WEBVTT - The Evolution of Batteries

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tex Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff Works dot Com. Hey everyone, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jovin Strickland and I'm Lauren Folkebin. Today we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about something that we've tackled in a previous

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<v Speaker 1>episode at least Chris and I did. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about batteries and also why have batteries been so slow

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<v Speaker 1>to improve over time? What what could be the future

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<v Speaker 1>of batteries and uh and what are the implications of that.

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<v Speaker 1>This all comes to us courtesy of a listener suggestion.

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<v Speaker 1>David via Twitter said, could we talk about the improvements

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<v Speaker 1>and battery technology and also why battery text seems to

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<v Speaker 1>lag behind other technology when it comes to big leaps.

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<v Speaker 1>It's um, that's a good question. And so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that a lot of people have commented on

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that you have something called Moore's law. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that observation that in general, microprocessors get twice the number

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<v Speaker 1>of discrete elements, or if you prefer to think of

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<v Speaker 1>it in another way, microprocessors tend to get twice as

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<v Speaker 1>powerful every two years or so. There. Yeah, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not exponential growth, which I have called it in previous episodes,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, and people right in every time and

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<v Speaker 1>call it take us to task on it, which is

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<v Speaker 1>important because when we get wrong, it's a misuse of

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<v Speaker 1>the word exponential. I'm using it's a colloquial use. But

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<v Speaker 1>I do not want to go down that hole again

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm like you guys, I get irritated when people

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<v Speaker 1>misuse words too. I just wish I didn't do it

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<v Speaker 1>as frequently myself. But anyway, it does double every two

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<v Speaker 1>years or so, and that's a phenomenal amount of growth.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about microprocessors that have billions of discrete elements

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<v Speaker 1>on them now, and they're all down at the nanoscale.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's this amazing amount of technology that's been poured

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<v Speaker 1>into microprocessors, partially because Morris law exists and companies strive

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<v Speaker 1>to to keep up with it to maintain it because

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<v Speaker 1>Moore's law, as we know, is not a real physical law.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more of an observation, and companies no one wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be the company that comes up and says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we can't do that. You know, we just got bored.

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<v Speaker 1>So it means that there's been a lot of innovation

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<v Speaker 1>in that space. But meanwhile, on the battery front, batteries

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<v Speaker 1>have in large part remain more or less the same

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<v Speaker 1>for decades. I mean, we've we've seen improvements in battery life,

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen improvements in battery efficiency, but there have been

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<v Speaker 1>some new technologies over the past fifty years. But even so,

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<v Speaker 1>it just hasn't it hasn't at all kept up with

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<v Speaker 1>the microprocessors assessor side. This is also, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this ties into our episodes where we talked about things

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<v Speaker 1>like the Singularity, where we talk about how technology doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>all progress at the same rate. So while we do

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<v Speaker 1>see devices getting more and more sophisticated and powerful, the

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<v Speaker 1>power supplies aren't keeping up with that trend. So it

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<v Speaker 1>may be that the Singularity, if it is ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to arrive, is further off than what some people think,

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<v Speaker 1>simply because the power side of the equation is lagging behind, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the the technological sophistication side. So why is that. Well

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<v Speaker 1>to understand it, we kind of have to one talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what a battery is and to sort of look

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<v Speaker 1>at the history of the development of batteries and talk

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<v Speaker 1>about what exactly it does now. On a very very

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<v Speaker 1>basic level, a battery is something that uses electro chemical

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<v Speaker 1>reactions so that you can guide electrons through a circuit

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<v Speaker 1>and have it do work. And that's about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's really all a battery is. And it's because

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<v Speaker 1>there are certain chemicals that when they have these reactions,

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<v Speaker 1>they lose electrons in the process, and if you are

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<v Speaker 1>able to control the flow of those electrons, then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got a battery. So batteries date back possibly as long

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<v Speaker 1>as though more than two thousand years ago. Yeah, these

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<v Speaker 1>these clay jars found in modern day Iraq and you

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<v Speaker 1>might might have heard of them called Bagdad batteries, where um, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>clay jars that contained an iron rod and cased in copper.

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<v Speaker 1>Tests suggest that the jars were at some point filled

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<v Speaker 1>with with with something ascetic like vinegar or wine, and

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<v Speaker 1>modern day replicas have successfully created an electric charge. They

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<v Speaker 1>might have been used for something like a like any

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<v Speaker 1>anything from religious rituals and medicinal purposes to even electro plating. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you've seen if you're a big MythBusters fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you may have seen an episode where they actually showed

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<v Speaker 1>these They created one of these batteries and then they

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<v Speaker 1>tried to see if they could get enough of a

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<v Speaker 1>charge for it to be detectable. Um, so that that's

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<v Speaker 1>an indication of that we were familiar with the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that certain materials under certain circumstances could omit this weird energy. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>at that time we weren't necessarily really aware of all

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<v Speaker 1>the things that could do, but that would change as

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<v Speaker 1>the centuries would pass. The next big date I have

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<v Speaker 1>is quite some time later, which is and that's when

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<v Speaker 1>Alessandro Volta count alis Andra Volta. He's only one. If

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<v Speaker 1>there were more than one, I would count them. Oh, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a nobility rank. So count Volta created

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<v Speaker 1>a battery by stacking alternating layers of zinc. Lawrence just

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<v Speaker 1>checked out at this point zinc, brine, soaked cloth or paper, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and silver. He used these alternating layers kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>sandwich here. And we call this a voltaic peel peel

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<v Speaker 1>because it's French and uh and and voltaic after volta, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and so uh. The this this peel or pile if

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<v Speaker 1>you prefer, because it is a pile. Oh stuff. When

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<v Speaker 1>you put it in this this configuration, you start getting

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<v Speaker 1>these chemical reactions that emit electrons, and you could make

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<v Speaker 1>the stack taller and taller to get more electrons a

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<v Speaker 1>stronger flow of current through this peel. But in order

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<v Speaker 1>to do that you actually had to stack it up

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<v Speaker 1>so high that eventually the weight from the top would

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<v Speaker 1>start to squish the layers on the bottom, which would

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<v Speaker 1>kind of make the brine soak out, and that would

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<v Speaker 1>make it less effective, and also the metal itself would

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<v Speaker 1>start to corrode fairly quickly. The Brian and the movement

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<v Speaker 1>the electrons, right, it just wasn't wasn't a practical way

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<v Speaker 1>of generating electricity, but it showed the premise and it

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<v Speaker 1>gave scientists the idea of there's something here, and if

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<v Speaker 1>we can figure out other ways of generating the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of energy, we might be able to harness it

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<v Speaker 1>for something. Skipping ahead, I mean there there are lots

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<v Speaker 1>of different developments in this technology. I have two specific ones.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you have a few more. The next really

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<v Speaker 1>effective one um was eighty six. Yeah, John Frederick Daniel,

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<v Speaker 1>who was an English physicist. He created what we now

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<v Speaker 1>call the Daniel cell, which was a you take a

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<v Speaker 1>glass jar and on the bottom of the glass jar

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<v Speaker 1>you put on in a copper plate. So copper plate

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<v Speaker 1>in the bottom of the glass jar, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>wire from the copper plate that comes out of the jar.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you or copper sulfate on top of that copper

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<v Speaker 1>plate to about the halfway point of the jar. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you suspend a zinc plate in the jar, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you pour zinc sulfate solution on top of the zinc plate. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>zinc sulfate is less dense than copper sulfate, so zinc

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<v Speaker 1>sulfate will float on top of copper sulfate. If you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever played with liquids of different densities that had different colors,

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<v Speaker 1>then you know what I'm talking about. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>that actual level of division. Yeah, it's actually it's one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite things. I just think it's super cool

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<v Speaker 1>when it When I see that, I'm easily amused, I

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<v Speaker 1>admit it. But anyway, you also have a wire coming

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<v Speaker 1>from the zinc plate uh and exiting the jar. So

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<v Speaker 1>a wire attached to this would become that that zinc

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<v Speaker 1>plate becomes the negative terminal that's where the electrons are

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<v Speaker 1>flowing from, and the copper plate becomes the positive terminal

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<v Speaker 1>that's where electrons are flowing too. And so if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to connect the two wires together, it would very

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<v Speaker 1>quickly burn out this bad but if you were to

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<v Speaker 1>connect it to a circuit, it could actually do uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it could or a load as we call it, it it

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<v Speaker 1>could actually do work. So again, not terribly practical, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was useful for anything that was stationary. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about a liquid uh battery here, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>not something that you could easily carry around or put

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<v Speaker 1>into portable electronics, right right, Yeah, and there's there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of a lot more elegant ways of getting that

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<v Speaker 1>that electrol kind of solution of of you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>just a charged molecule then yeah, yeah, And it wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be until we developed dry cell battery technology that we

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<v Speaker 1>started to find practical ways of using it in portable means,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. And even then, you know, the batteries weren't

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<v Speaker 1>small enough to use and what we consider portable electronics today,

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<v Speaker 1>but you could move it around. Uh. The kind of

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel cells that that John Frederick Daniel created were useful

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<v Speaker 1>for different technologies, things like telephones. It was stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>back then you did not carry around. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if your kids know this, but telephones used to be

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<v Speaker 1>these things that were extremely stationary. It's only recently that

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<v Speaker 1>we started carrying them around. Uh. Anyway, that's the kind

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<v Speaker 1>of battery that became popular for that. Uh. Now, did

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<v Speaker 1>you have any other ones who want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>before we move onto the basics of batteries rechargeable batteries.

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<v Speaker 1>The signs for that started um started with research around

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen fifty or so when a French physicist, Gaston Plant

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<v Speaker 1>invented the lead acid cell um and that that was

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<v Speaker 1>a that was a precursor to to modern day car batteries.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you have, you know, the discovery that this

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<v Speaker 1>chemical reaction that takes place within a battery, you get

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<v Speaker 1>compounds that form out of it, and it makes the

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<v Speaker 1>battery over time less effective. That's why batteries die. Eventually,

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<v Speaker 1>the active elements that would create the flow of electrons

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<v Speaker 1>end up combining with other stuff and for the purposes

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<v Speaker 1>of an of passing a current through a circuit, they

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<v Speaker 1>become a nert. Yeah. Yeah, something either wears out or

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<v Speaker 1>um or maybe the the anodeor cathode could could dissolve

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<v Speaker 1>in the solution. Right you just essentially what it means

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<v Speaker 1>is that you run out of the stuff you need

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<v Speaker 1>in order to make it to make this go right?

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<v Speaker 1>And so what what was it? Plant? Believe? Yes, what

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<v Speaker 1>Plant discovered was that for some kinds of solutions, if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to pass electric current through the system as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to siphoning it off, you could reverse this process

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, and create a battery that can be used

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<v Speaker 1>more than once. Right now, this does not work for

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<v Speaker 1>all batteries, which is why you can't just throw any

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<v Speaker 1>regular battery into a recharger and expect it to come

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<v Speaker 1>out fine. If you did that to a to a

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to Adris cell or something like that, mostly

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<v Speaker 1>just explode, right. Yeah, that these are has to be

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<v Speaker 1>batteries that are using specific uh compounds in it for

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<v Speaker 1>it to have this this reversible reaction, because not all

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<v Speaker 1>compounds will reverse some of them once they're done, they're

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<v Speaker 1>done and battery. We will talk about that a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit a little bit later. Um, but but let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how how exactly this this circuitry works. Okay, So,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've ever looked at a battery, you've seen that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a side that is labeled as a plus and

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<v Speaker 1>one that's labeled as a minus, so positive and negative.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're looking at like a nine volt battery, then

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<v Speaker 1>they're next to each other. If you're looking at double

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<v Speaker 1>a's or whatever, then it's on one end and the other.

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<v Speaker 1>So the negative end the that's where the electrons flow

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<v Speaker 1>out of. That's the electrons flow from that end through

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<v Speaker 1>a circuit and into the positive end. Uh. Now we

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<v Speaker 1>know that, you know, the the opposite charges attract, So

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<v Speaker 1>that's why the negative wants to get to the positive.

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<v Speaker 1>And inside the the the battery itself, there is a

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<v Speaker 1>chemical called or a compound called an electro light. Now

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<v Speaker 1>the electro light has a very important job. It blocks

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<v Speaker 1>those electrons from just passing from the negative side to

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<v Speaker 1>the positive side directly. Direct That would burn burn everything out. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that you wouldn't You wouldn't be able to power anything.

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<v Speaker 1>The battery would just you would just have a chemical

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<v Speaker 1>reaction inside a canister and it would be dead within

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<v Speaker 1>however long it took for those reactions. Yeah. Um. So

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<v Speaker 1>it does allow ions to pass through, but not electrons,

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<v Speaker 1>and that becomes important. So the negative terminal is connected

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<v Speaker 1>to something that's called the anode. The positive terminal is

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<v Speaker 1>connected to what we call the cathode, and these together

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<v Speaker 1>are the electrodes of a battery. Then you've got the

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<v Speaker 1>separator between the anode and the cathode that's presenting that's

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<v Speaker 1>preventing those two sides from reacting to each other. And

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<v Speaker 1>you have the electro LTE that allows the electric charge

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<v Speaker 1>to flow between cathode and anode, allowing the ions to

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<v Speaker 1>pass through while making sure the electrons don't. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you have a collector, which is the part of the

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<v Speaker 1>battery that conducts the charge to the outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>battery and through whatever the load is, the electronic load,

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<v Speaker 1>so the circuit um. So within that anode side, the

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<v Speaker 1>negative side, the chemical reaction that takes place is called

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<v Speaker 1>oxid ation. It's an oxidation reaction. This ends up releasing

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<v Speaker 1>ions and the ions move through the electro light to

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<v Speaker 1>combine on UH the other side, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 1>UH the release of electrons that go through the circuitry.

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<v Speaker 1>On the catholic side, you've got the reduction reaction. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where the catholic material and the ions UH combined with

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<v Speaker 1>the electrons that are coming in through the circuit that

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<v Speaker 1>they form a new compound. And so essentially you've got

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<v Speaker 1>the anode freeing up electrons. The cathode accepting electrons, and

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<v Speaker 1>the electrons do work along the way. So if you

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<v Speaker 1>were to actually connect a wire from the negative terminal

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<v Speaker 1>to the positive terminal, you would allow that that pathway

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<v Speaker 1>to be open and it would just start to burn

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<v Speaker 1>up that battery pretty quickly. Don't do that. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>waste of batteries. It's going to heat up that wire.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't do anything other than kill your battery. But

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<v Speaker 1>but that's what happens. It's so when you've got it

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<v Speaker 1>plugged into something, whenever you turn the switch on to

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<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, whether it's a you know, a lightsaber

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<v Speaker 1>or a phaser. You know, I allow all kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>science fiction toys for batteries. But whenever you turn it on,

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<v Speaker 1>it opens up that circuit and that allows the electrons

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<v Speaker 1>to flow through. And when you turn it off, then

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<v Speaker 1>the one of the gates gets closed essentially, and you

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<v Speaker 1>no longer the connection is no longer there, so the

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<v Speaker 1>battery stops the chemical reaction. It has to have that

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<v Speaker 1>pathway open for the chemical reaction to keep going. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there are several different basic types of batteries that are

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<v Speaker 1>out there, and we're just going to cover a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of them, and we're covering them based upon the stuff

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<v Speaker 1>that's inside them, right, because there's a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>different substances that you can use to create these reactions.

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<v Speaker 1>Like like we said, so yeah, so so one basic

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<v Speaker 1>type is the is alkaline batteries. Uh, the anode and

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<v Speaker 1>alkaline batteries tends to be zinc powder. So the anode

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<v Speaker 1>again is that negative side that's the electrons are coming from.

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<v Speaker 1>The cathode side has typically manganese dioxide, and the electrolyte

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<v Speaker 1>is typically potassium hydroxide. These are the kind of batteries

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<v Speaker 1>that you typically find in double a's, C and D batteries. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all examples of this is an example of

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<v Speaker 1>dry cell batteries. Yes, which dry cell batteries. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the big benefits of those that you don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about liquid slashing around inside the battery, so that

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<v Speaker 1>allows it to be used in lots of applications. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's liquid obviously you can't shake around too much

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<v Speaker 1>or else just gonna disrupt it and you're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have a working battery. For they're more they're more more volatile. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you want that, you want then a very h stationary position.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you've got zinc carbon batteries. Uh. These have an

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<v Speaker 1>anode that has that's zinc obviously. Uh. And then you've

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<v Speaker 1>got the meganese dioxide cathode. But the electrolyte in this

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<v Speaker 1>case is often either ammonium chloride or zinc chloride. These

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<v Speaker 1>are often found in triple A, double A, C and

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<v Speaker 1>D dry cell batteries. Then you've got lithium ion batteries.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the ones that we find in laptops, smartphones, cameras,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff. They are rechargeable batteries and they

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<v Speaker 1>have different materials in them. But uh, one common version

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<v Speaker 1>of lithium ion batteries uses a carbon note and a

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<v Speaker 1>lithium cobalt oxide cathode and uh and yeah, these are

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that we use when we're recharging our our

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<v Speaker 1>various electronics very frequently anyway. Then you've got lead acid batteries.

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<v Speaker 1>These are the ones that you often find in cars.

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<v Speaker 1>These are more heavy duty, right, they are more volatile.

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<v Speaker 1>They do include liquid, Yeah, they include their they're they're

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<v Speaker 1>electrolyte tends to be sulfuric acid. This is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons why you want to be really careful with

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<v Speaker 1>car batteries because the materials inside them can be very

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<v Speaker 1>caustic and and they can damage you your stuff, your car.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why you know you've got to be really careful

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<v Speaker 1>with these things. Um, they tend to have uh, lead

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<v Speaker 1>dioxide and metallic lead as their electrodes. So yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>rechargeable battery we've already talked about, that's the kind where

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<v Speaker 1>if you put the electric current through the battery, you

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<v Speaker 1>reverse this uh, this chemical reaction. Uh. It depends upon

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<v Speaker 1>what that rechargeable battery is made from, whether how effective

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<v Speaker 1>this this process is right, because there's some kinds of

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<v Speaker 1>rechargeable batteries that have well they have a memory, and

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<v Speaker 1>that memory is not a good one. The memory effect

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm talking about. So I don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>many of you are familiar with this, but if you've

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<v Speaker 1>ever heard someone say that before you recharge your device,

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<v Speaker 1>you should make sure that it's completely that the current

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<v Speaker 1>charges completely out. This was due to some some older

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<v Speaker 1>types of batteries that have been mostly replaced by lithium

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<v Speaker 1>ion batteries. Nickel cadmium is the main culprit here. So

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<v Speaker 1>the problem that some people notice with nickel cadmium is

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<v Speaker 1>that if you used a nickel cadmium battery for a

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<v Speaker 1>while and then you recharged it before you had completely

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<v Speaker 1>discharged the original charge, it wouldn't hold as much of

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<v Speaker 1>a charge the next time. So let's say that I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a device that has a nickel cadmium battery in

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<v Speaker 1>it and I run it down to about left like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it only has charge left, and I decided to

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<v Speaker 1>recharge it. Well, now it's new maximum charge is more

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<v Speaker 1>like eight of what it used to be because I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't let it go. It remembers that, but it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>let me actually consume that power anymore. So yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>was a problem. Now most batteries now don't have that issue.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's still a minor memory effect in some

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<v Speaker 1>rechargeable batteries, but it's not nearly as dramatic as it

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<v Speaker 1>the older batteries were, right, So so yeah, so if

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<v Speaker 1>you are using a lithium ion battery and someone tells

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<v Speaker 1>you that thing, you can you can tell them that

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<v Speaker 1>we told you no, No, not as big a deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And another interesting thing about batteries is what happens if

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<v Speaker 1>you place them in series versus in parallel. So in

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<v Speaker 1>series it sounds kind of you know, is what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>You've you've got them hooked up so that they are

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<v Speaker 1>all the charges running through one and then another and

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<v Speaker 1>then another. Yeah, in a sequence exactly. And uh, if

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<v Speaker 1>you do that, you increase the voltage of the output. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you put them in parallel, you increase the current.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you might wonder what's the differences voltage and current

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're not really familiar with electronics. I

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<v Speaker 1>always have to look this up because I I I,

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<v Speaker 1>I always second guess myself. But voltage measures the energy

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<v Speaker 1>per unit charge. And you can think of that is

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<v Speaker 1>it's how strong the electrons are pushed through a circuit.

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<v Speaker 1>So think of it like water pressure, you know, through

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<v Speaker 1>a hose. So the greater the water pressure, the harder

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<v Speaker 1>that water is being pushed through the hose. That's essentially

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<v Speaker 1>your voltage, it's you know. And then current is the

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<v Speaker 1>rate at which electric charge passes through a circuit. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>voltage will stay constant, the voltage output will stay constant

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<v Speaker 1>based upon whatever kind of battery you have, or whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not they're in series. Uh, but otherwise it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to remain the same current, however, will vary depending upon

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<v Speaker 1>the load you place it, uh, you place on it,

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<v Speaker 1>so and that can like the resistance of a wire

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<v Speaker 1>can affect what the current is. So current is variable.

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<v Speaker 1>Voltage is not, and uh, apart from the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>if you put them in series, you increase the voltage,

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<v Speaker 1>but once you've done that, it does not vary. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, Well that's the basis the very basic foundation

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<v Speaker 1>of batteries. And in the moment we're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about why we haven't moved very far away from this

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<v Speaker 1>basic explanation we just gave you. But before we do that,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to take a quick moment to thank our

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<v Speaker 1>sponsored all Right, so we're back, uh, and we've learned

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<v Speaker 1>the basic function of a battery and how it does

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<v Speaker 1>what it does. So what's the problem. Why haven't we

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<v Speaker 1>made super batteries that last forever and never need to

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<v Speaker 1>be recharged and can put out more energy than uh

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<v Speaker 1>the generator? Yeah, well, I mean, you know, there's the

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<v Speaker 1>first commercial dry cell batteries premiered in and they haven't

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<v Speaker 1>really changed all that much since then. Yeah, We've we've

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<v Speaker 1>experimented with different materials, but the actual process has remained

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<v Speaker 1>very much the same, And there are physical limits that

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<v Speaker 1>chemical batteries have. They can only generate so much electricity

0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:43.080
<v Speaker 1>through these reactions. There have been a few permutations of

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<v Speaker 1>different things. In addition to those nickel cadmium batteries that

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<v Speaker 1>that have the memory effect problem that we mentioned earlier,

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:52.800
<v Speaker 1>there's there was also some some nickel metal hydride, but

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<v Speaker 1>they had a really short shelf life. They would start

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<v Speaker 1>degrading pretty quickly. Yeah, that's another thing about some types

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<v Speaker 1>of batteries that lithium ion batteries have that problem as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're less bad at it, but they're still not ideal. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea being that these these chemical reactions, like the

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<v Speaker 1>longer the battery sits idle, the less juice. Yeah. And

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<v Speaker 1>and and this doesn't have anything to do with how

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<v Speaker 1>much you use it. It's it's from the moment that

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<v Speaker 1>they're made. Yeah. Yeah. And also you may have heard

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<v Speaker 1>stories about, well, if you want to keep your batteries

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<v Speaker 1>from degrading, you should put them in the refrigerator. Don't

0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.399
<v Speaker 1>do that. Don't do that because that actually it actually

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<v Speaker 1>slows down the chemical processes that happen when you yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're when you're trying to use the battery, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to not get as much juice as you

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<v Speaker 1>thought you were because the chemicals themselves are too cold

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<v Speaker 1>to have those chemical reactions happen at the correct rate.

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<v Speaker 1>They're still going to happen, but you're gonna get a

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<v Speaker 1>easily amount of juice out of it, right. So, so far,

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<v Speaker 1>lithium ion batteries, especially for small uses, have have been

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<v Speaker 1>have been pretty pretty rad um. How however, they are

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<v Speaker 1>very sensitive to high temperatures um, you know, which is

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<v Speaker 1>occasionally why they wind up exploding, bursting into flame. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>let's also point out that lithium is an alkali metal,

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<v Speaker 1>so and we'll we'll talk about a little bit. We're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna talk about a AH, a possible future type of

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<v Speaker 1>battery that people are working on right now, where that's

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<v Speaker 1>really an issue. Both lithium and sodium are being considered

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<v Speaker 1>for new types of batteries, but both of them are

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<v Speaker 1>alkali metals. The big problem, there are several problems, but

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<v Speaker 1>the big problem I would say with that is alkali

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<v Speaker 1>metals belong to a class where they tend to be

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<v Speaker 1>let's say, reactive when they come into contact with water.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you've ever heard stories about sodium and water,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you've ever seen anyone demonstrate what happens when

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<v Speaker 1>sodium encounters water, uh, you know it's explosive. The same

0:23:54.240 --> 0:23:57.040
<v Speaker 1>thing is true of lithium. All right, this is where

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<v Speaker 1>we get a little chemistry. Lesson, everyone, go and get

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<v Speaker 1>your period audic table of elements. I'll wait now. If

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<v Speaker 1>you look at the left hand side of that table

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<v Speaker 1>of elements, you're gonna see that down the line you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have lithium and you're gonna have sodium that are

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<v Speaker 1>both in that same line, as well as potassium and

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<v Speaker 1>some other alkali metals. That means that those elements share

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<v Speaker 1>common characteristics, and one of those is when water comes

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<v Speaker 1>in contacts, sometimes things go boom. So first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>never never ever play with these I don't if you

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<v Speaker 1>get hold of sodium or lithium, never play with that

0:24:32.960 --> 0:24:36.800
<v Speaker 1>and water. This is seriously dangerous stuff. Also, probably just

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<v Speaker 1>just don't. I mean, because because water is in the

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<v Speaker 1>air around us in in great enough quantities that hypothetically

0:24:43.000 --> 0:24:47.359
<v Speaker 1>it can burst into flame. I know of someone I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a friend of a friend's story, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>possibly apocryphal. So it could be urban legend. I admit that,

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<v Speaker 1>But I know of someone who pocketed some sodium from

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<v Speaker 1>his chemistry class and then was walking around with it

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<v Speaker 1>in his pocket, and his body was giving off moisture,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he began to feel a burning sensation in

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<v Speaker 1>his pants and immediately ran to the bathroom and pulled

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<v Speaker 1>the sodium mountain threw it into the toilet, which then exploded. Yeah, again,

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<v Speaker 1>could be apocryphal. This is it was a story about

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<v Speaker 1>a high school student who went to a rival school,

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<v Speaker 1>so it could have very well been one of those

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<v Speaker 1>stories where ha ha, the people who go to that

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<v Speaker 1>school are so dumb, so much more dumb than the

0:25:32.800 --> 0:25:35.600
<v Speaker 1>people who go to my school, which is saying something.

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:41.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm just kidding. I love all my classmates Spartans, but anyway,

0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.720
<v Speaker 1>you were the Spartans, I was the Spartans. Were Spartans

0:25:45.200 --> 0:25:49.440
<v Speaker 1>Spartans together. This is tech stuff. So but the point,

0:25:49.520 --> 0:25:53.440
<v Speaker 1>the point being that these these these elements have serious

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:55.440
<v Speaker 1>drawbacks to him. And that's one of the reasons why

0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:59.679
<v Speaker 1>the another reason why battery improvement has gone so slowly,

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:02.080
<v Speaker 1>because we have to find safe ways to handle this

0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.240
<v Speaker 1>stuff so that it doesn't come into contact with water

0:26:05.359 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 1>and then just blow up. Right. Part of that in

0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 1>lithium ion batteries specifically, is that they have to have

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>a very small, very simple onboard computer to to manage

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:15.920
<v Speaker 1>the way that all of the bits flow around in there,

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 1>and uh and and that that makes them pretty expensive.

0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Lithium is already pretty expensive, but it makes them even

0:26:20.920 --> 0:26:22.840
<v Speaker 1>more expensive than they would already be. Now, we have

0:26:22.960 --> 0:26:26.639
<v Speaker 1>seen some improvements with battery life in recent years, but

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:29.760
<v Speaker 1>a lot of that doesn't come from improvements in the batteries.

0:26:30.080 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 1>It's coming in improvements in the actual electronics. We are

0:26:33.560 --> 0:26:37.400
<v Speaker 1>finding more efficient ways to generate the stuff we want.

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>So your smartphones, if you've got a smartphone recently that

0:26:41.880 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>has a decent battery life, it may not be that

0:26:45.640 --> 0:26:47.480
<v Speaker 1>the battery is so much better. It's just that the

0:26:47.520 --> 0:26:50.720
<v Speaker 1>people who designed the hardware and software we're able to

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>maximize performance while being as efficient as possible. So you're

0:26:55.200 --> 0:26:59.840
<v Speaker 1>still working with the same basic amount of Yeah, but

0:27:00.000 --> 0:27:02.000
<v Speaker 1>you don't need as much of it to do the

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:05.440
<v Speaker 1>stuff you are doing exactly. Speaking of that juice, though,

0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:07.919
<v Speaker 1>the problem with batteries, and the reason that that that

0:27:08.080 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 1>gasoline has not been ousted completely by batteries. Is that

0:27:12.240 --> 0:27:15.200
<v Speaker 1>gasoline has an energy density of something like thirteen thousand

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.960
<v Speaker 1>watt hours per kilogram, which is which is just a

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:20.400
<v Speaker 1>measure of how much of juice it has, how much

0:27:20.800 --> 0:27:23.400
<v Speaker 1>how much, how much work they can get out of

0:27:23.560 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>a given amount of gasoline. Sure, um, the best lithium

0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:32.040
<v Speaker 1>ion batteries only hold about two hundred what hours per kilogram,

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:35.200
<v Speaker 1>so with of a of a hypothetical in a perfect

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>world situation, four hundred possible, So still vastly underpowered when

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 1>you compare it to gasoline. Right now, there are some

0:27:45.960 --> 0:27:49.000
<v Speaker 1>people out there, very very smart people working on batteries

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>that would have much higher densities power densities for their

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:55.840
<v Speaker 1>batteries if they can get the batteries to work, if

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:58.840
<v Speaker 1>they can get the the components to to to play nicely,

0:27:59.280 --> 0:28:02.400
<v Speaker 1>to not explore oade, and to work on larger scales,

0:28:02.560 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 1>and to work after more than three charges. There are

0:28:05.840 --> 0:28:08.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of barriers that are in place, and we'll

0:28:08.520 --> 0:28:12.520
<v Speaker 1>talk about some specific uh cases, but keep in mind

0:28:12.840 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>there have been dozens, if not hundreds of different experiments

0:28:16.840 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and trying to improve battery technology, and most of them

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.400
<v Speaker 1>just have not panned out. They might have seen promising

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:24.920
<v Speaker 1>at the beginning, but when you get to a point

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 1>where you're thinking, all right, how are we going to

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:29.119
<v Speaker 1>scale this up where we can actually manufacture it or

0:28:29.600 --> 0:28:32.159
<v Speaker 1>create a battery large enough to do something useful, and

0:28:32.200 --> 0:28:35.119
<v Speaker 1>then things start to break down. So one of the

0:28:35.119 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 1>ones I wanted to talk about where these things called

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:42.120
<v Speaker 1>micro batteries, And this was something that that we received

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:47.200
<v Speaker 1>from that initial request to talk about battery improvements. And

0:28:47.240 --> 0:28:50.600
<v Speaker 1>this is a story about a team of researchers from

0:28:50.600 --> 0:28:55.720
<v Speaker 1>the University of Illinois uh talking about a particular type

0:28:55.720 --> 0:29:00.240
<v Speaker 1>of battery that uses these very tiny electrodes and lots

0:29:00.240 --> 0:29:03.440
<v Speaker 1>and lots of them, and their three dimensional electrodes, and

0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:07.720
<v Speaker 1>it was almost like these electrodes are kind of intertwined together,

0:29:07.800 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>so they're very close together, which allows the ions to

0:29:10.600 --> 0:29:14.240
<v Speaker 1>pass very very quickly. It also allows electrons to flow

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:16.520
<v Speaker 1>very quickly, and the idea being that you would be

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:18.760
<v Speaker 1>able to release quite a bit of energy in a

0:29:18.760 --> 0:29:21.880
<v Speaker 1>short amount of time, faster than you could with most batteries,

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and you could also recharge the battery way faster, right,

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:27.960
<v Speaker 1>because that thoroughput speed has a lot to do with

0:29:28.000 --> 0:29:31.120
<v Speaker 1>how effective a battery is. Yeah, and in fact, according

0:29:31.240 --> 0:29:36.080
<v Speaker 1>to several articles that were posted about this technology. BBC

0:29:36.320 --> 0:29:40.040
<v Speaker 1>did one as well as some other outlets. The claim

0:29:40.120 --> 0:29:42.800
<v Speaker 1>was that such a battery would be reached could be

0:29:42.840 --> 0:29:47.440
<v Speaker 1>recharged one thousand times faster than competing technology, so you

0:29:47.520 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 1>could turn your you know, plug your smartphone in. Let's

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:53.160
<v Speaker 1>say your smartphone has one of these batteries in it

0:29:53.720 --> 0:29:56.520
<v Speaker 1>and you plugged it in. After a second, it's fully recharged.

0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.360
<v Speaker 1>You don't have to leave it there for hours for

0:29:59.400 --> 0:30:02.400
<v Speaker 1>it to charge, which is that's a very attractive thing.

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.360
<v Speaker 1>So you're thinking, well, if it can release lots of energy,

0:30:05.520 --> 0:30:08.000
<v Speaker 1>and if it can be recharged in a blink of

0:30:08.040 --> 0:30:12.920
<v Speaker 1>an eye, where's the problem. Well, mostly the problem comes

0:30:13.040 --> 0:30:18.120
<v Speaker 1>in from the manufacturing side and the scalability as well

0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>as uh the fact that it's not the most reliable technology.

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:26.640
<v Speaker 1>Ours Technica actually ran a great article where they really

0:30:26.680 --> 0:30:29.920
<v Speaker 1>looked into this and and dove deeper than a lot

0:30:29.960 --> 0:30:33.040
<v Speaker 1>of the other outlets did to kind of take a

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:35.400
<v Speaker 1>look at this technology with a skeptical eye, just to

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 1>make sure that it really did measure up to the hype,

0:30:38.240 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 1>because we've seen this before with battery technology, right, and

0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 1>this isn't to say that they want the team won't

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 1>figure out a way of of solving the problems that

0:30:46.440 --> 0:30:48.200
<v Speaker 1>they face. But here are some of the problems. One

0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 1>of them is that it's really hard to manufacture these things.

0:30:51.400 --> 0:30:53.800
<v Speaker 1>The way that the team was doing it, they were

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:58.240
<v Speaker 1>using this uh, this essentially gold to make these little

0:30:58.240 --> 0:31:02.280
<v Speaker 1>three dimensional um electrides electrodes sort of, and then they

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>used poly styrene uh, little little tiny poly styrene pills,

0:31:07.560 --> 0:31:13.040
<v Speaker 1>essentially packing them in there, twisting the electrodes around, coding

0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 1>it and nickel in a well in a combination of

0:31:16.960 --> 0:31:20.920
<v Speaker 1>nickel and tin and then UH nickelton alloy actually, and

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:26.760
<v Speaker 1>then coding the rest of it with manganese oxy hydroxide uh,

0:31:26.840 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 1>and then melting away the poly styrene so it it's gone,

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.600
<v Speaker 1>then immersing the whole thing to a liquid that was

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 1>heated to three degrees celsius or five degrees fahrenheit. And

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:42.400
<v Speaker 1>so it's what even the team has referred to as

0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:47.959
<v Speaker 1>a boutique manufacturing approach, meaning that it's very detailed, it's painstaking,

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>it is not automated, extremely expensive. Yeah, it's no time

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:57.560
<v Speaker 1>consuming exactly, not something that's scalable to mass manufacturing methods

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>right now, certainly right that's not to say that they

0:31:59.520 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't find some other way of doing it. They may

0:32:01.960 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>find a way of doing it where it doesn't require

0:32:04.240 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 1>this series of painstaking steps in order to get the

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:12.719
<v Speaker 1>result that they want, but uh, it's not ideal. Another

0:32:12.760 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>problem is that the electrolyte they're using is combustible, so

0:32:16.680 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>that's always a concern. If you get it too hot,

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 1>it could burst into flames. Uh um, or you know,

0:32:22.480 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 1>if you were to get it close to a flame,

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>it could catch fire. And on top of all that, uh,

0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the battery loses about five percent of its capacity with

0:32:31.480 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>each charge discharge cycle, so after fifteen cycles it would

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:38.560
<v Speaker 1>be down to about two thirds of its original capacity.

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.400
<v Speaker 1>And uh, if you were to do a full discharge

0:32:43.400 --> 0:32:46.200
<v Speaker 1>full charge, it might be even worse than that. So

0:32:46.480 --> 0:32:49.120
<v Speaker 1>while it would recharge very quickly, it would have a

0:32:49.160 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>little less juice each time. And so after you recharge

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 1>it twenty times, yeah, you have to buy a new battery,

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>new battery, right, So, uh, that raises lots of problems

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to waste problems. For example, like even if you were

0:33:04.720 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>to say, well, that's acceptable because I want to be

0:33:07.000 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>able to charge my phone in the second, you can

0:33:09.160 --> 0:33:10.640
<v Speaker 1>do that twenty times, and then you have to go

0:33:10.680 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 1>buy a new battery. And especially when the when the

0:33:12.560 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>technology to create it is so so detailed and expensive,

0:33:15.360 --> 0:33:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and to be fair, you wouldn't even you wouldn't even

0:33:17.560 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>go twenty times, right because each time you would have

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>less juice and so your your phone would be less

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and less useful over time. So after after your phone

0:33:26.560 --> 0:33:28.680
<v Speaker 1>doesn't last more than a couple of hours, you think, well,

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:30.520
<v Speaker 1>I gotta get a new battery. So that might be

0:33:30.640 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>six or seven recharges, depending upon how hard you are

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 1>on electronics. If you're me, then you'd be like, all right,

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:42.760
<v Speaker 1>recharge it, give me a new battery. So um. So

0:33:42.800 --> 0:33:47.680
<v Speaker 1>that that's the downside to this micro battery technology. That's

0:33:47.720 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 1>not to say again that they won't find ways around that.

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Engineers are brilliant at finding ways of fixing problems. But

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:58.480
<v Speaker 1>it's not going to be the revolutionary battery technology that

0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:00.240
<v Speaker 1>we're all going to see in our smart on in

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.360
<v Speaker 1>the next few months. It'll it'll at least be a

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.200
<v Speaker 1>couple of years before we can see this rolled out

0:34:05.200 --> 0:34:07.200
<v Speaker 1>in any way, assuming that they find a way to

0:34:07.240 --> 0:34:10.840
<v Speaker 1>fix these problems. Right. One of the other ones that

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:13.919
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to talk about our lithium air batteries, and

0:34:14.080 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>this is where we're getting into those alkali metals and

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>the concern about how they react with water exactly. You know,

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:23.560
<v Speaker 1>they could hypothetically store up to four times as as

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 1>much as as lithium ion batteries, as much power as

0:34:26.560 --> 0:34:32.240
<v Speaker 1>lithium ion batteries, but they work in that um. Lithium

0:34:32.239 --> 0:34:35.040
<v Speaker 1>combines with with oxygen that's trapped by a carbon surface.

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 1>Carbon nanotubes are are popular right now and um and

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 1>the resulting interplay of these lithium ions and electrons induces

0:34:42.040 --> 0:34:45.319
<v Speaker 1>the flow of current. UM. Yeah, you get a get a.

0:34:45.719 --> 0:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>One of the by products you get out of this

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>is lithium peroxide, which is a problem because as it accumulates,

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:56.879
<v Speaker 1>it starts to make it more difficult to recharge the battery. Right.

0:34:57.160 --> 0:35:01.359
<v Speaker 1>So they they've only recently figured well, they they've had

0:35:01.400 --> 0:35:05.759
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of of barriers to to making this work.

0:35:05.880 --> 0:35:08.360
<v Speaker 1>That is, that is one of them they're they're starting

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 1>to For a long time, they didn't understand why the

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 1>electrochemical reactions were going so poorly in these things, and

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:19.640
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't until uh May thirteen that that researchers at

0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 1>m I T and Sandia National Labs announced that they

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.440
<v Speaker 1>were starting to be able to observe the reactions at

0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 1>all to figure out why this isn't working, and that's

0:35:27.960 --> 0:35:31.080
<v Speaker 1>when they started seeing this lithium peroxide forming that was

0:35:31.120 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 1>inhibiting the flow of electricity. And uh, they did discover

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that if the electricity were flowing, that the lithium peroxide

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:43.520
<v Speaker 1>was starting to reduce around the trouble spots. And they

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:46.840
<v Speaker 1>figured that if they could improve the electron flow of

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:50.000
<v Speaker 1>the battery overall, then they might be able to get

0:35:50.040 --> 0:35:55.280
<v Speaker 1>around this problem so that recharging doesn't become an issue. Right. Uh,

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that that explosion thing that we mentioned earlier is still

0:35:57.960 --> 0:36:01.200
<v Speaker 1>at issue because when when you're dealing with you know,

0:36:01.280 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 1>these these carbon surfaces are allowing air to basically breathe

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 1>into the battery, and since water happens in air, Yeah,

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.480
<v Speaker 1>you have to find either a way of coating the

0:36:11.520 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>lithium inside the battery so that the water would not

0:36:13.920 --> 0:36:16.400
<v Speaker 1>react with the surface of lithium, or you'd have to

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 1>find a way of filtering the water out entirely, so

0:36:19.480 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 1>that membrane at the top end, yeah, hydrophobic membrane, that's

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.120
<v Speaker 1>what we'd like to call that it's scared of water.

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:30.399
<v Speaker 1>It pushes water out, So uh yeah, it's that that's

0:36:30.400 --> 0:36:34.360
<v Speaker 1>an issue. Now, there is a potential alternative to lithium

0:36:34.400 --> 0:36:38.400
<v Speaker 1>air batteries called sodium air batteries that are even they

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.359
<v Speaker 1>are they may not be able to hold as much

0:36:41.640 --> 0:36:45.960
<v Speaker 1>energy as a lithium a battery. It's a lower theoretical

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>energy density but a higher practical energy density at the

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:54.399
<v Speaker 1>current moment exactly, so current moment. So yeah, no, it's

0:36:54.480 --> 0:36:57.640
<v Speaker 1>it always happens. You can't get around it. But yeah,

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:01.759
<v Speaker 1>that's so that's a stability. But again, remember sodium is

0:37:01.760 --> 0:37:04.840
<v Speaker 1>probably that alkali metal groups, so against same issues. You

0:37:05.000 --> 0:37:08.600
<v Speaker 1>get that water in contact with sodium and battery goal

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>boom instead of instead of zap zap. Right. Uh. There's

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.320
<v Speaker 1>there's also research being done into what's being called solid

0:37:17.320 --> 0:37:20.080
<v Speaker 1>state batteries UM, which are kind of kind of the

0:37:20.160 --> 0:37:24.120
<v Speaker 1>lithium ion um solution to dry cell batteries. It's it's

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 1>using um thin layers of solid electrolyte instead of instead

0:37:28.480 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>of the liquid that most lithium ions use. Yeah, and

0:37:32.960 --> 0:37:36.160
<v Speaker 1>then there's a I read on Wired this interesting idea

0:37:36.239 --> 0:37:39.359
<v Speaker 1>of spray can batteries where each of the each of

0:37:39.400 --> 0:37:43.080
<v Speaker 1>the elements that you would find within a battery, the cathodeiana,

0:37:43.160 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 1>the electrolyte, all that is represented by a different can

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:50.880
<v Speaker 1>of uh sprayable material. So you could actually spray this

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 1>material onto different surfaces and make a battery that way.

0:37:54.760 --> 0:37:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And the idea being that this would allow you to

0:37:56.680 --> 0:38:01.000
<v Speaker 1>create batteries in devices that would break the battery designed

0:38:01.040 --> 0:38:03.520
<v Speaker 1>directly into the device, so you wouldn't have this blocky

0:38:03.560 --> 0:38:07.120
<v Speaker 1>battery compartment. Now, it's not saying that these batteries would

0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>be particularly efficient or powerful compared to what we have now,

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.840
<v Speaker 1>just that this would give us more opportunity to explore

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>different ways of shaping batteries so that they are part

0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:23.080
<v Speaker 1>of our electronics and not just you know, again, not

0:38:23.160 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>just some clunky thing that you have to find make room,

0:38:26.200 --> 0:38:28.239
<v Speaker 1>make room for it, right, right, and and also not

0:38:28.320 --> 0:38:31.319
<v Speaker 1>so heavy, um what would be terrific. That reminds me

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<v Speaker 1>of the nanocomposite paper batteries that some people are are

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<v Speaker 1>working on. These are these are composed of cellulose and

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<v Speaker 1>um an aligned carbon nanotubes woven together um and and

0:38:41.480 --> 0:38:45.640
<v Speaker 1>they're they're they're small, they're flat, they're flexible, they're implantable. Um,

0:38:45.880 --> 0:38:50.680
<v Speaker 1>they could hypothetically be put into medical devices. Yeah, these

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<v Speaker 1>could actually use biological fluid as ionic fluid. So it

0:38:54.880 --> 0:38:58.479
<v Speaker 1>ends up turning your body's fluids into the electrolyteed needs.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just making think of idiocracy. It's electrolyte. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that plants crave um. I was doing the

0:39:05.600 --> 0:39:07.879
<v Speaker 1>hand gesture and everything for those of you are fans

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.719
<v Speaker 1>of that movie. Then there's also uh, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Verge reported on bacteria that are able to transfer electricity,

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<v Speaker 1>and scientists had known about this for a while, but

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't sure about what the mechanism was, like how

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<v Speaker 1>did it transfer electricity? And they discovered that that there

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<v Speaker 1>were proteins on the bacteria surface that we're responsible for

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:35.560
<v Speaker 1>electron transfer. Uh. The bacteria is uh, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be a train wreck of a pronunciation

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<v Speaker 1>of me luck she wa nella oneidnisis. But anyway attaches

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<v Speaker 1>to rusty iron and other materials and breaks those down

0:39:49.239 --> 0:39:52.480
<v Speaker 1>and in the process of breaking down these materials, it

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:56.960
<v Speaker 1>releases electrons. So why are we interested in this? Because

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<v Speaker 1>by studying biological organisms that can emit electricity as part

0:40:02.960 --> 0:40:06.799
<v Speaker 1>of some process where it's consuming something, we might be

0:40:06.840 --> 0:40:10.799
<v Speaker 1>able to create biological batteries, and these are these are

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more of fuel cell really than a battery.

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<v Speaker 1>But and and to explain the difference, a fuel cell

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<v Speaker 1>is a device that you put fuel into and then

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<v Speaker 1>there's a chemical reaction that generates electricity, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>refill the fuel cells. So and you know, with a battery,

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:32.480
<v Speaker 1>what you're doing is you're using an electric uh or

0:40:32.560 --> 0:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>electrochemical reaction to harness electricity, and then you either have

0:40:37.040 --> 0:40:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to reverse the reaction in order to get the battery

0:40:39.960 --> 0:40:42.320
<v Speaker 1>to do it again, or you have to replace the battery.

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Fuel cell, you just refill it with fuel. So hydrogen

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 1>fuel cells are the ones that most people know about

0:40:48.600 --> 0:40:50.480
<v Speaker 1>because those the ones that we've talked about for things

0:40:50.560 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 1>like cars. Hydrogen fuel cells use hydrogen, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>most plentiful element on Earth, although you have to break

0:40:58.640 --> 0:41:01.480
<v Speaker 1>it up from other stuff. It doesn't it doesn't it's

0:41:01.520 --> 0:41:04.839
<v Speaker 1>not so plentiful in its pure state. It's usually it's

0:41:05.000 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 1>it's in water, which is very plentiful, and hydrocarbons as well,

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.720
<v Speaker 1>also very plentiful. But you have to separate the hydrogen outfast,

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>which requires energy a lot of energy. But once you've

0:41:14.160 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>got it, assuming that you've assuming that you found some

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of hydrogen mine where it's not going to take

0:41:20.320 --> 0:41:23.440
<v Speaker 1>you too much energy to get it free. Um, you

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>put hydrogen on one side of a membrane um that

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>has a catalyst on it, usually something really expensive like platinum,

0:41:31.760 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and then on the other side of the membrane you've

0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:38.160
<v Speaker 1>got oxygen. The membrane allows the hydrogen ions to pass through,

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:41.359
<v Speaker 1>but not hydrogen atoms. It has to lose the electrons

0:41:41.400 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 1>for it to pass through. The electrons go through a

0:41:43.600 --> 0:41:46.120
<v Speaker 1>circuit just like it would with a battery and combine

0:41:46.160 --> 0:41:49.359
<v Speaker 1>on the other side. So the hydrogen ions passed through

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:52.720
<v Speaker 1>the membrane and that meets up with the oxygen and says, hey,

0:41:53.280 --> 0:41:55.680
<v Speaker 1>you wanna you wanna go do something? I got my

0:41:55.719 --> 0:41:57.440
<v Speaker 1>buddy here, my buddy here, and I would love to

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:00.520
<v Speaker 1>take you out to dinner. And so the two hydrogen

0:42:00.560 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>take out the one oxygen to dinner. Meanwhile, the electrons

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 1>come back over through the circuit and recombined, and then

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:09.759
<v Speaker 1>you get water. So the output of a hydrogen based

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:14.719
<v Speaker 1>fuel cell is water, electricity, and heat, which is why

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.000
<v Speaker 1>every pretty sweet deal. Yeah, I think This is why

0:42:17.040 --> 0:42:19.520
<v Speaker 1>we would love to use it to fuel cars because

0:42:19.520 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 1>instead of giving off all these different greenhouse Yeah, now,

0:42:24.400 --> 0:42:27.960
<v Speaker 1>water vapor is technically a greenhouse gas, but it's water vapor.

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 1>It's not carbon dioxide, it's not methane or anything like that.

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>So that's why they're very attractive. But they are you know,

0:42:34.880 --> 0:42:37.480
<v Speaker 1>they're similar to batteries, but there there is a difference.

0:42:37.719 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>There is I do I do have a have a

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<v Speaker 1>bio battery that I was just reading about research last

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<v Speaker 1>November at m i T. Harvard and the Massachusetts Eye

0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:52.880
<v Speaker 1>and Ear Infirmary. Um the okay, so, so mammals have

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<v Speaker 1>in their inner ears chamber that's filled with ions and

0:42:56.880 --> 0:43:01.520
<v Speaker 1>um uh. These these ions produce use an electrical potential

0:43:01.880 --> 0:43:04.759
<v Speaker 1>which drives neural signals. And what this means is that

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:08.200
<v Speaker 1>this is the chamber in your ear that that lets

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:12.399
<v Speaker 1>the vibration of your ear drum be converted into an

0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 1>electrochemical signal that your brain can read and then interprets

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 1>the sound and interprets a sound. Um and so but

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>but but you've got this this inner chamber that's just

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:25.440
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with ions in it, which is a potential battery.

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Um and these researchers put UM put some electrodes in

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 1>there along with a very low power electronic device, and

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:38.080
<v Speaker 1>UM the chamber produced enough power with these electrodes to

0:43:38.160 --> 0:43:42.319
<v Speaker 1>power the device to wire wirelessly transmit data. That's pretty

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>cool to to an external drive. Now again we're talking

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:48.279
<v Speaker 1>about you know, we're not talking about stuff that's that's

0:43:48.719 --> 0:43:51.960
<v Speaker 1>advancing the power of batteries, but we are looking at

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.440
<v Speaker 1>brand new applications that could that are really exciting. Yeah,

0:43:55.520 --> 0:43:57.960
<v Speaker 1>it's just but again, this isn't the thing that's going

0:43:58.000 --> 0:44:01.560
<v Speaker 1>to make your cell phone last longer. Probably probably not.

0:44:02.080 --> 0:44:04.799
<v Speaker 1>It's it's really really really low power, but it would

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.960
<v Speaker 1>it would mostly be great for for medical advances in

0:44:08.160 --> 0:44:14.920
<v Speaker 1>um hearing aids. Yeah. So anyway, anyway, the advances we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, for the most part, are again just refining

0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:21.399
<v Speaker 1>the technology that we already have. It may turn out

0:44:21.480 --> 0:44:23.759
<v Speaker 1>that we just have to find a different means of

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<v Speaker 1>generating electricity that goes away from this electrochemical model entirely

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.839
<v Speaker 1>for us to get beyond this this bottleneck, or if

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<v Speaker 1>one of these other like the if the lithium air

0:44:34.400 --> 0:44:36.840
<v Speaker 1>or sodium ayor batteries work out, or if the micro

0:44:36.960 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 1>battery works out, maybe maybe that will be that that

0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:42.080
<v Speaker 1>would be a huge leap ahead, and if either of

0:44:42.080 --> 0:44:44.680
<v Speaker 1>those of any of those were any any more efficient

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:49.279
<v Speaker 1>chemical combination. Right, So there, we're not saying it's impossible.

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>We're just saying that it's been several decades and we've

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<v Speaker 1>only seen incremental improvements. So don't be surprised if that

0:44:57.440 --> 0:45:00.200
<v Speaker 1>stays the same. If it doesn't stay the same, aime,

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.719
<v Speaker 1>if we do have this huge leap, that's gonna be

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 1>awesome for everybody, and that's what everyone wants. Just you know,

0:45:07.080 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 1>be prepared to wait. Just what I'm saying, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that was a good explanation of batteries,

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<v Speaker 1>also what the future is and why it's kind of

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>lagging behind at least in respect to the way processors

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.680
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