1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Hey the French, come listen. Well, Eli and Diana got 2 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: some stories to tell. There's no matchmaking a romantic tips. 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 1: It's just about ridiculous relationships, a love. It might be 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: any type of person at all, and abstract cons that 5 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:17,639 Speaker 1: are a concrete wall. But if there's a story. We're 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: the second Glance Ridiculous Role, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, everybody, 7 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. So glad to have you 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: as always. Yes, very exciting for part two today of 9 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: our crossover with Ridiculous History hosts Ben Bowling and Noel Brown. Guys, 10 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: welcome back, Thank you for being here. It is we remain. 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: We went through a lot. In that lot, we learned 12 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 1: a lot. I think, Oh yeah, there was a lot 13 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 1: of school girlish tittering going on. I was stimulated in 14 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: both body and mind. That's what we go in and 15 00:00:57,040 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: I was horrified. So all the ridiculous romance boxes are checked. 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: Three tiers of any successful relationship, right, stimulating mind and uh, 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, horror centers. Yes, so we um, thank you 18 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: guys so much for having us back on our second date. Um, 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,040 Speaker 1: this was a wild ride. I'm not going to look 20 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 1: at goats the same way for a while. Never Never, 21 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: you really hung up on that goat island with the 22 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: with the organic French tickler. Huh yeah, God, it's painful. Um, 23 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 1: but we're going to move past all that today. Uh, 24 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna leave the goats behind. We're talking about sex dolls. 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: We're talking about chastity belts and all the mysteries surrounding 26 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: them and beneath them. So to start us off, let's 27 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: let's talk about sex dolls. Where where do they come from? 28 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: What's it all about? I guess making a little avatar 29 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 1: of your desires is probably pretty old school as long 30 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 1: as we've had imaginations. Right, people are like, I'll just 31 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: pile some clothes together and see if I can make it. 32 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: But according to black Book mag dot com, they have 33 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: an article called sex Dolls a timeline, which is very useful. Um, 34 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: there were sailors in the fifteenth century who would take 35 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: dolls that were, um, they were clothes stuffed with straw 36 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: or with rags basically, and they were very not that 37 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: humanoid looking. They're just kind of a vaguely human shape. 38 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,399 Speaker 1: It's hard to stuff clothes into a realistic dummy. Don't 39 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,519 Speaker 1: ask me how I know. Oh, I don't think we're 40 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: going to but this. Well, so is it like those 41 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: creepy body pillows especially? Yeah? Sure, well, and then imagine 42 00:02:50,320 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: some of them are straw, which is like so itchy, 43 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 1: and I don't know, it doesn't seem as as comfortable 44 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: as brags. But they called them dom de voyage of 45 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: the voyage, Yes, and they were just to occupy them 46 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: while they were, you know, in their long journeys at sea. 47 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: They would have We did actually a whole episode about 48 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: gay pirates um and they often would would would sometimes 49 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: use each other, but I guess they would also sometimes 50 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: take on these these stuffed rag Do do you think 51 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,920 Speaker 1: kind of prison rules apply it? See, like what happens 52 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 1: at It's like, I'm not actually gay, I'm just maroonedable. 53 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: So what I think is interesting isn't. In the last episode, 54 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: we talked about how people said women couldn't survive without 55 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: an injection of seamen at some point or they would 56 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: go insane. And yet here are these men going on 57 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: a voyage who can't be gone for three months without 58 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:59,480 Speaker 1: putting their dick in something st Yeah, are you guys 59 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: familiar with the concept of a FIEFI I don't know 60 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: if this is just something that like my friend made 61 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: up or if this is like it definitely represents an 62 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: actual thing that you guys will be familiar with. But 63 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: this is a term that my friend Frank, friend of 64 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 1: the show, Friend of the universe uses for an improvised 65 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: sexual device. Us. Let's say a toilet paper roll stuffed 66 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: with tissue filled with petroleum jelly. You know, it could 67 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: be a winter mill specific. I'm just just as as 68 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: an example as another one another confirmed or deny this. 69 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: They could just be you know, two couch cushions. Um 70 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 1: there you know, there any anything that you can use 71 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: as a stand in for um, you know, the genuine article. 72 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. I didn't know if anyone 73 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: else has heard that term before. Yeah. If you go 74 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: to uh, I guess we have. This is the website 75 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: we go to all one word make pockets pussy dot com, 76 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,279 Speaker 1: you'll see how to make a FEEFI f I f 77 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: I for everybody who also wants to ruin their search history. 78 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: Uh to make a FEEFI that sailed for us that 79 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: sale that is it's probably got its own dom the 80 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 1: voyage now. But but so like this has to have 81 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: come a long way right at this point, I know 82 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: that now is surely now. It's like if somebody is 83 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: making a a scarecrow thing to have sex with, it's 84 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: because that's what they want, right, aren't there better option? 85 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: There's so many options now, like all those real dolls 86 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: and stuff that people. Oh, you can't tell the difference 87 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 1: between these and real humans anymore. It's straight up jewe 88 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 1: law ai. It's I can get a jew law real doll. 89 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: Let me look, you yourself might be a sex doll 90 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: and not know it. This is the future we're moving towards. 91 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: How have we not seen a movie about a sentient 92 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: sex doll that gets broad they gets turned into it 93 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: comes from being a real doll to being a real woman, 94 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: like a Pinocchio situation. You know, A good questions see 95 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: that sort of like there's that movie Mannequin from the eighties, 96 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: sort of that thing a little bit, but I don't know, 97 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: I want to see that story updated. Yeah, A two 98 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: four will probably get on it at some point. They 99 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: make all those ai true true love that stuff and 100 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: all the modern horror the right exactly. Um, but if 101 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: you loved the modern sex doll, like real dolls and 102 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: other versions of that Unfortunately you have the Nazis to 103 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: think for those manum But in one the s S 104 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,840 Speaker 1: leader Heinrich Himmler, actually was very enemy of the show. 105 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: Enemy of the show. Apparently was very concerned with the 106 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: Nazi soldiers in like the front lines in Paris and stuff, 107 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,719 Speaker 1: going to visit too many prostitutes and getting STDs. And 108 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 1: he was basically like, STDs are killing more of our 109 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: soldiers than bullets are. So he's like, we need to 110 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: give them something instead of going to visit these real women. 111 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,600 Speaker 1: We need to give him something else. So he got 112 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:22,040 Speaker 1: a sculptor named Arthur Rink involved in a project called 113 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: the borg Hilled Field Hygiene Project, and it was considered 114 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: more secret than top secret, which considering their top secret things. 115 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: He's funny to me, there's the Holy Grail and then 116 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: a few not just below that, sex dolls. Sex. But 117 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: that's his contribution to history, Like Arthur Rink made the 118 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: sex doll deathbed. He's like, let my legacy live on, 119 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: stamp my name on the foot of every sex doll. 120 00:07:56,200 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: So Black Book mag writes that quote. The sculptor on 121 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: the project, Arthur Rink created three types of dolls. He 122 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: had three different types. According to Rink, the s s 123 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 1: wanted the breasts round and full, of course, and ss 124 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: dr Olan Henderson insisted on a rose hip form that 125 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: would grip well. Okay, so he's like a consultant on this. 126 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: He like walked in, so he was like, listen, here's 127 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: all my wish list. You know, do what you do best, Arthur, 128 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 1: You're the sculptor, but I have some notes. Let's let's 129 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: talk ergonomics. I want a good gripping surface. Nothing's worse 130 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 1: than losing your grip. Right, these guys are already a war. 131 00:08:39,520 --> 00:08:43,680 Speaker 1: Let's make it. Make it simple. Um. And then for 132 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: the face, they were going back and forth on a 133 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: face for this doll, and they agreed that, you know, 134 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: this is a sex doll, so she needs to look 135 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: a little naughty and like sort of slutty. They wanted 136 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: a slutty face whatever that means, and a come hither 137 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: luck let's call it. Yeah. It was like a you know, 138 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: not a not a not ah an innocent looking gal. 139 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: I guess. But they actually asked an actress at the 140 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,719 Speaker 1: time whose name was cath von Nage, to be the 141 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: face of this doll, and obviously she said no thing. Too. 142 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: I was like, I would hate to be like, yes, 143 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: put my face on all these sex dolls, You're going 144 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: to be unbelievable. So they said, okay, well, we need 145 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: to create an artificial face of lust that would be 146 00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: more appealing. Technician Franz Schuckert agreed, saying, quote, the doll 147 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: has only one purpose, and she should never become a 148 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 1: substitute for the honorable mother at home. When the soldier 149 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: makes love to board Killed, she has nothing to do 150 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: with love. Yeah, board killed makes love. Sure, Look board 151 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: kill deserves some respect. He says. This has nothing to 152 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: do with love. Therefore, the face of Anthropomorphic sex Machine 153 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: should be exactly how Wigner described the common wanton's face, 154 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: also starting an industrial band called Anthropomorphic sex Machine, and 155 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: you would do well, I think, and I would like 156 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: to see the cover art as possible to be one 157 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: of those steam powered dildos. Yeah, I think they opened right, 158 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 1: you can do like a variety pack of it was 159 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: steam Power Dildo was one, and then this Anthropomorphic sex Machine. 160 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: Maybe that's the name of the album. The band is 161 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: steam Power Dildo, the album is Anthromorphi sex Machine. I 162 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: think we can discover some stuff here, right, I think 163 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm still, you know, obviously astounded by episode one, and 164 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: now we're diving right into Nazi real dolls, which is 165 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: then they have names Bardield. It's not a very sexy 166 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: name I might have, but I mean, you know, maybe 167 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: he's let me lost some You don't like Frauleine pork. 168 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: You think of the borg. I don't know, you know, 169 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: like I want to want to be a similar did 170 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: when I lay with this. When you make love now 171 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,079 Speaker 1: you're speaking my language, assimilate me. One does not make 172 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: love to a sex machine. So there, it's weird because 173 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,839 Speaker 1: I would imagine that the face, whatever the face ends 174 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: up being, it's going to be frozen and whatever static 175 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: expression they give it right, so it's like surprised or 176 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: it's like whole saucy, like I'm into this, I guess, 177 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: abject horror. Yeah, maybe that's the problem is that some 178 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: people that's what the face they would like to see 179 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: the most. But yeah, they actually Time Magazine said that 180 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 1: because they couldn't decide, you know, they didn't want it 181 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: to look like someone's wife or mother. I guess they 182 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: couldn't really nail down a slutty face for this doll 183 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: and and they tried. Okay, they took surveys um so 184 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: they I left the dolls face pretty blank, and they 185 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 1: thought that the soldiers would more were more likely to 186 00:12:06,880 --> 00:12:08,720 Speaker 1: use them if they could sort of impart their own 187 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: fantasy onto the doll. And it didn't look like anything 188 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: too specific. But of course they're Aryan. They're very much 189 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: about Aaryan value, you know, uh, aesthetics or whatever. So 190 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: of course they gave the creation still had blue eyes 191 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: and blonde hair. So other than that, I guess you 192 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: could give her full lips or thin lips, or a 193 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: big nose or a small nose. How are your imagination 194 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: runs wild? You can customize these um just in your head, 195 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 1: testing your imagin in your mind. And so it says 196 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: after extensive testing, which I have to ask, I would 197 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,080 Speaker 1: love to pull into speculation station and find out what 198 00:12:53,160 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 1: the testing entailed. Sensual works both in the dark and 199 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 1: in the light. Well, let's let's let's double check that 200 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: that's science. I mean, like you know, there's well, there's 201 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: obviously to be the boring answers. They probably have to 202 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: look at material science and stress on these so called comforts. 203 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: That checks out his science, but also also the thing 204 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: that gets me. And this is just a hygiene thing. Um, 205 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: are they one per soldier? What's the distribution? A single 206 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: use thing? Or is it washed? If I was if 207 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: I was designing it, I would make an ejectable cartridge 208 00:13:42,240 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: bottom so you could take it out and put a 209 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 1: new one in dishwasher safe. Where were you when the 210 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: Nazis were trying to put together these I've been asked 211 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: that question many times, think Nolan, I We're gonna ask 212 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 1: that earlier, but you get to it. Yeah. So yeah, 213 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: So they did a bunch of testing on I'm surely 214 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: material stresses and also I guess how effective they were 215 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: arousing you Maybe that's my guess, my gross guests. And 216 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: so they are like, these are ready to go. And 217 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Himmler ordered fifty dolls for his own troops, but by 218 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: two they pulled the plug on this project because the 219 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: soldiers were way too embarrassed to carry these dolls around 220 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: and they were really worried that if they got captured 221 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: by the enemy that like American in British and French 222 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: soldiers would make fun of them, Which is so funny 223 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: that you're like, I'm a pow and my number one 224 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 1: concern is they're going to make fun of me. I'm 225 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 1: a proud Nazi soldier. I don't want to be teased. Wow. Right, 226 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: also especially get that, I get that, given the propaganda 227 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: war going on at that time, it would be a 228 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: real gift to the Allies to be able to say, 229 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: these guys are running into battle on the fighting for 230 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: the forces of evil with also, by the way, their 231 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: sex dolls right right by the way, these depraved uns 232 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: are fucking these random sex dolls. Yeah, that's probably true too. 233 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: They were like, it don't make us look really weird 234 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: and weak and bad. Um, we don't want we don't 235 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: want to look bad. Let's and master by furiously we'll 236 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 1: make it work, I promise soldiers. Way. Yeah, I have 237 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: always kind of been a little perplexed at like the 238 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 1: need for us sex doll like kind of teach their own. 239 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: But it's just so specific. It's like we've figured out, 240 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, analogs without having to you know, go all 241 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: out and get this weird, uncanny valley. I just don't 242 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 1: quite understand the appeal, especially nowadays, when they're like, you know, 243 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: thousands and thousands of dollars. There's that movie Lars and 244 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 1: the Real girl. Have you guys seen that with Yeah, 245 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: sex sex sexy, mean boy, what's his name, Ryan Goslip? Yeah, yeah, 246 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: he genuinely, you know, forms an attachment, like an effect 247 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: to this, uh this thing, and that it's it's it's 248 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 1: a very sweet film, actually, but I think it probably 249 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: for some people there is a lack of touch, lack 250 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: of one on one, you know, skin on skin contact, 251 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: and maybe these things fill a role for which I 252 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 1: can totally understand. But in general, you know, for like 253 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: the Army, it seems like they're easier, you know, ways 254 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: to get this done than having to puzzle over what 255 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: the face is going to look like and all that stuff. 256 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: For the record, it's all about it if it's preventing 257 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: sexual violence. But do you guys, do you guys remember 258 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: the awesome show thirty Rock where James Craig appears as 259 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: a spoiler alert a guy who is pretending to have 260 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: a celebrity relationship because he's secretly in love with a 261 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: body pillow. It's like some of the best dialogue they have. 262 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: But while it seems like on balance it could be 263 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: a it is it not for me idea, but it 264 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 1: could be a good idea. Um if it's preventing violence. 265 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: The thing that gets me is just a really cheap point. 266 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:22,120 Speaker 1: Like I live in a in a smaller, smaller abode. 267 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,600 Speaker 1: I like multifunctional appliances, you know what I mean. I 268 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: don't like to get one thing that does one thing. 269 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: So like if it makes yeah, sure you could do 270 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: stuff that to brush, not sex, but yeah, but I'm 271 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: thinking like if it made coffee, or if it had 272 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: like storage or something, that would be a different conversation. 273 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 1: But I guess they didn't get to that point in testing, 274 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: did they. I guess not. I would like mine to 275 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: not not. You know, I don't want to sex doll. 276 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: That's also like makes dinner and think you know all 277 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 1: these traditional things. I want to sex doll. The a 278 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:03,680 Speaker 1: six figure income, um, you know, it goes off to 279 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: work every day, I clean up around the house, good 280 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: credit Yeah, a nice car, a few credit cards. I'll 281 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: stay home, I'll clean, I'll cook at least time. Stories 282 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: like or something just sort of waggles this weird jar randomly. 283 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: You know. Now we're talking nol. What did you do 284 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: with your Teddy rouxban doll? That's my question. I leave 285 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: that the imagination was listening publish. No, I never actually 286 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:37,720 Speaker 1: had a Teddy Roxban doll. It's probably why I am 287 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 1: the way I am. Um, I was deprived. I believe 288 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 1: we had a thrift store one that didn't the cassette 289 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: didn't work. Oh yeah, it was all imagination. I believe 290 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: it was my dad years back, uh on your cover 291 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: of Night snuck in like a very very funked up 292 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: cassette tape that was like some sort of heavy metal 293 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: and didn't tell or my mom until she like set 294 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: it up and all of a sudden, you know, it 295 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: wasn't this song, but it was like tosome hosome with 296 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: those empty eyes and just sort of man, I think, 297 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 1: is what I'm saying. Yeah, well, we're in confession corner? 298 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: Is that a Is that a corner you guys have? 299 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: Is there? We don't have confession, but maybe we should. 300 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,159 Speaker 1: I didn't lose my virginity for a intensive purposes to 301 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: one of those plush I kea snakes. You know, um 302 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: back in the in the in the eighties, they were 303 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: a lot more rudimentary and they were a little more 304 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: like they weren't as quite as fluffy as they are now. 305 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: But I had one on my ikea bunk bed um 306 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: and I just start it was just there something, you know, 307 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:52,199 Speaker 1: and there's all the sudden what's happened? I'm learning so 308 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 1: much about my body? Oh wow, I do not remember mine. 309 00:19:56,800 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: M Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, just snaket my dreams. 310 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: You know, I do remember those little um, those creepy 311 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 1: little water snakes. You know that we're just like a 312 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: rubbery sleeve with inside them that would be a perfect fife. Yes, yeah, 313 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:21,719 Speaker 1: it may have been the original design, and they just 314 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: thought we have to we have to spin our marketing 315 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 1: because we're creeping people out, you know, like the way 316 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: that people sell massage tools. Yeah, they made little water 317 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: snakes and said, you know what, sell us to kids? 318 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: Put in the Discovery Channel store. Yeah, we need the children. So, uh, 319 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: sex dolls the Nazis. We can thank the Nazis, and 320 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 1: I guess you can also think, I know, let's not 321 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: thank them. We can also thank I guess the American 322 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: and British forces who destroyed the factories where they made 323 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:01,320 Speaker 1: these dolls during their bomb raids of Residen So we 324 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: don't have any I guess we don't have an existing 325 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: like legit s to the front line. Doll, but there 326 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 1: was a similar I don't think it was an actual 327 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 1: sex doll, but it was based on the design doll 328 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: that was sold in toy stores. And this woman, Ruth Handler, 329 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 1: saw one and thought it was a beautiful, like blonde, 330 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: lovely woman and decided to make a doll out of 331 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:32,159 Speaker 1: it in America. And so that is the inspiration for 332 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,720 Speaker 1: the very first Barbie doll. So actually Barbie doll, Barbie 333 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: dolls were inspired by Nazi sex dolls. Wow, speaking of 334 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: things that were for adults. But then we're then marketed 335 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: to oh my gosh. So yeah, that is why Barbie 336 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: is blonde with big boobs. She was originally meant to 337 00:21:53,040 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: comfort comfort soldiers fighting for Arian values, sort of a 338 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: euphemism or like a kind of polite euphemism for a 339 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,600 Speaker 1: a sex worker was a comfort woman, Yeah yeah, in 340 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: the Pacific theater. Yeah, I guess they were comforted. I 341 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: don't know if the women were very kind, I would 342 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: think are comforted by it, but I guess they provided. 343 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: So I'm comfort Wow, I could. I'm hung up on 344 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: Fifi only because to me, Fifi a just from a 345 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: childhood cartoons. Fifi is like a blue poodle. Poodle. Yeah right, well, 346 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: now you know, guys, not anymore. Man, never look at 347 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,200 Speaker 1: poodles the same way again. And then that fifi would 348 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: be kind of that French spelling the f I f 349 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:46,640 Speaker 1: I would be right. Do you know it does Fifie 350 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: stand like? Is it the first part of something? As 351 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: it is? Fully immersive flagrant, fully immersive flagrant? No way, 352 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: it's fully improvised. Yeah, somebody helped me out with an 353 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: I would make that second half a different af Ford improvised. 354 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. You got to text our friend Frank 355 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: after this. Yes, I'm so glad we clear that up. 356 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Well, I'm just glad to know that 357 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,159 Speaker 1: it's not just a made up thing. I mean, it 358 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: is all over the internet. It clearly as kind of 359 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: a term. It would be weird if it would be 360 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,160 Speaker 1: weird if it was something or pal frank just made 361 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: up and tried to like normalize and slipped into conversation. 362 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 1: You know, man, he does do that. Sometimes he does 363 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: it with such authority that you believe it. I believe 364 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: I believe Frankie's like this is like a big word 365 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 1: that people say. I'd be like, oh, okay, I guess 366 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: I've got to learn it real quick. Frank says, he 367 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 1: is going to appreciate that shock. This is a great 368 00:23:56,080 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: spot for a break. We will be right back, and 369 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: we're back. But so, okay, I I didn't know that. 370 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 1: But I also didn't know a really weird thing that 371 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 1: you guys found about ancient Rome, Like the story of 372 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 1: love never did run easy or true for a lot 373 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: of people. And you know, this is a situation that 374 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:27,880 Speaker 1: happens in ancient relationships as well as current ones. Sometimes 375 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:34,239 Speaker 1: people straight, sometimes they go go off the rails, and 376 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,880 Speaker 1: for one reason, you're another find a different lover outside 377 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: of a committed relationship. Tail as old as time, as 378 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: old as time, and yeah, apparently, in ancient Athens and 379 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: ancient Rome, both men and women who cheated on their 380 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 1: spouses could legally be killed if they were caught like 381 00:24:55,520 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: doing it in the act. Caught red handed, then go 382 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,000 Speaker 1: ahead and kill or whatever hand, wherever your hand is. 383 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 1: But there was also another quote non lethal humiliating punishment 384 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 1: reserved for male cheaters, where the husband who had been 385 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 1: cuckolded could legally sodomize the adulterer with an audience if 386 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: they want so. Sometimes that meant that they would be 387 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 1: he would himself penetrate the other gentleman. Um. But this 388 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: ancient room and ancient Greece. I think that's what happened. 389 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: Remember in the last episode I talked about the scene 390 00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: in Caligula where Doll he does that to another man. 391 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: I believe it's out of punishment for him having done 392 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: something along these lines, because it's very public and like shaming. 393 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: Kind of an eye for an eye, blink for a blink, right, well, 394 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,240 Speaker 1: and we did talk a little bit point for a boink. 395 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: We did talk a little bit in the first one 396 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: about how it was okay to have sex with men 397 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 1: in ancient room, but only if you're the top. So 398 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: it was very humiliated. I have anything put into your butt, 399 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: I guess, although you could put whatever you wanted into 400 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: a but no problem um. And apparently yeah, sometimes they 401 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 1: would do it themselves, I guess, but more often than not, 402 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: the punishment took a symbolic form where they would insert 403 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:31,160 Speaker 1: a radish into your butt hole. And the historian Vicky 404 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: Leon says, quote, I call it an ancient sting operation, 405 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 1: since Greek radishes grew to a healthy size and had 406 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: a good bite to them, So I guess it really 407 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 1: stung in more ways than one. Yeah, you gotta wonder 408 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: if someone ever ever knew the risk and said, like, 409 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 1: I'll take the Radish for it, you know what I mean, Like, yeah, 410 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: this is worth it. And quick question if it was 411 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: so um, I guess shaming or just like taboo to 412 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: be on the receiving end of this thing. Does that 413 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,040 Speaker 1: mean that there were like special boys that were designed 414 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 1: for this purpose or bread for this purpose. Essentially, you're 415 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: gonna be my new Radish boy, get over here. Um. 416 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: But Vicky Leon also said that they, I guess probably 417 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 1: to avoid this punishment. There were some men who, you know, 418 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 1: they were like, I'm so randy, I just always ready 419 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: to go. I need some anti aphrods acts to sort 420 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: of help me. I don't know herb my appetite, yeah, 421 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 1: my enthusiasm. And so men would eat lettuce, which was 422 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: a salad leaf thought to be a powerful anti potency 423 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: drug at the time. Oh yeah, let us always turns 424 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,639 Speaker 1: me off. Do you eat it and you're just like 425 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: well like in our our very first episode of this show, 426 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: we talked about Celery and how sexy Celery was supposed 427 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: to be as aphrodisia. Really yeah, back with them in France. Um, 428 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: what's her name, Madame de Pompadour, uh, and all them 429 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,639 Speaker 1: they thought salary was was quite the aphrodisiac. Again, I 430 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:18,040 Speaker 1: don't know why, but whatever works for you, let us 431 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 1: is the inverse. I guess. Yeah, when leafy one watery 432 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 1: leafy green to another, I guess, doesn't salary like doesn't it? 433 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: It calorically expend more energy to eat than it provides. Anyway, 434 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: you know, I have I have a theory about aphrodisiacs 435 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: based on our last conversation. I think it's all like 436 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: independent marketing from people who are dealing with their own situations, 437 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,720 Speaker 1: you know, like it was was me, baby, it was 438 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: the oysters, you know how I get. Or or maybe 439 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:55,719 Speaker 1: someone's like, you know, I do think you're very attractive, 440 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: very much in love with you. But I just had 441 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 1: a salard. I just had a sad Maybe maybe it's 442 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: not you. It's not you. Is this when tossing the 443 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: salad comes from? Do you think I always wondered about that? Yeah, 444 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what. Another day. Perhaps me and my 445 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 1: silly etymology questions always added to the list. They're always filthy, 446 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: They're always filthy. Those are the fun etymologies to track down. 447 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: To be fair, speaking of filthy, another anti potency drug 448 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: was cream made of mouse droppings that they would spread, 449 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: I guess onto their genitals, which I'm like, just never 450 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: put ship on your dick. No, I just feel like 451 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 1: that's never always a bad idea. And also honestly, all 452 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: you have to say is cream made for mouse droppings, 453 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: and I'm good you don't need to rub it anywhere. 454 00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: You've said it. The images in my head I'm not 455 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: gonna have sex for a month, Well that's that's also 456 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 1: like I think that's a hard antiprodsack or that's a 457 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: very uh that like a self fulfilling prophecy, right, because 458 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: then it doesn't matter what kind of activity you want 459 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 1: to get up to. Anybody who is like, what's a 460 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: little mouse mouse poop between you know, between friends, they're 461 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: not going to be the kind of person you want 462 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 1: to sleep with. I'm just I hope that's not a 463 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: blanket statement. I hope nobody feels judged. But if you're trying, 464 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: if you're trying to like have a romantic partner and 465 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 1: you keep striking out, it might be the mouse dropping. 466 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, just yeah, Ben is trying to say, 467 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: try something new and just it's the scientific method. See 468 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: if you get the same results. Okay, so much like 469 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: the breadsticks in the episode one, I'm wondering about the radishes. 470 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: Speaking of salads, is you know, oh this salad is delicious. 471 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:57,040 Speaker 1: It's really turning me off. What's in there? Fresh radishes? Boy, 472 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: fresh out straight from the garden, fresh out of some 473 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: guardens from so not toss the salad radishes as a 474 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: form of punishment, slash abuse anti aphrodez acts. I think 475 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: that brings brings us to one of the one of 476 00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: the things that I was wondering about as well, which 477 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: is chastity belts. Right, that's that's an anti Aphrodez act 478 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: for sure. Right, even if you want to, you can't do. 479 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: Everybody loves chastity belts, right, I mean I always think 480 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: of robin hood, men in tights of course, any aspect, 481 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: and the ever last as hilarious. Um big iron underwear 482 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: with a padlock on it. Right, we all remember these, 483 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:45,920 Speaker 1: this impenetrable guard against scoundrels and ne'er do wells, stopping 484 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: sex and its tracks. The first evidence of chastity belts 485 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: goes all the way back to the eleven hundreds. Um, now, 486 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: ben at all. We we do a segment on the 487 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: show sometimes when we we have our main subject that 488 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: we're talking about, but maybe we're gonna sneak off with 489 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: some announced for just a quick second. Uh, we're gonna 490 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: take a little quick fling with history. Lock him up 491 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 1: and throw away the key. So the Crusades. We've all 492 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: heard of the Crusades, right, That's where we're going to 493 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: with this one, about a three century period in Europe 494 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: where Christians went out marching across the lands to bring 495 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: the good word of peace and love about Christ by 496 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: um checking my notes here, Uh, lots of stabbing basically 497 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,719 Speaker 1: swords and spears. Crusades, very Jesus like, Yeah, obviously more 498 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: complicated than that. We're not going to get the whole 499 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: history the Crusades here, but the thing that separated the 500 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: Crusades from other Christian religious wars was that the prize 501 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,000 Speaker 1: for participating in one was free absolution, Like you were 502 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: absolved of your sins if you went and fought in 503 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: the Crusades. So there's all these dudes like, what this 504 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: is my chance I've been waiting around for to someone 505 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 1: absolved me of all my sins a piece of ship 506 00:32:54,680 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: up till now, some some guy, probably like Gregor the Smith, 507 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: is like, I've got to believe I have sinned his 508 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 1: rules for getting into heaven, but dema broke every single 509 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:13,800 Speaker 1: one of them. And uh so somebody says to him, hey, 510 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: you know what, come on down, Gregor, sign up for 511 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: the Crusades. You'll be free to go get in to heaven. 512 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: All you gotta do is kill a bunch of people 513 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: for us, and everything's all set. But but this guy, 514 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: Gregor the Smith, he's worried while my wife is back home. 515 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: And of course, as we've all learned, wandering uterus women 516 00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: can't go but a few months without sex. So if 517 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: he's off for years in the Crusades, how's he going 518 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: to stop this from happening. So he goes off to 519 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: the blacksmith and or maybe he's the blacksmith. I think 520 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: we called him Gregor the Smith, all right, And he 521 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: starts forging and he makes this metal underwear and he 522 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 1: puts a big old padlock on it, straps it around 523 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: his wife and says, good luck getting railed now. And 524 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 1: he made a bunch of them passed him out to 525 00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: all the other villagers. Yes, I have the key, and 526 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: uh it was like the hottest item of the day. 527 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: Everyone had one, right, Wow, So ladies walking around with 528 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: iron underwear just all through the all through the crusades 529 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: so that they wouldn't be cheating on their husbands. The 530 00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 1: thing is, none of that happened. This was all a 531 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:23,239 Speaker 1: story that was made up in the Renaissance. So there 532 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: was a Rancor article by Genevieve Carlton where I got 533 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 1: some info on this. She said quote. One of the 534 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 1: favorite pastimes of folks in the Renaissance was laughing about 535 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: the ignorance of the medieval period. Right. They wanted to 536 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: feel superior. They're like, we're so educated, we have a art, 537 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: but our ancestors, well, they were so dumb and mindless, 538 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: and they came up with dumb stuff like this chastity belt, 539 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: and they invented these stories to make their predecessors sound 540 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:52,680 Speaker 1: stupid basically, So it was just like this dick ish, 541 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: belittling move through time because they wanted to say that 542 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 1: these barbaric medieval people were, uh, you know, just insecure 543 00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: and incapable of pleasing their wives, and that their wives 544 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,400 Speaker 1: just constantly cheat on them. So they came up with 545 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: this idea for the chastity belt. That's so funny. You 546 00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,879 Speaker 1: think they'd be like, let's dunk on him by being like, hey, 547 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:19,280 Speaker 1: you killed a lot of people. I'll say the idea 548 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: goes back earlier than that, because in the Roman times, 549 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: uh there's the Roman women would wear a knotted belt 550 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: that they would wear right up into their wedding day 551 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 1: and then the husband would ceremoniously un not the belt. 552 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: And so later on that belt kind of endured and 553 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: they even started sort of guilding it in metal. So 554 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: they think maybe they found these metal knotted belts that 555 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: survived history and said that's sort where they developed the 556 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: concept for the chat that he belt and the Renaissance. 557 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: So that that checks out. That sounds like the historic 558 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: game of telephone, you know, copy right with prejudice against 559 00:35:54,840 --> 00:36:01,319 Speaker 1: the past and what have you. But also, didn't this ultimately, 560 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how far ahead this is, but didn't 561 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: this ultimately like become a thing that people wanted to 562 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: do or some version of it, Like it's isn't it 563 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 1: like a fetish? At some point? To some degree in 564 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: the modern era, we've gotten more into that where this 565 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: sort of like forced chastity, uh you know, keeping someone 566 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: under lock and key. From from my research, it's seemed 567 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: that that's more skewed towards penis having individuals that there's 568 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: a cage lock and for your dick, lock up your dick. 569 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: So I guess so that you can't get an erection 570 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: or be stimulated at all, and your partner walks away 571 00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: with the key and says not until I say so. Um, well, 572 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: kind of a power dynamic. Yeah, absolutely, when you like 573 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:53,200 Speaker 1: hurt yourself with natural uh cycles of two essence, you 574 00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:57,799 Speaker 1: can't break a dick. Absolutely. It has been one of 575 00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: my biggest questions about these, and I've certainly never tried one. 576 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody in the under our listeners 577 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,600 Speaker 1: can write in and let us know what that's like. 578 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: If we get an answering machine on that, I will 579 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 1: be thrilled. Yes, what happens? Can you bust out of 580 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: these cages? Can you hulk out? If they're not strong enough? 581 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,080 Speaker 1: It does look like they have a hole to pie 582 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: for for function, And I'll say some of the old 583 00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,279 Speaker 1: designs of chastity belts from the Renaissance. There's this guy 584 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: Conrad Kaiser, who wrote a book in fourteen o five 585 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: called The Bellafortis, which is this military technology illustrated classic. 586 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: He just drew all these crazy industrial military machines, and 587 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,440 Speaker 1: he said, any other country that sees this book is 588 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: going to get scared and run away. But he also 589 00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: included the first known drawing of a chastity belt, and 590 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: it's got some gaps in the front and back so 591 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: that you know, I guess you can do your business still, um, 592 00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:56,399 Speaker 1: but not enough to actually get penetrated. So the thing 593 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: is his book was also full of jokes, so they're 594 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: pretty sure that he was making this as yet another 595 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:06,200 Speaker 1: joke in the Renaissance about what medieval people were doing. 596 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: He's got fart jokes in there, like the Onion of 597 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: its time. Yeah, mad magazine or something, Okay magazine, Yeah 598 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: that's funny, Okay. And there's there's Renaissance artwork again, all 599 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,319 Speaker 1: featuring chastity belts. It's always the same thing. It's some 600 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: man locking up his wife. She's always topless, she's always 601 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: tits out, you know, because she's insatiable. Like, yeah, we 602 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: lock up your vagina, but your tits are free to row. 603 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: They like these paintings always have like a guy sneaking 604 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,759 Speaker 1: around in the background because they're trying to show the 605 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 1: futility of them. Usually the guy in the background has 606 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:43,600 Speaker 1: is sneakily holding a key up in the shadows, like 607 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,840 Speaker 1: I've already get he made a copy. He made a copy, 608 00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: foolish husband, he never knew and made it the key 609 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: of So it's just, you know, just again this perpetual 610 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 1: joke out of the Renaissance, and it it just endured 611 00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 1: through the years to the point where we believed it 612 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: to be history for a long time. In fact, the 613 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,520 Speaker 1: British Museum in the in the nineteen nineties was taking 614 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,880 Speaker 1: down exhibits of chastity belts that they had just assumed 615 00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 1: to be historically accurate, and when they dated the metal, 616 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: they discovered that these things were from like the late 617 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:22,720 Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds. But then they said had belonged to Catherine 618 00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 1: de Medici, the Queen of France. Uh, you know, back 619 00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,480 Speaker 1: in the sixteenth century. They thought this was her chastity belt, 620 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: and then they dated it. Oh, never mind, this is 621 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: from the nineteenth century. It was probably just a joke. 622 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,880 Speaker 1: So it's like it's like the Iron Maiden, which the 623 00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: torture device that turns out to have been mostly fictitious 624 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,359 Speaker 1: or doesn't make exactly. There was tons of like uh, 625 00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,280 Speaker 1: torture museums and exotic you know, uh oddities being sold 626 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: back then, and people literally just bought up some metal 627 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: built chastity belts and said, come see this barbaric invention 628 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: that our medieval people came up with. Okay, totally false. 629 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:08,040 Speaker 1: In fact, I will say that in the eighteenth century 630 00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: Mr Voltaire wrote a poem kind of mocking the whole 631 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:17,719 Speaker 1: idea of chastity belts. We got another poem very excited. 632 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,400 Speaker 1: His whole point in this poem was that it was 633 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: foolish to force fidelity by locking a woman up, and 634 00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: that the whole poem is pretty long. But what pulled 635 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,799 Speaker 1: out a couple of selections here and I say, we 636 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: go on down a poetry corner and hear a selection 637 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: from Voltaire's poem The Padlock. Each coupled soul who during 638 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,839 Speaker 1: life did all he could to plague his wife then 639 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: thus declared a Florentine most mighty monarch ido pine for death. 640 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: For once a wife is dead, she can't defile the 641 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:52,880 Speaker 1: marriage bed, but astir an immortal wife can never be 642 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,720 Speaker 1: deprived of life a padlock. Therefore I'd invent which should 643 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:03,719 Speaker 1: such accidents prevent. She must be virtuous, of course, when 644 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,160 Speaker 1: under the restraint of force, not to be come at 645 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: by her elf. You're sure to have her to yourself, 646 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,720 Speaker 1: which I had thought before I died. Such a convenience 647 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,560 Speaker 1: to provide this sage advice allowed applause from all the 648 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:25,719 Speaker 1: damned assembly draws I'm gonna do in my bin woism, 649 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: and even Pluto's self some pity felt when spouses virtue. 650 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: He made fast and said, you will now perforce to 651 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:45,120 Speaker 1: chaste this lock, which Hell caught frame alone. Soon to 652 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: the human race was known in Venice Rome, and all 653 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:56,400 Speaker 1: about it. No gentleman or sits without it. Tis always 654 00:41:56,560 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: though a method. Sure all female oh too secure their husbands, 655 00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: though some sneerers mock keep virtue safe and underlock. But 656 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 1: all his jealous care is in vain. Love always knows 657 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: his ends to gain that God will sure a spouse 658 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 1: or cause he still protects who keeps his laws. For 659 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: you have given me your heart and can't refuse me 660 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: any parts. Soccer vibes get out get creepy times. I 661 00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:38,840 Speaker 1: do appreciate that He's like, it's clearly an accident. We 662 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,040 Speaker 1: want to prevent these accidents where you trip and your 663 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: dick falls into my wife. So who left that banana? 664 00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:52,839 Speaker 1: Who's cleaning around? But against satire? Yes, exactly, Yes, well, 665 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: Taire totally mocking the whole notion um has seemed to be. 666 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: All anyone was ever really doing was kind of teasing 667 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,440 Speaker 1: about it. I'm imagining like a thousand years from now, 668 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 1: someone unearthing something from Spencer's gifts. I guess they really 669 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: used this, like the do you guys remember the pen thing? 670 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,640 Speaker 1: There was a big on your face in or your 671 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 1: hands and a shape. Someone's gonna find that and be like, 672 00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,160 Speaker 1: you know what I think people were doing. I think 673 00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: they were banging this thing, just like, let's write a 674 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 1: poem about it. I need to sell some books. Let's 675 00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 1: write a poem about it. The man in the twenty 676 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,839 Speaker 1: one century loved to take a box of three thousand nails. 677 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: Let just go to some gym rose circus side show 678 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:48,040 Speaker 1: kind of ship. This is a great spot for a break. 679 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, all right, welcome back to the show. 680 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 1: But okay, but Eli, we know that there are physical 681 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: like artifacts like somewhere along the line, despite the story 682 00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:09,359 Speaker 1: being untrue, several people thought satire. No, they were like, 683 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to make one though, right, Yeah. And typically 684 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: again these were made mostly four show um, whether it 685 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: being sold off in a museum or sent on one 686 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,719 Speaker 1: of these oddity tours. The idea was that they were 687 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: always made as fakes from history. In fact, historian curator 688 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: Leslie Smith said quote, I have traveled abroad and looked 689 00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 1: at art collections and as yet haven't seen a chastity 690 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: belt that can be proved to be in medieval origin. So, 691 00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: as far as anyone can tell, all these manufactured chastity 692 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:49,560 Speaker 1: belts were made as basically a historical prank. Don't buy 693 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:58,399 Speaker 1: those vintage chastis belts on Amazon. Not worth it. Uh yeah. 694 00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: British Museum, the Cleaning Museum France both have had to 695 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: take down exhibits of chastis belts that they had previously 696 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 1: said were historical objects and then found out Nope, these 697 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 1: were totally bogus. That's embarrassing and I love that that, 698 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,319 Speaker 1: Like you mentioned Ben that that that today we've turned 699 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: it all around and we've made them for for pleasure devices. 700 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,680 Speaker 1: Almost the opposite of their original supposed intention. That's true. 701 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,879 Speaker 1: That is funny. It was originally meant to keep you 702 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,759 Speaker 1: from having sex, and now it's like, this is part 703 00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: of the sex. It's super hot and trick. Now your 704 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: sex is ten hours long. So I do wanna. I 705 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,280 Speaker 1: do want to give some shout outs to our our 706 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: off fair friends who reacted a bit strangely when they 707 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: heard and no. I don't know if you had this 708 00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: conversation too, but I acted a bit strangely when uh 709 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: we were going to hang out and I said, oh, yeah, no, 710 00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:59,720 Speaker 1: I gotta We're doing a two part thing on sex toys, 711 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:05,719 Speaker 1: and and they this is multiple people. They were like, 712 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: you mean like you an OL or getting together to 713 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: talk about sex toys or it was like no, we're 714 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,319 Speaker 1: we're hanging out with some other people too. I just 715 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 1: made it worse. But are married friends. I'm married friends. 716 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:22,839 Speaker 1: Were all going to do sex toys together us into 717 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,959 Speaker 1: their relationships. Very progressive. I love it. I did see 718 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: someone on Twitter be like, I we said it some 719 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: about a two parter, and they were like, isn't that 720 00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: called a double double headed? Shout out to fister, that's 721 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,160 Speaker 1: the thing, unrelated, totally related. I went in researching some 722 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: of the stuff, I found a place that I think 723 00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:48,920 Speaker 1: we should all figure out a way to take a 724 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:52,360 Speaker 1: field trip to. In San Francisco, there is a museum 725 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:57,720 Speaker 1: uh for sex toys and it is called Good Vibrations 726 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: Antique Vibrator me same specifically. And then of course in 727 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,399 Speaker 1: the New York the Museum of Sex is really cool. 728 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,319 Speaker 1: I've actually been there and they have like all kinds 729 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,960 Speaker 1: of vintage porn and sex toys and all these guys. 730 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really just fascinating and it's a very 731 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:16,359 Speaker 1: very naughty and body uh. And they have a gift 732 00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:17,880 Speaker 1: shop at the end where you know, if you can 733 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,120 Speaker 1: imagine what they said there, But I don't have a 734 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 1: room full of boobs. Yeah. I don't know if it 735 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,319 Speaker 1: was a permanent name, but it was. It was there 736 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,680 Speaker 1: when I was there. It was a bouncy house made 737 00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:34,640 Speaker 1: everybody said, I think finally there's also I think there's 738 00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:38,920 Speaker 1: the Vagina Museum, I believe is in England, probably in London, 739 00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,320 Speaker 1: but I follow their Twitter account and it's really awesome, 740 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:46,480 Speaker 1: isn't it The Fanny Museum in London? There it is, 741 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:55,560 Speaker 1: but no, I didn't know that. That's why Fanny pack 742 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:59,680 Speaker 1: is hilarious to all our British friends. Okay, that would 743 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,280 Speaker 1: be that also is already its own fanti pack another 744 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: like kind of naughty or I think that fantasy This 745 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,080 Speaker 1: is this sort of slangy but the word minge. Oh yeah, yeah, 746 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 1: it's just so visceral sounding. And yeah, there's while we're 747 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,919 Speaker 1: on tour. While you take the Ridiculous Universe on a 748 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: museum tour, we should also stop by Iceland to see 749 00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: the Penis Museum. Oh sure, yeah, I love how open 750 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,799 Speaker 1: we all are. Everybody's like, oh yeah, yeah, I don't 751 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:30,000 Speaker 1: listen down. I'm down for that. Hey, I'll see a 752 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:35,879 Speaker 1: museum of anything. Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, the weirdo museums are 753 00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 1: really more fun, although the more niche the better because 754 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:43,200 Speaker 1: it took some real weirdos to curate that stuff. You know, 755 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: like the Museum of Death. I think it's one of 756 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,960 Speaker 1: my favorites of all. There's one in Hollywood, and there's 757 00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,440 Speaker 1: one in New Orleans, and there's the Museum. There's like 758 00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,480 Speaker 1: the Museum of Murder. There's the Museum of Jurassic Technology, 759 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,080 Speaker 1: which is super cool. I think we can I'll check 760 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: out when the where are on the West coast. But 761 00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,200 Speaker 1: I feel you guys, I love like you were saying 762 00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: incredibly specific museums. It's why I'm slow on road trips 763 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: because if I if I'm like passing, we did a 764 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,000 Speaker 1: show on this for stuff they want you to know. 765 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,400 Speaker 1: But if I'm like passing just some beat up sign 766 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: that is like the official uh the I'm thinking the 767 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: most ridiculous thing, like the official Museum of left Shoes 768 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: throughout history, guaranteed no writings. Then I'm like, there goes. 769 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 1: Then you know, I gotta go see. Have you seen 770 00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 1: the Bigfoot Museum? And it's real cool and niche. The 771 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: guy that runs it, David what's the guy's name that 772 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: runs at him? David baraka br He is the quintessential niche, 773 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: interest focused, you know, museum curator. He does such a 774 00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: good job. Like the exhibits there are very much just 775 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 1: inspired by I think, like you know, vintage Disney kind 776 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:07,239 Speaker 1: of Epcot type vibes, you know, like Hall of President type. 777 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,719 Speaker 1: I mean it's really really well done, and uh, I 778 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: highly recommend anybody passing through check out. I guess the museum. 779 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,560 Speaker 1: I guess. My question is where's the big Foot Sex 780 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: Toy Museum that's that's the natural progression. This should This 781 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: could be our contribution to museum sciences. We could make 782 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,640 Speaker 1: the Bigfoot. Is there is there a bigfoot chast that 783 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,239 Speaker 1: be built? We can make one. We can apparently just 784 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:34,799 Speaker 1: make them up. So if anyone was gonna hulk their 785 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: way out of a chastity belt, though it's gonna be 786 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:41,600 Speaker 1: a big foot, you can contain those fellas they are us. 787 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:51,000 Speaker 1: It's not just you know, big big shoes. Well, this 788 00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: has definitely altered I don't know about UNI, but this 789 00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:58,440 Speaker 1: altered a lot of the conversations that I'm having in 790 00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: the future. Uh, I am. I've learned a lot. I 791 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:08,160 Speaker 1: don't know if I wanted to learn all of it. Uh, 792 00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: but now I can't. That's our shows, sweet Spot. Stuff 793 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: you made, thought of, you wanted to know about, you didn't. Really, 794 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm starting a nonprofit for goats. This is not it's 795 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,560 Speaker 1: really the things that the stuff we've learned about goats 796 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,000 Speaker 1: on this show. It's unreasonable. Yeah, I think we did it. 797 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,799 Speaker 1: We've talked about every sex toy in history. No, that's 798 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,240 Speaker 1: not true. Now there's a whole other episode getting dedicated 799 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:37,640 Speaker 1: to vibrators. Yes, in pornography, Also I liked all the 800 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:41,279 Speaker 1: porn and brothel stuff out, but it's also very fascinating. Well, 801 00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:44,160 Speaker 1: very excited about that. Ben and all, thank you guys 802 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,080 Speaker 1: so much again for I'm going to join us on 803 00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:48,919 Speaker 1: the show giving us your time for two episodes. Here 804 00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: are you kidding? We got to say cocks and pricks 805 00:51:52,040 --> 00:52:03,279 Speaker 1: and and I mean it fully improvised item. Yes, I 806 00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,600 Speaker 1: mean we're like, we're like kids in a in Aronic bookstore, 807 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:15,840 Speaker 1: an image I did not mean to act. Thanks first 808 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 1: coming by and getting our show canceled. That's what we 809 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,759 Speaker 1: do best. Please tell the tell the good people where 810 00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,279 Speaker 1: they can find you, guys. Absolutely, you can just uh yeah, 811 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,239 Speaker 1: weirdly ridiculous history is just us. So it's Google that 812 00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: business and you'll find it on Apple podcasts, uh, you know, 813 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,920 Speaker 1: the IHR radio app. All the places you get podcast 814 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: were not choosy. You can find it anywhere. You can 815 00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: also find Ben and I as individual human people on 816 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: the internet. 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