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Speaker 1: week twelve, maybe beyond, I don't know anything, maybe some
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day takes. I don't know if we had any
Speaker 1: hot takes on the by Sell trade show ericson I
Speaker 1: think we were. You were selling turkey, I was selling stuffing.
Speaker 1: That seems pretty one two across the board.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I think that's pretty pretty in lockstep with
Speaker 2: I also said something on I think this was the
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Speaker 2: which is a thing that I kind of just like,
Speaker 2: didn't I just didn't include it because that's not where
Speaker 2: I'm from. But some of our listeners and viewers said, no,
Speaker 2: it South got the mac and cheese, And I was like, no,
Speaker 2: what that's right, So mashed potatoes, mac and cheese. Love
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Speaker 2: staple sides, Yeah you have to.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm like it took me back, like mashed potatoes
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Speaker 1: to avoid that awesome snow game. Right the divisional game ericson.
Speaker 1: Wasn't it great? Oh?
Speaker 2: It was Jameis Winston. That man is still trying to
Speaker 2: turn the ball over.
Speaker 1: He did that thing. Yeah, what was your favorite part.
Speaker 2: When he threw that backwards pass that got intercepted?
Speaker 1: I like that. Yeah, that makes me think of Madden.
Speaker 1: Did you see? By the way, Madden released an update
Speaker 1: this week where they added Saquon Barkley's backwards jump over players.
Speaker 1: You can now do that with Saquon Barkley and Madden.
Speaker 2: I'm glad. I'm really glad that they're focusing on the
Speaker 2: mat and Madden because that literally has nothing to do
Speaker 2: with the game whatsoever except it's super aesthetically pleasing.
Speaker 1: Games look the same for fifteen years, but they're like,
Speaker 1: let's make sure we can jump backwards over.
Speaker 2: Guys, and now people will buy it because that's just
Speaker 2: how it works. They've been releasing the same game and
Speaker 2: we continue to buy it because of consumerism. Well, sucker
Speaker 2: work that word, love it.
Speaker 1: We are suckers. All right, let's start answering some of
Speaker 1: your guys's questions for week twelve and beyond. I suppose
Speaker 1: first up on the show for extra point this week
Speaker 1: is our boy, Cornwallace. Cornwallace, what's up?
Speaker 3: Hey, what's up?
Speaker 2: Guys?
Speaker 4: Got a little bit of a doozy for you today.
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 4: All right, So the good news is I'm seven and
Speaker 4: four and I should probably make the playoffs. I'm playing
Speaker 4: the second best team this week. The downside is very
Speaker 4: snake bitten by by apocalypse and I'm having to start
Speaker 4: Jonathan Brooks possibly. So my question is, would you drop
Speaker 4: like a Kirk my second quarterback, Kirk Cousins to grab
Speaker 4: one of these fringy running back thories like a Rochean
Speaker 4: cam Akers to try to give myself the best edge
Speaker 4: possible this week? Or would you make the move and
Speaker 4: say let play it as it lies this week? Rabbit
Speaker 4: Taysom Hill who could really help me make a playoff
Speaker 4: push in the next seven weeks.
Speaker 1: I tend to lean if man, if you can pick
Speaker 1: up a Taysom Hill for the future weeks to play
Speaker 1: to the future weeks, especially if you're locked in on
Speaker 1: that playoff spot. I just don't think if I were
Speaker 1: to pick up someone, it would probably be probably can't Makers,
Speaker 1: But I just don't think they moved the needle enough
Speaker 1: to move off of like the quarterback, or to make
Speaker 1: the future move when it's not going to affect my playoff.
Speaker 1: But it is tough to kind of punt. Do you
Speaker 1: think Akers or Roshan moves the needle a little bit
Speaker 1: over Jonathan Brooks this week ericson to make a move.
Speaker 2: No, I don't. I think that you said it with
Speaker 2: Gusto that you're going to make the playoffs. So I
Speaker 2: believe that you're going to make the playoffs, and then
Speaker 2: this week doesn't matter. So don't sacrifice what looks like
Speaker 2: it might be a better move, because that's the thing
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, too, is you can
Speaker 2: you can say I'm gonna start Roshan over john the
Speaker 2: Brooks and we're gonna see that he's gonna probably be
Speaker 2: ranked ahead of Jonathan Brooks, especially if Deuderstift doesn't play,
Speaker 2: But he could go out and not score any points, right,
Speaker 2: could get hurt, and then you just made that short
Speaker 2: term investment without really thinking about the implications of the
Speaker 2: long term, when that's really what the focus is, not
Speaker 2: winning Week twelve. Focus is to win fifteen, sixteen, seventeen
Speaker 2: and win your championship. So considering you don't need to
Speaker 2: win this week and it's not gonna move the needle enough,
Speaker 2: in my opinion, I would not be worried about I'm
Speaker 2: just throwing Brooks, see what happens, and just deal with
Speaker 2: whatever the outcome is, because again, that may not even matter.
Speaker 2: Brooks's score could not even matter in the grand scheme
Speaker 2: of yours particular matchup, So I wouldn't sweat it, and
Speaker 2: I would just worry about the playoffs and the future.
Speaker 1: Because of the implication. Agreed, Jay, what's up Jay? Premium
Speaker 1: member of the Fantasy pros Discord access to it All. Baby,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 5: Jay?
Speaker 3: Hey guys, that's good.
Speaker 1: We're doing good. Dude, what do you got awesome?
Speaker 6: So Ericson, I actually asked you a pretty similar question
Speaker 6: in your AMA. I asked if it would be a
Speaker 6: good move to make to trade away Neighbors and Tracy
Speaker 6: to get to HM, and the manager came back with
Speaker 6: a CHAN and Jamison Williams for neighbors, Tracy and Chase Brown.
Speaker 6: I'm thinking that's probably a no go, but I wanted
Speaker 6: to get your thoughts on that one.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no no, no. Chase Brown is I mean,
Speaker 2: he's a top running back a ress the season if he
Speaker 2: has the same workload, if they don't change his role
Speaker 2: at all, Yeah, you can't trade Chase Brown.
Speaker 1: Were you doing the trade neighbors and Tracy to get
Speaker 1: a HM?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a lot of depth. I guess
Speaker 1: I'd be curious, like what was you want?
Speaker 2: You want to you want two giants on your team?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: A great point like.
Speaker 2: That, that's it, Like that's the play. It's like no,
Speaker 2: because again we I think that we kind of agree,
Speaker 2: like we're more on the Tracy side.
Speaker 1: I was not to say that the bicycle shop we did,
Speaker 1: we were buying Tracy and selling neighbors.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's a scenario where they both should be sold,
Speaker 2: right where this this giant thing just crumbles. But if
Speaker 2: we have to pick a side where it's optimistic. Wh're
Speaker 2: more optimistic about Tracy than neighbors. And to mitigate the
Speaker 2: most risk would be to remove all giants from the
Speaker 2: equation and just not sweat at all and just get
Speaker 2: a chan who's the top I've running back rest of
Speaker 2: the season and then not worry about it.
Speaker 1: And just also like there's a principal side of it too,
Speaker 1: like he's just like, well, no, I'll give you this
Speaker 1: other okay receiver, give me another, and just like no,
Speaker 1: just don't trade with those people, Like just if you want,
Speaker 1: you come back and say this is the trade that
Speaker 1: I'll do, and if they don't do it, move on.
Speaker 1: You're not in the worst spot in the world having
Speaker 1: neighbors in Tracy. But there's not these people that just
Speaker 1: have to get every little dime oud of on that.
Speaker 2: Right, you mean like people that oh, well, you know,
Speaker 2: just throwing fifty dollars of your fab and then then
Speaker 2: we'll make it happen. Ye oh my god. That to
Speaker 2: me makes me so angry, like are you really serious?
Speaker 2: Like is this serious? Just throw me round, brock like
Speaker 2: I got just throw me a six round rookie pick.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, just then we're good. It's like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: the thing now. I mean, I guess I do agree
Speaker 1: like I would internetshell rather have a chan. And it's
Speaker 1: it's as stupid as it sounds. You just saying like,
Speaker 1: do you really want two giants? Like that's a good point,
Speaker 1: that's a good I don't want.
Speaker 2: To know you don't. You don't, you don't want to Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's funny. Schmidt another Premium member, what's up? Schmidt?
Speaker 2: Yo?
Speaker 7: What's going on?
Speaker 8: Guys?
Speaker 9: Yo?
Speaker 10: Yo?
Speaker 1: What do you got for us?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 7: So I just dropped my team in the check kind
Speaker 7: of got a little bit of a lengthy question. So
Speaker 7: I know Eric Smith has been adamant on trying to
Speaker 7: trade ce d Lamb, but he's my three right now
Speaker 7: and I've been trying to shop him around. I've only
Speaker 7: gotten one like off or for him, and it was
Speaker 7: CD and Bucky Irving for Pretty Day Flowers and Christian Watson,
Speaker 7: which I was kind of leaning more towards No, just
Speaker 7: because I feel like I was diminishing my RB. Dad
Speaker 7: thinks I don't really got that many, but I want
Speaker 7: to know what you guys think.
Speaker 1: Nah, I don't like that he has Mahomes a quarterback.
Speaker 1: He starts right now, are Mahomes, Henry Tracy, Jefferson, AJ
Speaker 1: Brown McBride, And then Lamb is at flex. You don't
Speaker 1: have a great bench, but you do have Bucky Irving.
Speaker 1: So doing that trade, I don't know, you're then putting
Speaker 1: like two similar quarterbacks in Zay over Lamb. See Zay
Speaker 1: over Lamb is the thing that's probably gonna mix up
Speaker 1: ericson here. And then I don't like the idea of
Speaker 1: giving up Bucky. I don't know, what do you say
Speaker 1: that that trade essentially equates to, like, he doesn't have
Speaker 1: great running back depth, he gets pretty, but then he
Speaker 1: swaps flowers for Lamb. I just don't think you need
Speaker 1: to do that. But what say you ericson you making
Speaker 1: that move?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: I mean I don't want to trade away Bucky. And
Speaker 2: and you said Lamb's is his receiver three that's fine.
Speaker 2: It's the concern is if Lamb is your Hey, if
Speaker 2: he doesn't fire, my team is screwed. You're in a
Speaker 2: situation where he's your flex like and that means he
Speaker 2: needs to be compared to their flex plays. So like, oh,
Speaker 2: your opponent has Christian Watson in the flex I have Lamb.
Speaker 1: It's a great point, well.
Speaker 2: Exactly, So I think that just adjusting expectations with Lamb
Speaker 2: is important. But if you're now deploying him in your mind,
Speaker 2: oh well he's my three, well he's never going to be.
Speaker 2: He's going to be a top twenty receiver ranked most weeks.
Speaker 2: So I think that you should just keep him. And
Speaker 2: like we've both talked about in the show earlier, with
Speaker 2: the trades, you don't want to trade with a bucket
Speaker 2: everything like this is he's slated really really well the
Speaker 2: rest of the season, the rest of the way. So
Speaker 2: given that you don't have a lot of running back
Speaker 2: depth as it is, you just want to keep Bucky.
Speaker 2: And I think Lamb is fine with where you have him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I like how you said it too. I
Speaker 1: really like that, like you need to compare him at
Speaker 1: this point to the other flexes, and that's probably one of,
Speaker 1: if not the best flex of your league. So that
Speaker 1: is actually kind of an advantage there, and you know
Speaker 1: there's some upside. Grizzly Adams Grizzly a lot of cartoon
Speaker 1: Abby's today we had a SpongeBob and this one's a
Speaker 1: Homer what's up? Grizz unmute that mic yo, here you go?
Speaker 9: Check check?
Speaker 11: Can you hear me?
Speaker 1: We check check?
Speaker 2: We got you alrighty.
Speaker 11: How's it going, guys? This week's a little bit of
Speaker 11: a doozy because it's a rematch against my first opponent
Speaker 11: of the season. He beat me by one point so
Speaker 11: in the playoff run and everything like that starts to question.
Speaker 11: I've got Cedric Tillman starting right now, but I've also
Speaker 11: got Elijah Moore on my bench, and little birdies tell
Speaker 11: me that Steelers have a little bit of a weakness
Speaker 11: against the slot receivers. So if it had to be
Speaker 11: between Tillman and Moore, which one would it be.
Speaker 1: It's a good question. I'm actually I've been I'm kind
Speaker 1: of pro Tilman this week because I think Judy is
Speaker 1: going to get top dog coverage, but we should. I mean,
Speaker 1: sometimes that slot stuff does us wrong Parker Washington. But
Speaker 1: you know, with a guy like Eli Moore who's going
Speaker 1: to get targets, there might be something there. Eileen Tillman
Speaker 1: on this one, ericson where are you siding?
Speaker 2: Well, this game our happened, so keep that in mind.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I forgot, Sorry Tilman. Oh yes, we said
Speaker 1: I just got entranced in the whole thing. Uh, it
Speaker 1: was Tilman was a great start.
Speaker 2: Tilman was a great start.
Speaker 1: Next question, yeah, next week completely then playing on the
Speaker 1: whole thing, bucks Man, what's up? Bucks going? What do
Speaker 1: we got today?
Speaker 12: So that's two questions. Both stare in the league scoring
Speaker 12: the first league tight end start SI question, how would
Speaker 12: you guys go Hunter, Henry or Hockinson this week?
Speaker 1: Henryson? Yeah? Oh Henry, uh not.
Speaker 2: Hawkinson's not getting the full snap snaps man, like that's
Speaker 2: the issue. He's not seen the full compliment. And Bears
Speaker 2: games in Chicago are just gross, like they're close scoring,
Speaker 2: not fun for fantasy where Rams or excuse me, Patriots
Speaker 2: and Dolphins could be like higher scoring.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and Miami's I like the matchup. He is
Speaker 1: ranked higher in ECR. I believe Hunter Henry's eight to
Speaker 1: Hawkinson's ten. You're just safer to go with Henry. In general,
Speaker 1: the upside hasn't presented itself with Hawkinson. What was a
Speaker 1: question two?
Speaker 12: So the second question is standard scoring still? So super
Speaker 12: flex league and quarterback So I have both CJ. Stroud
Speaker 12: and Drake May and there right next to each other.
Speaker 12: I just I don't know if I could trust some J.
Speaker 12: He's got scored ten points in like five weeks.
Speaker 1: So it's one or the other. Yeah, okay, oh sorry,
Speaker 1: I cut you off, my bad. Drake May or CJ. Stroud,
Speaker 1: I believe both are back to back in ECR if
Speaker 1: I have that correctly. CJ's got Tennessee, Drake May has
Speaker 1: got Miami. I am a just an idiot sucker for CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud at all times, but I don't I don't know
Speaker 1: if I can do it with that matchup. I might
Speaker 1: lean Drake May here, what's say you?
Speaker 2: Yeah, this would be much easier to just say Drake
Speaker 2: May because you think, oh, well, he's got the rushing right,
Speaker 2: but he hasn't been rushing nearly as much since he
Speaker 2: had his concussion, which isn't necessary. I'm looking at it.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to look at his game all right now,
Speaker 2: just to confirm, like what is I'm thinking in my mind?
Speaker 2: I mean, I have Drake May ranked ahead just as
Speaker 2: easy our have May ahead too. And I know he
Speaker 2: said the rank back to back, but is metge.
Speaker 1: Technically Oh no, no, Stroud is fifteen, May is sixteen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is a that is just Stroud just doesn't
Speaker 2: score fantasy point.
Speaker 1: He's just that's his problem, man, just like do the things.
Speaker 2: He just doesn't score fantasy points. I know, I'm looking
Speaker 2: at May's so May even so like he's not rushing
Speaker 2: as much, but I mean he still has twenty plus
Speaker 2: rushing yards last two games. Obviously it's down from what
Speaker 2: when he had ninety five yards against the uh the
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans. I think I'm still going to go with
Speaker 2: Drake May, just again they can't control when he scrambles.
Speaker 2: Like that's not a called running player, that's him. I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna run no matter what. So yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it sucks to because if Stroud, if that seventy seven
Speaker 2: yard touchdown to Colins like happens, you're probably just starting Shroud, right.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's just a weird thing to think about. It's like, well,
Speaker 2: he would have gonna give you one last week if
Speaker 2: that play is counted, right, So now, I mean I
Speaker 2: still have May ahead of him, and I think May
Speaker 2: offers more as a rusher, and usually that's like the
Speaker 2: safe way to go. It's not like the Titans matchup
Speaker 2: is good. They're they're pretty good defense.
Speaker 1: So something I'll throw a little other little context and
Speaker 1: if you guys check out Fantasypros dot com slash ranks,
Speaker 1: when you check out the weekly ranks, I think you
Speaker 1: know it's not like insane breakdown analysis, but there's some
Speaker 1: cool just hits on here of like the grade of
Speaker 1: the start and sit, the matchup rating projections. Of notes,
Speaker 1: they're both three star of five star ratings. They're both
Speaker 1: rated A C. This is May and Stroud. Interesting thing.
Speaker 1: Stroud is projected point three more points from Fantasy Pros
Speaker 1: over May. But average differential is pretty interesting because and
Speaker 1: we put this up, this is the average points per
Speaker 1: game above or below projections over the last sixteen games.
Speaker 1: Stroud is almost three points less than his projections he's scoring,
Speaker 1: and May is scoring around two plus points over his
Speaker 1: projections over that time. So it's almost one for one.
Speaker 1: Just one guy is kind of consistently beating their projections
Speaker 1: where Stroud is not. If that means anything to you.
Speaker 2: Tell me that c J. Stroud's been disappointment without telling
Speaker 2: me c J. Stroud's been disappointment. Basically, that's exactly what
Speaker 2: it's saying. It's like, we all know he's not been
Speaker 2: good and he hear the numbers to back it up.
Speaker 1: My homie Strettis Drettis?
Speaker 3: What up?
Speaker 9: Oh hey, guys, how are you?
Speaker 1: What's up? Me and Dreddis have been talking about the
Speaker 1: Katie Taylor and Serrano fight? Did you watch those ericson?
Speaker 1: I know you don't watch like Tyson.
Speaker 2: I didn't know because you have to sit down at
Speaker 2: like eight o'clock and then get away like four hours
Speaker 2: for the regular fight to happen. I heard it was
Speaker 2: good though, right the Awest Female site. That's what I heard.
Speaker 9: You just skipped the first several fights and didn't turn
Speaker 9: it on near the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't even like start watching until the Katie
Speaker 1: Taylor fight.
Speaker 2: Started, so I didn't either.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there we go, all right, jud us, What up?
Speaker 9: I just have a couple quick sid start questions if
Speaker 9: that's okay, because I checked on the Fantasy Pro site
Speaker 9: and they're all like back to back fifty five forty
Speaker 9: five splits. How are you guys feeling about Anthony Richardson
Speaker 9: this week? I've got to play him for Josh Allen.
Speaker 9: Him or Drake may are my two choices.
Speaker 1: Oh this is Richardson.
Speaker 9: Richardson so scared with him?
Speaker 1: Though, let me okay, let me throw it. Here's the
Speaker 1: I'm raising my hand. This is Welsh for Ericson Jared
Speaker 1: Goff against Indy or now follow me here, or Richardson
Speaker 1: against Detroit. But the thought process is, I really feel
Speaker 1: like it's going to be a heavy running game from Detroit.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a Montgomery Gibbs on the ground. I'm
Speaker 1: a little concern. It's a great matchup four star rating.
Speaker 1: Golf is ranked seventh, Richardson is thirteenth. Detroit is tougher,
Speaker 1: but Detroit's secondary is what you can do. So if
Speaker 1: the Cults are playing from behind and Richardson is slaying
Speaker 1: in it, is there any scenario where you play Richardson
Speaker 1: over golf? Erickson, No, okay, nope.
Speaker 2: I just the thing with golf is you talked about
Speaker 2: we'll just run the ball. They be conlearded to make
Speaker 2: that argument every single week.
Speaker 1: That's sure Scots when they score fifty points, it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter exactly.
Speaker 2: It's just like with golf. It's just like, yes, like
Speaker 2: there're gonna be some games where he just doesn't score
Speaker 2: because they go to the running backs. But like he
Speaker 2: was a QB one last week against Jaguars because they're
Speaker 2: a horrible defense, like the Cults are not a good deal.
Speaker 2: Like I just don't want to overthink it with golf
Speaker 2: and if if if the Lions score thirty five points
Speaker 2: and golf isn't good, like I can live with myself.
Speaker 2: It's like it's not like he was bad. But I mean,
Speaker 2: the Lions have the highest implied team total every single week,
Speaker 2: So I want the quarterback.
Speaker 1: And it's a bad it's a bad defense. But dread
Speaker 1: is like more to your point, like I'm like with
Speaker 1: Ericson a bit, like I think there's some sneaky value
Speaker 1: with Richardson. He had the second highest adjusted completion percentage
Speaker 1: of any quarterback last week, and that's something he's been
Speaker 1: on the opposite end of. He's been one of the
Speaker 1: worst completion quarterbacks and that really turned back through And
Speaker 1: because you can throw on Detroit, I do think it
Speaker 1: makes him a viable option and definitely over May. So
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna co sign that with.
Speaker 2: I also think he's gonna run, Like he's not limited
Speaker 2: to run right like May, I think is more limited,
Speaker 2: like they're calling rushing plays. I mean, Richardson's like I
Speaker 2: want to run and get hit and then like I'm
Speaker 2: ready to go, Like that's what he needs to get
Speaker 2: like in rhythm, Like that's what he needs. He just
Speaker 2: he's a rhythm passer, like he needs to get momentum.
Speaker 2: And I think the quarterbacks that like get hit, Like
Speaker 2: I think he likes that. He's like, all right, I
Speaker 2: got hit. No, no, let's play.
Speaker 1: I don't think he likes that. He likes to check out,
Speaker 1: tap that helmet.
Speaker 2: Like, no, not anymore. He's he's reformed.
Speaker 1: Oh he's good.
Speaker 2: Now he learns.
Speaker 9: What's that over under on him tapping out again?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's it. Like I don't want I
Speaker 1: don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'll ever do it again because.
Speaker 1: He won't tell anybody. No, he won't tell anybody.
Speaker 2: He's gonna lie he's cramps my ham stream. It'll be funny.
Speaker 2: He'll be and he'll be at the press conference and
Speaker 2: he'll me do like air quotes like cramps.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well we He'll just give a little wink like yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm just a chill dude, what else you got?
Speaker 1: Dretta's okay?
Speaker 9: Next one real quick nu Joku with the weather tonight
Speaker 9: or John Newsmith?
Speaker 2: Well, well, we had a great jo had a great game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went within Joku because it was you know,
Speaker 1: he's a good tight end matchup. I do like Johnny though,
Speaker 1: but we we unfortunately both were We fortunately went with
Speaker 1: in Djoku.
Speaker 9: Yes, yeah, okay, last one was for my flex. Got
Speaker 9: either Pollard with with the concussion, DeAndre Hopkins or Tillman hollered.
Speaker 1: God teen yards in the last two weeks combined or
Speaker 1: some crap.
Speaker 2: Pollard, Yeah, yeah, Well he's also going to play like
Speaker 2: eighty percent of the snaps because Spears isn't playing. Spears
Speaker 2: came back the last two weeks, so that matters, and
Speaker 2: he's not playing.
Speaker 1: So but he wasn't good and he was out there.
Speaker 1: I guess I just why do I not feel who's
Speaker 1: the Where's the team.
Speaker 2: You want to play? You want to play Hopkins, it's
Speaker 2: Houston stops the run.
Speaker 1: He stops around. Who are the other options? It was
Speaker 1: Hopkins and Tilman, Yeah, played, and we didn't start. Tell
Speaker 1: me we didn't start Tillman even though we did.
Speaker 2: Pollard Man process Man eighty percent snapshare for running backs.
Speaker 2: I don't care where they're playing.
Speaker 1: But the protests have Kansas or the Chiefs of the
Speaker 1: Chiefs have Carolina.
Speaker 2: Didn't didn't Deandrew Hopkins score less points worthy last week?
Speaker 1: But didn't he play not Carolina? He also like fifty,
Speaker 1: I'm going, I'm going Hopkins. I I think it might
Speaker 1: be it might be the wrong play. I just Houston
Speaker 1: with the run. Pollard has been inefficient, but Pollard is
Speaker 1: a dude. I've been selling on him. Maybe this is
Speaker 1: the week he breaks through. It's just like Carolina.
Speaker 2: Part of the selling was that Spears was going to
Speaker 2: come back, and now he's back. He's back out again. Like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I just think his floor is so high. What if
Speaker 2: what if the Chiefs are like, oh, We're going to
Speaker 2: run the ball thirty times with the check Kurham hunt
Speaker 2: and then Mahomes barely throw it, Like, I mean, that
Speaker 2: could happen too. So it's a tough That's why I'm follered.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, and I will say last two weeks though,
Speaker 1: I mean this code signs. Remember he had twenty eight
Speaker 1: carries against New England and then they said we want
Speaker 1: to simmer this down. Since that simmer down nine carries,
Speaker 1: nine carries. He has been involved in the passing game.
Speaker 1: It hasn't been a lot. My problem is is he
Speaker 1: said this is a rough stretch for him Chargers Minnesota,
Speaker 1: but so is Houston. So like, if you're going to say,
Speaker 1: what did he do against similar teams, it's that not
Speaker 1: a lot of carries, a few receptions. He's probably safer
Speaker 1: on volume because Hopkins completely disappeared and then we had
Speaker 1: Xavier Worthy, you know, pop up and get more run.
Speaker 1: I just think that kind of rebalances back up and
Speaker 1: I think Hopkins is going to have a touchdown in
Speaker 1: this game. It's super close. Though I will not deny that.
Speaker 1: I think Erickson is the smarter, safer play. I'm just
Speaker 1: not trusting Pollard famous last words. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: let's go into stay in your lane.
Speaker 10: So, hey, guys, I have a couple of questions for
Speaker 10: my half PPR league. I just made a trade that
Speaker 10: went through about twenty minutes ago where I traded away
Speaker 10: Ak Dobbins and Terry McLaurin for Drake London and Brian Robinson.
Speaker 10: Was that a good or a bad deal?
Speaker 9: On my end?
Speaker 10: My other two running backs are Jon and Kamara, So
Speaker 10: just wanted to hear you say it one more time
Speaker 10: for me. Dobbins and McLaurin. But in return, I get
Speaker 10: Drake London and Brian Robinson Junior. I love that.
Speaker 4: I like it.
Speaker 2: I like it for two reasons. Number one, it's a
Speaker 2: good trade, just point blank. Number two, you're rocking the
Speaker 2: playoffs with the double b Robs. Love that. Great for
Speaker 2: the team morale.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, team Morale b Rob, double b Robs. But
Speaker 1: didn't he trade? Oh no, he got the London and the.
Speaker 2: Beat he got b Rob. He now has both b
Speaker 2: Robs and he has the falcon st Act with London
Speaker 2: and Bijon. So they're resting up over the bye week
Speaker 2: to get him to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: So he looks at his buddy and he goes, yo,
Speaker 1: b Rob went off this week. And he goes, oh,
Speaker 1: which one? And he goes exactly exactly. By the way,
Speaker 1: have you seen that? That chill?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 1: Meme? What is that? You're younger than me, you understand things.
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 1: Oh no, you know.
Speaker 2: It's not I mean, just want to look it up.
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's just like it looks like a cartoon
Speaker 1: version of Kevin James when he has his hands in
Speaker 1: his pockets, just going like hey dude.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I love that one. That one's so funny.
Speaker 1: What is this?
Speaker 5: Wait?
Speaker 2: Is it the wait? Is it the Kevin James?
Speaker 1: No, but it's like it's like a dog. It's like
Speaker 1: a dog with the khakis on, and he's just like
Speaker 1: and everybody's just like, oh, you know, down down three
Speaker 1: to seven, probably not going to make the playoffs playing
Speaker 1: the number one team, But I'm a chill dude just
Speaker 1: hanging out playing fantasy football like that would be. That's
Speaker 1: like an audio version of the meme.
Speaker 2: Oh I have not seen this. Okay, I saw that
Speaker 2: is kind of cool though, all right, why do you
Speaker 2: start incorporating them to my content?
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Speaker 1: Are you seeing the guy? That's the guy? Someone put
Speaker 1: it in the chat.
Speaker 2: I want to be this guy for Halloween next year.
Speaker 1: You should totally be this guy. It should be like
Speaker 1: you're we should do like Avi's we are, Abviy's in
Speaker 1: here for discord. Should just be two chill dudes.
Speaker 4: Sweet.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's probably not sweet. There's probably something like
Speaker 1: horrendous behind it, and we just don't know. We're just like,
Speaker 1: look this cool dog with pants. Sweet, I love dogs
Speaker 1: with pants.
Speaker 2: He looks like you should be in the show, Arthur.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he kind of. He looks like a Nickelodeon cartoon.
Speaker 1: But there's probably something.
Speaker 2: So, you know, so we're gonna be talking about one
Speaker 2: year from now now airing on Nickelodeon.
Speaker 1: Still Guy, chill dude, Yeah, Chill Guy exactly.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a brand new show. There's gonna be
Speaker 2: a movie, a theme park.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean Disney is already salivating.
Speaker 1: They'll be like, hey, you hear about the Bluey Chill
Speaker 1: Guy crossover, and it's gonna be amazing. So all right,
Speaker 1: we're going off on rails here, Nick, what's up?
Speaker 2: Nick?
Speaker 13: Come on down if you're having a good Uh is
Speaker 13: it Friday in the podcast world?
Speaker 1: Hey, that's a smart that's a smart play by Nick.
Speaker 1: He understands the people that are listening. That was playing
Speaker 1: to the audience. But yes, we were having a great
Speaker 1: quote Friday, Nick. Hopefully you too.
Speaker 13: Appreciate it. I have a couple questions for you guys.
Speaker 13: One for my Dynasty team, so I'll stick with that
Speaker 13: for the first one. I lost Dak. I've been rolling
Speaker 13: with Matt Stafford, obviously not like ideal. I am making
Speaker 13: a playoff Bush, so I'll probably have to trade for
Speaker 13: like an actual good starting quarterback. But I'm wondering in
Speaker 13: the meantime if he's someone I should be sticking with,
Speaker 13: or I should roll with like a Bryce Younger Tommy
Speaker 13: DeVito type, any of that.
Speaker 1: Oh, no of those options. Stafford, not over those guys.
Speaker 1: I'm not not any of those guys. Do you think Ericson,
Speaker 1: you think Tommy DeVito is gonna get it done?
Speaker 2: I mean, you gotta be really deep into cutlets if
Speaker 2: you're gonna roll Tommy DeVito or I mean, I don't
Speaker 2: think it's like preposterous. I mean, like Stafford is a
Speaker 2: terrible matchup this week, and he is again for last
Speaker 2: week he had been pretty horrible, but he just has
Speaker 2: too many weapons, and maybe I think I rather just
Speaker 2: play Stafford.
Speaker 1: What is by the way, what is a cutlet? Because
Speaker 1: it's a certain way to like it's it's a different
Speaker 1: type of like meat, right, but it's cooked differently. Does
Speaker 1: anybody know what a cutlet is? No, bueler Nick, can
Speaker 1: you tell me what a cutlet is?
Speaker 13: I mean, I want to say it's like a pounded
Speaker 13: out piece of meat that is then like flash fried
Speaker 13: or like pan fried or something. But don't quote me.
Speaker 1: Not okay, So the official quote, the official thing is
Speaker 1: a portion of slice meat breaded and served either grilled
Speaker 1: or fried. That doesn't sound like what I thought a
Speaker 1: cutlet was, But all right, sorry, your next question.
Speaker 13: Worries so I am making a playoff push. I need
Speaker 13: to basically win out in one of my leagues. I
Speaker 13: have the choice between Bucky Irving and Cuba. I feel like,
Speaker 13: based on matchup, Bucky has to be the guy. But
Speaker 13: I'm curious what you guys think, and then kind of
Speaker 13: thinking more so with like the trade line deadline that's
Speaker 13: ending in a couple of days for me in this one,
Speaker 13: if I should be trying to upgrade, like send Cuba
Speaker 13: off last minute to a team and maybe like get
Speaker 13: some more pieces. I have like neighbors Collins, JSN and
Speaker 13: Brian Thomas, and I can only ever start three of them,
Speaker 13: So I don't know if I should be trying to
Speaker 13: like make mini upgrades using like I know Bucky's a
Speaker 13: guy to keep, but like maybe trying to ship Cuba
Speaker 13: off or something like that. It's okay, but for the
Speaker 13: first Bucky or Cuba is the immediate question.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's do start this week Cuba or the
Speaker 1: Bucky Bucky for me, Oh, Cuba is nineteen, Bucky is
Speaker 1: twenty one. I gotta tell you, I agree. I think
Speaker 1: the Panthers will be back behind the entire game. Kansas
Speaker 1: City is the most difficult against the run. I just
Speaker 1: don't love it for Cuba, and he has been a
Speaker 1: monster sure, but and also they were like, oh it,
Speaker 1: Bulls was like a little dismissive where they're like, don't
Speaker 1: you think that Bucky needs more carries? And he's like, sure,
Speaker 1: he deserves more touches, but we got these other guys,
Speaker 1: so we don't know. It's all on game script, but
Speaker 1: it's like, it's a great matchup the giants. I've been staring.
Speaker 1: It's funny. One of the first props I've been staring
Speaker 1: at has been Bucky's rushing yards and it opened up
Speaker 1: at forty nine and it's probably gonna go up a
Speaker 1: little bit higher. I think I lean Bucky here too,
Speaker 1: but that is off consensus, so we both agree with that.
Speaker 1: On the trading Cuba, you know, maybe pairing like Cuba
Speaker 1: in one of those white outs like you know, Brian
Speaker 1: Thomas or something like that in a dynasty. Are you
Speaker 1: trying to do that right now?
Speaker 9: Ericson.
Speaker 1: I kind of don't want to force feed to trade
Speaker 1: right at the deadline just to do it. But if
Speaker 1: someone wants to, like, you know, give me big volume
Speaker 1: like a great diynasty. Oh, it's not dynasty in redraft.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so what do you think on that? Ericson
Speaker 1: trading Cuba and maybe Brian Thomas for something at the deadline.
Speaker 2: I think that in theory he could probably. I mean,
Speaker 2: who's gonna who wants to trade for Tuber right now?
Speaker 2: He's playing, like you said, he's playing the Chiefs like
Speaker 2: no one. I mean, look, I think that you can
Speaker 2: try to trade him if you wanted to do Cuba
Speaker 2: and Brian Thomas for Debo. Maybe Deebo's a good bye
Speaker 2: low because he's been horrible, but he's still a good
Speaker 2: player heard.
Speaker 1: About like I think, I think he kind of it
Speaker 1: seemed like he kind of wanted to upgrade that running
Speaker 1: back the tiny bit because the three wide outs. What
Speaker 1: if you canna get like Brian Robinson for Cuba and
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be just you just have to know
Speaker 2: that Brian tom or Brian Robinson hasn't had his bye
Speaker 2: week yet, so just you have to keep that in mind.
Speaker 2: But no, I think that's I think that's fine. James
Speaker 2: Connor as a bye he's on a coming off his
Speaker 2: bye week. He's an interesting player to try to acquire
Speaker 2: of the top running backs. I mean, ideally, don't you
Speaker 2: like Trade Benson though, I mean I like Trey Benson.
Speaker 2: Assuming that I mean, if I like Tred Benson. But
Speaker 2: it's if James James Connor has to get hurt, right
Speaker 2: and again, if I'm a again, I will say with
Speaker 2: every caveat, if I've ever told you to buy James
Speaker 2: Connor in any way, shape or form, you have to
Speaker 2: make sure you have an access point to Trade Benson.
Speaker 2: So I was just like, I will not invest in
Speaker 2: James Connor unless I have Trade Benson in some way,
Speaker 2: shape or form. So that's yeah, that's how I play it.
Speaker 1: That's good. A lot of cutlet talk in the chat
Speaker 1: here too, so it says any meat can be a
Speaker 1: cutlet from Cornwallis. Pork cutlets are popular in Asian cooking.
Speaker 1: Apparently people love veal cutlets. So I don't know. The
Speaker 1: cutlets are a new thing to me. They're surprised to me.
Speaker 1: I just know the name, and just sometimes you hear
Speaker 1: names and everyone's like yeah, yeah, sure. Then I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: what the hell is that? What's the difference. I think
Speaker 1: this is Savage Premium member on the discord. The name
Speaker 1: can do throughout. I got to give you credit. Throughout
Speaker 1: the year you have kept your name to who TF
Speaker 1: is Welsh? That has not changed whatsoever. What's up, brother?
Speaker 3: Well that's a good one.
Speaker 1: Pretty good? Are you okay? What's going on?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 3: Man, I'm slick right? Whether is garbage where I'm at?
Speaker 3: It's been snowing for twelve hours?
Speaker 1: Oh really, it's seventy four degrees where I live right now?
Speaker 3: Oh well, lucky you, it's about twenty five thirty freezing
Speaker 3: cold snowing for twelve hours. But I really need your
Speaker 3: guys to help, if ever more so now than ever.
Speaker 1: Well's let's lift your spirits. What do we got?
Speaker 3: So I clinched the playoffs in my league. I am
Speaker 3: one game away from getting a first round by and
Speaker 3: realistically my last three games, I've only got to beat
Speaker 3: the guy next week. And if I beat him, it's
Speaker 3: a guaranteed buy because he's the only person in my
Speaker 3: division and I got a two game lead on him,
Speaker 3: so mathematically, if I beat him, he can't beat me,
Speaker 3: even if he wins the rest of his games. I
Speaker 3: am a quarterback away from a playoff push. Really, I
Speaker 3: have stroud to let me down all season.
Speaker 13: I've got an.
Speaker 3: Offer to trade for Kyler, but I'm gonna have to
Speaker 3: probably give up, you know, something minor with Stroud to
Speaker 3: get him, because the guy is not gonna start Tyler.
Speaker 3: He's played in the name Daniels. I feel like that's
Speaker 3: a lateral move, Am I am?
Speaker 9: I crazy?
Speaker 1: Is it Redraft? Is it Dynasty?
Speaker 3: It's it's a it's a keeper league. But like, I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna be keeping either one of these guys next year.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be keeping some other players that actually have value.
Speaker 1: What do you think that.
Speaker 3: Like Stafford?
Speaker 5: But what do you think the actually so I'm a
Speaker 5: bit of a douche.
Speaker 3: I went out and grabbed Swift's handcuff. The Swift might
Speaker 3: not play this week. The guy that I'm trading to
Speaker 3: get Kyler has Swift. He needs his running back because
Speaker 3: he has to win out. So I would have to
Speaker 3: trade Rochan and Stroud for Kyler.
Speaker 1: Easy things. Yeah, that's we're we're under with Stroud has
Speaker 1: been such so underperforming. I think Kyler has such a
Speaker 1: more of a floor. Rochan has nothing to give up with.
Speaker 2: That, right, I mean, you got Rochan for free, so
Speaker 2: you're just pretend like you had never picked him up,
Speaker 2: Like and then you just made the trade anyway, right,
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's mental warfare. This is a mental warfare, and they
Speaker 1: just pretend you didn't do the thing, and you're getting
Speaker 1: like free Kyler, sweet good on, you will exactly will.
Speaker 5: What's up? Hey, guys, I got a couple questions for you.
Speaker 5: The first one is a trade offer. I'd love you
Speaker 5: to weigh in on. So I'm in full PPR. I'm
Speaker 5: seven and four tied for second place, but everybody's bunched
Speaker 5: up tight behind me and the guy in twelve could
Speaker 5: still technically make the playoffs, so I'm not in I'm
Speaker 5: not in a good good shape necessarily. So trade offer
Speaker 5: is giving up amnraw, Jacobs and Warren, oh my for Pickens,
Speaker 5: Bijeon and Alder.
Speaker 1: Okay, so one more time you gave you have to
Speaker 1: did this go down or it doesn't? Ever it went
Speaker 1: down or out uprating it? But this is a manra.
Speaker 5: Yep, Jacobs and Warren for Pickens, Bijeon and Algier.
Speaker 1: So this is essentially the last guy in each trade
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. So this is uh, Pickens and Jacobs or
Speaker 1: Bijeon And why can't I not process the first who's
Speaker 1: the receiver?
Speaker 5: And Ra and Jacobs. On my side, I'd be giving
Speaker 5: them up. Yeah for Pickens and Bijeon.
Speaker 1: Oh, you get Pickens and Bijon. That's what it is. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm screwing up. So ericson what side of
Speaker 1: that a Manra Jacobs or Pickens Bijeon side? I just
Speaker 1: don't want.
Speaker 2: To the best player. He's the best player. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: would trade on Moro get Bijon. He's the best player
Speaker 2: in the deal.
Speaker 1: I'm down with it. I mean, Pickens is such a
Speaker 1: like we're talking about him as like a top ten
Speaker 1: white out rest of season. Jacobs is probably fringy top
Speaker 1: ten running back. There's almost a feel of lateralness to
Speaker 1: it where it's like, if you need the running back
Speaker 1: stuff more, it leans on that side. But yeah, Bjeon's
Speaker 1: the best player, So I'm I'm good with that. I
Speaker 1: lean on the Bejon side as well. Was there another question?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I'm curious what you guys think about Pa
Speaker 5: check O Week fifteen to seventeen Fantasy Playoffs.
Speaker 1: I think we talked a little bit about that on
Speaker 1: the baise Hold Show ericson, But the interesting twist to
Speaker 1: that is we were talking I think a little bit
Speaker 1: more like close into like week thirteen, Week fifteen. He
Speaker 1: does have the potential to have had, you know, three
Speaker 1: weeks or a minimum two weeks behind him of work.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he can ever take back that
Speaker 1: full workload because Hunt has been successful. I kind of
Speaker 1: think it would be a fifty to fifty ish. But
Speaker 1: what's say you week fifteen on for Pacheck? Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: or nay.
Speaker 2: Nay for me because he plays Week sixteen seventeen the
Speaker 2: Texans and the Steelers. So I just I maybe I'm
Speaker 2: totally wrong and just Checko's going to make me eat
Speaker 2: my words. But we guys don't come back from his
Speaker 2: injury in our fishing. We've seen it twice already. Taked
Speaker 2: Owl still coming back from the fractured fibula, Tony Pollard
Speaker 2: that himself took almost half the season. I feel like
Speaker 2: himself again after he fractured his fibula. It's the same
Speaker 2: exact injury with Pachecko. So I don't even know if
Speaker 2: it even matters whether he gets his job back or not.
Speaker 2: I just don't think he's going to be super effective.
Speaker 2: He's going to be the same explosive rusher. So I
Speaker 2: mean again, I could be wrong. I have him one
Speaker 2: dynasty team where my running backs need help so much,
Speaker 2: so I'd be happy to be wrong in the space
Speaker 2: in the points where I have Pachecko. But I'm just
Speaker 2: not optimistic. And then giving those matchups in the playoffs,
Speaker 2: the whole Coffee are going to feel playing him. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm not really optimistic about pacheckick rest season, but.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of lost with it. I want to
Speaker 1: see what it ends up looking like. I have the test,
Speaker 1: I have him my two ffbc's both are looking good
Speaker 1: for playoffs. One is guaranteed for championship round and the
Speaker 1: one that's guaranteed for championship round. I have Pachecko on
Speaker 1: the bench. So fifteen sixteen seventeen is when it's time
Speaker 1: for him, and it's all going to be determined by
Speaker 1: what we see, which I don't know if it'll be
Speaker 1: this week but the week after, and to see like
Speaker 1: can he can get to like fourteen fifteen if he got
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb usage, I think he can work under that.
Speaker 1: I'm just not sold that that's gonna happen, and I
Speaker 1: would be really worried that the really core spots, you know,
Speaker 1: red zone. They would bring hunting, you know for the
Speaker 1: big you know, pounding on the body. So I don't know.
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Speaker 1: can get to everybody in here. Phil, I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna just pick this part of here, Phil, what's up?
Speaker 13: I was trying to see which Jalen you guys think
Speaker 13: we're starting this week?
Speaker 10: Is it going to be Wattle or do we think
Speaker 10: maybe Warren is gonna get a nice workload today?
Speaker 1: Oh, this is such a great question by Phil. I'm
Speaker 1: not to say ericson like, let's do it.
Speaker 9: I want three.
Speaker 2: Also, no one is abiding by the THURSDA night game
Speaker 2: already being played. Everyone's breaking the wrong.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we we didn't start Warren. Yeah it was
Speaker 1: water Yeah no, but people probably didn't hear it. But
Speaker 1: either way, it was wattled. Ericson and I are just
Speaker 1: just massachists for you know, the dolphins thing. And and
Speaker 1: I look at it and it's like we we talked
Speaker 1: about this before. It was like, oh my gosh, the
Speaker 1: coverage you're probably going to have more lockdown coverage on
Speaker 1: hill seems like a great opportunity. I've seen some other
Speaker 1: in the uh the universe, the little twitter verse of
Speaker 1: analysts that are kind of on the wattle run this week.
Speaker 1: I've already bet his over unreceiving yards. So I am
Speaker 1: in on Wattle. I know Ericson is as well. Anything
Speaker 1: else you want to add one, I'm not alone there,
Speaker 1: there are we we Yeah, what what's a group of
Speaker 1: penguins called? You know, like crows or a murder?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: Help us?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Hold on?
Speaker 2: Called?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is it just a flock? What is a group of
Speaker 1: penguins called? All right, so it is called it's probably
Speaker 1: going to be like a flock. Uh, they're called a raft.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, no, swimming penguins are called a raft. That
Speaker 1: it is a colin or rookeries or huddles. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of huddle.
Speaker 2: Huddles is good because it's football.
Speaker 1: So yeah, depending on their locations. They can be colonies, rafts, wattles,
Speaker 1: or crochetes. So you you guys are learning a lot
Speaker 1: this week on this episode. You thought it was just
Speaker 1: going to be fantasy football. No, you're learning about cutlets
Speaker 1: and penguins. So take that home. Father man, what's up?
Speaker 1: Father man?
Speaker 9: Hey?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 1: Guys doing today? What do we got?
Speaker 7: I got a quarterback question, a t question for you
Speaker 7: if you don't mind hit it.
Speaker 5: We got a bo Dix or justin Harbert?
Speaker 1: Oh, Herbert, Yeah that's kind.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: Now the ugly man, I got Andrews, I got Hawkins.
Speaker 10: And man, who y'all making?
Speaker 1: Oh that is gross and ugly because Andrew Andrew Andrews.
Speaker 1: But he's back down to your namesake. But he's back
Speaker 1: down and like no stuff again. But I will go
Speaker 1: Andrews as well, because you already mentioned you're distrust in Hawkinson.
Speaker 2: I think to just look at the game environments. Do
Speaker 2: you want to play ancillary piece in Bears Vikings or
Speaker 2: ancillary piece in charges Ravens. That's easy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good point. Dwayne, what's up Dwayne the Rock? Oh?
Speaker 2: Johnson, he's in a new movie about Santa.
Speaker 1: I heard it. I saw the preview for it, and
Speaker 1: my kids like, oh my god, it's gonna be so fun.
Speaker 1: I heard it is just the worst movie.
Speaker 2: That's what I would probably not good.
Speaker 1: Oh what, But like Chris Evans, it just looks the
Speaker 1: worst movie. Dwayne, what's up? Dude?
Speaker 14: Hey you guys, thanks so much for your awesome trade
Speaker 14: advice this year.
Speaker 1: I've got a kudo. What do you got?
Speaker 14: I got a kudo in a question? So the kudo
Speaker 14: is Ericson. I took your advice this week and traded
Speaker 14: Tyreek Hill and JK. Dobbins for a'man Ra and Chuba Hubbard.
Speaker 1: What do you say? Love? Yeah?
Speaker 14: And another trade I'm trying right now is Poka Nakula
Speaker 14: and Brian Robinson trading a way for Joe Mixon and
Speaker 14: DeAndre Hopkins.
Speaker 1: So you're trading away Pooka and Mixon, No, Brian Robinson,
Speaker 1: but Brian Robinson. My brain, Brian Robinson and Pooka to
Speaker 1: get mixing Hopkins. Yeah and Hopkins. I like the mix.
Speaker 1: And what do you think about that? Erickson? I don't
Speaker 1: know if I love that.
Speaker 2: I don't love it. I mean I like Brian Robinson,
Speaker 2: I like Pooka.
Speaker 1: So yeah, me too.
Speaker 2: I feel like you're really buying high on Mixon where
Speaker 2: he's obviously been a monster, but he's not gonna how
Speaker 2: many times are you gonna put He's not gonna face
Speaker 2: Dallas every week? Right, Like that's the thing, Like, yes,
Speaker 2: he's been a monster, he's been smashing, but no, I
Speaker 2: think Brian Robinson is such a good playoff schedule and
Speaker 2: Pooka has been a low end wide receiver one. So
Speaker 2: I guess like Hopkins for me is like maybe I'm
Speaker 2: not as high on Hopkins just because like, yeah, it
Speaker 2: started so well for Hopkins and then he's kind of
Speaker 2: fallen off the last couple of weeks, and it's like
Speaker 2: like do we feel good about Hopkins like every single
Speaker 2: week in our lineup? Like that's the varia Like.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean like when we had that question earlier,
Speaker 1: I think it was Drettis's question where it's like, I
Speaker 1: if Hopkins, if we saw that original version where it's
Speaker 1: like he's getting the eight targets and stuff, it's Hopkins,
Speaker 1: he's a top fifteen wide receiver, but we're back to
Speaker 1: this like he can disappear. And any Reid was asked
Speaker 1: about it too, and he was like, well, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: we got other guys. We got to get other guys
Speaker 1: the ball. That's that old school Chiefs thing that I hated,
Speaker 1: where it's like, yes, you have talented players, but let's
Speaker 1: get it to seventeen different players in a game, and
Speaker 1: you don't want that. So the inconsistencies with Hopkins worries
Speaker 1: me a tiny bit. Though this week it's a smash
Speaker 1: because it's Carolina. But yeah, to your point, like, he's
Speaker 1: just not one hundred percent in the trustworthy range. Akron
Speaker 1: maybe Ohio, I don't know, but the name is Akron,
Speaker 1: sup sup y.
Speaker 15: That's that's correct, Acron. I appreciate you having me.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 15: I got a trade off for request fourteen team full
Speaker 15: PPR League. I got offered Marvin Harrison for my DeAndre Swift.
Speaker 15: I got mccaff being Mixing is my starting running backs.
Speaker 15: Then I got Hunts and Swift on my bench, and
Speaker 15: then Jordan Mason is a backup. I'm a little weak
Speaker 15: at wide receiver with McLaurin and more as my starters,
Speaker 15: and then just Deonte on my bench. What do you
Speaker 15: think about giving up Swift for Marvin Harrison Jr?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Ibout say so Mash, we should have we should have
Speaker 2: cut him off because it was like, yes, yes, I
Speaker 2: actually I had.
Speaker 1: My finger on the on the like put down the
Speaker 1: stage thing because I just was going to go yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: yes yes yes yes yes yes yes absolutely. We're both
Speaker 1: not into Swift right now. Marvin is a great buy,
Speaker 1: especially if you're even if you work wide receiver. Like
Speaker 1: when you when he was about to start doing the breakdown,
Speaker 1: was be like, I don't need the breakdown. I'm doing it.
Speaker 2: You don't need any I had me at Swift Trade. Yes,
Speaker 2: Harrison done nothing else matter.
Speaker 1: I don't need any of it else, all right. H
Speaker 1: Nes h Nes two six Premium member on the Fantasy Bros. Discord.
Speaker 1: I don't think we've talked to h Nez. Probably some
Speaker 1: other way to say, what's what's up? What do you got?
Speaker 3: All right?
Speaker 16: So I got a couple of questions for really just
Speaker 16: one big question. I'm trying to see. I've got a
Speaker 16: couple of running backs, and I've got some receivers that
Speaker 16: I'm looking to sell. Mainly, I don't know what to
Speaker 16: do with Deebo and Garrett Wilson. I feel like they've
Speaker 16: been kind of disappointing over the last couple of weeks. Uh,
Speaker 16: I don't know if I'm need to be trying to
Speaker 16: get a running back in return. I feel like my
Speaker 16: receivers are pretty set. I got George Pickens and Maconkey
Speaker 16: and then Dobbs, Deebo, Samuel Jamison, Williams, Garrett Wilson, I'm worthy,
Speaker 16: so I'm pretty set at receiver for leg But the
Speaker 16: main question is who should I be trying to sell
Speaker 16: to maybe upgrade at running back?
Speaker 1: Oh so or Wattle?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 16: Now, I'll have Wattle, have Debo and Garrett Wilson. I
Speaker 16: fel like those the two guys I'm kind of maybe
Speaker 16: trying to sell to get a better running back. I
Speaker 16: only have Jacob Stevenson, Bucky Irving and put.
Speaker 1: Jacob okay, So it's which one of these way? He
Speaker 1: sounded like Debro kind of is throwing me off. Which
Speaker 1: one would you want to sell Garrett Wilson or Deebo
Speaker 1: if you're in the acquisition of a running back and
Speaker 1: do the assumption that like both guys get the same,
Speaker 1: because I think the easy answer there might be like, hey,
Speaker 1: take the dude who gets you more. Because I kind
Speaker 1: of agree with that I am down on Deebo a
Speaker 1: little bit. I still think Garrett Wilson's the number one there,
Speaker 1: but I think that team is just tumbling. So assume
Speaker 1: they both get you the same guy, which one are
Speaker 1: you moving off of, Deebo or Garrett?
Speaker 16: Hmm?
Speaker 2: I'd probably say Deebo. And then I like Garret Wilson's
Speaker 2: playoff schedule, and I get that the Jets, you don't
Speaker 2: need to be high on them, But the Jets have
Speaker 2: been like this before. They were already like this. They
Speaker 2: were like this last year, right like gloom and Dooman
Speaker 2: they were still their skill players were still putting up
Speaker 2: points to an extent. I mean, they play the Jaguars
Speaker 2: in the Rams like those are such good matchups in
Speaker 2: the fantasy playoffs. So Garret Wilson has just been better
Speaker 2: than Debo in general anyway this season. So I guess
Speaker 2: Deebo would be the guy that I would trade away
Speaker 2: as your running backs, though, like I don't hate the
Speaker 2: running backs. Then you have Stevenson, Bucky and Jacobs. That's
Speaker 2: a pretty strong trio. Like, I think you're gonna start
Speaker 2: those guys mostly every single week rest of season. I
Speaker 2: don't see why you wouldn't. So I mean, I feel
Speaker 2: like you're like shopping in like the Brian Robinson area
Speaker 2: of the grocery store, which and then you're going to
Speaker 2: be in a situation where, Okay, now do I start
Speaker 2: Brian Robinson, Bucky or Rondre Stevenson this week? And it's
Speaker 2: kind of like we're back to square one, right, So
Speaker 2: you have I think, if anything, like you gotta trade
Speaker 2: like both those receivers to get like a like a mixing,
Speaker 2: or like you could like like a big like a
Speaker 2: big running back upgrade or like Montgomery where it's like
Speaker 2: no doubt, never questioning whether I'm gonna start him or
Speaker 2: sit them. Whereas your three running backs you have, they're good,
Speaker 2: but none of them are like, oh, like smash plays.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, that's kind of the way I'm
Speaker 2: seeing it. So yeah, I guess I just don't know
Speaker 2: what you're gonna get for Deebo because he's just been
Speaker 2: so disappointing. Like I guess it's like Dave Montgomery maybe,
Speaker 2: but like I don't know who's trading away, Like if
Speaker 2: you have a lion, I don't know why you trade
Speaker 2: them away, Like all they do is score.
Speaker 1: I think you said it, well though, I think that's
Speaker 1: the way to approach it. Maybe move both of those
Speaker 1: guys take the best cost. I'm down with. I don't
Speaker 1: like the last. I don't know if I love the
Speaker 1: lateral thing of moving like one of those dudes to
Speaker 1: like you said, like we'll get like you know.
Speaker 2: Just kind of running back. Yeah, like four running backs
Speaker 2: that you're kind of like. Again, we get in our
Speaker 2: minds we think, oh, like, I love the flexibility, but
Speaker 2: then it's like, oh no.
Speaker 1: No, flexibility stinks.
Speaker 2: You don't have to figure to start.
Speaker 1: Well, I do exactly so.
Speaker 2: Well, that's obviously why you have my playbook and and
Speaker 2: us to help you make those starts of the question.
Speaker 2: But if you can get ahead of it and make
Speaker 2: your life easier, uh, don't do these at trades.
Speaker 1: That's right, all right? Two quick more before we get
Speaker 1: out of here. Charlie, the Charlie pupp what's up, Charlie?
Speaker 2: How you guys doing.
Speaker 1: We're doing great, man? What do you got?
Speaker 2: Let me put it in the chat.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a long question.
Speaker 2: I appreciate a couple of trade questions and then just
Speaker 2: some some general fantasy provist questions.
Speaker 1: Thanks, guys, okay, okay, you just can't. I like that.
Speaker 1: He came on. I see that. That was actually very
Speaker 1: slick of Charlie. He came on to say, here it
Speaker 1: is in the chat and you just read them.
Speaker 2: It's like radio. You go on, you ask a question
Speaker 2: like I'll hang up and listen and like, first time
Speaker 2: love the show.
Speaker 1: All right, So Lad McConkey for Bucky or Ladd and
Speaker 1: Chubb for Bucky and Brian Thomas Jr. Which Which what
Speaker 1: do you like?
Speaker 2: I'm looking his roster. Oh, so he's getting Lad.
Speaker 1: So if you get trade away to get Lad, I'm
Speaker 1: down to that. Yes, I'm also I'm also down with
Speaker 1: oh wait, So the other one would be he would
Speaker 1: trade Donkey and betj to get Lad and Chubb. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't want to know that one.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if I love the Lad thing,
Speaker 2: because look at his team. He already has Chase Collins,
Speaker 2: Garrett Wilson and Jassent. That's for a guy you're starting
Speaker 2: every single week. So now you're you're adding in Lad
Speaker 2: going back to Okay, well, now you have to make
Speaker 2: more decisions.
Speaker 1: He's his top uh backup running back too. It would
Speaker 1: go to Jalen Warren if he got rid of him.
Speaker 1: Good point, yeah, don't.
Speaker 2: You can't start. And Brian Robinson has a bye week too,
Speaker 2: so like you're in week fourteen, you have eight Chan
Speaker 2: and then potentially no one else to play. And then
Speaker 2: you have five receivers.
Speaker 1: And check which one out. I'm gonna upgrade. You trade
Speaker 1: number two he can get I don't know he has
Speaker 1: a care about the defense. He can trade away Bucky
Speaker 1: and McBride to get David Montgomery. Hell hell to the yes,
Speaker 1: because then he starts Taysom Hill every week. And now
Speaker 1: you've got David Montgomery and a Chan with Brian Robinson
Speaker 1: as your backup. You already had great whiteouts. Number two, friendo,
Speaker 1: that's the one. Love that all right? There you go,
Speaker 1: last one, Loupe Fiasco.
Speaker 6: Maybe what you got.
Speaker 8: So yesterday I traded.
Speaker 12: I was on the.
Speaker 8: Live shows of the YouTube and I traded uh Dobbins
Speaker 8: to get Pollared and Flowers. But now I got another
Speaker 8: trade that they offered me. Uh, somebody offered me Tracy
Speaker 8: Junior for Swift and BTJ. I'm kind of defense about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think I'm doing I like Tracy. I know
Speaker 1: you don't want to get too heavily invested in Tracy,
Speaker 1: but you trade away. I want Tracy over Swift and
Speaker 1: you have to give up BTJ. I think I would
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 2: You know, they could get something else at little sprinkle,
Speaker 2: A little sprinkle.
Speaker 1: Try to sprinkle and toppings on it.
Speaker 2: I would say, like you get a sprinkle or if
Speaker 2: depending on how many people are in this league, you
Speaker 2: can probably make it. If you can make a decent
Speaker 2: waiver wire addition, then it's fine.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just like, like in a vacuum, like that seems
Speaker 2: like a lot because Swift and Tracy, like, yes, we agree,
Speaker 2: Tracy should be valued higher. Brian Thomas is still I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just have like a I should
Speaker 2: probably have a bad gauge on Thomas because I love
Speaker 2: him so much.
Speaker 1: I do too, I just I don't Jags, I don't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just don't know what it looks like the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. So he's wide receiver. I think I
Speaker 1: can manage that good.
Speaker 2: Tracy and Swift is Swift is hurt right now too,
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Whatever that boom, we did it. Thank you guys so
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