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Speaker 1: On this episode of Rewives, we are visiting Orange County.

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Speaker 1: In this episode, Shannon throws a seventies themed party. It

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Speaker 1: was anything but groovy as she gets into a screaming

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Speaker 1: match with Kelly Dodd. We are bringing in Emmy nominated

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Speaker 1: Jillian Michaels to put us through an o C Housewives

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Speaker 1: boot camp. This is Real Housewives of Orange County Season eleven,

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Speaker 1: Episode five, Boogie Fights. Let's Go. It's so funny because,

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Speaker 1: first of all, when I started the show, and then

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Speaker 1: first it was Orange County was the first, like it

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Speaker 1: seems like it was, there was Desperate Housewives, a scripted show,

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Speaker 1: and then Orange County was the first, and it wasn't.

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Speaker 1: Ramona got into a lot of travel for saying that

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Speaker 1: New York kind of put the franchise on the map,

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Speaker 1: but she wasn't entirely incorrect. It wasn't that Orange County

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Speaker 1: wasn't successful because it was so most successful, but they

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Speaker 1: don't live in l A or New York City, and

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Speaker 1: it wasn't really a media darling until New York came

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Speaker 1: in because all because all the real social lites in

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Speaker 1: New York were so incensed about people pretending that they

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Speaker 1: were social Lites on the Real Housewives of New York

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Speaker 1: that it became this New York magazine article and kind

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Speaker 1: of like then it became again. It was the beginning

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Speaker 1: of this phenomenon. But when I was there, there was

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Speaker 1: there were five women on New York, There had been

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Speaker 1: five on Orange County, give or take, so that's ten,

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Speaker 1: then Jersey, let's say five, and Atlanta, so there were

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Speaker 1: like twenty women that you could kind of keep up with.

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Speaker 1: So basically now there are hundreds. And the reason I

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Speaker 1: bring that up is that you've heard of Nini, and

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Speaker 1: you've heard of certain people. I haven't seen a lot

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Speaker 1: of them either, so it's hard to keep up. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my god, I didn't realize they were hundreds. That's wild

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Speaker 1: hundreds of women, which makes it more competitive to come

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Speaker 1: in and do something or for each person to try

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Speaker 1: to be like I'm the new this, or I have

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Speaker 1: this product or and this is the same. Though. You know,

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Speaker 1: I've been doing a pressing and everyone's like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: don't you think everybody's a fitness influencer, And it's like

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Speaker 1: everybody's the house now, Like yeah, but you know, you've

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Speaker 1: got the standouts, You've got the people to breakthrough, and

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Speaker 1: the reason they break through is because they're relatable, right,

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Speaker 1: They're saying something real people aren't just entertained by them,

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Speaker 1: but they also identify with them or admire them in

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Speaker 1: one way or another. And anyway, I think, yes, that's

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Speaker 1: funny though, because I don't know, I've found that recently.

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Speaker 1: I've never believed that all press is good pressed. I've

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Speaker 1: never believed that, but more recently, and particularly with the Housewives,

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Speaker 1: people are sort of known for just being like villains

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Speaker 1: or just being a bitch or like you know, it's funny. People.

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Speaker 1: You could be love to love or love to hate,

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Speaker 1: but it can't be hate to hate. It could be

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Speaker 1: someone that you love to hate and they're entertaining for

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Speaker 1: that reason, or that you love to love them, but

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Speaker 1: hate to hate doesn't seem to work in this genre. No,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I hate to hate rough nobody

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Speaker 1: wants to feel that way. When you hate to hate someone,

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Speaker 1: you tend to tune it out. I think so. So.

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Speaker 1: I think that Orange County and what I like about it,

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Speaker 1: it's really messy, like watching and I had seen it

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Speaker 1: in the beginning, and I've seen certain episodes. You know,

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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills really likes to be polished and shiny and

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Speaker 1: tries to pretend they're intellectual in some sort of way,

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Speaker 1: or like you know above above a certain like physicality

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Speaker 1: that we've seen um Jersey in Atlanta. But Orange County

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Speaker 1: is authentically messy. Like I love when girls on TV

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Speaker 1: are just saying, we don't give a ship. We want

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Speaker 1: either the ratings or this is how messy we really

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Speaker 1: are and we're just being who people might even hate,

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Speaker 1: but this is who we are. That's so interesting you

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Speaker 1: say that because last night my wife watched the EPISO

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Speaker 1: showed with reading. She's like, Dad, this isn't real, a babe,

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Speaker 1: I don't actually know. She's like, is this real? And

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Speaker 1: I was like, I I think so, I'm I know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do her birthday and maybe they might stoke

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Speaker 1: the fire. But you know, you can't just call someone

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Speaker 1: someone dumb. And oh my god, it's by the way,

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Speaker 1: So it's boogie fights. Okay, So I'm gonna tell So

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you and your wife just so you know,

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Speaker 1: this is vintage this particular episode. This is a while back.

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Speaker 1: It's not the very beginning, but Tamar's with this guy Eddie.

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Speaker 1: she's got another boy friend. Now, this is back when

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Speaker 1: The Housewives was less produced, self produced, because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: there were only a handful of women who were on

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Speaker 1: these shows and they were just walking into something brand new.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't something where you would try to beat the show.

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Speaker 1: You would watch all the episodes and try to raise

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Speaker 1: getting your own head. Years later, you would see people

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Speaker 1: like that. You would see them creating more drama. This

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Speaker 1: is back when it was like authentically messy. You just

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Speaker 1: didn't give a ship. You were just living your own life.

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Speaker 1: There were cameras there and case Sara Sara. So it's

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Speaker 1: not fully fully vintage, but it's not like the new

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Speaker 1: That makes any sense, It does make perfect sense, absolutely yes.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, this is like a couple of chapters ago

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Speaker 1: She is the actual OG because she's the only she

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Speaker 1: was on the first season ever of any housewives, and

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Speaker 1: she's the only one still standing. But she's literally the

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Speaker 1: the original cast. Okay, did Megan ever get pregnant? By

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Speaker 1: the way, do you know Megan got pregnant there? Divorced? Also, Dick,

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Speaker 1: what a jerk? Okay, so let's start with, um, what

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Speaker 1: your thought was about Shannon's husband there at the costume store?

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Speaker 1: For me, I'm thinking, oh my gosh, when the kids

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Speaker 1: asked that question, You're asked, but the wet dream about?

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Speaker 1: What dream? Have you ever had a wet dream? To

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Speaker 1: your dad? I just think that that's a question to avoid.

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Speaker 1: I just think that's inappropriate. And I also don't they

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Speaker 1: That seemed odd to me. You know, it's it's funny

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Speaker 1: wondered if, like the producers didn't stoke that. I was like, yes,

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Speaker 1: you know what happened last night that was a little

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Speaker 1: saying that like whatever happened last night, they made happen.

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Speaker 1: It just means they, you know, start when you begin,

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Speaker 1: don't know why that would come up at a costume shore,

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Speaker 1: the same thing Um from from that episode, not the

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Speaker 1: And interesting how they really went there just discussing on camera.

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Speaker 1: like talking about their innermost insecurities, but themselves as a

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Speaker 1: interesting that she's he said that he couldn't be there

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Speaker 1: And you know that he's putting more time into his

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Speaker 1: of her, you know what I mean. You see a

423
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 1: couple like where one of them is a little like

424
00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 1: looks and I was like, oh, well, she doesn't like

425
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,120
Speaker 1: to do blah blah blah, and you're like, go take

426
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,960
Speaker 1: care of your own relationship, don't like bring your show. Gosh.

427
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I know what you're talking about. Yeah,

428
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I did not like it.

429
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,880
Speaker 1: It immediately made me dislike, like, yeah, I don't care

430
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: what you know sport or who I we're You're not

431
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,439
Speaker 1: a motive. I don't care if your mother didn't love

432
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,399
Speaker 1: you the right way, whatever it is. Do not disrespect

433
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 1: your wife by mocking her in front of you know,

434
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: however many millions of people. So all right, so now

435
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 1: we're in the party. Let's just get into the costumes first.

436
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: Because I I was, I lived at the roller rink,

437
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 1: I was on I was roller girl years before that

438
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: on this on the Housewives at Halloween. I just want

439
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: to know, was everybody dressed like the seventies or was

440
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 1: some of some of the sixties which they brought up

441
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: in that store. Kelly and Tamer went to the store.

442
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 1: Kelly kept saying, I think that's the sixties, and She's like, no,

443
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: it's She's like, I think that's the sixties, like Austin Powers,

444
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 1: mod Isn't that the sixties? Not seventies? They go to

445
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,239
Speaker 1: be honest, you you you looking way deeper into that

446
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: than I did. I was too busy, you know, being

447
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: kind of taken aback by all the things you just mentioned.

448
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: So I've I did not go there, but I will

449
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,440
Speaker 1: revisit it. I think you might be right. I don't.

450
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: I don't remember some of that Austin Powers by being

451
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: in the seventies genre if you think about it, So

452
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,640
Speaker 1: like Vicky looked like Austin Powers is the sixties, That's

453
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: what I thought. So it felt like it felt like

454
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,919
Speaker 1: a lot of people that were like mixed up in

455
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 1: what error they were. And I mean, I know their

456
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,880
Speaker 1: sixties blended into the seventies, but it felt like I'm

457
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,359
Speaker 1: being too literal. But anyway, the seventies is my time.

458
00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 1: Like I I think that Kelly did actually have the

459
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: seventies down and that big giant afro. It was like whatever.

460
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:35,280
Speaker 1: I know, they're having fun, but it just was it was.

461
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 1: It didn't feel and and what's her name? Did look

462
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: like Mrs Roper? That was that was. So they do shots.

463
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,240
Speaker 1: They walk into this party. Now, first of all, they

464
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: get into this party, they're wasted. And then the girl,

465
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 1: the blonde girl who's the friend of Shannon. There was

466
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: a pre existing argument going on between Shannon the birthday

467
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:01,920
Speaker 1: girl and Kelly, the one whose daughter was at the Manicurist. Okay,

468
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: so there's actually existing argument going on. They're walking into

469
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: this party with a conflict as usual, so they're trying

470
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: to be So that's why Shannon saying and one of

471
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 1: the interviews, I'm gonna be nice to her. I just

472
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: don't need to be best friends with her. Whatever she said,

473
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: I'm paraphrasing. They're gonna make it nice for this scene.

474
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: But it feels like a setup that those two girls,

475
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,440
Speaker 1: the blonde girl and the other girl, the ones with

476
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: the like deep cut seventies sequin jumpsuits. It did seem

477
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: like a setup. When she was like, oh, yeah, I

478
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,199
Speaker 1: know you. I met you. You weren't with him, you

479
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,680
Speaker 1: with another guy, like I would kill someone. Well, I

480
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: mean that that was I felt like a setup, no

481
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: question right. Shannon brought her to bring that up. He

482
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: was absolutely fucking with her. Um, but who's the naughtia girl?

483
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 1: Though the accents the two of them came together, feels

484
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: like Shannon's because I was like, who is that lady?

485
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: Because she hasn't been in any of the other side

486
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: and she was the shipster for sure. Well, what happens

487
00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: is a lot of people want to be on these shows,

488
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: and so this has happened to me before too. So

489
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: people who aren't actually on the show, but live in

490
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,199
Speaker 1: your community or that neighborhood and they know of the

491
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,960
Speaker 1: people on the show. They're the ones who usually wanted

492
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,399
Speaker 1: out people who are actually on the show because they

493
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 1: see the way that they're portraying their lives to the public.

494
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 1: But they live in that town and they're like, no,

495
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: I know she's sucking around in her husband. So they

496
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 1: tell somebody who's on the cast. Which is why it

497
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: seems like Shannon brought them in because it's like shanimis

498
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: met these women in their community. That's what I'm I mean,

499
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: I don't know this, that's what goes down, Like these

500
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: two women are in the community. Someone told the producers,

501
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,520
Speaker 1: because all that happens is cast and producers just gossip

502
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 1: all the time. But everything going on and then it

503
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 1: comes into the show. So these two women were invited.

504
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: They probably want to ship Stir a little because they

505
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: live there in Orange County and they're not on the show,

506
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: and maybe this is an entry into it, or maybe

507
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,200
Speaker 1: just light a little match and be the good called

508
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 1: the sack chatter. But those women were undeniably planted there

509
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: to say that thing to Kelly, because that's a guaranteed

510
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 1: argument in a big scene. She it was like, you know,

511
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 1: match Kerosene boom and and she was logged and loaded

512
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,199
Speaker 1: already drunk, and you could tell the minute and then

513
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: the girls like, she's talking about you. Tamer said that, Yeah,

514
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: but Kelly's also Kelly's the quitter of take debait. Kelly's

515
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 1: the queen of take debait because you just said nothing

516
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: and it won't air like you could just be chill like, oh,

517
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: yeah I met you, Yeah I wasn't or whatever. No,

518
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: but she got lit because she was wasted and you're

519
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:29,359
Speaker 1: right now, Tamarra who before. It's funny because in that

520
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 1: in that episode, Tamara talks about how how she and

521
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: Heather roller Girl didn't. I think it was those two

522
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: didn't speak for a while because she told something she

523
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: like tamar basically, I think it's like a tattle tale.

524
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: So it's it's her history. I think it's her history

525
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: to have told repeated something. And she said, and she

526
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: said in this episode, I repeated something I shouldn't have.

527
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,359
Speaker 1: And now she goes and repeat something she shouldn't She

528
00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: walks to the utter scene to tell Kelly and Vicky

529
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: that the girls sitting on the couch are talking about her.

530
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: Oh god yeah, Like I just I was like watching

531
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: it is like watching a car crash on Bold in

532
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: those moments, because you you know this one's going in

533
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: there to stir it up. And Kelly I just took that.

534
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,120
Speaker 1: It was crazy, like hooked instantly and I just I

535
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: was dying. And my wife it was so funny because

536
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,439
Speaker 1: she's as it was Bold and she was like on

537
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: her computer planning, you know, our trip for the summertime.

538
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 1: She's like in and out of it. But the time

539
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: the show when the one girl called the other girl dom,

540
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 1: she's still talking about it now like this morning. It's like, yeah,

541
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: she's invested. Yeah, it's like a soap oper. Can you

542
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: get invested? You don't even know any of these people,

543
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 1: and that she's invested. So Kelly's like, I'm just looking

544
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: for my purse and and the girl's like, I think

545
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 1: it's I love that Kelly is so crazy. You need

546
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: a crazy person like that. Because Kelly's like, I'm looking

547
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: at my person. The girl goes, what does it look like?

548
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: And she goes, it doesn't matter what it looks like

549
00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: like it doesn't it. It does matter. It does matter.

550
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: When it looks like we're it feels relevant. What does

551
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: it look like? So the girls she was ready to go.

552
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: She's like, it doesn't matter, just look about my part.

553
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: And then we find out that that girl did in

554
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: fact move her purse, which is like that girl gave

555
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 1: zero fox by the way, which that's I was like,

556
00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: who is this savage? Shove it. But it's a lesson

557
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 1: in life to not you can make yourself wrong because Kelly,

558
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: you know, she says Mrs Roper repeatedly, which is a

559
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 1: little nasty but fine, and it's the birthday girl. But

560
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: what she does do is take it to the mattresses

561
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: when she says to that girl, you look like every

562
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: other girl in Orange County. Oh god, yeah, the blonde

563
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:48,520
Speaker 1: and the big tints or something, and your husband cheated.

564
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: And but I remember her dumb magice, someone said to you,

565
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: you look like every girl in Orange County, Like there's

566
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: something create And Kelly has done this for years. Was

567
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: she just will she say anything? Like she doesn't care?

568
00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 1: And and it's funny because Ramona on my season not

569
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: that crazy by any stretch of the imagination and they're

570
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: actually friends. But she would say something to somebody and

571
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: then like getting so much trouble and but she could

572
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: still have fun the rest of the night and woke

573
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,120
Speaker 1: up the next day and probably justified it. If I

574
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 1: woke up the next day and knew that I had

575
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:23,080
Speaker 1: said that or something or or one tenth of what

576
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: she said, I would I would be obsessing. I'd be like,

577
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: I have to leave the show after that night. I

578
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: have to leave the show, like to change your name, yeah,

579
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,959
Speaker 1: change your yeah. Yeah. It's a complete It's like she'sa

580
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:39,640
Speaker 1: you vanished somewhere in the middle of nowhere, a girl

581
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: or nobody can find you and just what they do,

582
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: Like I would just be like, no, I and her

583
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: husband didn't even get involved. Like imagine the husband that

584
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: just lets the wife go crazy like that doesn't like

585
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: it would never happen. But Paul would have me by

586
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: a shock caller, Like he would be like, get the funk.

587
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean we would never be there. It's like saying,

588
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: but it's just some reason, if some reason, someone you

589
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: know I I if someone said something untoward to me

590
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: and I laid them out, but I kept when he

591
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: you know, my impression of you and correct me if

592
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm wrong is let you take no ship. But I

593
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: imagine the way you would lay them out is eloquence.

594
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: You know when I when I defend myself, I do

595
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: it very calmly, very strategically, and I shut it down.

596
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: So sometimes I don't always fight fire with fire. Sometimes

597
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 1: I fight fire with water, and that makes the other

598
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 1: person feel silly, and I can make my point and

599
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: handle it him like, you don't need to speak to

600
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: me this way. That behavior is uncalled for. So now

601
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: it's like you're taking the high ground, right. You let

602
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: them know that their behavior is bad and is looked

603
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 1: upon badly by not just you but everybody else, and

604
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: then you can make your case and then be done

605
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 1: with it. But why why are they engaging like this?

606
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: This is not because because there is. It's probably towards

607
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 1: the end of the season. They're exhausted. Just add cameras,

608
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: just add alcohol, Just add people you are not normally

609
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: friends within your life, and a layering of twenty different

610
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: dramas before this, and it pops off and it busts

611
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: open like a pinata. Okay, so who is right and

612
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: who is wrong? If anybody's even wrong, right? Who is right?

613
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: Nobody's right. They're all a mess here with this incident.

614
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Like they seem lovely and I'm I'm certainly no better

615
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: than anybody else on that show, but I think all

616
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: of it could have been handled better slash differently. So

617
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 1: Shannon is at fault for bringing these two like ship

618
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 1: stirs and Kelly takes debate and lights the place on fire. Yeah,

619
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: it's absolutely in my opinion, it's absolutely a two industry.

620
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: Is Tamra wrong one? Yeah, because she knew what she

621
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: was doing. Like, the real friend is the friend that's like, Okay,

622
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 1: this is going to be a mess and gets you

623
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: and leaves and we all have that front that's like, now, dude,

624
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: we're done here. Let's no, nope, we're done here. Cars here,

625
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: cars outside, get in the car, we're leaving now. You

626
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: know that's that's the real front, not the one that's

627
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 1: like and said you're ugly and blah blah blah yah. Right,

628
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: but that's not That's why reality TV is fucked up

629
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 1: in this genre, in this particular uh medium, because it's

630
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: designed that's a more successful. So someone's and someone'sho are

631
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: covering alcoholic they they blow that off and they break

632
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 1: and they get wasted and they act like this that's

633
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,200
Speaker 1: a better episode than them just staying the course, which

634
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: is why it's an upside down and it's a little

635
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: sucked up as a concept as a construct. I don't

636
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: disagree with you, which is why I generally don't partake

637
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: in it, right because of that, um you got to

638
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 1: think about it. That's why I've never actually watched it

639
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: because I I sometimes wonder if there is the vulnerable person,

640
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: right that isn't you or that isn't me, and that

641
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: doesn't have the ability to make the platform work for

642
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: us the best way we can. Like listen, I had

643
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: a lot of issues with losers on the show, off

644
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: the show, fighting with the producers, all of the things.

645
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: But I never let them destroy me, and they sure tried. Right,

646
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,840
Speaker 1: you never let them destroy you. I'm sure they tried.

647
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: You became bigger than that show. I became bigger than

648
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: the biggest loser we managed to, you know, still build

649
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 1: a career and hate the player, hate the game you

650
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: played the game. You play the game exactly. So if

651
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: if you know the game is taking advantage of people

652
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: they're not capable of swimming in those shark infested waters.

653
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: Then I kind of do wonder if it's it's bad

654
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: for me to watch it, then I'm like, am I

655
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: exploiting that person? And that's why I kind of never

656
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:50,399
Speaker 1: right taking a step further. Many of these women and

657
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 1: many of these shows used to be quote unquote somebody

658
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 1: that they themselves felt were more relevant. Married to someone wealthy,

659
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 1: married to mom with a name, had something going on.

660
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,839
Speaker 1: Their kids are grown up something different that they felt

661
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: that they had an identity, and now they are middle

662
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: aged to senior and they're getting an opportunity to be

663
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: to make a little money, be a little relevant, and

664
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: and touch a little fame. And a lot of them

665
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: don't have any other means to a source of income.

666
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 1: Imagine becoming famous at fifty years old and becoming known

667
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: and become it and can start uh some candle business

668
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: or whatever you want to do, uh, and people will

669
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: actually buy it. You get a little bit of relevance.

670
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, it's making a deal with the devil. You

671
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: there's something they're getting back to, or they wouldn't do it.

672
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: That's what's fascinating about the whole machine. You're right. Sometimes, Um,

673
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 1: you know I did a podcast for I believe somebody

674
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: on New Jersey. It's just the woman has like two

675
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: points something billion followers on Instagram. I'm like, I have

676
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: dedicated my life to being an expert at this right,

677
00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: and who is very sweets, just so sweet. But she

678
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: tells somebody to buy college in right, She's selling crazy

679
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: amounts of college. I'm like, hold on a minute here,

680
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: a right, That's what I'm saying. So, you know, there's that,

681
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 1: and then you know, Bravo gets to put that charity

682
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 1: on with Megan, the charity for colon cancer, to like,

683
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: you know, absolve a little bit of the guilt. There's

684
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 1: always like a little bit of a charity somewhere to like,

685
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: you know, absolve some of the guilt. Rinse it a

686
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 1: little bit. So anyway, it's a conversation. I was part

687
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 1: of it. I played the game. You know, no different thing.

688
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian played the Fame Game. She was Paris Hilton's

689
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: closet organizer and you know, plus one and she played

690
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,160
Speaker 1: the Fame Game and she won, so she had to pay.

691
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: You know, it is what it is. So you can't

692
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: hit the player. You gotta hate the game. So um

693
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: so these women have had a little moment in the light.

694
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,480
Speaker 1: And believe me, there's nothing more desper than a fired housewife.

695
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: Most of these women are there by choice, all of them.

696
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:01,919
Speaker 1: I know of two housewives one. I know of two

697
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: housewives that have left on their own besides myself that

698
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: just really left. They all say they've been they all

699
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: say they've left, but they've all been fired except for

700
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: two that I can remember. So everybody gets fired and

701
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 1: begs to be back, wants to be in any iteration whatsoever.

702
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: They want the light, they want the relevance. They're willing

703
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 1: to go have those fights and be exploited and be

704
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 1: all over in the media because they want the hit. Yeah,

705
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm very I'm in a very rare small group. And

706
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Andy will verify that. So now let's get to Vicky.

707
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: So there's a preamble, which is that Vicky is in

708
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: a relationship with this guy Brooks. He faked cancer. The

709
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: audience was on this cancer journey with them, thought it

710
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: was real. People suspected it. He faked cancer and it's

711
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: a big thing. And that other guy, David is basically like,

712
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: you guys are disgusting because that's the lowest of the

713
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: low thing that was happening there, because right, so, but

714
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: and is there you know, is there is it a

715
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: double standard about a man speaking to a woman like that?

716
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: I am old fashioned in that way. Here's what's interesting

717
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: is that it did bother me the way he got

718
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: in her face. But if there was a woman getting

719
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: in a man's face, it wouldn't have bothered you as much.

720
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: The man and the woman was it did exist beyond

721
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 1: I felt. Here's what bothered me is that his body

722
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: language was aggressive. If he stood back and was like, no,

723
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: that's low, that's dirty, that's low. That's dirty. To me,

724
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, she, you know you're absolutely allowed.

725
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: When he got up in her face, it felt like

726
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: physical intimidation. And that's when I was pretty uncomfortable about it.

727
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: I was like, that's not appropriate. Well what if we

728
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 1: take it to the next level. So, no matter what

729
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,760
Speaker 1: that you're saying, there's no excuse. She could have faked cancer.

730
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: But he it's a physical violation that I didn't like.

731
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 1: I get that he's like, that's the lowest of the low,

732
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 1: that's the lowest of the low. But he got in

733
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: her face. There's a physical in her face, and you know,

734
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: when people get there, you know, we're second from a

735
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: physical alter exactly needed a million times. It was personal space,

736
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: like a body language violation, and he was like, I'm

737
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: gonna intimidate you by being taller. I'm gonna intimidate you

738
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: by being a man, Like I'm going to use my

739
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: physicality to get up in your grill. She's the housewife.

740
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,920
Speaker 1: He's not the main he's not a main character. He's

741
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:29,239
Speaker 1: married to a person who was cast on a show.

742
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: So is he supposed to be inserting himself, Like there

743
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: are some people like Joe Gorga in New Jersey he

744
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: gets in the conflict himself with the women. So like

745
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: there's a lesbian couple in the Miami Show and it's

746
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,240
Speaker 1: Martina average Alova and the wife is the main housewife.

747
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 1: So if Martina got into someone else's face, would be like,

748
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 1: you're not even the housewild like, so there's two elements.

749
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: It's one that he's like being overbearing and it's a

750
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: physical body language violation. But to like, we're women on

751
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: a show together in conflict, Like there's a line when

752
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: the husband is coming in like on the front lines

753
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: of the conflict. That's what I see. Also do you

754
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: get that. I do understand that now. I didn't realize

755
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 1: that he wasn't like a main character because he had

756
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: enough camera time in that episode to kind of make

757
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: me feel like. The husbands are part of it too.

758
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 1: They are part of it, and in some shows more

759
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: than others. In New York, they're literally background for the

760
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: most part, and it varies with persons. Sometimes a person's

761
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: husband is so charismatic that that person and the housewife

762
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: make a whole character, like you need. Both Alex and

763
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: Simon were in New York, and he was a character.

764
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: Without him, I don't know if she would have made

765
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 1: it into the show. Melissa Gorga in Jersey is a

766
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: character in her own right, but her husband is a

767
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: larger than life character. So he adds to the sauce.

768
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: He's been in his own scenes. He's carried an entire episode,

769
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: which is why I put him on my Mount Rushmore.

770
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: But in this case, in this case, this guy is

771
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 1: on the front lines in the conflict with a housewife

772
00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: and it seemed aggressive. And I don't know if his

773
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: wife even knew that that was going down, but there

774
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: is something I'm sure she's meddled in his because remember

775
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 1: she came in and she that's David, right, that's the

776
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: guy with David. Yeah, okay, she's like, David, they're not

777
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: being nice to me, David, they're being mean to me.

778
00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: So she recruited him to get involved the other issue

779
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: that she was dealing with exactly. You know, I I

780
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,720
Speaker 1: would never fault them for getting involved or having an opinion.

781
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: But when he got up in her face, I thought

782
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: that was really appropriate, made me uncomfortable, and that's where

783
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: I got I gotta draw the line there. I do

784
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: get what you're saying. That was I'm not familiar enough

785
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: with the you know, workings of the show to know

786
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: where their place is and if he was outside of it.

787
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: But when he got physically in her grill, if any

788
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 1: man did that to me, I would, oh man, I

789
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 1: handle that well. And then want to handle that well.

790
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: And back to the Nadia and the blonde Newport girl. Uh,

791
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: do you feel that that's breaking girl code that she

792
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: like said to the breaks girl code? No, but specifically,

793
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: like I see you and you're out with somebody and

794
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: it's not your person, I'm going to bring that up

795
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 1: in like it ain't my business, Like you know, do

796
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: you bring it you know what I mean, like that

797
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: that in front of the guy, like that shots fired. Yeah,

798
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,200
Speaker 1: I mean the whole thing does kind of break the

799
00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: girl code. And that's on the scale of breaking the

800
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: girl code. I don't remember again, which is the more

801
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 1: aggressive def con here, But that's unfair. Um. She so, Now,

802
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: first of all, did Heather's husband push her? When you

803
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: saw the reenactment of the film, he did not push

804
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: her at all. She he was dancing and he had

805
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: his back to her and she put her hands out,

806
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: maybe to stop him from bumping into her. Yes, and

807
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: that knocked her over. But that couple, I was like,

808
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: these guys are done. I can't believe you told me

809
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: they're still together. I know. She's like, you pushed me,

810
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: And I was like, whoa, that's like you must feel

811
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: on some level like he's you're metaphorically pushing you because

812
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: he didn't tell oh not. Well, then they had that

813
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,520
Speaker 1: deep conversation and do you think I wonder I'd like

814
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: to find out. I'm gonna find out before this airs.

815
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 1: I'd like to find out if he changed. What do

816
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:24,839
Speaker 1: you think in this moment of this conversation, um of

817
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 1: him saying he's going to change, and her saying like

818
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 1: you have to say no, and like trying to give

819
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 1: him advice that it's not for them, it's for him.

820
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,719
Speaker 1: If he did change, then it's because the producers made

821
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: him change, because in real life they don't change. You

822
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 1: don't think, oh interesting, okay, in real life that they

823
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: don't change. So David says, this is the things you think.

824
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: It's just a physical violation. David says, shut your fucking mouth.

825
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: You're lying. Shut your fucking mouth, Like that's insane. But

826
00:43:56,920 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 1: they're all saying insane stuff. They're all saying stuff that

827
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: I find insane. So you know, if we're getting into

828
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: like men and women, I listen. I try to look

829
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: at it as like where are we actually equal? Right,

830
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: Intellectually we're equal, you know, financially we could beat all

831
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 1: these different ways we could be equal. Um, but you

832
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 1: women have children, man, don't that there's there's an inequality

833
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,040
Speaker 1: there that women can create life? Okay, Like men are

834
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:33,000
Speaker 1: physically bigger. They just are. They have more muscle, more bone,

835
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: they're taller, they are physically stronger. They have evolved to

836
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: be physically stronger. So if my business partner says the

837
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 1: F word to me or my brother and I get

838
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 1: nified and he's I shut your fucking mouth. Look, it

839
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 1: would kiss me off, don't get me wrong, and I

840
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 1: would be upset. But if anybody disrespected me, I would

841
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: be equally upset, girl or boy. I would not if

842
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 1: a woman said shut your fucking mouth to me, And

843
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: if my wife said that to me, she would never.

844
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: Of course, something's gonna be my wife. If I said

845
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: that to her, I wouldn't be her wife. Like if

846
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 1: anybody says, shut your fucking mouth, man or woman, I'm done.

847
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: So we're we're you know, I'm equal, I'm equal. I'm

848
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: equal if a woman, if I lived with the worst,

849
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: and you know, when I was much younger, if I

850
00:45:18,520 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: got in a fight with somebody and I twenties at

851
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: a bar drunk and someone got on my face and

852
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: it was a girl, I don't think I would. I'd

853
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: be like a bitch, get out of my face. Like

854
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: that's probably how I would if a man did it.

855
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Vicky saying to David, oh, you cheat

856
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,040
Speaker 1: on your wife. But then I think she says, like, no, wonder,

857
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,400
Speaker 1: you cheated on your wife either, meaning you're a scumbag

858
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,960
Speaker 1: to her, like she's giving a preamble. She's saying, like,

859
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: she's going out to your wife this way, you speak

860
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: to your wife this way, which probably he does. We

861
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: want to find out later. We probably find out he did. Um,

862
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: And what do you think about, like why don't you

863
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 1: have another drink? Why don't you have another drink? Like

864
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:00,839
Speaker 1: drink shaming like that say in too Kelly, Like she

865
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: seems provoked by that. She keeps saying Mrs Roper over

866
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 1: and over. But the line and they keep saying the

867
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: same thing is if it's gonna have a a different effect,

868
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: Mrs Roper a cake so properly, that's why right have

869
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: another drink? Have another's taunting, it's just calling her an

870
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: alcoholic exactly exactly. You know, she's basically saying, you're a drunk,

871
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: you're an alcoholic, like go go get ship based nothing

872
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: you say matters. And it's like that's the part where

873
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 1: you're just kind of like, you know, he breaks your

874
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: heart because I wondered if maybe I don't know enough

875
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: about her. I was like, maybe she just got crazy

876
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 1: and it was one night, or like is she an alcoholic?

877
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 1: Does she have a problem with this? And then in

878
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 1: her interview she goes I had a lot to drink,

879
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,920
Speaker 1: and I was like, yeah, girl, like more than homie.

880
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 1: Ye the fuck I wouldn't survive this night. And I'm

881
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 1: telling him pretty strong. I was like, I don't know,

882
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: somebody called somebody a had a file or not. Hear

883
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: that the word pedophiles in my notes, But somebody calls

884
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 1: somebody a pedophile, either Brooks or David or somebody called somebody. Yes,

885
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: she was saying that he cheated and he was a pedophile,

886
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: so I thought a young woman that he had an

887
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 1: affair with a much younger woman. Oh, pedophile is a

888
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: fucking serious word. To the two ones who are drinking tequila,

889
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: just add tequila is what the episode should have been called.

890
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 1: Just add to kill you because the two of them

891
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,839
Speaker 1: calling people fucking pedophiles and shut your funk. I mean,

892
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: it's crazy. That was I don't know. I keep watching

893
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: these and being like, is this real? I watched, I

894
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: was on it, but I was on it can't be real, baby,

895
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: this can't be real. It was crazy. Sh it happens

896
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: and people are stressed out in their lives. Yeah wow um.

897
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: And then at the end, what would possess two people

898
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: to wear a costume with big bushes and penises, Like

899
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: what is that? I mean people have bigger penises in

900
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: the seventies. I don't understand. I thought it was a

901
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 1: little boogie nights, Like what the I mean she mentioned

902
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: what's so funny? She mentioned streakers, and you know what,

903
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 1: I had completely written all about Right, you're right, but

904
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: that was seven you could, yeah, remember when someone ran across.

905
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: I mean, you and I were children like you on

906
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:20,840
Speaker 1: that decade. But I call bullshit on you, Like, I

907
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 1: don't even think you were you know, were you sucking

908
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: your I was born in seventy. I was okay, you

909
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 1: kind of you know, maybe, but I do remember, um,

910
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: like someone streaking the Academy Awards or something. Didn't they

911
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 1: or something? Oh, I don't know, but oh, because in

912
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: the movie Old School with Will Ferrell, that was he

913
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: was streaking. I didn't know it was like a seventies thing,

914
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,399
Speaker 1: but what the hell? That was awkward to me. That'd

915
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 1: be embarrassing. It was embarrassing. And by the way, it

916
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: did look like a little bit of a weird party.

917
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,399
Speaker 1: Like I will say, it looked like a sparse stra

918
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: I didn't understand me what I thought it was all

919
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: staged that's why I kind of I'm like, okay, they're like,

920
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: we gotta have a party, where are we gonna do it?

921
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: That's true, that happens. That's exactly what does happen now,

922
00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: that is what it is. Because the lights are really

923
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: bright and you can't play the music you want because

924
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 1: it won't clear, So it is awkward. It's like sometimes

925
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:16,680
Speaker 1: they're fun, but anybody who's there has to look at

926
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: like pockets of people with lights and cameramen like around me.

927
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: We're not gonna walk and be like hey Jane, because

928
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 1: the cameraman are going to disperse. So if you walk

929
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: into a conversation with a friend that invited you, there's

930
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: a cat like you're not gonna walk into that. So people,

931
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: it's very awkward. Housewives parties are very very awkward. They're

932
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: very bright, you cannot play normal music, and there are

933
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,759
Speaker 1: groups of people surrounded by lights and cameras in these

934
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,839
Speaker 1: little huddles, so that you have to be in these

935
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: other and that's where all the action is, and that's

936
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:48,440
Speaker 1: where the people that are at the party don't even

937
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: know what's actually happening at the party because they're not

938
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: in that huddle. That's not kind of thought. I thought

939
00:49:53,960 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: produced made it awkward. Yes, wow, alright, So who won

940
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: the night? Who lost the night? If you had to say,

941
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,080
Speaker 1: and who do you you have to identify with one

942
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: person and I know who that is? I think okay,

943
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay, who won the night? I think

944
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 1: the little the fitness lady. She she started the ship.

945
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: Now put her aside. Put her aside. Okay, Megan, I

946
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: think was the most just clean clean here, came out clean.

947
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: But but a housewife that just sits in the middle

948
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: and isn't that exciting and interesting doesn't make it because

949
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: they don't drive any story. That's all I'm saying. I

950
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,800
Speaker 1: don't even know if she's still on the show. I

951
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: don't think she is. But they don't make it. They

952
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: don't drive story. She's not you know that. There's a

953
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 1: woman who was on Jersey who I love, Jacqueline Lorita,

954
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: but she wasn't like ship stirring her action. So she

955
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: But you can have whoever you want to win that.

956
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you as a side. So she won

957
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 1: the night for you because she was like kind and cute.

958
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: She's very pretty too. I want to be superficial. I

959
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: thought she was very pretty, that she was sweet. She

960
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: wasn't she wasn't a car crash, you know, like he

961
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: wasn't a car crash with the husband. But you didn't

962
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: like her confronting him through the door. Not that I

963
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 1: didn't like her confronting him through the door. I would

964
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 1: have if she was my friend, I would have advised

965
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: her to approach him about it differently, and I would say, Mommy,

966
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 1: can't nag him, like, all you're gonna do is just

967
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 1: keep pushing him more and more, you know, away for work,

968
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: for this, for that hoolemicide privately and then you can

969
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: talk about it, maybe an interview. I don't know, I

970
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: know they don't allow that, but just be like, babe, listen,

971
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: you're gone Mother's Day, right, and I get it, and

972
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate. I'd be like, build, break, build, you know

973
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 1: how they appreciate that you provide for us. I appreciate

974
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: that you participate. And that could have been an on

975
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,640
Speaker 1: camera conversation, just not right in the door. Yeah, okay,

976
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: So that so that she would handle it differently instead

977
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: of being like, really, Mother's Day, Like she kind of

978
00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,640
Speaker 1: got it, bitch, Even though if someone did that to you,

979
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: not a bit bitchy. She comes off bitchy, even though

980
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 1: it's a little better than she played. You know, I

981
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,719
Speaker 1: have a chef, I don't cook. It's that whole like

982
00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: I make reservations. It's that persona of like rich housewife

983
00:52:12,080 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: that she's playing. And frankly, he's playing the part of

984
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: rich working house husband, like she's playing the role I'm

985
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,080
Speaker 1: home with the kids, I don't cook, I'm rich. We're

986
00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 1: in the big mansion. And he's playing the role of

987
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,719
Speaker 1: I go out and make the money to support this

988
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 1: lifestyle of her Champagne and Chanelle lifestyle, like it's a persona.

989
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's actually true. But you can't don't hit.

990
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: You know, you can't have it both ways. You can't

991
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: have that life. He's supporting that lifestyle. Housewives is not

992
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:40,480
Speaker 1: supporting that lifestyle. So he could just say, listen, you

993
00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: want the Chanelle, you want the shampers, this is what

994
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: I gotta do. He didn't say that. They could have

995
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,319
Speaker 1: said it. He could seem fed up, like you didn't

996
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: even want to engage. That's why I was like that

997
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to deal with her. That was the

998
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: impression I kind of god, that he doesn't want to

999
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 1: deal with her, whether he's leaving on Mother's Day and

1000
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: finding an excuse to not be able to say no

1001
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: on Mother's Day, yeah, or he's not engaging significantly in

1002
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: that conversation. I felt like he didn't want to deal

1003
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:12,160
Speaker 1: with her, And then I felt like a woman feels ignored.

1004
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: She she's not like the wrong way. Yes, that's going

1005
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,319
Speaker 1: to turn anyone off, even though I understood her. Yes,

1006
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 1: it's a very a very typical thing. I get what

1007
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: you're saying, and it's very textbook. I get it. You know,

1008
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: Like I said, if she was my homie, I would

1009
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,360
Speaker 1: have I would have guided that conversation very differently before

1010
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: it happened. But okay, right, all right, So she did

1011
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 1: not win. Then megan one that I who is the

1012
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,359
Speaker 1: worst defender of the entire episode. I'm so I can't

1013
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: wait for this one. This sucks because I actually like,

1014
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: I feel for her, but I think Kelly just unraveled. Yeah,

1015
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: same her too, And I liked her with her daughter.

1016
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 1: She unraveled and was trying. Yeah, and she took the bait.

1017
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: And here's my thing is, if if she was my

1018
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,879
Speaker 1: homie and you're like, girl, I don't know what's going

1019
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: on with the booze. But you gotta chill, like, you know,

1020
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: I've had friends that go hard like that and you're

1021
00:54:06,680 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 1: not twenty. It's not a good looks. It's sloppy and

1022
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: it's embarrassing. Put ship together, you know, you can have

1023
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:18,319
Speaker 1: that conversation with your friends, like what happened? Like I

1024
00:54:18,360 --> 00:54:21,560
Speaker 1: had a friend that it came, you know, came over

1025
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: to my house and she was parties going through you know,

1026
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 1: break up. This that has a teenage son and like

1027
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: drunk drunk and then one time so drunk and so

1028
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: stone in front of my kids, in front of her kids,

1029
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: And I was like, Mama, right now, like I've known

1030
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: you a long time. I get that you're going through ship,

1031
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 1: but this is not a good look. Yeah. Well, also,

1032
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: I want to say to you that this is not

1033
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: representative of an excellent Housewives episode. And I'll tell you

1034
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: why there wasn't a ton because I was going to

1035
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: say to you, what was your favorite part? There wasn't

1036
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: a ton of humor in a good Real Housewives of

1037
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: Atlanta episode. There's a ship show, but there's a lot

1038
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: of humor like funny, witty, you know, banter and humor

1039
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:13,359
Speaker 1: and New York, there's always some level of comedy, like

1040
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: comedy is the thread, and often not always in Jersey.

1041
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: This is more Jersey Ish. But this was just sort

1042
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 1: of like tragic. It was like a ship show mess.

1043
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: It wasn't really or funny. Yes, it was smart of funny.

1044
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: It didn't have all the elements. There are episodes that

1045
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,080
Speaker 1: I've seen that have all the episodes of Good Housewives show.

1046
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 1: It's like a roller coaster. You're laughing, you're horrified. It's

1047
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: a lot of drama, it's intelligent. So this was not

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Speaker 1: on a like rating score of drama. It was at

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00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,719
Speaker 1: a ten, but with a well rounded, intelligent, humorous episode,

1050
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: it was probably a five. I would say, gosh, yeah

1051
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: he did it funny at all? Yeah yeah, if I

1052
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 1: had to, If I hadn't pick a scene, it's the

1053
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Speaker 1: one with Kelly and her kids that I actually identified with,

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Speaker 1: So thing, who did you identify with her? Right until

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Speaker 1: the you know, when she unrattled because she's like, I'm

1056
00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: strict and the kids like, oh, bullshit, you're not a

1057
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: beaver fa you know, gosh you are. Oh it's my

1058
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: aware of the highway. It certainly didn't look like that

1059
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:18,319
Speaker 1: the kids like I'm getting jails or whatever, you know.

1060
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Speaker 1: I I thought that was so cute with the kid.

1061
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 1: Um and right, and I was like, God, this woman

1062
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: looks amazing. How good shook for her age, which I

1063
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:30,279
Speaker 1: know you're not supposed to say for her age, but

1064
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,800
Speaker 1: the reality is for her age, she looks great. And

1065
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, there are certain expectations and you get that

1066
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:39,920
Speaker 1: certain things are going to start happening to you, and

1067
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 1: I thought she's been saving that off. Well. I was like,

1068
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,760
Speaker 1: a body looks great, her skin looks great, she looks great.

1069
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Speaker 1: I was impressed that she takes care of herself that way,

1070
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Speaker 1: right up until she would have been the one that

1071
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: I thought because I thought, Wow, she takes care of herself.

1072
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Speaker 1: She's got this funny relationship with her kid. And then

1073
00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: when she just got schnuckered, I was like, that is

1074
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Speaker 1: not me. I do not get sloppy parties. And right,

1075
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: and also, um, she ends up getting let go and

1076
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: this show and so does Tamer the one who's in fitness,

1077
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: and they bring her back like now, I don't it

1078
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: hasn't aired yet, but the show starts to devolve, and

1079
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: I think there's a fine line between good drama and

1080
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 1: it gets to the love to hate phase, so I

1081
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: think they'll probably come out of that later. But seasons

1082
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: later this starts to devolve, and I'm sure the show

1083
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: you know goes through they all go through like a

1084
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: lull and then they have to repair and start over again.

1085
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: So anyway, this is a crazy way for me to

1086
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: meet you and trying to get to know you. But

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00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 1: I do feel like I know you a little better

1088
00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: based on your opinions, based on your opinion of parenting

1089
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: and friendship, and you know, the tween talks, and I

1090
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: hope I get to kind of know you, you know,

1091
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: in a different way, in a different absolutely mutual, and

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Speaker 1: I've been a huge fan and admirer of all you've accomplished.

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much, have a great day, you two. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for having me. Of course, thanks for watching