1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: I'm Greg Gloudy, English and this is a War on 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: drugs quick fix? Man. How you doing, Clayton, I'm good Man, 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: I'm good. Okay, So Clayton, we you know, we have 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: some amazing guests and sometimes you just can't fit everything 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: into the episode that we're doing. But yeah, so this 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,160 Speaker 1: is almost like the bonus feature the director's cut um aspect, 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 1: and I don't want to give much to it because 8 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: this is from the Eric sterling Um interview that we did, 9 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 1: and he tells this amazing story about a trip, you know, 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,279 Speaker 1: down to South American and Colombia and how politicians kind 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,400 Speaker 1: of use the war on drugs for political gain and 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: kind of what some of these almost photo ops kind 13 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: of look like and where a lot of this comes from. 14 00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:47,960 Speaker 1: Because not only can the War on drugs be profitable financially, 15 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: but from a political gain as well. I think that's 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: pretty obvious that you can go back and say I'm 17 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: being tough and war on drugs definitely is a good 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: campaign for whoever. I mean it it's for a shriff 19 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 1: or whatever. You're gonna roll out that table with the 20 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: two German shepherds and they're gonna put on everything that 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: they found and just you know, and act like they're 22 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: doing something. When I went with the Select Committee on 23 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,839 Speaker 1: Narcotics on a on a fact finding mission to South 24 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: America and we're meeting with the top government officials to 25 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: encourage them to do more to fight quote the War 26 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: on drugs, and to find out what more left they're doing. 27 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: And in Peru, the Chairman and I have flown in 28 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: in this proving aircraft into the jungle of the Amazon 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 1: Watershed where we're seeing cocoa being grown and coca being 30 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: chopped down, but with taxpayer money. And we have seen 31 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: all this cope. We're seeing it being chopped down. We 32 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: knew how it was supposed to be eradicated, but they 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: were chopping down with machetes these old, crummy coca bushes 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: that were a pair their viability, and then spraying the 35 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: herbicide on the ground around the route. They were killing 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: the weeds that were going to interfere with the cultivation 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: of the coca. They were in effect pruning coca bushes 38 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: and improving their viability using US tax dollars in front 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: of members of Congress, thinking we wouldn't know what's going on. 40 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: The congressman who represented Ocean City, New Jersey, turns to 41 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: me and he says, now I understand the meaning of 42 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: the term pissing into the wind. We here we you 43 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: realize when you're flying in a helicopter in Colombia to 44 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: sort of see the Colombian military chopping down marijuana plants 45 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: with machetes and asked plantation after plantation in the helicopter 46 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: US No, no way, this is this is this whole 47 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: strategy is not going to succeed. There's no economic sense 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: to it. You know, there's it's it's a boon doggle. 49 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: It's a campaign. You know, how do I get elected? 50 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: How do I sound tough? You know, we would send 51 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: these message. You know, you'd hear members of Congress give 52 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: these speeches on or sending a message to the dope 53 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 1: dealing scum. We're not gonna take it. The message they're 54 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: really trying to send is, hey, voters, I'm protecting your children. 55 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: I'm doing something that you want to have done. It's 56 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: not gonna do It's not gonna make a damn bit 57 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 1: of difference, But I hope you get the message. Yeah, 58 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking like I'm doing something. I'm sounding like I'm 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: doing something. I'm Clayton English and I'm Greg Glad and 60 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: this has been a war on drugs. Quick Fix, thanks 61 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: again for listen