WEBVTT - “Figures of Speech” 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:15.280 Welcome to the stage, Kenny Burns. What's happening, y'all? Feel good? 0:00:15.360 --> 0:00:18.440 Say yeah, I'm gonna take this hot ask coat off 0:00:18.480 --> 0:00:19.960 in two seconds. I just want you all to see 0:00:19.960 --> 0:00:29.040 the whole outfit. Uh. Capricorns. Is it still Capricorn season? Okay, 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.320 you're lucky. I want to bring out three individuals that 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:36.120 I think represent Atlanta great um and very well on 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:39.520 the fashion side, just the lifestyle side in general. First, 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:42.920 I would like to bring the beautiful Sky to the 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:48.120 stage from Sets by Sky. She's my spirit animal and 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:50.400 we did a little Coca Cola thing on accident. We 0:00:50.400 --> 0:00:53.959 didn't even play it and she got on dickies. Give 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:57.000 it up a sky, y'all. Uh. Next, I'd like to 0:00:57.000 --> 0:00:59.880 bring to the stage my brother from another mother. He 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:06.880 is the creative director at Wish Renaldo Nehemiah, that Co 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:10.680 five boy at Co five and last but not at 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.399 least Uh. He's a legend in Atlanta as far as 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:16.280 I'm concerned. The owner of motor for for a quasi 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:22.679 bill qataria Um. I don't know if you all know 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.600 everything about Virgil. If you know everything about Virgil, put 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:29.560 your hands high. You don't let me help you. Virgil A. 0:01:29.680 --> 0:01:33.360 Blow is an American fashion designer, entrepreneur, artists, and DJ 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.479 who has been the artistic director of Louis Vutan's men's 0:01:37.520 --> 0:01:42.199 wear collection since March. A Blow is also the chief 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:46.120 executive officer of the Milan based label Off White, a 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:50.200 fashion house he founded in Can you show them the original? 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:53.480 That's an original? Peace, you're gonna stand up? Quasi turnaround? Okay? Great? Yeah, 0:01:53.520 --> 0:01:57.880 that's his original. Oh uh, ladies and gentlemen. He is 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:01.480 also a trained architect, I Blow who also worked in 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:06.080 the Chicago street fashion scene, with one of his first 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:10.200 offerings The Daily Making Dollars t Chicago's in the Building 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.600 fashion gigs. Oh are you in the building? I got 0:02:13.600 --> 0:02:16.360 this information? I got a cheat sheet. Uh. He also 0:02:16.400 --> 0:02:20.120 had his first collab with leaders Um, a famous street 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.600 where movement out of Chicago, designed the chain Tea with 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:28.000 his then company v A A L l C. Did 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:30.160 anyone know he had a company called v A A 0:02:30.440 --> 0:02:33.280 L l C. We're learning tonight. This is gonna be 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:36.560 a learning curve for all of us. Uh. And personally, 0:02:36.600 --> 0:02:39.360 what I'm most proud of is that he is the 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:43.960 first American of African descent to be named artistic director 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:47.640 at a French luxury fashion house. Give it up please. 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.560 Time magazine also named him one of the most influential 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:59.239 people in the world. So how many people remember the 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:03.000 first time they all Virgil or heard of Virgil? Not many. 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:07.040 I'm loving this. Um. There was an infamous photo taken 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:10.280 by a photographer by the name of Tommy Ton and 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:13.440 it was outside of the Calm de Garson show and 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:16.840 what is obviously wildly circulated on the net, and it 0:03:16.960 --> 0:03:19.920 featured can we get that picture up there? On the screen? 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:24.240 It featured Don c tesst Arnold, Chris Julian, Kanye West, 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:29.079 Farnsworth Bentley, and then it featured an unknown Virgil a blow. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:34.960 Did anyone know that you ain't know ship? No one 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:37.440 is scared of anyone in this room. For those who 0:03:37.480 --> 0:03:40.800 didn't know, now you know that started? Uh that's actually 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:44.480 those yeezis or the Louis Vuitton yeasys that everybody was 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.600 going crazy over when he did his Louis Vuitton offering, 0:03:48.720 --> 0:03:51.160 his first Loui Baton offering. So we're gonna start the 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:52.840 first question, and I want to open this up to 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:57.800 our amazing panel. Um, what do you think Virgil's contribution 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:02.920 has meant to Atlanta fast and culture. Um Virgil has 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.760 made an amazing impact as far as like fashion and 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:09.960 art and also has given the opportunity for a lot 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.960 of people to actually step outside of box to actually 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.919 make a difference in fashion and fashion world because you know, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:20.320 we're living in the days where people wearing more casual 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.200 leisure were as supposed to wearing a suit, so now 0:04:24.240 --> 0:04:29.440 everything's more so streetwear were although near Maya. The influence 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:30.919 of everything that he has done for me as a 0:04:30.960 --> 0:04:32.960 young black male, you know from the South, it just 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:37.240 is a young Black African American male period too strive 0:04:37.360 --> 0:04:40.960 to do what we was not supposed to be to do. 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:45.360 Um giving me the inspiration to being a young black 0:04:45.440 --> 0:04:50.200 creative director in a city that's powerful and being powered out, 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:53.400 you know by African Americans. It gives me the strength 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:55.479 every day to seeing the iconic things that he's doing 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.120 for me to say I want to do the same thing, 0:04:57.160 --> 0:05:00.000 to take Atlanta to the world is well and speakful 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.920 Atlanta to the world as well, and everything that I do, 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:06.640 you know, being a creator direct their wish. So by 0:05:06.720 --> 0:05:10.280 him being that stap on, that trophy that I can 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.760 look at every day and study. You know, it's my 0:05:12.800 --> 0:05:16.600 aspiration to you know, do that. Yeah, I think it 0:05:16.640 --> 0:05:19.440 allows us to be able to think outside the box. 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.480 We see someone who's doing something like that that looks 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:24.960 like us, and now it allows us to think that 0:05:25.000 --> 0:05:28.200 it's tangible for us. Men and women are like black 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:32.880 and brown. It's very important. Absolutely, I think. Um, I 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:36.880 think he blew up because he made bigger clothes, bigger. 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:42.159 I think there was a time when, no bullshit, I 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:46.360 think there was a time where where designer clothes were 0:05:46.360 --> 0:05:49.320 not made for black men. I think that there was 0:05:49.360 --> 0:05:51.960 a time, you know, even when I started Ryan Kenney, 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:55.360 the problem we were having and we were the second 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.600 black designers ever in sacks with the Avenue by the way, 0:05:57.640 --> 0:06:05.720 with Ryan Kenney, but go hello, what's Aaron? We need 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:10.080 shots a Yama. Um. But I think he kind of 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:11.920 he kind of hit the mark. I mean he he 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:15.600 was making things that could fit athletes, that could fit 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.479 you know, oversized people. And I think that you know 0:06:19.600 --> 0:06:23.000 when you saw I mean, black men have shoulders, we 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:25.440 have butts, we have guts, we you know abo And 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:28.680 I think he literally coined it and hit a home 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:30.719 run with it, because if you think of his first offering, 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:35.000 which was pyrex. You know it was a whole you know, 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:37.120 it was a whole thing, like you know they were. 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.320 He took the flannels from Ralph Lauren he printed on 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:43.479 the back of them. I think, Zoe, you told me 0:06:43.520 --> 0:06:46.000 there was a flash cell at Polo when that happened. 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.039 So where are you at flashal geek, Zoe? This is 0:06:49.040 --> 0:06:53.719 my cheek she Zoe, Stand up zo, stand up Zozo. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:58.760 He has geek out of Chicago. So the rumor has 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.240 it that he there was a flash sell Ralph right, 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:05.479 and he brought all the sizes and the painted pirates 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:10.160 on the back, right, okay, and they had huge sizes. Okay, cool. 0:07:10.200 --> 0:07:11.360 I just I don't want to I want to have 0:07:11.400 --> 0:07:14.440 all facts, and we're gonna get to the facts. I 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:17.320 want facts from coming in the audience with the microphone, 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:23.440 especially to the white people. Okay. Question number two, how 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:27.600 do each of you characterize Atlanta Street where? Now? I 0:07:27.600 --> 0:07:29.480 wanna I don't want to set you up with this 0:07:29.560 --> 0:07:34.640 question because you're from l A. Originally, Dickies is an 0:07:34.760 --> 0:07:38.560 l A Atlanta thing, too, right, we share that, right, um, 0:07:38.560 --> 0:07:42.040 But how do you characterize Atlanta Street where? Because Dickies 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:44.240 is totally Atlanta Street, where I just wore Dicky Suit 0:07:44.280 --> 0:07:47.200 the cassette two weeks ago. So honestly, I think Dicky's 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:50.920 is a as a it's a special special case because 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.240 it's universal. This is this is like the poor man's uniform. 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.640 That's what it started as. So it's not just an 0:07:57.760 --> 0:07:59.880 l A thing. It's not a Southern thing. It's a 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.560 US thing. Um, everyone worthies when they when they went 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.440 to work. So I don't think. I don't think everyone 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:08.880 had the tailor to fit before Atlanta. I mean this 0:08:08.960 --> 0:08:12.280 is an evolved fashion has the tailors. Yeah, I mean 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:19.520 this is okay. But everyone can can relate to this 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:23.360 in one way or another. Either someone's grandfather wore this 0:08:23.440 --> 0:08:29.080 to work or someone's panel speaker war to a panel. Um, 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:34.079 that's sky alright, alright, Um, it's it's relatable. But it's 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:36.679 also it's practical, and that's why I like it. That's 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:38.800 also like why I like Dickies in general or anything 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.280 like that's a gumpsuit because I can wear these to work. 0:08:41.320 --> 0:08:43.280 I can wear these in a set and then I 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.240 can take my shoes off, put heels on, and go 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.000 to dinner if I want to. Um. So it's kind 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:53.360 of universal and love your style. Ronaldo, creative director of Wish. 0:08:53.400 --> 0:08:55.680 I mean Atlanta, you know, it fluished me through my 0:08:55.679 --> 0:08:57.600 whole life. I mean growing up in Miami, Florida. I 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:02.440 mean my favorite group, you know, Joan Bloods. I mean 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:07.400 I tell everybody all the time, the Flyers. The Flyers 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:09.360 guy that I used to look out too in Miami 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:12.440 when I was growing up was Big gift Um. He 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.920 was the Flyers of them all. I mean he he 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.360 was charismatic. He just like yo, listen, I got the attitude. 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:21.200 I'm riding my box Chevy and I'm gonna, you know, 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.320 still be me. And you know, growing up at Miami, 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:26.480 that's what we wrote this Donks and box Chevys. I mean, 0:09:26.520 --> 0:09:28.439 I was like then in college, I go to walm 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:30.360 up by my Dickies. Even though there was a size 0:09:30.440 --> 0:09:32.840 I was like a size eight back then, I was 0:09:32.880 --> 0:09:35.480 wearing a size thirty four. You know what I'm saying. 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:40.640 So about that life right, it still is in a 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:45.319 more you know, curated way. But Atlanta always like, like 0:09:45.440 --> 0:09:48.400 you know, Andre three thousand said, the South has something 0:09:48.440 --> 0:09:50.840 to say, and every time you see somebody from Atlanta, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.599 it's an air about them all of my friends that 0:09:53.640 --> 0:09:55.880 are genuine from Atlanta that I meet, that I love 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:59.199 and respect. This is confidence of like yo, listen, I'm 0:09:59.200 --> 0:10:01.440 from Atlanta from one six. You take old national role, 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:05.559 you know, Metropolitan Stewart Avenue. This is what you're gonna get, Okay, 0:10:05.800 --> 0:10:13.640 addresses um these in these streets though. Look look you 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.160 know Ronaldo Style, some of your favorite rappers, um Quasi 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.160 Before you answer, I just want to I want to 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:23.640 give the people a little bit. Quasi started uh selling 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:29.600 me close at Ralph Lauren and he took that knowledge 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.320 of his customer base opened the store about the name 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.600 of motor for for which he has today. And the 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:39.000 genius about this man is that, you know, when all 0:10:39.080 --> 0:10:42.960 these fashion houses from Europe we're making all these things 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:47.000 that didn't fit high armpits, low waist jeans, he went 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:52.840 out into the world and found the same silhouettes and cuts, 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:54.719 but things that fit us. And I just want to 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.520 commend you for that because it's unheard of for an 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:03.640 independent owner to being business over fifteen years selling fashion. Well, 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:07.880 thank you, Kenny. Um. I want to also elaborate that 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:09.760 the fact that Atlanta, when I first moved here in 0:11:11.040 --> 0:11:13.760 right after the Olympics was incredibly a city where it's 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:18.680 growing fast. And I was living downtown Atlanta and loft 0:11:18.760 --> 0:11:21.240 and I noticed the style is more so the classic 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:24.560 Cortez Nikes. It was like the dope boy fresh look 0:11:24.880 --> 0:11:28.280 with baggy levies an oversized white T shirt. So we've 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.320 graduated from that to the point where we have Virgil 0:11:31.440 --> 0:11:35.000 that's now making an amazing collaboration with like Nike and 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:37.839 making of the cooler version of uh, what fashion is? 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:40.520 You know, so our style and motor fhul Force more 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:43.959 so international where we actually reach out to the global 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.560 market where if it's a Japanese style, if it's oversized, look, 0:11:47.840 --> 0:11:50.839 you can still have a cool effect where you're actually 0:11:50.840 --> 0:11:53.320 expressing yourself without thinking twice, you know, kind of like 0:11:53.360 --> 0:11:56.120 growing out of bed and just point out a cool outfit. Yeah, 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:57.880 and I want you to elaborate a little bit more 0:11:57.920 --> 0:12:00.720 because I think that you know, as I mean, being 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.800 in business over two decades, basically a happy new decade 0:12:04.840 --> 0:12:06.720 to everyone. By the way, you know, this is not 0:12:06.800 --> 0:12:10.400 a new year, this is a new decade child. Um. 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:14.560 But but seeing Atlanta go from you know, because when 0:12:14.559 --> 0:12:17.520 we moved here, you know, it was really you know, 0:12:17.600 --> 0:12:21.800 the Southern music was starting to ascend. You had the 0:12:21.840 --> 0:12:25.240 face records, you had social death, rowdy records, you had 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.760 all these things starting when you when you came, or 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:31.440 starting to actually peak when you came. But um, I 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.480 just want to talk about how you could talk through 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.280 the history and the evolution of the fashion here. Sure, 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:41.560 um spending time Atlanta's fashion. When I worked at Lenox 0:12:41.600 --> 0:12:44.160 Mall actual Ralph Laurence, my first retail job, everyone was 0:12:44.160 --> 0:12:46.960 at Lord and Taylor. So UM at the time, I 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.240 think for the most part, I was in college at 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:56.480 Clark and I couldn't sleep see you. So Clark was 0:12:56.600 --> 0:12:59.840 very fashionable, and coming from New York to Atlanta wasn't 0:13:00.040 --> 0:13:03.720 was an amazing Um just changed in my life just 0:13:03.720 --> 0:13:06.520 for the fact that I went to HBC School, but um, 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:08.400 the fact that I met some of the middles amazing 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:12.360 people there and to this day they all my friends. UM. 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:14.400 I remember just you know, being in New York or 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:18.720 wearing a lot of outdoor gear like Northface, and I've 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.240 just kind of seen fashion Atlanta just changed to the 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:25.120 point where we're more we're actually wearing more high fashion brands. 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:29.640 So it's incredible, I think for me with with Atlanta fashion. 0:13:29.720 --> 0:13:33.320 I think it's grown into the metropolis that it is. 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:36.040 I think because of all the beautiful people that moved 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:38.840 here to you to go to school, um, to pursue 0:13:39.000 --> 0:13:42.520 a loved one too, whatever you came last year in 0:13:42.600 --> 0:13:44.840 high school. I think Atlanta has built up of so 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.960 many different cities, and those cities have poured into Atlanta 0:13:48.360 --> 0:13:52.400 and now has you know, attached themselves to not only fashion, 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:55.079 but music and everything else that has to do with lifestyle. 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:57.920 But you know, I remember coming here and it was 0:13:58.000 --> 0:14:02.560 country like that. That's how people referred to Atlanta. They 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:05.760 referred to everything Atlanta country, their style, their music there, whatever. 0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.360 And I had a certain affinity because of the tempo 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.199 of the music. And I would go off the reservation 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.280 because when I first came to school, Atlanta didn't funk 0:14:15.320 --> 0:14:18.520 with the colleges. It was like, you go to college, 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.880 don't come over here. But because we were in the 0:14:21.880 --> 0:14:24.320 street a little bit, we were allowed to go play. 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.200 And I think when I first went to Cascade, when 0:14:27.200 --> 0:14:29.680 I would go out to Old National Highway to make 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:32.400 my runs like I would just I was immersed into 0:14:32.400 --> 0:14:35.280 the culture and and to be honest with you, you know, 0:14:35.560 --> 0:14:40.160 Atlanta unlike any other city in the world, that was 0:14:40.400 --> 0:14:44.320 its own thing. And then as the people started coming 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.880 in and making their families here and growing. Because I've 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:50.600 been here almost three decades and to see where it's 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:54.160 at now. It's a true metropolitan city. It's a true 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.960 thoughtful city, and it's offering. We're not only leading the music, 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:01.520 We're not only leading in tech on a lot of levels. 0:15:01.520 --> 0:15:03.360 And with Paul Is bringing to the city, we're not 0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:06.000 only you know, we I mean, I would like to 0:15:06.240 --> 0:15:09.720 really dissect on who spends what I would believe Atlanta 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.120 would be in the top ten in the world. So, 0:15:12.280 --> 0:15:14.800 you know, I just I like and I want to 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:17.800 challenge everyone here, like, you know, how many people are 0:15:17.840 --> 0:15:20.200 residents here, live here? And how many of you are 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:23.240 not from here? Like this is your home? Wherever you're 0:15:23.280 --> 0:15:26.360 from is cool? Everybody on on this stage was not 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:29.520 born in Atlanta? How many people aren't born in Atlanta? 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:35.320 I want to see that, Grady baby, what Georgia? Okay, well, 0:15:35.360 --> 0:15:39.120 so there's another hospital. Sounds graty. We just learned, we 0:15:39.280 --> 0:15:47.320 just learned important. Where's that at? Okay? Well, the fact 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:49.320 that it was another hospital makes me feel whold. I 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:51.640 just because all you hear is grady. But I just 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:53.520 want to say this is our home and keep repping 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:55.640 it the way we do. Um. I'm gonna get to 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:59.000 the next question. How do you think having this exhibition? 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:02.000 How many people have seen that exhibition upstairs? Okay, well 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.120 those who haven't, after this you'll be able to see it. 0:16:05.160 --> 0:16:08.560 But how do you think having this exhibition effects or 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:13.360 inspires the creative culture or trends here? Um? A whole lot, 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:17.440 because if you look at the history of this Virgil 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.880 Pick there is ever to be in Chicago first service 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:24.040 in his hometown, then anybody to Atlanta. He could have 0:16:24.160 --> 0:16:26.760 chose any city else in the country or the world 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:29.080 to bring a second, and for him to bring his 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.320 second that just shows the impact that we have that 0:16:32.920 --> 0:16:35.800 he the world is watching and people don't even realize it. 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:38.480 You think about all the dope brands out of Atlanta, 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:43.920 like Cease and Desist, Raunchy, All Friends, Welcome by the 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:51.360 Original Fani, you know, all of these brands. Yeah, you know, 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:53.560 you gotta think about these brands that actually live in 0:16:53.600 --> 0:16:56.520 Atlanta that is moving throughout the world, that is influencing 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.440 Because a lot of our rappers are wearing them. And 0:16:58.480 --> 0:17:02.360 if anybody don't think that these guys like Virgin Damn 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.639 are not paying attention to what these young designers are 0:17:05.680 --> 0:17:09.800 doing in Atlanta, you would be crazy. I I appreciate 0:17:09.840 --> 0:17:12.760 you saying that, I really do, because I think that 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:14.919 he might not get the credit for that, and that 0:17:15.040 --> 0:17:16.280 is a very I mean, I'm sure he could have 0:17:16.320 --> 0:17:18.639 went to New York, or he could have went anywhere, 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:20.040 and he brought it to Atlanta. Do you guys have 0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.479 any more energy with that? Sure? Sure? Sure? Um. One 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:25.080 thing I appreciate about what Virgil has done is to 0:17:25.080 --> 0:17:28.480 actually express himself with like um, the political aspect of 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.720 life through his art and also the fact that fashion 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.480 is at his best right now. Ever, where I would 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:37.760 be in a thousand years because working at Rop Floren 0:17:37.800 --> 0:17:40.480 for me was soon talk kind of thing on a 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.920 daily basis, but I started off at Polar Sport where 0:17:42.920 --> 0:17:46.840 it was more casual. Um. I was actually shopping this 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:49.760 past holiday at Louis Batton and I walked into the 0:17:49.800 --> 0:17:52.280 leaving store and I just noticed a scarf that was 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:56.120 an American flag made out of fur with a Ghanaian flag, 0:17:56.440 --> 0:17:57.840 and I was amazed by it because it was like 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.320 a piece of art. I was like, Wow, this kid 0:18:00.359 --> 0:18:03.320 is amazing where he's actually expressing his native roots. Me 0:18:03.400 --> 0:18:05.639 being West African native, I was touched by it because, 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:08.200 you know, as far as like the culture is concerned 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:11.000 in Atlanta right now, we're like the most powerful state 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:14.080 of emergency. Man, It's it's crazy. There's a lot of 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.160 good things happened in the city. We have the typ 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:20.080 fairy thing popping, we have music, we have fashion, and 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:22.680 you have people all walks of life. So hey, let's 0:18:22.720 --> 0:18:26.520 get it guys. Sure. So I was just gonna say, 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:28.880 I think it's interesting. I think we all should need 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:33.480 to consider the contents of the exhibit, like the pieces 0:18:33.520 --> 0:18:36.399 that he chose to display. I don't want to spoil 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:38.600 it for those have not seen, but there's a whole 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:44.359 bunch of rugs up there, y'all. It's um. It's quite vast, 0:18:44.720 --> 0:18:48.160 like he had covered a lot of bases um with 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:51.679 this exhibit. And the fact that to your point, he 0:18:51.840 --> 0:18:55.480 decided that he felt Atlanta could appreciate all of the 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:59.439 different aspects of the exhibit is really important. Considering the 0:18:59.480 --> 0:19:02.280 fact that what you said earlier, Atlanta used to be 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.399 a place that with a joke to people. Um so 0:19:06.480 --> 0:19:09.480 I think I think the city is finally is the 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:13.160 post and I think it's important and people are paying 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.520 attention to it. She ain't. La Poe used to try 0:19:16.520 --> 0:19:20.000 to hate on Atlanta all the time on the side 0:19:20.200 --> 0:19:26.520 side conversations. Um this, this next question is gonna resonate 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:29.640 heavy in here. And I'll be the first to say, 0:19:30.200 --> 0:19:33.680 I am one that really tries to find the value 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.800 in Virgil and not that you know. Like I said, 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.159 I'm most proud that he is the first American of 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:43.720 African descent ascent, I mean decent to lead a men's 0:19:43.760 --> 0:19:47.120 fashion house in you know, French fashion house. But I mean, 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:51.320 whatever it is, I said it earlier. We wanna take chapter. 0:19:53.280 --> 0:19:56.800 He is the first American of African descent to be 0:19:56.920 --> 0:20:04.320 named artistic director at a French luxury fashion house. Um, 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.639 but I you know, I had a bad experience. You know, 0:20:09.119 --> 0:20:11.919 I'm a host. I host all over the world, and 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:13.920 he ran in the booth when he was gonna DJ 0:20:14.000 --> 0:20:16.040 after Q tipping Oye one time, and he was just 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.840 so arrogant. So every since then, I've been trying to 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.800 hate on him, but I can't. I can't. I try. 0:20:22.840 --> 0:20:27.080 I'm like skining. I'm a scorpio. I tried, and but 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:30.160 I can't because I think his offering is too special. 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.119 But I want to read this and then after we 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:35.960 give you our opinions, I want to know your opinion 0:20:36.440 --> 0:20:40.240 because I'm gonna fry him a little bit. Virgil recently 0:20:40.400 --> 0:20:45.600 made these comments. Uh, on days Virgils say wow, I 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.879 would definitely say it's gonna die. He's referring to street 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:52.600 where like it's time will be up in my mind. 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:56.160 How many more T shirts can we own? How many 0:20:56.200 --> 0:21:00.639 more hoodies? How many sneakers? I think like we're gonna 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:04.000 hit this like really awesome state of expressed. This is 0:21:04.040 --> 0:21:08.640 his words, expressing your knowledge and personal style with vintage. 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.880 There are so many clothes that are cool that are 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:16.719 inventage shops, Like people don't already shop inventage shops, and 0:21:16.760 --> 0:21:19.720 it's just about wearing them. I think that fashion is 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:22.760 gonna go away from buying a box fresh something. It'll 0:21:22.800 --> 0:21:27.000 be like, hey, I'm gonna go into my archive. Scott, 0:21:27.080 --> 0:21:30.000 I know you're a vintage shopper. Now this is true, 0:21:30.160 --> 0:21:36.960 not in ten years. Talk to your people. Well, first 0:21:36.960 --> 0:21:38.800 of all, I have I kind of have like two 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:42.680 different opinions on I'm gonna pay play Devil's advocate on 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:47.280 my own opinion politically correct, I'll be the asshole. I 0:21:47.280 --> 0:21:48.600 I'm a little bit bit of an asshole in this 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:54.800 situation too. Okay. I was a little a little disrespected 0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:58.640 by this because, first of all, you have the most 0:21:58.680 --> 0:22:03.560 popular streetwear clothing brand and you are saying that it's 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:06.720 gonna die. So I'm just trying to figure out, are 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:08.680 you just trying to push the culture for a second 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:11.600 and then pull out, or like, where are we going 0:22:11.640 --> 0:22:15.320 with this? Where are we going? One side, it's just 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:20.960 one side. The other side, we're very excited to hear um. 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.280 The other side. I have been shopping in thrift store 0:22:24.320 --> 0:22:27.400 since I was in a stroller with my grandmother. UM. 0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:30.000 There's no piece, no outfit that I go out and 0:22:30.119 --> 0:22:33.880 that does not have a vintage something a part of it. 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:39.560 This UM. So I am personally excited that he feels 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:44.520 like there is um a new hope for the vintage world, 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:48.280 but it hasn't gone anywhere. There is an entire subculture 0:22:48.280 --> 0:22:51.639 of people that specifically go to thrift stores to find 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:55.840 personal pieces to accident outfits. So they'll go to Niemans 0:22:56.240 --> 0:22:58.359 and find an outfit, and then they'll go to a 0:22:58.400 --> 0:23:00.840 thrift store and find a brooch as an accent piece. 0:23:01.520 --> 0:23:05.439 So it's not we're still doing that. Um. But I 0:23:05.480 --> 0:23:10.679 guess I'm okay with him shutting some lights, Renaldo, for 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:14.280 him to be boldly, to feel like you're bigger than 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:22.399 what made you, it's kind of weird. Um. So that 0:23:22.840 --> 0:23:30.640 and for me personally, streetwear would never die because I 0:23:30.680 --> 0:23:32.520 was raised in the streets, and so streets is a 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:36.800 guy that is fresh cut. Your cameras on my my 0:23:36.880 --> 0:23:38.520