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Speaker 1: on the road, My DearS. My name is Craig Ferguson.
Speaker 1: The name of this podcast is Joy. I talk to
Speaker 1: interest in people about what brings them happiness. My guest
Speaker 1: today is not this animal here. This is Zelda. She's
Speaker 1: one of my dogs, Shamus, my other dog somewhere else.
Speaker 1: But we're very excited because the guest on the podcast
Speaker 1: today is Sisser, the very famous, the best dog trainer
Speaker 1: in the world, and the dog whispering. And it's quite
Speaker 1: a whisper to you today. I'm whispering. I whispering too.
Speaker 1: Quite dog all right, Cisamela enjoy so listen. You have
Speaker 1: to tell me again your first well show was the first,
Speaker 1: you know, dog thing you were doing in England. You
Speaker 1: were worried about your accent.
Speaker 2: I was worrying that I wasn't going to pronounce the
Speaker 2: English proper right, and that was scary. That was scary.
Speaker 1: Yea.
Speaker 2: English comes from it from there. So I learned English
Speaker 2: in America and I learned in the streets him listening
Speaker 2: to the radio, so it's very street like, you know.
Speaker 2: And I listened to rig D in the morning. And uh,
Speaker 2: then Jada, I.
Speaker 1: Learned English from reg D. This that's awesome. I love that.
Speaker 2: At one point I met him, you know, and we
Speaker 2: went to Crustaceans and I told her, listen, I learned
Speaker 2: English through you. So then then Jada Pinker came and
Speaker 2: and and she hired a teacher for me to learn
Speaker 2: the verbs because everything in English.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: And so I knew dogs. I just didn't know how
Speaker 2: I was going to teach this, this land, this group
Speaker 2: of dog glovers, right, because I never experienced people that
Speaker 2: love dogs at this level in my life.
Speaker 3: Well, English people, yeah, they they're crazy for the mad.
Speaker 3: The mad yeah, they're Everybody in Brettain has a dog.
Speaker 3: Everybody in Bretton has a dog. And most of those
Speaker 3: dogs are crap, you know, they're they're.
Speaker 1: Terrible, hopeless little dogs. I've got. I don't want my
Speaker 1: dogs are here, and I don't want them to feel
Speaker 1: like I'm not talking about you. That's right.
Speaker 2: Let them know.
Speaker 1: They're very excited actually that you're here. Zelda came here,
Speaker 1: come here, what do you have? Come here? He's here,
Speaker 1: he's here, you get the say him, come on, come
Speaker 1: on and I'll show you.
Speaker 2: Look he's right owne.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's right here. Now I also have a Jack
Speaker 1: Russell who probably won't come up right about do you
Speaker 1: ever get everybody wants to show you their dog, right?
Speaker 1: Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: Yes, especially with the phone with their with their phone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, people come up and show you photographs of their dogs.
Speaker 1: That's right at the airport. Yeah, when you're when you're
Speaker 1: running behind and stuff, seamous come here, come here, up here,
Speaker 1: up here, look just complete the said, don't disappointment. Come on,
Speaker 1: come on. They're a good Jack Russell. That's right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there he's actually the only good Jack Russell waver there
Speaker 1: is there is there is yeah, all right. So here's
Speaker 1: why I wanted to show you these guys because they're
Speaker 1: very unruly and what I want to talk to you about.
Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about you, of course, yes,
Speaker 1: but I do want to talk to you about the
Speaker 1: halo collar because that's the thing to do, and I'm
Speaker 1: very interested. That's talk me through it, please.
Speaker 2: You know, first of all, it's beautiful to be part
Speaker 2: of technology, right, because the first time that I saw
Speaker 2: technology is when I was a kid watching the Jetsons
Speaker 2: and it was Astro on the treadmill, right, right, that's technology,
Speaker 2: and you know, and and when I came to America,
Speaker 2: I saw treadmills and people's garage and nobody's were using
Speaker 2: it humans or dogs, right, So I learned. I learned
Speaker 2: that technology can help a dog. And in the treadmill
Speaker 2: world is you know, a lot of dogs were not
Speaker 2: walking enough, different from from Europe, right because Europeans walk
Speaker 2: a lot, but people in La were not walking. So
Speaker 2: I started in La, uh doing you know my job.
Speaker 2: I was walking. I was a dog walker. I started
Speaker 2: walking dogs for people. I was walking forty dogs at
Speaker 2: the same time, and that's how it became known. It's
Speaker 2: a Mexican guy in South Central that walks a pack
Speaker 2: of dogs, of leaves dogs. That's crazy that it's crazy, right,
Speaker 2: But that's the literally how I became known because this crazy.
Speaker 1: People would see you doing it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this crazy thing, you know, and I'm Mexican, so
Speaker 2: they thought I was a gang member.
Speaker 1: They didn't think it was like a dog walker.
Speaker 2: But later, you know, later, later people I understood why
Speaker 2: I was doing that. So I start using treadmills because
Speaker 2: people say I don't have time. Oh, don't worry, you
Speaker 2: have a treadmill. Let's put a dog on a treadmill.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So but I learned about the treadmill through Astro on
Speaker 2: the jail. That's fantastic from a cartoon.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But you know, the thing is like they say,
Speaker 1: the guys that came up with the flip phons, the
Speaker 1: were watching Star Trek in the nineteen sixties and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: let's do that, you know what I mean. It's like
Speaker 1: so they watched the science fiction and then you know,
Speaker 1: it becomes part of life. It's amazing.
Speaker 2: So then you know, fast forward and now you know
Speaker 2: I'm learning. Okay, why what can I do for the world?
Speaker 2: You know, besides teacher in the world. Besides you know,
Speaker 2: teaching about energy philosophy, actions, How do I help the
Speaker 2: world to stay focused and to stay consistent, because this
Speaker 2: is where the biggest problem for dog lovers, right to
Speaker 2: stay focused, to stay consistent, to stay disciplined.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So it's three activities that a dog needs to do
Speaker 2: in order for them to have a good life. To
Speaker 2: follow you, to play with you, to explore, follow play,
Speaker 2: explore right. And then each activity has rules, boundaries, limitations right.
Speaker 2: And so this is where people have difficulty. They don't
Speaker 2: Number one, they don't know how to walk a dog.
Speaker 2: Number two, they don't know how to play with the dog.
Speaker 2: Number three they don't know how how far can the
Speaker 2: dog explore? Follow, play, explore right. So by creating a
Speaker 2: technology that can help you with the rules, boundaries, limitations,
Speaker 2: it would allow the dog to become more organized, more discipline,
Speaker 2: and then the behavior that you repeat will become imprint
Speaker 2: and memorize. So the color is literally to help a
Speaker 2: dog remember, follow, play, explore, rules, bundle limitations because a
Speaker 2: lot of times, you know dog lovers, they just go
Speaker 2: on their mind and a lot of people are walking
Speaker 2: with a dog with their phone and.
Speaker 1: Phone that today already their.
Speaker 2: Mind is distracted. So when you are with an animal,
Speaker 2: you know, like people the right, horses, they're more discipline
Speaker 2: than dog people, right, right, they're more in tune to
Speaker 2: the horse. And and because they're focusing on safety, dog
Speaker 2: people focus on affection, they focus on love, they focus
Speaker 2: on fun. Right, So the expectations are different, but that
Speaker 2: sets the dog to fail. That's why it's a lot
Speaker 2: of dogs and shelters because they developed the wrong problem, right,
Speaker 2: But it's not because they were born with the problem.
Speaker 2: Is the human created the problem. By now u'derstanding, By
Speaker 2: now understanding, you know what makes a dog happy, healthy, loving, smart?
Speaker 1: And so what does what does make a dog happy? Healthy,
Speaker 1: loving smart? I mean, like, how do you like when
Speaker 1: you said you got to know how to play with
Speaker 1: your dog? Yeah? Like I think I know how to
Speaker 1: play with the dog, but I don't know. Like I
Speaker 1: throw a thing, the dog brings it back. Actually it
Speaker 1: doesn't really bring it back, sort brings it back and
Speaker 1: then minds away whether is that it?
Speaker 2: For example, on the play, a lot of times people
Speaker 2: think that by throwing the ball a hundred times, the
Speaker 2: dog has more fun, right, right, But if you wait,
Speaker 2: you hold the toy and the dog goes into come
Speaker 2: surrender and waits for it. Then you throw it. That
Speaker 2: has more power than if you throw the ball a
Speaker 2: hundred times, because throwing the ball a hundred times it
Speaker 2: creates a stamina, but also creates this fixation. Right, and
Speaker 2: so the dog, you're going to take the breath into
Speaker 2: such a high level of playing that this dog. Now
Speaker 2: you're going to see the pupils dilated versus when when
Speaker 2: the dog is waiting for the ball, then you throw it.
Speaker 2: Then you send them to fetch for the for the toy.
Speaker 2: And it's best when the toy actually hides and then
Speaker 2: finds it. It's not really ideal when the eyes and
Speaker 2: the ears are only playing. You want to play with
Speaker 2: the toy, right, So people play more like Chuck e Cheese.
Speaker 2: It's very Chucky cheese like, right, versus it's more calm waiting.
Speaker 2: The dog comes surrendered, you throw the toy, You let
Speaker 2: them wait, and the dog likes that's better because that
Speaker 2: is more in the way they hunt right, right, they
Speaker 2: go get it, but they're not crazy getting what they're hunting.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: They're very organized. Everybody everybody participates, everybody is in the
Speaker 2: same frequency, in the same state of mind. You know,
Speaker 2: everybody has their job and you see what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: and so the mind goes into patience, calmness, confidence, and
Speaker 2: then of course once they get what they need is
Speaker 2: love joy. So the celebration is after most people do
Speaker 2: the celebration. There is no waiting, there is no calmness,
Speaker 2: there is no structure. It's a very are the way
Speaker 2: of playing. That's why a lot of times when people
Speaker 2: bring two dogs and they're in the same fixed sated
Speaker 2: stay in a dog park, they end up fighting, right,
Speaker 2: because it's too fixated dogs going after the same object, right,
Speaker 2: and they're back animals.
Speaker 1: They really want to work as a team, right, they do.
Speaker 2: And as pack animals, the human needs to take the
Speaker 2: front position, which most of the time people do. People
Speaker 2: take the back. So this is the dynamic right now,
Speaker 2: as I help people in America. Dog is in the front,
Speaker 2: wife is number two, hits a number three, husband is
Speaker 2: number four. See the guy was on the back of
Speaker 2: the pack, the dog was in the front. Wife is
Speaker 2: number two, hits A number three. So I have to
Speaker 2: change the dynamic because it's unnatural, right, So it should
Speaker 2: be if mom dad in the front kids, but right
Speaker 2: behind the parents and then the dogs in the back.
Speaker 2: If you go to Mexico, that's exactly the dynamic, right.
Speaker 2: So in Latino communities, the grown ups are the pack
Speaker 2: leaders and then the next generation in that at the
Speaker 2: end is the animal.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying there less then is just there
Speaker 2: is no knowledge behind instinct. Is all reaction, right, So
Speaker 2: we have to make sure we control instincts by all
Speaker 2: of us participating as pact leaders who love the animal.
Speaker 1: It's interesting to me, then, how does that manifest? Because
Speaker 1: I hear you in this, and I struggle with this
Speaker 1: a little bit sometimes because I love my dogs, but
Speaker 1: I'm inconsistent a little bit with a dog. Sometimes you're
Speaker 1: in the mood where you can be focused on the dog,
Speaker 1: and sometimes you're like, give me a break for a minute,
Speaker 1: especially if you have a Jack. Actually, you know what,
Speaker 1: I've got to be honest with, Jack Russell is not
Speaker 1: the worst. I have a German shepherd who's lying down
Speaker 1: right now, and I'm not going to say her name,
Speaker 1: but she is very, very needy animals will come up
Speaker 1: with the lick like leg all the time, always kind
Speaker 1: of looking for something, and has a very difficult time settled.
Speaker 1: Is that my fault that the dog's all that? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Oh okay, yeah yeah yeah, because the dog, so the
Speaker 2: nose is telling the dog go smell this, or the
Speaker 2: eyes or the ears or the dog is inchoues and
Speaker 2: they learn to come themselves when they leak the human. Right, right,
Speaker 2: But if the human doesn't create like a distance, the
Speaker 2: dog never knows how to wait. Right. So one of
Speaker 2: the great things that happened, with all my respect to
Speaker 2: the people in COVID, is the word social distance. Remember that,
Speaker 2: so watch your hands, you know, cover your mouth social distance.
Speaker 2: Social distance in the animal world means respect. Most indoor
Speaker 2: dogs do not practice social distance because the humans allow
Speaker 2: intimate approach without any kind of agreement. So the dog
Speaker 2: is just listening to the excitement. Right. The dog is excited,
Speaker 2: the human rewards and sometimes the human doesn't want that,
Speaker 2: but the dog is not clear. So when do I
Speaker 2: give you social distance or where do I come into
Speaker 2: your intimate space? Right? So it's for positions in proximity,
Speaker 2: intimate based personal zone, social song, public zone. The dog
Speaker 2: is very important for the dog to go away from
Speaker 2: you and wait at a distance. It's actually a job
Speaker 2: or in activity, But most indoor dogs do not know
Speaker 2: how to wait.
Speaker 1: When you say, what do you mean by an indoor dog?
Speaker 1: That like a dog who is just like like a
Speaker 1: pet who only goes for walks with the owner and
Speaker 1: that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the new dog, now, right, because you know, many
Speaker 2: years ago the dog was not indoor unless you're right,
Speaker 2: super super rich, right, So so those dogs did practice
Speaker 2: social distance, so you know, generations before, would the dog
Speaker 2: behave a lot better? Yeah, of course because they had
Speaker 2: more rules managed limitations, right.
Speaker 1: Right, So so like that, this is a thing that
Speaker 1: between my wife and I all the time. I'm like,
Speaker 1: shouldn't let the dogs on the furniture. I'm sure I've
Speaker 1: heard you say that before somewhere, But when the dog
Speaker 1: gets up in the furniture that like that, it's crossed.
Speaker 1: Not like, am I right with that? Or did I
Speaker 1: get picked that up wrong?
Speaker 2: I think you can. You can definitely copy the horse
Speaker 2: people because horse people are really good about in biting
Speaker 2: versus invading. So I recognize, right, they don't mind to
Speaker 2: inbite the horse, but if the horse do it on
Speaker 2: his own, he ends up invading. Right, So can a
Speaker 2: dog go on the couch? Can a dog goes in
Speaker 2: the bed. Absolutely, just let the dog wait for it,
Speaker 2: wait in a con surrender state, and then you offer
Speaker 2: this luxury. Right, So that way, when the dog goes
Speaker 2: into the couch or into the bed, the dog is
Speaker 2: in a constarender state, not claiming, because what happens a
Speaker 2: lot of times when the dog does it on his own,
Speaker 2: he claims, right.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that that's the same German shepherd I'm
Speaker 1: telling again, I'm not going to say her name because
Speaker 1: she's like that, but she's very very greedy, like almost obsessive,
Speaker 1: obsessive eater, like eat everything all the time, always, kind
Speaker 1: of which I've never I mean, we've always had German Shepherds,
Speaker 1: I've never had one who was kind of like that,
Speaker 1: who was like almost like a like a compulsive eater
Speaker 1: sort of thing. It's weird.
Speaker 2: Well, when a dog doesn't have like a good outlet
Speaker 2: for work, right, there also can develop obsessions, right because
Speaker 2: they're confused, what do I do with this energy? Right,
Speaker 2: I'm a dog, I'm a German chapperd. So there is
Speaker 2: two things that this dog needs to fulfill, the dog
Speaker 2: in them and the German chapper in them. Remember, affection
Speaker 2: is energy given to the dog. So a lot of
Speaker 2: times people give affection to the dog while the dog
Speaker 2: has not worked yet. So I give affection when I empty,
Speaker 2: When I empty the tank of the body, and when
Speaker 2: I empty the tank of the mind, then I give
Speaker 2: affections because then I'm going to give affection to a
Speaker 2: com surrender dog. Right then the dog is going, oh,
Speaker 2: my human loves me when I'm totally come surrendered. But
Speaker 2: he truly loves me because he knows how to drain
Speaker 2: the tank of the bible and in the in the
Speaker 2: tank of the mind. Those are two different from affection,
Speaker 2: right right. It's it's like literally like like a navy seal. Right,
Speaker 2: it's body mind. Right, So the animals or dogs to
Speaker 2: me are more like navy seals.
Speaker 1: Certainly, certainly mine are. Right now, they're looking at me
Speaker 1: with a great dealers especially they've heard they've heard your
Speaker 1: voice before, you know, like, what's going on?
Speaker 2: What's going going on?
Speaker 1: Yeah? How does then? Because I'm interesting, we're talking about
Speaker 1: the technology and the halo color. How does that actually work? Bad?
Speaker 4: What does it do?
Speaker 2: Well? A lot of people, you know here in America,
Speaker 2: their biggest dream is the American dream, you know, is
Speaker 2: for me was to become the best doctor in the world.
Speaker 2: That was my dream, right and uh I, and to
Speaker 2: come to Americas where the value dog at the value
Speaker 2: dogs at this level, it was the only place, right
Speaker 2: And and so for for American people, walking a dog
Speaker 2: of leash or going to the beach without the leash
Speaker 2: is a big dream, right. But then the nose of
Speaker 2: the dog is going to kick in and it's gonna move.
Speaker 2: So if a dog doesn't have clear boundaries, it's going
Speaker 2: to keep going. He's going to come back. But people
Speaker 2: are gonna get scared, right, or the dog can get
Speaker 2: a little bit distracted, and I know how to come
Speaker 2: back right because he's not allowed to practice that Like
Speaker 2: dogs in Mexico. A dog in Mexico comes out of
Speaker 2: the house, he goes to the next town and comes back, right,
Speaker 2: comes back, So we don't have to worry about the
Speaker 2: halo color, right, right, So the dog maintains its instincts.
Speaker 2: So what I'm doing with the halo color is bringing
Speaker 2: back the instinct so your fear can go away, So
Speaker 2: your hesitation of not trusting your dog right can go away. Right,
Speaker 2: Because now with the halo, we're going to have this
Speaker 2: invisible boundary that you can't see. They can only feel it.
Speaker 2: So you're going to be able to put it through
Speaker 2: your phone. You know, I want my dog to be
Speaker 2: one hundred feet away from me when I'm at the beach,
Speaker 2: and you can change the distance, right, you can. You
Speaker 2: can just create whatever distance you want. And so once
Speaker 2: the dog hits or gets is about to get close
Speaker 2: to the to the one hundred feet, the dog receives
Speaker 2: the message. Obviously, you train the dog before you go
Speaker 2: into this real okay scenario, and so that way you
Speaker 2: can go and you know, take a nap in the beach,
Speaker 2: and the dog is still have fun because now it's
Speaker 2: inside this Hey.
Speaker 1: It so is it like a shot? Callar? Thing?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 1: Is it like a like a shot?
Speaker 2: So you understand, So everybody understands the sensation of the shock. Right,
Speaker 2: when do they do it or when do they happen?
Speaker 2: If the level of intensity is at ten, you need
Speaker 2: something like that. But if the level of intensity is
Speaker 2: zero to five, you can just do vibration or you
Speaker 2: can just do and that snaps the brain out of it.
Speaker 1: Right, So your parents did it with you.
Speaker 2: So if if from zero to five, but if you
Speaker 2: went to fight to ten instinctually. That is a physical contact.
Speaker 2: Snap you out of it, you said. So the shock
Speaker 2: is not to hurt you. The shock is to snap
Speaker 2: you out of it. And that's because your intensity is
Speaker 2: too high low, medium, high.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So I tell people listen, if your dog is zero
Speaker 2: to five and you've done the homework right, you're only
Speaker 2: going to use vibration and sound and eventually repetitions of that.
Speaker 2: You don't need it because the dog knows was expected
Speaker 2: at the beach. The dog knows is one hundred feet.
Speaker 2: The dog nos you know if you go to the
Speaker 2: to the dog part. When you are in the city,
Speaker 2: the dog knows you want them in the intimate space.
Speaker 2: So they have to know that when you're in the city,
Speaker 2: don't go too far. They were in the beach, they
Speaker 2: can go this far, says, So the dog learns how
Speaker 2: to be in the environment.
Speaker 1: Hello, this is Greig Ferguson and I want to let
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to come round your husband show you
Speaker 1: how to do it. If you can't do it, then
Speaker 1: you can't have it. But if you can figure it out,
Speaker 1: it's yours. How long does it take? Does it vary
Speaker 1: from breed to breed then I guess? Or just from
Speaker 1: dog to dog? How smartly are you? Know?
Speaker 2: What I noticed over the years is it takes twenty
Speaker 2: one days for you not to for you not to
Speaker 2: do it any other way, right, So it takes twenty
Speaker 2: one days to create a new have it right?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So in twenty one days, if you do it exactly
Speaker 2: what we tell you to do, the dog will develop
Speaker 2: the understanding. Right. So it's not that bad twenty one
Speaker 2: days for you to be right. So let's say every
Speaker 2: day five am you do the da dada. So it
Speaker 2: needs to be some kind of ritual, right, so the
Speaker 2: dog expect and know, so the human feels this way
Speaker 2: human is is wearing the shoes is because they pay
Speaker 2: attention to everything right, And that's how you develop a habit.
Speaker 2: You see it in the beginning the routine. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: need to create a routine. So the dog knows, you know,
Speaker 2: five am means this. The smell of this means this.
Speaker 2: The you know what, I see, what I hear. All
Speaker 2: of that is involved. The dog learned nose, ice ears.
Speaker 2: It's through the nose of a dog, right, the eyes
Speaker 2: and the last thing is the ears. So putting the
Speaker 2: leash on the dog. Putting the leash on the dog,
Speaker 2: I don't say a word, show the leash. The dog comes,
Speaker 2: I put the leash on, I wait for the dog
Speaker 2: to relax, and then I move. I do that every
Speaker 2: single day. They see the leash. It means calmness, we're
Speaker 2: going for a walk.
Speaker 1: Right. So that's interesting because I do like the officer.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say the word right now, go crazy.
Speaker 1: You see. Yeah, you gotta spell it. You got to
Speaker 1: spell the word right.
Speaker 2: So when I did my first consultation and in LA,
Speaker 2: people were telling me spell the world. Don't say ball,
Speaker 2: spell it. I was learning English. I don't know how
Speaker 2: to spell right, but they were telling me to spell it. So,
Speaker 2: you see, So when you started ritual of a walk,
Speaker 2: do you want to go over a walk? What you
Speaker 2: create is this you auphoric expectation with a dog can't
Speaker 2: contain themselves. And then you put lisha on and then
Speaker 2: then people say wait wait wait wait, stay, sit wait
Speaker 2: sit wait wait, we're going.
Speaker 1: We're going.
Speaker 2: Don't worry about it. See the humans start talking a lot,
Speaker 2: a lot. So the more you talk, the more you
Speaker 2: create this frantic energy. And as soon as you open
Speaker 2: the doorfoom right yeah, and then the other person, my
Speaker 2: dog comes down ten minutes later. I know, but it's
Speaker 2: going to be a bad habit. So if the person
Speaker 2: is not as strong at as you are, a dog
Speaker 2: cannot be walked by a toddler versus the way I
Speaker 2: create a ritual. A toddler can walk the pack of
Speaker 2: dogs that I have.
Speaker 1: That's very interesting to me. Yes, so speakful waiting if
Speaker 1: I'm going to get the halo caller, right, so, because
Speaker 1: I am. What I want to do is, like you,
Speaker 1: there's instructions with it and how to use it and
Speaker 1: how to do all that. Yes, okay, So the training
Speaker 1: part is is you get to read it, you get
Speaker 1: to see it. We got videos and everything.
Speaker 2: But it's very important that people remember three energies that
Speaker 2: not dog people use it, which is the silence, the calmness,
Speaker 2: and the confidence most.
Speaker 1: Dog people do love joy, He says.
Speaker 2: Those those are five energies, right, Silence, calmness, confidence, Those
Speaker 2: are the teaching energies. Love joy, those are the reward energies.
Speaker 1: Right. Want so be getting too much love joy? That's
Speaker 1: your problem. They get excited, of course they get excited, right.
Speaker 2: And then the dog by receiving this energy from the human,
Speaker 2: the dog sees the human as a soft source of energy,
Speaker 2: because love is a soft source of energy, right Versus
Speaker 2: calm confidence, it's a stronger source of energy. Calmness creates trust,
Speaker 2: confidence creates respect, calm confident that therefore you can.
Speaker 1: Give direction protection.
Speaker 2: Right. So what is what is why we all humans
Speaker 2: want from our pack leaders, from our presidents to be calm, confident,
Speaker 2: love joy, right, Because we want safet piece love, We
Speaker 2: want trust, respect, love, We want to be able to
Speaker 2: do exercise, discipline, affection activities.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 1: It makes it makes a great deal of sense when
Speaker 1: you put it that way. Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: how did you come to this? How did I mean?
Speaker 1: Do you have a dog right now? I have a
Speaker 1: pack of dogs? Yeah, you do, you have a.
Speaker 2: Lot of I'm a pack guy, I'm a packed garer,
Speaker 2: you know. What I mean. And Latinos we're like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's all about the pack. We can't be by ourselves.
Speaker 2: It's all about the pack.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Right now we got ten only because I travel a lot,
Speaker 2: right right, I travel a lot. But I started with
Speaker 2: sixty five. I started with sixty five, and I raised
Speaker 2: my two kids, Andre and Calvin among a pack of dogs.
Speaker 2: Right now they're helping me. When I's thirty one, it
Speaker 2: is twenty six. So they learned, you know, the energy,
Speaker 2: the philosophy, the actions.
Speaker 1: We have a ranch.
Speaker 2: We got a pitching you know, they got a pitchin
Speaker 2: in the pack. So right now we got ten because
Speaker 2: you know, I travel all over the world because I
Speaker 2: want to. I want to help the whole world. And fabulous,
Speaker 2: So tenn is okay?
Speaker 1: Do your dogs? Do you travel with the dogs? Can't
Speaker 1: travel with you all ten dogs? Surely?
Speaker 2: When when I go to England, it is hard because
Speaker 2: in Ireland, right if I got to Australia, it is
Speaker 2: hard to bring them there, but any other place, like
Speaker 2: I brought my pit bulls to Europe and we did
Speaker 2: a tour and and you know, to show you know,
Speaker 2: the people about Plus they were in love with Daddy
Speaker 2: and Junior when they were alive, and you know, the
Speaker 2: Europeans wanted to see them and so yeah, so it
Speaker 2: allowed me.
Speaker 1: It's a much maligned read the pet bull. Isn't that
Speaker 1: I have all the purples I've come across, everyone that
Speaker 1: I've met, I have, you know, I've heard the horror stories,
Speaker 1: but the peples may be very affectionate dog.
Speaker 2: It's not the breed, it's the human behind the dog.
Speaker 1: Really.
Speaker 2: Remember we we are the one who's creating the dovernment.
Speaker 2: We're creating you know, the the Boston Terriers, we're creating them.
Speaker 2: So we also created the pitbull. So it's our responsibility
Speaker 2: to understand what is it that we're bringing home? Right,
Speaker 2: because it's in every and every breed is a dog.
Speaker 2: So I don't I don't really focus on the breed.
Speaker 2: I focus on the dog, focusing the dog. Different breed,
Speaker 2: we are different rays, okay, but we're all humans, so
Speaker 2: we all need the same thing. Sure, the breed is
Speaker 2: more like the food, the music, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: the women we like. But you see that we're all humans.
Speaker 2: You me, as a man, we need the same thing,
Speaker 2: the same things.
Speaker 1: I get it. What about so so how did you
Speaker 1: come to That's what I was gonna You're like a
Speaker 1: country kid. Did you grow up and with a lot
Speaker 1: of dogs arounding a ranch and that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Most immigrants they come from Mexico. We come from the farm, right,
Speaker 2: so we know the land very well and we know
Speaker 2: the animals very well. So if you go to Kentucky,
Speaker 2: I guarantee you that all the guys there are Mexicans
Speaker 2: or they are Latinos, right, taking care of the horses,
Speaker 2: anything they had to do with the plants is we
Speaker 2: are We're doing it why because we come from the farm, right,
Speaker 2: So that's our school is mother nature, as school is
Speaker 2: the animals. And of course we're traditional, so we listen
Speaker 2: to our grandparents, right, and so we come with rule better.
Speaker 2: We can't well behave wanted to work, right, So I
Speaker 2: came with that already, right, But I also came with
Speaker 2: the dream of being the best in the world. And
Speaker 2: then when I saw I love this quote of America,
Speaker 2: that's not what the country can do for you? What
Speaker 2: can you do for the country? And I grabbed that said,
Speaker 2: I can teach the country how to connect communicat have
Speaker 2: the best relationship on earth with their dogs. And then
Speaker 2: I got the show and the dog whispered. That was
Speaker 2: my first show came to America to get a TV show.
Speaker 1: Huge, Yeah, yeah, I mean that's massive. But but let
Speaker 1: me ask you this. Do you ever meet because you know,
Speaker 1: we live in the times we live in, do you
Speaker 1: ever meet resistance to the words you do? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yes, you know why because I use the word and
Speaker 2: back in a long time ago, dominance, right, and so
Speaker 2: in the dog world, if you use that word is
Speaker 2: actually a negative. But I learned, you know, from watching
Speaker 2: the Lakers. The Lakers dominated the court. Yeah, so to
Speaker 2: me it is, oh, that's that's leadership, okay. And and
Speaker 2: so I start changing words from dominance to assertive to confidence.
Speaker 2: So right now, everybody's okay with the word confidence, right.
Speaker 2: Nobody even had a problem with the word calmness. So
Speaker 2: a lot of times is the words that I use
Speaker 2: a lot of times is the the contact that I
Speaker 2: do with a dog. But again, I'm working with dogs
Speaker 2: who are extremely aggressive, right, So without me, they get medicated,
Speaker 2: they get isolated or put down. Right, And so I
Speaker 2: come in and I put a dog in the pack,
Speaker 2: or I put a dog in the pool or or whatever.
Speaker 2: People don't think it's the right thing. By the time
Speaker 2: I finished with the dog, that dog is alive, that
Speaker 2: dog is safe, and that that family is the happiest
Speaker 2: family on earth. That's why, you know, twenty years on TV.
Speaker 2: So they can hate as much as they want, but
Speaker 2: the prom is in the pudding. As they said in America,
Speaker 2: it will can I ask you this, what about do
Speaker 2: you ever meet a dog you used to I can't
Speaker 2: reach this dog.
Speaker 1: I can't do it. You know.
Speaker 2: We just finished season five and I met a dog
Speaker 2: named Brunello. Okay, And this guy came from Italy and
Speaker 2: this lady wanted a dog with some kind of you know,
Speaker 2: handicap problems. And this guy was blind, deaf and had
Speaker 2: a neological problem. Ok yeah, and then it developed an
Speaker 2: obsession to grab things from the floor in a very
Speaker 2: aggressive way, to the point that one time he took
Speaker 2: the pants from the lady in the middle of the
Speaker 2: street and left the naked. So this guy is blind
Speaker 2: his death. The wires inside are not connecting. Yeah, that's neurological.
Speaker 2: That's why you know, having dog from Pappy Mills are
Speaker 2: not a good thing. Guys, But because you know they're
Speaker 2: not they're they're not breeding well behaved. You know, genetics, right, regardless,
Speaker 2: this is my work of art, right, because I was,
Speaker 2: I don't know how to influence it, right, I don't
Speaker 2: know how he came hear me, he can't see me.
Speaker 2: He was calmed down. His nose was incredible, but his
Speaker 2: nose was so obsessed to find objects. So he was
Speaker 2: he was six years old. Six years old, so for
Speaker 2: six years he's been repeating the same thing.
Speaker 1: Well, ninety days later we rehabilitate. Wow.
Speaker 2: Yes, is the toughest one. Yeah, is blind and death.
Speaker 2: I mean I have aggressive dogs, but they're not blind
Speaker 2: or death, right, you know. So that was that was
Speaker 2: it should be easier because he was blind and death,
Speaker 2: it should it be easier, right, But that was mind
Speaker 2: blowing to me. I never seen a case like that
Speaker 2: in my life ever ever.
Speaker 1: So aggressiveness, aggressiveness and dogs, it's okay. Maybe aggressiveness and
Speaker 1: dogs is I mean, it's very common. Is a manifestation
Speaker 1: of fears. The dog insecure is up what it is? Well,
Speaker 1: if it's a front of the pack, it's true aggression.
Speaker 1: If it's a front of the pack, it's true aggression. Right,
Speaker 1: like police dogs. So in order for a police officer.
Speaker 1: To have a police dog, they need a front of
Speaker 1: the pack. They can't have middle or back.
Speaker 2: Now, when a dog is middle back and is behaving aggressive,
Speaker 2: it's fear right, right, because he's not supposed to give
Speaker 2: direction protection middle and back dogs they're not supposed to
Speaker 2: move forward and bite, get it right, right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So so most dogs.
Speaker 2: Are fear aggressive because there's a lot more followers than
Speaker 2: leaders and every and every litter of in every litter
Speaker 2: is only one pick of the litter, so it's only one.
Speaker 2: So you can only get one pick of the litter
Speaker 2: per per per litter. The rest are going to be.
Speaker 1: Every in every letter, then there's always one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just go with the German shepherd people that are
Speaker 2: they're doing and dogs or they're doing police dogs. They
Speaker 2: get one dog per litter. The rest are pet quality
Speaker 2: or run off the litter. That's how they name it
Speaker 2: in the in the in the breeder world, pick up
Speaker 2: the litter.
Speaker 1: Come up here, Let me come up here. Let me
Speaker 1: show me you are leader dog? Are you leader dog?
Speaker 1: Are you look at this? This is not a leader dog.
Speaker 1: That's a the middle of the back. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: y a happy lucky one. Yeah, it's is yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the eyes, The eyes tells you you know who
Speaker 2: they were born as well? Right, Right, When a dog
Speaker 2: is too sensitive, that's a back of the pack. When
Speaker 2: a dog is like it has this happiness as the
Speaker 2: middle of the pack. When a dog has this strength,
Speaker 2: that's in front of the pack. You can see it
Speaker 2: through the eye contact.
Speaker 1: Can you see in every dog? You see you can
Speaker 1: tell right away what you're looking at.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, but that's what I'm assessing and evaluating. Right,
Speaker 2: how does a dog feel? And what position that dog
Speaker 2: was born to be?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So I can help them, so you right, because that's
Speaker 2: what they want. Do you know what position? What is
Speaker 2: I born to be?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: And do you know how I feel? Because most people
Speaker 2: they're already by the time they come to me, they're
Speaker 2: just devastated, right, and they already created a lot of
Speaker 2: stories in their head. So my job is to reality
Speaker 2: versus story. Right, Okay, this dog has anxiety, but it's
Speaker 2: the back of the pack. Or this dog has fear,
Speaker 2: but it's the middle of the pack.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Very few, very few, Every once in a while people
Speaker 2: bring it true front of the pack. And those are easier,
Speaker 2: by the way, because they oh my god, yes, they
Speaker 2: they it was a dog named Batman at Chihuahua, but
Speaker 2: it was a front of the pack, but they treated
Speaker 2: him like it was a middle of the pack. And
Speaker 2: this dog was just going after everybody.
Speaker 1: And so when I met I think it's been in
Speaker 1: front of the pack. They're always front of the fire.
Speaker 2: You know why, right, you know why because people keeps
Speaker 2: constantly keeping it, bringing it up here, picking them up,
Speaker 2: picking them up. Little dogs develop this Napoleon complex because
Speaker 2: the owner do not address the situation. The owner pick
Speaker 2: the situation. So the dog end up being bigger than
Speaker 2: anything in front of them, right, and then they get affection.
Speaker 2: And of course the dog is gonna they're gonna do that,
Speaker 2: of course, because they've been rewarded to do it. They've
Speaker 2: been reminded to do it. People with little dogs, they
Speaker 2: pick them up, they don't address it, and so.
Speaker 1: That's what So the dog thinks that if I behave
Speaker 1: a certain way, I'll get the love, and so I
Speaker 1: behave that way to get the love. I get it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean right, the dog is responding based on
Speaker 2: how the human responds. Right.
Speaker 1: It's very interesting. I'm just watching my dogs as I'm
Speaker 1: talking to you right now. And the way that they're playing,
Speaker 1: Like the jack Russell's lying down showing his belly, and
Speaker 1: the and the German shepherd is licking his beley. That's like,
Speaker 1: but is that dominance? Is that submiss what's going on now?
Speaker 2: No, they're playing, they're playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just that much.
Speaker 2: Listen, if you close your eyes, you can feel the
Speaker 2: energy and that gives you much accurate feeling because you're
Speaker 2: not supposed to assess and evaluate things with your eyes.
Speaker 1: You're supposed to feel it, right, You're supposed to be interested.
Speaker 2: Yes, so how would a cat be in that situation?
Speaker 2: The cow will feel that those dogs are playing, and
Speaker 2: that's what a cow will come. But if the cat
Speaker 2: that is a tension in the room, the cat will
Speaker 2: stay away all the cow will come in stop them.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, that's exactly what happens here. The cat is
Speaker 1: not around right now. But the cats in a bad mood,
Speaker 1: and that's a different.
Speaker 4: Do you ever try you ever try and train you
Speaker 4: do other animals too? You ever have two cats? I
Speaker 4: have two cats, I have a chinchilla, I have we
Speaker 4: have two birds. One the macau helps me a lot
Speaker 4: with the personal space, and then we have lamas and pacas.
Speaker 4: So I created a community the way I grew up
Speaker 4: with different animals, so people can see their dogs, can
Speaker 4: can you know, mingle with other species. So one day
Speaker 4: when you come to Lay, I want you to come to.
Speaker 2: See this forty three acres uh city that I created
Speaker 2: my own, my own universal studios. Yeah, and then one
Speaker 2: thing that we should do when you come is we
Speaker 2: bring UH really bad case so you can experience the
Speaker 2: transformation in the moment you see. So maybe I can
Speaker 2: bring my dogs, bring your dogs, of course, bring bring
Speaker 2: the dogs and I can help them introduce it. If
Speaker 2: you're never introduced to a lama or to chickens or
Speaker 2: to cat so whatever you want, right, so I can
Speaker 2: break it down for you. That's that's definitely a much
Speaker 2: better way for people to experience. When I talk about
Speaker 2: energy philosophy, actions, trush, respect, love, safe, peace.
Speaker 1: Love, it's very it's very interesting because to hear you
Speaker 1: talk about it, it makes so much sense, and yet
Speaker 1: it kind of is different. Come up here, come up here,
Speaker 1: come on, No, no like that, But it's very different
Speaker 1: to the way that I've been behaving with the dogs.
Speaker 1: I love my dogs, but I I kind of reward
Speaker 1: them for doing the wrong thing, and I think that's
Speaker 1: where I'm going wrong. I get right now, right, right,
Speaker 1: very interested.
Speaker 2: So if we become more simple, right, more and more natural,
Speaker 2: then we go after come, surrender, happy, go lucky. So
Speaker 2: that's what I give affection to. I don't have front
Speaker 2: of the pact. I don't need from the pack, right.
Speaker 2: I rescue middle and back of the pack dogs, right,
Speaker 2: because they're going to accept your dog quicker than the
Speaker 2: front of the pack, right, right, So I can have
Speaker 2: ten twenty thirty right, And so that way I carry
Speaker 2: the front of the pack, or my kids or anybody
Speaker 2: that works with me, they carry that position. So it's
Speaker 2: like you having a business and you leave the business
Speaker 2: and then somebody has to carry that position.
Speaker 1: R get it? So the same thing with everybody gets
Speaker 1: to be the CEO. Right, it's the front of the
Speaker 1: pipe dog and in the pack.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, right, God, and a family of
Speaker 2: humans and animals or dogs is all the humans become
Speaker 2: CEO in order for your children to do, you know,
Speaker 2: what they need to do when you're not there, which
Speaker 2: is great. There's a good responsibility, is a good activity.
Speaker 2: Eventually our kids can practice cam confidence or love, joy,
Speaker 2: or they can practice all of them at the same time. Calm, confident,
Speaker 2: love joy, because that's what I do. You know, when
Speaker 2: I'm helping people, I am calm, confident, love joy.
Speaker 1: Do you never It's funny how you you seem like
Speaker 1: a very confident man as well. You seem like you
Speaker 1: know what you're doing and you get it done. Did
Speaker 1: you ever experience doubt when you were starting out? Did
Speaker 1: you ever like I don't know if I'm going to
Speaker 1: be able to figure this out? Or you just always
Speaker 1: felt like you had an affinity with the animal and
Speaker 1: that that was you knew what you needed.
Speaker 2: To do when it came to my goal in life.
Speaker 2: I never had hesitation, right, It's like Cristiano Ronaldo and Messi.
Speaker 2: I'm guarantee you that those guys never hesitated for that.
Speaker 2: But I'm pretty sure that we had weaknesses in some
Speaker 2: other areas, right, Right, So like any other man, like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're good here, but we're not good here.
Speaker 1: So I had I have.
Speaker 2: I had a great relationship with animals all my life,
Speaker 2: or with dogs of my life, not necessarily with women, right,
Speaker 2: So that was my weakness. My weakness is not knowing
Speaker 2: how to choose the right female for me.
Speaker 1: Right, My guess is in fact, you don't want to
Speaker 1: go in front of the fat. Don't go front of
Speaker 1: the fact. I get it.
Speaker 2: My weaknesses. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think you learned how to deal with people
Speaker 1: more from dealing with dogs? Is it informed you in
Speaker 1: any way or it's like a completely different rule.
Speaker 2: Well, the human rationalized. So the human goes right into
Speaker 2: the story, right, and so when the story and emotions
Speaker 2: get together, this human takes a lot longer to move on, right.
Speaker 2: So but when you go back into your spirituality, you know,
Speaker 2: live live in the moment type of thing, and it's
Speaker 2: about life and death, and then you are more to
Speaker 2: the reality. Right. So a lot of times people don't
Speaker 2: want to live in the reality, so I have to
Speaker 2: help them come from their story to the reality with
Speaker 2: a dog. They don't want to live in the story.
Speaker 2: They want to live in the reality.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: They want to be happy, healthy, loving, smart, and the
Speaker 2: human is like, hey, you can be happy today. No, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: right now, I'm not ready. Some people postpone happiness, some
Speaker 2: people postpone hell for everybople, postpone love forever, right. Some
Speaker 2: people for postponed being smart. And smart doesn't mean like
Speaker 2: Elon must smart. Now I'm talking about just smart. Just
Speaker 2: make the right decisions, make good decisions, remember good things.
Speaker 2: But I tell my kids the mind is for three things,
Speaker 2: to learn, to achieve, and to teach. That's a good
Speaker 2: use of the mind. Otherwise, your spirit can tell you
Speaker 2: what to do, your instinct can tell you what to do,
Speaker 2: and your heart can tell you what to do. So
Speaker 2: trust your spirit, respect your instinct, love with the heart,
Speaker 2: create with the mind. Right, Because that's how I did
Speaker 2: what I became. I became the dog whisperer because I
Speaker 2: trust my spirit, respect my instinct, love with my heart,
Speaker 2: create with my mind.
Speaker 1: It's fair, it's it's a it's a much more kind
Speaker 1: of spiritual approach than I thought. Are you. Are you
Speaker 1: a religious man?
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I grew up Catholic, but I don't go
Speaker 2: to church. But I do believe in God, right, I
Speaker 2: do believe that God is the pact leader. He gives
Speaker 2: you direction protection as well. He gives you love and joy,
Speaker 2: but he first gives you direction protection, right right, right,
Speaker 2: So for me, God first gives you the masculine energy,
Speaker 2: then it gives you the feminine energy.
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, I get it. I get it. It's very
Speaker 1: it's a very fascinating approach to and clearly successful. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's just a coincidence, and you
Speaker 1: can't see right now, but both my dogs are lying
Speaker 1: on my feet like good dogs, and they're both bathing
Speaker 1: very well, which I don't understand because you're learning.
Speaker 2: So when we get into the sound of learning and
Speaker 2: we like it, and then this calmness comes in and
Speaker 2: then our mind goes into this, Yeah, that's making sense.
Speaker 2: That feels good, right, and so that creates a different
Speaker 2: vibration that creates you don't have to tell a dog
Speaker 2: laid down. You just have to feel calm, confident and
Speaker 2: the dog will do the rest.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Right. So that's why often I don't know, it
Speaker 1: is fascinating. It's interesting because I in order to get
Speaker 1: the dog to do what I want, I thought I
Speaker 1: had to get them excited, and it's kind of the opposite, right,
Speaker 1: It's like the you don't want to do that, tell
Speaker 1: the horse people to do that.
Speaker 2: Hey, the horse people, see the horse people make the
Speaker 2: horse gone before we're backwards, sideways and whatever they want,
Speaker 2: But they don't do it excited. They do it calmly, quietly,
Speaker 2: and a lot about the language, a lot of intention. Right,
Speaker 2: So the horse have to feel what you want, know
Speaker 2: what you want. And it's all about never losing the
Speaker 2: trust and respect from the horse. Right, And how do
Speaker 2: you achieve that silence, calmness, confidence? He says, So if
Speaker 2: it works for a horse, it works for a dog.
Speaker 2: It should be easier with a dog because a dog
Speaker 2: is being domesticated for such a long time that he
Speaker 2: wants to be with the human.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one does. Come on, come on, come on,
Speaker 1: come on over, come on over and say hi. We
Speaker 1: need we gotta go. But I just want you to
Speaker 1: say hi, Say hi. I want more time, love more time,
Speaker 1: want more time. There you go, baby, there you go? Hey?
Speaker 1: Is true?
Speaker 2: More than looking to come to the ranch? I'd love
Speaker 2: you want to go to the range? I'm inviting her?
Speaker 1: Is Is is it true that they get some kind
Speaker 1: of dopamine from the ear scratch thing? Is that a thing?
Speaker 2: Any massage? If you find that spot right, because not
Speaker 2: every dog like the ears, right, they all have the spot.
Speaker 2: Once you find the spot, then then you have the
Speaker 2: the other level, which is something they're among dogs. They
Speaker 2: don't they don't get to practice. That's that's why we
Speaker 2: have to take advantage. They can trigger this dopamine for
Speaker 2: a long period of time if we want to, we can.
Speaker 2: You know, we can create hypnosis in the dog if
Speaker 2: we know how to do it, and the dog would
Speaker 2: just stay hypnotize for a long period of time.
Speaker 1: That's the Jack Russell if if we do that under
Speaker 1: his chin and singing and sing him to a Lura lura,
Speaker 1: the Irish song zones right up. So that's right. It
Speaker 1: is that great shamous that.
Speaker 2: Is right.
Speaker 1: Listen. It's been so nice to talk to you. I
Speaker 1: feel like my dogs are bear I'm a bear man.
Speaker 1: Everything's working out great. Thank you. Oh okay, you're okay.
Speaker 1: The dog fell off the chair. Oh sweetheart, you're thank
Speaker 1: you so much for being on and when we're out
Speaker 1: and Ellie, I'd love to come and see that, at
Speaker 1: least I really would.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's once in a lifetime.
Speaker 1: You have to see it.
Speaker 2: The world have to experience it because you know it's
Speaker 2: it's a very magical place. I have help a lot
Speaker 2: of lives there and the energy, you can feel the energy.
Speaker 1: I would love to see that. Thank you, more power
Speaker 1: to you, my friend, Thank you very much. Thank you