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Speaker 3: As I mentioned earlier, the Commanders defeat.
Speaker 2: The Falcons and overtime they walk it off thirty to
Speaker 2: twenty four Jane Daniels thirty twenty four thirty six to
Speaker 2: twenty seven. The game winning touchdown to Zach Ertz won
Speaker 2: an exception, and he passed RG three for the most
Speaker 2: rushing yards in the season by rookie, and he broke
Speaker 2: the rookie record held by RG three. For that, Barry
Speaker 2: said team Jane Daniels had sixteen rushers, a buck twenty seven,
Speaker 2: twenty four, thirty six two twenty seven and three touchdowns.
Speaker 3: As he was great when he really needed to beat
Speaker 3: and he was great.
Speaker 2: And that last drive and that first drive of ot
Speaker 2: they got the ball and they never gave it back
Speaker 2: to the Falcons, so they're headed to the playoffs. Oh Joe,
Speaker 2: what did you like about what you saw from the
Speaker 2: Commanders and jayde Daniels the quarterback.
Speaker 5: Listen, not only Jane Daniels. I want to get Michael
Speaker 5: Pennick Gene some love too.
Speaker 1: I want to give him some love too, because there
Speaker 1: was a series towards the end of the game in
Speaker 1: which he had to get it done. He had the
Speaker 1: team down there to give them up the tie that game,
Speaker 1: to even get into overtime. So the fact that he
Speaker 1: was able to do that, Now, he did miss some throws,
Speaker 1: He did miss some throws on the drive, but they
Speaker 1: still were able to overcome those missthrows.
Speaker 5: He played a good game. I think he is the future.
Speaker 5: He is the future of that franchise over there in Atlanta.
Speaker 5: So boom. Now to that young bull from LSU, matter
Speaker 5: of fact, let's talk about that young bull. Who's the
Speaker 5: rookie of the year. Some people might say rock Bowlers,
Speaker 5: Rock Bowers, you know, yeah, he had a great season.
Speaker 5: But the rookie of the year in Jane Daniels.
Speaker 3: Rock Boles. With that team they won four games.
Speaker 1: And listen, Jane Daniels was effing phenomenals. Despite the pick,
Speaker 1: despite the pick, they were they were. They were able
Speaker 1: to overcome that and do what they need to do
Speaker 1: that last series on icing his vaninis, icing, icing his veins,
Speaker 1: throwing the ball three in the needle, using his legs
Speaker 1: when needed to. No, it was a good game. It
Speaker 1: was a good game from start to finish. And again,
Speaker 1: I just I just told you this last night. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is about the end of games,
Speaker 1: no matter who's playing, for some reason, it always comes
Speaker 1: down to the team whoever has the ball last. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it happened. What it happened with the Bangers. We just
Speaker 1: we just saw it last night. It happened again to night.
Speaker 2: Well, actually, you guys had the ball first and y'all
Speaker 2: missed the field goal. Remember you dunked the field goal.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're right, you got it. Don't mind it don't mind.
Speaker 3: You dunked the field goal.
Speaker 2: I don't even know if these games should have went
Speaker 2: to overtime because Jay and Daniels threw the ball right through.
Speaker 2: If the kids let the ball go right off the
Speaker 2: shoulder pad, the ball in his face, Yeah, so I
Speaker 2: don't oh Joe, I don't even know if we should
Speaker 2: have even went to overtime right And second of all,
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out when they got the ball
Speaker 2: and Atlanta at the end of the game, why wouldn't
Speaker 2: they They had two timeouts, why would they let that
Speaker 2: kind of time run off the clock and not burn
Speaker 2: one of them.
Speaker 1: I have a question I have as a head coach,
Speaker 1: Ree marsh right, as a head yes, do you have
Speaker 1: a spot? Do you have somebody in the ear that
Speaker 1: can help you with clock management? Is there anybody or
Speaker 1: is everything.
Speaker 2: That they're definitely they're normally somebody up there that's helping
Speaker 2: you with the call. As far as like throw the
Speaker 2: red flag, you should challenge that that was a catch,
Speaker 2: that wasn't a catch, that was a fumble, that was this,
Speaker 2: that was that. But I'm sure, oh Joe, you're looking, okay,
Speaker 2: you he's looking at the clock. Okay, they caught the ball,
Speaker 2: he didn't get out of bounds. Use a time out,
Speaker 2: you have to Why would you let that kind of
Speaker 2: time because now.
Speaker 3: You speed your you speed your quarterback.
Speaker 2: You don't need to exactly exactly. I said the same
Speaker 2: thing about Minnesota earlier. They had three timeouts. It wouldn't
Speaker 2: burn in of it. They don't rot, they don't carry over.
Speaker 2: It's not like you can get to the end of
Speaker 2: the year and you have a surplus of timeouts. You
Speaker 2: get to use them all in that game. Like that,
Speaker 2: you get a new set to start to have. I
Speaker 2: was confused by what Minnesota did. I was equally confused
Speaker 2: by what the Alatta Falcons did because I'm like, bro,
Speaker 2: you have two time outs, take one of them.
Speaker 3: It just didn't make any sense for me. I agree
Speaker 3: with you, Ojo. I thought Pinnicks played well given the circumstances.
Speaker 2: I was surprised that they didn't run b John Robinson
Speaker 2: a little bit more in the second half because he
Speaker 2: was he had he had it going in the first half.
Speaker 2: I mean, he ended up with seventeen carries for ninety
Speaker 2: yards and two touchdowns. But if I'm not mistaken, I
Speaker 2: think he had those two touchdowns might have had those
Speaker 2: in the first half, so but I was surprised that
Speaker 2: they didn't run him a little more. Pennis missing throws
Speaker 2: early in the game. I think he was probably a
Speaker 2: little juice o jo. You know, I'm excited. You know,
Speaker 2: I'm starting, I'm on the road. There's a lot of
Speaker 2: stake here. But you know, give him credit. He's gonna
Speaker 2: be He's gonna be a good player for the file Becers.
Speaker 2: I like, I like. I like the skill position player
Speaker 2: Drake London. He normally shows up a mooney. Kyle Pitts, Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, had five targets, four catches, forty four yards
Speaker 2: and a touchdown, a great touchdown to get the game
Speaker 2: two overtime go ahead.
Speaker 5: Can I say something please?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 1: For those in the chat, if you watch Kyle Pitts
Speaker 1: play when he was at Florida, understanding how special of
Speaker 1: a talent he is, how much of a mismatch or
Speaker 1: advantage that the Falcons have. Having a player like that
Speaker 1: that can not only line up at tight end, I
Speaker 1: call him a hybrid. I don't see him as much
Speaker 1: as a blocker. I call him a hybrid. He can
Speaker 1: play tight end, he can play receiver, he can line up,
Speaker 1: he can line up the slaughter of the number two,
Speaker 1: or he can take his ass out, why you know,
Speaker 1: and create a mismass for you. I don't understand why
Speaker 1: the Falcons don't use Kyle Pitts to his strengths and
Speaker 1: what you can do from an offensive standpoint. For the
Speaker 1: life of me, I don't understand how he has a
Speaker 1: rookie year that he has and he comes back despite
Speaker 1: his injury, despite the injury that they had, he was
Speaker 1: able to come back. He's still not being utilized the
Speaker 1: right way. And I just had to get that out
Speaker 1: there because the way they're using him, and knowing what
Speaker 1: he can do and what I've seen for him before,
Speaker 1: and knowing the talent that he has and how he
Speaker 1: can help that offense and make the quarterback job.
Speaker 5: A little easier. You can make job a little easier,
Speaker 5: but they just don't use him. I don't understand what
Speaker 5: is going on over there other than that go ahead.
Speaker 5: You can take you from that. I just had to
Speaker 5: add that tag bit, man, I don't understand it.
Speaker 3: The tight end Zach Hurt stepped up big today.
Speaker 2: He had seven targets, six catches, seventy two yards two
Speaker 2: touchdowns as a kiss had a touchdown, eight catches eighty
Speaker 2: five yards on nine targets. McLaurin, they couldn't get him going.
Speaker 2: They gave him seven targets. He only had one catch
Speaker 2: for five yards everything. We you know, they did a
Speaker 2: great job obviously to put aj Terrail on him. Yeah
Speaker 2: see if they did, okay, we're gonna say, hey, we'll
Speaker 2: run him, and that's what you have to do. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it's okay, hey take him and I put the ben
Speaker 2: opposed to him, put putting him on it, putting Terrail
Speaker 2: on his second best receiver, and then running coverage towards.
Speaker 5: McLaurin.
Speaker 2: McLaurin, Now the problem that you have is that you
Speaker 2: got a tight end that's feasted. Oh yeah, so now
Speaker 2: now you got to play some attention to him. You know,
Speaker 2: you got Jesse based the third and that's what that's
Speaker 2: what you got him there for. He's supposed to be
Speaker 2: to got into somewhat neutralized the tight end. But Urtz
Speaker 2: had some big catch today, big touchdown catches. Uh. You know,
Speaker 2: we know he went to the Pro Bowl a couple
Speaker 2: of years in Philly. But then they got Dallas Goddard
Speaker 2: and cal Kata and they were just like, Okay, we're
Speaker 2: just gonna move on because it doesn't make sense for
Speaker 2: us to have And then he went to Arizona and
Speaker 2: then they get Trey McBride and it's like, okay, it's
Speaker 2: time for you to move on here. So but I
Speaker 2: thought he played really really well today. But Washington looked
Speaker 2: really good. They're eleven and five with a chance to
Speaker 2: get to twelve and five playing the Cowboys at home.
Speaker 2: Oh excuse me, playing the Cowboys and Jerry were on
Speaker 2: the road. It'll be interesting to see because the Cowboys,
Speaker 2: we're talking about their little labor they quit today. Philly
Speaker 2: made them give it up. Philly made them give it up.
Speaker 2: I ain't know where around it. We talked about this
Speaker 2: last week. You see the difference between when you don't
Speaker 2: have expectations and when you win a couple of games
Speaker 2: and now people expect you to go out there and compete.
Speaker 2: Because Jerry was very, very happy that Mike McCarthy got
Speaker 2: this guy. These guys ready to compete and to play hard.
Speaker 2: And the moment Phillis started leaning on them, they laid
Speaker 2: it down. They laid it down because I mean they
Speaker 2: got a couple of a little chieving late in the game,
Speaker 2: but fairly opened up a can on them, and Quan
Speaker 2: did what Sa Kawan was supposed to do. But I'm
Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm excited for the Washington football team.
Speaker 2: They got that stint, which is Daniel Snyder out of there.
Speaker 2: They've done a great job of drafting. They got the quarterback.
Speaker 2: They had nice pieces in place, but they got a quarterback.
Speaker 2: They brought an offensive coordinator in that's good at handling
Speaker 2: young quarterbacks, putting and and and having an offense that's
Speaker 2: very quarterback friendly that utilizes what that quarterback does. Remember
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray did a lot of what we
Speaker 2: see Jay and Daniels did doing uh this season, and
Speaker 2: Kyler Murray was Rookie of the Year. So I don't
Speaker 2: think anybody is surprised by that. I think I think
Speaker 2: what you call him. I don't think Colin them made
Speaker 2: the playoffs his rookie season. I think they made it
Speaker 2: a second season. But Jane Daniels six team carries a
Speaker 2: buck twenty two excuse me, buck twenty seven, twenty four
Speaker 2: to thirty six two twenty seven, three touchdowns one in exception,
Speaker 2: and the game winning touchdown in overt times to zach
Speaker 2: Ertz As they walk it off and they win thirty
Speaker 2: to twenty four, and they make the playoffs for the
Speaker 2: first time since twenty twenty Oh Shoe. The Vikings defeated
Speaker 2: the Packers twenty seven, twenty five. Sam Donald had a
Speaker 2: career day three hundred and seventy seven yards by can
Speaker 2: give themselves a chance to secure the number one seed.
Speaker 2: All they have to do is beat the Detroit Lions
Speaker 2: next week. Passed nine games in a row. Their only
Speaker 2: loss of this season two point at home to the
Speaker 2: Lions and a ten point loss on the road at
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Not what that game is they lost to
Speaker 2: the Rams. I don't know if it was in Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: But Sam Donald was sensational today again. Thirty three or
Speaker 2: forty three, three seventy seven, three touchdowns one in exception.
Speaker 3: He was sat one time Aaron.
Speaker 2: They didn't run the ball really well, so they basically
Speaker 2: had to put the ball in his hands and say, bro,
Speaker 2: you got to deliver us.
Speaker 3: And he absolutely did that.
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson was eight of eight for ninety two, Naylor
Speaker 2: was five for eighty one on the touchdown. Adamson was
Speaker 2: six and sixty nine on the touchdown, cam Akers caught
Speaker 2: a touchdown. But the Minnesota Vikings, I mean, think about it.
Speaker 2: You've got Minnesota at fourteen and two. What comes that
Speaker 2: fourteen is is what thirteen and two? Thirteen and two
Speaker 2: Detroit they played tomorrow night? Otoe they got the forty
Speaker 2: nine tomorrow night. Yeah, so you might for the for
Speaker 2: the for all the marbles, you might have a fourteen
Speaker 2: and two Minnesota taking on a fifteen of fourteen and.
Speaker 5: Two Detroit Lions.
Speaker 1: A listen, with all the marbles on the table, everything
Speaker 1: on the table, that's gonna that's gonna be a really
Speaker 1: good game. That's gonna be a really good game. And
Speaker 1: outside outside of outside of that game, we'll see that
Speaker 1: we're getting next to you his Vikings. This Viker's peking
Speaker 1: game was really good.
Speaker 2: Oh y yeah, the NFL, you're not to cut you off.
Speaker 2: The NFL release the schedule. Uh, Cincinnati and the Steelers
Speaker 2: are Saturday night. Detroit and Minnesota is Sunday night. So
Speaker 2: primetime action with a lot riding on it, that's what
Speaker 2: you want to have happen. The NFL did one of
Speaker 2: the best things they've done with the scheduling. So look,
Speaker 2: Buffalo might probably not gonna play anybody. Oh, they've secured
Speaker 2: the number two seed. Kansas City's made it abundantly clear
Speaker 2: they're not playing anybody. They're the number one seed. So
Speaker 2: they're gonna make sure their guys are healthy. So guess what,
Speaker 2: you don't play this week. We got a bye week,
Speaker 2: So you got to give a guy like a Chris Jones.
Speaker 2: You get guys that have some bumps and bruises. Now
Speaker 2: you give Patrick Mahomes two weeks to get that ankle,
Speaker 2: and it's gonna be you get Hollywood Brown of the
Speaker 2: opportunity to get some more running to get that shoulder.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So but this was really good. Minnesota look, Minnesota look good.
Speaker 2: Minnesota looked good. Uh, there could be a there, Yo,
Speaker 2: what who green Bay played? Green Bay played Chicago right
Speaker 2: last game of the season, because everybody played division games
Speaker 2: last game of season, Yes, at home, So the greed
Speaker 2: think about the green Bay could be twelve and five,
Speaker 2: Minnesota could be fourteen and three or fifteen and two.
Speaker 2: Detroit could be fourteen and three fifteen and two, and
Speaker 2: they're all in the same division.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and then that's crazy how the NFC at
Speaker 1: the NFC dominated the way it did and looked the
Speaker 1: way it did. This this goddamn season, they've been playing
Speaker 1: some goddamn good football. That goddamn Sam Donald boy played.
Speaker 1: Damn Donald was cooking today. You hear me on, yeah,
Speaker 1: and you not listening to me. Sam Donald was cooking today.
Speaker 1: Remember when Oprah was keeping out.
Speaker 5: Cars on that at one show. You get a car,
Speaker 5: you get a car.
Speaker 1: Man Donald told the receivers Addison Naylor and god damn Jefferson,
Speaker 1: you get the ball, you get a ball, You get
Speaker 1: the ball, Hawkinson, So let me get some of that team, now, listen.
Speaker 1: They weren't able to listen. We god damn packaged good
Speaker 1: job stopping the run. They didn't get off of the run.
Speaker 1: And god damn, I'm gotta forget forget his name. Damn
Speaker 1: Sam Donald had to put the team on his back
Speaker 1: in there, and he did just that. He did just that,
Speaker 1: So listen, I'm excited for him. I don't know what
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like when they played the goddamn Lions,
Speaker 1: you know, because the Lions already depleted, already depleted. Would
Speaker 1: it comes to from a defensive side of the ball. Hell,
Speaker 1: they might put up motherfucking fifty points apiece. Mm, they
Speaker 1: might put up fifty points apiece. I mean, just like
Speaker 1: I'm I'm so excited right now, I'm talking so goddamn fast,
Speaker 1: I can't even get out what I really want to
Speaker 1: goddamn say, did you you heard what Gire Alexander said
Speaker 1: after the game?
Speaker 3: Not what he's saying.
Speaker 1: Gyr Alexander told reporters post game that he played against
Speaker 1: the Packer.
Speaker 5: I mean, if he played the Packers, they would have
Speaker 5: beaten the Vikings if he had played in the game.
Speaker 3: Let's see, the Packers.
Speaker 2: Were fitish with a losing record of the division that
Speaker 2: on the only North and the only NFC North wind
Speaker 2: came against Chicago. Okay, the Packers are combined all five
Speaker 2: against the top three teams in the NFC, the Eagles,
Speaker 2: the Lions, and the Vikings. Hell, look at those records. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean the Eagles have lost only three games, so
Speaker 2: they're thirteen to three, right. The Lions have lost on
Speaker 2: a two game. Minnesota's lost on the two game, so
Speaker 2: it ain't no shame in losing them, right right?
Speaker 5: I understand?
Speaker 2: Jay A Lexander told the posts out of the game
Speaker 2: they had to play the gainst Green Bay would have
Speaker 2: beaten the Bike Beers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Minnesota is extremely lucky. I was injured.
Speaker 2: Man, if I'm playing, we beat them by two scores
Speaker 2: and I'm not hit and I'm hitting the gritty twice
Speaker 2: at minimum lucky.
Speaker 3: That's all. Listen.
Speaker 5: I like his confidence. I really like his confidence. Listen.
Speaker 1: Ji is one of the one of the better coins
Speaker 1: in the league who hasn't really been able to be
Speaker 1: out there due to injury. I think it's something wrong
Speaker 1: with his knee. Anytime him and Justin Jefferson do match up,
Speaker 1: it's always the show. Sometimes news is sometimes he wins,
Speaker 1: but the fact that he goes out there competes against
Speaker 1: one of the better receivers in the NFL is a
Speaker 1: really really good thing, and it's always entertaining and it's
Speaker 1: always fun.
Speaker 5: Never malicious. It's never malicious.
Speaker 1: It's not like it's not like when you get a
Speaker 1: lattim more than Mike Evans, who fellas out there that
Speaker 1: respect each other, and they.
Speaker 3: Gonna go to work.
Speaker 5: They gonna go to work. And I like what he's saying.
Speaker 5: But I don't think even if you did play, I.
Speaker 2: Mean, I don't think they beat him by two scores.
Speaker 2: I mean I mean, I mean, you only lost by
Speaker 2: you only lost by two points. But you to guard
Speaker 2: one guy. I mean, so if you take Jetta, who's
Speaker 2: gonna deal with Addison?
Speaker 5: Right? Right?
Speaker 1: And obviously the people that had to deal with Addison
Speaker 1: had to deal with Naylor. I mean they couldn't stop
Speaker 1: him either. So either way it go, you could you can.
Speaker 1: You can only do so much as one player. But
Speaker 1: I love his confidence. He's always been that way, and
Speaker 1: he's always been been very brad and had that bravado
Speaker 1: and and moxie.
Speaker 5: I like that word moxie. I use it every chance.
Speaker 1: Oh Jefferson, I just I just I just saw what
Speaker 1: you send me. My bad I'm too excited. That's why
Speaker 1: when I get excited, my bad baby, yeah Baduh.
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson put his jewel with the other family jewels.
Speaker 2: Justin Jefferson shoved his million dollar chain into his crotch
Speaker 2: after the chain fell off in the middle of a play.
Speaker 3: I like that, Hey, hey, hey, what your man? Look here?
Speaker 2: I know I like having a little juror, but I
Speaker 2: don't know I draw a line. I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: know about no million dollars.
Speaker 5: Now, listen, did he say it was a million dollars
Speaker 5: or did we just put a price point on what it.
Speaker 3: Is twitter put?
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, looking at the juror anyway where,
Speaker 2: it probably got somewhere between one hundred and fifty and
Speaker 2: a quarter of a milone though.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, but that mean, I mean it's
Speaker 5: a bit much.
Speaker 3: And plus he got plus what he got in his mouth.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean listen, Jenner's got stopped. Jenny
Speaker 5: got style.
Speaker 1: That's the way he played. He always got the diamonds
Speaker 1: in his mouth. Chase with the diamond grill as well.
Speaker 3: Lamar got one too.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Lamarin Lamark and Lamar Wo won.
Speaker 3: To Florida, Florida. See Florida started the grill Florida.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, wa Ware you at Ware, you at Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember them days, man, remember I had them out
Speaker 1: full too, huh yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: But it was it was it was a very good game.
Speaker 2: The guys, Like you said, the guys are stylish out there.
Speaker 2: I mean it's hard to find somebody playing that skill
Speaker 2: position that don't have on jewelry. Yeah, I mean they
Speaker 2: got I mean, I mean some guys have on bracelet
Speaker 2: and you don't have on you know, you know, bracelet.
Speaker 2: Some guys have on change. Obviously you mentioned, you mentioned
Speaker 2: the grills, but that's where we're headed now. I remember
Speaker 2: when I first though, and a lot of the guys
Speaker 2: that are married having the rubber the wedding bands off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess y'all want everybody to know y'all married.
Speaker 3: But it was a good game. It was a good game.
Speaker 2: I mean, this is what you expect. Two division rivals,
Speaker 2: O shoe. They're very close. I mean leven. I mean
Speaker 2: one was leven and four heading into the game. The
Speaker 2: other was thirteen and two heading into the game. So
Speaker 2: you expected a close. I mean, look, it got close,
Speaker 2: but I mean the score says twenty seven to twenty
Speaker 2: five for Minnesota got the ball.
Speaker 3: It wasn't you know.
Speaker 2: I thought Minnesota once they got controlled, once he got
Speaker 2: cooking half that second quarter and into the third, just
Speaker 2: goes to show you. Yeah, Carolina had Sam Donald and
Speaker 2: they have Baker Mayfield. I don't know if y'all know,
Speaker 2: but Maker Mayfield got like four or five games where
Speaker 2: he thrown four touchdowns this year.
Speaker 3: Now he threw five today with over three hundred yards.
Speaker 2: Sam Donald through three today he's thrown thirty five touchdowns,
Speaker 2: which is the third most for Viking.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: So clearly these guys can play given the right sort
Speaker 2: of circumstances.
Speaker 3: Now, look, they would devoid of talent. They didn't have
Speaker 3: this level of.
Speaker 2: Talent in Carolina, so you have to take Look, I'm
Speaker 2: not saying that it's all Carolina fault, but Mike Evan
Speaker 2: and Chris Godwin.
Speaker 3: You look at what they got in town for now.
Speaker 3: Even though Chris Godwin is gone.
Speaker 2: Down, they still have quality receivers and they have a
Speaker 2: nice running game. You look at what they would obviously,
Speaker 2: look at what Sam Darnall's throwing to. He got Aaron
Speaker 2: Jones in his backfield. He got Hokinson, who's.
Speaker 3: Been a Pro Bowl player.
Speaker 2: He's got Jetta, He's got Addison, he's got Naylor. I mean, look,
Speaker 2: he's got guys that he can throw the ball to.
Speaker 2: But it just goes to show you, I don't care
Speaker 2: without talent around you. Now you got some guys now,
Speaker 2: guys like a ma Home, the guys like some guys
Speaker 2: can like Brady, They used to elevate, could elevate, you know,
Speaker 2: not if you're in the league, you're good, But everybody
Speaker 2: is not gonna be a Jeda. Everybody's not gonna be
Speaker 2: Randy Moss t o so for the song, But what
Speaker 2: a great quarterback like a Mahomes, he can elevate those
Speaker 2: guys play. When you're not that level of player, you
Speaker 2: need guys to elevate your plate. And that's what the
Speaker 2: great skilled position players around you are able to do.
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield has been better since he got the Tampa
Speaker 2: than even when he was in Cleveland because he got
Speaker 2: more talent around him. Sam Donald was never going to
Speaker 2: be this good and the Jets and at Carolina because
Speaker 2: he didn't have this level of talent around it. And
Speaker 2: so if you go out and sign a Sam Donald,
Speaker 2: look at what you have. Do you have the roster
Speaker 2: that's equipped to help continue to elevate because if you don't.
Speaker 2: He's not Mahomes, he's not Burrough, he's not Lamar, he's
Speaker 2: not Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: That's not what he is.
Speaker 2: And I'm not Finn sit here and tell you. Because
Speaker 2: he's having and he's having an outstanding year. I'll give
Speaker 2: credit what credits do, but I don't look at him
Speaker 2: as a guy that's a multiplier no matter who you
Speaker 2: put out there. Oh, Joe, He's gonna make them times too.
Speaker 2: The right, that's not what that's Lamar, that's what. That's
Speaker 2: reserved for the top four or five quarterbacks in the league,
Speaker 2: and it's not for him.
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 1: You know what I call those I call those Tier
Speaker 1: one quarterbacks. Okay, Tier one quarterbacks are your are elites
Speaker 1: that regards to what you put around them. They always
Speaker 1: gonna get the job done. We get the job done.
Speaker 1: Then if you have then you have your tier two quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Your tier two quarterbacks sometimes they need a little help.
Speaker 1: Now they're good, but they're not great. Now you put
Speaker 1: you put some good receivers around them, you know, like
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. You got some Mike Evans.
Speaker 3: You know, yes, you got to.
Speaker 2: They can have a game where they can have a
Speaker 2: game or two whether they are great, rest but more
Speaker 2: times than not, you need to have that head around
Speaker 2: and you get what you get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yep, we got here.
Speaker 2: Oh the Eagles, the NFC, so we've gone hold on,
Speaker 2: We've gone like twenty one straight years without having a
Speaker 2: back to back NFC East chap So the last time
Speaker 2: we had a back to back EDESC East Chep was
Speaker 2: two thousand and three, two thousand and four was the Eagles, correct,
Speaker 2: But let me go ahevery kennee Ria sa.
Speaker 3: Kwan Barker hit the magic number two K. He's at
Speaker 3: two k five.
Speaker 2: One game to go against the Giants, the team that
Speaker 2: didn't want me, the team that says I couldn't help
Speaker 2: them win. No game I'm trying to go get. I'm
Speaker 2: trying to work for two oh five. I'm trying to
Speaker 2: get twenty two oh five.
Speaker 3: Leave no doubt.
Speaker 2: Now, hey, y'all put me back at the MVP conversation.
Speaker 2: Me personally, I think it's a two horse race between
Speaker 2: Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 3: It'll be interesting. So what's the what's the odds? Now?
Speaker 3: As far as Lamar and Josh Allen, is Josh still favorite?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 5: And I got a question for you when you get
Speaker 5: that answer, damn it.
Speaker 2: Grew because remember it was just of minus one sixty
Speaker 2: last week. We'll see, Oh, Joe Jerremy huh.
Speaker 1: I had a question for you before you even start.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, see how many how many yards is I
Speaker 1: know he's at two thousand.
Speaker 5: How many yards you need to break area?
Speaker 3: He needs one hundred and one yard? So here we go.
Speaker 1: Now, we talked about the we talk about the MVP race. Obviously, yes,
Speaker 1: there's a two man race, the two horse race. Actually yes,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen. What happened Despite what Josh
Speaker 1: Allen and Lamar Jackson have done this season, if Sakon
Speaker 1: goes out there and gets one hundred and two yards, anybody,
Speaker 1: everything is the record.
Speaker 2: What happens with the MVP race? Said, I still think
Speaker 2: it's between Josh and Lamar, no matter what I do believe.
Speaker 2: I do believe that say Quality is going to be
Speaker 2: offensive Player of the year.
Speaker 5: Okay, I mean he's off of the Player of the
Speaker 5: year right now.
Speaker 2: Especially, that's what I believe. I believe, Oh yo, personally,
Speaker 2: I believe that's the war that he'll get.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 3: But when you look at you look.
Speaker 2: At Lamar, Lamar has forty what forty three total touchdowns
Speaker 2: right and eight turnovers. Josh Allen has like forty one
Speaker 2: total touchdowns and nine turnovers. So you see their neck
Speaker 2: and neck, and then you obviously you got Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: It had been very interesting had Joe Burrow had five
Speaker 2: or fewer losses. Now we gotta now, we got to
Speaker 2: have a real hardness now, we got to have a
Speaker 2: real healthy conversation.
Speaker 3: That's because we know what Joe B.
Speaker 2: If Joe B has a chance to go for five thousand, yeah,
Speaker 2: five thousand, and it's gonna be a very similar situation
Speaker 2: to Drew Brees when he had all those five thousand
Speaker 2: yard seasons and he only came away.
Speaker 3: I mean a lot of times he didn't get nothing.
Speaker 2: So it's gonna be very very interesting to see, say
Speaker 2: quon some past two thousand rushing yards, he's one or
Speaker 2: one hundred and one yards away from breaking Eric Dickson
Speaker 2: record that was set in nineteen eighty four twenty one
Speaker 2: oh five. There will be temptations to let sa Quan
Speaker 2: go for the record I'm going for though, Joe, I'm sorry, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: And listen.
Speaker 1: You know what I don't like, uh, especially when it
Speaker 1: comes to things like this. I hate internally, especially when
Speaker 1: it comes to records that are being broken. When it
Speaker 1: comes to players that have his centives in the contract.
Speaker 1: I've always heard about ten means doing funny things, doing
Speaker 1: funny things.
Speaker 5: I've heard the stories. I'm sure you've heard the stories
Speaker 5: as well.
Speaker 1: They don't allow players to get certain incentives, they'll take
Speaker 1: them out the game, or they don't give them the
Speaker 1: amount of carriages or the amount of casses that they
Speaker 1: need to hit. I hope they don't play any type
Speaker 1: of game to sake one, I know they're winning, and
Speaker 1: then my game is the fact that they are winning,
Speaker 1: or we might put you off the game to make
Speaker 1: sure you don't reach that instead of breaking that record,
Speaker 1: because we don't want to get hurt. We want to
Speaker 1: save you for the playoffs. But you don't know if
Speaker 1: he got that weird funny stuff. Huh you think he
Speaker 1: got our I know, Damn well, I'm not putting that record.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting on record.
Speaker 2: Okay, if I break, if I break Mega trial, if
Speaker 2: I'm a wide receiver, not break Mega trial record I get,
Speaker 2: I get a million dollars.
Speaker 3: But I ain't putting that in there.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm just saying if it ain't. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I was just using the incentive as an example
Speaker 1: of what some teams do sometimes players.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying that I know somebody. Yeah it happened
Speaker 5: to me, right, what happened to use?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Oh so you know one hundred thousand dollars in my contract? Right?
Speaker 2: I had one hundred and fifteen yards and two touchdowns
Speaker 2: and a half. I needed five yards to get a
Speaker 2: foul and then catch another ball. Didn't get another target.
Speaker 3: You see how they do.
Speaker 1: That's why we're just saying, I hope they don't play
Speaker 1: that game with Sayquon and trying to pull him out
Speaker 1: and not giving, not giving the rushes and the carriers
Speaker 1: that he needs to break that record.
Speaker 2: I'm getting that olo. And I just saw Jonathan Taylor
Speaker 2: go have like eighteen cares for one twenty five. Oh,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get that. I'm gonna say, look now it's
Speaker 2: on y'all. Y'all can give me twenty five cares and
Speaker 2: let me get this number at the half and I
Speaker 2: set that down. But I'm not coming out till I
Speaker 2: get this record. He too close, everybody to my old
Speaker 2: Saint Quanda here being selfish. He sacrificed. Yeah, he blogged.
Speaker 2: He does everything that you ask.
Speaker 3: Him to be. He's been a model teammate.
Speaker 2: I don't know Saquan person, but looking at his person
Speaker 2: out and the way he interacts, his teammates love him.
Speaker 2: They got him holding up in the locker room, in
Speaker 2: the offensive line. They doing things for him. He never
Speaker 2: got when he the Giants. The Giants organization appreciates him
Speaker 2: more than he ever got appreciated in New York. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm not saying the fans, fans, this is not a
Speaker 2: knock on, y'all. I'm saying the organization. I'm saying tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I'm saying the tissues. I'm saying, Sean or who the
Speaker 2: general man, whoever, they never showed what the Eagles organization
Speaker 2: has shown him. I'm not talking about the players, because
Speaker 2: I'm sure the players loved him. I'm just talking about
Speaker 2: from the ownership front office. I'm gonna stop it it there.
Speaker 2: You see the way they they they embraced him, from
Speaker 2: Lewie to how Roseman, the offensive line, and he includes
Speaker 2: them in everything.
Speaker 1: I'm getting that damn record. That's that they gotta. They
Speaker 1: gotta let him get it on. I just know the
Speaker 1: dame that they do play. You've experienced it before. I
Speaker 1: heard the horror stories about it, and he sees so
Speaker 1: he's so close to it. I just hope they run
Speaker 1: the offense through him. I don't I don't know the
Speaker 1: extended the injury. I'm not sure what Kenny Pigot is
Speaker 1: going through, but they've got to lean on him. They
Speaker 1: got to ly know saquon next week. Man, So I'm
Speaker 1: hoping he breaks the record. Yeah, that that'd be very
Speaker 1: exciting for him.
Speaker 3: Uh can you do? We know if he got any
Speaker 3: it'll come out.
Speaker 2: We'll know if he has any incentive if they were
Speaker 2: to win the division, if they win the NFC Championship,
Speaker 2: I mean, he wins the MVP, I'm sure he probably
Speaker 2: have a five hundred thousand dollars bonus or a million
Speaker 2: dollar bonus. He bes Offensive Player of the Year, he's MVP,
Speaker 2: he's super Bowl MVP. They make the Super Bowl, that
Speaker 2: win the NFC, that win the NFC's I'm sure he
Speaker 2: has some incentives in there, But I'm getting that damn record.
Speaker 2: Damn y'all excuse me, I'm too close. So, Joe, I
Speaker 2: mean the likelihood of you ever, I mean, how much
Speaker 2: was it he got five hundred k for reaching two thousand,
Speaker 2: two fifty to wish the NFC championship, right, two fifty
Speaker 2: the wish to Super Bowl? What about MVP? Super Bowl
Speaker 2: MVP MVP. Oh yeah, he see he about to get
Speaker 2: some Oh yeah, he see. He gonna be a unanimous
Speaker 2: pick for First Team All Pro. That's five hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: He got two k that's for another five hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: He made the Pro Bow, that's two fifty. If you
Speaker 2: make the NFC Championship game, Uh, that's another two fifty.
Speaker 2: So we got an opportunity to get two million dollars
Speaker 2: with incentives.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's that's a good thing. That's that's that's
Speaker 5: that's a very good thing.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 5: We just turned the air on many.
Speaker 3: Hold on the sun.
Speaker 5: Just turned air on man. Of course, cold as hell along.
Speaker 2: H Kenny Pickett was ten or fifteen, one hundred and
Speaker 2: forty three yards one touchdown. McKee came in, Tanner McKee
Speaker 2: came in through. He was three or four fifty four
Speaker 2: yards two touchdown. As we mentioned Saquon, they ran the
Speaker 2: ball forty two times for bucks seventy nine. You knew
Speaker 2: they were going to lean heavily on Saquan. You don't
Speaker 2: want to put your quarterback in harm's way. Cowboys can
Speaker 2: get up your quarterback a little bit, although they did
Speaker 2: a great job of keeping him clean today. Sa Kwan
Speaker 2: thirty one carries a buck sixty seven forty two rush
Speaker 2: attemps for the team one hundred and seventy nine yards
Speaker 2: one touchdown. That was a run back Kenny Pickett Davonte
Speaker 2: Smith six for a buck twenty. That's the way you
Speaker 2: bounced back, Davonte. That's the way you bounce back. After
Speaker 2: what transpired, you can't get that back, but you could
Speaker 2: be like, hey, i''m y'all gonna put me back in
Speaker 2: that situation, and I promise y'all won't let y'all down.
Speaker 2: AJ three for thirty six and a touchdown. AJ got excited,
Speaker 2: threw the ball up in the stands. What he didn't
Speaker 2: know that was Tannel McKee's first touchdown. Yeah, so he said, hey,
Speaker 2: let me get that back. I'll give you a jersey
Speaker 2: off of my back if you let me get that
Speaker 2: ball back.
Speaker 3: That was so that was dope.
Speaker 5: That was That was a dope experience.
Speaker 3: A dope exchanged.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 5: I'm glad, I'm glad. I'm glad the guy in the
Speaker 5: in the in the sand was willing to get the
Speaker 5: ball back with that.
Speaker 3: And it was a quarterback for jersey you're talking about.
Speaker 3: That's the jersey.
Speaker 2: Oh, ain't no questioning this jersey right off the man back. Yeah,
Speaker 2: y'all sorry, in the stadium makes she decided too.
Speaker 3: He did so.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, that was an unbelievable uh moment there and
Speaker 2: the Cowboy I'm you know what, because this serves the
Speaker 2: Cowboys right because for the longest time.
Speaker 3: Oh, Cooper Rush is better than that.
Speaker 2: Kerry could have saved that money that he paid, that gave,
Speaker 2: but gave fifteen twenty million to Cooper Rush. Looking bro
Speaker 2: compared to Cooper Rush. Dak Is Patrick Mahomes compared to
Speaker 2: Cooper Rush. Now, y'all need to stop this Cowboy fans, right,
Speaker 2: Cooper Cooper Rush was a free agent nobody. He went
Speaker 2: back to the Cowboys, which I said was going to
Speaker 2: happen as a guy. He's a jag, just another guy.
Speaker 2: And that's not I don't say that in a disrespectful
Speaker 2: but that's okay because you got fifteen hundred guys in
Speaker 2: the NFL.
Speaker 3: Everybody is not great. There's room for everybody.
Speaker 2: But we've got to stop because we see guys have
Speaker 2: a few good games and talk about there's a second coming.
Speaker 5: No, he's not, he never was, he never will be.
Speaker 5: They crying him too early on, they crying him too.
Speaker 2: Early, Yes, but I want to know, I mean, I
Speaker 2: think they might give Mike MacArthur contract extension because he
Speaker 2: had them playing hard.
Speaker 3: Remember last week, Remember last week, Jakbine, he.
Speaker 2: Kept this team together. They keep battling forty one to seven. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you see what happening with expectations. That's the killer of dreams. Expectations. See,
Speaker 2: when you have none, you go under the radar.
Speaker 3: You see.
Speaker 2: That's why I tell guys, when you see guys make
Speaker 2: all Pro make Pro Bowls every single year, those guys
Speaker 2: you're keeping out on. It's easy to make the Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl once.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's easy to.
Speaker 2: Make it all protein one. But now they got filmed.
Speaker 2: Now they know what you can do. Now they game
Speaker 2: plan to stop your ass.
Speaker 3: Can you make it again? Can you make it again?
Speaker 3: Can you make it again?
Speaker 5: And that's that's the difficult part because what makes players great,
Speaker 5: what makes players elite with mixed players, high paid value
Speaker 5: players for their teams, is when they know you good,
Speaker 5: when the game plan for you and you do your
Speaker 5: job week in and week out at a consumer year
Speaker 5: in and year out, and I don't you know, you know,
Speaker 5: it's no so funny when it comes to great players
Speaker 5: like the Mahomes and the tom Brady's and uh yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 5: people understand how difficult. It is to remain at the
Speaker 5: highest level possibly can when the game plan to stop
Speaker 5: stop you. It's what they do every week, every week.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's never been a game plan that wasn't
Speaker 2: built to stop Jerry Rice. There's never been a game
Speaker 2: plan that wasn't designed, that wasn't designed to block Lawrence Taylor,
Speaker 2: or to block Ray Lewis, or to stop this guy,
Speaker 2: to stop that guy.
Speaker 3: And for twenty years, remember.
Speaker 2: Jerry had one thousand yards at forty. There ain't no
Speaker 2: receivers playing past thirty five.
Speaker 5: He's forty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brady after Brady after two thousand and two.
Speaker 2: For the most part, every game plan, we gotta stop twelve,
Speaker 2: How do we stop twelve? How do we stop twelve?
Speaker 2: How do we stop eighteen? How do we stop eighteen?
Speaker 2: How do we get this? How do we get the
Speaker 2: guards up on ray? How do we make sure we
Speaker 2: have accounted for how do we block hot TJ Watt,
Speaker 2: Miles Garrett? And every single year they kick you gass.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing about it, when it comes to
Speaker 1: twelve and eighteen, twelve and eighteen, it's so special and
Speaker 1: we're not talking about skill set and just being gifted
Speaker 1: it's about they beating you here. Huh they I think
Speaker 1: you Yeah, So whatever whatever you're doing defensively, they already
Speaker 1: had it.
Speaker 5: They already envisited in their head.
Speaker 1: No matter what kind of well, no matter what you do,
Speaker 1: no matter what defense, no matter what decide is you
Speaker 1: run whatever, no bluffing, all that didn't even matter because
Speaker 1: they already know because they have played it a million
Speaker 1: times in They had before they even run the plane.
Speaker 5: I know, I know what I'm getting based off.
Speaker 3: You got to go to the SOO.
Speaker 2: You know you got to go to the cause. Guess what, Hey,
Speaker 2: you know what MANO got in trouble. I know who
Speaker 2: you're gonna call. Let me tap that person line. Why
Speaker 2: don't you THEO didn't I tell you? They already know
Speaker 2: what you're gonna do when they come out in this formation.
Speaker 2: They know your check to it, so they got to
Speaker 2: check the count of yours.
Speaker 3: You beat them. You did a hell of a job.
Speaker 2: Normally had to knock them on the ass because you're
Speaker 2: not gonna out think them. You got to you gotta
Speaker 2: put your Helmut up under. Oh yeah, well, congratulations Eagles.
Speaker 2: Uh they get it done without Jalen Hurts hopefully we'll
Speaker 2: we'll see. Uh, they're still fighting. There's an outside chance
Speaker 2: they can get the number two seed, but in all
Speaker 2: likelihood is probably gonna be. It'll be interesting to see
Speaker 2: because they're they're already lost three games, So if Minnesota
Speaker 2: lose it, we're under the assumption.
Speaker 3: That Detroit wins right tomorrow night against the forty nine ers.
Speaker 5: So come on, come on, now, we're under the assumption
Speaker 5: that the yeah, Detroit wins. Are they are they they starters?
Speaker 3: Oh no, they playing their starters. They're playing their starters.
Speaker 5: Okay, they're gonna win.
Speaker 1: They gonna I mean, that's no disrespect to the forty niners.
Speaker 1: In their defense, that's no disrespect to them. But Ben Johnson,
Speaker 1: that creativity and just too much Aman Ross, Saint Brown
Speaker 1: and Jamison Williams and obviously Montgomery's out. But Jami Man, listen,
Speaker 1: they're going to win. They're gonna put up points, They're
Speaker 1: gonna score a lot. That's what they do. That's what
Speaker 1: they've done the entirety of the season. The forty nine
Speaker 1: ers are probably gonna put up a good fight. But
Speaker 1: at some point you already know what Dan Cam' gonna do.
Speaker 5: You know, Dan Campbell Dan Soup. I'm gonna call him
Speaker 5: Dan Sup. Campbell, you already know what they're gonna do.
Speaker 3: I pull it down.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna run a score but up and I mean
Speaker 1: no disrespect to you, but this is about my team.
Speaker 1: This is about changing the culture over here in Detroit,
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm gonna keep doing.
Speaker 2: The Eagles fans eppel Jerry Jones, which is not Look,
Speaker 2: you're an owner, you and the hostel. You're in the
Speaker 2: state space. There's no love loss between these two teams.
Speaker 2: There's no love. Now. Their biggest rival is Washington, right,
Speaker 2: Philly is normally philling the Giants because they're right there
Speaker 2: next to each other. Philly, New York, Philly, New York.
Speaker 2: You know, so they normally right there. Old jokes, but
Speaker 2: Philly hate it. Philly hates the Cowboys. I'm old enough
Speaker 2: to remember. I know you don't remember this. Where Buddy
Speaker 2: put a bounty. Buddy Ran was there, Buddy Ryan put
Speaker 2: a bounty out. He put a boundy on the kicker.
Speaker 3: That's what.
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I think they sacked Troy.
Speaker 2: Go back and look at that Eagles game. I think
Speaker 2: they sacked Troy like ten eleven times.
Speaker 5: Ten.
Speaker 3: How many times did they sacked Troy?
Speaker 5: What the hell was the whole line doing?
Speaker 2: They sacked them eleven times? Jesus, But look here they
Speaker 2: had a nasty defense. Boy, they had a defense. They
Speaker 2: had Reggie, they had Jay Boogie, they had a Clyde Simmons,
Speaker 2: they had self Joiners, they had Byron Evans, they had
Speaker 2: Muddy Waters.
Speaker 3: They had Ea Eric Allen wa dv Eric Allen. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: boy a. They had a squad. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Hell, I think they held us what ninety two? I
Speaker 2: think they about to have held us to the yards
Speaker 2: of total offense?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Total total?
Speaker 3: Go back and looks how in ninety two we played them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I know who they had. I know they had.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you just said fifty yards of total offense in
Speaker 5: the NFL.
Speaker 2: Go back and look at in ninety two the Eagles.
Speaker 2: We played the Eagles in Philly. See how many yards
Speaker 2: they held us?
Speaker 3: Too? Man, they beat it, they beat it, they beat
Speaker 3: it thirty seven nothing.
Speaker 1: Jesus, And this must have been right, This must have
Speaker 1: been right before. As a matter of fact, hold on.
Speaker 3: This was the year.
Speaker 2: This was the jay buget restless sol Jerome Brown had
Speaker 2: died in the off season, of that car accident.
Speaker 5: Hey, this was the Eagles TV before Barby Taylor.
Speaker 2: We had eighty two total yards. Jury were oh for
Speaker 2: level on third down? Oh man, Hey, I ain't jelled
Speaker 2: with Somebody told me I was there. Yeah, hold on,
Speaker 2: is this was this?
Speaker 5: This was before Bobby Taylor and Troy Vincent got there.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah wait before the hell yeah hey oh yeah, damn,
Speaker 3: I ain't know that.
Speaker 5: I ain't know.
Speaker 3: You gotta realize Troy got drafted by Miami. He did. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I shovel passes. I had taught two pasts. I caught
Speaker 3: two shovel Yeah, Troy, Troy got drafted by Miami.
Speaker 5: I ain't know that. Yeah, damn, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: But hey, okay, oh yo. What would the Cowboys do
Speaker 2: whether they keep McCarthy or would they move on?
Speaker 5: I think they're gonna move on. I think they're gonna
Speaker 5: move on. You know, Jerry Jerry Jerry wants Jerry wants
Speaker 5: to think a s actually wants to make a name. Uh.
Speaker 1: He wants to keep the Cowboys the star. Then he
Speaker 1: wants to keep it circulating in the media. That's something
Speaker 1: he will always do. He's going to come out and
Speaker 1: say something soon. I'm not sure when it will happen,
Speaker 1: but he's going to be in front of shitting in
Speaker 1: front of a camera. I love the way the player
Speaker 1: stuck up for Mike McCarthy, Michael Parsons, some other players
Speaker 1: came out and said some things necessary to vouch for
Speaker 1: him and wanting to be the coach of next year.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, it comes down
Speaker 1: to Jerry's decision, and we know how Jerry feels. We
Speaker 1: probably know how some of the fans actually feel, not
Speaker 1: just about Jerry, but Mike McCarthy and wanting and them
Speaker 1: also wanted to make a change and get that team
Speaker 1: hope and the fans in the city of Dallas hope
Speaker 1: that maybe you know, next year might be the year.
Speaker 1: And listen, I'm pulling for him. I'm pulling for him.
Speaker 1: And I just don't like the fact that the person
Speaker 1: who creates the most noise, increased the most unwanted attention
Speaker 1: is the one who sits all the way at the
Speaker 1: top and having done he don't catch no balls, he
Speaker 1: don't take no hits, he don't do nothing. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's unfair to the players, it's unfair to
Speaker 1: the coaching staff, that added extra pressure that he puts
Speaker 1: on the team itself instead of just.
Speaker 5: Allowing them to do it, allowing them to do what
Speaker 5: they need to do, and.
Speaker 1: Preparing for a game and going out there and playing
Speaker 1: without the owner front center, as if we know you
Speaker 1: run the show.
Speaker 5: It's just too much. It's too much of a circus. Yeah,
Speaker 5: too much of a circus. And I mean that in
Speaker 5: the respect for it, Oh Joe, checking this out.
Speaker 2: The Bills defeated the Jets forty to fourteen. At one point,
Speaker 2: the score was forty to eight. Aaron Rodgers had a
Speaker 2: one point two QBR today versus the Bills. It was
Speaker 2: one of the worst twenty worst games by quarterback in
Speaker 2: NFL history. It was the worst game since Davis Mills
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. The Bills forced three turnovers, not
Speaker 2: the safety sacked Aaron Rodgers four times. Rogers had a
Speaker 2: forgettable game with season lows and passive yards one hundred
Speaker 2: and twelve, quarterback rating forty four. Aaron Rodgers benched himself
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter, essentially saying, you know what, oh Jo,
Speaker 2: this is what he said. I mean, it was thirty
Speaker 2: three to nothing. We're sitting there and I said at
Speaker 2: some point, you'd probably go to Tyrod.
Speaker 3: Huh.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Probably should have went to Tyrod about five games ago. Huh. Hey, oh,
Speaker 3: you know what a bills?
Speaker 2: I need y'all to give me all vaccination status cause
Speaker 2: that probably that probably why y'all won.
Speaker 5: Hey, so I can ask you a question on a
Speaker 5: check ye, I would love for you to ask me
Speaker 5: a question a check Listen, listen to me.
Speaker 1: Is this any different than Anthony Richardson said in coming
Speaker 1: out the game and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 5: Saying, you know what, I'm going to mention myself. I
Speaker 5: guess what, maybe based on my play when there's nothing
Speaker 5: wrong with him, there any different.
Speaker 3: I'm just curious.
Speaker 1: I'm here chat. I'm curious in your thoughts. I just
Speaker 1: want to I don't get it. I've never heard of
Speaker 1: a player actually mentioned himself unless he's saying he'd been himself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they unless they actually did it.
Speaker 3: No, that's not what he said.
Speaker 2: He said he went to the code basically went to
Speaker 2: the coach and said, we're sitting there, and I said, at.
Speaker 3: Some point, probably go to Tyrod here. Huh, what.
Speaker 1: Can't you can't say that you can't give up with
Speaker 1: your team in the middle of the game. No matter
Speaker 1: how mad you're gleaning, you still got to keep fighting
Speaker 1: to the end.
Speaker 3: You have to. So I've just tried to figure out.
Speaker 3: I mean, but in fact, I hope they probably did.
Speaker 2: Look, I mean, he done begged enough for a job,
Speaker 2: or if they draft a quarterback, I would mentor him.
Speaker 2: You know, that's not a conversation for me. I mean,
Speaker 2: he's begging to stay there. He know he's played bad. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and y'all giving people giving him every excuse. And when
Speaker 2: you say that he's played bad, you're talking about his
Speaker 2: vaccination status. That ain't got nothing to do with him
Speaker 2: playing bad at all. That ain't got nothing to do
Speaker 2: And that was four years ago. Ain't even nobody talking
Speaker 2: about COVID. He keeps bringing that up to try to
Speaker 2: what he's trying to do. He'saying, he's playing.
Speaker 3: The shell game with Yojo right right, right right, I'm
Speaker 3: playing bad. Let's talk about COVID yo. So he's still
Speaker 3: playing bad. I see with Ryan hands what you're playing
Speaker 3: bad with So so.
Speaker 5: He's trying to say, he's trying to distract us.
Speaker 3: He trying to distract That's why he keeps bringing it up.
Speaker 2: Don't nobody don't nobody bring up that he misled people
Speaker 2: and see, you know, immunization and he talking about you know,
Speaker 2: if he's vaccinated, he immunized.
Speaker 3: Nobody brings that up.
Speaker 2: We're talking about your play in twenty twenty four has
Speaker 2: been abysmo. So no, there's no way around he's played bad.
Speaker 2: He's still a four time league MVP, he's still a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champ. He still has thrown four hundred and
Speaker 2: ninety nine touchdowns. He's done all of that. And I
Speaker 2: say that, but he's played bad in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: There's no Whey around the chat. There's nowhere around the
Speaker 2: Jet fans. Even the most die hard Stauncher supporters of
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers can honestly can't look themselves in the America
Speaker 2: says he's played good because he has it.
Speaker 1: So with that being said, being that his twenty four
Speaker 1: twenty fourth season was abysmal, it's been bad, it's been
Speaker 1: really bad. Does he get an opportunity to redeem himself
Speaker 1: next year?
Speaker 5: That's the crust.
Speaker 2: I don't believe he redeemed himself in New York. Now
Speaker 2: that's just that's just me. I think, I mean Woody Johnson.
Speaker 2: If the reports are to be believed right that Wooded
Speaker 2: Johnson tried to bench him earlier in the season. I
Speaker 2: don't know why you would bench him and then have
Speaker 2: him back. Now that's just my thought. Now, look, owners
Speaker 2: have done things that made me scratch my head before,
Speaker 2: Yeah they have. But all I know is this, They
Speaker 2: fired the coach, the demoted the offensive coordinator, and he's
Speaker 2: still playing bad.
Speaker 5: So so so we we we realized slid one at
Speaker 5: issue No. And like I said, you know, players get
Speaker 5: coaches fired.
Speaker 2: But oh Jo, The thing is just what you have
Speaker 2: to understand. When you bring a guy like that in,
Speaker 2: you basically turn that You turn the organization over to it.
Speaker 5: And you get the keystone.
Speaker 2: Tampa did that for Tampa, did that for Brady. Broncos
Speaker 2: did that for Manning. The problem that you have to
Speaker 2: be careful with is that people sometimes to have power,
Speaker 2: they'll abuse that privilege.
Speaker 3: It'll tell you a lot.
Speaker 2: Give a person if you want to know what a
Speaker 2: person and people say, will give him money, give a
Speaker 2: person power.
Speaker 3: Yeah mm hmm.
Speaker 5: That'll tell you exactly what person is.
Speaker 3: That's and.
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers adds four hundred and not in acturer touchdowns
Speaker 2: sludenly fire under the luck and certain things is going
Speaker 2: to be interesting to see.
Speaker 3: Does he play, does he start next week? Does he
Speaker 3: play next week?
Speaker 2: Uh? If being reported that Garrett Wilson will reportedly request
Speaker 2: the trade if Rogers comes back as quarterbacks O Joe,
Speaker 2: I remember having a conversation with you this off season.
Speaker 2: Now they went training camp and he kept talking to Rogers.
Speaker 2: I said, oh, cho, that's not a good sign. You said, oh,
Speaker 2: you just the preseason. I said, oh, Choe, I'm telling you,
Speaker 2: he keep talking. I don't blame me, y'all, keep telling me.
Speaker 2: All I know is that when I had a lesser quarterback,
Speaker 2: I was offensive Rookie of the Year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they were putting up the numbers. Now, I'm not
Speaker 5: saying he's not been being utilized the right way. But
Speaker 5: I know what he can do. I know what he
Speaker 5: can do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's nothing. There's nothing wrong with him. There's nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with him. But the quarterback play has been abysmal.
Speaker 1: And we've seen Aaron Rodgers before being able to facilitate
Speaker 1: the ball and be able to addition and the liber
Speaker 1: to multiple players at a time, because he did it
Speaker 1: for a very long time in Green Bay.
Speaker 3: Maybe he just not.
Speaker 1: The same quarterback we're used to seeing, because there's no
Speaker 1: reason Garrett Wilson to be upset. There's no reason Garret Wilson,
Speaker 1: with his talent, with his skill level and what he
Speaker 1: can contribute to that offense, there's no reason for this.
Speaker 5: And his time, he's young, he's not in his prime yet.
Speaker 5: It's being wasted in New York.
Speaker 3: It is and that's and that's the look guys, y'all
Speaker 3: O chose have a little a different way.
Speaker 2: I just call it like I said, I don't I
Speaker 2: don't have anything personal against anybody. I don't think I'm
Speaker 2: better than anybody. I don't care what somebody else is doing.
Speaker 2: I just look at it and said, Okay, the guy's
Speaker 2: playing good. The guy's not playing good, and let me
Speaker 2: try to explain to you why he's not playing good
Speaker 2: or why he is playing good. And so that's why
Speaker 2: they just don't look at touchdown interception sack blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to look at how it can I'm trying
Speaker 2: to look at how it came to be. That's why
Speaker 2: we were able to look at the players say oh
Speaker 2: that interception that y'all blame it on Russ no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no. That wasn't Russ, that was Pickings. He quit
Speaker 2: on the route. And so once he quit on the route,
Speaker 2: the safety said, why the hell am I gonna get wide?
Speaker 2: But there's not a threat wire. The danger is screaming
Speaker 2: up the same here. Let me just cheat this here. Okay,
Speaker 2: thank you, thank you Russ. I appreciate that anybody like Russ,
Speaker 2: how could you throw that? Had to say, had Piggins
Speaker 2: not quit on that route and he stayed wide, that
Speaker 2: means Reed would have had to stay wide, and that
Speaker 2: means fried Muth would have got over the top of
Speaker 2: it because he picked it. You have to understand everything
Speaker 2: ties together, Oh Joe. You we're talking about from a
Speaker 2: standpoint of running routes. We know how things tie together.
Speaker 2: Front side. We gotta maybe the front side. We got
Speaker 2: a dagger, hoping that safety get nosy that we got
Speaker 2: the post on the backslide.
Speaker 3: That's what they did with the Dino route. The Broncos
Speaker 3: ran the Dino the mall.
Speaker 2: Marvin Mills Junior is already outside, so I'm gonna get
Speaker 2: him a little further now.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna head back to the post. Saint. They're paying
Speaker 3: attention on the backside.
Speaker 2: Now I'm I'm pass So in offense, things tie together.
Speaker 2: It's almost like you know rice and gravy, right, you know,
Speaker 2: you know cornbread and this of potatoes and that they
Speaker 2: go together, and so you trying to say, okay, this
Speaker 2: went together. But guys at some point in time, even
Speaker 2: even our favorite players, they're not what they once were and.
Speaker 3: They can't do it. And that's the one thing that
Speaker 3: you learn is that you can't do it consistently.
Speaker 2: You could have a game for two but Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 2: to throw three hundred two fifty Aaron Rodgers turned hold
Speaker 2: on how many interceptions that the man got. He probably
Speaker 2: got three seasons in twenty years in which he's had
Speaker 2: double digit interceptions. Rogers was throwing forty five touchdowns with
Speaker 2: six picks, forty touchdowns with four picks routinely. That's why
Speaker 2: I'm not sure he has one hundred interceptions total? Does
Speaker 2: he have one hundred interceptions total? That's when I that's
Speaker 2: when I told you the other night. I saw the
Speaker 2: graphic come up. I saw the graphic come up, and
Speaker 2: I'm looking. I thought, I'm like, man, what in the
Speaker 2: hell if he does he might not have, but one
Speaker 2: hundred and two. He has the greatest touchdown to interception
Speaker 2: ratio in NFL history. Oh yeah, so we have four
Speaker 2: hundred and ninety nine touchdowns one hundred and thirteen picks,
Speaker 2: which is crazy.
Speaker 5: That's crazy, oh Joe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's why he's afforded opportunities on That's why
Speaker 1: he's giving grace to the quarterback because of that. But
Speaker 1: people understand it, and you know, they gonna use that
Speaker 1: as a crutch over and over and over. He's gonna
Speaker 1: get another opportunity to play if I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's going to be in New York.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it's going to be in New York.
Speaker 5: Knowing Aaron Rodgerson the way he is and the way
Speaker 5: he operates, he gonna want to come back.
Speaker 3: But here's the thing, O Joe, he gonna want to
Speaker 3: come back, O Joe. As you get older, you don't
Speaker 3: get to make the decisions. Yeah, think about it.
Speaker 2: If Tom Brady didn't get to write his ending, Yeah,
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning didn't get to write his ending, Montana didn't
Speaker 2: get to write his ending. Emmitt Smith didn't get to
Speaker 2: write his ending. There are not very many guys because
Speaker 2: once you get older, you don't get the right the
Speaker 2: ending that you want.
Speaker 1: But we got a small problem. We got a small
Speaker 1: to just have a very small problem, was that Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers might not be able to write the ending right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but they can't close the page on that chapter because
Speaker 1: they don't have nobody to open the new book.
Speaker 3: Yetty dude, Oh, why wouldn't you go back to Sam Donald?
Speaker 5: I like where you're going.
Speaker 3: You see, you know what I did, o cho. It's
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes even in the relationship, the individual, the female
Speaker 2: or the male can be paralyzed because they're so afraid
Speaker 2: that somebody might not out there.
Speaker 3: What am I gonna do? Yeah? I know he don't
Speaker 3: pay for I know he beat on me. I know
Speaker 3: she cheat on me.
Speaker 2: I know this, But I am I gonna be able
Speaker 2: to find somebody else. You get paralyzed by that because
Speaker 2: you overthink said situation. Yes, rh I refuse to be
Speaker 2: a no situation like that. Come on, man, I refuse
Speaker 2: to I am not going to let you hold me
Speaker 2: hostage because I don't see it right now something on
Speaker 2: the other side, Come on, fast off because the Jets
Speaker 2: cannot see, well, who's the quarterback right now? That we
Speaker 2: can definitively say, are you saying that there's somebody out
Speaker 2: there that canna be worse?
Speaker 3: I mean, are you telling me?
Speaker 2: You mean to tell me you can't find somebody out
Speaker 2: there that can go five and eleven? I mean five
Speaker 2: and twelve, that can go six and ten, that can
Speaker 2: go seven?
Speaker 5: What? Nine and eight?
Speaker 3: You got to be kidding me, they're enough? No quarter
Speaker 3: of a chat? Tell me from wrong do y'all believe
Speaker 3: that there's another There's not another quarterback out there that
Speaker 3: can do what Rogers did this year. Now, if you
Speaker 3: tell me you're gonna give me twenty twenty twenty twenty
Speaker 3: one Rogers, I said, hey, bring his ass back?
Speaker 5: Yeah, most definitely without in a heartbeat.
Speaker 3: Without that guy, Oh Joe, that guy you would be
Speaker 3: in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: But he's not that guy anymore. It's like the old
Speaker 2: the old actors, actresses. Where is my close up? Mister demil?
Speaker 2: There is no close up?
Speaker 3: Right, oh Joe? Check this out.
Speaker 2: Saut Gardener posted a warning on IG the other players
Speaker 2: still away from the Jets on T. Higgins post put
Speaker 2: me and coach Sauce. Gardner says, pay that man, Sauce,
Speaker 2: tell him to come to the Jets, saut Gardener, I
Speaker 2: will not be telling him that, Sauce Gardner on if
Speaker 2: today's loss was embarrassing, embarrassing, I don't even know if
Speaker 2: that's the word you're telling me.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 2: It's forty oh if you ask me, If you ask me,
Speaker 2: that means the end of the season. Obviously we're not
Speaker 2: going to the playoffs. Some people might have checked out.
Speaker 5: Hey, I like it.
Speaker 1: It's okay to be honest. It's okay to boys and frustration.
Speaker 1: It's okay to say how you feel without being PC.
Speaker 1: You know, it's shows people that you care.
Speaker 5: It shows me, It shows them that you care. It's okay,
Speaker 5: and I think more players need to do it. I
Speaker 5: think more players need to do it.
Speaker 2: He ain't think nobody of the bus. He ain't called
Speaker 2: no name. Maybe some people about to check. I've been
Speaker 2: in situations before, O Joe, we're not going to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody trying. Hey, guys going through the motion because
Speaker 2: they don't want to get hurt. I ain't trying to
Speaker 2: have no surgery in the off season. Hey, I want
Speaker 2: to train. I ain't trying to rehab. I need these
Speaker 2: first couple of months. I want to go to Jamaica.
Speaker 2: I want to go to Cancun or wherever I'm going.
Speaker 2: I ain't really trying to do no rehab. I ain't
Speaker 2: trying to be here in Denver. I ain't trying to
Speaker 2: be here Now now they gonna fly with me all.
Speaker 2: He says that, Hey, because I think think it was
Speaker 2: a close game the first time they played. I think
Speaker 2: they lost twenty three to twenty. Yeah, so you mean
Speaker 2: to tell me we come back six weeks later and
Speaker 2: this team got us down thirty plus to nothing.
Speaker 3: Boort it to nothing. Oh hell no.
Speaker 5: Damn the volume