Speaker 3: About Russia Gate too, and that's you know, surface level

479
00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 3: political scandal. So just imagine on this particular issue. But anyway,

480
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Speaker 3: I mean I think it's an issue for transparency. The

481
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Speaker 3: Vice President recently was on a podcast talking about it

482
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Speaker 3: as well.

483
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Speaker 1: Here's what he had to say.

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Speaker 11: There are stories that I am particularly focused on, in

485
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Speaker 11: part just because you talk with your buddies about it. Like,

486
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Speaker 11: I'm obsessed with the whole UFO thing. What's actually going on?

487
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Speaker 11: What were those videos all about? What's actually happening. I

488
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Speaker 11: haven't gotten to the bottom of yet, but what only

489
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Speaker 11: six months is it's.

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Speaker 9: Been very busy.

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Speaker 11: Actually, the August recess is in part me going to

492
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Speaker 11: try to dive to the bottom of the whole UFO

493
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Speaker 11: tho oh yeah, past year.

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Speaker 6: So I mean you got to have us back, Okay,

495
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Speaker 6: I'll I'll let you know.

496
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Speaker 3: So will we ever hear about it again? I'm still

497
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Speaker 3: you know, it remain a bit skeptical. One of the

498
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Speaker 3: reasons why. And I've talked about this before. John Podesta,

499
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Speaker 3: who was the White House Chief of Staff under Bill Clinton,

500
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Speaker 3: huge UFO guy. He actually tried to figure out. He

501
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Speaker 3: writes about it in his book. Basically at every turn

502
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 3: they were like, don't worry about it. And Bill Clinton,

503
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Speaker 3: he even said it himself. Bill Clinton was like.

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Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed. I tried to find out and they basically

505
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Speaker 1: didn't tell me what was going on.

506
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Speaker 3: Yeah, learning this well, I don't do it very often.

507
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Speaker 3: It's you know, we're not on the nineties. Imagine if

508
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Speaker 3: we were broadcasting on the Lewinsky He's like.

509
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Speaker 1: Oh, Embers, I couldn't find what was going on. But

510
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Speaker 1: that's what he said. Obama remember in his interview on

511
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Speaker 1: and he was like.

512
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Speaker 3: Well, I can't tell you, you know, in terms of what

513
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Speaker 3: he had to say about the issue. And now we

514
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Speaker 3: have Trump and basically every successive person, even the vice president,

515
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Speaker 3: top level political appointees. You genuinely do need like a

516
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Speaker 3: strike team of people. Plus you need more people in

517
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Speaker 3: the government to come forward.

518
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Speaker 2: I like Tulsa's my favorite. She's literally the director of

519
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Speaker 2: National Inteligence and she's like, I still have.

520
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Speaker 1: A lot of questions. I hate when we do that.

521
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Speaker 2: See it pisses me out too, because now you have

522
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Speaker 2: a comment. This is so common, not just the Trump administration,

523
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Speaker 2: with all sorts of politicians who oh gosh, I wish

524
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Speaker 2: someone in power would do something. This is your freaking job,

525
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: Like what are you talking about? You still have good

526
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Speaker 2: then go ask the questions, Go get the answers, that's

527
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Speaker 2: the whole reason you were supposed to be put in there,

528
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Speaker 2: And yet there she is just playing helpless like she

529
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Speaker 2: has no power, no ability to do anything, which maybe

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Speaker 2: she doesn't.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, but if she doesn't, then she should

532
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Speaker 4: admit that too.

533
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Speaker 3: I was going to say, though she remembers she said

534
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Speaker 3: that about the Epstein thing as well, whenever. I think

535
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Speaker 3: it was Charlie spearing shout out who asked her. He's like,

536
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Speaker 3: do you have any information that Epstein is an intelligence asset?

537
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Speaker 1: And she's like, well, I haven't seen.

538
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Speaker 3: Anything like that. It's like, well, have you looked for it?

539
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Speaker 3: You know, have anybody asked that?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know anything. It's like I haven't looked

541
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Speaker 4: looked for.

542
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Speaker 1: It and look for right.

543
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Speaker 3: It's like, well, yeah, you're not going to know unless

544
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Speaker 3: you try to look for it.

545
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Speaker 1: And yeah, anyway, I mean, if you.

546
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Speaker 3: Just look at the history and the way that they're

547
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: all talking about the issue, they're winking, they're nodding, and

548
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Speaker 3: I don't know whether it's to drive up Actually I

549
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: don't think so, because they are not volunteering the information.

550
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,200
Speaker 3: It's Miranda Devine who pressed on two of them, both

551
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Speaker 3: of them basically gave cover up. Like answers, JD has

552
00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 3: always had kind of an interest in the UFO issue.

553
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Speaker 1: But also we have to be honest.

554
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Speaker 3: It's like the Vice President doesn't have the power, Like

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Speaker 3: you need a full on commitment from the DNI, from

556
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Speaker 3: the you know, from the sec def.

557
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Speaker 1: You know, who knows what Pete Heggstath has going.

558
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Speaker 3: On in his building right now? Would his generals even

559
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Speaker 3: tell him the truth? I do not have any confidence

560
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Speaker 3: basically in the way that he is running his building

561
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Speaker 3: right now.

562
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Speaker 1: Problem.

563
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got way problems in terms of how he's

564
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Speaker 3: operating inside. So anyway, I think that's that's really all we,

565
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Speaker 3: unfortunately have. I would ask, you know, people in the

566
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Speaker 3: White House and others if you do have public.

567
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Speaker 1: Pressure or you know, future hearings things like that.

568
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Speaker 3: I know that there's some rumbling about that, but almost

569
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Speaker 3: all of them really been stopped in their tracks. And

570
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Speaker 3: there are well meaning people in Congress who have been

571
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 3: trying on the issue, but an individual member of Congress,

572
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Speaker 3: as we've shown repeatedly, they have no little.

573
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Speaker 1: Power yet very little you know.

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Speaker 2: You know what I think they should do soccer if

575
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Speaker 2: they really want to put this to bed what. I

576
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 2: think they should issue a two page memo says there's

577
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 2: nothing to see here.

578
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 1: They've done it close. They already put on.

579
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Speaker 4: A video and that they claim is raw.

580
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:23,440
Speaker 2: Footage but is actually highly edited and missing key portions

581
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Speaker 2: of the video and lie about that as well.

582
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 4: I think that will really tamp down part.

583
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Speaker 3: What you're describing is literally what they have done on

584
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: the UFO issue. They did that before with the Pentagon.

585
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 3: Remember the headline. They do it every time, no evidence

586
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 3: of aliens. It's like, well, there's no evidence, is not

587
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 3: there's no evidence of what the fuck it is? All right,

588
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 3: It's just like, so you can't tell us what it is.

589
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 3: And they're like, well, there's fourteen incidents or whatever, which

590
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 3: we can't explain in any way whatsoever. But there's no

591
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,439
Speaker 3: evidence that it's aliens. And it's like, well, what is

592
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 3: the evidence of what it is? Finally, God, what is

593
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 3: the name of the James Fox documentary? I always want

594
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,440
Speaker 3: people to watch this one? Is it Moment of contact?

595
00:27:58,640 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: Is? I think that's what it's called.

596
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,800
Speaker 4: Moment of contact?

597
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah?

598
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 3: If I dare you to watch that and not believe

599
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 3: in UFOs.

600
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Speaker 1: I dare you.

601
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 4: That's the one about Brazil.

602
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, the Bristlle Barginia. I'm serious.

603
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 3: You have if you cannot watch it and tell me

604
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 3: the UFOs are not really you can't.

605
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: You can't, all right?

606
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: And then he's got multiple follow ups, the phenomenon, so

607
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,679
Speaker 3: many others. All of James's films are absolutely incredible. So

608
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: that's my last blog. Go ahead and watch it for

609
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Speaker 3: yourself and you make up your mind.

610
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Speaker 1: Crystel, what are you taking a look at?

611
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Speaker 9: Wow?

612
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Speaker 1: I haven't said that on a lone well.

613
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Speaker 2: In a Senate that is full of amoral, psychopathic monsters,

614
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Speaker 2: it can be difficult to choose among the various odious

615
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 2: figures who should truly reach the s tier of villainy.

616
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Speaker 2: You've got your proudly genocidal types like John Fetterman, You've

617
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Speaker 2: got your islamophobic pro crypto cellounce like Kirsten Gillibrand. But

618
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Speaker 2: in terms of the Democratic Caucus, at least in my

619
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Speaker 2: humble opinion, Corey Booker is the worst.

620
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Speaker 4: He is just the fucking worst.

621
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Speaker 2: Booker combines theatrical, vacuous preening with corporate slavishness with moral

622
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: horrors for a total package that is thoroughly and completely repugnant. Please,

623
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 2: for the love of God, someone decent primary this man.

624
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Speaker 4: So the problem is with Corey Booker. Of course, they're

625
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 4: nothing new.

626
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 2: Actually attended a wedding that he officiated once, and I

627
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: swear to God, the first maybe twenty minutes of the

628
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 2: ceremony he spent describing his own personal faith journey. Leave

629
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Speaker 2: it to Corey Booker to make a wedding about himself

630
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 2: instead of I don't know, maybe the bride and groom.

631
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Speaker 2: I'm also old enough to remember when Booker went on

632
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Speaker 2: Meet the Press as a top Obama surrogate to decry

633
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Speaker 2: that campaign's attacks on Mitt Romney's Bane Capital private equity record.

634
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Speaker 4: This was really something.

635
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Speaker 12: As far as that stuff, I have to just say

636
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Speaker 12: from a very personal level, I'm not about to sit

637
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 12: here and indict private equity. It's to me, it's just

638
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,040
Speaker 12: as we're getting to a ridiculous point in America, especially

639
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Speaker 12: that I know I live in a state where pension funds,

640
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 12: unions and other people are investing in companies like Baying Capital.

641
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 12: If you look at the totality of Bane Capital's record,

642
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 12: they've done a lot to s support businesses, to grow businesses,

643
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 12: and this to me I'm very uncomfortable. This kind of

644
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 12: stuff is nauseating to me on both sides. It's nauseating

645
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 12: to the American public. Enough is enough. Stop attacking private equity,

646
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 12: Stop attacking Jeremiah Wright. This stuff has got to stop

647
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Speaker 12: because what it does is it undermines to me what

648
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 12: this country should be focused on. It's a distraction from

649
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 12: the real issues. It's either going to be a small

650
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 12: campaign about this crap, or it's going to be a

651
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 12: big campaign, in my opinion, about the issues that American

652
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Speaker 12: public cares about.

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Speaker 4: Nauseating.

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Speaker 2: Okay, The Obama campaign and Democratic base backlash against Corey

655
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Speaker 2: Booker was swift after those comments. I remember a sweaty,

656
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Speaker 2: nervous Rachel Meadow interview he did in the aftermath of

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00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: those comments to try to clean it up, but he

658
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 2: never really fully recanted. It was a very revealing episode

659
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 2: because it broadcasts that he was willing to take the

660
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: heat even against Obama, the most beloved figure in the

661
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: Democratic Party, in order to defend the honor of capital.

662
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: His mentality is donor first through and through, but wrapped

663
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: in a shot eveneer of supposed progressivism. Booker's not stupid,

664
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: though unlike some of his duller compatriots who thought that

665
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 2: there was political advantage to be gained from playing foot

666
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: seat with Magga, like let's say Gavin Newsom having Charlie

667
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: Kirkinsky Bannon on his podcast, or all of the Doge

668
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 2: Caucus people. Booker recognized pretty quickly in Trump two point

669
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 2: zero that the Democratic base was desperate for figures who

670
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 2: would stand up and fight the Trump administration.

671
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 4: So what a Corey Booker do?

672
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,720
Speaker 2: Well, He's strapped on an adult diaper and took to

673
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: the floor of the Senate for an epic filibuster, boldly

674
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 2: speaking truth to power for hour after hour after hour,

675
00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: excoriating the Trump administration, promising to fight their power grab

676
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: at every turn, eventually breaking the record for the longest

677
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 2: ever floor speech.

678
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:42,959
Speaker 4: Maybe we thought this man has turned a page.

679
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 2: Maybe he's decided to rise the historical moment to put

680
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 2: grassroots democracy over donor driven capitulation. But even in this

681
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 2: speech marathon, the red flags were pretty clear. First of all,

682
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: it wasn't actually a filibuster, as it wasn't blocking any

683
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: actual action. Second, he used some of his time to

684
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 2: embrace Abundance, the big money back neoliberal rebrand dedicated to

685
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: putting a glossy machine on status quo politics. Finally, he

686
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 2: swiftly moved from declaring all out war on the Trump

687
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 2: administration to voting to confirm justice involved person and Trump

688
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: family relative Charles Kushner as ambassador to France, demonstrating just

689
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 2: how committed Booker really is to actually fighting Trump administration

690
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: nepotism and thuggery. The Kushner vote was particularly egregious given

691
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 2: that he was convicted of some pretty wild crimes in

692
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: Booker's own home state of New Jersey.

693
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 4: You guys can go and look that one up.

694
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: In fact, only a handful of Senate Democrats have supported

695
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: more Trump nominees than Corey Booker has. The man who

696
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 2: theatrically pledged to fight the Trump administration relentlessly, Booker is

697
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 2: apparently all resistance in the streets but capitulation in the sheets.

698
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 2: The dude is also utterly shameless too. When the Newark

699
00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: mayor and New Jersey congressional members were arrested attempting to

700
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: examine an ice attention facility, Booker, of course nowhere to

701
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: be found, and when other members were flying to a

702
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: Salvador to demand the release of innocence from a slave

703
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 2: labor camp. Booker was reported to be planning a trip,

704
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: but seemingly quashed it when Hakeem Jeffreys told Democrats that

705
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 2: they needed to back off the case. So while substantive

706
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: action has ranged from non existent to outright complicit, theatrics

707
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 2: have certainly continued. Most recently, Booker got into an intentionally

708
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: noisy spat with Senator Amy Klobashar. Apparently Booker was looking

709
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 2: to grandstand over some provisional policing bill. Clobashar was pissed

710
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: off and disgusted with this little performance because he actually

711
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 2: couldn't be bothered to show up for the committee vote

712
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: when said provision was actually being discussed and voted on.

713
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 2: So here is the snippet of Booker's outburst.

714
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 12: I was just called out by name, and I want

715
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 12: to respond.

716
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 9: I don't need.

717
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 12: Somebody implying in any way that this is not vital

718
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 12: to me and my state, that we have resources for

719
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 12: our police officers. But what I am tired of is

720
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 12: when the President of the United States of America violates

721
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 12: the constitution, trash norms and traditions, and what does a

722
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 12: Democratic party do comply allow him beg for scraps no,

723
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 12: I demand justice. It's time for Democrats have a backbone.

724
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,879
Speaker 12: It's time for us to fight, It's time for us.

725
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 9: To draw lines.

726
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,640
Speaker 12: And when it comes to the safety of my state

727
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 12: being denied these grants, That's why I'm standing here. Don't

728
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 12: question my integrity, don't question my motives. I'm standing for Jersey.

729
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 12: I am standing for my police officers. I'm standing for

730
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 12: the Constitution, and I'm standing for what's right.

731
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 2: Standing for what's right. You say, well, it will surprise

732
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 2: no one to learn that shortly after this tortive force

733
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 2: of moral preening, I believe, in front of an empty chamber,

734
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: by the way, Booker would once again vote to ship

735
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 2: offensive weapons to Israel so they can continue their campaign

736
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: of terror against starving Palestinian children. What clarity, what courage,

737
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 2: what incredible moral leadership, And truly it is with israe

738
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: genocide in Gaza where Booker has reached his final, most

739
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 2: despicable form. It will not surprise you to learn that

740
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: he is a top recipient of Israel lobby funds, and

741
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 2: he votes and acts accordingly. In seemingly every instance. He's

742
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: been enthusiastic in efforts to criminalize criticism and boycotts of Israel.

743
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,880
Speaker 4: He goes that extra.

744
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 2: Mile by attending APAC policy conferences. He even gushed in

745
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 2: leaked audio about how he texts back and forth with

746
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: APA's president like there are a couple of teenagers par

747
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 2: for the course. I guess for someone with an apparent

748
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:35,280
Speaker 2: multi decade close friendship with the utterly reprehensible Rabbi Schmooley.

749
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: Here they are together or sing around at a poor

750
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: un party at Oxford in nineteen ninety three. By all accounts,

751
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: the two were extremely close friends for decades, falling out

752
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 2: according to Booker over Schmooley being so self promoting that

753
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: even Corey Booker couldn't quite take it. I guess the

754
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,320
Speaker 2: man does have some limits, apparently, but Booker's ironclad commitment

755
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 2: to Israel has outlasted his Schmooley romance. In fact, perhaps

756
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 2: nothing so accurately Encapsuley. It's the futrid essence of Corey Booker,

757
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: as this photo with wanted war criminal Benjamin Netnahoo back

758
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 2: when he was in town just a.

759
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,799
Speaker 4: Few weeks ago. Corey has the intellect to.

760
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 2: Know a photo op with baby probably a bad look

761
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 2: while babies are literally being starved, So he hides his face,

762
00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,520
Speaker 2: but he lacks the integrity to actually buck his donors.

763
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 2: So there Corey is in the photo, lamely trying to

764
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 2: hide behind someone. Now he claims the photographer positioned him

765
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 2: this way. Okay, Now it goes without saying. You'd be

766
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: hard pressed to identify a more monstrous and destructive figure

767
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,800
Speaker 2: in the entire world than net Yahoo.

768
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 4: And yet here is self.

769
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: Anointed moral warrior, Corey Booker meeting with modern day Hitler

770
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: so he can hear the latest Hospara talking points about

771
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:49,240
Speaker 2: how children with pre existing conditions don't really count as starving,

772
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 2: or how American Jews voting for Zoran are actually Hamas.

773
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 2: Speaking of Zoran, Guess who refuses to get behind the

774
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: Democratic nominee for New York City in spite of a

775
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: resounding twelve point five victory. You guessed it, mister courageus

776
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:03,840
Speaker 2: himself Corey Booker.

777
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 1: Mom, Donnie, are you going to support him?

778
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 13: I have learned a long time ago. Let New York

779
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 13: politics be New York politics. We got enough challenges in Jersey.

780
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 13: I got a governor's race. I'm supporting mikey Cheryl, I

781
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 13: got legislative races. That's where my energy's going to go

782
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 13: going into November. New York City. I love you, You're

783
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 13: my neighbor. You're about ten miles from where I live.

784
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 13: You guys figure out your elections. I'm going to focus

785
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 13: on mine.

786
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 2: Would you be surprised if I informed you that his

787
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: don't endorse in New York rule is not some consistent

788
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: Booker anti medaling policy. In fact, for years, Corey Booker

789
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: ran a pack that endorsed Democrats in races across the country,

790
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 2: and he currently sits on the board of the Pack

791
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,840
Speaker 2: Democrats for Education Reform, a group founded by billionaire and

792
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,799
Speaker 2: former mayoral candidate Whitney Tilson and which endorses candidates who

793
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 2: are against teachers' unions and generally in favor of charter schools.

794
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: He's got no problem endorsing candidates in New York or

795
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: in any other state, by the way, he just doesn't

796
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 2: want to support this particular candidate's delight at texting like

797
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: a teenager with Apak and his close association with billionaire

798
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: design as Whitney Tilson, who made his whole mayoral campaign

799
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 2: about Israel. I think we all know why the supposed

800
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 2: progressive just can't bring himself to support the progressive Democratic

801
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: nominee for mayor. To top off all the self congratulation

802
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,479
Speaker 2: and cash grab and really wrap it all in a bow.

803
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 2: Booker has decided to turn his twenty five hour speech

804
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: into a book called Stand. On the publisher's website, they

805
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: describe Stand as quote a celebration of the Americans who

806
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,879
Speaker 2: chose to get up in the face of injustice, who

807
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 2: championed the uniquely American values central to making our nation

808
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,720
Speaker 2: a more perfect union despite seemingly insurmountable obstacles. It's also,

809
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 2: they say, a guide for today. Leadership is not derived

810
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: from position or title. It comes from action, an example, action,

811
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: an example. Really, Booker's actions have been grandstanding. His example

812
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: has been support for a genocide, co opting progressive language

813
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 2: to run cover for a row ethno state. For these

814
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:05,319
Speaker 2: reasons and so many more, I do hereby declear that

815
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 2: Corey Booker is just the fucking worst. Watching him out

816
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 2: there still doing his little I'm glad you're fascination moral

817
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 2: preening and then turning right around and voting for an

818
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: offensive weapons package to Israel, You've got to be kidding.

819
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: Well, remember his his big filibuster. I mean this is

820
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 3: this is the problem with these guys. This is what

821
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: they're all about. And if you just scratch the surface

822
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 3: a little bit, it's like the pro is I mean, listen,

823
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 3: obviously I know the pros real thing that's big for

824
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 3: the left, But look at the money stuff that goes

825
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: back now for decades, like with his.

826
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 2: Private equity that long time Corey Booker.

827
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 3: Haters yah for the but it's it shows people that

828
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,839
Speaker 3: is what it takes, the superficiality to be beloved by

829
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: the media as some sort of democratic star.

830
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: Or at least was for years.

831
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 10: Yeah.

832
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: Well, hoping there's a corrective.

833
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 2: Here's the thing with that Booker exposes. It's it's not

834
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 2: an accident that the very same people who would be

835
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 2: the type to.

836
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 4: Go on be like these attacks on pain capital.

837
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 2: I just can't are the same people who would be

838
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,280
Speaker 2: voting still to send offensive weapons to Israel.

839
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 4: Like, they are the same people.

840
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: And the reason is because they put donors first, and

841
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: so wherever the most amount of money is for campaign contributions,

842
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 2: that's where their positions are going to align.

843
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 4: And so Corey Booker.

844
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 2: I don't know that it was his unique innovation, but

845
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 2: he follows the model of he really wants to position

846
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 2: himself as like he's some sort of progressive. But then

847
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: if you scratch underneath the surface and you see, oh, well,

848
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: when the progressive values don't align with what the donors want,

849
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: which direction do you go?

850
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, we know, that's that's very true. Yeah. Yeah,

851
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: And somehow his veganism.

852
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,959
Speaker 3: Also fits into this, like the personal I'm just saying,

853
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,600
Speaker 3: it's like, for me, there's something about the pro Israel vegan,

854
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 3: like that is a guy and specifically it just fits

855
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 3: with Corey Booker.

856
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: So I don't know what that is.

857
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: That's an interesting point.

858
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 3: Well, it's about the person, you know, like if you're vegan,

859
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 3: which I mean there's not really a health reason to

860
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 3: be vegan, but like, if you want to be vegan,

861
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: a lot of it is about like stop stopping the

862
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 3: suffering of the world and all of that, right, And

863
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:12,280
Speaker 3: so then you know, to be pro Israel, especially now today,

864
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 3: and supposedly progressive on top of that, like that just fits.

865
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

866
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, you won't slaughter a cow, but you'll allow

867
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,440
Speaker 2: you know, you wanted thousands of babies to be you.

868
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: Won't even know, eat cow based products, milk or anything.

869
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,360
Speaker 2: But yeah, exactly will you slaughter a red halfer? So

870
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 2: we'll get Ryan on.

871
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: I'll eat a half for a burger. Somebody said it,

872
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: I'll eat it.

873
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Speaker 6: I'll eat it today.

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Speaker 1: Is that sacrilegious? I'm not sure. For for Hindus, I

875
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Speaker 1: guess it is for Jews, I don't yeah true. All right, okay, guys,

876
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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 4: Let's get to Chrystinals.

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Speaker 2: So, as you guys likely know, the Freedom Flotilla coalition

879
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Speaker 2: has been trying to break the siege in Gaza. They've

880
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Speaker 2: sent a number of ships. At this point, one had

881
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Speaker 2: Guarded Tunberg on board and other activists attempting to bring

882
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Speaker 2: in basic aid and break that siege. Both ships have

883
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Speaker 2: at this point been the activists were kidnapped.

884
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Speaker 4: Off the ship.

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Speaker 2: And we're joined by Chris Mals, who many of you

886
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: longtime viewers of the show will know is the founder

887
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Speaker 2: of the Amazon Labor Union. He was on board that

888
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Speaker 2: second flotilla and was not only arrested, essentially kidnapped off

889
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Speaker 2: the high seas, but was beaten and detained and Israeli

890
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Speaker 2: prisons for a number of days. So, first of all, Chris,

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Speaker 2: welcome back, Welcome home, Welcome back to the show.

892
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Speaker 4: It's nice to see your face.

893
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Speaker 9: Man, Thank you, thank you, thank you for having me.

894
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Speaker 2: Of course, so just take us through why you wanted

895
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Speaker 2: to be a part of this and what your experience was.

896
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Speaker 2: And we've got time, so take your time explaining to

897
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Speaker 2: the audience what happened.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, absolutely, well, I want to I want to definitely

899
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 14: just touch on this mission was actually this was actually

900
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Speaker 14: both number thirty seven. I know a lot of people

901
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 14: gravitated to the mad Lean. They thought it was like

902
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 14: the first mission. They've been doing these flotillas since two

903
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Speaker 14: thousand and eight. Only in the last two decades, really

904
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Speaker 14: only five of flotilla's actually made it to the Gods

905
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Speaker 14: a Strip. So it was very important for me to

906
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Speaker 14: join this last mission on the Hondella as a labor activist,

907
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,879
Speaker 14: as an American tax paying citizen, I wanted to take

908
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Speaker 14: a stance that was more direct. I've done a lot

909
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 14: of protests, I've been to a lot of student encampments,

910
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 14: I've been heavily involved with the pro Palestine movement since

911
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 14: the very beginning, and as a labor leader. Once again,

912
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 14: labor unions in America and the US specifically have been

913
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,320
Speaker 14: very complicit, if not participating in this genocide with shipping

914
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 14: arms and manufacturing weapons, still with no resolution since October seventh.

915
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 14: And once again, as a tax paying citizen, we all

916
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 14: need to be outraged of where our money is going.

917
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,320
Speaker 14: You know, the killing and slaughtering of half a million

918
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 14: Palestinians in less than two years, it's just inhumane. So

919
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 14: for me to join this mission, I hope that it's

920
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Speaker 14: spread awareness. It seems like it did. Of course, the

921
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Speaker 14: legacy media didn't touch on it. Certain politicians, you can

922
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 14: name them, they're in touch on it. But you know,

923
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Speaker 14: I'm hoping once again that the awareness that we have

924
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 14: on the left and the awareness that we have in

925
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 14: the community will get this story out there and also

926
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Speaker 14: help push the narrative, like you said, to break their

927
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 14: legal seeds that Israel hasn't posed for the last two decades.

928
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Speaker 3: So, Chris, as you said, you're an American citizen, describe

929
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Speaker 3: your treatment after you're detained by the Israelis.

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Speaker 9: Well, of course I'm not just that.

931
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Speaker 14: I'm a black man from America and there there's been

932
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Speaker 14: a history there for a very long time, and as

933
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Speaker 14: one of the only black passengers on the Hondela, I

934
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Speaker 14: was kind of aware of what situation I was going

935
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Speaker 14: into prior to going. But you know what I said,

936
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Speaker 14: it doesn't matter. People need to see the truth. And

937
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Speaker 14: unfortunately they bit the bullet. They as soon as we

938
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Speaker 14: were transferred over from the IOF to the immigration or authorities,

939
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Speaker 14: I didn't consent to their propaganda stories. I put my

940
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Speaker 14: hands up over my face to cover my face from

941
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Speaker 14: the camera crews that they have. They had pretty much

942
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Speaker 14: camera crewis the entire time trying to film propaganda like

943
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Speaker 14: they did with Greta Thumberg with the sandwiches and things

944
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Speaker 14: like that. And when I did that, I was attacked

945
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Speaker 14: by seven authorities.

946
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Speaker 9: They threw me to the ground.

947
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Speaker 14: They put their knee in my back, They twisted my

948
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Speaker 14: arms behind my back, and they had three guys on

949
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Speaker 14: each side. They levitated me and one of them was

950
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Speaker 14: pulling my hair and using my chains that's a noose

951
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 14: to choke me until I couldn't breathe. Then they took

952
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Speaker 14: me to a separate room. They threw me against the

953
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Speaker 14: wall a few times, and they were saying some racist

954
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Speaker 14: remarks in my ears, saying that they're the furthest thing

955
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Speaker 14: from my brother and you know, nowhere close to being

956
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 14: brothers and They kept me isolated from the rest of

957
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Speaker 14: the passages and volunteers for the whole time.

958
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Speaker 9: They guarded me with five guards.

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Speaker 14: And yeah, once again I was treated different from the

960
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Speaker 14: rest of the crew.

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Speaker 2: Were there any while you were arrested and after you

962
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Speaker 2: had been assaulted? Were there any American politicians who intervened

963
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Speaker 2: to try to get you back talked to us about

964
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Speaker 2: the Yeah, because I mean, you are an American citizen.

965
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Speaker 2: You think this would be something that this administration, that

966
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,600
Speaker 2: various politicians would would care about. Did anyone speak out,

967
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Speaker 2: Did anyone intervene on your behalf?

968
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 9: No? Not, to my knowledge, I did.

969
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Speaker 14: When I returned home, I did see that the only

970
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Speaker 14: rep that really spoke out was Summer Lea, and I

971
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Speaker 14: believe rasheated to lead of course, who I spoke to

972
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Speaker 14: on the Hondella on a live stream. But as far

973
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Speaker 14: as the embassy, the US Embassy never showed up for us.

974
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Speaker 9: I was one of seven Americans.

975
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Speaker 14: We were one third of the crew, which was you know,

976
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 14: that was unprecedented by itself to have so many Americans

977
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Speaker 14: on board. The Embassy didn't do anything. I spoke to

978
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Speaker 14: the counsulate I was in custody. He promised that he

979
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 14: was supposed to take care of my safety, but he

980
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Speaker 14: failed that that I was already assaulted by then, and

981
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Speaker 14: every other embassy and for all the other countries that

982
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 14: was with us, they showed up in person and they

983
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Speaker 14: made sure that they people got home U the US

984
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Speaker 14: did not.

985
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:20,280
Speaker 9: Wow.

986
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Speaker 3: I mean so nobody of the consulate, nothing was an

987
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Speaker 3: They did not assist you.

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Speaker 2: And it's crazy, Chris, What was your goal? What was

989
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,440
Speaker 2: the goal of the you know, bringing this aid? What

990
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Speaker 2: did you have on board? And did the Israelis have

991
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 2: any legal authority to intercept the ship?

992
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 9: Yeah?

993
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Speaker 14: So, you know, we know we didn't have enough aid.

994
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Speaker 14: The goal was never to deliver a humanitarian aid. The

995
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 14: goal is to break a legal siege. The aid that

996
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Speaker 14: we had was very minimum, but we had prosthetic parts,

997
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 14: we had medical supplies, baby formula, baby diapers, women care,

998
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 14: a whole bunch of hope and solidarity. You know, we

999
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 14: knew that we can never feed everybody in Gaza. But

1000
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 14: once again, to break the sea. This is what the

1001
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 14: message is about and the goal is about. And as

1002
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 14: far as Israel's jurisdiction on international waters, they have none.

1003
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Speaker 14: The ICJ ruled over a year ago with the case

1004
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Speaker 14: versus Israel and South Africa, that humanitary aid can continue

1005
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 14: to be delivered to the people of Gaza. They cannot

1006
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 14: block that in any way, whether it's land or sea.

1007
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Speaker 14: So we were in our legal right ass civilians to

1008
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Speaker 14: deliver this humanitary aid. And Israel fake maritime blockade is

1009
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Speaker 14: not a real thing. They have no jurisdictions on international waters.

1010
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Speaker 14: This is why it's deemed the kidnapping.

1011
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: And Chris just broadly, you know, reflecting on your experience,

1012
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:52,400
Speaker 3: you know, what does it tell you about your own treatment?

1013
00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 3: And the silence from here politicians here in America, because

1014
00:48:56,239 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: we hear a lot about hostages held in hamas, which

1015
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Speaker 3: is fine. Some of them were American citizens, and of

1016
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Speaker 3: course we should care about them. But you were effectively

1017
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: held hostage, you know, by Israel and you received no

1018
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: contact from anybody in our government.

1019
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 14: Well, once again, this is a you know, silence equals

1020
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:19,440
Speaker 14: death and and that's exactly what our American government has

1021
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,919
Speaker 14: shown us, is that they rather be complicit and participate

1022
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 14: in the genocide than actually stand on the right side

1023
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:28,920
Speaker 14: of history. And it's not just the government, it's it's uh,

1024
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 14: these labor unions who passed their resolutions. It's these corporations

1025
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Speaker 14: like Amazon who invested seven point two billion dollars into

1026
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Speaker 14: the Nimbus project. They essentially are the Iron Dome. I mean,

1027
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:43,200
Speaker 14: it's all of them. It's all these dots are connected.

1028
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 14: And you know, I hope the people paid attention to

1029
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 14: who exactly who they called their so called progressive politicians.

1030
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,320
Speaker 9: They were silent, completely silent.

1031
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 14: You can't tell me that that they didn't catch wind

1032
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,200
Speaker 14: of what was going on, especially with me. As you know,

1033
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 14: Crystal and y'all. Y'all have been reporting on me for

1034
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 14: the last five years. Ever since I was fired, I've

1035
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 14: been in major headlines. I've made every major publication in

1036
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Speaker 14: the country, in the world. So there's no excuse for

1037
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 14: why they've been silent, but the fact that they are complicit.

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Speaker 2: And finally, Chris, you know, I think a lot of

1039
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: people who see these images and are horrified.

1040
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Speaker 4: I think a lot of people.

1041
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 2: Struggle with what their moral responsibility is in this moment.

1042
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,120
Speaker 4: How do you think about that question?

1043
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,879
Speaker 14: We all have a role to play, and that's what

1044
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 14: that's exactly what I'm doing.

1045
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 9: As a labor leader. I chose to take more direct stance.

1046
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Speaker 14: I'm not encouraging everybody to do that, because it's not

1047
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 14: meant for everybody to join these flow tillises. We shouldn't

1048
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 14: have to put our lives on the line. You know,

1049
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:50,840
Speaker 14: this was a life of death situation, and I have

1050
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 14: children of my own. I wanted to return home and

1051
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Speaker 14: make sure that they have a future they live in.

1052
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Speaker 14: And that's what people need to think about, especially American

1053
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 14: citizens once again, who tax paying dollars are going towards this.

1054
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 14: We all need to be outraged and if whatever way

1055
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:10,959
Speaker 14: you feel like showing your activism, it's the time.

1056
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 9: The time is now, and that's what we have to do.

1057
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 14: We have to hold these entities accountable, and we have

1058
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,839
Speaker 14: to hold these people in power accountable right now.

1059
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Speaker 2: Chris Mall's always great to see you. Great work here,

1060
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:27,120
Speaker 2: you know, incredibly courageous. As you said, I mean, you

1061
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,560
Speaker 2: put your life on the line for something you believe

1062
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 2: in and that is truly to be commended. So thank

1063
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: you so much for joining us, Thank you for the

1064
00:51:34,080 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 2: work you're doing.

1065
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Speaker 3: Good to see you, Chris, thank you, thank you, thank you,

1066
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Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for watching.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate it. Great Friday show for everybody tomorrow. See

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Speaker 1: you then